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mathiaz There is a new test cases for the -server install that has been added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ServerInstall00:31
mathiaza test case for tomcat.00:31
mathiazHow can I add it to the isotesting tracker ?00:31
slangasekstgraber: what happened to the CSS on the ISO tracker?  I can't reach the checkboxes anymore to disable images. :)01:17
stgraberoh ?01:19
stgraberseems to work here.01:19
stgraberwe had some broken CSS in squid's cache during last upgrade but that was one or two weeks ago and forcing firefox to reload the page (shift+reload) did the trick01:20
* slangasek gives it a try01:29
slangasekstgraber: nope, they're wayyy off to the side, doesn't work on a 1280x800 screen here...01:30
slangasekkubuntu desktop rebuilding, finally01:39
stgraberslangasek: can you make me a screenshot of that ? it's been a long time since I last touched the tracker CSS code, must be a side effect of a brainstorm update01:46
slangasekstgraber: http://people.ubuntu.com/~vorlon/wherez%20my%20checkboxiz%20yo.png01:48
* cody-somerville needs people to help test Xubuntu :)01:48
stgraberok, that's really weird, I'll ping nand when I see him. He also has 1280x800 and is the last one who changed the CSS ...01:49
stgraberdoes reducing the font size make the checkbox appear ? (or just zooming out)01:50
slangasekzooming out?01:50
slangasekas in ^- ?01:50
slangasekyes, it appears, but yuck that's tiny01:50
slangasekthe spacing between the columns seems to be something like 3x what's called for01:52
stgraberyeah, and that spacing is supposed to be dynamic ...01:53
slangasekstgraber: btw, it's probably ok to take the Kubuntu-KDE4 products off the tracker now, we shouldn't have any more builds of those02:03
stgraberok, I'll do that in the next update.02:17
stgraberwe probably also have some testcases to update/add/remove02:17
slangasekah, if we're queuing wishlist requests, then having mythbuntu alternate on there would be nice too :)02:19
stgraberoh, they are now built the same way all the others are ?02:21
stgraberIIRC it was the reason they didn't want to be included before02:22
slangasekmythbuntu alternate is, yes02:25
slangasekkubuntu desktop posted at last, with the should-be-fixed ubiquity02:53
* Hobbsee pokes people who are awake about ISO testing!03:03
_Zeus_should I install to test the ISOs?  or should i just boot it and stop right before install03:17
Hobbsee_Zeus_: installing it is usually the idea, to check that works.03:17
_Zeus_ah03:18
_Zeus_I'm testing an install of i386 Desktop w/ manual partitioning03:25
Hobbseecool :)03:25
_Zeus_am i supposed to test all the types of installs?03:26
_Zeus_or is it optional03:26
nellerygo Hobbsee!! way to send out a similar message to four mailing lists!03:26
Hobbsee_Zeus_: the more the better, but either way03:27
Hobbseenellery: *grin*.  2 got moderated, though.03:27
* Hobbsee figured people probably weren't subscribed multiple times03:27
_Zeus_slow downloads03:28
nelleryheh, you sent it to u-d-d and u-d-a03:28
_Zeus_i had no idea you could get them earlier like this :D03:29
Hobbsee_Zeus_: you can :)03:29
Hobbsee_Zeus_: but they might kill your kittens.03:29
_Zeus_i will from now on03:29
Hobbsee_Zeus_: \o/03:29
_Zeus_eh, i don't really worry, i reinstall all the time cause i keep /home in a diff partition03:29
Hobbseesame here.03:30
Hobbseei just have a download limit03:30
_Zeus_oh :P03:30
Hobbseeand i can't find a recent unmetered iso to rsync from.03:30
_Zeus_1MB/s  now :D03:30
_Zeus_Hobbsee: wait, what does that mean?03:31
Hobbsee_Zeus_: my isp has an unmetered site, which often mirrors the iso's - but they haven't done kubuntu ones, which is what i'd like.03:31
