| * apachelogger pokes Nightrose | 00:01 | |
| * Nightrose pokes apachelogger | 00:02 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: how can you dare doing that Oo | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| Nightrose | oO | 00:02 |
| Nightrose | you just poked me before | 00:03 |
| Riddell | doing what? | 00:03 |
| Nightrose | poking him I assume | 00:03 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: so wasup? | 00:03 |
| * NCommander fails miserably | 00:03 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: hm, good point, I actually just wanted attention :P | 00:04 |
| * Nightrose hugs apachelogger | 00:04 | |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 00:04 |
| * apachelogger hugs Nightrose and Riddell and NCommander | 00:04 | |
| * apachelogger is out of arm | 00:04 | |
| NCommander | I don't seem to fit in with the Debian community | 00:05 |
| NCommander | I posted a debdiff to a proposed change, and the maintainer bit my head off | 00:05 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: btw do you know that someone was quite jealous of you? | 00:05 |
| * NCommander grumbles | 00:05 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: no, who? and why? and when? | 00:05 |
| * Nightrose hands NCommander a new head | 00:05 | |
| * NCommander apt-get install's it | 00:06 | |
| apachelogger | NCommander: don't we do that as well? | 00:06 |
| * apachelogger is pretty sure he does some times, when he has a bad day, which is about ever 3rd day :P | 00:06 | |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: bf - you can guess the rest, no? ;-) | 00:07 |
| apachelogger | hm | 00:08 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: nope, maybe you got a clue for me | 00:08 |
| Nightrose | :P nvm - /me should just go to bed | 00:09 |
| goatsocks | apachelogger: you spend too much time packaging... she's making sexual innuendo! | 00:09 |
| * Nightrose pokes goatsocks | 00:10 | |
| Nightrose | I never do! | 00:10 |
| goatsocks | only in a polite way, of course | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: hm | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | I want to know | 00:11 |
| * goatsocks is wrestling with termcap/terminfo and konsole | 00:11 | |
| * apachelogger wants to be jealous of apachelogger as well :S | 00:11 | |
| goatsocks | ok who in here is using 256 color konsole (that is, TERM=xterm-256color) with gnu screen? | 00:13 |
| goatsocks | konsole is doing something evil with the colors under screen that gnome-terminal doesn't | 00:15 |
| * NCommander smashs his head more | 00:16 | |
| goatsocks | NCommander: who is this meanie? i'll have HULK come and SMASH him after he SMASHES konsole | 00:17 |
| NCommander | goatsocks, no, I think I managed to sink my AM application | 00:17 |
| NCommander | s/AM/NM/g | 00:18 |
| goatsocks | oh what are you working on with NM? | 00:18 |
| NCommander | Posting patches to bugs | 00:19 |
| NCommander | I uploaded a fix as a debdiff with an NMU changelog | 00:19 |
| NCommander | SInce the way the task on the AM application was worded to do it like that | 00:19 |
| NCommander | I reposted the patch twice, once for a mistake I caught afterword, and once because my mail client line wrapped (I forgot to turn off that "feature") | 00:19 |
| NCommander | Debian Maintainer believes I intend to NMU (I hadn't posted an intent to NMU message) | 00:20 |
| NCommander | Gets rather pissed, and second two emails CCed to the bug, before I can respond | 00:20 |
| NCommander | So yeah | 00:20 |
| NCommander | I think I sunk my chances at becoming a DD | 00:20 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: well, I am never going to become an ubuntu core dev either | 00:42 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, ouch, why? | 00:42 |
| apachelogger | I guess there is always the option to go seek shelter at suse's or fedora's :P | 00:42 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: because i am not responsible enough I guess | 00:43 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: did I tell you that one could rewrite REVU almost only using ruby rails' automagic generation script? ;-) | 00:44 |
| NCommander | .................. | 00:45 |
| apachelogger | seriuosly, you can scaffold the overview page, so you would only need to add the seperate views for updated and archived and then you can scaffold the upload page | 00:46 |
| apachelogger | do some theming and you are done :P | 00:46 |
| vorian | eveing!i!i! | 00:50 |
| vorian | n | 00:50 |
| apachelogger | hey vorian | 00:53 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Would you please look at Bug 271935 and work out with pitti what the right answer is. I'm leaving town for a week in about 8 hours and will be totally offline. | 00:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 271935 in kde4bindings "kurllabel missing in python-kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271935 | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: sure | 00:57 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Thanks. | 00:57 |
