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ubuntu_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/WDDisk -o force00:00
ubuntu_$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)00:00
ubuntu_WARNING: Forced mount, reset $LogFile.00:00
ubuntu_fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/WDDisk: No such file or directory00:00
ubuntu_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$00:00
ubuntu_eeh00:00
jerry_it pulled up to dolphins00:00
qwerdyLeeJunFan: I added the windows' ip to the linux's route table, and I gave "1.2.3.4" to the linux's secondary ip, and added it to the windows' route00:00
qwerdynow "\\1.2.3.4" works from the windows!00:00
mnubuntu_ | paste00:00
favrojerry_: so no errors?00:00
jerry_ok so it still says it couldnt pull up file system in root media stuff00:01
ubuntu_help mee out here00:01
jerry_it does tell me how much free space i have00:01
ubuntu_i did get it by my self00:01
jerry_but ill try copying something into it00:01
favrojerry_: k00:01
qwerdyLeeJunFan: yep, and I can copy files.. (I wonder how secure it is...)00:01
jerry_nope cant write stuff00:02
jerry_to it00:02
_2ubuntu_ sudo mkdir -p /media/WDDisk00:02
ubuntu_i did get it thanks00:02
LeeJunFanwell, as long as the traceroute shows IP traffic not going over the GW it should be good.00:02
_2ubuntu_ then try your command00:02
nonewmsgs<nonewmsgs> kmail is pissing me off.  all in a sudden it isn't using kwallet.  i don't know why.  kwalet is still working with other password00:02
favrojerry_: gives a permission error?00:02
jerry_um yeah ill see what it says exactly one sec00:02
ubuntu_wine dont open my game00:03
ubuntu_hmm00:03
jerry_acess denied could not write to /media/stuff/dogpilebar.exe00:03
ubuntu_its work mohahahaha00:03
favrojerry_: ok the filesystem error seems harmless? - maybe00:03
jerry_well does that mean i cant write to it00:04
LeeJunFannonewmsgs: in kwallet wallet manager try settings, configure wallet, access control, and make sure kmail is allowed to use the wallet.00:04
jerry_?00:04
qwerdyLeeJunFan: hmm.. if the linux's route is not necessary, I could do it without worrying when the window's gets a new ip00:04
favrojerry_: sudo umount -v /dev/sdb1 && sudo chown -Rv jerry:jerry /media/stuff00:04
_2ubuntu_ in linux "error" and "warning" messages are pretty streight forward.    also error or E: generally means "it failed and here is why"   while warning or W: generally means "it succeeded, but you may have trouble with it or something related to it; and here is why"00:04
nonewmsgsLeeJunFan, kwallet has kmail under always allow00:04
favrojerry_: then sudo umount -av again00:04
favrojerry_:  sudo chown -Rv jerry:jerry /media/stuff - jerry is your login name00:05
ubuntu_my game lags in wine00:05
_2!winehq00:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about winehq00:05
_2!wine00:06
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.00:06
qwerdyLeeJunFan: nope.. it cann't even ping 1.2.3.400:06
LeeJunFanqwerdy: it might work with only one having the route set. When linux accesses windows the first time it will go over the internet for the syn packet, the windows machine having a route for the linux machine on the LAN will send the linux IP an ICMP redirect telling linux it can reach it directly.00:06
LeeJunFanhrm, owell.00:07
jerry_ok then mount everthing again00:07
LeeJunFanmaybe windows doesn't send ICMP redirects? might want to check your firewall settings.00:07
jerry_?00:07
LeeJunFanqwerdy: make sure icmp and redirects are allowed.00:07
_2i don't think anyone can   ping 1.2.3.400:07
favrojerry_: sudo umount -av again00:07
jerry_ok just did that now what?00:07
qwerdyLeeJunFan: I turned it off completely00:07
favrojerry_: it should be writable00:07
qwerdyLeeJunFan: (the firewall)00:08
jerry_do i need to mount it again?00:08
favrojerry_: and be mounted at bott every time00:08
favros/btt/boot00:08
favrobahhh00:08
qwerdyLeeJunFan: OK, I'll keep playing with it tommorow, it's too late over here. thanks a lot!00:08
LeeJunFanqwerdy: 1.2.3.4 you mean the real IP of your windows machine?00:08
LeeJunFanqwerdy: okay, later.00:09
qwerdyLeeJunFan: it's the secondary ip of the windows00:09
qwerdy(the one I configured myself)00:09
jerry_access denied00:09
jerry_this stinks00:09
ubuntu_wow dident lag in ubuntu but it does on kubuntu is that normal00:09
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dr_willisDepends.. are you using kde 4 oe 3 ?00:10
favrojerry_:  sudo chown -Rv jerry:jerry /media/stuff - gave a reply that the ownership was changed?00:10
ubuntu_how do i check that00:10
jerry_yes changed ownership of /media/stuff to jerry:jerry00:10
LeeJunFanqwerdy: I really think you should be able to do this w/o adding IP's to either machine. just route commands.00:11
_2favro you can't change ownership of things on M$ file systems00:11
dr_willisubuntu_,  look at wat you installed/disk you used. or use the ' about ' menu item00:11
_2just a note.00:11
favro_2: it is ext300:11
_2favro k00:11
favro_2: I gotta go jerry_ needs a hand - busy?00:12
_2favro if you can catch me up right quick.00:12
dr_willisubuntu_,  the live cd is not using the  best video card drivers..  you need to do a full install to get best speed00:12
jerry_i wont be on till later on tonight00:12
mnanyone here know how to make phi and psi in OO.o Formula editor?00:13
favro_2frsh format - mounting in fstab /dev/sdb1 /media/stuff - permission errors for write00:13
favro_2: ^^00:13
_2favro k.00:13
favro_2: thnx :)00:13
jerry_how do i pull up kate and fstab?00:14
LeeJunFanfavro: that's what I was talking about earlier, it's an ext3 filesystem, make a directory on it and chown that dir so the normal user owns it.00:14
LeeJunFanthen he'll be able to write to that dir.00:14
_2jerry_ kdesudo kate /etc/fstab00:14
_2LeeJunFan or own or mod the root of the fs00:15
ign0ramusmn: http://tobeprinted.blogspot.com/2007/12/formula-editor-in-open-office-part-3.html00:15
LeeJunFanyeah, umask it maybe.00:15
_2no that's vfat/ntfs code00:15
mnign0ramus: Thnx!00:16
_2for real file systems   chown -r $USER /mountpoint      or  chmod -r 777 /mountpoint      will work   neither of those can be done on M$ filesystems so you have to use *mask= options on those00:16
_2note that even works on the running system    chmod 001 /     for example.00:17
_2that example hides the listings in the root dir but leaves the system usable00:18
_2note it will break a few apps that depend on reading /00:18
bleakedso a recent update has broken gtk2-engines-gtk-qt (or whatever it is) in the sense that none of my gtk apps are integrated into kde..it sucks, it's horribly slow and ugly.. there is no longer a config option in the Appearance & Themes section of kcontrol..00:19
nonewmsgsare there any good transcodders for mkv (hi def video) to something compatable with standard dvd format?00:19
jerry_favro what was the command to change ownership to me?00:20
LeeJunFan_2: okay, so from what I caught of their conversation then jerry_ just needs to chown his mountpoint and he should be good to go.00:20
_2"standard dvd format" == mpeg3   iirc00:20
_2LeeJunFan correct,   with the fs mounted.00:21
jerry_the only trouble is i can see everything but i cant access anything or write to it00:21
LeeJunFanjerry_: sudo chown jerry.jerry /media/stuff00:21
_2if the fs is umounted owning the mountpoint does nothing.00:21
nonewmsgs_2 iirc it's mp200:21
jerry_thanks00:21
_2nonewmsgs k  i can't argue the fact.00:21
nonewmsgs_2 regardless are there any aps to do that?00:22
_2!mencoder   ?00:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mencoder   ?00:22
jerry_I DID IT, IT FINALLY WORKS THANKS FAVRO :)00:23
_2!dvd00:23
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs00:23
jerry_WITHOUT YOU I WOULDNT HAVE THIS HARDDRIVE WORKING00:23
LeeJunFanjerry_: is this an internal or a USB drive?00:23
jerry_INTERNAL00:23
LeeJunFanokay, good. I would have suggested a different mounting method using UUID's had it been external - you're good to go.00:24
jerry_YAY its like christmas00:24
jerry_later everyone.00:24
LeeJunFanbye00:24
_2i would sujest another mountpoint for a permanant fs00:24
LeeJunFan_2: yeah, personally I would too.00:25
_2 /media is designed for removable and or spuraticly mounted00:25
_2 /media kinda replaced the standard /mnt00:26
_2it wasn't intended too.  but did.00:27
LeeJunFanman kde4 is missing a lot for being a .1.1 release.00:27
LeeJunFanno printer config, no power saving config to speak of.00:27
ServaHey, any database modelers here?00:28
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siriusyes00:29
bleakeddoes anyone else have issues with gtk styles in kde as of this weeks updates?00:29
_2LeeJunFan heh.  yeah i personally thought that they were about to get kde3 up to the point of "stable release"   so they have dropped it....00:29
LeeJunFan_2: yeah, stable is boring anyway. Unpredictability is exciting computing :)00:30
dr_willisthats why everyone loves MS!00:30
LeeJunFanI was about to say that.00:31
Servasirius, I have to model and develop a database for my course. Can you give me any recommendations about the topic that I should choose, so that I can learn something new about the domain and perhaps utilize it in my resume. I was thinking to learn about credit risk portfolio database modeling, but looking at the current financial crisis I dropped the idea.00:31
siriusmicroshaft!00:31
nonewmsgsthats not funny i know people who have MS :( poor saps00:31
LeeJunFanUntil you lose work becaue of it anyway, or your windows powered ATM cheats you.00:31
Servasirius, music library and banking system are too much overused.00:31
LeeJunFanare we talking about the software company or the disease?00:31
LeeJunFanhrm, they are both diseases I guess.00:32
nonewmsgsthe softwarecompany00:32
LeeJunFanWell, I run kde4 and compiz, my windows are so unstable they wobble.00:33
andreas_How do i change my resolution back to 1000x700 somthing? It's stuck at 600x400 after a x-restart.00:35
LeeJunFansirius: how about something for law enforcement? you could make a database of crimes with certain MO's and then you could run a search on a certain criteria and bring up all the crimes using that same MO, etc.00:35
LeeJunFanandreas_: all you did was restart X or did you change some configs?00:36
LeeJunFanandreas_: run 'xrandr -q' from konsole it will list all the modes available to you right now.00:36
andreas_LeeJunFan :  I installed dwm, then i restarted X...00:36
LeeJunFanhrm, I can't imagine that should make any difference to the configuration of X itself.00:37
Servasirius, can I pm you?00:37
andreas_LeeJunFan :  it only find one option;   640x480....00:37
LeeJunFanandreas_: okay, sounds like your x config got changed somewhere along the way.00:38
andreas_LeeJunFan :  yeah,   got a solution?00:39
LeeJunFanandreas_: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && sudo dpkg-reconfigur -p high xserver-xorg00:39
LeeJunFanandreas_: cut and paste the above into konsole.00:39
andreas_LeeJunFan :  dpkg-reconfigur: command not found00:39
LeeJunFanThat will make a backup of your xorg.conf, and if the backup is successful (&&) it will run the reconfigure, crap - I missed an e on the end of reconfigure00:40
andreas_hehe:p ok00:40
andreas_LeeJunFan :  done, now, all i do is restart X?00:41
LeeJunFanandreas_: yeah, if you log out to dm, then ctrl-alt-backspace that should do it.00:41
andreas_LeeJunFan :  i'm in KDE-thingy again no00:42
LeeJunFankde-thingy?00:42
andreas_nvm,    restart x now;D00:42
siriuswhats the best wysiwyg html editor for ubuntu?00:43
siriusany preferences?00:44
nonewmsgsfor anyone interested videotrans has a lot of neat scripts for doing this.  it requires the console, but once you read its man pages it rocks00:44
LeeJunFanpreference is not to use wysiwyg :) vi :)00:44
andreas_It worked;D    Thaks for the help LeeJunFan =)00:44
LeeJunFanI don't even know if there are any.00:44
LeeJunFanandreas_: you're welcome.00:44
siriusyea a coiple00:44
siriuscouple00:44
joshuajtlanyway to make the kicker have rounded corners?00:45
andreas_Any of you experts know a cool window manager i can experiment on?  Need to refresh my little laptop=p00:46
siriusim not that well versed in html yet  but im gettin there wysiwyg helps me a lil bit00:46
nonewmsgsicewm ?00:46
andreas_hmm00:47
andreas_i'll look it up,     Will i need a new taskbar and all that stuff as well?00:47
LeeJunFanjoshuajtl: no, you can gimp up a background for your desktop to give rouded corners look to kicker though.00:48
dr_willisicewm has its own panel.00:48
dr_willisicewm is 'decent' - a little annoying in ways under ubuntu. but useable00:48
andreas_ooh, sweet=)00:48
dr_willisI often use icewm + rox-filer for the desktop icons00:48
joshuajtlLeeJunFan: really? so like a png with rounded corners on transparent background?00:48
dr_willisOf course theres a dozen+ window managers you can play with00:48
LeeJunFanjoshuajtl: for example you would take your current background, edit it, to add the rounded corners you want to put on kicker into your background, then when it's all loaded up it would look like those additions to your background were actually part of kicker.00:50
andreas_Need a manager my "novice" ass can handle...     Wold like a "futuristic" look to my desktop, and cant realy find a theme for KDE that can do the job.00:50
joshuajtlLeeJunFan: not sure i get it, are there any examples?00:50
dr_willisandreas_,  you proberly havent looked very hard at the kde themes out there then. :)00:50
andreas_That maybe.00:51
joshuajtlis there kpager2 for kubuntu?00:51
dr_willisI tend to not worry about themes...00:51
