[00:00] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/WDDisk -o force
[00:00] <ubuntu_> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[00:00] <ubuntu_> WARNING: Forced mount, reset $LogFile.
[00:00] <ubuntu_> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/WDDisk: No such file or directory
[00:00] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[00:00] <ubuntu_> eeh
[00:00] <jerry_> it pulled up to dolphins
[00:00] <qwerdy> LeeJunFan: I added the windows' ip to the linux's route table, and I gave "1.2.3.4" to the linux's secondary ip, and added it to the windows' route
[00:00] <qwerdy> now "\\1.2.3.4" works from the windows!
[00:00] <mn> ubuntu_ | paste
[00:00] <favro> jerry_: so no errors?
[00:01] <jerry_> ok so it still says it couldnt pull up file system in root media stuff
[00:01] <ubuntu_> help mee out here
[00:01] <jerry_> it does tell me how much free space i have
[00:01] <ubuntu_> i did get it by my self
[00:01] <jerry_> but ill try copying something into it
[00:01] <favro> jerry_: k
[00:01] <qwerdy> LeeJunFan: yep, and I can copy files.. (I wonder how secure it is...)
[00:02] <jerry_> nope cant write stuff
[00:02] <jerry_> to it
[00:02] <_2> ubuntu_ sudo mkdir -p /media/WDDisk
[00:02] <ubuntu_> i did get it thanks
[00:02] <LeeJunFan> well, as long as the traceroute shows IP traffic not going over the GW it should be good.
[00:02] <_2> ubuntu_ then try your command
 kmail is pissing me off.  all in a sudden it isn't using kwallet.  i don't know why.  kwalet is still working with other password
[00:02] <favro> jerry_: gives a permission error?
[00:02] <jerry_> um yeah ill see what it says exactly one sec
[00:03] <ubuntu_> wine dont open my game
[00:03] <ubuntu_> hmm
[00:03] <jerry_> acess denied could not write to /media/stuff/dogpilebar.exe
[00:03] <ubuntu_> its work mohahahaha
[00:03] <favro> jerry_: ok the filesystem error seems harmless? - maybe
[00:04] <jerry_> well does that mean i cant write to it
[00:04] <LeeJunFan> nonewmsgs: in kwallet wallet manager try settings, configure wallet, access control, and make sure kmail is allowed to use the wallet.
[00:04] <jerry_> ?
[00:04] <qwerdy> LeeJunFan: hmm.. if the linux's route is not necessary, I could do it without worrying when the window's gets a new ip
[00:04] <favro> jerry_: sudo umount -v /dev/sdb1 && sudo chown -Rv jerry:jerry /media/stuff
[00:04] <_2> ubuntu_ in linux "error" and "warning" messages are pretty streight forward.    also error or E: generally means "it failed and here is why"   while warning or W: generally means "it succeeded, but you may have trouble with it or something related to it; and here is why"
[00:04] <nonewmsgs> LeeJunFan, kwallet has kmail under always allow
[00:04] <favro> jerry_: then sudo umount -av again
[00:05] <favro> jerry_:  sudo chown -Rv jerry:jerry /media/stuff - jerry is your login name
[00:05] <ubuntu_> my game lags in wine
[00:05] <_2> !winehq
[00:06] <_2> !wine
[00:06] <qwerdy> LeeJunFan: nope.. it cann't even ping 1.2.3.4
[00:06] <LeeJunFan> qwerdy: it might work with only one having the route set. When linux accesses windows the first time it will go over the internet for the syn packet, the windows machine having a route for the linux machine on the LAN will send the linux IP an ICMP redirect telling linux it can reach it directly.
[00:07] <LeeJunFan> hrm, owell.
[00:07] <jerry_> ok then mount everthing again
[00:07] <LeeJunFan> maybe windows doesn't send ICMP redirects? might want to check your firewall settings.
[00:07] <jerry_> ?
[00:07] <LeeJunFan> qwerdy: make sure icmp and redirects are allowed.
[00:07] <_2> i don't think anyone can   ping 1.2.3.4
[00:07] <favro> jerry_: sudo umount -av again
[00:07] <jerry_> ok just did that now what?
[00:07] <qwerdy> LeeJunFan: I turned it off completely
[00:07] <favro> jerry_: it should be writable
[00:08] <qwerdy> LeeJunFan: (the firewall)
[00:08] <jerry_> do i need to mount it again?
[00:08] <favro> jerry_: and be mounted at bott every time
[00:08] <favro> s/btt/boot
[00:08] <favro> bahhh
[00:08] <qwerdy> LeeJunFan: OK, I'll keep playing with it tommorow, it's too late over here. thanks a lot!
[00:08] <LeeJunFan> qwerdy: 1.2.3.4 you mean the real IP of your windows machine?
[00:09] <LeeJunFan> qwerdy: okay, later.
[00:09] <qwerdy> LeeJunFan: it's the secondary ip of the windows
[00:09] <qwerdy> (the one I configured myself)
[00:09] <jerry_> access denied
[00:09] <jerry_> this stinks
[00:09] <ubuntu_> wow dident lag in ubuntu but it does on kubuntu is that normal
[00:10] <dr_willis> Depends.. are you using kde 4 oe 3 ?
[00:10] <favro> jerry_:  sudo chown -Rv jerry:jerry /media/stuff - gave a reply that the ownership was changed?
[00:10] <ubuntu_> how do i check that
[00:10] <jerry_> yes changed ownership of /media/stuff to jerry:jerry
[00:11] <LeeJunFan> qwerdy: I really think you should be able to do this w/o adding IP's to either machine. just route commands.
[00:11] <_2> favro you can't change ownership of things on M$ file systems
[00:11] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  look at wat you installed/disk you used. or use the ' about ' menu item
[00:11] <_2> just a note.
[00:11] <favro> _2: it is ext3
[00:11] <_2> favro k
[00:12] <favro> _2: I gotta go jerry_ needs a hand - busy?
[00:12] <_2> favro if you can catch me up right quick.
[00:12] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  the live cd is not using the  best video card drivers..  you need to do a full install to get best speed
[00:12] <jerry_> i wont be on till later on tonight
[00:13] <mn> anyone here know how to make phi and psi in OO.o Formula editor?
[00:13] <favro> _2frsh format - mounting in fstab /dev/sdb1 /media/stuff - permission errors for write
[00:13] <favro> _2: ^^
[00:13] <_2> favro k.
[00:13] <favro> _2: thnx :)
[00:14] <jerry_> how do i pull up kate and fstab?
[00:14] <LeeJunFan> favro: that's what I was talking about earlier, it's an ext3 filesystem, make a directory on it and chown that dir so the normal user owns it.
[00:14] <LeeJunFan> then he'll be able to write to that dir.
[00:14] <_2> jerry_ kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[00:15] <_2> LeeJunFan or own or mod the root of the fs
[00:15] <ign0ramus> mn: http://tobeprinted.blogspot.com/2007/12/formula-editor-in-open-office-part-3.html
[00:15] <LeeJunFan> yeah, umask it maybe.
[00:15] <_2> no that's vfat/ntfs code
[00:16] <mn> ign0ramus: Thnx!
[00:16] <_2> for real file systems   chown -r $USER /mountpoint      or  chmod -r 777 /mountpoint      will work   neither of those can be done on M$ filesystems so you have to use *mask= options on those
[00:17] <_2> note that even works on the running system    chmod 001 /     for example.
[00:18] <_2> that example hides the listings in the root dir but leaves the system usable
[00:18] <_2> note it will break a few apps that depend on reading /
[00:19] <bleaked> so a recent update has broken gtk2-engines-gtk-qt (or whatever it is) in the sense that none of my gtk apps are integrated into kde..it sucks, it's horribly slow and ugly.. there is no longer a config option in the Appearance & Themes section of kcontrol..
[00:19] <nonewmsgs> are there any good transcodders for mkv (hi def video) to something compatable with standard dvd format?
[00:20] <jerry_> favro what was the command to change ownership to me?
[00:20] <LeeJunFan> _2: okay, so from what I caught of their conversation then jerry_ just needs to chown his mountpoint and he should be good to go.
[00:20] <_2> "standard dvd format" == mpeg3   iirc
[00:21] <_2> LeeJunFan correct,   with the fs mounted.
[00:21] <jerry_> the only trouble is i can see everything but i cant access anything or write to it
[00:21] <LeeJunFan> jerry_: sudo chown jerry.jerry /media/stuff
[00:21] <_2> if the fs is umounted owning the mountpoint does nothing.
[00:21] <nonewmsgs> _2 iirc it's mp2
[00:21] <jerry_> thanks
[00:21] <_2> nonewmsgs k  i can't argue the fact.
[00:22] <nonewmsgs> _2 regardless are there any aps to do that?
[00:22] <_2> !mencoder   ?
[00:23] <jerry_> I DID IT, IT FINALLY WORKS THANKS FAVRO :)
[00:23] <_2> !dvd
[00:23] <jerry_> WITHOUT YOU I WOULDNT HAVE THIS HARDDRIVE WORKING
[00:23] <LeeJunFan> jerry_: is this an internal or a USB drive?
[00:23] <jerry_> INTERNAL
[00:24] <LeeJunFan> okay, good. I would have suggested a different mounting method using UUID's had it been external - you're good to go.
[00:24] <jerry_> YAY its like christmas
[00:24] <jerry_> later everyone.
[00:24] <LeeJunFan> bye
[00:24] <_2> i would sujest another mountpoint for a permanant fs
[00:25] <LeeJunFan> _2: yeah, personally I would too.
[00:25] <_2>  /media is designed for removable and or spuraticly mounted
[00:26] <_2>  /media kinda replaced the standard /mnt
[00:27] <_2> it wasn't intended too.  but did.
[00:27] <LeeJunFan> man kde4 is missing a lot for being a .1.1 release.
[00:27] <LeeJunFan> no printer config, no power saving config to speak of.
[00:28] <Serva> Hey, any database modelers here?
[00:29] <sirius> yes
[00:29] <bleaked> does anyone else have issues with gtk styles in kde as of this weeks updates?
[00:29] <_2> LeeJunFan heh.  yeah i personally thought that they were about to get kde3 up to the point of "stable release"   so they have dropped it....
[00:30] <LeeJunFan> _2: yeah, stable is boring anyway. Unpredictability is exciting computing :)
[00:30] <dr_willis> thats why everyone loves MS!
[00:31] <LeeJunFan> I was about to say that.
[00:31] <Serva> sirius, I have to model and develop a database for my course. Can you give me any recommendations about the topic that I should choose, so that I can learn something new about the domain and perhaps utilize it in my resume. I was thinking to learn about credit risk portfolio database modeling, but looking at the current financial crisis I dropped the idea.
[00:31] <sirius> microshaft!
[00:31] <nonewmsgs> thats not funny i know people who have MS :( poor saps
[00:31] <LeeJunFan> Until you lose work becaue of it anyway, or your windows powered ATM cheats you.
[00:31] <Serva> sirius, music library and banking system are too much overused.
[00:31] <LeeJunFan> are we talking about the software company or the disease?
[00:32] <LeeJunFan> hrm, they are both diseases I guess.
[00:32] <nonewmsgs> the softwarecompany
[00:33] <LeeJunFan> Well, I run kde4 and compiz, my windows are so unstable they wobble.
[00:35] <andreas_> How do i change my resolution back to 1000x700 somthing? It's stuck at 600x400 after a x-restart.
[00:35] <LeeJunFan> sirius: how about something for law enforcement? you could make a database of crimes with certain MO's and then you could run a search on a certain criteria and bring up all the crimes using that same MO, etc.
[00:36] <LeeJunFan> andreas_: all you did was restart X or did you change some configs?
[00:36] <LeeJunFan> andreas_: run 'xrandr -q' from konsole it will list all the modes available to you right now.
[00:36] <andreas_> LeeJunFan :  I installed dwm, then i restarted X...
[00:37] <LeeJunFan> hrm, I can't imagine that should make any difference to the configuration of X itself.
[00:37] <Serva> sirius, can I pm you?
[00:37] <andreas_> LeeJunFan :  it only find one option;   640x480....
[00:38] <LeeJunFan> andreas_: okay, sounds like your x config got changed somewhere along the way.
[00:39] <andreas_> LeeJunFan :  yeah,   got a solution?
[00:39] <LeeJunFan> andreas_: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && sudo dpkg-reconfigur -p high xserver-xorg
[00:39] <LeeJunFan> andreas_: cut and paste the above into konsole.
[00:39] <andreas_> LeeJunFan :  dpkg-reconfigur: command not found
[00:40] <LeeJunFan> That will make a backup of your xorg.conf, and if the backup is successful (&&) it will run the reconfigure, crap - I missed an e on the end of reconfigure
[00:40] <andreas_> hehe:p ok
[00:41] <andreas_> LeeJunFan :  done, now, all i do is restart X?
[00:41] <LeeJunFan> andreas_: yeah, if you log out to dm, then ctrl-alt-backspace that should do it.
[00:42] <andreas_> LeeJunFan :  i'm in KDE-thingy again no
[00:42] <LeeJunFan> kde-thingy?
[00:42] <andreas_> nvm,    restart x now;D
[00:43] <sirius> whats the best wysiwyg html editor for ubuntu?
[00:44] <sirius> any preferences?
[00:44] <nonewmsgs> for anyone interested videotrans has a lot of neat scripts for doing this.  it requires the console, but once you read its man pages it rocks
[00:44] <LeeJunFan> preference is not to use wysiwyg :) vi :)
[00:44] <andreas_> It worked;D    Thaks for the help LeeJunFan =)
[00:44] <LeeJunFan> I don't even know if there are any.
[00:44] <LeeJunFan> andreas_: you're welcome.
[00:44] <sirius> yea a coiple
[00:44] <sirius> couple
[00:45] <joshuajtl> anyway to make the kicker have rounded corners?
[00:46] <andreas_> Any of you experts know a cool window manager i can experiment on?  Need to refresh my little laptop=p
[00:46] <sirius> im not that well versed in html yet  but im gettin there wysiwyg helps me a lil bit
[00:46] <nonewmsgs> icewm ?