_Zeus_ohhh, i get it03:31
_Zeus_i just use vanilla ubuntu03:32
_Zeus_not too crazy for KDE03:33
_Zeus_man, my download speeds are all over the place this is annoying03:33
_Zeus_will i have to download another cd image when it comes out?03:42
_Zeus_or can i update it03:42
Hobbseeyou can update it - there's a tool called rsync.03:44
Hobbseeif you click the little green down arrow + cd icon, it gives you a command to use so you can rsync it.03:44
HobbseeYou can read more about rsync on the wiki : community/RsyncCdImage03:45
Hobbseewhich is a real url, on the page03:45
_Zeus_ok03:45
_Zeus_so when the real version of a6 comes out, i can use rsync?03:46
Hobbseeyes03:46
Hobbseealthough, if there are no release critical bugs on it, this will *be* the real version of alpha 6.03:46
Hobbseeit just gets copied over to the release directory03:46
_Zeus_great03:47
_Zeus_do you know how to find that out?03:47
Hobbseeas in, how to check if it is the same?03:47
_Zeus_yes03:47
_Zeus_sure03:47
Hobbseethere are md5sums on each of the pages - compare them.03:47
_Zeus_great03:47
Hobbseeif for some reason we have to respin, the testing page will show that as well, and null all the previous results, iirc.03:48
Hobbseeor at least, reset the testing counts03:48
_Zeus_brb if it works03:56
nullack Im going offline to do the ISO tests, I'll come back with any reports on showstoppers04:05
slangasekso far, we've had zero people testing wubi - is anyone in a position to test this?05:12
sbeattieslangasek: I'll try poking at wubi. Sigh.06:33
slangaseksbeattie: enjoy :-)06:36
aramorning everybody06:49
sbeattiemorning ara06:59
aramorning sbeattie :-)06:59
arasbeattie: wow it might be late for you!06:59
sbeattie11pm. that's not actually out of the ordinary.07:00
arastgraber: ping07:23
aradoes any one have the link to post a new story to the QA blog?07:24
araI answer myself: http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/add/story07:41
davmor2Morning Everybody08:19
Arbymorning08:19
davmor2slangasek: any other re-spins bar Kubuntu?08:19
aramorning davmor208:21
Arbydavmor2: ubiquity worked for me this morning on the kubuntu desktop re-spin08:21
Arbywould be nice to confirm :)08:22
davmor2Arby: \o/08:22
ArbyI've let jr know already08:22
davmor2cool08:22
davmor2don't call him jr though might get shot ;)08:23
sbeattiedavmor2: the ubufox thing appears to be fixed with a post-install update, but now I'm seeing 2 homepage tabs + the eula the first time firefox is started.08:23
Arbytrying to find something that doesn't highlight him so he doesn't get excessively nagged :)08:23
davmor2\o/ the next respin should burn the fix too08:23
slangasekdavmor2: nope, everything else should be golden, until someone reports that it isn't08:25
davmor2Today, I will mostly be hitting 64bit and wubi and M-A on 32bit08:25
davmor2slangasek: cool :)08:25
slangasekcody-somerville: none of your xubuntu testers have reported in yet?08:38
* slangasek queues xubuntu desktop amd64 for overnight download08:57
davmor2ara: your back :)  Are we posting about Testing Jam yet and are we being specific on just live cd's?09:50
aradavmor2: yes, i was installing alpha 6 in my personal laptop :)09:52
aradavmor2: yes, please, do. about the live cds only thing, I think we agreed on that for the first testing jam, isn't?09:53
davmor2cool np's post shortly09:53
davmor2ara: posted on planet shortly10:14
aradavmor2: cool, thanks10:15
davmor2ara: should be on planet now :)10:21
=== Hobbsee` is now known as Hobbsee
davmor2anyone testing a live cd at all?11:47
aradavmor2: I did earlier today11:54
aradavmor2: ubuntu desktop i38611:55
aradavmor2: it went well in one of my machines11:55