dr_willis!find kpager00:51
ubottuFound: kpager00:51
dr_willisseems to be a kpager. but no 2 :)00:51
dr_willis!info kpager00:51
ubottukpager (source: kdebase): desktop pager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.3 (hardy), package size 135 kB, installed size 388 kB00:51
LeeJunFanjoshuajtl: I don't know of any. Just a suggestion I ran across. basically you edit the image of your current background, you add little kicker looking rounded ends to either side of where kicker sits. So where kicker's panel ends your image of rounded corners appears.00:51
andreas_Hehe:p  Want this comp to be the showoff_piece of my briliance:D00:52
joshuajtlLeeJunFan: oh you mean the wallpaper?00:52
LeeJunFanjoshuajtl: yeah. Or you could simply make kicker totally transparent, and create your own panel looking graphic on your wallpaper.00:52
joshuajtloh that sounds easier00:53
LeeJunFanI think kicker has an option to load a background, I don't know if it can handle a full size image or if it's just a paintbrush it uses to fill kicker.00:53
LeeJunFanI'm in kde4 now or I'd look.00:53
LeeJunFanactually I've got kcontrol still on here for printer config.00:54
_2isn't there a kde4 kcontrol too ?00:55
Schuenemannhow do I rip a DVD with k3b?00:55
dr_willisSchuenemann,  i tend to use k9copy to copy dvd's00:55
dr_willisor the dd command. :)00:55
LeeJunFan_2: there's a system config tool like the default kubuntu one, but no kcontrol for kde4 and there's a lot of things missing.00:55
Schuenemanndr_willis, I wanted to extract the video only, not copy to a different dvd00:55
dr_willisI think you want some other tool then k3b then.00:56
_2LeeJunFan heh   i'd say a lot missing.  kcontrol was the heart of kde  imo00:56
LeeJunFanconfiguring cups w/o kde's config sucks. So I keep kde3 printer config around.00:56
dr_willis!info dvdrip00:56
ubottudvdrip (source: dvdrip): perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.6-0.0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1086 kB, installed size 2580 kB00:56
Schuenemanndr_willis, but K3b has an option called "rip dvd". I think it *should* do that00:57
LeeJunFan_2: I agree, I disliked the fact that it was hidden in kubuntu.00:57
LeeJunFanin favor of the dumbed down control panel.00:57
Schuenemanndr_willis, can you test if that option works for you? at least if it does something?00:57
LeeJunFan!info k9copy00:57
ubottuk9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.3-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1517 kB, installed size 3056 kB00:57
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, I want to extract the video00:57
* _2 quotes his hero "default is only the starting point on the long road to right"00:58
LeeJunFank9copy can save to mpeg I believe.00:58
dr_willisSchuenemann,  check its help docs. ive never used it.  its proberly just calling  transcode like all the otehr tools do00:58
Schuenemanndr_willis, doesn't talk about it. I've found a few tutorials on the web, but they all link to broken pages =/00:58
LeeJunFanfrom there you can convert to anything with ffmpeg, you can rip with ffmpeg to anything too, but it's a pain to specify all the input vobs with ffmpeg on the command line, so I'd start with k9copy, then if you need it in AVI format or something use ffmpeg to convert it.00:59
dr_willisive used dvdrip befor - it wasent too hard to use either00:59
Schuenemannwhen I run k3b from terminal (to see possible output errors), the program opens and then the console is "unlocked"... why does that happen to this specific program?01:00
dr_willisthey spawn to the background releaseing the terminal, any error messages shouls still get printed to it however01:05
Schuenemannyou're right. There is no error when I select the rip option, though01:06
Schuenemannwell, I'm already downloading dvdrip01:07
LeeJunFancould try running k3b with option --nofork01:07
Schuenemanncool01:08
joshuajtlLeeJunFan: a lot easier than i would have suspected :) (rounded corners)01:08
Schuenemanndr_willis, wow, you call that easy? :p01:10
LeeJunFanjoshuajtl: how'd you end up doing it?01:14
joshuajtlLeeJunFan: just transparent kicker with a kicker image on my wallpaper01:15
LeeJunFanjoshuajtl: cool.01:15
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joshuajtlyeah i think ill add it to kde-look just incase folk want to know, i havent seen anything on there wihth this idea, ill give you credit01:17
LeeJunFancool. I can't believe I never thought of it before now I want to do it with mine, I'll have to see if I can edit the plasma config in kde4 to make my panel transparent as there's no config option for it.01:17
joshuajtlyeah01:18
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SchuenemannLeeJunFan, k9copy raises this error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/48189/01:20
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: is this an encrypted DVD?01:21
LeeJunFanprotected, whatever.01:22
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, well, it's an original DVD film. Does that mean yes?01:22
LeeJunFanyeah, have you installed libdvdread2 to play protected DVD's on linux?01:22
LeeJunFan!dvd01:23
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:23
LeeJunFanerr, libdvdcss2, sorry01:23
Schuenemanncan't find that package01:24
Schuenemannoh, nevermind01:24
Schuenemannsorry01:24
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, wait, is it in medibuntu for hardy too?01:24
LeeJunFanI think so.01:25
LeeJunFannot according to that factoid.01:25
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LeeJunFanSchuenemann: mine came from medibuntu, so I guess yes.01:25
LeeJunFan1.2.9-2medibuntu401:26
SchuenemannI already have libdvdread301:26
LeeJunFanyeah, it's libdvdcss2 that we really need for protected dvd's.01:26
Schuenemannisn't that for feisty and earlier? the wiki doesn't mention that package01:27
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: follow these instructions to get it: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html01:27
LeeJunFansince you already have libdvdread3, you should just have to run 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'01:28
Schuenemannyeah, was trying that. But the directory isn't examples/ anymore01:28
LeeJunFanbiab01:30
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, now it went through... and crashed with that KDE exception handler windows01:30
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: hrm, not sure what that means.01:37
LeeJunFanI use it all the time.01:37
SchuenemannSorry, this file format is not recognized/supported01:39
Schuenemannthis sucks01:39
LeeJunFanhrm, that's odd. Did you close k9copy and restart it?01:40
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Schuenemannonly a hundred times :p01:40
LeeJunFanhehe, well, it sounds like that's in the encoding part of the process. I'm not sure what k3b uses to encode.01:40
LeeJunFanerr, k9copy01:41
Schuenemannk3b or k9copy?01:41
vbgunzI do not have "GTK Styles and Fonts" in 8.04 ... This is a brand new installation, am I supposed to install something?01:42
Schuenemannit does sound like it's the enconding part, since the film can be previewed inside k9copy01:42
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LeeJunFanSchuenemann: it uses mencoder, and it's a dependency of k9copy so I'd assume you must already have mencoder on your system.01:43
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LeeJunFanvbgunz: gtk-qt-engine01:43
Schuenemannyeah, I do01:43
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: what file format were you trying to save to?01:44
Schuenemannmp401:44
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: out of curiosity I wonder if another format would work?01:45
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, shouldn't I change mencoder's video codec? It's set as 'copy'01:45
vbgunzgtk-qt-engine is already the newest version ... I did install the kubuntu-kde4-desktop package... did it steal my app?01:46
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: maybe, I don't know if those are settings as to what it's going to use, or just a way to configure cmd line options for different ones.01:46
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, I changed to xvid and no error was outputted. There is a time counter going on and the dvd is being read, although the progress bar hasn't moved so far01:46
LeeJunFanvbgunz: if you're in kde4 you need to install gtk-qt-engine-kde401:47
Schuenemannok, it did nor work either01:47
josephin hardy, how do i make more than 2 virtual desktops?01:48
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: mine seems to be working with mp401:48
vbgunzbrb, hopefully this works01:49
Schuenemannbah, if I set to xvid and do ok/apply and then open the settings again, 'copy' is back01:49
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, what button do you click to start?01:50
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: as soon as I enter the filename it starts.01:51
Schuenemannyou click the mpg4 button?01:51
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: you click the folder option to open the DVD, select the titles you want, then click the toolbar icon with the mpg4 button.01:51
LeeJunFanyeah.01:51
LeeJunFanyeah, mine's working. hrm.01:53
LeeJunFancould be dvd specific, some discs especially those from sony studios or columbia just won't copy.01:53
Schuenemannit's dolby studio and says copy protected on the box01:55
Schuenemanndolby digital*01:55
Schuenemannfrom what I found on google, that error message is not from mencoder or mplayer01:57
LeeJunFanso when yours quits it simply says that about the format.01:57
LeeJunFan?01:57
Schuenemannyes01:58
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LeeJunFanwell, I wonder if it's got something to do with the fact that most of my multimedia packages are from medibuntu and therefore aren't crippled?01:59
Schuenemannsorry, I mean the error message IS from one of those01:59
LeeJunFanmplayer which mencoder uses, mencoder, ffmpeg, libdvd and all.01:59
LeeJunFanI'd enable medibuntu, run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade then try again with k9copy.02:00
LeeJunFan!medibuntu02:00
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org02:00
Schuenemannok02:00
SchuenemannI tested with a different dvd and it is copying02:01
LeeJunFanmay as well apt-get install libdvdcss2 as well after enabling medibuntu.02:01
josephbefore i upgraded to hardy, i was able to configure the desktop pager on the panel to have 6 virtual desktops, but now i only have two - regardless of how many i set in the applet.  does anyone have any suggestions?02:03
LeeJunFanyou have to configure the # of desktops, not the page applet itself. I think you can get there by right clicking on the desktop, configure, and properties.02:04
LeeJunFanjoseph: you aren't running compiz are you?02:04
josephhmm02:04
josephapparently i am02:04
josephaccording to ps, that is02:04
LeeJunFanjoseph: you installed compiz and started it and have desktop effects like cube and windows?02:05
josephwell, i have desktop effects02:05
josephbut not the cube or anything02:05
josephno emerald02:05
LeeJunFanokay, well compiz has it's own settings for virtual desktops under general.02:05
LeeJunFanif compiz is running on your desktop kde no longer controls the # of virtual desktops.02:06
josephdamn02:06
josephso i need to remove compiz then02:06
josephor maybe just disable desktop effects?02:06
CoJaBo-EeeOr set it there02:06
LeeJunFanor you need to configure compiz.02:06
josephyeah, but i don't have any compiz configuration options in kcontrol02:07
LeeJunFanjoseph: no kde3 isn't aware of compiz at all. you have to run ccsm if you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed02:07
LeeJunFanI can think of no reason why a person would disable compiz :p02:09
dr_willisMy wife says the wiggly windows makes her puke02:11
dr_willis:)02:11
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: well, if that other DVD works, and after updating with medibuntu your original one still won't rip, it's probably not going to with linux. Maybe with windows and an app like anydvd :(02:11
_2i can think of no reason a person would enable compiz    so i guess we're even.02:12
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, lots of packages from medibuntu seem the same version I already have installed... why should I upgrade them?02:13
LeeJunFanI think the versions ARE the same, but the point being that for legal reasons the counterparts included with ubuntu repos are neutered to avoid legal liability.02:14
Schuenemannif they're the same, why upgrade?02:15
LeeJunFan_2: compiz is one of those things you realize you like at some point in your life :) It's like when you were 5 and girls had 'cooties', then you turn 13 and you're like mmm. b...ies :)02:16
joshuajtlhi folks02:16
joshuajtlis kde4 replacing kde3 ? or will kde3 continue on?02:16
Schuenemannmencoder, ffmpeg, amarok, mplayer... everything is the same version02:16
LeeJunFanjoshuajtl: kde3 will continue on for a while, bug fixing mostly.02:16
LeeJunFanjoshuajtl: you can go to kde.org in the developer region and see that they still have a lot planned for kde3 fixes.02:17
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: see what I said above - neutered.02:17
LeeJunFanparts removed.02:17
CoJaBo-EeeOk, I have a problem... Its not possible to tell when a process is maxing out the CPU (Unlike Windows, the system remains responsive like nothing is going on, meanwhile the battery is running down o_O ).02:17
joshuajtlbut is kde4 a branch or a replacement?02:17
