[00:01]  * Lns gives the unsolicited advice to add URL http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ to topic ;)
[04:22] <sbalneav> !handbook
[04:23] <LaserJock> hmm, I think that's a 404 isn't it?
[04:23] <sbalneav> Yeah
[04:23] <sbalneav> url needs to be redone
[04:23] <sbalneav> Can anyone train ubottu ?
[04:24] <sbalneav> ubottu: handbook is The Edubuntu Handbook is currently work-in-progress and can be browsed via  http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/
[04:24] <sbalneav> My edit request has been forwarded :)
[04:25] <LaserJock> we really should get the Handbook off of doc.ubuntu.com
[04:25] <LaserJock> I knew having a seperate, WorkInProgess server was gonna be trouble
[04:25] <sbalneav> We should?
[04:25] <sbalneav> Where should we put it?
[04:25] <LaserJock> yeah, doc.ubuntu.com is supposed to be temporary
[04:25] <sbalneav> oh
[04:26] <LaserJock> just docs in development
[04:26] <LaserJock> it *should* end up either on help.ubuntu.com or edubuntu.org
[04:28] <LaserJock> the problem with doc.ubuntu.com is that people start linking there and then it becomes permanent
[04:35] <LaserJock> sbalneav: dude, did you ever use that XML book you bought for that chemistry website project we were looking at?
[04:35] <LaserJock> project seabass :-)
[04:36] <sbalneav> Yeah, I did.
[04:36] <sbalneav> When did we want to pick that up again?
[04:38] <LaserJock> not sure
[04:38] <LaserJock> I think they got their SOAP interface fixed maybe though
[04:39] <LaserJock> oh wow, they actually released the official version today: http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pug_soap/pug_soap_help.html
[15:06] <sbalneav> Morning all
[18:51] <GJ> I am having a problem finishing the upgrade of Edubuntu. I'm at the point of updating the LTSP chroot following the directions at http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-updates.html
[18:54] <GJ> When I gave the apt-get update command, I got errors saying us.archive.ubuntu.com could not be resolved. Also, it told me to use apt-cdrom to make the cd-rom recognized by APT. That didn't work.
[18:54] <GJ> I don't know whether I can continue to the next command: apt-get upgrade
[18:59] <HedgeMage> GJ:  it sounds like it couldn't find the repo server's IP address -- the update DID NOT run, so you should keep trying
[18:59] <HedgeMage> perils of satellite, I'm afraid
[19:00] <GJ> Using a web browser on the server, I can open that web page consistently. And I've tried to run apt-get update several times.
[19:11] <GJ> This is very frustrating. If two days ago, I had not clicked on that stupid update button, this computer lab would still be working.
[19:12] <GJ> How is possible that Firefox can resolve the URL but apt-get cannot?
[19:14] <HedgeMage> GJ:  ffx may have it cached from earlier?
[19:15] <HedgeMage> GJ:  you could take the IP that you can reach it on and stick it in your hosts file for now
[19:15] <HedgeMage> totally cheating, but it may work
[19:17] <GJ>  Firefox is resolving URLs that have never been entered into it on the server so DNS is working OK
[19:17] <HedgeMage> oh... hmm
[19:17] <HedgeMage> that's not supposed to happen
[19:17] <HedgeMage> have you tried apt again?  It may have been a momentary problem?
[19:18] <GJ> Yes, I've tried many times over the last hour.
[19:18] <HedgeMage> hrm
[19:19] <HedgeMage> it could be that the us rotation is sending you to the server closest to you, which is having issues (the web site isn't mirrored all over IIRC)  not sure what to do about it, though... perhaps put a specific server in your settings instead of a rotation server?
[19:20] <GJ> Keep in mind, I had never seen Ubuntu or Edubuntu prior to two days ago so I don't know what you mean
[19:21] <GJ> Settings? Rotation server?
[19:21] <HedgeMage> sorry
[19:22] <HedgeMage> rotation servers are really just signpoints... you go to one and it sends you to the mirror it thinks will be fastest for you
[19:22] <HedgeMage> You can specify an individual mirror in sources.list (or via synaptic) rather than using a rotation server
[19:23] <HedgeMage> osuosl is a very reliable one, you might try that
[19:23] <HedgeMage> Sorry I can't be more help, I must get back to work.
[19:24] <GJ> Thanks. Anyone else available?
[23:20] <lompa> ola