[00:31] There is a new test cases for the -server install that has been added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ServerInstall [00:31] a test case for tomcat. [00:31] How can I add it to the isotesting tracker ? [01:17] stgraber: what happened to the CSS on the ISO tracker? I can't reach the checkboxes anymore to disable images. :) [01:19] oh ? [01:19] seems to work here. [01:20] we had some broken CSS in squid's cache during last upgrade but that was one or two weeks ago and forcing firefox to reload the page (shift+reload) did the trick [01:29] * slangasek gives it a try [01:30] stgraber: nope, they're wayyy off to the side, doesn't work on a 1280x800 screen here... [01:39] kubuntu desktop rebuilding, finally [01:46] slangasek: can you make me a screenshot of that ? it's been a long time since I last touched the tracker CSS code, must be a side effect of a brainstorm update [01:48] stgraber: http://people.ubuntu.com/~vorlon/wherez%20my%20checkboxiz%20yo.png [01:48] * cody-somerville needs people to help test Xubuntu :) [01:49] ok, that's really weird, I'll ping nand when I see him. He also has 1280x800 and is the last one who changed the CSS ... [01:50] does reducing the font size make the checkbox appear ? (or just zooming out) [01:50] zooming out? [01:50] as in ^- ? [01:50] yes, it appears, but yuck that's tiny [01:52] the spacing between the columns seems to be something like 3x what's called for [01:53] yeah, and that spacing is supposed to be dynamic ... [02:03] stgraber: btw, it's probably ok to take the Kubuntu-KDE4 products off the tracker now, we shouldn't have any more builds of those [02:17] ok, I'll do that in the next update. [02:17] we probably also have some testcases to update/add/remove [02:19] ah, if we're queuing wishlist requests, then having mythbuntu alternate on there would be nice too :) [02:21] oh, they are now built the same way all the others are ? [02:22] IIRC it was the reason they didn't want to be included before [02:25] mythbuntu alternate is, yes [02:53] kubuntu desktop posted at last, with the should-be-fixed ubiquity [03:03] * Hobbsee pokes people who are awake about ISO testing! [03:17] <_Zeus_> should I install to test the ISOs? or should i just boot it and stop right before install [03:17] _Zeus_: installing it is usually the idea, to check that works. [03:18] <_Zeus_> ah [03:25] <_Zeus_> I'm testing an install of i386 Desktop w/ manual partitioning [03:25] cool :) [03:26] <_Zeus_> am i supposed to test all the types of installs? [03:26] <_Zeus_> or is it optional [03:26] go Hobbsee!! way to send out a similar message to four mailing lists! [03:27] _Zeus_: the more the better, but either way [03:27] nellery: *grin*. 2 got moderated, though. [03:27] * Hobbsee figured people probably weren't subscribed multiple times [03:28] <_Zeus_> slow downloads [03:28] heh, you sent it to u-d-d and u-d-a [03:29] <_Zeus_> i had no idea you could get them earlier like this :D [03:29] _Zeus_: you can :) [03:29] _Zeus_: but they might kill your kittens. [03:29] <_Zeus_> i will from now on [03:29] _Zeus_: \o/ [03:29] <_Zeus_> eh, i don't really worry, i reinstall all the time cause i keep /home in a diff partition [03:30] same here. [03:30] i just have a download limit [03:30] <_Zeus_> oh :P [03:30] and i can't find a recent unmetered iso to rsync from. [03:30] <_Zeus_> 1MB/s now :D [03:31] <_Zeus_> Hobbsee: wait, what does that mean? [03:31] _Zeus_: my isp has an unmetered site, which often mirrors the iso's - but they haven't done kubuntu ones, which is what i'd like. [03:31] <_Zeus_> ohhh, i get it [03:32] <_Zeus_> i just use vanilla ubuntu [03:33] <_Zeus_> not too crazy for KDE [03:33] <_Zeus_> man, my download speeds are all over the place this is annoying [03:42] <_Zeus_> will i have to download another cd image when it comes out? [03:42] <_Zeus_> or can i update it [03:44] you can update it - there's a tool called rsync. [03:44] if you click the little green down arrow + cd icon, it gives you a command to use so you can rsync it. [03:45] You can read more about rsync on the wiki : community/RsyncCdImage [03:45] which is a real url, on the page [03:45] <_Zeus_> ok [03:46] <_Zeus_> so when the real