aradavmor2: but it is failing in another one. i will investigate further11:56
davmor2did you get https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/27169311:57
ubot5Launchpad bug 271693 in ubiquity "Intrepid: ubiquity throws up an error message box part way throw the install" [Undecided,New]11:57
davmor2ara: ^11:59
aradavmor2: yes12:00
davmor2okay cool ta12:00
aradavmor2: ok12:00
davmor2heno: My blog is aggregated on 3 or 4 planets now too :)12:44
henoheh12:45
* heno tests Ubuntu i386 DVD12:45
stgraberara: hehe, looks like you found the link you were looking for :) For your information I'm now in Canada so only appear around 14:00-15:00 CEST14:03
arastgraber: :D14:03
davmor2stgraber: how's things dude?14:19
=== cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville
* heno tests kubuntu i386 DVD14:25
sbeattiedavmor2: I tested the live i386 cd and got the popup, documenting it in the marked as duplicate bug 27164115:26
sbeattieHrm, ubot5 is not triggering on bug numbers anymore?15:28
davmor2sbeattie: only does it on full links which kinda defeats the object me thinks15:51
bdmurrayIs it not sudo oem-config-prepare any more?15:57
davmor2bdmurray: no it's clicking on the button ;)15:59
bdmurrayI've no button though!16:00
davmor2bdmurray: on what desktop?16:01
bdmurrayubuntu i38616:02
davmor2Have you done the reboot after initial install it should be there on the desktop was for me on 64bit16:03
davmor2bdmurray: ^16:03
bdmurrayyeah, I'm logged in as the OEM user so must have rebooted16:04
davmor2hmmmm stranger and stranger :-/16:05
davmor2ah that could be why I did Kubuntu not Ubuntu16:06
davmor2losing track of what I've tested can't be a good sign16:06
davmor2bdmurray: have a look in sys -> admin/prefs and see if there is a menu entry for it16:09
bdmurraydavmor2: nope, I'm going to give it another shot16:12
davmor2i'll try 64bit in a second16:12
* cody-somerville really needs some help with testing Xubuntu images :)16:12
davmor2cody-somerville: I'm on that next16:13
davmor2teach you to have the quickest system :P16:14
sbeattiehrm, wondering why wubi boots with en_GB by default...16:15
bdmurrayisn't based off your windows setting?16:16
sbeattiedavmor2: I'll take xubuntu i386 manual partition...16:16
sbeattiebdmurray: I'll verify, but I'd be extremely surprised if my win2k vm was set to GB.16:17
davmor2sbeattie: it takes the info from your windows setup16:17
davmor2unless agostino has made a slight bobo16:18
davmor2mine is set to uk time anyway16:18
davmor2bliss on ubuntu it is just WRONG!!!!!!16:19
bdmurraywhat's this? http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/16:22
davmor2someone after our job ;)16:23
persiaLooks to me like an independent ad-supported hardware testing/reporting forum.16:23
persiaLikely not as well targeted as people here, but see http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/other for distro "support"16:24
* davmor2 takes xubuntu 64bit and ubuntu oem 64 bit16:32
davmor2cody-somerville: what's the bug number for the ubuntu usplash in xubuntu I can't find it :(16:36
cody-somervilleNot sure16:37
bdmurraydavmor2: did you choose the live desktop or the quick installer?16:40
davmor2live desktop16:41
bdmurraymaybe, that's it I choose the minimal installer16:41
davmor2bdmurray: It should really make any difference I don't think I'll soon tell you anyway16:42
leandrooThe card reader of my notebook doesn't work in 8.04, but works in 8.10 alpha5 (tested in livecd), there's a way to work in 8.04?16:42
davmor2leandroo: yes create a kernel module for it and install16:43
bdmurrayor running the 2.6.27 kernel with hardy16:44
persialeandroo: Or, we're close enough to 8.10, that you might be able to just upgrade.  While there are surely a number of bugs remaining, your help testing would help ensure a better release.16:45