[00:47] <andreas_> hmm
[00:47] <andreas_> i'll look it up,     Will i need a new taskbar and all that stuff as well?
[00:48] <LeeJunFan> joshuajtl: no, you can gimp up a background for your desktop to give rouded corners look to kicker though.
[00:48] <dr_willis> icewm has its own panel.
[00:48] <dr_willis> icewm is 'decent' - a little annoying in ways under ubuntu. but useable
[00:48] <andreas_> ooh, sweet=)
[00:48] <dr_willis> I often use icewm + rox-filer for the desktop icons
[00:48] <joshuajtl> LeeJunFan: really? so like a png with rounded corners on transparent background?
[00:48] <dr_willis> Of course theres a dozen+ window managers you can play with
[00:50] <LeeJunFan> joshuajtl: for example you would take your current background, edit it, to add the rounded corners you want to put on kicker into your background, then when it's all loaded up it would look like those additions to your background were actually part of kicker.
[00:50] <andreas_> Need a manager my "novice" ass can handle...     Wold like a "futuristic" look to my desktop, and cant realy find a theme for KDE that can do the job.
[00:50] <joshuajtl> LeeJunFan: not sure i get it, are there any examples?
[00:50] <dr_willis> andreas_,  you proberly havent looked very hard at the kde themes out there then. :)
[00:51] <andreas_> That maybe.
[00:51] <joshuajtl> is there kpager2 for kubuntu?
[00:51] <dr_willis> I tend to not worry about themes...
[00:51] <dr_willis> !find kpager
[00:51] <dr_willis> seems to be a kpager. but no 2 :)
[00:51] <dr_willis> !info kpager
[00:51] <LeeJunFan> joshuajtl: I don't know of any. Just a suggestion I ran across. basically you edit the image of your current background, you add little kicker looking rounded ends to either side of where kicker sits. So where kicker's panel ends your image of rounded corners appears.
[00:52] <andreas_> Hehe:p  Want this comp to be the showoff_piece of my briliance:D
[00:52] <joshuajtl> LeeJunFan: oh you mean the wallpaper?
[00:52] <LeeJunFan> joshuajtl: yeah. Or you could simply make kicker totally transparent, and create your own panel looking graphic on your wallpaper.
[00:53] <joshuajtl> oh that sounds easier
[00:53] <LeeJunFan> I think kicker has an option to load a background, I don't know if it can handle a full size image or if it's just a paintbrush it uses to fill kicker.
[00:53] <LeeJunFan> I'm in kde4 now or I'd look.
[00:54] <LeeJunFan> actually I've got kcontrol still on here for printer config.
[00:55] <_2> isn't there a kde4 kcontrol too ?
[00:55] <Schuenemann> how do I rip a DVD with k3b?
[00:55] <dr_willis> Schuenemann,  i tend to use k9copy to copy dvd's
[00:55] <dr_willis> or the dd command. :)
[00:55] <LeeJunFan> _2: there's a system config tool like the default kubuntu one, but no kcontrol for kde4 and there's a lot of things missing.
[00:55] <Schuenemann> dr_willis, I wanted to extract the video only, not copy to a different dvd
[00:56] <dr_willis> I think you want some other tool then k3b then.
[00:56] <_2> LeeJunFan heh   i'd say a lot missing.  kcontrol was the heart of kde  imo
[00:56] <LeeJunFan> configuring cups w/o kde's config sucks. So I keep kde3 printer config around.
[00:56] <dr_willis> !info dvdrip
[00:57] <Schuenemann> dr_willis, but K3b has an option called "rip dvd". I think it *should* do that
[00:57] <LeeJunFan> _2: I agree, I disliked the fact that it was hidden in kubuntu.
[00:57] <LeeJunFan> in favor of the dumbed down control panel.
[00:57] <Schuenemann> dr_willis, can you test if that option works for you? at least if it does something?
[00:57] <LeeJunFan> !info k9copy
[00:57] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, I want to extract the video
[00:58]  * _2 quotes his hero "default is only the starting point on the long road to right"
[00:58] <LeeJunFan> k9copy can save to mpeg I believe.
[00:58] <dr_willis> Schuenemann,  check its help docs. ive never used it.  its proberly just calling  transcode like all the otehr tools do
[00:58] <Schuenemann> dr_willis, doesn't talk about it. I've found a few tutorials on the web, but they all link to broken pages =/
[00:59] <LeeJunFan> from there you can convert to anything with ffmpeg, you can rip with ffmpeg to anything too, but it's a pain to specify all the input vobs with ffmpeg on the command line, so I'd start with k9copy, then if you need it in AVI format or something use ffmpeg to convert it.
[00:59] <dr_willis> ive used dvdrip befor - it wasent too hard to use either
[01:00] <Schuenemann> when I run k3b from terminal (to see possible output errors), the program opens and then the console is "unlocked"... why does that happen to this specific program?
[01:05] <dr_willis> they spawn to the background releaseing the terminal, any error messages shouls still get printed to it however
[01:06] <Schuenemann> you're right. There is no error when I select the rip option, though
[01:07] <Schuenemann> well, I'm already downloading dvdrip
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> could try running k3b with option --nofork
[01:08] <Schuenemann> cool
[01:08] <joshuajtl> LeeJunFan: a lot easier than i would have suspected :) (rounded corners)
[01:10] <Schuenemann> dr_willis, wow, you call that easy? :p
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> joshuajtl: how'd you end up doing it?
[01:15] <joshuajtl> LeeJunFan: just transparent kicker with a kicker image on my wallpaper
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> joshuajtl: cool.
[01:17] <joshuajtl> yeah i think ill add it to kde-look just incase folk want to know, i havent seen anything on there wihth this idea, ill give you credit
[01:17] <LeeJunFan> cool. I can't believe I never thought of it before now I want to do it with mine, I'll have to see if I can edit the plasma config in kde4 to make my panel transparent as there's no config option for it.
[01:18] <joshuajtl> yeah
[01:20] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, k9copy raises this error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/48189/
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: is this an encrypted DVD?
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> protected, whatever.
[01:22] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, well, it's an original DVD film. Does that mean yes?
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> yeah, have you installed libdvdread2 to play protected DVD's on linux?
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> !dvd
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> err, libdvdcss2, sorry
[01:24] <Schuenemann> can't find that package
[01:24] <Schuenemann> oh, nevermind
[01:24] <Schuenemann> sorry
[01:24] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, wait, is it in medibuntu for hardy too?
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> I think so.
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> not according to that factoid.
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: mine came from medibuntu, so I guess yes.
[01:26] <LeeJunFan> 1.2.9-2medibuntu4
[01:26] <Schuenemann> I already have libdvdread3
[01:26] <LeeJunFan> yeah, it's libdvdcss2 that we really need for protected dvd's.
[01:27] <Schuenemann> isn't that for feisty and earlier? the wiki doesn't mention that package
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: follow these instructions to get it: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> since you already have libdvdread3, you should just have to run 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[01:28] <Schuenemann> yeah, was trying that. But the directory isn't examples/ anymore
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> biab
[01:30] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, now it went through... and crashed with that KDE exception handler windows
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: hrm, not sure what that means.
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> I use it all the time.
[01:39] <Schuenemann> Sorry, this file format is not recognized/supported
[01:39] <Schuenemann> this sucks
[01:40] <LeeJunFan> hrm, that's odd. Did you close k9copy and restart it?
[01:40] <Schuenemann> only a hundred times :p
[01:40] <LeeJunFan> hehe, well, it sounds like that's in the encoding part of the process. I'm not sure what k3b uses to encode.
[01:41] <LeeJunFan> err, k9copy
[01:41] <Schuenemann> k3b or k9copy?
[01:42] <vbgunz> I do not have "GTK Styles and Fonts" in 8.04 ... This is a brand new installation, am I supposed to install something?
[01:42] <Schuenemann> it does sound like it's the enconding part, since the film can be previewed inside k9copy
[01:43] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: it uses mencoder, and it's a dependency of k9copy so I'd assume you must already have mencoder on your system.
[01:43] <LeeJunFan> vbgunz: gtk-qt-engine
[01:43] <Schuenemann> yeah, I do
[01:44] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: what file format were you trying to save to?
[01:44] <Schuenemann> mp4
[01:45] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: out of curiosity I wonder if another format would work?
[01:45] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, shouldn't I change mencoder's video codec? It's set as 'copy'
[01:46] <vbgunz> gtk-qt-engine is already the newest version ... I did install the kubuntu-kde4-desktop package... did it steal my app?
[01:46] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: maybe, I don't know if those are settings as to what it's going to use, or just a way to configure cmd line options for different ones.
[01:46] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, I changed to xvid and no error was outputted. There is a time counter going on and the dvd is being read, although the progress bar hasn't moved so far
[01:47] <LeeJunFan> vbgunz: if you're in kde4 you need to install gtk-qt-engine-kde4
[01:47] <Schuenemann> ok, it did nor work either
[01:48] <joseph> in hardy, how do i make more than 2 virtual desktops?
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: mine seems to be working with mp4
[01:49] <vbgunz> brb, hopefully this works
[01:49] <Schuenemann> bah, if I set to xvid and do ok/apply and then open the settings again, 'copy' is back
[01:50] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, what button do you click to start?
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: as soon as I enter the filename it starts.
[01:51] <Schuenemann> you click the mpg4 button?
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: you click the folder option to open the DVD, select the titles you want, then click the toolbar icon with the mpg4 button.
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> yeah.
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> yeah, mine's working. hrm.
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> could be dvd specific, some discs especially those from sony studios or columbia just won't copy.
[01:55] <Schuenemann> it's dolby studio and says copy protected on the box
[01:55] <Schuenemann> dolby digital*
[01:57] <Schuenemann> from what I found on google, that error message is not from mencoder or mplayer
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> so when yours quits it simply says that about the format.
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> ?
[01:58] <Schuenemann> yes
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> well, I wonder if it's got something to do with the fact that most of my multimedia packages are from medibuntu and therefore aren't crippled?
[01:59] <Schuenemann> sorry, I mean the error message IS from one of those
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> mplayer which mencoder uses, mencoder, ffmpeg, libdvd and all.
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> I'd enable medibuntu, run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade then try again with k9copy.
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> !medibuntu
[02:00] <Schuenemann> ok
[02:01] <Schuenemann> I tested with a different dvd and it is copying
[02:01] <LeeJunFan> may as well apt-get install libdvdcss2 as well after enabling medibuntu.
[02:03] <joseph> before i upgraded to hardy, i was able to configure the desktop pager on the panel to have 6 virtual desktops, but now i only have two - regardless of how many i set in the applet.  does anyone have any suggestions?
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> you have to configure the # of desktops, not the page applet itself. I think you can get there by right clicking on the desktop, configure, and properties.
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> joseph: you aren't running compiz are you?
[02:04] <joseph> hmm
[02:04] <joseph> apparently i am
[02:04] <joseph> according to ps, that is
[02:05] <LeeJunFan> joseph: you installed compiz and started it and have desktop effects like cube and windows?
[02:05] <joseph> well, i have desktop effects
[02:05] <joseph> but not the cube or anything
[02:05] <joseph> no emerald
[02:05] <LeeJunFan> okay, well compiz has it's own settings for virtual desktops under general.
[02:06] <LeeJunFan> if compiz is running on your desktop kde no longer controls the # of virtual desktops.
[02:06] <joseph> damn
[02:06] <joseph> so i need to remove compiz then
[02:06] <joseph> or maybe just disable desktop effects?
[02:06] <CoJaBo-Eee> Or set it there
[02:06] <LeeJunFan> or you need to configure compiz.
[02:07] <joseph> yeah, but i don't have any compiz configuration options in kcontrol
[02:07] <LeeJunFan> joseph: no kde3 isn't aware of compiz at all. you have to run ccsm if you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed
[02:09] <LeeJunFan> I can think of no reason why a person would disable compiz :p
[02:11] <dr_willis> My wife says the wiggly windows makes her puke
[02:11] <dr_willis> :)
[02:11] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: well, if that other DVD works, and after updating with medibuntu your original one still won't rip, it's probably not going to with linux. Maybe with windows and an app like anydvd :(
[02:12] <_2> i can think of no reason a person would enable compiz    so i guess we're even.
[02:13] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, lots of packages from medibuntu seem the same version I already have installed... why should I upgrade them?
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> I think the versions ARE the same, but the point being that for legal reasons the counterparts included with ubuntu repos are neutered to avoid legal liability.
[02:15] <Schuenemann> if they're the same, why upgrade?
[02:16] <LeeJunFan> _2: compiz is one of those things you realize you like at some point in your life :) It's like when you were 5 and girls had 'cooties', then you turn 13 and you're like mmm. b...ies :)
[02:16] <joshuajtl> hi folks
[02:16] <joshuajtl> is kde4 replacing kde3 ? or will kde3 continue on?
[02:16] <Schuenemann> mencoder, ffmpeg, amarok, mplayer... everything is the same version
[02:16] <LeeJunFan> joshuajtl: kde3 will continue on for a while, bug fixing mostly.
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> joshuajtl: you can go to kde.org in the developer region and see that they still have a lot planned for kde3 fixes.
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: see what I said above - neutered.
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> parts removed.
[02:17] <CoJaBo-Eee> Ok, I have a problem... Its not possible to tell when a process is maxing out the CPU (Unlike Windows, the system remains responsive like nothing is going on, meanwhile the battery is running down o_O ).
[02:17] <joshuajtl> but is kde4 a branch or a replacement?
[02:17] <_2> LeeJunFan heh when i realized that i didn't like gui's in general i think that got me past liking compiz altogather  ;/
[02:18] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, I don't understand. If they are the same, how can one be legal and the other not?
[02:18] <LeeJunFan> _2: okay :) For some things. I'm no stranger to the console, I often prefer it to using any tools configuring a system, but I like a gui for general desktop use.
[02:18] <Schuenemann> and which one is the legal?
[02:19] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: you take amarok 1.2, you remove the ability to play mp3, it's still version 1.2 (lite).