| === NCommander is now known as MAC | ||
| === MAC is now known as NCommander | ||
| === ScottK is now known as ScottK-vacation | ||
| yuriy | kde4 on a new glossy 24" lcd is gorgeous | 06:17 |
| jussi01 | yuriy: oh shush you... :P | 07:37 |
| knome | i'm soon going to buy 2x24" | 07:38 |
| === cmvo_ is now known as cmvo | ||
| === m-onkey is now known as emonkey | ||
| Tonio_ | hi there | 09:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: do we have packages available for this ? | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Partition+Manager?content=89595&PHPSESSID=a50d9320fd2b30851a4612678b10b489 | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's a must have I guess ;) | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: even though a kcm module would be better (I'll ping upstream about that) | 09:45 |
| seaLne | looks nice | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: it is, and kde misses this kind of tools for years | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: I'll probably put a package on revu in a moment, but that's way too late for intrepid | 11:01 |
| Riddell | trouble with that sort of app is testing it is hard, needs a virtual machine I guess | 11:03 |
| seaLne | on a dev machine you don't care about | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: true that | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: also an external drive can help | 11:14 |
| knome | or large enoughusb stick :P | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: also, is there any reason we let the kgrubeditor standalone desktop file so that it ends up in the menu ? | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: should be removed I guess no ? | 11:22 |
| Riddell | can be yes | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: uploading with a fix :) | 11:36 |
| === davmor2 is now known as davmor2-away | ||
| stdin | hmm, kopete-cryptography is still pending in the new queue after 5 days | 12:18 |
| Riddell | this is what happens when I'm away on my archive admin day :) | 12:23 |
| Riddell | stdin: Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} should it depend on kopete? | 12:26 |
| * Riddell accepts | 12:26 | |
| stdin | Riddell: shlibs apparently adds kopete anyway: Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.1.1), kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.1+really4.1.1), kdepimlibs5 (>= 4:4.1.1), kopete, libc6 (>= 2.1.3), libkleo4, libqtcore4 (>= 4.4.1), libqtgui4 (>= 4.4.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1) | 12:27 |
| Riddell | that's clever of it | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | kde rev 862623 | 13:22 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=862623&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 862623 | 13:22 |
| Riddell | ViewVCException: 404 Not Found: Invalid revision | 13:22 |
| rgreening | hey | 13:29 |
| Riddell | morning rgreening, did you loko at qt 4.4.2? | 13:31 |
| Riddell | loko | 13:31 |
| Riddell | hmm | 13:31 |
| rgreening | Riddell: Yes and no... I started (picked it up again now) last night. I had a look at the configure and saw no differences. I was able to cpy/update the debian dir and debuild -S it. So, just gotta actually build it. | 13:32 |
| rgreening | Riddell: that's gonna start now | 13:32 |
| rgreening | Riddell: so, hopefully not to long to buld/test/debdiff for ya | 13:33 |
| * rgreening thinks I'm eventually going to need to upload deb on my own.... :P | 13:34 | |
| Riddell | not long? I think you're underestimating how large Qt is :) | 13:35 |
| knome | Riddell, if he is awfully talented? | 13:35 |
| Riddell | or has a build cluster | 13:36 |
| rgreening | Riddell: lol. It's been a while since Gentoo, but I remember Qt taking some time to build... let's see what happens on my system | 13:37 |
| rgreening | no cluster... though I could easily enough I guess... hehe | 13:38 |
| rgreening | Riddell: did you have a chance to look at the qtjambi stuff I sent? | 13:39 |
| Riddell | rgreening: not yet I'm afraid | 13:39 |
| rgreening | Riddell: k. I'll work on making the "proper" control file. That's still not done. The rules file is mostly complete. Made some notes in it. | 13:40 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I think phonon may simply be out for the time being. Unless you can make it play nice with KDE phonon_gstreamer and libphonon (or libphononexperimental) | 13:41 |
| Riddell | yeah, fair enough | 13:43 |
| rgreening | Riddell: Which is the "correct qt src archive". I had assumed it was qt-x11-opensource-src. However, I extracted the one from 4.4.1 we use and the dir was qt-all-opensource-src. Does it make a difference? | 13:43 |
| Riddell | I can never remember | 13:44 |
| Riddell | copy what debian do :) | 13:44 |