davmor2bdmurray: I got it here16:46
bdmurraydavmor2: you have the icon?16:47
davmor2yeap16:47
leandroothanks davmor2 persia16:48
leandrooand bdmurray =]16:48
* davmor2 moves onto xubuntu 64bit alt and live17:06
leandroodavmor2: 8.10 alpha 5?17:09
davmor28.10 alpha 6 testing17:09
leandroodavmor2: nice, i teste alpha 5 and get bug in flash 10 with firefox =/17:10
leandroo*tested17:10
_Zeus_I found a bug in the live cd install; should i report it on launchpad then include it in my test results?18:14
davmor2Yes18:15
davmor2just add the bug number18:15
_Zeus_27181718:15
davmor2_Zeus_: what is the bug18:16
_Zeus_bug 27181718:16
_Zeus_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/27181718:16
ubot5Launchpad bug 271817 in ubuntu "An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed" [Undecided,New]18:16
_Zeus_i don't know where to get more info about it18:16
davmor2already known18:16
_Zeus_i didn't see any bug report about it18:16
Aleksey_Sit is dublicate18:16
_Zeus_i searched for it, no matches18:17
davmor2https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/27169318:17
ubot5Launchpad bug 271693 in ubiquity "Intrepid: ubiquity throws up an error message box part way throw the install" [Undecided,Fix released]18:17
_Zeus_oh, now i see it.  i wonder why the bug duplicate thing didn't list it18:18
_Zeus_marked18:18
davmor2_Zeus_: I think you have to input the exact phrase the other person used18:20
_Zeus_huh?18:20
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persiaDoesn't have to be the exact phrase, but something close.  It might be good to change that bug title to include the error message.18:22
davmor2noted and changed18:27
slangasekwho all here is doing kubuntu desktop testing?18:40
slangasek(also, ubuntu desktop testing)18:41
davmor2me why what do you want?18:42
davmor2slangasek: ^18:44
slangasekdavmor2: well, I'm considering another testing cycle for the desktop images due to that ubiquity bug, and am trying to evaluate whether we can get the testing done in a reasonable amount of time18:44
davmor2don't forget xubuntu too then18:45
slangasekI was going to pass on rerolling xubuntu, which doesn't have an OEM mode, and document that as errata18:45
slangasekdavmor2: btw, I wanted to suggest that maybe it's not necessary to re-enter the bug numbers for each image where the bug manifests... I seem to be spending a lot of time mousing over bug icons that are all the same bug :)18:46
sbeattieslangasek: I think re-rolling the desktop images would be a good idea; that ubiquity bug is sure to generate a lot of dupe bugs if it gets released.18:46
davmor2slangasek: is this for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/27169318:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 271693 in ubiquity "Intrepid: ubiquity throws up an error message An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from CD failed" [Undecided,Fix released]18:46
slangasekdavmor2: yes18:46
slangaseksbeattie: exactly18:46
davmor2slangasek: it affects xubuntu too then18:47
slangasekyes, it does18:47
slangasekI didn't say it didn't affect xubuntu, I just said I wasn't planning on respinning xubuntu18:47
slangasekbecause xubuntu has a hard enough time getting all its tests in18:47
davmor2fair enough :)18:47
davmor2slangasek: most of them are done :)18:48
slangasekah; there were zero results for xubuntu alternate last time I loaded the page18:49
davmor22 on 64bit and I was going onto 32bit as soon as I'd finished the others :)18:49
sbeattieslangasek: I've got a manual partitioning xubuntu desktop i386 successful testrun that I haven't reported yet, thanks to wubi and edubuntu18:49
