/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/19/#ubuntu-mozillateam.txt

Volansget-install-rdf-version.sh (from actual upstrem branch)00:00
Volansnewer.sh00:00
Volansthat have the new name00:00
Volanssorry00:00
asache?00:00
Volansget-new-imports.sh00:00
asacdidnt we rename those?00:00
asacah00:00
asacyeah00:00
Volansthose are ready, but for a full test I have a little master.sh to test the whole process and I need the branches00:00
Volansso now I write the simple init-branches.sh00:01
Volansto have all from start to the list of versions to be merged00:01
asacVolans: yeah. we should also do a "mirros-branches.sh"00:01
Volans/merged/updated/00:01
asacor let me think00:01
Volansand what should do this script?00:01
asacok00:02
asacmost likely we want00:02
asacmirror-branches.sh <DIRECTORY> <AMOID> <BRANCHMAINNAME>00:04
asachmm00:04
asacmirror-branches.sh <DIRECTORY> <AMOID> <SOURCE_PACKAGE_NAME>00:04
asacthat would branch: DIRECTORY/AMOID/SOURCE_PACKAGE_NAME.upstream00:05
asacand00:05
asacthat would branch: DIRECTORY/AMOID/SOURCE_PACKAGE_NAME.ubuntu00:05
asacand00:05
asacthat would branch: DIRECTORY/AMOID/SOURCE_PACKAGE_NAME.ubuntu.hardy00:05
asac...00:05
asace.g. for development release and all stable releases00:06
asacbut for now just .ubuntu ;)00:06
Volansok00:06
asacand .upstream00:06
Volansbzr branch or get/checkout?00:06
asacVolans: if no branch exists00:06
asacmkdir -p DIRECTORY/AMOID/SOURCE_PACKAGE_NAME.upstream00:06
asacand bzr init DIRECTORY/AMOID/SOURCE_PACKAGE_NAME.upstream00:06
asacsame for .ubuntu i guess00:07
asacVolans: branch00:07
Volansok00:07
Volansquite simple00:07
asacbug 27144600:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271446 in network-manager "NM 0.7: GSM connect failed with "pppd_timed_out(): Looks like pppd didn't initialize our dbus module"" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27144600:23
Volansasac: one problem... the branches bzr url depends on the user that have uploaded it, in particular for .upstream branches01:11
Volansshould we put also this info  in the AMOID - SOURCE PACKAGE NAME list?01:11
kgoetzasac: re bug 247157 - i'm happy to try and make anotehr patch to have $otheraction, as long as $otheraction is decided on. the most obious way to fix it in my mind was install the certs (as thats how i fixed it).06:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 247157 in ubuntu-dev-tools "dget/dgetlp should have ca-certificates in their Recommends field." [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24715706:50
gnomefreakasac: network-manager crashed im letting apport give me details09:57
gnomefreaklol nothing so far maybe apport script on LP helps09:58
gnomefreakmy connection is extreamly slow for some reason10:21
gnomefreaksomething wrong here :(11:19
asacbug 269656 <- in progress \o/11:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269656 in ubufox "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26965611:21
gnomefreakah nevermind i found it11:21
gnomefreakasac: that is the same as the firefox EULA and afaik it was removed from init start up11:21
gnomefreakok brb need to fix connection issues11:21
gnomefreakasac: is dput working for you?11:37
asacgnomefreak: the bug above is the "INFAMOUS" EULA bug :)11:38
asacgnomefreak: not sure if you havent noticed it11:38
gnomefreaki did11:38
asacah11:38
gnomefreaki thought it was on ff3 not ubfox11:38
gnomefreakubufox11:38
asacanyway. i am starting to commit fixes.11:38
asacgnomefreak: ubufox and firefox-3.011:38
gnomefreakah11:38
asacboth contribute11:38
gnomefreaksomeone in #xubuntu yesterday said it was fixed11:39
gnomefreakbzr bd is fucked up :(11:41
gnomefreakits putting everything in work/ except the source.changes11:42
gnomefreaksource.changes is being placed in build-area11:42
gnomefreakasac: is LP slow for you?11:46
gnomefreaklike more than 2 minutes to open homepage11:46
gnomefreakok time to work on connection sincei  cant even ping google11:50
gnomefreaknow its good11:50
Volansasac: if you don't already know it: http://lwn.net/Articles/299135/rss  "Mozilla admits 'giant error' with Firefox EULA move (NetworkWorld)"12:02
gnomefreakfixed12:04
asacVolans: yeah12:07
Volansasac: I have a problem with the branches12:08
asacgnomefreak: there will be a post-update fix for launchpad afaik12:08
asactoday12:08
gnomefreakasac: thanks12:08
* gnomefreak has issue with extension and cant remember what we did to fix it last time12:08