version of a6 comes out, i can use rsync? [03:46] yes [03:46] although, if there are no release critical bugs on it, this will *be* the real version of alpha 6. [03:46] it just gets copied over to the release directory [03:47] <_Zeus_> great [03:47] <_Zeus_> do you know how to find that out? [03:47] as in, how to check if it is the same? [03:47] <_Zeus_> yes [03:47] <_Zeus_> sure [03:47] there are md5sums on each of the pages - compare them. [03:47] <_Zeus_> great [03:48] if for some reason we have to respin, the testing page will show that as well, and null all the previous results, iirc. [03:48] or at least, reset the testing counts [03:56] <_Zeus_> brb if it works [04:05] Im going offline to do the ISO tests, I'll come back with any reports on showstoppers [05:12] so far, we've had zero people testing wubi - is anyone in a position to test this? [06:33] slangasek: I'll try poking at wubi. Sigh. [06:36] sbeattie: enjoy :-) [06:49] morning everybody [06:59] morning ara [06:59] morning sbeattie :-) [06:59] sbeattie: wow it might be late for you! [07:00] 11pm. that's not actually out of the ordinary. [07:23] stgraber: ping [07:24] does any one have the link to post a new story to the QA blog? [07:41] I answer myself: http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/add/story [08:19] Morning Everybody [08:19] morning [08:19] slangasek: any other re-spins bar Kubuntu? [08:21] morning davmor2 [08:21] davmor2: ubiquity worked for me this morning on the kubuntu desktop re-spin [08:22] would be nice to confirm :) [08:22] Arby: \o/ [08:22] I've let jr know already [08:22] cool [08:23] don't call him jr though might get shot ;) [08:23] davmor2: the ubufox thing appears to be fixed with a post-install update, but now I'm seeing 2 homepage tabs + the eula the first time firefox is started. [08:23] trying to find something that doesn't highlight him so he doesn't get excessively nagged :) [08:23] \o/ the next respin should burn the fix too [08:25] davmor2: nope, everything else should be golden, until someone reports that it isn't [08:25] Today, I will mostly be hitting 64bit and wubi and M-A on 32bit [08:25] slangasek: cool :) [08:38] cody-somerville: none of your xubuntu testers have reported in yet? [08:57] * slangasek queues xubuntu desktop amd64 for overnight download [09:50] ara: your back :) Are we posting about Testing Jam yet and are we being specific on just live cd's? [09:52] davmor2: yes, i was installing alpha 6 in my personal laptop :) [09:53] davmor2: yes, please, do. about the live cds only thing, I think we agreed on that for the first testing jam, isn't? [09:53] cool np's post shortly [10:14] ara: posted on planet shortly [10:15] davmor2: cool, thanks [10:21] ara: should be on planet now :) === Hobbsee` is now known as Hobbsee [11:47] anyone testing a live cd at all? [11:54] davmor2: I did earlier today [11:55] davmor2: ubuntu desktop i386 [11:55] davmor2: it went well in one of my machines [11:56] davmor2: but it is failing in another one. i will investigate further [11:57] did you get https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/271693 [11:57] Launchpad bug 271693 in ubiquity "Intrepid: ubiquity throws up an error message box part way throw the install" [Undecided,New] [11:59] ara: ^ [12:00] davmor2: yes [12:00] okay cool ta [12:00] davmor2: ok [12:44] heno: My blog is aggregated on 3 or 4 planets now too :) [12:45] heh [12:45] * heno tests Ubuntu i386 DVD [14:03] ara: hehe, looks like you found the link you were looking for :) For your information I'm now in Canada so only appear around 14:00-15:00 CEST [14:03] stgraber: :D [14:19] stgraber: how's things dude? === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [14:25] * heno tests kubuntu i386 DVD [15:26] davmor2: I tested the live i386 cd and got the popup, documenting it in the marked as duplicate bug 271641 [15:28] Hrm, ubot5 is not triggering on bug numbers anymore? [15:51] sbeattie: only does it on full links which kinda defeats the object me thinks [15:57] Is it not sudo oem-config-prepare any more? [15:59] bdmurray: no it's clicking on the button ;) [16:00] I've no button though! [16:01] bdmurray: on what desktop? [16:02] ubuntu i386 [16:03] Have you