slangasekthanks to wubi and edubuntu you have it, or thanks to wubi and edubuntu you haven't reported it? :)18:50
sbeattiethanks to wubi and edubuntu issues, I've been too busy to report.18:51
sbeattieerr, report it.18:51
sbeattienot that I've reported the edubuntu and wubi issues either. :-)18:51
davmor2sbeattie: what wubi issue?18:52
davmor2slangasek: If you're going to respin sooner than latter please it's already 19:00 here18:53
slangasekthey're already rebuilding18:53
sbeattiedavmor2: two things: umenu.exe reports invalid cd when I try to run (in win2k) and it sets itself up with LANG=en_GB.UTF8 despite my win2k environment being en_US.18:54
davmor2sbeattie: known evand is working on it18:54
davmor2umenu.exe sorry18:54
sbeattiedavmor2: oh good.18:54
slangasekdavmor2: ubuntu daily-live 20080918 is already published, if you want to get started18:54
davmor2syncing now18:55
slangasekdavmor2: how much time do you have left for us tonight, and which images are you actively working on?18:55
davmor2I got till midnight I guess but as I was up till 23:00 yesterday do it I'd like to go to sleep at some point :)18:56
slangasekwell, do you think you're going to be able to finish xubuntu alternate, and also get through ubuntu+kubuntu desktop amd64+i386, or do I need to drum up more testers?18:57
slangaseksbeattie: btw, does the 'edubuntu' comment mean you're handling edubuntu i386?18:57
sbeattieslangasek: yes18:58
slangaseksbeattie: ok, great18:58
davmor2slangasek: Xubuntu is np's most of the issues are already reported.  I will be able to plough through live installer tests np's19:00
davmor2the only limiter will be if I get slow band rather than broadband19:00
slangasekETA 30min on updated kubuntu desktop images19:01
davmor2slangasek: cool bring it on dude :)19:01
* davmor2 falls asleep in his chair and operates the keyboard by dreams19:02
* slangasek suddenly questions the reliability of the test results on the tracker19:03
sbeattieslangasek: only now you question it? :-)19:10
davmor2:P19:12
slangasek;-)19:12
slangasekkubuntu desktop 20080918 published19:21
davmor2yay19:23
davmor2burns ubuntu 64bit live19:23
davmor2slangasek: all bar xubuntu alt 32 bit are now pretty much complete19:52
davmor2starting on the lives now and I'll drop back to the other xubuntu if there is time :)19:52
n0bodyhello, just wanted to ask when alpha6 comes out. :)19:55
davmor2n0body: never ;) we decide to pack up shop and go to bed :)19:56
n0body:D i see19:56
davmor2firefox works correctly now \o/ one bug down :)19:56
n0bodythats good19:57
sbeattiedavmor2: does it still start 3 tabs?20:00
davmor2yes but 2 of them aren't blank anymore :)20:00
slangasekhmm, I had said 20080918 earlier for kubuntu desktop, and it's really 20080918.1 now20:12
* davmor2 now has a strong coffee20:22
* n0body goes to bed now20:23
n0bodyany chance that alpha 6 comes out tomorrow?20:23
davmor2maybe but lat on into slangasek time zone I should think20:24
slangasekit's due out today, not tomorrow.20:24
davmor2:( feels sad20:24
n0bodygreat guys. thank you :)20:25
davmor2pleads with his machines to work faster20:25
slangasekdavmor2: what's at the bottom of your queue right now?  I'll chip from the other end20:37
davmor2Kubuntu lives and xubuntu alt20:37
davmor2nearly finished test 3 for ubuntu20:38
slangasekconveniently, xubuntu alt i386 is the one I've already snarfed20:41
davmor2slangasek: I've just put in bug 271512 once on whole disk20:42
slangaseksounds good, thanks20:43
Yoghurt^Goodevening20:43
Yoghurt^davmor2 > are you Danish?20:43
davmor2English20:44
Yoghurt^Ooh...20:44
Yoghurt^Because... in Danish DavMor means HeyMom20:44
Yoghurt^:D20:44
davmor2where as in england it's the first 3 letters of my first and last name Dave Morley :)20:45
