[00:21] <bdmurray> Ampelbein: did that seahorse clue find anything interesting?
[00:22] <Ampelbein> no, only the one already marked.
[00:22] <Ampelbein> i'm now on some firefox-3.0 cluefiles
[00:22] <Ampelbein> will upload them as soon as i found some good ones
[00:23] <bdmurray> cool, you might check the firefox package too - it seems to be getting some ff3 bug reports
[00:23] <Ampelbein> my idea was to find some clues in the [master]-reports and let bughelper try to find the dupes
[00:24] <bdmurray> apport does a pretty good job of marking crash duplicates
[00:24] <bdmurray> you probably want to use -A also to get the attachments if you are looking at crash reports
[00:24] <Ampelbein> yeah, figured that out.
[00:24] <bdmurray> great
[00:26] <Ampelbein> about firefox. i'll try with a clue searching for firefox-3.0 and see what it brings up
[00:28] <bdmurray> bug 270000
[00:28] <bdmurray> Awesome Bar!
[00:29] <Ampelbein> hmm. shouldn't "bughelper -T firefox "firefox-3.0" "possibly a firefox-3 bug" --cookie=~/out.txt" ignore locally stored clues?
[00:30] <bdmurray> it should...
[00:30] <Ampelbein> because i get a "Checked at [] - no clues found." error
[00:31] <bdmurray> Ampelbein: testing
[00:33] <bdmurray> I think you need the '-p firefox' bit too
[00:34] <bdmurray> Its running here but I haven't found anything
[00:38] <Ampelbein> is there a way to cache searches? so that bughelper does not have to reget the whole buglist.
[00:40] <bdmurray> no, you could use the --dc field though
[00:40] <bdmurray> oh, whoops
[00:40] <Rocket2DMn> bdmurray, i got an email telling me my bugcontrol membership was going to expire, can you refresh me?
[00:41] <bdmurray> that's a bugnumbers option not bughelper
[00:42] <bdmurray> Rocket2DMn: Have you added your location?
[00:42] <Rocket2DMn> bdmurray, yes
[00:42] <Rocket2DMn> i opted not to display it tho
[00:42] <bdmurray> Rocket2DMn: ah, that's too bad
[00:43] <Rocket2DMn> ??? i can show it if youd like...
[00:43] <Rocket2DMn> does it matter?
[00:44] <bdmurray> No, I just wanted the team map all filled out. ;)
[00:44] <Rocket2DMn> lol i might show it sometime
[00:46] <bdmurray> Rocket2DMn: okay you are all set
[00:48] <Rocket2DMn> thanks bdmurray .  i still see 2009-09-24 under the expires column, is that going to refresh sometime?
[00:48] <bdmurray> it did ;)
[00:49] <CarlFK> can I get help with what package this is against #271958
[00:49] <Rocket2DMn> oh 2009, LOL
[00:49] <Rocket2DMn> oh man... thursdays.... thanks bdmurray
[00:49] <CarlFK> hmm   bug 271958
[00:50] <Ampelbein> bdmurray: bug 228032 should have been found by the "firefox-3.0" search
[00:50] <Ampelbein> comment #2
[00:50] <Ampelbein> contains firefox-3.0
[00:51] <bdmurray> Ampelbein: I'm getting some hits in the data center
[00:51] <bdmurray> its a bit faster there ;)
[00:52] <Ampelbein> ah. already wondered how you where doing the searches that fast.
[00:52] <Ampelbein> hence my question about caching.
[00:52] <bdmurray> intrepid and hardy might be good checks too
[00:53] <Ampelbein> already written clue-files for those.
[00:53] <Ampelbein> have to upload them.
[00:55] <bdmurray> CarlFK: I wonder if more is show w/o quiet and usplash
[00:55] <bdmurray> CarlFK: the task loop0 bit seems key to me
[00:56] <CarlFK> bdmurray: there is no  quite/upsplash:  append initrd=ubuntu/intrepid/desktop/casper/initrd.gz boot=casper netboot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.7:/var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu/intrepid/desktop/root=/dev/nfs single --
[00:58] <Ampelbein> bdmurray: just uploaded some clues for firefox, could you check if i've done it right?
