[18:53] <qense> hello
[21:47]  * mdke prods newz2000 
[21:47] <newz2000> hey mdke
[21:50] <mdke> newz2000: do you think this search box thing is a blocker for the wiki theme? it's a definite pain in the behind
[21:51] <newz2000> the way search words are obscured by the edit bar at the bottom?
[21:52] <mdke> yeah
[21:52] <newz2000> I don't know if it's a blocker, but it does need to be addressed
[21:52] <mdke> mm
[21:52] <newz2000> I wonder if we can use the translucent-until-hover trick to make it less noticable
[21:53] <newz2000> set the opacity on the bar to something like 40% then when you hover set it to 100%
[21:53] <newz2000> this can be done purely in css
[21:53] <mdke> that would be clever, although I guess the text would conflict with the text in the editbar
[21:54] <newz2000> possibly
[21:54] <mdke> I'll try
[21:54] <mdke> thanks
[21:54] <newz2000> do you know how to do this?
[21:55] <newz2000> if the editbar has an ID of editbar then the css rule would be #editbar { opacity: 0.4; } and then also #editbar:hover { opacity 1.0; }
[22:00] <mdke> newz2000: no, I didn't - thanks :)
[22:33] <knome> newz2000, if you need any help with the feature tour or any web relate issue, please pm me
[22:33] <mdke> newz2000: no, it doesn't work too well. Maybe playing around with the colours will though
[22:33] <knome> newz2000, i'll part from this channel, too much following @ irc
[22:34] <Volans_away> mdke: have you tried to put the bottom bar only in the left and right, leaving the center without bar?
[22:34] <Volans_away> can be a solution if not so bad graphically
[22:35] <mdke> Volans_away: well, there is not much space for most resolutions to just use the edges, and the page width is fixed...
[22:36] <Volans> right... and put it on the top is too invasive?
[22:36] <mdke> I think so yeah
[22:37] <Volans> latest two ideas...
[22:39] <Volans> put it vertically on the left.... OR put only a small box at bottom left saying something like "Quick Links" and when onmouseover on the box show the complete tab
[22:39] <mdke> ooh, something like the second solution might work. newz2000 ?
[22:39] <knome> onmouseover is risky though :)
[22:39] <newz2000> mdke: yeah, that would work
[22:40] <newz2000> needs javascript to work well though
[22:40] <newz2000> though a suckerfish style menu can be done with css only
[22:40] <mdke> like an arrow in the bottom which would bring across the editbar
[22:40]  * mdke googles "suckerfish"
[22:40] <newz2000> son of suckerfish actually. :-)
[22:41] <mdke> I see it
[22:42] <mdke> that looks pretty promising
[22:42] <mdke> I'll have a play around
[22:43] <mdke> nice idea Volans
[22:43]  * mdke bbl
[22:43] <Volans> thanks :)
[22:44] <Volans> but as newz2000 pointed before require javascript
[22:44] <newz2000> suckerfish can work without js ok
[22:44] <newz2000> on newer browsers
[22:45] <newz2000> adding a little js makes it a bit smoother though
[22:47] <mdke> well, javascript is well beyond me. But I'll give suckerfish a go and see what it looks like :D
[22:51] <mdke> mmm http://mondaybynoon.com/examples/suckerfish_hoverlightbox_redux/
[22:55] <newz2000> oooh, pretty
[23:24] <mdke> gah, no luck with suckerfish for now
[23:25] <mdke> I'll try again another day!
[23:25] <mdke> good night all and thanks
[23:26] <Volans> bye mdke