=== Fersure|Away is now known as Fersure [01:53] Please help test Xubuntu alpha candidate: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/xubuntu/all [02:02] cody-somerville: is running that in vbox helpful at all? [02:02] sure [02:02] :) [03:21] is there a vnc server in xubuntu by default? [03:23] Oneword: no note by default... [03:23] not [03:23] what package do I need [03:23] !vnc [03:23] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [03:26] does that new xubuntu contain gnome libs? [03:26] Catoptromancy: some, i believe... [03:26] = ( [03:26] gnome-games? [03:26] i wish xubuntu was more xfce and less gnome [03:27] how come ubuntu doesn't see the network card, debian could [03:29] oh, it does. my fault [03:30] heh [03:30] I wonder if its possible to just install xfce4 [03:30] Catoptromancy: you can [03:30] without xubuntu-desktop [03:31] install with nothing but base files and apt [03:31] Catoptromancy: install a command-line system from an alternate install cd, and then just "sudo aptitude install xfce4" [03:31] ya I thought it was alterante [03:31] worked awesomely on debian [03:31] pure xfce, no extra luggage [03:32] I wish live cd also has "install text console only" [03:32] live was less than 600 mb, coulda fit [03:33] Catoptromancy: it comes with totem, gnome-games, etc. so... [03:33] still coulda fit alot more [03:33] last time I downloaded xubuntu cd was like 699 mbs [03:33] just big enough to fit on a cd [03:34] it's kinda designed that way :) [03:34] 8.04 live cd was like 530 or 540 mbs [03:35] coulda fit complete OOo on it [03:35] Catoptromancy: yes i think it is possible to install just xfce4. search the repos... [03:37] yup = ) [03:40] where do I set a proxy for apt-get or package manager? [03:50] hi, any recommendations for a light and good bittorrent client? [03:51] rtorrent ftw ! [03:51] !info rtorrent [03:51] rtorrent (source: rtorrent): ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 346 kB, installed size 968 kB [03:52] thx [03:56] heh will need to google that to figure out how to use it [03:56] but it awesome [04:24] there is a wiki and chat for rtorrent [04:24] http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentCommonTasks and #rtorrent [04:48] thanks [04:51] how do I enable remote remote desktop on xubuntu?> [04:57] I'm creating some Launchers and I want them to have the icon of the application. Where do Xubuntu store Icons? [05:01] /usr/share/pixmaps or icons normally [05:06] there it was, thanks favro (again!) [05:07] filipegatti: np :) [05:52] hey, I have been looking around the boards but I am wondering if anyone has tried to put xubuntu on a 32MB ram 200 mhz machine, even though the alternate install recommends 64 MB === Sunborn1 is now known as sunborn [05:54] I'm running a minimal install and it needs 40mb just to get to the desktop [05:55] puppy or damn small linux might be better alternatives [05:55] yuck, ok [05:55] thanks [05:56] might as well stay with win95 than that [05:56] ubuntu has spoiled me [05:56] I had a dapper minimal with fluxbox and with no wallpaper it only used 28mb to get to the desktop [05:58] I could see if there is some ram for this old box floating around on ebay [05:59] I am thinking would 4 MB be enough to do anything else other than run the box? [05:59] I have some spare 32mb sdram - where are you? [05:59] Canada [06:00] in the middle of nowhere northern canada [06:00] other side of the globe in australia here :) [06:00] which would explain why you are still up [06:01] 3pm it is [06:02] bah if I wanted to put more ram in, I would have to figure out what clock speed the ram in there is at. I think it would be too much work [06:03] hehe [06:06] well I will consider it thanks for the info favro, have a good rest of the day [06:06] see ya :) === Fersure is now known as Fersure|Away [07:43] can i change the window manager on xfce to open box? [07:54] to use compiz with xfce the command is compiz --replace I wonder if that'll work with openbox... [07:54] openbox --replace ? [08:05] xinitrc [08:05] !xinitrc [08:05] Sorry, I don't know anything about xinitrc [08:29] favro, how do you mean the command is? do i type that into a terminal? [08:29] how do i add compiz to xfce? does it run as fast as without it? [08:30] compiz is heavy on the system [08:30] and I was more thinking out loud then suggesting - sorry [08:30] how about changing the window manager to fluxbox? [08:31] CostaRicanQuaker: you can use any wm you want - but prob not in xfce [08:31] normally you install openbox and select it at login from options [08:32] why not? i found this: http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:XFCE/Openbox [08:32] I prefer fluxbox myself [08:32] CostaRicanQuaker: I said prob not - if that link is something you want to try then go ahead? [08:34] how do you "save session"?