_2LeeJunFan heh when i realized that i didn't like gui's in general i think that got me past liking compiz altogather  ;/02:17
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, I don't understand. If they are the same, how can one be legal and the other not?02:18
LeeJunFan_2: okay :) For some things. I'm no stranger to the console, I often prefer it to using any tools configuring a system, but I like a gui for general desktop use.02:18
Schuenemannand which one is the legal?02:18
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: you take amarok 1.2, you remove the ability to play mp3, it's still version 1.2 (lite).02:19
CoJaBo-EeeAnyway is it possible to put a CPU monitor in the taskbar to show CPU load?02:19
LeeJunFanLegality of them is debatable in most instances.02:19
LeeJunFanBut it's a debate that an organization like ubuntu dare not risk.02:20
LeeJunFanSo the default repos don't have certain functions that are available in medibuntu's repos.02:20
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, if I install from medibuntu I'll remove that ability?02:20
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: if you install from medibuntu you'll add functionality.02:20
Daisuke_IdoLeeJunFan: and you take Amarok, take away everything that makes it great, and you have amarok 2 :)02:20
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LeeJunFanDaisuke_Ido: agreed.02:21
LeeJunFanironic eh.02:21
LeeJunFanThey must be following along with the theme of kde4 alltogether.02:21
Daisuke_Idoi'll not get into that particular debate, though i tend to agree02:22
LeeJunFanActually kde4 isn't too lacking, I've been using it for a week, I miss a couple small things, mostly the ability to tweak stuff just isn't there yet in kde4.02:22
Schuenemannomg this is too complicated02:22
SchuenemannI'll install everything02:22
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: that's what I was saying - apt-get upgrade and let it go.02:22
BluesKaj'evening02:29
judgenwhere does prtin screen screenshots end up?02:30
_2judgen $HOME normally02:32
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, it seems to be working now02:33
judgenok02:33
judgen_2: noppe02:34
judgen_2: not here02:34
CoJaBo-EeeIs it possible to put a CPU monitor in the taskbar to show CPU load?02:34
SchuenemannCoJaBo-Eee, not superkaramba?02:35
CoJaBo-Eee?02:35
Schuenemannsearch google images for superkaramba and see if that's what you want02:35
judgenCoJaBo-Eee: yes just add the kicker aplet02:37
judgenCoJaBo-Eee: no neeed for karaba or s-karamba02:37
LeeJunFanCoJaBo-Eee: there's a kde applet to put one there, it's pretty ugly, but it works. I forget the name of it. Right click the panel, add applet, you should find it there.02:40
LeeJunFanI'm in kde4 or I'd look for you.02:40
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, hey, does it really take a lot of time to rip? Estimated is 4 hours02:40
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: yeah, depends on the amount of data, speed of computer, and encoding options.02:41
Schuenemannoh... =/02:41
LeeJunFanit takes a lot of cpu time to encode video. I've encoded my own DVD's from other formats and had to leave it running for over a day.02:42
ServaIs there a GUI based ftp client in kubuntu that can copy some files from a remote host?02:43
SchuenemannServa, filezilla02:44
Servatks02:44
waynewhats up02:44
SchuenemannLeeJunFan, I see... well, thanks02:44
waynei need help with kubuntu02:44
waynehello?02:45
Schuenemann!ask | wayne02:45
ubottuwayne: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)02:45
CoJaBo-EeeLeeJunFan: I'm in KDE4, is there a way to do it there?02:45
waynegames will not show up they are in lines02:46
Makuseru!dvd02:47
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:47
LeeJunFanCoJaBo-Eee: I don't think there is yet.02:48
LeeJunFanhow lame, there's a twitter microblog applet and no cpu monitor - hehe02:49
CoJaBo-Eeelol, wha?02:49
CoJaBo-EeeOk, I found the option to get new ones, but theres only 2 listed, and no description of what they even do :/02:50
rootel español02:51
rootm lo dan02:51
BrunoqcIs there a way to upgrade to intrepid alpha 6 with adept?02:51
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Guest18673el español02:51
Guest18673kubuntu auda espanol02:51
LeeJunFan!es02:51
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:51
Guest18673ok02:52
CoJaBo-EeeLeeJunFan: Is there any other place to get more?02:52
LeeJunFanCoJaBo-Eee: superkaramba may be the way to go , there's a package superkaramba-kde4 that might be what you're looking for - I've never messed with it.02:53
LeeJunFan!intrepid02:53
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!02:53
* LeeJunFan looks up ibex02:54
LeeJunFanfinds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibex02:54
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LeeJunFanokay, so it's a goat02:54
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CoJaBo-Eeelol02:55
CoJaBo-EeeLeeJunFan: Ok I'll look at that. Is there anywhere else to get new widgets, or are there really only 2 available?02:55
LeeJunFanmight be more on kdelook.org?02:55
LeeJunFanhttp://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=70x77&PHPSESSID=0259bc882555603b66920bdfc895b08302:55
tacosarecoolhello03:12
tacosarecoolAnyone here that can support me right now I don't wanna waste my time unless theres a expert in the room03:15
holycowwhat is the kde equivalent of gksudo?03:33
holycownm got it03:33
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seba!es03:49
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:49
ForgeAushey all04:15
ForgeAuswhat package has ATI Radeon (non fglxr) drivers?04:16
ForgeAusI think I need to reinstall/re-configure it04:16
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bla__hello04:25
CoJaBo-Eeehi04:27
bla__I am having issues with running two wifi cards 1 intagrated and the other pcmcia(proxim 8421) help, pointin the right direction04:27
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ign0ramusbla__: your pcmcia card is very old... what is your integrated card?04:30
ign0ramus!wifi | bla__04:31
ubottubla__: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:31
bla__ipw220004:31
bla__I installed the pac but when I type "make" it tells me wireless extensions not enabled04:33
bla__the ipw2200 is working I just can't get the other in line04:33
ign0ramushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63219804:36
ign0ramusbla__: if the ipw2200 is working, what is the problem?04:36
bla__I want to run int and the other pcmcia04:37
bla__AP04:37
ign0ramusbla__: i know this isn't the 'ubuntu way', but running such an old card (wireless-b) is not going to be the easiest if it's not natively supported04:38
ign0ramusbla__: someone may be able to help you, but I would suggest a newer card or use usb wireless g, which you can find for $20USD04:40
bla__would the netgear 511 work....a,b,g....not as much issues newer card04:41
bla__??04:41
ign0ramusbla__: lemme check...04:41
bla__check ??? where???04:41
ForgeAuswhat doy ou mean by the "ubuntu way" ?04:42
ign0ramusbla__: according to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16833150016, the card worked OOB with Hardy Heron04:43
bla__OOB??04:43
ign0ramusForgeAus: apparently, there is an 'ubuntu way' http://www.google.com/search?q=the+ubuntu+way&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a04:43
bla__out of the box04:43
bla__k04:43
ign0ramusbla__: yes.  :)04:43
ign0ramusbla__: are you running Hardy and still having issues with the card?04:44
bla__cool..thx...off to $pend money$04:44
bla__Hardy04:44
bla__????04:44
bla__ubuntu 804:44
ign0ramusbla__: there is no 'ubuntu 8'.... are you running hardy? (08.04 - April's version)04:45
bla__O..yea...caled hardy...ok04:46
ign0ramusbla__: and the card is not detected upon boot? I only ask because others using this card say that it is detected by the OS04:46
bla__no..the ipw2200 works every time...the pcimcia card just fills the hole04:47
ign0ramusbla__: does it work under Windows (only to make sure that your hardware is functioning properly)?04:48
bla__I bought the card on ebay....maybe the card is bad.....no on windows04:48
ign0ramusbla__: if the card does not work on Windows or Ubuntu Hardy, there is a good chance the card is bad :(04:49
bla__yea...got pinched04:49
bla__k...back to the store...thanx alt 4 ur help04:49
ign0ramusbla__: it's happened to me before... damn JustDeals!04:49
outbackwifihello04:55
ign0ramuso hai!04:55
RAm_22hola05:00
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NinjaraDoes the automount system or something have a habit of spinning up the CD rom even if you didn't open the tray and there's no disc in it?05:13
NinjaraMine keeps spinning up (even when empty) and it gets really annoying in the long run to listen to.05:13
NinjaraRunning 8.04 and so forth.05:13
NinjaraAnd if the cause isn't immediately obvioys, does anyone know of a way to find out what process is trying to access the CD drive?05:14
mr---t-top will give you running processes05:15
mr---t-dmesg will allow you to see if it's during boot05:16
Ninjarayeah, I just use ps ax05:16
NinjaraBut I dunno how to tell from there what is accessing what on the fs05:16
CostaRicanGFshello, i just installed buntu on my gfs laptop but the screen is messed up05:24
CostaRicanGFsi am on failsafe mode now because i messed up the settings thinking that i could solve it changing the resolution to a lower one05:24
CostaRicanGFsthe problem is that the screen is like a little screen inside the screen05:24
CostaRicanGFstheres like an inch of black space around where the gui is05:24
michaeloKEK06:05
michaeloCOMO INSTALAR06:05
michaeloAMSN??06:05
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HumanityHello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?06:11
HumanityHello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?06:12
HumanityI can only get a black screen with cursor, when desktop effects enabled in kde 4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy. Can anyone help me out?06:13
HumanityHello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?06:14
Reed_Solomonsorry i can't06:14
Reed_Solomoni would guess its broken06:14
Reed_Solomonturn them off06:14
Reed_Solomonrestart with your last working ubuntu and fix the settings06:14
HumanityIts easy to say to set it off. But compiz working fine, but kwin suffers. Is there a bug announced?06:15
HumanityAnyone else?06:16
HumanityAny kubnntu geek out there?06:17
HumanityDear.Solomon, I had never broken kwin. Its not working right from the start.06:18
Humanitycan you figure out what could be the problem?06:19
HumanityHello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?06:22
HumanityHello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?06:24
HumanityHello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?06:24
HumanityHello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?06:25
raja_Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?06:35
raja_?????????06:35
leaszumikBUENAS06:36
Darkrift2i got some of them working for a few minutes then kdm died on me06:37
Darkrift2after that kde4 wouldnt run anymore, and kdm3 stopped working also... .now im stuck logging in from command line06:37
raja_what could be the cause?06:37
Darkrift2not sure, i was adding one affect at a time and it locked up, on reboot nothing worked06:37
Darkrift2had to go back to kde306:37
raja_Is kwin conflicts with compiz?06:38
Darkrift2i didnt have compiz06:38
raja_I have got compiz working06:38
raja_Do install it from adept package manager06:38
Darkrift2i did06:38
raja_search for compiz-kde06:38
Darkrift2oh, i dont want compiz on here06:38
SkEmOany good, and i mean good professional video  editing software for kubunu06:39
SkEmO?06:39
raja_but it seems to me that without compiz, we cannot run kde4, becauz kwin crashes and struckworks06:39
raja_I like the presentation of kde4 fonts and the oxygen theme06:40
raja_so would like to continue with kde4.1.106:40
raja_But I am too not very much fond of compiz. It flickers a lot06:41
raja_But I have no other way to run kde4 without compiz right now06:41
SkEmO*sigh*06:42
raja_Is there any official bugs registered against desktop effects in kde4 or 4.1.1 either?06:43
raja_hello SkEmo?06:44
raja_are you following?06:44
raja_??????????06:45
raja_4.1.1 kwin effects failure06:45
raja_4.1.1 kwin effects -- "failure"06:46
SkEmOnot really06:46
SkEmOi use kde 306:46
raja_Ther is a one named automatix2 for video editing which is available for both K,Ubuntu06:48
SkEmOuhm06:48
SkEmOi was looking for kineterra06:49
SkEmObut cant find it06:49
SkEmOlemme try that one06:49
raja_Google it.06:49
raja_Hello SkEmo, there is another one too named -- Kino06:51
raja_bye06:51
raja_Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?06:51
raja_I can only get a black screen with cursor, when desktop effects enabled in kde 4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy. Can anyone help me out?06:55
Daisuke_Idoraja_: you were humanity before, do NOT pm people without asking them, and don't repeat your question incessantly.  it's the middle of the night for a lot of people, don't be surprised if no one's around.  and no, i don't know the answer.06:59
raja_ok07:00
raja_Thanku buddy07:00
raja_cool07:00
raja_It may be midnight. Bu I hope it is not the end of the world07:02
raja_anyway, sorry if i disturbed you07:02
raja_Hello, I am from chennai07:08
raja_Want add you ad buddy.07:08
raja_Are you interested?07:08
raja_Raja07:08
raja_Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?07:09