Volansmany *.upstream branches are uploaded by users so ~volans/..../branch.upstream and so on... for every user that have upload a branch12:08
asacVolans: yeah i read that yesterday but you were gone ;)12:09
asacVolans: _all_ upstream branches will be in the same realm12:09
asacmost likely ~mozillateam at the beginning12:09
asacbut probably we will have a new team for that12:09
asacat some point12:09
asacVolans: same goes for the the .ubuntu branches12:10
asacVolans: all will be in the same realm12:10
Volansok, other issue, some of those have binary_package_name instead of source_package_name12:10
VolansI hope this will be fixed with the transition to the same realm12:10
asacVolans: only .ubuntu branches that matter are 1) release branches and 2) proposed merges12:10
asacrelease branches will be (in the beginning) in ~ubuntu-dev (or -core-dev in case the extension is in main)12:10
asacthe merge branches will be put into ~mozilla-extensions-dev12:11
asacVolans: yeah. but i think source/binary isnt reawlly important for our task (maybe i miss something)12:11
asacVolans: lets say its "branch-prefix" for now12:11
Volansok12:12
asacat some point we should consolidate them ... yes12:12
asacso all have source-package12:12
asacbut i think that the scripts dont need to interpret those names for anything12:12
Volansfor test that all works fine I have to mirror branches and now I can't automatically, I can download some branches manually to check that12:13
gnomefreakJazzva: with firegpg when it wouldnt install we changed the ID from xxxx-xx-xxxx to firegpg.firegpg.com? and it fixed it. well same issue with wizz-rss where would i look for the replacement for the ID numbewr12:13
Volansanother way can be that I assume that there aren't branches and create new branches from hardy source packages, but in this way we lost che history of past branches commits12:13
gnomefreaknumber12:13
asacVolans: right. we could create an initial config file12:13
asacVolans: with columns:12:13
asac<AMOID> <branch-prefix>12:14
asacif that helps12:14
VolansI already assume that at this stage12:14
Volans<branch-prefix> <AMOID>12:14
Volansbut it's the same :)12:14
asacyeah12:14
asacso whats the problem then?12:14
Volansthat <branch-prefix> is not sufficient to find the branch atm...12:15
asacVolans: why?12:15
gnomefreaki think i found the problem now to figure out how to fix :(12:15
asacVolans: i think we need a general configuration: BRANCH_REALM:12:15
asacthats lp:~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/12:15
asacfor ubuntu branches12:15
asacand12:15
asacthats lp:~mozillateam/firefox-extensions/12:16
asacfor upstream branches12:16
asacthen the branch name would be:12:16
asac$BRANCH_REALM_UPSTREAM/$BRANCH_PREFIX.upstream12:16
asacand12:16
asac$BRANCH_REALM_UBUNTU/$BRANCH_PREFIX.ubuntu12:16
Volansthe problem is that the branch realm are: lp:~jazzva/firefox-extensions/snowl.upstream12:16
Volansand so on...12:16
asacso maybe its branch-name-prefix (to avoid confusion)12:16
Volansdepends on the users12:17
asacVolans: ah12:17
asacVolans: well. for those that have the .upstream branch somewhere else we need to fix them manually initially12:17
Volansand if we use the mozilla extensions team for uoload?12:17
asacVolans: for upload?12:17
Volans*upload12:17
Volansfor upstream branches12:18
Volans lp:~mozilla-extensions-team/firefox-extensions/snowl.upstream12:18
asacVolans: anyone in that team can delete the branches then12:18
Volansoh right...12:18
asacVolans: we probably want mozilla-extensions-upstream12:18
asacat some point12:18
Volansyes12:18
asacVolans: but you can surely test with lp:~volans/+junk/ ... unti its working12:18
Volansso at this point <branch-prefix> can be the complete url12:19
asacVolans: no12:19
asacVolans: as i said: we need two global configs12:19
Volansok ok12:19
asacBRANCH_REALM_UPSTREAM12:19
asacand12:19
asacBRANCH_REALM_UBUNTU12:19
asacVolans: in theory we dont even need .upstream12:19
asacwhen you look at the bzr log  of .ubuntu12:19
asacyou can see the revision number of the last upstream merge12:19
asacits for instance 7.1.512:19
asacif you do bzr branch -r 7.1.5 branch.ubuntu branch.upstream12:20
asacyou will have the upstream branch again12:20
asachowver, we still need them12:20
asacbut at least we can recover lost .upstream branches to get them started12:20
asacwe need them because its too hard to guess which version is upstream in a script ... and also we need them in case a auto-merge fails12:20
asacso the user can do the merge based on an updated upstream branch.12:21