| rgreening | hmm... | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: you are packaging qt 4.4.2? | 13:49 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: gonna give it a shot. Looks like it should be straight forward. | 13:49 |
| rgreening | :) | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: you shoudl merge the packaging with debian ;-) | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | or poke me when you are done, so that I do the merge | 13:50 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: ? what do you mean? | 13:50 |
| Riddell | that's not a requirement post merge freeze | 13:50 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: I'll poke you and riddell... :) np | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: Scott reminded us that the later we remerge with debian the more work it's gonna be | 13:50 |
| rgreening | let you both duke it out | 13:51 |
| * apachelogger points out that the kjava thing is buggy | 13:51 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: the more often we merge with debian without a paticular reason the more work it's going to be and the more chance of introducing bugs :) | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | also true | 13:52 |
| * apachelogger needs an own opinion on merges | 13:52 | |
| rgreening | *opinions for sale* *get them while they're hot* | 13:53 |
| * Hobbsee steals all the opinions, and runs away with them | 13:53 | |
| * rgreening has secretly added dye packs to the opinions *splat* | 13:54 | |
| apachelogger | Oo | 13:54 |
| * Hobbsee puts the opinions in the freezer, freezes them, and removes the dye packs. | 13:54 | |
| Hobbsee | thwarted! | 13:54 |
| rgreening | lol | 13:54 |
| rgreening | you've done this before I see | 13:55 |
| * Hobbsee attacks rgreening with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ for trying. | 13:55 | |
| Hobbsee | no, i haven't - but I work in retail, and people tell me these things. | 13:55 |
| rgreening | *duck* | 13:55 |
| rgreening | hehe | 13:55 |
| Hobbsee | OTOH, I *have* disabled the security for dvds with a butter knife. | 13:55 |
| rgreening | lol | 13:55 |
| Hobbsee | (without breaking the case) | 13:55 |
| * rgreening shouts *REBEL* | 13:56 | |
| === davmor2-away is now known as davmor2 | ||
| Hobbsee | it was bought from our compeditors, i was at a friends place, and they were shut for the night. | 13:56 |
| Hobbsee | and we wanted to watch the movie. | 13:56 |
| Hobbsee | whta can you do? | 13:56 |
| Hobbsee | (and don't say "attempt to open it. fail. then bitch at the customer service person the next day, as they can't open it, because you broke the lock system) | 13:57 |
| Hobbsee | er, s/you/they/ | 13:59 |
| Hobbsee | er #2: incorrect replacement. it is you. | 13:59 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 13:59 |
| echidnaman | Riddell: well, we seemed to have merged with debian for the qt4 backports to the KDE4 ppa (Debian ver is higher than current Debian ver in Intrepid) | 14:02 |
| === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| * JontheEchidna thinks there's a bug about that | 14:03 | |
| apachelogger | true | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/debdiffs/ubuntu-restricted-extras_19_to_20.diff | 14:17 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: groovy | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: we will have to add java settings to default-settings because of kde bug 171333 | 14:18 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 171333 in general "[konqueror] java executable not found out of the box" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171333 | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | considering I find the branch ;-) | 14:18 |
| * txwikinger whishes a good morning from Canada | 14:18 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: uploaded. ok | 14:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: thank you :) | 14:19 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: say hello to the Canadians | 14:20 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I will do | 14:20 |
| rgreening | go Canada! | 14:20 |
| rgreening | :) | 14:20 |
| txwikinger | Do you know if we have any Kubuntu promotion going on the Linuxfest in Toronto? | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: nothing official so far | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: feel free to organize something ;-) | 14:21 |
| txwikinger | Well, I already give a presentation | 14:21 |
| rgreening | with pbuilder, how do I get it to install the required deps in the pbuilder env | 14:22 |
| txwikinger | Some guys from the LUG here asked me for T-shirts | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: it does automagically | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: considering you have the necessary deps in debian/control | 14:23 |