raja_I can only get a black screen with cursor, when desktop effects enabled in kde 4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy. Can anyone help me out?07:09
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raja_Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?07:12
raja_I can only get a black screen with cursor, when desktop effects enabled in kde 4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy. Can anyone help me out?07:12
lamozhi raja07:13
raja_hi lamoz. Is that ur name?07:14
lamozdid you enable your 3D device?07:14
raja_yah, I have got compiz working07:14
lamozno, it's my nickname...07:14
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raja_But its kwin which is not functioning properly when desktop effects were enabled07:14
raja_nice nick07:15
lamozwhich kind of 3D video card are you using?*07:15
lamozthanks!07:15
raja_I am using VIA Chrome9 HC IGP Family, VN89607:15
raja_I have no problem with compiz07:16
lamozi don't know this07:16
raja_All the available effects are working fine in both kde3 and kde407:16
lamozso, your hardware should be ok07:16
raja_ofcoarse07:17
raja_where r u frm?07:17
raja_i am frm chennai, India07:17
lamozi've no idea, i tried the 3D desktop without any problem07:18
lamozI'm from france07:18
lamozbut i'm now in Germany07:18
raja_I am also heard about that. Today. I will try that07:18
raja_Nice07:18
joshua__has anyone installed  compiz .7.8?07:19
raja_Whats' the time now in german?07:19
joshua__i downloaded it but dont know how to install it?07:19
joshua__im in phoenix arizona07:19
lamozsunny but cold07:19
raja_tell ur proble joshua07:19
lamozi had to unfreeze my car this morning07:19
raja_i see07:19
raja_what OS You r using Josua? If you want you may pm me07:20
lamozah... th time, sorry, it's 8:20 AM07:20
sebastian_hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?07:21
lamozand in india?07:21
raja_its 11.53 a.m right here in india07:21
lamozsoon the lunch time?07:21
sebastian_hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?07:21
sebastian_hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?07:21
lamozok, so, i've to work a little07:22
joshua__how do i install compiz .7.8?07:22
lamozgood luck with your devices07:22
sebastian_sudo apt-get install compiz07:22
joshua__i already have it downloaded07:22
sebastian_maby u need to explain a little better07:23
sebastian_hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?07:24
joshua__i have compiz .7.8 downloaded to my desktop07:24
sebastian_but what kind of a file is it?07:25
sebastian_debian?07:25
sebastian_hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?07:26
sebastian_sorry u answered to slow now i have to go :)07:27
surgyim in the market for a tv tuner card. I was wandering if anyone know a good cheap one that works with kubuntu, has a remote, and is of decent quality07:35
surgy?07:35
jussi01!tv | surgy07:35
ubottusurgy: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out07:35
jussi01surgy: that site has a real good list...07:36
lemon_#ubuntu07:41
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isabel__what's the name of that program to depackage tarballs08:36
isabel__and the one that compiles downloaded debs on its own08:36
eddieftwisabel__: apt?08:40
eddieftwtar?08:40
isabel__it allows you to open tarballs08:42
isabel__what's the name of the package to get it fronm the terminal08:42
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djfred72_hello isabel__08:54
o0Chris0ois 8.10 alpha release? and what are the changes/fixes09:23
favro!intrepid09:23
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!09:23
o0Chris0oahh its only going to come with 4.1?09:24
favroI dunno check here - https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion09:26
o0Chris0othanks09:26
o0Chris0owhen it is offically realsed will hardy automaticly update to it? or do I have to do it manually?09:28
favroit will come as an option to dist-upgrade in adept - that's what happens normally09:29
favroafaik... :)09:30
o0Chris0owill that leave the older files, or replace them so its not kde3 and kde409:35
mkrahmehis this like the mirc09:37
mkrahmeh??09:37
mkrahmehthis is my first time09:37
zzillezzthis is irc, mirc is the name of a windows program to connect to an irc network09:37
mkrahmehcan anyone suggest a kde based dictionary program09:39
mkrahmehprefarably arabic-english09:39
|neon|if i used the update manager to upgrade to ibex will i loose any of my stuff that i currently have setup on hardy?09:40
favro|neon|: the folk in #ubuntu+1 will know09:42
favromkrahmeh: http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=english+arabic+dictionary&btnG=Search&meta= - gives a few choices09:44
mkrahmehthx i will give it a try09:45
silovioragazzi sono nuovo............qualcuno mi aiuta nella configurazione della webcam per Kopete? :)09:51
favro!it09:53
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)09:53
ngirardHi all, one of my partitions is bootable and contains a Windows installation (/dev/sdc1). How can I get grub to add an entry for this partition ?09:56
silovioragazzi sono nuovo di linux............non resta la webcam su kopete,sparisce subito,qualcuno mi sa dire come posso risolvere?09:57
ngirard(i guess it's the first time i need to boot on windows in, err, 4 years)09:57
favro!es | silovio09:58
ubottusilovio: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.09:58
favrongirard: the only way I know is to manually add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst09:59
ngirardfavro: ok. Can you give me a hand on this ? I know lilo far much better than grub09:59
favrongirard: sure - kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst   and I'll paste what you need to add10:00
favro!paste10:00
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:00
favrongirard: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48255/ - the line about (hd3,0) should maybe be (sd3,0)10:03
favrongirard: and it goes at the bottom10:04
favrongirard: and thinking about it grub counts 0,1,2 etc so (sd2,0) would be better10:05
ngirardfavro: wow. A huge thanks for your efforts! I'm in a rush and it's such a great pleasure to know that you've just saved me 20 or 30 minutes10:05
ngirardfavro: understood10:05
favrok :)10:06
ngirardfavro: thanks very much again10:06
evilshurhi all10:06
favrohi evilshur10:06
beritHi! When i left click on e.g firefox in the task list in the tool bar, I get the context menu, right click also gives context menu... anyone got the same problem with Kubuntu 8.04.1?10:07
favronot here :)10:08
evilshuri newbie in irc , please tell me more channels for example10:08
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kuberitHi! When i left click on e.g firefox in the task list in the tool bar, I get the context menu, right click also gives context menu. This is in Kubuntu 8.04.110:10
kuberitCant get my head around it, anyone know where I can look for options for this?10:11
favroevilshur: http://searchirc.com/ - will help10:11
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kuberitah, sorry! there are ofcourse an option for this, thanks!!10:15
evilshurthx favro10:17
favronp :)10:17
Logico_hsomebody know , how to play a song with ares?10:17
favro!info ares10:21
ubottuPackage ares does not exist in hardy10:21
Kraplaxhello there :)10:25
Kraplaxi installed kubuntu 8.04 on my eeepc10:25
favroKraplax: well done :)10:28
Kraplaxsorry - doorbell :)10:29
Kraplaxso, i installed and there's only KDE4.010:30
Kraplaxi even made apt-get upgrade - it asked to download about 140 MB10:30
Kraplaxafter that - almost no changes (visually)10:30
Kraplaxso, what command do i need to enter to get the KDE4.1.x ?10:31
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JucatoKraplax: #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 support10:32
mkrahmehdoes tork allow to bypass proxy ??10:35
kho_zhiyo guys10:37
kho_zhiany idea about, linux enterprise on oracle?10:37
kho_zhihow to setup database grid?10:37
ghostcube^^10:37
ghostcubered hat enterprise support ?10:38
akachahallo10:43
user6__! card reader11:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about card reader11:21
user6__! SD11:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sd11:21
user6__! card11:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about card11:21
user6__! reader11:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about reader11:22
user6__! games11:22
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php11:22
ForgeAusdoes ubuntu have an enterprise version?11:22
eliripshello. I am trying to print from kpdf, using the setting '4 pages on 1'. But I cannot set the paper-orientation to 'landscape', the "box" where you can setthis is disabled. anyone has an idea how to change this?11:34
frybyeForgeAus: just a server version if i am right...11:35
ForgeAusyeah essentially its ubuntu-minimal + some server software, prolly stuff like apache, etc..11:36
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ForgeAuson the other end of the scale is kubuntu going to have a Mobile edition?11:48
ForgeAus(like Ubuntu-MID)11:48
ForgeAusI guess it sounds more like fluxbox than KDE would be the obvious Mobile choice11:49
o0Chris0oMorning :)11:58
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o0Chris0oI tried to enable my Proproiter drivers but it says "this application needs special administrator privileges.11:59
o0Chris0orun it as root or through kdesu or sudo, how do I do that I am logged in as administrator I assume12:00
udohatemeTHE NEGRO BRAIN12:04
udohatemeFACT #17: Among human races numerous studies have been madeof the comparative weight of White and Negro brains with results that fellwithin the range of about an 8-12 percent lower weight for the Negro brain.Such studies have been conducted by Bean, Pearl, Vint, Tilney, Gordon, Todd,and others. (23) (27)12:04
udohatemeFACT #18: In addition to the difference in brain weight, the Negrobrain grows less after puberty than the white. Though the Negro brain andnervous system mature faster than the white brain, its development is arrestedat an earlier age which limits further intellectual advancement. (22) (27)12:04
udohatemeFACT #19: The thickness of the supragranular layer (the outside layer)of the Negro brain is about 15 percent thinner, and its convolutions arefewer and more simple, on average, than that of the White brain. (9)12:05
udohatemeFACT #20: The frontal lobes of the Negro brain, responsible for abstractconceptional reasoning, are smaller relative to body weight, less fissured,and less complex than those of the White brain. (9) (27) (23) (22)12:05
apol|workisn't he going to be kicked?12:05
Jucato!ops | udohateme12:06
ubottuudohateme: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild,  Pici or jussi01!12:06
gnomefreakhe stopped12:06
stdinand now he can't continue12:07
Jucato:)12:07
gnomefreaki just read some of what he posted, he needs a ban12:07
Jucatosorry, I didn't know that if someone stops spam-flood, that's considered ok already :)12:07
gnomefreakJucato: yeah no need to do anything if he stops but what he posted he needs to be banned for (if he comes back with that crap12:08
o0Chris0ohi stdin, long time no chat, you helped me out awhile back :) I'm back :D12:08
o0Chris0oyeah is borderline racist12:08
Jucatognomefreak: I would have called ops if I didn't think his flood was inappropriate :P12:09
* Jucato knows the SOP :)12:09
stdingnomefreak: he was doing it in other channels as far as I can gather12:09
Jucatounless that changed while I was away12:09
o0Chris0ohow do I enable my proproiter drivers? says I need to have sudo command?12:10
stdinuse jokey12:10
stdinKMenu -> System -> Hardware Drivers12:11
o0Chris0oweird how that worked, had a pop up of the same window to enable the drivers, but it didn't work the first time12:13
stdinwhen you use the item in the KMenu it should run it via kdesu12:14
o0Chris0oI see12:14
o0Chris0ostdin: you help me set up ubottu if I remember exactly was before summer :)12:16
evilshursomebody tell pls how can watchin a fullscreen video with compiz effects are turned on? not work for me12:16
stdino0Chris0o: yeah, I remember12:17
evilshursorry for bad english12:17
o0Chris0oevilshur: I very much understood you :) wasn't that bad12:18
o0Chris0o!compiz | evilshur12:18
ubottuevilshur: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion12:18
o0Chris0otry going there and asking help, I'm sure someone in there can help you further why full screen isn't working with compiz on12:19
evilshurthx. for u help)12:20
o0Chris0onp12:20
o0Chris0o!kde12:21
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde412:21
o0Chris0o!kde412:21
ubottuKDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde412:21
badseriiHi. Is it possible to use mask for the "rm" command? For example, I want to delete all files starting with "mail.", but I can't do "rm mail.*" Is there a solution? Thank you in advance!12:36
Jucatobadserii: "rm mail*"?12:37
badseriiJucato: thank you! I was in another directory :)12:38
Jucato:)12:38
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tamerwhy my KDE 4.1.1 crashes with compizfusion but works good with KDE 3.5.913:03
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mollahey peeps13:13
mollaI am looking for some repositories that work13:14
mollaanyone13:14
mollahhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooo13:15
molla!13:15
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pumpkin__is anyone on that can help me14:03
pumpkin__i'm desparate for help14:03
favro!ask14:03
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)14:03
williamhi only one question, repositories tu gutsy please...14:04