= [08:35] it's in the settings manager under login [08:36] ok thanks [08:36] brb [11:07] Why is Kubuntu always behind you? Are you more integrated with the main distro or are you just quicker? [13:50] Hello. Please help test the Xubuntu Intrepid Alpha 6 candidate by visiting http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [14:57] Hi, I want to keep the right click functionality from the default install of xubuntu (create shortcuts) but i would also like to be able to make the xfce4-menu appear at the pointer when i press a certain keycombo, is this possible? [14:58] gorebeh, probably not [14:59] cody-somerville: at the moment when i press the key combo it launches the menu from whatever pannel its attached to, is there no way to launch it if its not attached to a pannel? [15:00] I'm afraid I don't do anything fancy with my xfce4 install :P [15:00] cody-somerville: cool nps :) mabe ill cheat somehow with a hidden menu or something [15:00] :] [15:08] can one upgrade from dapper to the latest? [15:08] yes, you should be able to [15:09] latest being 8.04 :] [15:12] Hi everyone, I have a problem=( I have lost my gnome-panel I cant get it back, (Menybar) pls help im new with Linux [15:15] robert__: gnome-panel or xfce4-panel? [15:15] are you on gnome or in xfce4? [15:16] Myrtti, im not sure im a beginner =) But i think its xfce4 [15:17] did you have brown-n-orange ubuntu logo on the panel or a cute blue mouse? [15:17] a blue mouse i think [15:18] then you can get the panel back with alt-f2 and typing xfce4-panel on the run prompt. [15:19] Myrtti You are my hero =( thanks alot m8 [15:19] =) [15:19] oh my gawd, a deja vu [15:19] hehe Okey thx =) [15:19] erhm. right. [15:19] no probs. [15:21] didn't have the heart to correct him... [15:21] back to business... [15:22] can someone help me set up thunderbird, i am at the stage where the dialogue says incoming/outgoing server if pop/imap is checked, i clicked on my connection details and can't find anything other than the following data: ip address, broadcast address, subnet mask, default route, primary dns. secondary dns, they're all numbers, whihc do i have to enter in the outgoing incoming slots? [15:24] you can't figure them out from those unless you're super wizard [15:24] incoming/outcoming information is given to you by your ISP or email service provider. [15:24] how do i figure them out then? [15:24] for instance, google mail has its own. [15:24] the account i want to set up is a ymail/gmail account [15:24] so what do i have to do? [15:25] hold on... [15:26] CostaRicanQuaker: check https://mail.google.com/mail/#settings/fwdandpop first [15:26] check that imap is enabled [15:27] CostaRicanQuaker: and then follow http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77662 [15:28] and for ymail? [15:30] for ymail http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/mailplus/pop/pop-35.html and http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/mailplus/pop/pop-14.html [15:30] can i have several different accounts on thunderbird like can i have both the ymail and gmail set up? [15:32] sure [15:33] how so? [15:34] i just finished setting up for gmail [15:35] and it has a loading bar, it says connecting [15:35] I use claws-mail myself so I can't remember the details :-< [15:35] what distro are you on? [15:35] but it should be quite straightforward [15:35] xubuntu [15:36] what's claws mail? i haven't seen it on xubuntu [15:36] waht's the diffference from say kmail and why do you like it [15:36] connection timed out [15:36] I think claws-mail is lighter to run than thunderbird - and it's gtk [15:36] unlike kmail [15:37] you can add accounts to thunderbird with Edit - Account settings [15:37] and it's not that ugly, once you install the Tango theme [15:38] sudo aptitude install