| rgreening | oh... hmmm... let me try again. maybe did somethnig wrong | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: we don't exactly have shirts yet | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: we are trying to get some though ... featuring a possible new slogan | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: did you debuild the source package? and did you try pbuilding the right dsc file? | 14:24 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why branching kubuntu-default-settings takes that long | 14:24 | |
| rgreening | apachelogger: I did it wrong last night. Got it working now. Thanks. | 14:26 |
| Riddell | we did have t-shirts, they sold out | 14:29 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: who's we? | 14:29 |
| rgreening | KDW: cmake'ing things better | 14:29 |
| rgreening | s/KDW/KDE | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the marketing doods ;-) | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | did you actually read the marketing meeting minutes? | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: that is normal behaviour | 14:31 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: what is? | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: kdelibs-data contains crystalsvg, as does kdeartwork-theme-icon I think | 14:31 |
| Nightrose | ah that one | 14:31 |
| Nightrose | ok | 14:31 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: nope | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | so they conflict, making amarok uninstallable if the latter is installed | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, it mostly was that we need a real slogan and we might want to do a community competition to find a good one | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | the winner gets a t-shirt with the slogan and the logo | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | which could be offered by canonical in the merch shop | 14:33 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: sounds interesting. does anyone in canonical know about it? | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ryanakca said he is going to ask | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: we could probably drop crystalsvg from kdeartwork-theme-icon | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | probably makes sense | 14:35 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: well however it is going to be done I think it would be good to allow to have both installed at the same time | 14:36 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: When do I have those shirts here? | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: 6 months | 14:36 |
| txwikinger | Too late | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: we don't even have a slogan yet | 14:37 |
| txwikinger | Linuxfest is in October | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | nah, no way we are going to make that | 14:37 |
| txwikinger | well.. shall I sell ubuntu shirts instead? | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: please move the bug to kdeartwork and assign it to me, I will take a look | 14:37 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: alright | 14:37 |
| Nightrose | thanks | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: that is damage promotion :P | 14:38 |
| txwikinger | Well.. people here want something ;p | 14:38 |
| txwikinger | What is the problem with the wiki? | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: you could become 24/7 artist and do kubuntu paintings | 14:40 |
| txwikinger | I can't login | 14:40 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: I ain't no artist | 14:40 |
| txwikinger | yesterday someone wanted to make a salesperson out of me, today an artist | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=3013 | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | ubuntu - ubuntu | 14:41 |
| txwikinger | Is it against the Human Rights Act to be forced to use FF? | 14:44 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: you're in Canada. Your Human Rights are controlled by the US now. | 14:46 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: No... they have a Charter of Rights here too | 14:46 |
| Riddell | see, you've lost your sense of irony already :) | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | lol | 14:47 |
| txwikinger | ROFL | 14:51 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I still have to regain it.. after such a long time in England ;p | 14:52 |
| rgreening | Cacada is going to buy the states after all the banks devalue the property there | 14:53 |
| rgreening | s/Cacada/Canada | 14:53 |
| rgreening | Then sell it on e-bay | 14:53 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: latest kubuntu-default-settings ships 3 bug fixes | 14:54 |
| Riddell | ships? | 14:55 |
| txwikinger | rgreening: Right, the Can-$ is already pair to the US-$ | 14:55 |
| rgreening | :) | 14:56 |
| JontheEchidna | now we have the monopoly moneh | 14:56 |