done the reboot after initial install it should be there on the desktop was for me on 64bit [16:03] bdmurray: ^ [16:04] yeah, I'm logged in as the OEM user so must have rebooted [16:05] hmmmm stranger and stranger :-/ [16:06] ah that could be why I did Kubuntu not Ubuntu [16:06] losing track of what I've tested can't be a good sign [16:09] bdmurray: have a look in sys -> admin/prefs and see if there is a menu entry for it [16:12] davmor2: nope, I'm going to give it another shot [16:12] i'll try 64bit in a second [16:12] * cody-somerville really needs some help with testing Xubuntu images :) [16:13] cody-somerville: I'm on that next [16:14] teach you to have the quickest system :P [16:15] hrm, wondering why wubi boots with en_GB by default... [16:16] isn't based off your windows setting? [16:16] davmor2: I'll take xubuntu i386 manual partition... [16:17] bdmurray: I'll verify, but I'd be extremely surprised if my win2k vm was set to GB. [16:17] sbeattie: it takes the info from your windows setup [16:18] unless agostino has made a slight bobo [16:18] mine is set to uk time anyway [16:19] bliss on ubuntu it is just WRONG!!!!!! [16:22] what's this? http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/ [16:23] someone after our job ;) [16:23] Looks to me like an independent ad-supported hardware testing/reporting forum. [16:24] Likely not as well targeted as people here, but see http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/other for distro "support" [16:32] * davmor2 takes xubuntu 64bit and ubuntu oem 64 bit [16:36] cody-somerville: what's the bug number for the ubuntu usplash in xubuntu I can't find it :( [16:37] Not sure [16:40] davmor2: did you choose the live desktop or the quick installer? [16:41] live desktop [16:41] maybe, that's it I choose the minimal installer [16:42] bdmurray: It should really make any difference I don't think I'll soon tell you anyway [16:42] The card reader of my notebook doesn't work in 8.04, but works in 8.10 alpha5 (tested in livecd), there's a way to work in 8.04? [16:43] leandroo: yes create a kernel module for it and install [16:44] or running the 2.6.27 kernel with hardy [16:45] leandroo: Or, we're close enough to 8.10, that you might be able to just upgrade. While there are surely a number of bugs remaining, your help testing would help ensure a better release. [16:46] bdmurray: I got it here [16:47] davmor2: you have the icon? [16:47] yeap [16:48] thanks davmor2 persia [16:48] and bdmurray =] [17:06] * davmor2 moves onto xubuntu 64bit alt and live [17:09] davmor2: 8.10 alpha 5? [17:09] 8.10 alpha 6 testing [17:10] davmor2: nice, i teste alpha 5 and get bug in flash 10 with firefox =/ [17:10] *tested [18:14] <_Zeus_> I found a bug in the live cd install; should i report it on launchpad then include it in my test results? [18:15] Yes [18:15] just add the bug number [18:15] <_Zeus_> 271817 [18:16] _Zeus_: what is the bug [18:16] <_Zeus_> bug 271817 [18:16] <_Zeus_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/271817 [18:16] Launchpad bug 271817 in ubuntu "An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed" [Undecided,New] [18:16] <_Zeus_> i don't know where to get more info about it [18:16] already known [18:16] <_Zeus_> i didn't see any bug report about it [18:16] it is dublicate [18:17] <_Zeus_> i searched for it, no matches [18:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/271693 [18:17] Launchpad bug 271693 in ubiquity "Intrepid: ubiquity throws up an error message box part way throw the install" [Undecided,Fix released] [18:18] <_Zeus_> oh, now i see it. i wonder why the bug duplicate thing didn't list it [18:18] <_Zeus_> marked [18:20] _Zeus_: I think you have to input the exact phrase the other person used [18:20] <_Zeus_> huh? === asac_ is now known as asac [18:22] Doesn't have to be the exact phrase, but something close. It might be good to change that bug title to include the error message. [18:27] noted and changed [18:40] who all here is doing kubuntu desktop testing? [18:41] (also, ubuntu desktop testing) [18:42] me why what do you want? [18:44] slangasek: ^ [18:44] davmor2: well, I'm considering another testing cycle for the desktop images due to that ubiquity