[02:19] <CoJaBo-Eee> Anyway is it possible to put a CPU monitor in the taskbar to show CPU load?
[02:19] <LeeJunFan> Legality of them is debatable in most instances.
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> But it's a debate that an organization like ubuntu dare not risk.
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> So the default repos don't have certain functions that are available in medibuntu's repos.
[02:20] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, if I install from medibuntu I'll remove that ability?
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: if you install from medibuntu you'll add functionality.
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> LeeJunFan: and you take Amarok, take away everything that makes it great, and you have amarok 2 :)
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> Daisuke_Ido: agreed.
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> ironic eh.
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> They must be following along with the theme of kde4 alltogether.
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll not get into that particular debate, though i tend to agree
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> Actually kde4 isn't too lacking, I've been using it for a week, I miss a couple small things, mostly the ability to tweak stuff just isn't there yet in kde4.
[02:22] <Schuenemann> omg this is too complicated
[02:22] <Schuenemann> I'll install everything
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: that's what I was saying - apt-get upgrade and let it go.
[02:29] <BluesKaj> 'evening
[02:30] <judgen> where does prtin screen screenshots end up?
[02:32] <_2> judgen $HOME normally
[02:33] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, it seems to be working now
[02:33] <judgen> ok
[02:34] <judgen> _2: noppe
[02:34] <judgen> _2: not here
[02:34] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is it possible to put a CPU monitor in the taskbar to show CPU load?
[02:35] <Schuenemann> CoJaBo-Eee, not superkaramba?
[02:35] <CoJaBo-Eee> ?
[02:35] <Schuenemann> search google images for superkaramba and see if that's what you want
[02:37] <judgen> CoJaBo-Eee: yes just add the kicker aplet
[02:37] <judgen> CoJaBo-Eee: no neeed for karaba or s-karamba
[02:40] <LeeJunFan> CoJaBo-Eee: there's a kde applet to put one there, it's pretty ugly, but it works. I forget the name of it. Right click the panel, add applet, you should find it there.
[02:40] <LeeJunFan> I'm in kde4 or I'd look for you.
[02:40] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, hey, does it really take a lot of time to rip? Estimated is 4 hours
[02:41] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: yeah, depends on the amount of data, speed of computer, and encoding options.
[02:41] <Schuenemann> oh... =/
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> it takes a lot of cpu time to encode video. I've encoded my own DVD's from other formats and had to leave it running for over a day.
[02:43] <Serva> Is there a GUI based ftp client in kubuntu that can copy some files from a remote host?
[02:44] <Schuenemann> Serva, filezilla
[02:44] <Serva> tks
[02:44] <wayne> whats up
[02:44] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, I see... well, thanks
[02:44] <wayne> i need help with kubuntu
[02:45] <wayne> hello?
[02:45] <Schuenemann> !ask | wayne
[02:45] <CoJaBo-Eee> LeeJunFan: I'm in KDE4, is there a way to do it there?
[02:46] <wayne> games will not show up they are in lines
[02:47] <Makuseru> !dvd
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> CoJaBo-Eee: I don't think there is yet.
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> how lame, there's a twitter microblog applet and no cpu monitor - hehe
[02:49] <CoJaBo-Eee> lol, wha?
[02:50] <CoJaBo-Eee> Ok, I found the option to get new ones, but theres only 2 listed, and no description of what they even do :/
[02:51] <root> el español
[02:51] <root> m lo dan
[02:51] <Brunoqc> Is there a way to upgrade to intrepid alpha 6 with adept?
[02:51] <Guest18673> el español
[02:51] <Guest18673> kubuntu auda espanol
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> !es
[02:52] <Guest18673> ok
[02:52] <CoJaBo-Eee> LeeJunFan: Is there any other place to get more?
[02:53] <LeeJunFan> CoJaBo-Eee: superkaramba may be the way to go , there's a package superkaramba-kde4 that might be what you're looking for - I've never messed with it.
[02:53] <LeeJunFan> !intrepid
[02:54]  * LeeJunFan looks up ibex
[02:54] <LeeJunFan> finds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibex
[02:54] <LeeJunFan> okay, so it's a goat
[02:55] <CoJaBo-Eee> lol
[02:55] <CoJaBo-Eee> LeeJunFan: Ok I'll look at that. Is there anywhere else to get new widgets, or are there really only 2 available?
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> might be more on kdelook.org?
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=70x77&PHPSESSID=0259bc882555603b66920bdfc895b083
[03:12] <tacosarecool> hello
[03:15] <tacosarecool> Anyone here that can support me right now I don't wanna waste my time unless theres a expert in the room
[03:33] <holycow> what is the kde equivalent of gksudo?
[03:33] <holycow> nm got it
[03:49] <seba> !es
[04:15] <ForgeAus> hey all
[04:16] <ForgeAus> what package has ATI Radeon (non fglxr) drivers?
[04:16] <ForgeAus> I think I need to reinstall/re-configure it
[04:25] <bla__> hello
[04:27] <CoJaBo-Eee> hi
[04:27] <bla__> I am having issues with running two wifi cards 1 intagrated and the other pcmcia(proxim 8421) help, pointin the right direction
[04:30] <ign0ramus> bla__: your pcmcia card is very old... what is your integrated card?
[04:31] <ign0ramus> !wifi | bla__
[04:31] <bla__> ipw2200
[04:33] <bla__> I installed the pac but when I type "make" it tells me wireless extensions not enabled
[04:33] <bla__> the ipw2200 is working I just can't get the other in line
[04:36] <ign0ramus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632198
[04:36] <ign0ramus> bla__: if the ipw2200 is working, what is the problem?
[04:37] <bla__> I want to run int and the other pcmcia
[04:37] <bla__> AP
[04:38] <ign0ramus> bla__: i know this isn't the 'ubuntu way', but running such an old card (wireless-b) is not going to be the easiest if it's not natively supported
[04:40] <ign0ramus> bla__: someone may be able to help you, but I would suggest a newer card or use usb wireless g, which you can find for $20USD
[04:41] <bla__> would the netgear 511 work....a,b,g....not as much issues newer card
[04:41] <bla__> ??
[04:41] <ign0ramus> bla__: lemme check...
[04:41] <bla__> check ??? where???
[04:42] <ForgeAus> what doy ou mean by the "ubuntu way" ?
[04:43] <ign0ramus> bla__: according to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16833150016, the card worked OOB with Hardy Heron
[04:43] <bla__> OOB??
[04:43] <ign0ramus> ForgeAus: apparently, there is an 'ubuntu way' http://www.google.com/search?q=the+ubuntu+way&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[04:43] <bla__> out of the box
[04:43] <bla__> k
[04:43] <ign0ramus> bla__: yes.  :)
[04:44] <ign0ramus> bla__: are you running Hardy and still having issues with the card?
[04:44] <bla__> cool..thx...off to $pend money$
[04:44] <bla__> Hardy
[04:44] <bla__> ????
[04:44] <bla__> ubuntu 8
[04:45] <ign0ramus> bla__: there is no 'ubuntu 8'.... are you running hardy? (08.04 - April's version)
[04:46] <bla__> O..yea...caled hardy...ok
[04:46] <ign0ramus> bla__: and the card is not detected upon boot? I only ask because others using this card say that it is detected by the OS
[04:47] <bla__> no..the ipw2200 works every time...the pcimcia card just fills the hole
[04:48] <ign0ramus> bla__: does it work under Windows (only to make sure that your hardware is functioning properly)?
[04:48] <bla__> I bought the card on ebay....maybe the card is bad.....no on windows
[04:49] <ign0ramus> bla__: if the card does not work on Windows or Ubuntu Hardy, there is a good chance the card is bad :(
[04:49] <bla__> yea...got pinched
[04:49] <bla__> k...back to the store...thanx alt 4 ur help
[04:49] <ign0ramus> bla__: it's happened to me before... damn JustDeals!
[04:55] <outbackwifi> hello
[04:55] <ign0ramus> o hai!
[05:00] <RAm_22> hola
[05:13] <Ninjara> Does the automount system or something have a habit of spinning up the CD rom even if you didn't open the tray and there's no disc in it?
[05:13] <Ninjara> Mine keeps spinning up (even when empty) and it gets really annoying in the long run to listen to.
[05:13] <Ninjara> Running 8.04 and so forth.
[05:14] <Ninjara> And if the cause isn't immediately obvioys, does anyone know of a way to find out what process is trying to access the CD drive?
[05:15] <mr---t-> top will give you running processes
[05:16] <mr---t-> dmesg will allow you to see if it's during boot
[05:16] <Ninjara> yeah, I just use ps ax
[05:16] <Ninjara> But I dunno how to tell from there what is accessing what on the fs
[05:24] <CostaRicanGFs> hello, i just installed buntu on my gfs laptop but the screen is messed up
[05:24] <CostaRicanGFs> i am on failsafe mode now because i messed up the settings thinking that i could solve it changing the resolution to a lower one
[05:24] <CostaRicanGFs> the problem is that the screen is like a little screen inside the screen
[05:24] <CostaRicanGFs> theres like an inch of black space around where the gui is
[06:05] <michaelo> KEK
[06:05] <michaelo> COMO INSTALAR
[06:05] <michaelo> AMSN??
[06:11] <Humanity> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[06:12] <Humanity> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[06:13] <Humanity> I can only get a black screen with cursor, when desktop effects enabled in kde 4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy. Can anyone help me out?
[06:14] <Humanity> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[06:14] <Reed_Solomon> sorry i can't
[06:14] <Reed_Solomon> i would guess its broken
[06:14] <Reed_Solomon> turn them off
[06:14] <Reed_Solomon> restart with your last working ubuntu and fix the settings
[06:15] <Humanity> Its easy to say to set it off. But compiz working fine, but kwin suffers. Is there a bug announced?
[06:16] <Humanity> Anyone else?
[06:17] <Humanity> Any kubnntu geek out there?
[06:18] <Humanity> Dear.Solomon, I had never broken kwin. Its not working right from the start.
[06:19] <Humanity> can you figure out what could be the problem?
[06:22] <Humanity> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[06:24] <Humanity> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[06:24] <Humanity> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[06:25] <Humanity> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[06:35] <raja_> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[06:35] <raja_> ?????????
[06:36] <leaszumik> BUENAS
[06:37] <Darkrift2> i got some of them working for a few minutes then kdm died on me
[06:37] <Darkrift2> after that kde4 wouldnt run anymore, and kdm3 stopped working also... .now im stuck logging in from command line
[06:37] <raja_> what could be the cause?
[06:37] <Darkrift2> not sure, i was adding one affect at a time and it locked up, on reboot nothing worked
[06:37] <Darkrift2> had to go back to kde3
[06:38] <raja_> Is kwin conflicts with compiz?
[06:38] <Darkrift2> i didnt have compiz
[06:38] <raja_> I have got compiz working
[06:38] <raja_> Do install it from adept package manager
[06:38] <Darkrift2> i did
[06:38] <raja_> search for compiz-kde
[06:38] <Darkrift2> oh, i dont want compiz on here
[06:39] <SkEmO> any good, and i mean good professional video  editing software for kubunu
[06:39] <SkEmO> ?
[06:39] <raja_> but it seems to me that without compiz, we cannot run kde4, becauz kwin crashes and struckworks
[06:40] <raja_> I like the presentation of kde4 fonts and the oxygen theme
[06:40] <raja_> so would like to continue with kde4.1.1
[06:41] <raja_> But I am too not very much fond of compiz. It flickers a lot
[06:41] <raja_> But I have no other way to run kde4 without compiz right now
[06:42] <SkEmO> *sigh*
[06:43] <raja_> Is there any official bugs registered against desktop effects in kde4 or 4.1.1 either?
[06:44] <raja_> hello SkEmo?
[06:44] <raja_> are you following?
[06:45] <raja_> ??????????
[06:45] <raja_> 4.1.1 kwin effects failure
[06:46] <raja_> 4.1.1 kwin effects -- "failure"
[06:46] <SkEmO> not really
[06:46] <SkEmO> i use kde 3
[06:48] <raja_> Ther is a one named automatix2 for video editing which is available for both K,Ubuntu
[06:48] <SkEmO> uhm
[06:49] <SkEmO> i was looking for kineterra
[06:49] <SkEmO> but cant find it
[06:49] <SkEmO> lemme try that one
[06:49] <raja_> Google it.
[06:51] <raja_> Hello SkEmo, there is another one too named -- Kino
[06:51] <raja_> bye
[06:51] <raja_> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[06:55] <raja_> I can only get a black screen with cursor, when desktop effects enabled in kde 4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy. Can anyone help me out?
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> raja_: you were humanity before, do NOT pm people without asking them, and don't repeat your question incessantly.  it's the middle of the night for a lot of people, don't be surprised if no one's around.  and no, i don't know the answer.
[07:00] <raja_> ok
[07:00] <raja_> Thanku buddy
[07:00] <raja_> cool
[07:02] <raja_> It may be midnight. Bu I hope it is not the end of the world
[07:02] <raja_> anyway, sorry if i disturbed you
[07:08] <raja_> Hello, I am from chennai
[07:08] <raja_> Want add you ad buddy.
[07:08] <raja_> Are you interested?
[07:08] <raja_> Raja
[07:09] <raja_> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[07:09] <raja_> I can only get a black screen with cursor, when desktop effects enabled in kde 4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy. Can anyone help me out?
[07:12] <raja_> Hello anybody got desktop effects working with kde 4.1.1 over Kubuntu hardy?
[07:12] <raja_> I can only get a black screen with cursor, when desktop effects enabled in kde 4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy. Can anyone help me out?
[07:13] <lamoz> hi raja
[07:14] <raja_> hi lamoz. Is that ur name?
[07:14] <lamoz> did you enable your 3D device?
[07:14] <raja_> yah, I have got compiz working
[07:14] <lamoz> no, it's my nickname...
[07:14] <raja_> But its kwin which is not functioning properly when desktop effects were enabled
[07:15] <raja_> nice nick
[07:15] <lamoz> which kind of 3D video card are you using?*
[07:15] <lamoz> thanks!