[00:58] <bdmurray> CarlFK: are you the reporter?
[00:58] <CarlFK> bdmurray: yes
[00:59] <bdmurray> Is there anything interesting in dmesg when you boot into single user mode?
[00:59] <CarlFK> ill give it a shot
[01:00] <bdmurray> Ampelbein: where?
[01:00] <Ampelbein> with bzr commit
[01:01] <Ampelbein> in firefox.info
[01:01] <bdmurray> you'll need to use bzr push too
[01:02] <bdmurray> Ampelbein: I'm out for a wee bit but will check it shortly
[01:03] <Ampelbein> k
[01:16] <bdmurray> Ampelbein: looks good, you can also verify it with 'bugxml -v'
[01:16] <Ampelbein> ah, ok.
[01:17] <Ampelbein> running it now, will check back later. have to go to bed now, it's 2:20 AM here.
[01:19] <CarlFK> bdmurray: http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/a/dmesg1.txt  i don't see anyting useful
[01:21] <bdmurray> CarlFK: yeah, not really - what about some other log files?
[01:22] <CarlFK> i don't see any problems until I try to run X, and then it locks up
[01:25] <bdmurray> CarlFK: and you can't do anything then?
[01:26] <CarlFK> right
[01:28] <murdok> After doing modprobe -r ssb; modprobe -r wl; modprobe wl; in dmesg appears this: http://pastebin.com/m6ba66888 . Shall I report it?
[01:31] <bdmurray> CarlFK: did you look at the server's logs too in case it is a network issue
[01:32] <hggdh> murdok, yes
[01:32] <murdok> hggdh, okay thanks. Is this a crash of the module or what is the name to report it?
[01:33] <CarlFK> bdmurray: last thing is expected: Sep 18 19:12:24 localhost rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 192.168.1.108:986 for /var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu/intrepid/desktop (/var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu/intrepid/desktop)
[01:33] <hggdh> murdok, the failed assertion is in the kernel, part of the stack is the module... good question
[01:33] <Ampelbein> bdmurray: last thing before really going: http://www.warperbbs.de/firefox3-bugs.html is the generated buglist, just with the launchpad-urls. just in case you need it.
[01:34] <hggdh> murdok, against the package that hold the wl module, I guess, would be ideal
[01:34] <murdok> sounds complex hehe, so finishing, what package should it be reported against
[01:34] <murdok> okay
[01:34] <murdok> :)
[01:34] <hggdh> so now we find which one it is
[01:38] <hggdh> murdok, I really do not know. b43 is in linux-generic
[01:39] <hggdh> since wl deals with broadcom 43xx...
[01:39] <murdok> hggdh, linux-restricted-modules is the best I think
[01:39] <hggdh> probable
[01:44] <murdok> Hmmm Mario Limoncello has been faster than me
[01:44] <murdok> it's bug #271024
[01:46] <hggdh> :-)
[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[10:30] <nullack> ping seb128 : I got back to you as best I could on bug 271734
[10:31] <nullack> seb128: Let me know if there is something else I can do with testing and Ill be right on it
[10:31] <seb128> nullack: there is still no debug information there
[10:31] <nullack> seb128 : I installed:
[10:31] <nullack> 2008-09-19 19:08:59 status installed libenchant-dev 1.4.2-3.1ubuntu1
[10:31] <nullack> 2008-09-19 19:08:59 status installed libglib2.0-0-dbg 2.18.0-1
[10:31] <nullack> 2008-09-19 19:08:59 status installed libgtk2.0-0-dbg 2.14.1-0ubuntu1
[10:31] <seb128> nullack: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[10:32] <seb128> nullack: you lack the useful one which is libenchant
[10:32] <seb128> this wiki page should be updated for intrepid
[10:32] <seb128> "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com intrepid main universe"
[10:33] <seb128> is the line to add there
[10:33] <nullack> undersatand, I will add to sources and resolve and upload new valgrind
[10:33] <seb128> nullack: also I untagged the nautilus bug you tagged
[10:33] <nullack> that was a mistake, thanks for fixing it
[10:34] <seb128> you're welcome
[10:50] <nullack> seb128 : Ive posted a new valgrindwithdebugsymbols.txt to the bug
[10:51] <seb128> nullack: ok this one has debug informations now
[10:54] <seb128> nullack: duplicate of bug #261596
[10:54] <seb128> I'm closing it
[10:56] <madsrh> Hi, bug-newbie here. How do I learn what packages goes with witch type of bugs? Is there a page with a list or something like that?