claws-mail? [15:38] yup [15:38] please wait [15:42] Myrtti, ok i just got claws mail [15:42] now what do i do to set up the ymail account [15:42] i mean i see that link you gave me [15:43] the username on claws [15:44] does it correspond to either "account/name/login" from the page you linked [15:44] or e-mail address? [15:44] user id yes. [15:44] full name is your full name [15:45] username though [15:45] on the claws thing [15:47] ok i just set it up [15:47] but as soon as i clicked on get mail [15:47] it said error connection to plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com [15:47] failed [15:47] what do i do? what did i do wrong? [15:48] do you have paid yahoomail plus account? [15:49] no [15:49] have you gotten yahoo mail to work in other clients than the webmail before? [15:49] do you have to to be able to open ymail on a program like claws-mail? what about thunderbird and gmail? [15:50] thunderbird keeps trying to connect adn then it times out [15:58] are you sure you've got the ports correctly? [15:58] and the username? [16:00] ok i just set up the gmail one [16:00] and that one's working [16:01] do you have to have a paid for account for the ymail one to work on pop tho? [16:10] oh, he left just as I was going to answer him [18:07] Hi i really need help, i just install xubuntu-dektop, and i'm confuse [18:07] oh? [18:11] Danu: perhaps you could tell us what you are confused about... [18:12] everything!, for example how do i change themes? === Hondo_Kitsune is now known as HK_Away [18:13] please [18:14] !xfce-themes | Danu [18:14] Danu: Themes for Xfce4 are simply GTK2+ themes which means Gnome themes are also compatible with your xfce4 desktop. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/ To install icons, unpack them to ~/.icons/ - Visit http://www.xfce-look.org/ for all kinds of eyecandy for your Xfce4 desktop! - See also !themes for other GNOME theme sites [18:15] but i already have the .themes folder (because i have gnome too) [18:15] and? [18:16] and where do i change them? [18:16] Danu: Applications - Settings - Settings Manager [18:16] User interface [18:17] wasn't that hard, now was it? :-) [18:18] sorry a lot but i don't see it :( [18:19] ups now i do =) thenks [18:20] and now how do i apply it? [18:21] you did unpack the theme to the .themes directory, right? [18:21] yes [18:22] another thing, sorry the bother but, i have in the applications menu wien icons in "others" [18:23] *blink* [18:24] whut? [18:26] wine* [18:26] yes? [18:28] all the icons of applications that i uninstall a long time ago are in "others" [18:37] bye thenks anyway [18:40] hey guys, how much faster is xfce than gnome? === HK_Away is now known as Hondo_Kitsune [19:04] where could I find some info about the storage device management in hardy and later versions? (e.g. the standardised /dev/sdx naming scheme and what this incurs) [19:14] hi anyone around? [19:14] i require assistance in mounting fat32 [19:19] anyone? [19:19] sure [19:21] i have a dual boot system windows and xubuntu [19:22] ok [19:22] c: d:(which is fat32 so that i can share between windows and xubuntu) [19:23] i notice that unlike ubuntu, the d drive does not auto mount [19:24] i have been looking through the forums but can't seem to figure out what command line am i to use [19:24] sorry....i'm pretty much a noob with linux [19:25] hmmm. [19:28] dreamy: that would be the mount command [19:28] http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/ [19:29] if you want to make it persistent you need to edit the fstab file in your /etc directory [19:32] ok [19:32] should i follow this command from the webbie [19:32] # sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hdb1 /media/c [19:32] almost [19:33] but change my ntfs to fat32 [19:33] vfat [19:33] and change hdb1 to my drive name [19:33] oh ok [19:33] but [19:33] have you run fdisk -l? [19:33] yep [19:34] ohh [19:35] i see it now [19:35] what the outpout for your fat32 partition? [19:35] output* [19:35] its further down the webbie [19:35] yep, read the whole thing ;) you don't want to mess up data or worse [19:35] yeah that's all my sch work [19:35] else i'll be dead [19:36] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [19:36] /dev/sda1 * 1 4865 39078081 7 HPFS/NTFS [19:36] /dev/sda2 4866 9729 39070080 