[08:37] <huats> morning here !
[11:16] <seb128> mvo: can you look at bug #271108?
[11:19] <mvo> seb128: sure, thanks
[11:52] <njpatel> mvo: ping
[11:53] <njpatel> i need some help with debian patches :-)
[13:16] <mvo> njpatel: hello! sure, I tell me more (I was at lunch)
[13:16] <njpatel> mvo: hey, no probs -- I figured it out!!!
[13:16] <njpatel> :-D
[13:17] <njpatel> I was stuck with multiple patches which touch Makefiles, I couldn't get them to apply or unapply cleanly, but somehow I've fixed it now
[13:18] <mvo> ok
[13:25] <seb128> mvo: do you plan to do a gnome-control-center upload today?
[13:26] <mvo> seb128: very soon, hopefully with a fix for 271108
[13:26] <seb128> bug #271108
[13:26] <mvo> seb128: why? anything oyu need?
[13:26] <seb128> mvo: ok thanks
[13:26] <mvo> seb128: if its urgend, just go ahead, bzr is fine for upload
[13:26] <seb128> mvo: no, I just look daily at the sponsoring list and I would like to get the 2 gnome-control-center lines you commited to bzr to get cleaned ;-)
[13:27] <mvo> heh :)
[13:27] <mvo> ok
[13:27] <seb128> and one is a string change so better for translators to get the right string early
[13:27] <seb128> anyway nothing urgent, it's just pending upload for a while now so I was wondering
[13:28] <seb128> maybe I can add that as a reason to not like bzr :-p fixes are delayed ;-)
[14:16] <seb128> hey tedg
[14:17] <fta> seb128, the new cairo now requires pixman >= 0.12.0
[14:17] <tedg> Good morning seb128
[14:17] <seb128> tedg: I've sponsored some of the updates waiting on your ppa
[14:17] <fta> seb128, btw, thanks for fontconfig yesterday
[14:17] <tedg> seb128: Awesome, thanks, I haven't looked yet, but did the UIe get processed for FUSA?
[14:17] <seb128> fta: thank you for working on the change ;-)
[14:18] <seb128> fta: since when is this new pixman version available?
[14:18] <seb128> tedg: that was required? GNOME has a standing exception, I just uploaded ;-)
[14:18] <fta> seb128, 2 days ago
[14:18] <fta> seb128, want me to do it ?
[14:19] <tedg> seb128: :)  Thank you.
[14:19] <seb128> fta: no, I'm pinging the debian guys, they usually prefer to be notified so they can do the update and ubuntu can stay in sync
[14:19] <fta> ok
[14:19] <fta> seb128, same for cairo ?
[14:19] <seb128> fta: btw is there still any change in cairo we need or can we sync on debian?
[14:23] <tedg> seb128: Did you do xscreensaver also?
[14:23] <seb128> tedg: no
[14:24] <fta> seb128, still our freetype/fontconfig debps/build-deps versions that are higher
[14:24] <seb128> fta: that's not required, hardy or intrepid have the required versions
[14:27] <fta> seb128, everything else is minor, i guess sync is ok. i'll stop my 1.7.6 update then.
[14:28] <fta> btw, debian doesn't have it yet so there's nothing to sync at the moment
[14:29] <seb128> fta: you can still work on the cairo update if you want, not sure how reactive is the cairo debian maintainer at the moment
[14:31] <fta> considering i need the new pixman, either i do both or i wait for debian
[14:34] <seb128> wait for debian
[14:34] <fta> ok
[14:38] <glatzor> mvo, hi, packagekit 0.3.3 freeze exception was approved. the packages are in the ppa. do you have got the time and willing to upload them?
[14:39] <glatzor> mvo, https://edge.launchpad.net/~packagekit/+archive
[14:39] <glatzor> mvo, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagekit/+bug/268466
[14:41] <glatzor> mvo, I have to leave now, since I am approaching my home town. See you.
[14:54] <discobiscuit> hi everybody
[14:54] <discobiscuit> just trawling the irc channels looking for some help on usb sticks and grub if anyone has the time?