william hi only one question, repositories to gutsy please...14:04
pumpkin__sorry, my task bar has completely disappeared and and i can't figure out how to get it back.14:05
shadowhywindpumpkin__: kde4?14:06
shadowhywindis there a way to change inode of a partition without having to backup/restore the data?14:06
pumpkin__yes, kde4 hardy heron14:07
shadowhywindpumpkin__: top right corner on the plasmoid thing..  kick on add widget14:07
shadowhywindpumpkin__:  then add system tray /  tasmanager14:07
pumpkin__there's no plasmoid thing14:08
shadowhywindyou don't have the little icon thing in the corner??14:08
pumpkin__no, i don't have any icons on my destop14:08
ActionParsnipyo yo yo14:08
shadowhywindpumpkin__: oh, thats a bit strange14:09
pumpkin__hmmm14:09
ActionParsnipsup pumpkin__14:10
pumpkin__my task has disappeared and i haven't the foggiest idea how to get it back14:10
ActionParsnippumpkin__: how do you mean "task"?14:11
pumpkin__the kmenu along with the task bar that's usually at the bottom of the screen14:12
pumpkin__mine just disappeared somehow14:12
pumpkin__i'm wondering if i typed something wrong14:12
ActionParsnippumpkin__: run kicker14:12
pumpkin__it didn't do anything14:13
ActionParsnippumpkin__: does a reboot help?14:14
pumpkin__nope14:14
favroand it's kde4 isn't it14:14
pumpkin__yes14:15
ActionParsnippumpkin__: ok, drop to command line and rename ~/.kde and ~/.kde4 (if you have it) to .kde_old and. kde4old14:15
pumpkin__i'm  double checking right now14:15
ActionParsnipthen reboot14:15
Jucatoum...14:15
Jucatonothing to do with ~/.kde (that's for KDE 3)14:15
Jucatono need to reboot (you only need to restart KDE)14:15
pumpkin__oh shit, that's where i went wrong14:16
ActionParsnipJucato: he may be on kde314:16
JucatoActionParsnip: he did say he was on KDE 414:16
pumpkin__earlier i was following online structions and i copypasted ~/.kde/share/sounds14:16
ActionParsnipJucato: i see14:16
pumpkin__i'm trying very hard to learn linux on my own but this one through me off, could that have caused the problem?14:17
JucatoReset Plasma: "kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* && plasma"14:17
ActionParsnippumpkin__: if you rename the kde4 folder and reboot you will get a stock one, see if thats good14:17
pumpkin__btw, i'm a she14:17
ActionParsnippumpkin__: if not, rename back14:17
Jucatosorry. "she"14:17
pumpkin__lol14:17
pumpkin__will if cause any damage to the things i've done?14:18
ilembitovHi, all. How do I switch from Kubuntu to Ubuntu, without reinstalling the system? I had a fresh Kubuntu install, want a clean Ubuntu14:19
ActionParsnippumpkin__: no as you are only renaming, not deleting14:19
Piciilembitov: Do you want to get rid of KDE?14:19
Jucato!puregnome14:19
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome »14:19
ActionParsnipilembitov: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop14:19
pumpkin__i also don't have any tool bars, thank you for all the help by the way14:20
ilembitovPici: I want to get rid of all Kubuntu-related packages and have Ubuntu as if I installed it from Ubuntu install CD14:21
ActionParsnippumpkin__: id go for the .kde4 folder then14:21
Piciilembitov: Use the !puregnome instructions above14:21
pumpkin__k, i'll try that, brb now i'm back tracking to find it14:23
pumpkin__now i'm trying to figure out how to rename14:24
ActionParsnippumpkin__: mv <oldname> <newname>14:25
Jucatopumpkin__: what toolbars are you missing?14:25
sTratovariuZcan someone help me with my flash prob? i'm not able to watch videoclips with regular quality, they are always deformed, apparantely cuz of my flash is not working14:25
Jucatopumpkin__: if you're just missing the panel at the bottom, did you try the commands I gave?14:25
pumpkin__i'm going to reboot, brb14:26
sTratovariuZnoone can help me about flash?14:26
ActionParsnip!flash sTratovariuZ14:27
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:27
Jucato(that reboot was really unnecessary.... *sigh*)14:27
sTratovariuZActionParnsip: ??14:30
pumpkin_i'm back14:30
ghostcube!flash | sTratovariuZ14:30
ubottusTratovariuZ: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash14:30
pumpkin_I just got an error message "14:30
pumpkin_Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:14:30
pumpkin_klauncher said: Unknown protocol ''.14:30
sTratovariuZno i already installed it through my repository but i think i have a prob, i even tried to unistall and reinstall but the issue is still there14:31
ghostcubesTratovariuZ: this is adobe plugin ?14:31
sTratovariuZquality! whatever i watch in streaming is bad quality and i asked my friend to watch the same link and it's good quality for them14:31
sTratovariuZplus there's always a line in the middle of the screen whatever i watch in streaming14:32
pumpkin_so that's the error i'm getting now. I"m tool bars have come back however still no dice on a task bar at the bottom of the screen.14:32
sTratovariuZghostcube: the one that you can install from the repository it's called flashplugin-nonfree if im not wrong14:32
ghostcubeis this firefox ?14:34
pumpkin_what do i do with that error message?14:34
sTratovariuZghostcube: u talking to me? yes i use ff314:35
ghostcube/usr/lib/firefox/plugins   is there the flash plugin14:36
pumpkin_can anyone let me know what to do with that error message i copy/pasted? My tast bar is still MIA14:38
sTratovariuZivegot usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin_alternative.so and here usr/lib/flashplugin_nonfree/libflashplayer.so14:39
sTratovariuZghostcube: ivegot usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin_alternative.so and here usr/lib/flashplugin_nonfree/libflashplayer.so14:40
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ghostcubesTratovariuZ: ty to softlink the libflashplayer into the firefox plugs14:43
ghostcubeln -sf /usr/lib/flashplugin_nonfree/libflashplayer.so  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/14:44
sTratovariuZdo i have to copy this all line in the terminal?14:45
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rpaninigfdgfd15:18
rpaninigfdg15:18
rpaninifdg15:18
rpaninifdg15:18
tiger0007поставил себе kubuntu 8.04 может кто нибудь подсказать как в ней заставить работать acorp ds110 спутниковый ресивер?15:18
favro!ru15:18
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:18
ServaHey, is there any channel for cars related banter?15:19
favroServa: try here - http://searchirc.com/15:20
Servatks favro, i'll try that.15:21
favronp :)15:21
favrohttp://searchirc.com/dir/Transportation/Auto - says he won't get much chat15:22
spookyhello to all of you15:32
spookyI am new to kubuntu and Linux15:32
spookyTry to replace windows15:32
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spookyI need some help15:33
jussi01spooky: do you have something you need help with?15:33
spookyyes15:33
jussi01spooky: please ask :)15:33
spookyI am from Greece and I have two language installed . English and Greece15:33
spookyI need to know how to change language from keybord15:34
spookyCtrl+shift for wxample15:34
spookyLike windows15:34
spookyCan you help me ?15:34
jussi01Hrm, Im notsure of that, have a look in system settings - keyboard and mouse15:35
jussi01look in the shorcuts part and see if you can see something.15:35
jussi01also look in regional settings as well15:35
leaszumikcual es la sala en spanish15:37
Pici!es | leaszumik15:37
ubottuleaszumik: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.15:37
zimba12hi15:44
ngirardHi all. Sometimes my dsl modem hangs and I need a script that connects to the modem via telnet and reboots it. My modem is a D-Link DSL G-604T. Could someone gimme a hand on this ?15:45
zimba12where can I find the md5sum of Kubuntu 8.04.1 Kde4Remix ISO image file?15:45
Frekugoogle ?15:46
favro!md515:46
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows15:46
zimba12here (http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/MD5SUMS)15:48
zimba12I cannot find the md5 for my version (Kde4 Remix)15:49
tictactatichi, any clues why add new widget, download from internet only returns two entries after upgrade to 4.1.1?/15:51
favrotictactatic: you'll have to ask in #kubuntu-kde4 for that15:52
tictactaticthanks favro15:53
favronp :)15:53
Frekuits german site but there is md5 at end of page15:54
Frekuhttp://www.kubuntu-de.org/download/hardy15:54
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Frekusorry15:55
Frekuthis one15:55
Frekuhttp://www.kubuntu-de.org/download-kubuntu-8-04-hardy-heron-kde4-remix-herunterladen15:55
manunteroirc://irc.freenode.org:6667/kdehispano15:58
zimba12thanks Freku15:58
favrohttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/hardy/release/MD5SUMS - is another15:59
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Frekubut that is not the remix version16:02
favroI wondered about that...16:03
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o0Chris0ohow do I set the settings for konversation and kopete to minimize to system tray and not show up in the task bar? is their such option? can't seem to find it16:09
rickdiscofor konversation16:10
rickdiscogo to settings -> configure konversation -> general16:10
rickdiscoand you can tick a box to use the system tray16:10
rickdiscoim pretty sure kopete does it automatically16:11
rickdiscobut i could be wrong16:11
stdinsettings for kopete in: Settings -> Configure -> Behaviour16:11
o0Chris0oI thought so too, but it still shows up in task bar16:11
stdin"Start with hidden main window"16:11
stdinor just click the tray icon to hide it16:11
rickdiscoyeah, clicking the tray icons minimises the app to tray16:12
ForgeAusactually I thought both did by default16:12
o0Chris0othat worked for konversation16:12
o0Chris0oand kopete :D16:12
rickdisconice :)16:12
ForgeAusI think when the window is open however both still show up in taskbar...16:13
o0Chris0oyeah thats fine16:13
aaroncampbellWhere can I set printer margins on FireFox 3.0.1 on Linux?  I thought I used to go to "File->Page Setup" but that doesn't have margins anymore.  On my windows computer, 3.0.1 DOES have margins there, so it's only on my Kubuntu machine16:18
trojan_muahaha16:18
trojan_KIss my ass please16:18
KRFtrojan_, i wont!16:19
trojan_чече16:19
trojan_я нз16:19
trojan_ЧТо ты дурак16:19
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o0Chris0ostdin: you the man!16:42
BraveSpearDoes anyone know how to disable to KMenu button using config files?  I want to only have a taskbar across the bottom of the screen to display running programs, with the system tray and clock in the corner.  Applications will be placed on the desktop.16:44
BraveSpearAnd I want to burn this configuration to a livecd, so I need to know the config files.16:45
starenkahi. gtk widget settings just disappeared from my KDE control center. How can i get this back?16:50
o0Chris0o!gtk16:53
ubottuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI16:53
White_Pelicanwhat is the release schedule for intrepid?16:53
Pici!schedule-#ubuntu+1 | White_Pelican16:54
ubottuWhite_Pelican: A schedule of Intrepid Ibex (8.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule16:54
Tm_T!intrepid | White_Pelican16:54
ubottuWhite_Pelican: Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!16:54
o0Chris0ooctober I think16:54
Tm_TPici: aww16:54
White_Pelicanty16:54
o0Chris0oits called white pelican?16:54
o0Chris0oo.016:54
o0Chris0ooh nvm16:54
o0Chris0ohaha man16:54
White_Pelicanwill there be any betas before release?16:54
Tm_TWhite_Pelican: ofcourse16:55
o0Chris0othere is now16:55
White_Pelicanit's currently at alpha 516:55
White_Pelicanunless it hasn't hit the web site yet16:55
Tm_To0Chris0o: beta? no, alpha is not beta, son16:55
o0Chris0osome ppl don't under stand the alpha/beta, I should of worded it differently so I said yes16:56
o0Chris0omy bad16:56
White_Pelicanno worries16:56
White_PelicanI know the difference ;)16:56
o0Chris0ok good :)16:57
White_Pelicanimportant question: an I still get kde 3 for intrepid if I wanted to?16:57
o0Chris0ois there testing phase after beta? I just know of alpha and beta16:57
White_Pelicanam*16:57
o0Chris0ono :(16:57
o0Chris0ojust 4.116:57
White_Pelicannot good16:57
wfps_105hi all16:57
White_Pelicancan't believe Mark Shuttleworth agreed to this, and no i'm not trolling16:57
wfps_105may someone help me? Iäm having problems starting my old computer using ubuntu...16:58
White_Pelicanhello wfps_10516:58
Tm_TWhite_Pelican: nobody is stopping you to help packaging kde3 to intrepid16:58
geekwfps_105: what kinda problem/computer specifically?16:58
White_Pelicanwhat's the problem?16:58
o0Chris0o4.1 is nice, needs some more features, hopefully they will add more before a final release16:58
White_PelicanTm_T, I am not a developer16:58
Tm_TWhite_Pelican: you are16:58
wfps_105ehm... it won't start... I got all the bios stuff and then a black screen with a little _ appears... nothing more happens :(16:59
White_Pelican?16:59
o0Chris0oeveryone is :D16:59
White_Pelicanhow old is your computer?16:59
wfps_105I installed ubuntu on the computer's harddrive from my computer16:59
wfps_105about 4 years16:59
wfps_105512 MB ram, think it's a 2,2GHz processor..16:59
Tm_Tthat's not old then16:59
wfps_105(upgraded)16:59
White_Pelicanvideo card?16:59
wfps_105well old for me :P17:00
wfps_105no Idea... all I can tell it's not pci-express xD17:00
geeklol17:00
White_Pelicanoic17:00
geekwfps_105: hmm, might be the video card. tried safe mode?17:01
White_Pelicanso you successfully ran through the install?17:01
wfps_105I'm not getting to that point :P17:01
wfps_105Yes, I did17:01
wfps_105can't start safe mode17:01
White_Pelicansingle user mode, maybe?17:01