[10:56] <nullack> seb128 : Your a master programmer Sebastien
[10:56] <nullack> seb128 Ill confirm 261596
[10:59] <nullack> madsrh: Welcome, here you go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage
[11:00] <nullack> madsrh: Generally theres a bunch of good info also at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
[11:03] <madsrh> nullack: Thanks I'll start reading ;-)
[12:40] <cypherdelic> Hello
[12:40] <cypherdelic> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/271367
[12:40] <cypherdelic> How can i provide further informations for my bug?
[12:53] <stephantom> hey there. I've just upgraded a testing machine to intrepid, and the new kernel won't boot. normally there would be something useful in the logs that would tell me what's wrong. but I can't find anything. it just... stops. have a look, please: http://nopaste.biz/51874
[14:22] <niadh> I have not a bug, but more a feature suggestion, for accessability. Also interested in helping with ubuntu, if i can, so here seemed like the best place to start
[14:57] <bddebian> Boo
[14:58] <nhandler> Ahhh!!!
[15:02] <bddebian> :)
[15:07] <niadh> hey
[15:09] <niadh> There anyone around?
[15:09] <qense> I am :)
[15:10] <niadh> Oh good, I'm looking to perhaps get involed with helping out ubuntu
[15:10] <niadh> Read about, eventually came here.
[15:12] <CarlFK> niadh: personally (but I am not well informed) I would like to see bug reports confirmed quicker
[15:12] <niadh> Great, I'm looking at one I feel I may be able to help on ;)
[15:15] <niadh> I'm looking at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/174714 I KNOW this bug occurs cos it's happened to me, and I also have a hunch about the package name, but can't find it, so assume it has a metaname I don't know the name of, also I imagine I could replicate it.
[15:17] <james_w> niadh: what's your hunch about the name?
[15:18] <niadh> gnome-appearance-properties
[15:20] <CarlFK> niadh:  I am not sure what the protocols are here, but at a friends .com the way this would be handled is: mark it confirmed ("﻿I KNOW this bug occurs cos it's happened to me") and set the ﻿package to your guess
[15:21] <CarlFK> the package may be right, good.  if wrong it will probably be seen by someone who knows what right is and will change it
[15:21] <james_w> niadh:  "dpkg -S /usr/bin/gnome-appearance-properties" will tell you the name of the package
[15:21] <james_w> CarlFK: the problem is that there is no package of that name
[15:22] <CarlFK> yeah, thats a problem :)
[15:22] <niadh> it's part of gnome-control-centre
[15:29] <niadh> I've added details to that bug then, plus a screenshot of me re-creating the issue.
[15:30] <james_w> cool, thanks niadh
[15:30] <niadh> I'm looking through other bugs, like I said, am wanting to get involved if I can.
[15:36] <seb128> niadh: would be nice to specify the version of ubuntu you are using
[15:36] <niadh> I can change that :)
[15:37] <seb128> niadh: also the issue is likely an upstream one, so somebody having it should send to bugzilla.gnome.org too
[15:37] <seb128> niadh: also having a theme example attached to the bug would be useful
[15:37] <niadh> Will do, is there a place to select ubuntu version, or do i just mention it in the comments
[15:37] <seb128> mention it in the description or comments
[15:41] <_Zeus_> Wouter Stomp is driving me off the walls.
[15:42] <Pici> Eh?