| rgreening | Riddell: to temp remove a patch, I can simply remove it from the series file without deleting if from the patches dir (correct)? | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: includes, holds, well, it would be fixing 3 bugs if you were uploading it ;-) | 14:56 |
| Riddell | rgreening: yes | 14:56 |
| rgreening | kk | 14:57 |
| Riddell | rgreening: make sure it's unapplied before you do | 14:57 |
| rgreening | ok | 14:57 |
| NCommander | morning Riddell | 14:59 |
| Riddell | hi NCommander | 15:00 |
| NCommander | how goes it? | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: oh, btw,4.4.2 > 4.4.1, so we wouldn't really need to merge at all | 15:01 |
| JontheEchidna | true | 15:01 |
| Riddell | NCommander: ok, battling with NM again | 15:04 |
| NCommander | New Maintainer? | 15:05 |
| rgreening | I feel like the guy in the Duncan Donuts commercials... "time to cmake qt". build, patch fail. Remove patch. Build... :) | 15:05 |
| Riddell | network-manager | 15:05 |
| * rgreening hates k-n-m at the moment. | 15:06 | |
| txwikinger | Well.. I am fixing to become more Canadian and get a local driver's licence... Have fun guys! | 15:06 |
| rgreening | gl | 15:07 |
| txwikinger | rgreening: Thanks.. need it with my Amp | 15:07 |
| txwikinger | rgreening: Thanks.. need it with my Amblyopia | 15:07 |
| * rgreening searches wp: | 15:07 | |
| rgreening | wow.. never knew lazy eye had a real medical term/condition. learn something new everyday. | 15:08 |
| txwikinger | Well.. lazy eye is not a correct description anyway :D | 15:09 |
| rgreening | I know... :) | 15:09 |
| txwikinger | later | 15:09 |
| rgreening | I have a lazy something else | 15:09 |
| rgreening | :) | 15:09 |
| rgreening | l*r | 15:09 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: Where is the Kubuntu alpha 6 announcement? | 15:15 |
| Riddell | davmor2: somewhere on my todo list | 15:17 |
| davmor2 | Not at the top ;) | 15:18 |
| rgreening | anyone else have issues with gpg signing periodically? sometimes when I enter the passphrase it fails. | 15:19 |
| * apachelogger thinks davmor2 wants to write the announcement ;-) | 15:20 | |
| * davmor2 slaps apachelogger hard for having a death wish ;) | 15:21 | |
| apachelogger | we certainly need a new text producer dood | 15:21 |
| * jussi01 thinks davmor2 rocks!!! (and thanks for doing the studio testing :D ) | 15:37 | |
| * davmor2 is just gladd someone else I think sbeattie did the xubuntu alt i386 tests so I had time too :) | 15:38 | |
| rgreening | Riddell: ok, so I spoke too soon on the qt build. HAHA. Didn't realize the significant # of patches that there are. Going through them to verify is going to take a bit longer. | 15:41 |
| Riddell | rgreening: most of the patches are from qt-copy, you may well find they've been updated or removed from svn http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/qt-copy/patches/ | 15:45 |
| rgreening | yeah. found two so far. | 15:46 |
| rgreening | Riddell: 10_config_tests_fixes.diff - last hunk fails - appears unnecessary - should I rename patch or simply correct and keep same name? | 16:23 |
| rgreening | Riddell: think I'll rename -r2.diff | 16:25 |
| Riddell | rgreening: just keep the same name | 16:30 |
| rgreening | ok | 16:30 |
| rgreening | Riddell: been able to elim 5 or so patches | 16:31 |
| Riddell | rgreening: all applied upstream? | 16:32 |
| rgreening | yep | 16:32 |
| === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander | ||
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: ping | 16:52 |
| seele | pong | 16:52 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: hows it going? | 16:53 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: good | 16:53 |
| Artemis_Fowl | but I have no time at all | 16:53 |
| seele | school? | 16:54 |
| Artemis_Fowl | yes | 16:54 |
| Artemis_Fowl | so I was thinking of just releasing a new version just for the bugfixes | 16:54 |
| seele | ok, sounds good | 16:54 |
| Artemis_Fowl | since I have no time to do any more improvemenets | 16:54 |
| seele | i dont know if features could get added at this time anyway | 16:54 |
| Artemis_Fowl | I think it would require a feature exception but since it contains only bugfixes it will be ok | 16:55 |
| seele | ok cool | 16:55 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: btw have you thought of a new password-workflow? | 16:58 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: no, i havent had time to work on much kde stuff this week because of work | 17:04 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ok, so now I've checked the patches, I can finally start building qt.. lol. Any estimate on time to quild it on a 1.67Hz celeron with 2Gig RAM? | 17:16 |
| Riddell | couple of hours? | 17:17 |
| rgreening | ok, sweet. I'll let you know how it goes then | 17:17 |
| rgreening | building now | 17:18 |
| jussi01 | hrm, just installed qt4-designer from the members ppa fro hardy... cant get it to start. anyone seen this? | 17:23 |
| stdin | I'm running designer now, so no :) | 17:23 |