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) [19:36] /dev/sda5 4866 6162 10418121 b W95 FAT32 [19:36] /dev/sda6 6163 6466 2441848+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris [19:36] /dev/sda7 6467 9729 26210016 83 Linux [19:37] oy oy oy oy... [19:37] more than 3 rows, please use the pastebin [19:38] oops [19:38] sorry [19:38] :/ [19:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [19:38] so it's sda5, right? [19:39] yep [19:39] sweet [19:39] its mounted [19:39] :) [19:39] neat [19:40] thanks!!!but how do i make it persistent? [19:40] to be on the safe side, I'd only read data fron that partition for now [19:40] i.e. no writes [19:40] oh? [19:41] why not?i thought it was interchangable? [19:42] I've never played around with fat32 partitions myself in linux, only NTFS ones, and not so long ago, writing to those was kind of risky... I don't want to tell you stuff I'm not 100% sure of [19:43] that's all, might be all good but I can't give you my word :) [19:43] look for more info or ask someone more knowledgeable than I [19:44] ohh...okok....thanks dude. [19:44] np [19:45] as for making it persistent [19:46] could you please paste your fstab (/etc/fstab) in the pastebin and drop the URL to the output here? [19:46] e.g. [19:47] mousepad /etc/fstab [19:47] copy/paste [19:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/48115/ [19:51] ok [19:52] what was the command you typed to mount your partition? could you paste the whole string here? [19:54] sudo mount -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 /dev/sda5 /media/d [19:56] what is the sound configuration utility for xubuntu? [19:59] dreamy: in a terminal type [20:00] sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak && sudo mousepad /etc/fstab [20:00] that will make a backup of your current file and open it in the tet editor with super user privileges (need to edit it) [20:00] done [20:00] tet = text [20:01] ok [20:02] PsynoKhi0: GKSUDO [20:02] do you have the file in front of you, with a red row above it Waring you're using super user blablabla? [20:02] * Myrtti larts PsynoKhi0 for opening mousepad with sudo [20:03] yep [20:03] i have that [20:04] ok, now add a line at the bottom so it looks like this: [20:04] http://paste.ubuntu.com/48120/ [20:04] then save and exit the text editor [20:04] i add line 10? [20:04] yep [20:05] kk [20:05] alright [20:05] done [20:05] save and exit [20:06] ok [20:06] then if you want to check it worked, rebbot the compy [20:06] reboot* [20:06] * PsynoKhi0 now flees [20:08] what is the sound configuration utility for xubuntu? [20:08] lol [20:08] okok [20:08] i reboot [20:08] alsamixer you mean? [20:08] thanks [20:08] np [20:10] PsynoKhi0: that seems to only control alsa, I need all of them. because I can't get some things to work [20:11] all of them what? [20:11] hardware settings? [20:13] do you need to increase input volume to a micrphone, that kind of stuff? [20:14] I need to change default as well [20:14] alsa doesn't seem to control my webcam [20:14] which has a mic [20:15] Slvoice isn't connecting to everyone else, just me. Skype refuses to play audio (in or out) [20:16] nt using xfce right now, though if you go through the volume applet (speaker icon) on top right corner [20:17] there should be omething in the line Open ontrol panel [20:17] there isn't one [20:18] on live it had one, no it doesn't [20:18] now* [20:18] then right click on the top panel (random free space) and choose Add item [20:20] there should be a Mixer applet in the list [20:20] mymixer doesn't tetect my webcam as an audio source [20:21] nothing under View > Manage? [20:24] hey PsynoKhio [20:24] it worked [20:24] :) [20:24] cool :) [20:24] thanks dude [20:24] np *hugs google* [20:24] :D [20:24] hehe [20:25] i want to try chrome on linux [20:25] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows [20:25] ^^ [20:25] that works through wine if I remember correctly [20:26] help! My nvidia driver seems to have gone awol, I'm stuck using VESA in 800x600 http://pastebin.com/m1df0dbb [20:26] yep...it does [20:27] thank god for wine [20:28] you're gonna need the latest version though, there are instructions on winehq.org to get it through Synaptics [20:29] Yashy: tried Envy to install the driver? [20:30] it's in the repo (as long as you have universe and multivers