[07:15] <raja_> I am using VIA Chrome9 HC IGP Family, VN896
[07:16] <raja_> I have no problem with compiz
[07:16] <lamoz> i don't know this
[07:16] <raja_> All the available effects are working fine in both kde3 and kde4
[07:16] <lamoz> so, your hardware should be ok
[07:17] <raja_> ofcoarse
[07:17] <raja_> where r u frm?
[07:17] <raja_> i am frm chennai, India
[07:18] <lamoz> i've no idea, i tried the 3D desktop without any problem
[07:18] <lamoz> I'm from france
[07:18] <lamoz> but i'm now in Germany
[07:18] <raja_> I am also heard about that. Today. I will try that
[07:18] <raja_> Nice
[07:19] <joshua__> has anyone installed  compiz .7.8?
[07:19] <raja_> Whats' the time now in german?
[07:19] <joshua__> i downloaded it but dont know how to install it?
[07:19] <joshua__> im in phoenix arizona
[07:19] <lamoz> sunny but cold
[07:19] <raja_> tell ur proble joshua
[07:19] <lamoz> i had to unfreeze my car this morning
[07:19] <raja_> i see
[07:20] <raja_> what OS You r using Josua? If you want you may pm me
[07:20] <lamoz> ah... th time, sorry, it's 8:20 AM
[07:21] <sebastian_> hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?
[07:21] <lamoz> and in india?
[07:21] <raja_> its 11.53 a.m right here in india
[07:21] <lamoz> soon the lunch time?
[07:21] <sebastian_> hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?
[07:21] <sebastian_> hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?
[07:22] <lamoz> ok, so, i've to work a little
[07:22] <joshua__> how do i install compiz .7.8?
[07:22] <lamoz> good luck with your devices
[07:22] <sebastian_> sudo apt-get install compiz
[07:22] <joshua__> i already have it downloaded
[07:23] <sebastian_> maby u need to explain a little better
[07:24] <sebastian_> hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?
[07:24] <joshua__> i have compiz .7.8 downloaded to my desktop
[07:25] <sebastian_> but what kind of a file is it?
[07:25] <sebastian_> debian?
[07:26] <sebastian_> hi, anyone know if juk have the rating system?
[07:27] <sebastian_> sorry u answered to slow now i have to go :)
[07:35] <surgy> im in the market for a tv tuner card. I was wandering if anyone know a good cheap one that works with kubuntu, has a remote, and is of decent quality
[07:35] <surgy> ?
[07:35] <jussi01> !tv | surgy
[07:36] <jussi01> surgy: that site has a real good list...
[07:41] <lemon_> #ubuntu
[08:36] <isabel__> what's the name of that program to depackage tarballs
[08:36] <isabel__> and the one that compiles downloaded debs on its own
[08:40] <eddieftw> isabel__: apt?
[08:40] <eddieftw> tar?
[08:42] <isabel__> it allows you to open tarballs
[08:42] <isabel__> what's the name of the package to get it fronm the terminal
[08:54] <djfred72_> hello isabel__
[09:23] <o0Chris0o> is 8.10 alpha release? and what are the changes/fixes
[09:23] <favro> !intrepid
[09:24] <o0Chris0o> ahh its only going to come with 4.1?
[09:26] <favro> I dunno check here - https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion
[09:26] <o0Chris0o> thanks
[09:28] <o0Chris0o> when it is offically realsed will hardy automaticly update to it? or do I have to do it manually?
[09:29] <favro> it will come as an option to dist-upgrade in adept - that's what happens normally
[09:30] <favro> afaik... :)
[09:35] <o0Chris0o> will that leave the older files, or replace them so its not kde3 and kde4
[09:37] <mkrahmeh> is this like the mirc
[09:37] <mkrahmeh> ??
[09:37] <mkrahmeh> this is my first time
[09:37] <zzillezz> this is irc, mirc is the name of a windows program to connect to an irc network
[09:39] <mkrahmeh> can anyone suggest a kde based dictionary program
[09:39] <mkrahmeh> prefarably arabic-english
[09:40] <|neon|> if i used the update manager to upgrade to ibex will i loose any of my stuff that i currently have setup on hardy?
[09:42] <favro> |neon|: the folk in #ubuntu+1 will know
[09:44] <favro> mkrahmeh: http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=english+arabic+dictionary&btnG=Search&meta= - gives a few choices
[09:45] <mkrahmeh> thx i will give it a try
[09:51] <silovio> ragazzi sono nuovo............qualcuno mi aiuta nella configurazione della webcam per Kopete? :)
[09:53] <favro> !it
[09:56] <ngirard> Hi all, one of my partitions is bootable and contains a Windows installation (/dev/sdc1). How can I get grub to add an entry for this partition ?
[09:57] <silovio> ragazzi sono nuovo di linux............non resta la webcam su kopete,sparisce subito,qualcuno mi sa dire come posso risolvere?
[09:57] <ngirard> (i guess it's the first time i need to boot on windows in, err, 4 years)
[09:58] <favro> !es | silovio
[09:59] <favro> ngirard: the only way I know is to manually add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:59] <ngirard> favro: ok. Can you give me a hand on this ? I know lilo far much better than grub
[10:00] <favro> ngirard: sure - kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst   and I'll paste what you need to add
[10:00] <favro> !paste
[10:03] <favro> ngirard: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48255/ - the line about (hd3,0) should maybe be (sd3,0)
[10:04] <favro> ngirard: and it goes at the bottom
[10:05] <favro> ngirard: and thinking about it grub counts 0,1,2 etc so (sd2,0) would be better
[10:05] <ngirard> favro: wow. A huge thanks for your efforts! I'm in a rush and it's such a great pleasure to know that you've just saved me 20 or 30 minutes
[10:05] <ngirard> favro: understood
[10:06] <favro> k :)
[10:06] <ngirard> favro: thanks very much again
[10:06] <evilshur> hi all
[10:06] <favro> hi evilshur
[10:07] <berit> Hi! When i left click on e.g firefox in the task list in the tool bar, I get the context menu, right click also gives context menu... anyone got the same problem with Kubuntu 8.04.1?
[10:08] <favro> not here :)
[10:08] <evilshur> i newbie in irc , please tell me more channels for example
[10:10] <kuberit> Hi! When i left click on e.g firefox in the task list in the tool bar, I get the context menu, right click also gives context menu. This is in Kubuntu 8.04.1
[10:11] <kuberit> Cant get my head around it, anyone know where I can look for options for this?
[10:11] <favro> evilshur: http://searchirc.com/ - will help
[10:15] <kuberit> ah, sorry! there are ofcourse an option for this, thanks!!
[10:17] <evilshur> thx favro
[10:17] <favro> np :)
[10:17] <Logico_h> somebody know , how to play a song with ares?
[10:21] <favro> !info ares
[10:25] <Kraplax> hello there :)
[10:25] <Kraplax> i installed kubuntu 8.04 on my eeepc
[10:28] <favro> Kraplax: well done :)
[10:29] <Kraplax> sorry - doorbell :)
[10:30] <Kraplax> so, i installed and there's only KDE4.0
[10:30] <Kraplax> i even made apt-get upgrade - it asked to download about 140 MB
[10:30] <Kraplax> after that - almost no changes (visually)
[10:31] <Kraplax> so, what command do i need to enter to get the KDE4.1.x ?
[10:32] <Jucato> Kraplax: #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 support
[10:35] <mkrahmeh> does tork allow to bypass proxy ??
[10:37] <kho_zhi> yo guys
[10:37] <kho_zhi> any idea about, linux enterprise on oracle?
[10:37] <kho_zhi> how to setup database grid?
[10:37] <ghostcube> ^^
[10:38] <ghostcube> red hat enterprise support ?
[10:43] <akacha> hallo
[11:21] <user6__> ! card reader
[11:21] <user6__> ! SD
[11:21] <user6__> ! card
[11:22] <user6__> ! reader
[11:22] <user6__> ! games
[11:22] <ForgeAus> does ubuntu have an enterprise version?
[11:34] <elirips> hello. I am trying to print from kpdf, using the setting '4 pages on 1'. But I cannot set the paper-orientation to 'landscape', the "box" where you can setthis is disabled. anyone has an idea how to change this?
[11:35] <frybye> ForgeAus: just a server version if i am right...
[11:36] <ForgeAus> yeah essentially its ubuntu-minimal + some server software, prolly stuff like apache, etc..
[11:48] <ForgeAus> on the other end of the scale is kubuntu going to have a Mobile edition?
[11:48] <ForgeAus> (like Ubuntu-MID)
[11:49] <ForgeAus> I guess it sounds more like fluxbox than KDE would be the obvious Mobile choice
[11:58] <o0Chris0o> Morning :)
[11:59] <o0Chris0o> I tried to enable my Proproiter drivers but it says "this application needs special administrator privileges.
[12:00] <o0Chris0o> run it as root or through kdesu or sudo, how do I do that I am logged in as administrator I assume
[12:04] <udohateme> THE NEGRO BRAIN
[12:04] <udohateme> FACT #17: Among human races numerous studies have been madeof the comparative weight of White and Negro brains with results that fellwithin the range of about an 8-12 percent lower weight for the Negro brain.Such studies have been conducted by Bean, Pearl, Vint, Tilney, Gordon, Todd,and others. (23) (27)
[12:04] <udohateme> FACT #18: In addition to the difference in brain weight, the Negrobrain grows less after puberty than the white. Though the Negro brain andnervous system mature faster than the white brain, its development is arrestedat an earlier age which limits further intellectual advancement. (22) (27)
[12:05] <udohateme> FACT #19: The thickness of the supragranular layer (the outside layer)of the Negro brain is about 15 percent thinner, and its convolutions arefewer and more simple, on average, than that of the White brain. (9)
[12:05] <udohateme> FACT #20: The frontal lobes of the Negro brain, responsible for abstractconceptional reasoning, are smaller relative to body weight, less fissured,and less complex than those of the White brain. (9) (27) (23) (22)
[12:05] <apol|work> isn't he going to be kicked?
[12:06] <Jucato> !ops | udohateme
[12:06] <gnomefreak> he stopped
[12:07] <stdin> and now he can't continue
[12:07] <Jucato> :)
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i just read some of what he posted, he needs a ban
[12:07] <Jucato> sorry, I didn't know that if someone stops spam-flood, that's considered ok already :)
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Jucato: yeah no need to do anything if he stops but what he posted he needs to be banned for (if he comes back with that crap
[12:08] <o0Chris0o> hi stdin, long time no chat, you helped me out awhile back :) I'm back :D
[12:08] <o0Chris0o> yeah is borderline racist
[12:09] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I would have called ops if I didn't think his flood was inappropriate :P
[12:09]  * Jucato knows the SOP :)
[12:09] <stdin> gnomefreak: he was doing it in other channels as far as I can gather
[12:09] <Jucato> unless that changed while I was away
[12:10] <o0Chris0o> how do I enable my proproiter drivers? says I need to have sudo command?
[12:10] <stdin> use jokey
[12:11] <stdin> KMenu -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[12:13] <o0Chris0o> weird how that worked, had a pop up of the same window to enable the drivers, but it didn't work the first time
[12:14] <stdin> when you use the item in the KMenu it should run it via kdesu
[12:14] <o0Chris0o> I see
[12:16] <o0Chris0o> stdin: you help me set up ubottu if I remember exactly was before summer :)
[12:16] <evilshur> somebody tell pls how can watchin a fullscreen video with compiz effects are turned on? not work for me
[12:17] <stdin> o0Chris0o: yeah, I remember
[12:17] <evilshur> sorry for bad english
[12:18] <o0Chris0o> evilshur: I very much understood you :) wasn't that bad
[12:18] <o0Chris0o> !compiz | evilshur
[12:19] <o0Chris0o> try going there and asking help, I'm sure someone in there can help you further why full screen isn't working with compiz on
[12:20] <evilshur> thx. for u help)
[12:20] <o0Chris0o> np
[12:21] <o0Chris0o> !kde
[12:21] <o0Chris0o> !kde4
[12:36] <badserii> Hi. Is it possible to use mask for the "rm" command? For example, I want to delete all files starting with "mail.", but I can't do "rm mail.*" Is there a solution? Thank you in advance!
[12:37] <Jucato> badserii: "rm mail*"?
[12:38] <badserii> Jucato: thank you! I was in another directory :)
[12:38] <Jucato> :)
[13:03] <tamer> why my KDE 4.1.1 crashes with compizfusion but works good with KDE 3.5.9
[13:13] <molla> hey peeps
[13:14] <molla> I am looking for some repositories that work
[13:14] <molla> anyone
[13:15] <molla> hhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooo
[13:15] <molla> !
[14:03] <pumpkin__> is anyone on that can help me
[14:03] <pumpkin__> i'm desparate for help
[14:03] <favro> !ask
[14:04] <william> hi only one question, repositories tu gutsy please...
[14:04] <william>  hi only one question, repositories to gutsy please...
[14:05] <pumpkin__> sorry, my task bar has completely disappeared and and i can't figure out how to get it back.
[14:06] <shadowhywind> pumpkin__: kde4?
[14:06] <shadowhywind> is there a way to change inode of a partition without having to backup/restore the data?
[14:07] <pumpkin__> yes, kde4 hardy heron
[14:07] <shadowhywind> pumpkin__: top right corner on the plasmoid thing..  kick on add widget
[14:07] <shadowhywind> pumpkin__:  then add system tray /  tasmanager
[14:08] <pumpkin__> there's no plasmoid thing
[14:08] <shadowhywind> you don't have the little icon thing in the corner??
[14:08] <pumpkin__> no, i don't have any icons on my destop
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:09] <shadowhywind> pumpkin__: oh, thats a bit strange
[14:09] <pumpkin__> hmmm
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> sup pumpkin__
[14:10] <pumpkin__> my task has disappeared and i haven't the foggiest idea how to get it back
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> pumpkin__: how do you mean "task"?