[15:43] <_Zeus_> He has submitted like 6 invalid bugs in the last 1hr
[15:43] <Pici> Oh, I thought you were talking about something weird...
[15:44] <_Zeus_> :P
[15:46] <niadh> heh
[15:46] <niadh> How would I go about sorting this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/136854
[15:48] <james_w> _Zeus_: I don't agree with some of your resolutions to those bugs
[15:48] <_Zeus_> james_w: which ones?
[15:49] <_Zeus_> i have a good reason for each one that i think i listed in the bug
[15:49] <james_w> well, all of them actually
[15:49] <_Zeus_> really.
[15:49] <_Zeus_> i find that hard to believe
[15:50] <james_w> I'm not sure time should be spent on fixing them, and I'm not sure they should be kept open, but I disagree with the reasons that you have given
[15:50] <_Zeus_> ok, give me one
[15:50] <_Zeus_> i'll tell you my reason
[16:11] <niadh> Should this bug be left as is or closed? :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/176619
[16:15] <_Zeus_> i don't think that's a bug
[16:15] <_Zeus_> maybe it's a question
[16:16] <_Zeus_> oh wait, other people can duplicate it.  it's a bug
[16:16] <niadh> The Hardy Alpha 1 one?
[16:16] <niadh> But isn't it pointless now, can't it just be closed?
[16:16] <_Zeus_> how do you know it's alpha 1?
[16:16] <niadh> It says so in the description....
[16:17] <_Zeus_> oh
[16:17] <_Zeus_> right in front of me.  yeah, i say close it
[16:17] <CarlFK> wait
[16:17] <Pici> Does it still exist currently?
[16:17] <CarlFK> shouldn't ... yeah.
[16:17] <niadh> Shall I close it then?
[16:17] <_Zeus_> it was in hardy alpha 1, not touched since 2007-12-15
[16:17] <Pici> Oh, Hardy. I read it as intrepid.
[16:18] <_Zeus_> how do you close it?  just invalidate it?
[16:18] <CarlFK> um
[16:18] <CarlFK> I think closing it without knowing if it is fixed is bad
[16:18] <niadh> So what shall we do with it?
[16:18] <CarlFK> at least do the 'not updated in X days/years - is this still a problem?" and let the reporter figure it out
[16:19] <_Zeus_> good idea.
[16:19] <niadh> Done
[16:19] <bdmurray> what bug is it?
[16:20] <niadh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/180656
[16:20] <niadh> wait, no not that one
[16:21] <niadh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/176619
[16:21] <niadh> that one
[16:22] <bdmurray> It should be easy enough to test right?
[16:23] <bdmurray> I mean there seems to be enough information in it to test the bug.
[16:23] <niadh> It it part of ubuntu-desktop?
[16:24] <bdmurray> You can check via 'apt-cache show python-pyatspi'
[16:25] <niadh> yes it is
[16:25] <niadh> so it'll be easy enough to re-install
[16:25] <bdmurray> and I'm not seeing it as auto-removable now
[16:25] <_Zeus_> well, i'm not seeing it as auto-removable
[16:26] <bdmurray> So yes it seems fixed but I'd still check with them to find out if it is still an issue.
[16:26] <_Zeus_> niadh posted to the bug to check with them
[16:26] <_Zeus_> how long do you customarily wait?
[16:26] <bdmurray> I'd also assign it to the correct package which is likely python-pyatspi
[16:27] <bdmurray> mvo: How are packages identified as auto-removable?
[16:27] <_Zeus_> bdmurray: if you run apt-get autoremove, it should list them
[16:28] <bdmurray> _Zeus_: right, but how does it decide which ones are candidates for removal?
[16:28] <_Zeus_> packages that have dependees that have been removed, IIRC
[16:29] <niadh> There's anther hardy alpha bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/194918
[16:31] <james_w> bdmurray: I think it's by tracking if the package was only installed as a dependency of something else
[16:31] <james_w> which is no longer installed
[16:32] <_Zeus_> niadh: I think we can close that... he never really even gave enough information to get it started
[16:32] <niadh> Ok, cool, how do we close, mark as invalid?