| jussi01 | ohh.. it segfaults... | 17:24 |
| jussi01 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/48341/ | 17:25 |
| stdin | I get all that, except the segfault | 17:26 |
| jussi01 | hrm | 17:26 |
| stdin | see what gdb has to say? | 17:27 |
| jussi01 | ok, dont laugh, but please tell me how to use gdb... | 17:27 |
| stdin | I thought you may as ;) | 17:27 |
| stdin | run "gdb designer" to start | 17:28 |
| stdin | then type "run" to get designer starting, it should then segfault somewhere, type "bt" to get a backtrace | 17:28 |
| stdin | then "c" then "q" to finally exit gdb | 17:28 |
| jussi01 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/48343/ | 17:29 |
| stdin | jussi01: what does "dpkg -l | grep qt4" show? | 17:31 |
| jussi01 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/48344/ | 17:32 |
| stdin | well, doesn't look like an installation issue | 17:32 |
| jussi01 | hrm | 17:32 |
| jussi01 | the only really non standard thing here is I have fglrx from envy... | 17:33 |
| jussi01 | (although I wish I knew how to revert) | 17:33 |
| stdin | jussi01: what's the md5sum of /usr/lib/libQtDesignerComponents.so.4.4.1? could be a bad download | 17:34 |
| stdin | 76fa42e5fb25c082724ad076f8a26e8c /usr/lib/libQtDesignerComponents.so.4.4.1 | 17:34 |
| jussi01 | 76fa42e5fb25c082724ad076f8a26e8c /usr/lib/libQtDesignerComponents.so.4.4.1 | 17:34 |
| jussi01 | nope | 17:34 |
| stdin | have you tried the "windows fix" yet? | 17:35 |
| jussi01 | no? | 17:35 |
| jussi01 | which is? | 17:35 |
| jussi01 | restart? | 17:36 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 17:36 |
| stdin | yeah :p or just logout/in | 17:36 |
| jussi01 | brb | 17:36 |
| stdin | I've (had to) reboot since the update | 17:36 |
| stdin | so I don't know if that has anything to do with it | 17:36 |
| jussi01 | stdin: nope. still broken. weird | 17:42 |
| jussi01 | is it possible its missing a dep? | 17:44 |
| stdin | the only things I have that you don't are "qt4-dev-tools" and "qt4-doc" | 17:48 |
| stdin | oh, and libqt4-dbg | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: do you have firefox installed? | 18:54 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: yes | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: hardy? | 18:55 |
| jussi01 | yes | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: please try http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17764996/mozilla-plugin-plasma_0.1~git20080918-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa3_i386.deb | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | you should be able to test it if you access /usr/share/doc/mozilla-plugin-plasma/examples/plasma.html in firefox | 18:56 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: that gives me "plasma!!!!" and a plugin install thing, which finds no plugins | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: did you restart firefox? | 19:01 |
| jussi01 | yes | 19:07 |
| jussi01 | (not the first time, but when I tried again same thing) | 19:07 |
| stdin | apachelogger: ^ same for me | 19:08 |
| stdin | and about:plugins doesn't show it | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | fun | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | well | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | it probably wouldn't work anyway | 19:08 |
| * apachelogger senses 4.2 dependency | 19:08 | |
| jussi01 | doh!! | 19:09 |
| rgreening | 4.4.2 on the way soonish | 19:10 |
| rgreening | doh.. nm | 19:10 |
| rgreening | I was thinking Qt and not KDE | 19:10 |
| rgreening | lol | 19:10 |
| rgreening | Anyone got a KDE4.2 PPA started for pre-release? | 19:11 |
| Tm_T | I'm on 4.2 world already, iu | 19:11 |
| rgreening | got debs or SVN? | 19:11 |
| Tm_T | I build daily from svn | 19:11 |
| rgreening | cool | 19:12 |
| rgreening | adventurous | 19:12 |
| rgreening | :) | 19:12 |
| Tm_T | not really (:) | 19:12 |
| DreadKnight | how the heck do i install deb files in kubuntu kde4 mix ? | 19:12 |
| goatsocks | dpkg -i | 19:12 |
| Tm_T | wajig install /path/to/package ? | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | !neon | rgreening | 19:14 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about neon | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | uh | 19:14 |
| Tm_T | aww | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | oh | 19:14 |
| rgreening | lol | 19:14 |
| Tm_T | son, fix it | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | no | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | no time | 19:14 |
| * apachelogger gotta investigate something | 19:14 | |
| DreadKnight | how stupid.. deb files opened with the useless ark-kde4 | 19:15 |
| DreadKnight | had to manually install gdebi-kde4 | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel ;-) | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | DreadKnight: intrepid? | 19:15 |
| DreadKnight | apachelogger: kde4 mix hardy | 19:16 |