[14:12] <pumpkin__> the kmenu along with the task bar that's usually at the bottom of the screen
[14:12] <pumpkin__> mine just disappeared somehow
[14:12] <pumpkin__> i'm wondering if i typed something wrong
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> pumpkin__: run kicker
[14:13] <pumpkin__> it didn't do anything
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> pumpkin__: does a reboot help?
[14:14] <pumpkin__> nope
[14:14] <favro> and it's kde4 isn't it
[14:15] <pumpkin__> yes
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> pumpkin__: ok, drop to command line and rename ~/.kde and ~/.kde4 (if you have it) to .kde_old and. kde4old
[14:15] <pumpkin__> i'm  double checking right now
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> then reboot
[14:15] <Jucato> um...
[14:15] <Jucato> nothing to do with ~/.kde (that's for KDE 3)
[14:15] <Jucato> no need to reboot (you only need to restart KDE)
[14:16] <pumpkin__> oh shit, that's where i went wrong
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Jucato: he may be on kde3
[14:16] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: he did say he was on KDE 4
[14:16] <pumpkin__> earlier i was following online structions and i copypasted ~/.kde/share/sounds
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Jucato: i see
[14:17] <pumpkin__> i'm trying very hard to learn linux on my own but this one through me off, could that have caused the problem?
[14:17] <Jucato> Reset Plasma: "kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* && plasma"
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> pumpkin__: if you rename the kde4 folder and reboot you will get a stock one, see if thats good
[14:17] <pumpkin__> btw, i'm a she
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> pumpkin__: if not, rename back
[14:17] <Jucato> sorry. "she"
[14:17] <pumpkin__> lol
[14:18] <pumpkin__> will if cause any damage to the things i've done?
[14:19] <ilembitov> Hi, all. How do I switch from Kubuntu to Ubuntu, without reinstalling the system? I had a fresh Kubuntu install, want a clean Ubuntu
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> pumpkin__: no as you are only renaming, not deleting
[14:19] <Pici> ilembitov: Do you want to get rid of KDE?
[14:19] <Jucato> !puregnome
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> ilembitov: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:20] <pumpkin__> i also don't have any tool bars, thank you for all the help by the way
[14:21] <ilembitov> Pici: I want to get rid of all Kubuntu-related packages and have Ubuntu as if I installed it from Ubuntu install CD
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> pumpkin__: id go for the .kde4 folder then
[14:21] <Pici> ilembitov: Use the !puregnome instructions above
[14:23] <pumpkin__> k, i'll try that, brb now i'm back tracking to find it
[14:24] <pumpkin__> now i'm trying to figure out how to rename
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> pumpkin__: mv <oldname> <newname>
[14:25] <Jucato> pumpkin__: what toolbars are you missing?
[14:25] <sTratovariuZ> can someone help me with my flash prob? i'm not able to watch videoclips with regular quality, they are always deformed, apparantely cuz of my flash is not working
[14:25] <Jucato> pumpkin__: if you're just missing the panel at the bottom, did you try the commands I gave?
[14:26] <pumpkin__> i'm going to reboot, brb
[14:26] <sTratovariuZ> noone can help me about flash?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> !flash sTratovariuZ
[14:27] <Jucato> (that reboot was really unnecessary.... *sigh*)
[14:30] <sTratovariuZ> ActionParnsip: ??
[14:30] <pumpkin_> i'm back
[14:30] <ghostcube> !flash | sTratovariuZ
[14:30] <pumpkin_> I just got an error message "
[14:30] <pumpkin_> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[14:30] <pumpkin_> klauncher said: Unknown protocol ''.
[14:31] <sTratovariuZ> no i already installed it through my repository but i think i have a prob, i even tried to unistall and reinstall but the issue is still there
[14:31] <ghostcube> sTratovariuZ: this is adobe plugin ?
[14:31] <sTratovariuZ> quality! whatever i watch in streaming is bad quality and i asked my friend to watch the same link and it's good quality for them
[14:32] <sTratovariuZ> plus there's always a line in the middle of the screen whatever i watch in streaming
[14:32] <pumpkin_> so that's the error i'm getting now. I"m tool bars have come back however still no dice on a task bar at the bottom of the screen.
[14:32] <sTratovariuZ> ghostcube: the one that you can install from the repository it's called flashplugin-nonfree if im not wrong
[14:34] <ghostcube> is this firefox ?
[14:34] <pumpkin_> what do i do with that error message?
[14:35] <sTratovariuZ> ghostcube: u talking to me? yes i use ff3
[14:36] <ghostcube> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins   is there the flash plugin
[14:38] <pumpkin_> can anyone let me know what to do with that error message i copy/pasted? My tast bar is still MIA
[14:39] <sTratovariuZ> ivegot usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin_alternative.so and here usr/lib/flashplugin_nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[14:40] <sTratovariuZ> ghostcube: ivegot usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin_alternative.so and here usr/lib/flashplugin_nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[14:43] <ghostcube> sTratovariuZ: ty to softlink the libflashplayer into the firefox plugs
[14:44] <ghostcube> ln -sf /usr/lib/flashplugin_nonfree/libflashplayer.so  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[14:45] <sTratovariuZ> do i have to copy this all line in the terminal?
[15:18] <rpanini> gfdgfd
[15:18] <rpanini> gfdg
[15:18] <rpanini> fdg
[15:18] <rpanini> fdg
[15:18] <tiger0007> поставил себе kubuntu 8.04 может кто нибудь подсказать как в ней заставить работать acorp ds110 спутниковый ресивер?
[15:18] <favro> !ru
[15:19] <Serva> Hey, is there any channel for cars related banter?
[15:20] <favro> Serva: try here - http://searchirc.com/
[15:21] <Serva> tks favro, i'll try that.
[15:21] <favro> np :)
[15:22] <favro> http://searchirc.com/dir/Transportation/Auto - says he won't get much chat
[15:32] <spooky> hello to all of you
[15:32] <spooky> I am new to kubuntu and Linux
[15:32] <spooky> Try to replace windows
[15:33] <spooky> I need some help
[15:33] <jussi01> spooky: do you have something you need help with?
[15:33] <spooky> yes
[15:33] <jussi01> spooky: please ask :)
[15:33] <spooky> I am from Greece and I have two language installed . English and Greece
[15:34] <spooky> I need to know how to change language from keybord
[15:34] <spooky> Ctrl+shift for wxample
[15:34] <spooky> Like windows
[15:34] <spooky> Can you help me ?
[15:35] <jussi01> Hrm, Im notsure of that, have a look in system settings - keyboard and mouse
[15:35] <jussi01> look in the shorcuts part and see if you can see something.
[15:35] <jussi01> also look in regional settings as well
[15:37] <leaszumik> cual es la sala en spanish
[15:37] <Pici> !es | leaszumik
[15:44] <zimba12> hi
[15:45] <ngirard> Hi all. Sometimes my dsl modem hangs and I need a script that connects to the modem via telnet and reboots it. My modem is a D-Link DSL G-604T. Could someone gimme a hand on this ?
[15:45] <zimba12> where can I find the md5sum of Kubuntu 8.04.1 Kde4Remix ISO image file?
[15:46] <Freku> google ?
[15:46] <favro> !md5
[15:48] <zimba12> here (http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/MD5SUMS)
[15:49] <zimba12> I cannot find the md5 for my version (Kde4 Remix)
[15:51] <tictactatic> hi, any clues why add new widget, download from internet only returns two entries after upgrade to 4.1.1?/
[15:52] <favro> tictactatic: you'll have to ask in #kubuntu-kde4 for that
[15:53] <tictactatic> thanks favro
[15:53] <favro> np :)
[15:54] <Freku> its german site but there is md5 at end of page
[15:54] <Freku> http://www.kubuntu-de.org/download/hardy
[15:55] <Freku> sorry
[15:55] <Freku> this one
[15:55] <Freku> http://www.kubuntu-de.org/download-kubuntu-8-04-hardy-heron-kde4-remix-herunterladen
[15:58] <manuntero> irc://irc.freenode.org:6667/kdehispano
[15:58] <zimba12> thanks Freku
[15:59] <favro> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/hardy/release/MD5SUMS - is another
[16:02] <Freku> but that is not the remix version
[16:03] <favro> I wondered about that...
[16:09] <o0Chris0o> how do I set the settings for konversation and kopete to minimize to system tray and not show up in the task bar? is their such option? can't seem to find it
[16:10] <rickdisco> for konversation
[16:10] <rickdisco> go to settings -> configure konversation -> general
[16:10] <rickdisco> and you can tick a box to use the system tray
[16:11] <rickdisco> im pretty sure kopete does it automatically
[16:11] <rickdisco> but i could be wrong
[16:11] <stdin> settings for kopete in: Settings -> Configure -> Behaviour
[16:11] <o0Chris0o> I thought so too, but it still shows up in task bar
[16:11] <stdin> "Start with hidden main window"
[16:11] <stdin> or just click the tray icon to hide it
[16:12] <rickdisco> yeah, clicking the tray icons minimises the app to tray
[16:12] <ForgeAus> actually I thought both did by default
[16:12] <o0Chris0o> that worked for konversation
[16:12] <o0Chris0o> and kopete :D
[16:12] <rickdisco> nice :)
[16:13] <ForgeAus> I think when the window is open however both still show up in taskbar...
[16:13] <o0Chris0o> yeah thats fine
[16:18] <aaroncampbell> Where can I set printer margins on FireFox 3.0.1 on Linux?  I thought I used to go to "File->Page Setup" but that doesn't have margins anymore.  On my windows computer, 3.0.1 DOES have margins there, so it's only on my Kubuntu machine
[16:18] <trojan_> muahaha
[16:18] <trojan_> KIss my ass please
[16:19] <KRF> trojan_, i wont!
[16:19] <trojan_> чече
[16:19] <trojan_> я нз
[16:19] <trojan_> ЧТо ты дурак
[16:42] <o0Chris0o> stdin: you the man!
[16:44] <BraveSpear> Does anyone know how to disable to KMenu button using config files?  I want to only have a taskbar across the bottom of the screen to display running programs, with the system tray and clock in the corner.  Applications will be placed on the desktop.
[16:45] <BraveSpear> And I want to burn this configuration to a livecd, so I need to know the config files.
[16:50] <starenka> hi. gtk widget settings just disappeared from my KDE control center. How can i get this back?
[16:53] <o0Chris0o> !gtk
[16:53] <White_Pelican> what is the release schedule for intrepid?
[16:54] <Pici> !schedule-#ubuntu+1 | White_Pelican
[16:54] <Tm_T> !intrepid | White_Pelican
[16:54] <o0Chris0o> october I think
[16:54] <Tm_T> Pici: aww
[16:54] <White_Pelican> ty
[16:54] <o0Chris0o> its called white pelican?
[16:54] <o0Chris0o> o.0
[16:54] <o0Chris0o> oh nvm
[16:54] <o0Chris0o> haha man
[16:54] <White_Pelican> will there be any betas before release?
[16:55] <Tm_T> White_Pelican: ofcourse
[16:55] <o0Chris0o> there is now
[16:55] <White_Pelican> it's currently at alpha 5
[16:55] <White_Pelican> unless it hasn't hit the web site yet
[16:55] <Tm_T> o0Chris0o: beta? no, alpha is not beta, son
[16:56] <o0Chris0o> some ppl don't under stand the alpha/beta, I should of worded it differently so I said yes
[16:56] <o0Chris0o> my bad
[16:56] <White_Pelican> no worries
[16:56] <White_Pelican> I know the difference ;)
[16:57] <o0Chris0o> k good :)
[16:57] <White_Pelican> important question: an I still get kde 3 for intrepid if I wanted to?
[16:57] <o0Chris0o> is there testing phase after beta? I just know of alpha and beta
[16:57] <White_Pelican> am*
[16:57] <o0Chris0o> no :(
[16:57] <o0Chris0o> just 4.1
[16:57] <White_Pelican> not good
[16:57] <wfps_105> hi all
[16:57] <White_Pelican> can't believe Mark Shuttleworth agreed to this, and no i'm not trolling
[16:58] <wfps_105> may someone help me? Iäm having problems starting my old computer using ubuntu...
[16:58] <White_Pelican> hello wfps_105
[16:58] <Tm_T> White_Pelican: nobody is stopping you to help packaging kde3 to intrepid
[16:58] <geek> wfps_105: what kinda problem/computer specifically?
[16:58] <White_Pelican> what's the problem?
[16:58] <o0Chris0o> 4.1 is nice, needs some more features, hopefully they will add more before a final release
[16:58] <White_Pelican> Tm_T, I am not a developer
[16:58] <Tm_T> White_Pelican: you are
[16:59] <wfps_105> ehm... it won't start... I got all the bios stuff and then a black screen with a little _ appears... nothing more happens :(
[16:59] <White_Pelican> ?
[16:59] <o0Chris0o> everyone is :D
[16:59] <White_Pelican> how old is your computer?
[16:59] <wfps_105> I installed ubuntu on the computer's harddrive from my computer
[16:59] <wfps_105> about 4 years
[16:59] <wfps_105> 512 MB ram, think it's a 2,2GHz processor..
[16:59] <Tm_T> that's not old then
[16:59] <wfps_105> (upgraded)
[16:59] <White_Pelican> video card?
[17:00] <wfps_105> well old for me :P
[17:00] <wfps_105> no Idea... all I can tell it's not pci-express xD
[17:00] <geek> lol
[17:00] <White_Pelican> oic
[17:01] <geek> wfps_105: hmm, might be the video card. tried safe mode?
[17:01] <White_Pelican> so you successfully ran through the install?
[17:01] <wfps_105> I'm not getting to that point :P
[17:01] <wfps_105> Yes, I did
[17:01] <wfps_105> can't start safe mode
[17:01] <White_Pelican> single user mode, maybe?
[17:01] <wfps_105> how?