[16:33] <_Zeus_> what do you guys think?
[16:33] <_Zeus_> niadh: yes, closing=invalid.  for this particular bug, you could probably hit it with an incomplete, but invalid is better IMO
[16:33] <bdmurray> james_w: that makes sense, thanks
[16:34] <_Zeus_> do you guys think this is a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/272171
[16:34] <_Zeus_> i think it might be wishlist, at best
[16:36] <_Zeus_> anyone?  i'm going to invalidate it then
[16:36] <niadh> marked: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/194918 as invalid and stated why.
[16:36] <bdmurray> _Zeus_: there is no reason to invalidate it
[16:37] <_Zeus_> it's not a bug!
[16:37] <_Zeus_> that's plenty of reason for me...
[16:37] <_Zeus_> it's a feature request
[16:37] <niadh> I would agree that it's a feature request, what to do about it however, I have no idea.
[16:37] <bdmurray> Its fine to have feature requests in Launchpad
[16:38] <_Zeus_> then what do i set the status to?  just leave it at new?
[16:38] <_Zeus_> can anyone here change it to importance=wishlist,status=confirmed?
[16:38] <bdmurray> Can you confirm the behavior?
[16:39] <_Zeus_> who uses evolution?
[16:39] <_Zeus_> i don't
[16:40] <niadh> _Zeus_: Some people use it, hell I used it for a while until I learned I simply hose my system too often to make it worth it.
[16:40] <chrisccoulson> _Zeus_: Ask the reporter for better defined steps to recreate the bug
[16:41] <_Zeus_> chrisccoulson: i think that's pretty good...
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> don't just close it without asking for more information
[16:41] <mvo> bdmurray: there isa file in /var/lib/apt/extended_states
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> it could be a big in the window manager or anything
[16:41] <mvo> bdmurray: that file contains information what packages got installed as dependencies
[16:41] <_Zeus_> chrisccoulson: i'm not going to close it
[16:42] <mvo> bdmurray: libapt knows what packages the user requested explictely and which got installed as automatic dependencie
[16:42] <mvo> bdmurray: why?
[16:42] <bdmurray> mvo: we were looking at a bug where a package marked for auto-removal kept getting reinstalled
[16:43] <chrisccoulson> who's tree mendud? i've got over 500 e-mails from this guy in my inbox!
[16:43] <mvo> bdmurray: what is the bugmuber?
[16:43] <bdmurray> some one with a tremendous amout of time
[16:43] <bdmurray> bug 176619
[16:44] <charlie-tca> _Zeus_: this behavior is default in Xubuntu. To change it, the user has to edit the ~/.config/xfce4/xfwm4/xfwm4rc file
[16:44] <charlie-tca> per the xfce documentation that is hidden in non-standard /usr/share/xfce4/doc/
[16:48] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: is that reporter using xubuntu?
[16:49] <charlie-tca> I don't know, I havn't looked at the report
[16:50] <charlie-tca> bdmurray: Report says kubuntu 8.04. I wonder if this is now doing the same default?
[16:52] <bdmurray> Right so maybe there is a configuration option in kde to change the behavior
[17:17] <chrisccoulson> does anyone know whether the kernel supports UDF v2.50 filesystems?
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> was looking at bug 271481, which you can't see now. the reporter gets an error when they try to mount a UDF iso
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> "Sep 17 22:44:45 myhost kernel: [11984.883435] UDF-fs: minUDFReadRev=250 (max is 201)"
[17:24] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: it does with 2.6.27 afaik
[17:47] <_Zeus_> GAHHHH launchpad is down again
[17:50] <greg-g> _Zeus_: http://ur1.ca/687
[17:51] <greg-g> (that is a shortened url, from the open source url shortener, ur1.ca, just fyi)
[19:07] <_Zeus_> I closed like 6 bugs today and the guy just went and reopened them all
[19:08] <jdong> ah that's always fun.
[19:08] <jdong> I've also got someone here on the ffmpeg package who thinks Launchpad bug statuses were made for FSF anti-patent rallies.