bug, and am trying to evaluate whether we can get the testing done in a reasonable amount of time [18:45] don't forget xubuntu too then [18:45] I was going to pass on rerolling xubuntu, which doesn't have an OEM mode, and document that as errata [18:46] davmor2: btw, I wanted to suggest that maybe it's not necessary to re-enter the bug numbers for each image where the bug manifests... I seem to be spending a lot of time mousing over bug icons that are all the same bug :) [18:46] slangasek: I think re-rolling the desktop images would be a good idea; that ubiquity bug is sure to generate a lot of dupe bugs if it gets released. [18:46] slangasek: is this for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/271693 [18:46] Launchpad bug 271693 in ubiquity "Intrepid: ubiquity throws up an error message An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from CD failed" [Undecided,Fix released] [18:46] davmor2: yes [18:46] sbeattie: exactly [18:47] slangasek: it affects xubuntu too then [18:47] yes, it does [18:47] I didn't say it didn't affect xubuntu, I just said I wasn't planning on respinning xubuntu [18:47] because xubuntu has a hard enough time getting all its tests in [18:47] fair enough :) [18:48] slangasek: most of them are done :) [18:49] ah; there were zero results for xubuntu alternate last time I loaded the page [18:49] 2 on 64bit and I was going onto 32bit as soon as I'd finished the others :) [18:49] slangasek: I've got a manual partitioning xubuntu desktop i386 successful testrun that I haven't reported yet, thanks to wubi and edubuntu [18:50] thanks to wubi and edubuntu you have it, or thanks to wubi and edubuntu you haven't reported it? :) [18:51] thanks to wubi and edubuntu issues, I've been too busy to report. [18:51] err, report it. [18:51] not that I've reported the edubuntu and wubi issues either. :-) [18:52] sbeattie: what wubi issue? [18:53] slangasek: If you're going to respin sooner than latter please it's already 19:00 here [18:53] they're already rebuilding [18:54] davmor2: two things: umenu.exe reports invalid cd when I try to run (in win2k) and it sets itself up with LANG=en_GB.UTF8 despite my win2k environment being en_US. [18:54] sbeattie: known evand is working on it [18:54] umenu.exe sorry [18:54] davmor2: oh good. [18:54] davmor2: ubuntu daily-live 20080918 is already published, if you want to get started [18:55] syncing now [18:55] davmor2: how much time do you have left for us tonight, and which images are you actively working on? [18:56] I got till midnight I guess but as I was up till 23:00 yesterday do it I'd like to go to sleep at some point :) [18:57] well, do you think you're going to be able to finish xubuntu alternate, and also get through ubuntu+kubuntu desktop amd64+i386, or do I need to drum up more testers? [18:57] sbeattie: btw, does the 'edubuntu' comment mean you're handling edubuntu i386? [18:58] slangasek: yes [18:58] sbeattie: ok, great [19:00] slangasek: Xubuntu is np's most of the issues are already reported. I will be able to plough through live installer tests np's [19:00] the only limiter will be if I get slow band rather than broadband [19:01] ETA 30min on updated kubuntu desktop images [19:01] slangasek: cool bring it on dude :) [19:02] * davmor2 falls asleep in his chair and operates the keyboard by dreams [19:03] * slangasek suddenly questions the reliability of the test results on the tracker [19:10] slangasek: only now you question it? :-) [19:12] :P [19:12] ;-) [19:21] kubuntu desktop 20080918 published [19:23] yay [19:23] burns ubuntu 64bit live [19:52] slangasek: all bar xubuntu alt 32 bit are now pretty much complete [19:52] starting on the lives now and I'll drop back to the other xubuntu if there is time :) [19:55] hello, just wanted to ask when alpha6 comes out. :) [19:56] n0body: never ;) we decide to pack up shop and go to bed :) [19:56] :D i see [19:56] firefox works correctly now \o/ one bug down :) [19:57] thats good [20:00] davmor2: does it still start 3 tabs? [20:00] yes but 2 of them aren't blank anymore :) [20:12] hmm, I had said 20080918 earlier for kubuntu desktop, and it's really 20080918.1 now [20:22] * davmor2 now has a strong coffee [20:23] * n0body