[17:01] <geek> naw, if its an issue with X single user mode won't do anything
[17:02] <o0Chris0o> wfps_105:  go to the KDE info center to find out what video card you have kmenu>system>kinfocenter
[17:02] <wfps_105> oh
[17:02] <wfps_105> ok
[17:02] <wfps_105> wait
[17:02] <geek> lol
[17:03] <geek> he can't get into x
[17:03] <geek> wfps_105: at the flashing - try control alternate and some f key
[17:03] <wfps_105> foound it
[17:03] <wfps_105> nVidia NV20 Ti200 64MB  (lol)
[17:03] <o0Chris0o> :)
[17:04] <wfps_105> but it has been running XP
[17:04] <o0Chris0o> did you enable the proprioter drivers?
[17:04] <wfps_105> so I don't think that's the problem, but I don't know :P
[17:05] <wfps_105> (geForce 3 xD)
[17:05] <o0Chris0o> go to kmenu>system>Hardware drivers manager and make sure its enabled
[17:05] <wfps_105> kmenu?
[17:06] <wfps_105> bios?
[17:06] <o0Chris0o> are you logged onto KDE?
[17:06] <wfps_105> wtf KDE? xD
[17:06] <wfps_105> Ubuntu won't start
[17:06] <wfps_105> just getting a black screen with a blinking _ on the left upper corner
[17:07] <ForgeAus> why are you in #Kubuntu if your asking about Ubuntu?... theres an #ubuntu for that
[17:07] <wfps_105> after all bios info
[17:07] <wfps_105> oh
[17:07] <geek> wfps_105: try the other virtual terminals?
[17:07] <wfps_105> but.. there were too many ppl =/
[17:07] <ForgeAus> wfps looks like grub isn't intsalled for you correctly btw
[17:07] <wfps_105> noone was answering
[17:07] <ForgeAus> !grub
[17:07]  * Tm_T slaps rickdisco|away 
[17:07] <ForgeAus> (this may help... or may not)
[17:08] <wfps_105> ok
[17:08] <wfps_105> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates.
[17:08] <wfps_105> =/
[17:09] <ForgeAus> uh? did you paste it correctly?
[17:10] <zanberdo> I'm running kubuntu hardy and I'd like to change the default Documents folder to documents.  If I merely rename the folder, the system menu shortcut in my applet panel which points to Documents fails.  How can I point the system menu to the new documents?
[17:10] <wfps_105> yeah ,the other link worked :)
[17:10] <wfps_105> The system Flash ROM has been corrupted"
[17:12] <wfps_105> uh... Gonna try to find any solution, thanks for all your help anyway!'
[17:13] <brewmaster> anyone recommend a cheap printer that works flawlessly in kubuntu?
[17:14] <o0Chris0o> !printer
[17:19] <zanberdo> it appears that system menu derives the list of available menus from /usr/share/apps/systemview where I have found documents.desktop.  Looking at documents.desktop reveals a call to kio_system_documenthelper which is a script that resides in /usr/bin.  This script in turn calls kde-config to echo the "installation path" for the user folder documents.
[17:19] <zanberdo> This leaves me wondering: how do I change the "installation path" for documents from Documents to documents?
[17:22] <steven__> hello steven!
[17:23] <steven__> whats up?
[17:23] <juanadolfo> dsd
[17:23] <juanadolfo> anth
[17:23] <juanadolfo> the
[17:23] <juanadolfo> gays
[17:23] <juanadolfo> gay
[17:23] <steven> hi steven__!
[17:24] <Jucato> !guidelines | juanadolfo
[17:24] <steven> whats up?
[17:24] <juanadolfo> :O
[17:24] <juanadolfo_> kksl
[17:26] <o0Chris0o> what is the name for the windows font package?
[17:27] <stdin> !font
[17:28] <o0Chris0o> ty
[17:29] <aaroncampbell> Where can I set printer margins on FireFox 3.0.1 on Linux?  I thought I used to go to "File->Page Setup" but that doesn't have margins anymore.  On my windows computer, 3.0.1 DOES have margins there, so it's only on my Kubuntu machine
[17:31] <cosmofield> hi, can anyone please help me, I have installed kubuntu alternate with command line system only and later 'sudo apt-get install kdebase' but kde won't start with 'startx' command, what have I missed? :/
[17:32] <stdin> any reason you installed a command-line system then KDE?
[17:32] <geek> cosmofield: try installing kdm?
[17:32] <cosmofield> because I want to select only the programs that I use, not openoffice aso
[17:34] <surgy> hello
[17:35] <cosmofield> thx, I will try that :)
[17:35] <surgy> I turned my computer off last night, and when i turned it back on just now my resolution is set at 640x480, and that as high as it says it supports. I have a geforce 8800gt using envy.
[17:36] <surgy> do i just need to reinstall my video card? and why did this happen?
[17:37] <o0Chris0o> did you enable your proprioter drivers?
[17:37] <geek> !envy
[17:37] <geek> >_> last i remembered envy was 'no don't use it ever' o0
[17:37] <surgy> so should i uninstall it?
[17:38] <surgy> if so how do i do it?
[17:38] <stdin> use the Hardware Drivers Manager if you can, only if that fails try envyng (if you really want to)
[17:38] <surgy> stdin: i allready used envy. how do i get rid of it so i can use the hardware drivers manager?
[17:39] <stdin> I have no idea, I've never used it
[17:40] <o0Chris0o> try googlin it, or go to the website you installed it from, should have instructions
[17:41] <surgy> lol i dont install things from websites :)
[17:42] <zanberdo> sorry to repeat this question, but I've had to reload a different irc client, so I am reposting (and rewording) my question from 10 miuntes ago. Again, sorry for the duplication.
[17:42] <zanberdo>  have been working with kde via kubuntu hardy for the last few months.  I want to change the user documents path from /home/user/Documents to /home/user/documents.  Specifically with respect to the System Menu applet in the applet panel.  I've found that the System Menu applet lists paths based on .desktop files found in /usr/share/apps/systemview.  I have looked at documents.desktop and find it's path is set by
[17:43] <zanberdo>  /usr/bin/kio_system_documenthelper which get's the path to /home/user/Documents from kde-config --userpath documents.  This is where my trail ends.  kde-config states that it outputs installation paths.  So - how do I change the installation path for /home/user/Documents to /home/user/documents?
[17:43] <zanberdo> note: I realize I could merely replace the path in documents.desktop to reflect my personal path, but that would not solve the problem with dolphin, which I suspect also uses the installation path when displaying the bookmark to documents, nor would it resolve the issue for other users...
[17:45] <jussi01> zanberdo: just amke a symbolic link...
[17:48] <zanberdo> jussi01: ok - however, where am I making this symlink? As I stated, I can easily edit the documents.desktop file to point to whatever path I wish, but it won't solve the issue of where kde-config points.
[17:49] <jussi01> zanberdo: from /home/user/Documents to /home/user/documents
[17:50] <jussi01> so when it looks at the first, its redirected to the second...
[17:50] <zanberdo> jussi01: yes, that could work. it's a bit of a kluge though....
[17:51] <jussi01> true..
[17:52] <zanberdo> jussi01: I've found (with a suggestion from #kde) that kcontrol -> system administrion -> paths exposes the installation path I seek.
[17:52] <phoenixz> Is there anybody here who knows if there is work being done on knetwork manager and / or adept manager? (if possible, for KDE4 even??) thing is.. they.. the idea is great, but the implementation barely works, and is very problematic at best.. specially the knetwork manager.. Any hopes on newer versions of those??
[17:52] <zanberdo> I take it you have specific issues you'd like to see added/fixed?
[17:53] <zanberdo> jussi01: the equivelant location in System Settings is about me -> pathes...
[17:53] <zanberdo> jussi01: in case you where curious... since kcontrol is not defined in k menu for kubuntu...
[17:54] <phoenixz> zanberdo: well.. first off, a KDE4 specific implementation would be cool :) adept-manager could use a bit more cleaner layout.. stability is a great point too for that package!! Its too easy to have it crash
[17:54] <phoenixz> zanberdo: knetworkmanager.. well, just check google :) there is a plethora of problems there..
[17:55] <phoenixz> zanberdo: misterious disconnects, crashes, etc etc etc..
[17:55] <ns8> #kubuntu-es
[17:55] <zanberdo> phoenixz: well, I don't use adept-manager gui - I use the cli and haven't ever had an issue.  As for knetworkmanager, I only use it to connect to wireless networks and find it works adequately, but that's just me.
[18:00] <phoenixz> zanberdo: well.. Lets just say that the average joe user doesnt want to use the command line, they want the app :) and if it keeps crashing, they'll run back crying to windows...
[18:00] <BeefotronX> ahoyy
[18:05] <FuriousGeorge> hey all.  im trying to install the closed nvidia drivers.  i do an apt-get --install nvidia-glx and i dont get the module file:  nvidia.ko
[18:06] <zanberdo> phoenixz: this speaks to a much bigger issue.  Firstly, application stability is crutial no matter the users level of understanding, so there is no debate there - and application should work well.  However, there is the other issue you mention regarding users running back to windows.  At what point should we in the community stop caring?  Yes, we'd all like to see linux a success, and for those of us who use it (and have used
[18:06] <zanberdo> it for years) we can be proud of the strides that have been made.  But at what point to we have to say enough is enough? If windows users want to use windows, let them.  Just as mac uses will use mac.  linux users choose to use linux for a variety of reasons and we've come to expect that if something is broken we have an opportunity to fix it (unlike windows and mac users).  At the very least we have an obligation to open bugs
[18:06] <zanberdo> with the developers of a specific applicaiton if we've found a flaw to help the developers write solutions.  Have you researched the specific issues you have with adept-manager and/or knetworkmanager to see if anyone has reported the probelms, and if not have you yourself reported them?
[18:06] <stdin> FuriousGeorge: install linux-restricted-modules
[18:08] <zanberdo> FuriousGeorge: apt-get install nvidia-glx-new I should think would solve the issue.  Which nvidia card do you have installed?
[18:15] <FuriousGeorge> zanberdo: nvidia 73000 as per lspi
[18:16] <FuriousGeorge> i hadnt install linux restricted like stdin said
[18:16] <FuriousGeorge> and i was doing nvidia-glx, not nvidia-glx-new
[18:16] <Bikerbob> anyone help me change the device I need to use in Xorg.conf to get my video going?
[18:18] <jav_> hola
[18:19] <zanberdo> FuriousGeorge: I'm running the 7600 and had previously installed the 7300.  I'm running kubuntu hardy and I merely installed nvidia-glx-new which did the trick.  The restricted drivers module should install the nvidia driver, as well as any other restricted modules you require (for say wireless, etc).
[18:20] <zanberdo> FuriousGeorge: you may still need to configure xorg.conf however.  You might need to installed nvidia-xconfig, running it, then remove it and install nvidia-settings (that's if nvidia-xconfig didn't get installed when you install nvidia-glx-new
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> zanberdo: i see.  well i installed both just to be safe before i saw what you said.  xorg.conf is working now
[18:21] <tobor_> !wiki
[18:21] <zanberdo> FuriousGeorge: very good.  You should not be able to user nvidia-settings to configure it.  Be sure to run it as sudo or your changes will not be written to xorg.conf
[18:21] <FuriousGeorge> now i gotta find out why my ltsp clients boot to the initramfs prompt :)
[18:21] <tobor_> FuriousGeorge: they stop there?
[18:23] <tobor_> FuriousGeorge: #ltsp cam help you
[18:23] <tobor_> *can
[18:25] <xomp> !purekde
[18:27] <k_laus> hello . after update kde wont start but stays black (intrepid) ... :(
[18:28] <k_laus> has anybody any idea?
[18:28] <stdin> intrepid help in #ubuntu+1
[18:30] <FuriousGeorge> tobor_: yeah, i was about to ask in there...  hmmm...  wokring now for some reason
[18:31] <FuriousGeorge> all i did was reboot server when i stopped messing with ltsp and started with nvidia
[18:32] <FuriousGeorge> i rule!  :)
[18:35] <FuriousGeorge> wahwahweewah, even sound works
[18:36] <FuriousGeorge> gotta hand it to you *buntus
[18:37] <xomp>  hello, I'm getting this error when starting up eclipse, can someone point me to where I can find this file? A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations: /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/bin/java
[18:40] <trappist> !java
[18:40] <Tm_T> root: are we rooted now?
[18:41] <xomp> thanks trappist :)
[18:50] <o0Chris0o> by any chance anyone know how to remove the Bookmark toolbar on firefox 3.0
[18:51] <crimsun> o0Chris0o: remove or not display?
[18:51] <crimsun> o0Chris0o: if the latter, View> Toolbars> uncheck Bookmarks Toolbar
[18:52] <o0Chris0o> that will work too :)
[18:52] <o0Chris0o> ty
[18:52] <o0Chris0o> go figure, always the simple things lol
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> ive just removed compiz and have no default window decorators
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> how can I get them back please
[19:01] <o0Chris0o> I used to remember, its been awhile
[19:01] <o0Chris0o> try the compiz channel if no one replies here
[19:01] <o0Chris0o> !compiz
[19:02] <dekans> ActionParsnip: in system->preferences->appearance, try to deactivate desktop effetcs
[19:02] <dekans> hum
[19:02] <dekans> #kubuntu :p
[19:02] <dekans> so
[19:03] <dekans> you must have a kde-desktop-effects
[19:03] <dekans> or something like that, try it in a konsole
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> ill just install fluxbox, tried and tested :D
[19:12] <DreadKnight> how the heck do i install deb files in kubuntu kde4 mix ?
[19:12] <danny> Can someone PLEASE help a noob?
[19:13] <Tm_T> !helpme
[19:13] <danny> I can't install any tar ed packages
[19:13] <pgib> anyone know the ubuntu repos for kde-4 SVN? I thought http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu was it, but it seems frozen on 4.1
[19:13] <Tm_T> pgib: there is none IIRC
[19:13] <Tm_T> !build
[19:14] <danny> thanks. I'll read and try
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> ahh much better
[19:14] <pgib> hmm. usually don't mind installing software from souce
[19:14] <pgib> but I'll probably screw someting up if I try to manage all of KDE myself. thanks though ubottu
[19:15] <pgib> I guess I will have to wait for 4.2....