Yoghurt^Sorry for off-topic... Does anyone knows when Alpha 6 will get released?20:45
Yoghurt^Oooh :)20:45
davmor2when it's finished :)20:45
Yoghurt^Okay then... i thought that the ubuntu devel. team used to stick to the schedule... :)20:46
davmor2Should be today :)20:47
Yoghurt^Exactly :)20:47
slangasekit's on schedule for a release on 20080918, in the release manager's timezone20:47
Yoghurt^and where is the release manager located? :P20:47
davmor2that's 3 days off he's on his way to mars :D20:48
slangasekWest Coast US20:48
davmor2god I forgot how slow my old box was :(20:49
Yoghurt^Oh! it's only 11:48 am on the West Coast :D20:49
Yoghurt^haha...20:49
Yoghurt^It's 09:49 pm in Denmark! But might be the answer :D20:49
davmor2Yoghurt^: It's always from WC timezone20:50
Yoghurt^Okay :)20:50
davmor2we release early sometimes if everything is tested to death20:51
slangasekYoghurt^: 12:51pm, actually. :)20:51
slangasekdavmor2: the release manager may be a space cadet, but he doesn't resort to inventing his own timezones20:51
Yoghurt^what? where? :P20:51
slangasekYoghurt^: the current time in US/Pacific is 12:52, not 11:5220:52
davmor2Yoghurt^: in slangasek The RM time zone20:52
Yoghurt^aah okay :P20:52
slangasekit's summer, UTC-7 instead of UTC-8. :)20:52
davmor2slangasek: thanks to sbeattie that's ubuntu i386 done bar wubi and m-a21:12
davmor2so I'm going to start on kubuntu i368 now on that machine21:13
slangasekhmm, you know that 100% test case x image coverage isn't required for alphas ?21:13
davmor2slangasek: I take pride in my role as a tester I like to get as close to complete as possible :)21:15
davmor2slangasek: fingers crossed by 23:00 my time I should be pretty much through them all21:18
starkmjolkeavning22:28
davmor2lo22:29
starkmjolkcame in here for no paticular reason, testing alpha 5 on a desktop since a week and most things are going smoothly :)22:31
starkmjolkepiphany-webkit was a nice addition to see already even though it seem to have some way to go before being a full web browser22:33
davmor2yes it's a nice speedy browser to be fair as you say though lot of work yet22:35
starkmjolkI couldn't find extensions at all? do you know if they are currently disabled?22:35
stgraberare we still testing ?22:36
davmor2stgraber: Yes22:44
stgraberdavmor2: any suggestion on what to test ?22:45
stgraberI can't download DVD22:45
davmor2kubuntu alt 64bit if you can22:45
davmor2only one test on it22:46
stgraberok, downloading22:46
slangasekfwiw, I'm satisfied with the test coverage already at this point, so further tests are gravy and not a blocker for the alpha22:48
stgraberok, I'll need an hour to get the ISO, then probably one more hour to do the testing22:48
slangasekif someone were to test UbuntuStudio amd64, I bet they'd appreciate making it into the alpha for a change22:48
slangaseksbeattie: you filed bug #271689 as private?22:59
sbeattieslangasek: it was a crash bug report.23:00
sbeattieI'll open it up.23:00
slangaseksbeattie: ok; or subscribe me at least, so I know whether or not to release note it :)23:00
sbeattieslangasek: you should be subscribed, I don't think it's worth release noting; It's quite possible it's a dupe given https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-places-plugin23:02
slangasekok, thanks23:03
davmor2slangasek: I'll do whole disk and auto resize for ubuntu stdio then I'm off to bed23:10
slangasekso much for you wanting sleep :)23:10
davmor2I have 2 machines free now with the Kubuntu tests finished so it's only one test on each :)23:11
davmor2slangasek: pot, kettle, black ring any bells :D23:13
slangasekhey, I rarely profess to /wanting/ sleep23:14

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