wfps_105how?17:01
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geeknaw, if its an issue with X single user mode won't do anything17:01
o0Chris0owfps_105:  go to the KDE info center to find out what video card you have kmenu>system>kinfocenter17:02
wfps_105oh17:02
wfps_105ok17:02
wfps_105wait17:02
geeklol17:02
geekhe can't get into x17:03
geekwfps_105: at the flashing - try control alternate and some f key17:03
wfps_105foound it17:03
wfps_105nVidia NV20 Ti200 64MB  (lol)17:03
o0Chris0o:)17:03
wfps_105but it has been running XP17:04
o0Chris0odid you enable the proprioter drivers?17:04
wfps_105so I don't think that's the problem, but I don't know :P17:04
wfps_105(geForce 3 xD)17:05
o0Chris0ogo to kmenu>system>Hardware drivers manager and make sure its enabled17:05
wfps_105kmenu?17:05
wfps_105bios?17:06
o0Chris0oare you logged onto KDE?17:06
wfps_105wtf KDE? xD17:06
wfps_105Ubuntu won't start17:06
wfps_105just getting a black screen with a blinking _ on the left upper corner17:06
ForgeAuswhy are you in #Kubuntu if your asking about Ubuntu?... theres an #ubuntu for that17:07
wfps_105after all bios info17:07
wfps_105oh17:07
geekwfps_105: try the other virtual terminals?17:07
wfps_105but.. there were too many ppl =/17:07
ForgeAuswfps looks like grub isn't intsalled for you correctly btw17:07
wfps_105noone was answering17:07
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ForgeAus!grub17:07
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto17:07
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ForgeAus(this may help... or may not)17:07
wfps_105ok17:08
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ForgeAusuh? did you paste it correctly?17:09
zanberdoI'm running kubuntu hardy and I'd like to change the default Documents folder to documents.  If I merely rename the folder, the system menu shortcut in my applet panel which points to Documents fails.  How can I point the system menu to the new documents?17:10
wfps_105yeah ,the other link worked :)17:10
wfps_105The system Flash ROM has been corrupted"17:10
wfps_105uh... Gonna try to find any solution, thanks for all your help anyway!'17:12
brewmasteranyone recommend a cheap printer that works flawlessly in kubuntu?17:13
o0Chris0o!printer17:14
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows17:14
zanberdoit appears that system menu derives the list of available menus from /usr/share/apps/systemview where I have found documents.desktop.  Looking at documents.desktop reveals a call to kio_system_documenthelper which is a script that resides in /usr/bin.  This script in turn calls kde-config to echo the "installation path" for the user folder documents.17:19
zanberdoThis leaves me wondering: how do I change the "installation path" for documents from Documents to documents?17:19
steven__hello steven!17:22
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steven__whats up?17:23
juanadolfodsd17:23
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juanadolfoanth17:23
juanadolfothe17:23
juanadolfogays17:23
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stevenhi steven__!17:23
Jucato!guidelines | juanadolfo17:24
ubottujuanadolfo: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines17:24
stevenwhats up?17:24
juanadolfo:O17:24
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juanadolfo_kksl17:24
o0Chris0owhat is the name for the windows font package?17:26
stdin!font17:27
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer17:27
o0Chris0oty17:28
aaroncampbellWhere can I set printer margins on FireFox 3.0.1 on Linux?  I thought I used to go to "File->Page Setup" but that doesn't have margins anymore.  On my windows computer, 3.0.1 DOES have margins there, so it's only on my Kubuntu machine17:29
cosmofieldhi, can anyone please help me, I have installed kubuntu alternate with command line system only and later 'sudo apt-get install kdebase' but kde won't start with 'startx' command, what have I missed? :/17:31
stdinany reason you installed a command-line system then KDE?17:32
geekcosmofield: try installing kdm?17:32
cosmofieldbecause I want to select only the programs that I use, not openoffice aso17:32
surgyhello17:34
cosmofieldthx, I will try that :)17:35
surgyI turned my computer off last night, and when i turned it back on just now my resolution is set at 640x480, and that as high as it says it supports. I have a geforce 8800gt using envy.17:35
surgydo i just need to reinstall my video card? and why did this happen?17:36
o0Chris0odid you enable your proprioter drivers?17:37
geek!envy17:37
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk17:37
geek>_> last i remembered envy was 'no don't use it ever' o017:37
surgyso should i uninstall it?17:37
surgyif so how do i do it?17:38
stdinuse the Hardware Drivers Manager if you can, only if that fails try envyng (if you really want to)17:38
surgystdin: i allready used envy. how do i get rid of it so i can use the hardware drivers manager?17:38
stdinI have no idea, I've never used it17:39
o0Chris0otry googlin it, or go to the website you installed it from, should have instructions17:40
surgylol i dont install things from websites :)17:41
zanberdosorry to repeat this question, but I've had to reload a different irc client, so I am reposting (and rewording) my question from 10 miuntes ago. Again, sorry for the duplication.17:42
zanberdo have been working with kde via kubuntu hardy for the last few months.  I want to change the user documents path from /home/user/Documents to /home/user/documents.  Specifically with respect to the System Menu applet in the applet panel.  I've found that the System Menu applet lists paths based on .desktop files found in /usr/share/apps/systemview.  I have looked at documents.desktop and find it's path is set by17:42
zanberdo /usr/bin/kio_system_documenthelper which get's the path to /home/user/Documents from kde-config --userpath documents.  This is where my trail ends.  kde-config states that it outputs installation paths.  So - how do I change the installation path for /home/user/Documents to /home/user/documents?17:43
zanberdonote: I realize I could merely replace the path in documents.desktop to reflect my personal path, but that would not solve the problem with dolphin, which I suspect also uses the installation path when displaying the bookmark to documents, nor would it resolve the issue for other users...17:43
jussi01zanberdo: just amke a symbolic link...17:45
zanberdojussi01: ok - however, where am I making this symlink? As I stated, I can easily edit the documents.desktop file to point to whatever path I wish, but it won't solve the issue of where kde-config points.17:48
jussi01zanberdo: from /home/user/Documents to /home/user/documents17:49
jussi01so when it looks at the first, its redirected to the second...17:50
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zanberdojussi01: yes, that could work. it's a bit of a kluge though....17:50
jussi01true..17:51
zanberdojussi01: I've found (with a suggestion from #kde) that kcontrol -> system administrion -> paths exposes the installation path I seek.17:52
phoenixzIs there anybody here who knows if there is work being done on knetwork manager and / or adept manager? (if possible, for KDE4 even??) thing is.. they.. the idea is great, but the implementation barely works, and is very problematic at best.. specially the knetwork manager.. Any hopes on newer versions of those??17:52
zanberdoI take it you have specific issues you'd like to see added/fixed?17:52
zanberdojussi01: the equivelant location in System Settings is about me -> pathes...17:53
zanberdojussi01: in case you where curious... since kcontrol is not defined in k menu for kubuntu...17:53
phoenixzzanberdo: well.. first off, a KDE4 specific implementation would be cool :) adept-manager could use a bit more cleaner layout.. stability is a great point too for that package!! Its too easy to have it crash17:54
phoenixzzanberdo: knetworkmanager.. well, just check google :) there is a plethora of problems there..17:54
phoenixzzanberdo: misterious disconnects, crashes, etc etc etc..17:55
ns8#kubuntu-es17:55
zanberdophoenixz: well, I don't use adept-manager gui - I use the cli and haven't ever had an issue.  As for knetworkmanager, I only use it to connect to wireless networks and find it works adequately, but that's just me.17:55
phoenixzzanberdo: well.. Lets just say that the average joe user doesnt want to use the command line, they want the app :) and if it keeps crashing, they'll run back crying to windows...18:00
BeefotronXahoyy18:00
FuriousGeorgehey all.  im trying to install the closed nvidia drivers.  i do an apt-get --install nvidia-glx and i dont get the module file:  nvidia.ko18:05
zanberdophoenixz: this speaks to a much bigger issue.  Firstly, application stability is crutial no matter the users level of understanding, so there is no debate there - and application should work well.  However, there is the other issue you mention regarding users running back to windows.  At what point should we in the community stop caring?  Yes, we'd all like to see linux a success, and for those of us who use it (and have used18:06
zanberdoit for years) we can be proud of the strides that have been made.  But at what point to we have to say enough is enough? If windows users want to use windows, let them.  Just as mac uses will use mac.  linux users choose to use linux for a variety of reasons and we've come to expect that if something is broken we have an opportunity to fix it (unlike windows and mac users).  At the very least we have an obligation to open bugs18:06
zanberdowith the developers of a specific applicaiton if we've found a flaw to help the developers write solutions.  Have you researched the specific issues you have with adept-manager and/or knetworkmanager to see if anyone has reported the probelms, and if not have you yourself reported them?18:06
stdinFuriousGeorge: install linux-restricted-modules18:06
zanberdoFuriousGeorge: apt-get install nvidia-glx-new I should think would solve the issue.  Which nvidia card do you have installed?18:08
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FuriousGeorgezanberdo: nvidia 73000 as per lspi18:15
FuriousGeorgei hadnt install linux restricted like stdin said18:16
FuriousGeorgeand i was doing nvidia-glx, not nvidia-glx-new18:16
Bikerbobanyone help me change the device I need to use in Xorg.conf to get my video going?18:16
jav_hola18:18
zanberdoFuriousGeorge: I'm running the 7600 and had previously installed the 7300.  I'm running kubuntu hardy and I merely installed nvidia-glx-new which did the trick.  The restricted drivers module should install the nvidia driver, as well as any other restricted modules you require (for say wireless, etc).18:19
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zanberdoFuriousGeorge: you may still need to configure xorg.conf however.  You might need to installed nvidia-xconfig, running it, then remove it and install nvidia-settings (that's if nvidia-xconfig didn't get installed when you install nvidia-glx-new18:20
FuriousGeorgezanberdo: i see.  well i installed both just to be safe before i saw what you said.  xorg.conf is working now18:20
tobor_!wiki18:21
zanberdoFuriousGeorge: very good.  You should not be able to user nvidia-settings to configure it.  Be sure to run it as sudo or your changes will not be written to xorg.conf18:21
ubottuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.18:21
FuriousGeorgenow i gotta find out why my ltsp clients boot to the initramfs prompt :)18:21
tobor_FuriousGeorge: they stop there?18:21
tobor_FuriousGeorge: #ltsp cam help you18:23
tobor_*can18:23
xomp!purekde18:25
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »18:25
k_laushello . after update kde wont start but stays black (intrepid) ... :(18:27
k_laushas anybody any idea?18:28
stdinintrepid help in #ubuntu+118:28
FuriousGeorgetobor_: yeah, i was about to ask in there...  hmmm...  wokring now for some reason18:30
FuriousGeorgeall i did was reboot server when i stopped messing with ltsp and started with nvidia18:31
FuriousGeorgei rule!  :)18:32
FuriousGeorgewahwahweewah, even sound works18:35
FuriousGeorgegotta hand it to you *buntus18:36
xomp hello, I'm getting this error when starting up eclipse, can someone point me to where I can find this file? A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations: /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/bin/java18:37
trappist!java18:40
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper18:40
Tm_Troot: are we rooted now?18:40
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xompthanks trappist :)18:41
o0Chris0oby any chance anyone know how to remove the Bookmark toolbar on firefox 3.018:50
crimsuno0Chris0o: remove or not display?18:51
crimsuno0Chris0o: if the latter, View> Toolbars> uncheck Bookmarks Toolbar18:51
o0Chris0othat will work too :)18:52
o0Chris0oty18:52
o0Chris0ogo figure, always the simple things lol18:52
ActionParsniphey all18:59
ActionParsnipive just removed compiz and have no default window decorators18:59
ActionParsniphow can I get them back please18:59
o0Chris0oI used to remember, its been awhile19:01
o0Chris0otry the compiz channel if no one replies here19:01
o0Chris0o!compiz19:01
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion19:01
dekansActionParsnip: in system->preferences->appearance, try to deactivate desktop effetcs19:02
dekanshum19:02
dekans#kubuntu :p19:02
dekansso19:02
dekansyou must have a kde-desktop-effects19:03
dekansor something like that, try it in a konsole19:03
ActionParsnipill just install fluxbox, tried and tested :D19:05