enabled)' [20:31] bye [20:32] Yashy: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new [20:54] My computer is not reading or even mounting my SD flash memory card, shouldn't it be able to? [20:54] that is totally dependant on whether your computer has hardware that is supported [20:55] I did an ls /dev/sd* if that helps [20:55] /dev/sda /dev/sda2 /dev/sda4 /dev/sda6 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sde /dev/sda1 /dev/sda3 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sdf [20:56] no, it really doesn't help [20:56] Well do you know anything that would help us find out? [20:56] what happens if you type "dmesg | tail -f" into terminal and plug the SD flash memory in the computer? [20:58] holyguyver_: looks like you've got several devices that lack partitions [20:59] Myrtti, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/48143/ [20:59] holyguyver_: so it's the sdc1 partition [20:59] venome, I guess, I do not know. [21:00] holyguyver_: 've you tried mount /dev/sdc1 /media/cdrom for example [21:00] (from console) [21:00] (or i can let Myrtti explain it :) ) [21:01] venome trhat thing at the bottom appeared in the terminal before I put in the sd card. [21:01] venome: go ahead, I'm trying to procrastinate work too much and IRC is doing a pretty good job with it [21:01] ok, i see :) [21:01] if the device is connected do a 'sfdisk -l' perhaps? See if you see the filesystem you are looking for [21:02] venome, "[21882.086614] sdc: sdc1" appeared before I attached the card. [21:02] and what happens when you insert the card? [21:02] Myrtti, no response [21:02] holyguyver_: ok, so that means it is not related to the card issue [21:03] then you most likely do not have the drivers (modules) for the card reader hardware [21:03] venome but here is where it gets stranger. [21:04] holyguyver_: do you know what brand is your card reader? is it a notebook one? [21:05] I purchased this computer from the factory with the flash card reader as a normal factory pre-installed hardware that normally comes with the computer, & the computer originally came with MS Vista, well I even then logged out of my Linux distro & back into vista & even vista is giving the same respnse that Linux did. [21:06] holyguyver_: what size is your card? [21:06] holyguyver_: haven't you put you vista into 'hibernate' mode? [21:07] holyguyver_: (that could cause a series of troubles) [21:07] venome, I don't know if the flash card is for notebooks, my mother purchased it. I already said several times that it is a SD card, but I have yet to say it is by SanDisk & it is 2GBs. [21:07] holyguyver_: so unless you've got another 2GBs drive, sdc1 is the flash [21:08] venome, No I have never put my vista into hibernate mode because this is only the second time I have booted into vista in the year & a half that I have owned this computer. When I got it the first thing I did was install Linux. [21:08] holyguyver_: all right, i think it must be the sdc1 device that is the flash partition [21:10] No I do not have another 2 GB partisition, but how did you know other then when I said it, that it was 2GBs? [21:10] holyguyver_: its in the dmesg ... [21:11] Well it is refusing to let me mount it both in Linux & Vista. [21:12] holyguyver_: well, and the sdc gets mounted? [21:12] What would the SDC be? [21:12] how doe it refuse? how are you mounting? [21:12] holyguyver_ : it might be because it's not formatted [21:12] Catoptromancy, I am going to the file manager & right clicking & telling it to mount. [21:13] manually try to mounr [21:13] mount [21:13] venome, If I format it will it still work with the digital camera that I am using it in? [21:14] cat I do not know hot to manually mount, I do not know the cammand, but I mean I was manually mounting it using the GUI. [21:14] mount -t msdosfs /dev/sdc1 /mnt/somedirectory [21:14] somedirectory? [21:14] make sure its dev sdc1 and find an empty directory in /mnt [21:15] How would I find an empty directory? [21:15] see if anything is in it [21:15] or mkdir /mnt.sdcard [21:15] err [21:15] or mkdir /mnt/sdcard [21:15] and [21:15] mount -t msdosfs /dev/sdc1 /mnt/sdcard [21:16] mount -t msdosfs /dev/sdc1 /mnt/sdcard [21:16] mount: mount point /mnt/sdcard does not exist [21:17] mkdir /mnt/sdcard [21:17] that mkdir = makes directory [21:18]