[14:55] <Ampelbein> discobiscuit: #ubuntu is a good start
[14:58] <discobiscuit> yeah going to learn for the linux+ exam from it
[15:14] <seb128> re
[15:15] <seb128> mvo: did you do your quota of sponsoring for this week yet? ;-)
[15:16] <mvo> seb128: no, why
[15:16]  * seb128 is trying to dispatch some sponsoring work there ;-)
[15:16] <mvo> I'm currently reviewing/sponsoring packagekit
[15:16] <seb128> mvo: kwwii has some artwork packages to get sponsored, he pinged me about those yesterday because pitti which usually look at those is away for the week
[15:16] <mvo> but I have cycles I think
[15:16] <mvo> is there a bugrpeort for them?
[15:17] <seb128> but I did spent too much time on sponsoring today and it would be nice if somebody else could look at those
[15:17] <seb128> mvo: no, it's on his ppa on launchpad
[15:17] <seb128> mvo: maybe ping him on irc to confirm the list?
[15:18] <seb128> asac: could you look at the devhelp sponsor request? ;-)
[15:18] <mvo> hm, looks like he is not now currently
[15:18] <seb128> mvo: he's on #canonical, not sure why he's not hanging there though
[15:21] <mvo> seb128: ok, I /msged him
[15:21] <seb128> mvo: thank you
[15:21]  * seb128 is trying to get some GNOME work before the weekend, new version again on monday
[16:42] <tedg> seb128: I'm kinda confused.  I changed the defaults of the FUSA schema file, but still seems like they're being used on a new account I created.  Is there some other thing that needs to be done?
[16:44] <mvo> tedg: depending how/were you changed it you need to run update-gconf-defaults I think (but dh_gconf should take care of it)
[16:45] <seb128> tedg: how did you change those?
[16:45] <seb128> tedg: the usual way is to add a .gconf-defaults
[16:45] <tedg> mvo: Do I need a dh_gconf in the rules file?  There isn't one there now.  But gnome.mk is included.
[16:45] <seb128> if gnome.mk is being used no need no
[16:45] <tedg> seb128: I put it in a patch.
[16:45] <mvo> ok, thanks. gnome.mk should be enough
[16:46] <seb128> did you patch the schemas.in?
[16:46] <tedg> seb128: Yes.
[16:46] <seb128> usually you don't want to patch the schemas
[16:46] <seb128> but add a debian/binary.gconf-schemas which set those
[16:47] <tedg> I'm not sure what you're saying in the second line there.  Is this a file or a line in my rules?
[16:48] <seb128> tedg: that's a file
[16:48] <tedg> And that has the whole schema, or just the diff?
[16:48] <seb128> tedg: locate .gconf-defaults
[16:48] <mvo> tedg: check /usr/share/gconf/defaults/10_compiz-gnome for a example
[16:49] <seb128> tedg: that's a debian think, if dh_gconf is used which is the case there you have nothing to do, just add a .gconf-defaults in the debian directory
[16:50] <tedg> Is there a difference between "gconf-defaults" and "gconf-schemas" ?
[16:50] <seb128> yes
[16:50] <tedg> Which should I use?
[16:50] <davmor2> guys an ideas why the screen saver isn't kicking in?  It starts to fade then almost immediately wakes again
[16:50] <seb128> the schemas are upstream gconf files to set defaults
[16:50] <seb128> the .gconf-defaults one are debian specific files to override upstream defaults without having to patch the schemas
[16:51] <tedg> Okay, so if I'm adding a GConf item, I should patch the schemas?  And if I'm changing a value I should use the defaults in the packaging.  Is that correct?
[16:51] <seb128> no
[16:52] <seb128> you can still use a .gconf-defaults in the new key case but it'll not have a description, etc
[16:52] <seb128> but right if you add upstream keys you can edit the schemas yes
[16:53] <seb128> just make sure to edit the right .in or .in.in so they are in the schemas after build
[16:53] <seb128> I've to run for a bit, bbl
[16:53] <tedg> Okay, I will those seem to be getting added more reliably.  Value changes I think are getting caught up in the layers of settings.