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DreadKnighthow the heck do i install deb files in kubuntu kde4 mix ?19:12
dannyCan someone PLEASE help a noob?19:12
Tm_T!helpme19:13
ubottuAvoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience19:13
dannyI can't install any tar ed packages19:13
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pgibanyone know the ubuntu repos for kde-4 SVN? I thought http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu was it, but it seems frozen on 4.119:13
Tm_Tpgib: there is none IIRC19:13
Tm_T!build19:13
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)19:13
dannythanks. I'll read and try19:14
ActionParsnipahh much better19:14
pgibhmm. usually don't mind installing software from souce19:14
pgibbut I'll probably screw someting up if I try to manage all of KDE myself. thanks though ubottu19:14
pgibI guess I will have to wait for 4.2....19:15
pgibI mean, Tm_T19:15
Haxxazhello what is best for gaming ubuntu ore kubuntu19:16
Tm_THaxxaz: whatever suits you best19:17
Haxxazoh19:17
Daisuke_Idothe only difference is the default desktop environment and a few of the included apps19:17
Haxxazok19:18
dannyHas anyone here tried running two audio cards? I have a Soundblaster live and an onboard AC97 chip. Oddly enough it's the Onboard that won't work19:18
dannyforums have left me dazed and confused.19:18
Haxxazyesterday i did install wine on kubuntu and i lagged ass hell19:19
Frekuyeah i got the same thing19:19
Frekuonboard doesnt work19:19
Haxxazand in ubuntu wine dosent lag19:19
dannyI'm gonna try the driver from Realtek but it's been fighting me for ten hours straight19:20
Frekui stopped trying19:20
Freku:)19:20
dannylol... I'll keep ya posted19:20
Haxxazany 1 now why19:20
Haxxazi like kubuntu but i most game in it19:20
pgibHaxxaz: try turning off desktop effects?19:21
pgibwould be an interesting variable19:21
Haxxazi only have standard i havent instaled tings like beryl19:22
pgibHaxxaz: Beryl is out of date anyways19:22
pgibHaxxaz: I'm talking about kwin's desktop effects19:22
Haxxazcompis fusion i dident remember the name19:22
Haxxazhow do i turn it off19:23
Haxxazi em new to whole linux thing19:23
pgibSystem Settings19:23
Haxxazand19:23
pgiband look for it19:23
dannySame here.... Been in it 24 hours... Can't stand having EVERYTHING come through headphone19:23
pgibbtw, what game are you trying to run? most new stuff will be slow or not work at all in Linux19:23
pgibIt's not really designed for running Window's games as  of yet19:24
Haxxazwow in whine 3dmark patch19:24
Haxxazwine*19:24
Haxxazi have a shared hdd whit 2 partisions c and d if i delete c and install kubuntu on it is my d drive deleted as vell19:25
pgibno19:25
Haxxazall my importent files is on d drive19:25
Haxxazok19:25
pgibunless you rearrange your partition sizes19:25
Haxxazok19:26
Haxxazshall i sett it up manuell19:26
pgibI usually use fdisk and mkfs.ext2 or mkfs.resiser19:26
pgibbut, you probably want a graphical tool. I think KDE has one in System Settings19:27
Haxxazit is 2 ntfs drives19:27
Haxxazdev/sda1 and dev/sda2 what is c and d19:27
pgibOK19:27
pgiband you want to delete the filesystem on  sda1 and make it what?19:28
Haxxazyea19:28
pgibthat isn't an answer19:28
pgibwhat file system are you wanting to change sda1 into?19:28
Haxxazi want my c drive to be kubuntu becuse all my files is on d19:28
dannyOkay so an update on the AC97 drivers..... Following directions does not work... lol19:29
pgibHaxxaz:19:30
Haxxaz?19:30
Haxxazcan wee take this in pm19:31
pgibok.. well technically you can just use  mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda119:31
Haxxazin termilan19:31
pgibthat will remove your C: and replace it with a linux partition19:31
Haxxazterminal19:31
pgibthen you need to add it to your /etc/fstab19:32
pgibanyways - I'm getting back to work. That should be enough info for you19:32
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Haxxazyea thanks i can open my d drive on live cd is that a good thing19:32
pgibwhy would that be bad?19:33
Haxxazduno i em new to linux so youst asking19:33
pgibhehe -- livecd will try and mount as much stuff as possible19:33
pgibI guess you need to do: umount /dev/sda1  before running mkfs.ext319:33
Haxxazok19:33
pgibor look online for how to create one in the GUI19:33
pgibI have no idea - never used it personally19:34
Haxxazok thanks mate19:34
krageranyone else running into the perl problems doing a dist-upgrade to alpha5 from hardy?19:34
pgibtriple-check that you are working with the right partition before running those comamands. You don't want to clobber something important19:34
Haxxazno19:34
stdinkrager: intrepid help in #ubuntu+119:35
dannyso running the config on these drivers I get to "Checking for kernel version... 0.0.0"19:35
Haxxazthank u wery mutch pgib19:35
dannyThe next line line reads checking for GCC version ... ./configure: 2735: Bad Substitution19:36
kragerHaxxaz, qtparted is on the kubuntu live cd, that is a nice GUI for ppartitioning and formatting19:36
dannyanyone got any ideas at all?19:36
pgibkrager: thanks, thats the tool I was thinking about19:36
kragerpgib, I use it as a last resort, gparted is a lot better I think, but it's not on the cd19:37
sourcemakerjoin kubuntu-de19:41
sourcemakerjoin #kubuntu-de19:41
pgibkrager: but fdisk and friends is the best ;-)19:42
krageroh yes, but for basic stuff GUI is diable19:43
kragerdoable19:43
kragerdanny: what drivers?19:43
pgibyeah, something can be said about representing it graphically19:43
arminretesdt19:44
kragertest failed, extra d19:44
sourcemakerwhat is the best professional finance application for ubuntu with hcbi support?19:46
kkathmanwhen you are attempting to share a folder, and you click to start the applet, Im getting that it failed to start...but no error...how to fix this ??19:47
krageryou can right click on a folder to share it, the share option is on one of the tabs19:49
kkathmankrager but ONLY the files in your home directory which is stupid19:49
krageroh sorry, misread the q19:49
kragerkkath: no it's not, you can share any you have permission for19:50
dannyI take it it's not normal to get tossed back to login?19:50
krageror allow to be shared, but basic security means, do not share odd stuff19:50
kkathmankrager IF you can get the applet to start19:50
kkathmanotherwise you get a message that says you can only share things in your home folder19:51
krageryes, you basically d not have permissions to share folders outside your home19:52
kkathmanthats just stupid19:52
kkathmanso I have to be root to set the sharing then19:53
kragerI think it os a lot more secure, nothing to stop you elevating your user account to have full access everywhere19:53
kkathmanI kinda refuse to believe that I cannot share anything I want to19:53
kragerwhat are you wanting to share?  what directory19:54
kragerI just share all my stuff by logging in using fish in konqueror, gives me full access and no need to create shares19:55
bobbo85Can I have both amarok and amarok beta installed at the same time?19:58
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krageris amarok beta available as a deb?19:59
bobbo85iiiii think so, i don't remember how i got it installed to be honest19:59
bobbo85i think i downloaded a deb though19:59
kragerif it's amarok 2 beta, you can in hardy, dunno about intrepid19:59
kragerin hardy kde4 and stuff is installed in /opt rather than under /usr20:00
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stdin!neon20:00
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE for more | Support and questions should be directed to the #amarok.neon channel20:00
cosmofieldhi again, I still have problem with my alternate install, I now have kde-core and kdm installed but when I boot the computer, I must log in manually, and when i enter the  'startx' command, then I got an error message such as 'unable to lock Xauthority', any ideas? I tried do a full install but the system freezed at 91% with a 'please wait...' message so I must use a console installation :/20:02
kkathmankrager - Im trying to share, at the moment, a directory in my local webserver so I can copy (backup) the files from there to another computer20:03
kkathmanthe webserver is in /var/www/htdocs/<mydomain>20:03
kkathmanso I want to move all those to another computer20:04
krageris the other computer Linux?20:04
kkathmannope windows20:04
kkathmanI think I'll just ln -s that directory to the home folder20:04
kkathmanthen I can copy it20:05
kragerwell, that folder will be owned by www20:05
kragershame  it's a wondows box, ssh and fish would have been ideal, the way I would do it is just zip up the contents and transfer like that20:08
kkathmanwell krager  there are other kinds of computers in the world :)20:09
kkathmansigh... mixed environments20:10
kragerunfortunately ones that do not talk very well to others20:10
kragerhave you tried making yourself a memeber of the www group under users and groups settings?20:10
Frekuuse samba ?20:17
ronnie_hi linux buddys =)20:17
martin__Hi Im new to Kubuntu and I was wondering if it's possible to install firefox3 or opera in a KDE environnement20:18
krageryes20:19
kragerif you go to adept and search for firefox, it will install for you20:19
kragergo to the opera website and it will have a deb file, dl it and click on it and it will install20:20
ronnie_is ubuntu suppose tobe more stable than kubuntu?, also any use ubuntu/kubuntu studio?, is it stable?20:20
martin__ok, but i only see firefox 1 and 220:20
kragerwhat version of kubuntu do you have?20:20
martin__i just tried it gave me a corrupted file20:20
martin__8.0420:21
ronnie_same here kubuntu 8.0420:21
kragercan you try this?  open the konsole and type 'sudo apt-get install firefox'20:21
kragerubuntu / kubuntu are they same, just different desktops20:22
o0Chris0odifferent flavors oo la la20:22
martin__wont that get me firefox 1?20:23
ronnie_ok thx some guy just told me ubuntu with gnome desktop was more stable, ty again20:23
kragerdefault is 3 in 8.0420:23
kragerit's down to taste, what desktop you like, nothing to stop you having KDE and Gnome installed, I do20:24
martin__ok will try, and I just redownloaded opera and got the file xxxxxxxxxxx is a binary and saving it will result in corruption20:24
kragerright click and save as on the link20:24
ronnie_thx again krager, so kubuntu studio is the same just tons more media programs, hmmm, hope it has the same kewl games like hardyheroin = )20:26
martin__ok thx for the firefox bit worked like a charm\20:26
krageryou can also install the ubuntu studio as well20:26
ronnie_ya gu4ess 80gigs is lots of room I don't even have 25% of it used = )20:27
ronnie_i'm avoiding kde4 , cause i will just load 8.10 oct 30th (hopefully) anyway, but I do have an older 2gig desktop maybe ill try it for something todo this friday night =)20:30
kragerI am updating a PC to intrepid at the moment20:31
kragerand having a few beers while it chugs away20:31
ronnie_thx again krager, now i won't have to burn a cd only to discover it's the same kubuntu/ubuntu, oh but it is alpha still plenty-O-bugs~! hehe20:32
kragerI used to run debian sid, so I am used to things going wonky, besides I like to try and fix bugs, helps you get to know the system20:33
Bauldrickis system-cleaner in hardy?20:34
ronnie_kubuntu has worked great for me!, my webcam automatically worked, my midi plug hooked to my keyboard (musical), almost everything except.....the dreaded dvd's haha20:35
kragerno package called system-cleaner I can see20:35
kragerronnie, have you added the medibuntu repositories?20:36
ronnie_as always it says you need = libdvdss something program installed, no I don't thing i did20:36
kragergo to http://www.medibuntu.org/ and follow the instructions20:38
ronnie_k thx ill try it = )20:38
kragerif you are a musician, you will like a lot of other stuff there20:38
ronnie_hmm kewl is it like ubuntu studio stuff?20:39
ronnie_i bookmarked it20:39
kragerno, stuff that cannot be in the main ubuntu for legal reasons20:41
ronnie_ok kewl ill check it out, you know anything about adding a second hdd to a system?, like how to set the jumper switches? master/slave etc...20:42
martin__hi it's me again I need to get flash witch version sould i get the tar.gz, the .rpm or the YUM?20:42
kragersudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree20:44
krageror use adept to find it20:44
martin__ok20:45
lawi_toshiba wireless? Anyone?20:45
kragerkubuntu does not use yum or rpm's20:45
kragerdo you know what chipset your toshiba has?20:46
martin__thx again20:47
lawi_yap. intel 965gm20:47
ronnie_i tried playing a trial game through wine, "world of warcraft" is seem to load ok till I tried to actually play, it showed sub menu's like (map) (weapons) (quest list) etc...but whole view screen was bright pink~!! how gay!, any get that game to work?20:48
kragerno, but HL2, couterstrike, guildwars works for me (that's kinda all I play)20:49
ronnie_oh ya you reminded me I forgot to bookmark a sight that had good games that work well under ubuntu, =)20:50
ronnie_ill search for it again20:50
Bauldrickronnie_: you hook your keyboard up to pc, you/anyone know of piano lesson software like in that other OS20:51
kragerwinehq, under the app database? if it's games under wine20:51
ronnie_not really Bauldrick I just searched for freeware/shareware musical keyboard software, even found some worked with wine cause they were exe. windows programs = )20:54
ronnie_im useing a M-audio plug, midi to usb, just lucky it worked ok under the timidy program in kubuntu = )20:56