[19:09] <_Zeus_> the guy's name is Wouter Stomp
[19:09] <_Zeus_> big pain
[19:09] <jdong> name sounds very familiar
[19:09] <_Zeus_> complaining that he can't remove files from ~/example-content without su proveliges
[19:09] <jdong> lol
[19:09] <jdong> lovely
[19:12] <_Zeus_> anyway...
[19:15] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson1: could you comment on bug 248521?
[19:16] <jdong> bdmurray: I'm seeing that on VMWare Fusion and latest Intrepid; actually it registers the mouse fine but doesn't respond to any clicking at all
[19:18] <bdmurray> jdong: can you get that log file for tjaalton?
[19:20] <jdong> yeah oncr i get out the laptop
[19:28] <chrisccoulson1> bdmurray: i'll boot my intrepid virtual machine and have a look at that bug in a second.
[19:29] <chrisccoulson1> i haven't noticed it recently because i've changed from the vmmouse driver to the mouse driver
[19:31] <chrisccoulson1> jdong: whats your screen resolution? it does register clicking if you've got a resolution high enough, because the x,y co-ordinates are so far out. on a 1600x1200 screen, i could point my mouse on 1 corner of the screen and just about register a click in the opposite corner
[19:32] <jdong> chrisccoulson1: 800x600, maybe that's why
[19:32] <chrisccoulson1> if i go to a lower resolution, i couldnt get it to click at all
[19:32] <jdong> chrisccoulson1: before it'd register about 50pel lower
[19:32] <jdong> booting it up atm
[19:36] <chrisccoulson1> i can't get it to fail at the moment, which is odd
[19:37] <chrisccoulson1> i'm still running the same version of xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse as I was when I last commented on the bug report
[19:37] <chrisccoulson1> i don't think xorg is loading the vmmouse module, even though i've specified it in my xorg.conf
[19:37] <chrisccoulson1> grep vmmouse /var/log/Xorg.0.log yields nothing
[19:38] <chrisccoulson1> ah
[19:39] <chrisccoulson1> just seen a comment from tjaalton on the bug report about xorg ignoring the drivers in xorg.conf because input-hotplug is used now
[19:39] <chrisccoulson1> so i don't know how to reproduce it now :/
[19:41] <tjaalton> chrisccoulson1: the bug might still exist, and you can disable i-h by adding 'Option "AutoAddDevices" "false"' to ServerFlags
[19:41] <chrisccoulson1> tjaalton: thanks - i'll try that later. i've got to go out for a bit now
[19:55] <jdong> hold on I got it to happen.
[19:55] <jdong> just trying to unbreak the VM enough to copy out the log.
[19:58] <jdong> tjaalton: attached xorg.log; lemme know what else would help
[20:06] <chrisccoulson1> i can confirm that it still exists as well
[20:07] <chrisccoulson1> if i hover the mouse cursor over the main menu in the top left corner of the screen, i get the wastebasket tooltip in the bottom right
[20:13] <jdong> I am unable to register any mouseclick anywhere on the login screen.
[20:51] <niadh> I have a bug here I can't reproduce, not entirely sure what to do with it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/159993
[20:52] <chrisccoulson1> jdong - i can't register a mouse click on the login screen either, but my login screen is only 800x600 i think
[21:29] <_Zeus_> can someone help me??????
[21:29] <_Zeus_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268492
[21:29] <_Zeus_> this guy keeps reopening this bug, and i discussed with some others and they agree with my decision
[21:30] <_Zeus_> how can i stop him?
[21:32] <greg-g> _Zeus_: that is the wrong attitude. You should bring it to a mutually agreeable position. Mark it confirmed (the issue he presents is true, no?) and wishlist.
[21:33] <_Zeus_> ok, deal.  who can set it to wishlist?