[19:15] <pgib> I mean, Tm_T
[19:16] <Haxxaz> hello what is best for gaming ubuntu ore kubuntu
[19:17] <Tm_T> Haxxaz: whatever suits you best
[19:17] <Haxxaz> oh
[19:17] <Daisuke_Ido> the only difference is the default desktop environment and a few of the included apps
[19:18] <Haxxaz> ok
[19:18] <danny> Has anyone here tried running two audio cards? I have a Soundblaster live and an onboard AC97 chip. Oddly enough it's the Onboard that won't work
[19:18] <danny> forums have left me dazed and confused.
[19:19] <Haxxaz> yesterday i did install wine on kubuntu and i lagged ass hell
[19:19] <Freku> yeah i got the same thing
[19:19] <Freku> onboard doesnt work
[19:19] <Haxxaz> and in ubuntu wine dosent lag
[19:20] <danny> I'm gonna try the driver from Realtek but it's been fighting me for ten hours straight
[19:20] <Freku> i stopped trying
[19:20] <Freku> :)
[19:20] <danny> lol... I'll keep ya posted
[19:20] <Haxxaz> any 1 now why
[19:20] <Haxxaz> i like kubuntu but i most game in it
[19:21] <pgib> Haxxaz: try turning off desktop effects?
[19:21] <pgib> would be an interesting variable
[19:22] <Haxxaz> i only have standard i havent instaled tings like beryl
[19:22] <pgib> Haxxaz: Beryl is out of date anyways
[19:22] <pgib> Haxxaz: I'm talking about kwin's desktop effects
[19:22] <Haxxaz> compis fusion i dident remember the name
[19:23] <Haxxaz> how do i turn it off
[19:23] <Haxxaz> i em new to whole linux thing
[19:23] <pgib> System Settings
[19:23] <Haxxaz> and
[19:23] <pgib> and look for it
[19:23] <danny> Same here.... Been in it 24 hours... Can't stand having EVERYTHING come through headphone
[19:23] <pgib> btw, what game are you trying to run? most new stuff will be slow or not work at all in Linux
[19:24] <pgib> It's not really designed for running Window's games as  of yet
[19:24] <Haxxaz> wow in whine 3dmark patch
[19:24] <Haxxaz> wine*
[19:25] <Haxxaz> i have a shared hdd whit 2 partisions c and d if i delete c and install kubuntu on it is my d drive deleted as vell
[19:25] <pgib> no
[19:25] <Haxxaz> all my importent files is on d drive
[19:25] <Haxxaz> ok
[19:25] <pgib> unless you rearrange your partition sizes
[19:26] <Haxxaz> ok
[19:26] <Haxxaz> shall i sett it up manuell
[19:26] <pgib> I usually use fdisk and mkfs.ext2 or mkfs.resiser
[19:27] <pgib> but, you probably want a graphical tool. I think KDE has one in System Settings
[19:27] <Haxxaz> it is 2 ntfs drives
[19:27] <Haxxaz> dev/sda1 and dev/sda2 what is c and d
[19:27] <pgib> OK
[19:28] <pgib> and you want to delete the filesystem on  sda1 and make it what?
[19:28] <Haxxaz> yea
[19:28] <pgib> that isn't an answer
[19:28] <pgib> what file system are you wanting to change sda1 into?
[19:28] <Haxxaz> i want my c drive to be kubuntu becuse all my files is on d
[19:29] <danny> Okay so an update on the AC97 drivers..... Following directions does not work... lol
[19:30] <pgib> Haxxaz:
[19:30] <Haxxaz> ?
[19:31] <Haxxaz> can wee take this in pm
[19:31] <pgib> ok.. well technically you can just use  mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[19:31] <Haxxaz> in termilan
[19:31] <pgib> that will remove your C: and replace it with a linux partition
[19:31] <Haxxaz> terminal
[19:32] <pgib> then you need to add it to your /etc/fstab
[19:32] <pgib> anyways - I'm getting back to work. That should be enough info for you
[19:32] <Haxxaz> yea thanks i can open my d drive on live cd is that a good thing
[19:33] <pgib> why would that be bad?
[19:33] <Haxxaz> duno i em new to linux so youst asking
[19:33] <pgib> hehe -- livecd will try and mount as much stuff as possible
[19:33] <pgib> I guess you need to do: umount /dev/sda1  before running mkfs.ext3
[19:33] <Haxxaz> ok
[19:33] <pgib> or look online for how to create one in the GUI
[19:34] <pgib> I have no idea - never used it personally
[19:34] <Haxxaz> ok thanks mate
[19:34] <krager> anyone else running into the perl problems doing a dist-upgrade to alpha5 from hardy?
[19:34] <pgib> triple-check that you are working with the right partition before running those comamands. You don't want to clobber something important
[19:34] <Haxxaz> no
[19:35] <stdin> krager: intrepid help in #ubuntu+1
[19:35] <danny> so running the config on these drivers I get to "Checking for kernel version... 0.0.0"
[19:35] <Haxxaz> thank u wery mutch pgib
[19:36] <danny> The next line line reads checking for GCC version ... ./configure: 2735: Bad Substitution
[19:36] <krager> Haxxaz, qtparted is on the kubuntu live cd, that is a nice GUI for ppartitioning and formatting
[19:36] <danny> anyone got any ideas at all?
[19:36] <pgib> krager: thanks, thats the tool I was thinking about
[19:37] <krager> pgib, I use it as a last resort, gparted is a lot better I think, but it's not on the cd
[19:41] <sourcemaker> join kubuntu-de
[19:41] <sourcemaker> join #kubuntu-de
[19:42] <pgib> krager: but fdisk and friends is the best ;-)
[19:43] <krager> oh yes, but for basic stuff GUI is diable
[19:43] <krager> doable
[19:43] <krager> danny: what drivers?
[19:43] <pgib> yeah, something can be said about representing it graphically
[19:44] <arminre> tesdt
[19:44] <krager> test failed, extra d
[19:46] <sourcemaker> what is the best professional finance application for ubuntu with hcbi support?
[19:47] <kkathman> when you are attempting to share a folder, and you click to start the applet, Im getting that it failed to start...but no error...how to fix this ??
[19:49] <krager> you can right click on a folder to share it, the share option is on one of the tabs
[19:49] <kkathman> krager but ONLY the files in your home directory which is stupid
[19:49] <krager> oh sorry, misread the q
[19:50] <krager> kkath: no it's not, you can share any you have permission for
[19:50] <danny> I take it it's not normal to get tossed back to login?
[19:50] <krager> or allow to be shared, but basic security means, do not share odd stuff
[19:50] <kkathman> krager IF you can get the applet to start
[19:51] <kkathman> otherwise you get a message that says you can only share things in your home folder
[19:52] <krager> yes, you basically d not have permissions to share folders outside your home
[19:52] <kkathman> thats just stupid
[19:53] <kkathman> so I have to be root to set the sharing then
[19:53] <krager> I think it os a lot more secure, nothing to stop you elevating your user account to have full access everywhere
[19:53] <kkathman> I kinda refuse to believe that I cannot share anything I want to
[19:54] <krager> what are you wanting to share?  what directory
[19:55] <krager> I just share all my stuff by logging in using fish in konqueror, gives me full access and no need to create shares
[19:58] <bobbo85> Can I have both amarok and amarok beta installed at the same time?
[19:59] <krager> is amarok beta available as a deb?
[19:59] <bobbo85> iiiii think so, i don't remember how i got it installed to be honest
[19:59] <bobbo85> i think i downloaded a deb though
[19:59] <krager> if it's amarok 2 beta, you can in hardy, dunno about intrepid
[20:00] <krager> in hardy kde4 and stuff is installed in /opt rather than under /usr
[20:00] <stdin> !neon
[20:02] <cosmofield> hi again, I still have problem with my alternate install, I now have kde-core and kdm installed but when I boot the computer, I must log in manually, and when i enter the  'startx' command, then I got an error message such as 'unable to lock Xauthority', any ideas? I tried do a full install but the system freezed at 91% with a 'please wait...' message so I must use a console installation :/
[20:03] <kkathman> krager - Im trying to share, at the moment, a directory in my local webserver so I can copy (backup) the files from there to another computer
[20:03] <kkathman> the webserver is in /var/www/htdocs/<mydomain>
[20:04] <kkathman> so I want to move all those to another computer
[20:04] <krager> is the other computer Linux?
[20:04] <kkathman> nope windows
[20:04] <kkathman> I think I'll just ln -s that directory to the home folder
[20:05] <kkathman> then I can copy it
[20:05] <krager> well, that folder will be owned by www
[20:08] <krager> shame  it's a wondows box, ssh and fish would have been ideal, the way I would do it is just zip up the contents and transfer like that
[20:09] <kkathman> well krager  there are other kinds of computers in the world :)
[20:10] <kkathman> sigh... mixed environments
[20:10] <krager> unfortunately ones that do not talk very well to others
[20:10] <krager> have you tried making yourself a memeber of the www group under users and groups settings?
[20:17] <Freku> use samba ?
[20:17] <ronnie_> hi linux buddys =)
[20:18] <martin__> Hi Im new to Kubuntu and I was wondering if it's possible to install firefox3 or opera in a KDE environnement
[20:19] <krager> yes
[20:19] <krager> if you go to adept and search for firefox, it will install for you
[20:20] <krager> go to the opera website and it will have a deb file, dl it and click on it and it will install
[20:20] <ronnie_> is ubuntu suppose tobe more stable than kubuntu?, also any use ubuntu/kubuntu studio?, is it stable?
[20:20] <martin__> ok, but i only see firefox 1 and 2
[20:20] <krager> what version of kubuntu do you have?
[20:20] <martin__> i just tried it gave me a corrupted file
[20:21] <martin__> 8.04
[20:21] <ronnie_> same here kubuntu 8.04
[20:21] <krager> can you try this?  open the konsole and type 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[20:22] <krager> ubuntu / kubuntu are they same, just different desktops
[20:22] <o0Chris0o> different flavors oo la la
[20:23] <martin__> wont that get me firefox 1?
[20:23] <ronnie_> ok thx some guy just told me ubuntu with gnome desktop was more stable, ty again
[20:23] <krager> default is 3 in 8.04
[20:24] <krager> it's down to taste, what desktop you like, nothing to stop you having KDE and Gnome installed, I do
[20:24] <martin__> ok will try, and I just redownloaded opera and got the file xxxxxxxxxxx is a binary and saving it will result in corruption
[20:24] <krager> right click and save as on the link
[20:26] <ronnie_> thx again krager, so kubuntu studio is the same just tons more media programs, hmmm, hope it has the same kewl games like hardyheroin = )
[20:26] <martin__> ok thx for the firefox bit worked like a charm\
[20:26] <krager> you can also install the ubuntu studio as well
[20:27] <ronnie_> ya gu4ess 80gigs is lots of room I don't even have 25% of it used = )
[20:30] <ronnie_> i'm avoiding kde4 , cause i will just load 8.10 oct 30th (hopefully) anyway, but I do have an older 2gig desktop maybe ill try it for something todo this friday night =)
[20:31] <krager> I am updating a PC to intrepid at the moment
[20:31] <krager> and having a few beers while it chugs away
[20:32] <ronnie_> thx again krager, now i won't have to burn a cd only to discover it's the same kubuntu/ubuntu, oh but it is alpha still plenty-O-bugs~! hehe
[20:33] <krager> I used to run debian sid, so I am used to things going wonky, besides I like to try and fix bugs, helps you get to know the system
[20:34] <Bauldrick> is system-cleaner in hardy?
[20:35] <ronnie_> kubuntu has worked great for me!, my webcam automatically worked, my midi plug hooked to my keyboard (musical), almost everything except.....the dreaded dvd's haha
[20:35] <krager> no package called system-cleaner I can see
[20:36] <krager> ronnie, have you added the medibuntu repositories?
[20:36] <ronnie_> as always it says you need = libdvdss something program installed, no I don't thing i did
[20:38] <krager> go to http://www.medibuntu.org/ and follow the instructions
[20:38] <ronnie_> k thx ill try it = )
[20:38] <krager> if you are a musician, you will like a lot of other stuff there
[20:39] <ronnie_> hmm kewl is it like ubuntu studio stuff?
[20:39] <ronnie_> i bookmarked it
[20:41] <krager> no, stuff that cannot be in the main ubuntu for legal reasons
[20:42] <ronnie_> ok kewl ill check it out, you know anything about adding a second hdd to a system?, like how to set the jumper switches? master/slave etc...
[20:42] <martin__> hi it's me again I need to get flash witch version sould i get the tar.gz, the .rpm or the YUM?
[20:44] <krager> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:44] <krager> or use adept to find it
[20:45] <martin__> ok
[20:45] <lawi_> toshiba wireless? Anyone?
[20:45] <krager> kubuntu does not use yum or rpm's
[20:46] <krager> do you know what chipset your toshiba has?
[20:47] <martin__> thx again
[20:47] <lawi_> yap. intel 965gm
[20:48] <ronnie_> i tried playing a trial game through wine, "world of warcraft" is seem to load ok till I tried to actually play, it showed sub menu's like (map) (weapons) (quest list) etc...but whole view screen was bright pink~!! how gay!, any get that game to work?
[20:49] <krager> no, but HL2, couterstrike, guildwars works for me (that's kinda all I play)
[20:50] <ronnie_> oh ya you reminded me I forgot to bookmark a sight that had good games that work well under ubuntu, =)
[20:50] <ronnie_> ill search for it again
[20:51] <Bauldrick> ronnie_: you hook your keyboard up to pc, you/anyone know of piano lesson software like in that other OS
[20:51] <krager> winehq, under the app database? if it's games under wine
[20:54] <ronnie_> not really Bauldrick I just searched for freeware/shareware musical keyboard software, even found some worked with wine cause they were exe. windows programs = )
[20:56] <ronnie_> im useing a M-audio plug, midi to usb, just lucky it worked ok under the timidy program in kubuntu = )
[21:00] <ronnie_> thats what I'll do tonight, try out kubuntu studio, kde4 or 8.10 intrepid, lmao@ hearing the next versions possible name "jaunty jakalope" too stupid too be taken seriously as usual haha
[21:01] <krager> will 9.04 be Killer Koala?