| DreadKnight | can't even manage to install intrepid... | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | I am pretty sure we had gdebi-kde4 in the cd seed | 19:16 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: nice work!! | 19:16 |
| * apachelogger reads createTar() started with component: amarok-nightly-qt | 19:16 | |
| DreadKnight | apachelogger: did an apt-cache search and there is not even gdebi-kde4 there btw | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | !package gdebi-kde4 | 19:17 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:17 |
| DreadKnight | gdebi, gdebi-core and gdebi-kde | 19:17 |
| stdin | you want !info probably | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | !info gdebi-kde4 | 19:17 |
| ubottu | Package gdebi-kde4 does not exist in hardy | 19:17 |
| DreadKnight | xD | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | stdin: alias that | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | DreadKnight: oh | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | right | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | there is no such package | 19:18 |
| DreadKnight | and gdebi-kde is damn slow on one of my boxes... eats the crap out of the cpu | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | gdebi is used, and that is pretty much in the cd seed | 19:18 |
| DreadKnight | perhaps a bug; gdebi (on gnome) is a breeze | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | perhaps | 19:18 |
| DreadKnight | apachelogger: backport gdebi-kde4 to hardy? ^^ | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | there is no gdebi-kde4 in intrepid either | 19:19 |
| DreadKnight | erm | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | jussi01, JontheEchidna, stdin: suggestions about what I could be blogging? | 19:20 |
| DreadKnight | also, bought a tablet pc recently... and the out of the box config for tablet pc's plain sucks; could be improved dramatically with few changes; plenty of similar how-to's on the net in order to hack your way.. like wtf... | 19:20 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: about quassel of course :D | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | DreadKnight: you could buy me one as well, then I would probably make it behave smoother | 19:22 |
| DreadKnight | apachelogger: i have suggestions on how the experience can be improved; could buy you a beer :-) | 19:23 |
| * apachelogger can't really do anything without such a device :P | 19:23 | |
| rgreening | I'm getting a Pandora | 19:24 |
| DreadKnight | even if wacom-tools are installed; the devices are not added to xorg.conf | 19:24 |
| rgreening | Ubuntu is going on it | 19:24 |
| DreadKnight | and there is a bug, when rotating screen with krandrtray doesn't rotates the coordonates maping for the stylus | 19:25 |
| DreadKnight | also creating a right-click for the stylus using the button or mapping the hardware keys by having some handy application around; manage to map the button to right click using a start-up bashbin script i recall, but didn't had enough pacience to map keys | 19:27 |
| * rgreening patiently waiting for Qt4.4.2 to finish building.... | 19:30 | |
| digistyl3 | hi guys, i just bought a dell studio 15 and i'm running intrepid on it | 19:56 |
| digistyl3 | how can i check if it has excesive load/unload cycles? | 19:56 |
| smarter | digistyl3: uptime? | 19:58 |
| smarter | If i correctly understand your question | 19:58 |
| smarter | it shows the system load for the past 1, 5 and 15 minutes | 19:59 |
| digistyl3 | smarter: uptime 9 miutes | 20:00 |
| astraljava | I thought it was about the hard drive aggressive unload cycling for maximum power saving. :) | 20:01 |
| digistyl3 | load average 0.01, 0.23, 0.20 | 20:01 |
| digistyl3 | smarter: should i use this guide for intrepid? | 20:02 |
| digistyl3 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement#How to get disks idleing correctly (without excessive load cycling) | 20:02 |
| astraljava | So it was about it after all. | 20:03 |
| astraljava | From that page:"Current state in intrepid (ubuntu 8.10) is..." | 20:05 |
| digistyl3 | http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Known_issues#How_to_determine_whether_a_machine_has_this_problem | 20:07 |
| digistyl3 | i need to install smartmontools on the laptop | 20:07 |
| digistyl3 | i'll brb, because i have to plug in the network cable | 20:07 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: bugs maybe? We could always use help there | 20:16 |
| JontheEchidna | and Suse is calling for volunteers for a bug triage soon | 20:16 |
| JontheEchidna | ubottu: tell me about kde revision 862734 | 20:17 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 20:17 |
| JontheEchidna | kde revision 862734 | 20:17 |
| JontheEchidna | kde rev 862734 | 20:17 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=862734&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 862734 | 20:17 |
| JontheEchidna | dumb bot | 20:17 |