[21:33] <greg-g> I can
[21:34] <_Zeus_> ok, i confirmed it and told him what we're doing
[21:35] <greg-g> also, noticed that I changed it to apt
[21:35] <_Zeus_> you can look at this one too, i think this one is also wishlist. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/268492
[21:35] <greg-g> one moment, I am in class right now ;)
[21:35] <_Zeus_> not sure about this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/268492
[21:35] <_Zeus_> sure
[21:36] <greg-g> _Zeus_: could you please search Launchpad and Debian bugtrackers for duplicate reports, please?
[21:37] <greg-g> for the bug we just marked wishlist (the apt issue)
[21:37] <seb128> greg-g: duplicates don't work cross bug trackers
[21:37] <greg-g> seb128: I meant linking it, sorry, couldn't explain fully as I'm in class
[21:37] <greg-g> ;)
[21:39] <_Zeus_> sry, back
[21:45] <maco> can someone mark bug 272171 as wishlist, please?
[21:53] <maco> _Zeus_: hey i agree with the guy on bug 272150 ...that's what hal's for. why do we need something else to notice new devices?
[22:22] <danage> ok i found a bug in rhythmbox: try adding an itunes music folder to the library. it takes hours to import it because when it finds jpg it gives import errors and it takes about 3 seconds for each error
[22:23] <seb128> danage: open the bug on bugzilla.gnome.org
[22:23] <seb128> there is no change to rhythmbox in the ubuntu version
[22:23] <seb128> 3 seconds for each seems a lot
[22:24] <danage> is even says "gstreamer error, file a bug report"
[22:32] <maco> danage: is that from an ipod or a directory?
[22:33] <danage> directory
[22:33] <danage> seb128: gnome bug 552946
[22:33] <un> can someone here help me with the openoffice.org-writer2latex rift... my dpkg is broken now...
[22:34] <danage> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=552946
[22:34] <maco> danage: can't be reproduced here
[22:34] <danage> ouch
[22:34] <danage> try a samba share, that's what i am doing
[22:34] <danage> maybe i should add that as relevant...
[22:34] <un> the unopkg app flippin' out during postinst on the writer2latex deb... fixed anywhere yet?
[22:34] <maco> danage: crimsun's sitting across from me, has a massive music library with tons of photos mixed in, and when he imports the giant tree into rhythmbox, yes, it throws errors for the jpgs, but it continues on just fine and does not take 3 seconds each
[22:35] <danage> does he get "internal gstreamer bugs"
[22:35] <seb128> danage: would be a good idea to specify the version you are using
[22:35] <maco> danage: yes, but that's correct since they're obviously not able to be parsed as music files
[22:36] <danage> my cpu and network occupancy are low. cpu maybe 50% and network 1mbyte/s
[22:37] <seb128> enough for today, see you later
[22:37] <danage> night seb128
[22:37] <danage> maco: well my cpu load is quite high
[22:38] <danage> it might be that
[22:38] <danage> i should withdraw that bug
[22:39] <maco> danage: it could be the samba thing as well with network latency.  see if you can reproduce it locally or when the cpu's not under stress
[22:39] <danage> ok
[22:40] <maco> danage: in my mind, it shouldn't stop and wait for the error before reaching for the next file. it ought to throw the error while skipping to the next file
[22:40] <maco> and that may be what it's doing
[22:40] <danage> i dont understand. it doesn't know the error until it has the response?
[22:41] <maco> i mean it may stop importing while it's waiting for the error to be displayed
[22:41] <danage> ah isee
[22:42] <maco> while it probably should skip to the next file and let the error become visible as resources allow
[22:42] <maco> but as i haven't looked at rhythmbox's code, that's just speculation
[22:43] <madsrh> does anyone know if Alpha 6 should enable compiz by default or if this is a bug?
[22:44] <maco> madsrh: which is it doing? enabling or disabling?
[22:45] <maco> i dont think a decision to get rid of compiz by default was made, so i'd say if it can start compiz by default (can meaning you have all the necessary drivers) and it hasn't, probably a bug
[22:47] <madsrh> maco: Okay, probably a bug then - thanks
[23:24] <maco> i'm pretty sure i've seen a bug on "burn:///" and so i want to mark something as a dupe of it, but i can't figure out how to search for "burn:///" instead i get results as if i'd just searched for "burn"
[23:25] <bokerones> hello
[23:26] <Ampelbein> maco: bug 226854 ?