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ronnie_thats what I'll do tonight, try out kubuntu studio, kde4 or 8.10 intrepid, lmao@ hearing the next versions possible name "jaunty jakalope" too stupid too be taken seriously as usual haha21:00
kragerwill 9.04 be Killer Koala?21:01
krager9.1021:01
ronnie_i do love linux!!, just like to smack the guy who comes up with thoses names! hehe, hmmm didn't see that when searching maybe21:01
kragerMark Shuttleworth comes up with them21:03
ronnie_diverting satalite warhead to tracking his location now...beep!...beep!....lol21:04
kragerI like them21:04
ronnie_some are ok i guess, =)  & whats in a name or some famous saying like that haha21:05
pgibWhat is wrong Adept??? I search for simple stuff in it and the packages do not show up21:06
pgibbut I can install them from the command line.. What gives?21:06
kragerpgip, I ditched adept and installed synaptic, it's much better21:07
pgibfor example: I search for "flash" and flashplayer-nonfree doesn't show up21:07
ronnie_the new system usually does amaze me with tons of kewl software, come on intrepid, ooo can't wait, = )21:07
krager8.04 ditched a lot of software I was using, mainly GIS stuff21:08
ronnie_ya know sometimes I'm srry when i update, last one I did somehow stopped my limewire music software from working = (  , guess ill have to reinstall, np21:09
kragerThat's why I will not be updating my laptop until about Xmas as I need it everyday and want to make sure everything is right before I do21:10
pgibthey should just remove adept since it is totally dysfunctional21:10
kragerI is getting better21:10
kragers/I/It21:11
ronnie_like the saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it!, i might just use what works & never update, I don't really care bout security, viruses, etc, I just don't ever open emails I didn't ask for =)21:13
Bauldrickwheres yer sense of adventure21:13
kragerlol21:13
Bauldrick:)21:13
ronnie_ya well its usually, youve! just! won! a brand new laptop! click here! lol21:14
kragerForward them to a webmail account and ask if you can check you email using a friends windows pc21:14
ronnie_ya true hehe21:14
seba!es21:15
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:15
mifaunahello21:15
macohey guys, can anyone reproduce bug 270750 for me?21:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 270750 in kdebase "OpenOffice with KDE 3 behaves like saving will overwrite another file, even though there's the automatic file extension" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27075021:16
Bauldrickmifauna: hi21:18
bbussmaco: Yep, i can reproduce it here21:20
macobbuss: want to mark it confirmed so you can add it to your 5-a-day?21:20
bbussmaco: i don't have an 5-a-day :P (Just new here =])21:21
pesepesirc.freenode.net21:21
macobbuss: ok i'll mark it21:22
pesepes canale IRC #ubuntu-it-doc nel server irc.freenode.net.21:22
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ofvmy monitor turns black after some time of inactivity. after some more time, the monitor goes o power-saving mode. I have no screens-saver, nor power-savings settings.21:28
ofvwhat could cause this?21:29
kragerofv: default settings, go into the system settings and change them to your desire21:30
ofvthanks krager, but as I've explained, the screen saver is disabled on "System settings"->"Desktop"->"Screen saver"21:31
ofvor there is some other place where to look?21:31
kragerdo you have any laptop features installed, power manager etc.21:33
administrator_hey all21:33
kragerklaptop or similar, that will turn off the screen21:34
administrator_i just recently installed the nvidia binary kernel module.  everything worked great, until i restarted just now and the nvidia.ko file is missing21:34
ofvkrager: no. this is not a laptop.21:34
kragerI think it gets installed by default21:34
administrator_if i try to modprobe manually im told it should be in /lib/modules/'uname -r'/volitile (or something21:34
Gladyvolitile21:35
Gladylike in chicken?21:35
administrator_anyway, i know i successfully had it working before, but the module appears to have disappeared randomly after this last reboot21:35
administrator_if i apt-get install nvidia-glx-new or linux-restricted-drivers, even after i purge them, i dont get it back21:36
administrator_but perhaps even more concerning is that the file would just disappear...  i checked my raid array, which is fine21:37
kragerdid you install the driver by hand, try using envy21:37
Gladynvidia21:37
administrator_krager: envy?21:37
krageryou probably forgot to link them, I have not used nvidia drivers for years21:37
edoceoI run 'sudo aptitude install openvpn' in a shell script, under an if statement.  However, it seems that the script continues before aptitude is done21:37
Gladynvidia envy raid21:38
edoceoAnyone see something funny like that?  Is there some double forking in aptitude?21:38
kragerif you install a package called envyng-qt, it should auto install the latest drivers for nvidia or ati and do it alll properly21:38
administrator_krager: thanks, ill try that21:38
administrator_krager: installing it now...  the hardware manager that installed with kde crashed with a sig11 out of the box, since then ive had issues getting this working21:40
administrator_krager: thanks that worked.  (i think).  it says is should restart so ill do that, rather than just manually load the module and restart X21:42
administrator_just in case21:42
administrator_so i gotta run, thanks again21:42
bbbshello21:44
jasiekmarchi21:44
bbbsi have windows xp and vista installed on my computer. i figured kubuntu would detect my partitions during the install. but i'm at a screen that gives me two options. use entire disk and manual. when selecting manual it doesnt show my other partitions21:45
bbbsi have about 5 partitions all ntfs21:46
bbbsunder manual it shows /dev/sda with format blank. it lumped all my partitions into one and doesn't know the format?21:46
bbbshow's kde 4.0021:54
kragerkde4.00 is old, 4.1.1 is shaping up very nice21:54
pesepes#kubuntu-it21:55
kragerbbbs, if you just want to try kubuntu, use the wubi option, installs it as an app in windoze21:56
pesepes#ubuntu-it-chat21:57
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FirefisheIs kubuntu's synaptic able to be used in a stock debian install?  I much prefer kubuntu's synaptic over stock debian's, and kubuntu's has it's repositories available for selection via a list.  I'd like to set up my stock debian synaptic this way.  Tried asking in #debian, but all I got was info on cron jobs for switching my sources.list file at certain times...weird.21:57
bbussFirefishe: "Kubuntu's synaptics" is Adept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept_Package_Manager21:58
kragerI would say no.  but you can get the source code for each and compile it yourself21:58
Firefishebbuss:  oh, i see.  Is synaptic then just being used for a front-end to adept in the newest  ubuntus?21:59
Firefisheor has it been deprecated completely?>21:59
bbussFirefishe: No... Adept and Synaptic, both are a front-end to apt.22:00
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bbussAnyway.... Debian has a package for adept: http://packages.debian.org/etch/adept22:00
bbussSo i think it should work :P22:01
krageradept and synaptic are two different apps, synaptic is gnome, adept KDE, I prefer synaptic to adept22:01
alexey__hello22:01
bbusshi22:01
Firefishekrager:  okay, I guess that the ubuntu developers in charge of creating the synaptic package for the ubuntus probably wrote in some new code for the menu system to use it for listing repositories.  Synaptic would be what then?  GTK built?22:02
krageryes22:03
kragerAs I said, you can get the source code and compile it yourself22:03
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Firefishekrager:  thanks22:07
Firefishebye for now22:07
reinis_guys22:09
reinis_who can help me with installing skype and setting up on ubuntu 8.04?22:09
kragerreinis, use the medibuntu repos and install it from there22:10
kragerreinis: http://www.medibuntu.org/22:10
ghostcube_reinis_: or just load it from skype.com22:12
ghostcube_:D22:12
ghostcube_developer.skype.com/LinuxSkype22:12
reinis_well, guys im new in linux, I still havent figured out where to put those configs and all that stuff :/.22:14
reinis_If i knew, I would do it myself, but im just learning, i installed ubuntu today. :/22:14
reinis_and i have 64b version22:14
reinis_:(22:15
kragerif you go to that website and follow the how-to it os very easy22:15
reinis_ok22:15
ActionParsnip!envyng | ActionParsnip22:16
reinis_wow, thanks!22:16
reinis_btw guys, can u recomend me a nice page for ubuntu begginers, for example how to add the 3dcube thingy, how to install apps trough code, and such must-know stuff?22:19
ActionParsnip!compiz | reinis_22:19
SOTIAsking question already said over nine thousand times: How can I stop kopete from autostarting?22:20
kragerright click on it on the system tray and quit, it will not start the next time you log in.22:21
ActionParsnipSOTI: cd ~/.kde/Autostart or cd ~/.kde4/share/Autostart22:21
histoOkay trying to connect to tightvncserver via a java browser crashes the vnc server. It closes the process and leaves the tmp files in /tmp. I'm getting an error of Window manager warning: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable on display ':1'. in the logs for tightvnc?  Looking for any ideas22:21
qweqwehello22:25
qweqwewhen I go to console from kde login manager, how do I get back?22:25
ActionParsnipSOTI: thats where atoload stuff lives22:26
Gladysottise22:27
kragerqweqwe alt+f7 I think, but don't quote me22:28
qweqwekrager: tried that, didn't work22:29
kragerqweqwe: I forget how, but 'killall -9 kdm' and then 'kdm' shuld work22:29
qweqwekrager: alright, thanks.22:30
kragerqweqwe: It's not a nice way, but will work22:30
ActionParsnipqweqwe: take the easy way, just reboot22:33
* PriceChild cheers22:38
qweqweActionParsni: one of the reasons I switched to Linux is that I don't have to reboot my computer zilions of time becacuse of stupid things.22:40
poon[Mass Message] If any clients need help with anything before I go out of town for the weekend, let me know within 2.5 minutes.22:49
zipperIs a server install of (k)ubuntu just the base system, without the "ubuntu-desktop" package (and all the apps) or does it install apache, ftpd and stuff as well if i chose 'server'?22:52
azizzipper: i'm not sure, but I don't think it installs apache by default.22:55
kragerthe server package is headless (no GUI) but does have apache, exim, ftp etc.22:56
RichardBHhi - does anyone have any experience installing kubuntu on an Acer Aspire 5920?22:56
azizmy GTK apps are not properly themed (just plain ugly). Firefox for example wasn't like that before. Don't know what I did or what I installed. Anybody got an idea how to fix this?22:56
zipperhmm, i see23:01
zipperbasicly what i want, is the awesome hardware detection of ubuntu, but none of the apps or window managers. Is that somehow possible?23:02
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dekanszipper: during the installation of ubuntu server, you have the choice to install or not apache, bind9, .... etc23:12
zipperah great23:12
zipperthanks23:12
bruno_hay algun friki por aki?23:28
bruno_all23:30
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DexterFhi23:35
DexterFdvdcss prob with kaffeine: installed libdvdcss from mkedibuntu still kaffeine wont play encrypted discs. how come?23:36
cosmofieldHi ^_^23:36
DexterF(smplyer plays it btw)23:36
cosmofieldIs there a font manager for kde avaiable? I have many fonts installed that I don't use. :/23:36
zippermight not be very (k)ubuntu'ish, but i never liked kaffeine at all. I prefer using mplayer or vlc23:37
DexterFzipper: not helping. kaffeine is required and I have to deal with it.23:38
zipperrequired? How so?23:39
zipperand yeah, im aware it's not really solving your problem, but noone else answered you so i figured i'd share my experience23:39
DexterFwell I'm setting the machine up for someone else, not me so I thought I go with the "all KDE apps" approach rahter. plus kaff got better usability imo23:41
zipperI think thats a stupid approach when there are better alternatives. I mean, you could set up kubuntu to use vlc as the default application for playing video and if your friend is a linux newbie i doubt he would even notice (or care)23:43
zipperchances are he/she even knows vlc from windows which would make the transition easier23:44
Githzeraizipper: vlc depends on non-free codecs so will neve be in Ubuntu by default. Same with (S)mplayer23:44
zipperseeing how he's setting it up for someone else, i doubt that person would care about that23:44
zipperit Just Works(tm)23:45
zipperalso... installing libdvdcss? Then he definately dont care about using non-free software23:46
DexterFzipper: im not here to discuss what you regard stupid. need kaffeien going, colon.23:46
zipperokay fair enough23:47
xompwhat is the name of the KControl package for KDE? I apparently don't have it installed :S23:48
zipperxomp, im pretty sure its included in the kubuntu-desktop package (which you should have by default)23:49
xompyeah I just ran "kcontrol" from the command line and it started, just I have no listing for it in my menu's which is a pain :(23:50
Githzeraixomp: it's systemsettings, which is just a reorganised kcontrol23:51
zipperxomp, kcontrol is not as streamlined as <insert default here> which is why its not in the menu23:52
xompGithzerai, ahh thanks :)23:52
zipperthat said, it usually have the stuff you want/need unlike the default23:52

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