| DreadKnight | sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't works for me | 20:25 |
| DreadKnight | every kde editor i try, evem with kdesu | 20:25 |
| DreadKnight | don't want to use vim ffs | 20:25 |
| JontheEchidna | in hardy? | 20:25 |
| DreadKnight | yeah | 20:25 |
| DreadKnight | kde4 mix | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | kdesudo /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | sudo/kdesudo etc doesn't play nice with the custom path for kde4 binaries | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | it's an issue in Intrepid | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | *isn't | 20:26 |
| DreadKnight | i see | 20:26 |
| DreadKnight | think it's going to work; thanks xD | 20:27 |
| DreadKnight | worked with kdesu | 20:28 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ok, so a few hours later and the build fails in the debian/ruls | 20:28 |
| rgreening | Riddell: cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/include/qt4/Qt/qatomic_windows.h': No such file or directory | 20:28 |
| rgreening | dang | 20:28 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: remove that file from the -dev package's .install file and debuild -nc | 20:29 |
| JontheEchidna | (-nc is no clean) | 20:30 |
| rgreening | debuild? | 20:30 |
| JontheEchidna | isn't that how you're building the package? | 20:30 |
| rgreening | no, pbuilder | 20:30 |
| rgreening | can I do same with pbuilder | 20:30 |
| JontheEchidna | uh yeah, if you had some scripts | 20:31 |
| rgreening | to continue | 20:31 |
| rgreening | this was what I ran: sudo pbuilder --build qt4-x11_4.4.2-0ubuntu1.dsc | 20:31 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: you need to pimp out your pbuilder hookers | 20:31 |
| rgreening | lol | 20:31 |
| rgreening | I just started using pbuilder today | 20:32 |
| rgreening | haha | 20:32 |
| * rgreening man pbuilder | 20:32 | |
| goatsocks | i think it's in the pbuilder guide, not sure about the manpage | 20:32 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, apachelogger has several handy hooks for things like this | 20:32 |
| goatsocks | i recall it was fairly simple to set up | 20:32 |
| JontheEchidna | like, it will dump you to the chroot's console if the build fails | 20:32 |
| rgreening | yeah.. cause this took 2.5 hours to crap out. | 20:32 |
| JontheEchidna | so you can modify stuff without having to do everything again | 20:33 |
| rgreening | and I really don't want to have to wait 2.5 more | 20:33 |
| goatsocks | rgreening: you need extra iron | 20:33 |
| rgreening | oh no..... | 20:33 |
| * rgreening crys | 20:33 | |
| * goatsocks hands rgreening a vitamin | 20:33 | |
| rgreening | -> removing directory /var/cache/pbuilder/build//6999 and its subdirectories | 20:33 |
| rgreening | grrrr | 20:33 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, too late now :( | 20:34 |
| * rgreening bangs head against brick wall | 20:34 | |
| rgreening | *rinse*repeat* | 20:34 |
| rgreening | dam | 20:34 |
| rgreening | I guess I should have run --login instead... | 20:35 |
| rgreening | so, in pbuilder in the login env, do I run debuild in there? | 20:37 |
| rgreening | Riddell: around? | 20:53 |
| rgreening | Riddell: some of the header files have changed and the .install files need updating. How did you gen the file list? I want to verify b4 I spend another couple of hours re-building | 20:56 |
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| * rgreening rebuilding qt again... doh | 21:29 | |
| digistyl3 | does anyone use pppoe on their internet? | 21:30 |
| digistyl3 | i've configured my network with pppoeconf | 21:30 |
| digistyl3 | but network manager sais i'm not connected to the internet | 21:31 |
| digistyl3 | and firefox starts in offline mode | 21:31 |
| digistyl3 | pidgin too | 21:31 |
| digistyl3 | it's so annoying :| | 21:31 |
| goatsocks | digistyl3: this is a dev channel, #kubuntu for support ;) | 21:59 |
| digistyl3 | well it's in the development release | 22:01 |
| goatsocks | digistyl3: this isn't exactly end user support for dev releases either, more for discussion of development, not use ;) | 22:04 |
| digistyl3 | goatsocks: ok, clear :) | 22:05 |
| goatsocks | digistyl3: however, if there's a bug in intrepid's pppoe then this is definitely the place to talk about it ;) | 22:05 |
| digistyl3 | goatsocks: i think this is a networkmanager bug, because it doesn't recognize the pppoe connection | 22:07 |
| digistyl3 | and other programs rely on networkmanager for network status information, like pidgin and firefox | 22:08 |
| goatsocks | digistyl3: i didn't think ppoe was finished in nm, you might wanna search launchpad on that | 22:11 |
| digistyl3 | i'll brb | 22:20 |
| digistyl3 | goatsocks: is this the blueprint for that? | 23:31 |
| digistyl3 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/network-manager-pptp | 23:31 |
| digistyl3 | i see it's not implemented :| | 23:31 |
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