goes to bed now [20:23] any chance that alpha 6 comes out tomorrow? [20:24] maybe but lat on into slangasek time zone I should think [20:24] it's due out today, not tomorrow. [20:24] :( feels sad [20:25] great guys. thank you :) [20:25] pleads with his machines to work faster [20:37] davmor2: what's at the bottom of your queue right now? I'll chip from the other end [20:37] Kubuntu lives and xubuntu alt [20:38] nearly finished test 3 for ubuntu [20:41] conveniently, xubuntu alt i386 is the one I've already snarfed [20:42] slangasek: I've just put in bug 271512 once on whole disk [20:43] sounds good, thanks [20:43] Goodevening [20:43] davmor2 > are you Danish? [20:44] English [20:44] Ooh... [20:44] Because... in Danish DavMor means HeyMom [20:44] :D [20:45] where as in england it's the first 3 letters of my first and last name Dave Morley :) [20:45] Sorry for off-topic... Does anyone knows when Alpha 6 will get released? [20:45] Oooh :) [20:45] when it's finished :) [20:46] Okay then... i thought that the ubuntu devel. team used to stick to the schedule... :) [20:47] Should be today :) [20:47] Exactly :) [20:47] it's on schedule for a release on 20080918, in the release manager's timezone [20:47] and where is the release manager located? :P [20:48] that's 3 days off he's on his way to mars :D [20:48] West Coast US [20:49] god I forgot how slow my old box was :( [20:49] Oh! it's only 11:48 am on the West Coast :D [20:49] haha... [20:49] It's 09:49 pm in Denmark! But might be the answer :D [20:50] Yoghurt^: It's always from WC timezone [20:50] Okay :) [20:51] we release early sometimes if everything is tested to death [20:51] Yoghurt^: 12:51pm, actually. :) [20:51] davmor2: the release manager may be a space cadet, but he doesn't resort to inventing his own timezones [20:51] what? where? :P [20:52] Yoghurt^: the current time in US/Pacific is 12:52, not 11:52 [20:52] Yoghurt^: in slangasek The RM time zone [20:52] aah okay :P [20:52] it's summer, UTC-7 instead of UTC-8. :) [21:12] slangasek: thanks to sbeattie that's ubuntu i386 done bar wubi and m-a [21:13] so I'm going to start on kubuntu i368 now on that machine [21:13] hmm, you know that 100% test case x image coverage isn't required for alphas ? [21:15] slangasek: I take pride in my role as a tester I like to get as close to complete as possible :) [21:18] slangasek: fingers crossed by 23:00 my time I should be pretty much through them all [22:28] eavning [22:29] lo [22:31] came in here for no paticular reason, testing alpha 5 on a desktop since a week and most things are going smoothly :) [22:33] epiphany-webkit was a nice addition to see already even though it seem to have some way to go before being a full web browser [22:35] yes it's a nice speedy browser to be fair as you say though lot of work yet [22:35] I couldn't find extensions at all? do you know if they are currently disabled? [22:36] are we still testing ? [22:44] stgraber: Yes [22:45] davmor2: any suggestion on what to test ? [22:45] I can't download DVD [22:45] kubuntu alt 64bit if you can [22:46] only one test on it [22:46] ok, downloading [22:48] fwiw, I'm satisfied with the test coverage already at this point, so further tests are gravy and not a blocker for the alpha [22:48] ok, I'll need an hour to get the ISO, then probably one more hour to do the testing [22:48] if someone were to test UbuntuStudio amd64, I bet they'd appreciate making it into the alpha for a change [22:59] sbeattie: you filed bug #271689 as private? [23:00] slangasek: it was a crash bug report. [23:00] I'll open it up. [23:00] sbeattie: ok; or subscribe me at least, so I know whether or not to release note it :) [23:02] slangasek: you should be subscribed, I don't think it's worth release noting; It's quite possible it's a dupe given https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-places-plugin [23:03] ok, thanks [23:10] slangasek: I'll do whole disk and auto resize for ubuntu stdio then I'm off to bed [23:10] so much for you wanting sleep :) [23:11] I have 2 machines free now with the Kubuntu tests finished so it's only one test on each :) [23:13] slangasek: pot, kettle, black ring any bells :D [23:14] hey, I rarely profess to /wanting/ sleep