[21:01] <krager> 9.10
[21:01] <ronnie_> i do love linux!!, just like to smack the guy who comes up with thoses names! hehe, hmmm didn't see that when searching maybe
[21:03] <krager> Mark Shuttleworth comes up with them
[21:04] <ronnie_> diverting satalite warhead to tracking his location now...beep!...beep!....lol
[21:04] <krager> I like them
[21:05] <ronnie_> some are ok i guess, =)  & whats in a name or some famous saying like that haha
[21:06] <pgib> What is wrong Adept??? I search for simple stuff in it and the packages do not show up
[21:06] <pgib> but I can install them from the command line.. What gives?
[21:07] <krager> pgip, I ditched adept and installed synaptic, it's much better
[21:07] <pgib> for example: I search for "flash" and flashplayer-nonfree doesn't show up
[21:07] <ronnie_> the new system usually does amaze me with tons of kewl software, come on intrepid, ooo can't wait, = )
[21:08] <krager> 8.04 ditched a lot of software I was using, mainly GIS stuff
[21:09] <ronnie_> ya know sometimes I'm srry when i update, last one I did somehow stopped my limewire music software from working = (  , guess ill have to reinstall, np
[21:10] <krager> That's why I will not be updating my laptop until about Xmas as I need it everyday and want to make sure everything is right before I do
[21:10] <pgib> they should just remove adept since it is totally dysfunctional
[21:10] <krager> I is getting better
[21:11] <krager> s/I/It
[21:13] <ronnie_> like the saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it!, i might just use what works & never update, I don't really care bout security, viruses, etc, I just don't ever open emails I didn't ask for =)
[21:13] <Bauldrick> wheres yer sense of adventure
[21:13] <krager> lol
[21:13] <Bauldrick> :)
[21:14] <ronnie_> ya well its usually, youve! just! won! a brand new laptop! click here! lol
[21:14] <krager> Forward them to a webmail account and ask if you can check you email using a friends windows pc
[21:14] <ronnie_> ya true hehe
[21:15] <seba> !es
[21:15] <mifauna> hello
[21:16] <maco> hey guys, can anyone reproduce bug 270750 for me?
[21:18] <Bauldrick> mifauna: hi
[21:20] <bbuss> maco: Yep, i can reproduce it here
[21:20] <maco> bbuss: want to mark it confirmed so you can add it to your 5-a-day?
[21:21] <bbuss> maco: i don't have an 5-a-day :P (Just new here =])
[21:21] <pesepes> irc.freenode.net
[21:22] <maco> bbuss: ok i'll mark it
[21:22] <pesepes>  canale IRC #ubuntu-it-doc nel server irc.freenode.net.
[21:22] <pesepes> HELP ME
[21:22] <jussi01> pesepes: type /join #ubuntu-it-doc
[21:24] <gae> ciao
[21:24] <gae> !list
[21:27] <Jason2gs> join #xubuntu
[21:27] <Jason2gs> oops
[21:28] <ofv> my monitor turns black after some time of inactivity. after some more time, the monitor goes o power-saving mode. I have no screens-saver, nor power-savings settings.
[21:29] <ofv> what could cause this?
[21:30] <krager> ofv: default settings, go into the system settings and change them to your desire
[21:31] <ofv> thanks krager, but as I've explained, the screen saver is disabled on "System settings"->"Desktop"->"Screen saver"
[21:31] <ofv> or there is some other place where to look?
[21:33] <krager> do you have any laptop features installed, power manager etc.
[21:33] <administrator_> hey all
[21:34] <krager> klaptop or similar, that will turn off the screen
[21:34] <administrator_> i just recently installed the nvidia binary kernel module.  everything worked great, until i restarted just now and the nvidia.ko file is missing
[21:34] <ofv> krager: no. this is not a laptop.
[21:34] <krager> I think it gets installed by default
[21:34] <administrator_> if i try to modprobe manually im told it should be in /lib/modules/'uname -r'/volitile (or something
[21:35] <Glady> volitile
[21:35] <Glady> like in chicken?
[21:35] <administrator_> anyway, i know i successfully had it working before, but the module appears to have disappeared randomly after this last reboot
[21:36] <administrator_> if i apt-get install nvidia-glx-new or linux-restricted-drivers, even after i purge them, i dont get it back
[21:37] <administrator_> but perhaps even more concerning is that the file would just disappear...  i checked my raid array, which is fine
[21:37] <krager> did you install the driver by hand, try using envy
[21:37] <Glady> nvidia
[21:37] <administrator_> krager: envy?
[21:37] <krager> you probably forgot to link them, I have not used nvidia drivers for years
[21:37] <edoceo> I run 'sudo aptitude install openvpn' in a shell script, under an if statement.  However, it seems that the script continues before aptitude is done
[21:38] <Glady> nvidia envy raid
[21:38] <edoceo> Anyone see something funny like that?  Is there some double forking in aptitude?
[21:38] <krager> if you install a package called envyng-qt, it should auto install the latest drivers for nvidia or ati and do it alll properly
[21:38] <administrator_> krager: thanks, ill try that
[21:40] <administrator_> krager: installing it now...  the hardware manager that installed with kde crashed with a sig11 out of the box, since then ive had issues getting this working
[21:42] <administrator_> krager: thanks that worked.  (i think).  it says is should restart so ill do that, rather than just manually load the module and restart X
[21:42] <administrator_> just in case
[21:42] <administrator_> so i gotta run, thanks again
[21:44] <bbbs> hello
[21:44] <jasiekmarc> hi
[21:45] <bbbs> i have windows xp and vista installed on my computer. i figured kubuntu would detect my partitions during the install. but i'm at a screen that gives me two options. use entire disk and manual. when selecting manual it doesnt show my other partitions
[21:46] <bbbs> i have about 5 partitions all ntfs
[21:46] <bbbs> under manual it shows /dev/sda with format blank. it lumped all my partitions into one and doesn't know the format?
[21:54] <bbbs> how's kde 4.00
[21:54] <krager> kde4.00 is old, 4.1.1 is shaping up very nice
[21:55] <pesepes> #kubuntu-it
[21:56] <krager> bbbs, if you just want to try kubuntu, use the wubi option, installs it as an app in windoze
[21:57] <pesepes> #ubuntu-it-chat
[21:57] <jussi01> pesepes: type: /join #channelname
[21:57] <Firefishe> Is kubuntu's synaptic able to be used in a stock debian install?  I much prefer kubuntu's synaptic over stock debian's, and kubuntu's has it's repositories available for selection via a list.  I'd like to set up my stock debian synaptic this way.  Tried asking in #debian, but all I got was info on cron jobs for switching my sources.list file at certain times...weird.
[21:58] <bbuss> Firefishe: "Kubuntu's synaptics" is Adept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept_Package_Manager
[21:58] <krager> I would say no.  but you can get the source code for each and compile it yourself
[21:59] <Firefishe> bbuss:  oh, i see.  Is synaptic then just being used for a front-end to adept in the newest  ubuntus?
[21:59] <Firefishe> or has it been deprecated completely?>
[22:00] <bbuss> Firefishe: No... Adept and Synaptic, both are a front-end to apt.
[22:00] <bbuss> Anyway.... Debian has a package for adept: http://packages.debian.org/etch/adept
[22:01] <bbuss> So i think it should work :P
[22:01] <krager> adept and synaptic are two different apps, synaptic is gnome, adept KDE, I prefer synaptic to adept
[22:01] <alexey__> hello
[22:01] <bbuss> hi
[22:02] <Firefishe> krager:  okay, I guess that the ubuntu developers in charge of creating the synaptic package for the ubuntus probably wrote in some new code for the menu system to use it for listing repositories.  Synaptic would be what then?  GTK built?
[22:03] <krager> yes
[22:03] <krager> As I said, you can get the source code and compile it yourself
[22:07] <Firefishe> krager:  thanks
[22:07] <Firefishe> bye for now
[22:09] <reinis_> guys
[22:09] <reinis_> who can help me with installing skype and setting up on ubuntu 8.04?
[22:10] <krager> reinis, use the medibuntu repos and install it from there
[22:10] <krager> reinis: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[22:12] <ghostcube_> reinis_: or just load it from skype.com
[22:12] <ghostcube_> :D
[22:12] <ghostcube_> developer.skype.com/LinuxSkype
[22:14] <reinis_> well, guys im new in linux, I still havent figured out where to put those configs and all that stuff :/.
[22:14] <reinis_> If i knew, I would do it myself, but im just learning, i installed ubuntu today. :/
[22:14] <reinis_> and i have 64b version
[22:15] <reinis_> :(
[22:15] <krager> if you go to that website and follow the how-to it os very easy
[22:15] <reinis_> ok
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> !envyng | ActionParsnip
[22:16] <reinis_> wow, thanks!
[22:19] <reinis_> btw guys, can u recomend me a nice page for ubuntu begginers, for example how to add the 3dcube thingy, how to install apps trough code, and such must-know stuff?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | reinis_
[22:20] <SOTI> Asking question already said over nine thousand times: How can I stop kopete from autostarting?
[22:21] <krager> right click on it on the system tray and quit, it will not start the next time you log in.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> SOTI: cd ~/.kde/Autostart or cd ~/.kde4/share/Autostart
[22:21] <histo> Okay trying to connect to tightvncserver via a java browser crashes the vnc server. It closes the process and leaves the tmp files in /tmp. I'm getting an error of Window manager warning: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable on display ':1'. in the logs for tightvnc?  Looking for any ideas
[22:25] <qweqwe> hello
[22:25] <qweqwe> when I go to console from kde login manager, how do I get back?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> SOTI: thats where atoload stuff lives
[22:27] <Glady> sottise
[22:28] <krager> qweqwe alt+f7 I think, but don't quote me
[22:29] <qweqwe> krager: tried that, didn't work
[22:29] <krager> qweqwe: I forget how, but 'killall -9 kdm' and then 'kdm' shuld work
[22:30] <qweqwe> krager: alright, thanks.
[22:30] <krager> qweqwe: It's not a nice way, but will work
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> qweqwe: take the easy way, just reboot
[22:38]  * PriceChild cheers
[22:40] <qweqwe> ActionParsni: one of the reasons I switched to Linux is that I don't have to reboot my computer zilions of time becacuse of stupid things.
[22:49] <poon> [Mass Message] If any clients need help with anything before I go out of town for the weekend, let me know within 2.5 minutes.
[22:52] <zipper> Is a server install of (k)ubuntu just the base system, without the "ubuntu-desktop" package (and all the apps) or does it install apache, ftpd and stuff as well if i chose 'server'?
[22:55] <aziz> zipper: i'm not sure, but I don't think it installs apache by default.
[22:56] <krager> the server package is headless (no GUI) but does have apache, exim, ftp etc.
[22:56] <RichardBH> hi - does anyone have any experience installing kubuntu on an Acer Aspire 5920?
[22:56] <aziz> my GTK apps are not properly themed (just plain ugly). Firefox for example wasn't like that before. Don't know what I did or what I installed. Anybody got an idea how to fix this?
[23:01] <zipper> hmm, i see
[23:02] <zipper> basicly what i want, is the awesome hardware detection of ubuntu, but none of the apps or window managers. Is that somehow possible?
[23:12] <dekans> zipper: during the installation of ubuntu server, you have the choice to install or not apache, bind9, .... etc
[23:12] <zipper> ah great
[23:12] <zipper> thanks
[23:28] <bruno_> hay algun friki por aki?
[23:30] <bruno_> all
[23:35] <DexterF> hi
[23:36] <DexterF> dvdcss prob with kaffeine: installed libdvdcss from mkedibuntu still kaffeine wont play encrypted discs. how come?
[23:36] <cosmofield> Hi ^_^
[23:36] <DexterF> (smplyer plays it btw)
[23:36] <cosmofield> Is there a font manager for kde avaiable? I have many fonts installed that I don't use. :/
[23:37] <zipper> might not be very (k)ubuntu'ish, but i never liked kaffeine at all. I prefer using mplayer or vlc
[23:38] <DexterF> zipper: not helping. kaffeine is required and I have to deal with it.
[23:39] <zipper> required? How so?
[23:39] <zipper> and yeah, im aware it's not really solving your problem, but noone else answered you so i figured i'd share my experience
[23:41] <DexterF> well I'm setting the machine up for someone else, not me so I thought I go with the "all KDE apps" approach rahter. plus kaff got better usability imo
[23:43] <zipper> I think thats a stupid approach when there are better alternatives. I mean, you could set up kubuntu to use vlc as the default application for playing video and if your friend is a linux newbie i doubt he would even notice (or care)
[23:44] <zipper> chances are he/she even knows vlc from windows which would make the transition easier
[23:44] <Githzerai> zipper: vlc depends on non-free codecs so will neve be in Ubuntu by default. Same with (S)mplayer
[23:44] <zipper> seeing how he's setting it up for someone else, i doubt that person would care about that
[23:45] <zipper> it Just Works(tm)
[23:46] <zipper> also... installing libdvdcss? Then he definately dont care about using non-free software
[23:46] <DexterF> zipper: im not here to discuss what you regard stupid. need kaffeien going, colon.
[23:47] <zipper> okay fair enough
[23:48] <xomp> what is the name of the KControl package for KDE? I apparently don't have it installed :S
[23:49] <zipper> xomp, im pretty sure its included in the kubuntu-desktop package (which you should have by default)
[23:50] <xomp> yeah I just ran "kcontrol" from the command line and it started, just I have no listing for it in my menu's which is a pain :(
[23:51] <Githzerai> xomp: it's systemsettings, which is just a reorganised kcontrol
[23:52] <zipper> xomp, kcontrol is not as streamlined as <insert default here> which is why its not in the menu
[23:52] <xomp> Githzerai, ahh thanks :)
[23:52] <zipper> that said, it usually have the stuff you want/need unlike the default