[23:27] <bokerones> i have a problem reading a cd multisesion but hardy dont warm me any thing ( sorry i am spanish)
[23:28] <maco> Ampelbein: yes, thank you
[23:28] <bokerones> hardy only read the firts sesion on cd and mount it like cd audio ( is because de cd have 17 tracks .wav and software)
[23:28] <maco> Ampelbein: how did you make it not ignore the special characters?
[23:29] <Ampelbein> maco: using bughelper to search for "burn" then grepping for ///
[23:29] <maco> Ampelbein: ah ok. i'll have to look into bughelper
[23:32] <Ampelbein> or you can use some google-magic: lynx --dump "http://www.google.de/search?as_q=burn&hl=de&num=100&btnG=Google-Suche&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=launchpad.net&as_rights=&safe=images" | grep "burn:///"
[23:32] <Ampelbein> might be actually faster than bughelper
[23:34] <bdmurray> heh, that's neat
[23:35] <Ampelbein> bdmurray: good to see you. i've reassigned most of the firefox-3 related issues in firefox. so we won't need a special bugday for them, as you suggested on the mailinglist.
[23:40] <bdmurray> Ampelbein: great! thanks for doing that
[23:41] <bdmurray> that helps explain the numbers at http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/firefox-3.0 some
[23:46] <Ampelbein> yeah, could be.
[23:47] <Ampelbein> should i notify someone before mass-reassigning bugs?
[23:49] <bdmurray> what do you mean by mass? by hand or via a script?
[23:50] <Ampelbein> i looked through the reports and added those which seemed like a firefox-3 issue to me to the recipient list of an email.
[23:50] <Ampelbein> but that were like 70-80 bugs, hence "mass"
[23:51] <Ampelbein> i used the email-interface for reassigning the bugs.
[23:51] <bdmurray> I think letting the mozilla team know would be good
[23:51] <_Zeus_> if a bug has been fixed in a later version, should i change it to fix released?????
[23:51] <Ampelbein> see bug 260831 as example
[23:52] <bdmurray> _Zeus_: is it certain what the bug was?
[23:52] <_Zeus_> the guy said that firefox no longer says "ubuntu" in About, but in 3.0.2, it does say it now
[23:52] <_Zeus_> so it's back
[23:53] <_Zeus_> it hadn't been touched since july 8, then a bot came and changed the bug from in firefox to in firefox 3
[23:53] <_Zeus_> bug 246337
[23:53] <Ampelbein> that was me...
[23:53] <_Zeus_> not a problem anymore
[23:53] <_Zeus_> can i invalidate it?
[23:54] <_Zeus_> or should i change it to fix released?
[23:54] <bdmurray> I'd get an answer about John's question
[23:55] <_Zeus_> so should i just leave it as saying it's been fixed and wait for a reply before invalidating?
[23:55] <bdmurray> But normally it could be set to Fix Released and you should mention the exact package version that you check with, not 3.0.2
[23:55] <_Zeus_> I said 3.0.2+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[23:56] <_Zeus_> isn't that good enough?
[23:56] <maco> guys, what do you do to bugs like bug 272311 ?
[23:56] <_Zeus_> invalidate it.
[23:58] <bdmurray> try not to both close the same bug in the future ;)
[23:58] <_Zeus_> maco: after rereading it, i think the best course of action would be to set it to incomplete
[23:59] <_Zeus_> he does seem to have some issue, so i told him if he wants to give more info, we'll look into it
[23:59] <maco> bdmurray: hey, launchpad lacks a locking mechanism to prevent such things
[23:59] <_Zeus_> i know...
[23:59] <_Zeus_> i wish you could lock bugs shut
[23:59] <maco> bdmurray: crimsun and i are both watching newest bugs, so we have done that a few times too
[23:59] <maco> maybe i should pick a package...