Volansok, so for testing purposes I can manually branch the actual ones and put all to volans/+junk and test with it?12:21
asacyeah... should work12:22
Volansok thanks12:22
asacVolans: you can also branch the branches you want to test locally12:22
asacand use a local file path as BRANCH_REALM_*12:22
asacso you dont need to do everything over network12:22
Volansoh, yeah, good idea12:22
asac[reed]: is beltzner based in MV?12:24
XioNoXhi12:39
gnomefreakasac: im getting a checksum mismatch in control files12:40
gnomefreakhow do i fix this, rebuild doesnt fix it12:40
* gnomefreak hopes something easy that i forgot12:41
gnomefreakor overlokked12:41
=== Volans is now known as Volans_away
gnomefreakok anyone tell me what im missing/overlooking? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/53980612:51
gnomefreakim so close to being done i can taste it :(12:51
asacgnomefreak: well12:54
gnomefreaki got it asac12:55
asacgnomefreak: at best cleanup all those bits manually12:55
asacand respin12:55
gnomefreaki was respinning wrong version12:55
gnomefreaknope i guess not12:56
gnomefreaki dont get it ~jjv doesnt error12:56
gnomefreakhttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/53982012:58
gnomefreakits the same frigging build just with ~jjv on end12:58
asacgnomefreak: really. remove all the clutter12:58
asacgnomefreak: did you put the orig in tarballs/ directory?12:59
gnomefreakasac: what clutter are you seeing12:59
gnomefreakasac: yes12:59
gnomefreakcould it be caused by the placement of files? sources.changes goes into build-area where as the rest go into work/  ~jjv gets placed in build-area13:00
gnomefreaknot sure why that is happening with smer command13:00
gnomefreaksame13:00
gnomefreakpackaging wise there cant be an issue since ~jjv doesnt error on lintian13:01
gnomefreakonly change is in changelog version13:01
asacgnomefreak: right13:01
asaci think the files are just out-of-sync13:01
asacgnomefreak: so ... remove everything in build-area and work/13:01
asace.g. clutter ;)13:02
gnomefreakno need to grab branch again?13:02
asacgnomefreak: where is the branch?13:02
asacin work/13:02
asac?13:02
Jazzvagnomefreak, I suppose you figured it out, but look for em:id field in install.rdf13:02
gnomefreakasac: in work13:02
asacgnomefreak: remove all files that get produced during build13:02
asacand at least all files that complained about13:03
gnomefreakJazzva: thats not the issue i dont think but i will look if it fails again13:03
gnomefreakem:id is numbers btw13:03
gnomefreakk13:03
gnomefreakok respinning again13:04
gnomefreakthey all went into build-area now13:04
gnomefreakasac: your good13:05
gnomefreaknow lets see if that ws the issue13:05
gnomefreakwas13:05
gnomefreakok wtf13:06
gnomefreakbuilding source it went into build-area when i built bins. everything was removed from build-area and placed into work except for the sources.changes file13:08
gnomefreakwhy would bzr do that13:08
gnomefreaki shouldnt have to remove build-area for every build13:08
asacgnomefreak: yeah13:09
asacbzr builddeb is a bit broken right now13:09
asaci think the sources end up at a different place13:09
asacthen the binaries13:09
asace.g. the sources are put in the parent dir and the binaries in build-area13:10
asacif foud this confusing too13:10
asacand still havent figured the line13:10
gnomefreakthats what im seeing i just asked in #bzr too see if something can be worked around or a PPA with fixed verion13:11
asacgnomefreak: james_w is the one to ask13:12
asacgnomefreak: he is in this channel ;)13:12
gnomefreakhes in every channel ;)13:16
gnomefreakhe answered me before in motu now he answered me in bzr oh and -sa isnt a valid in bzr bd13:17
james_wgnomefreak: you can use it by specifying a builder, but you can't pass it to "bzr bd" directly13:21
james_w"bzr bd -sa" -> "bzr: ERROR: No such option -s"13:21
gnomefreakjames_w: it is in the builder13:22
james_wif you did "bzr bd --builder 'debuild -S -sa'" to build the source package then that will be why it didn't get moved13:22
gnomefreakjames_w: youll see it on the paste i gave you13:22
james_w"bzr bd -S --builder 'debuild -S -sa'" will work13:22
james_wok, so you didn't tell it you were building a source package (bzr bd -S) the first time, so it didn't know to look for _source.changes instead of _i386.changes, so it didn't move the files13:24
james_wyou then built the binary package, it saw the _i386.changes, and moved the results13:24
james_wit was a full source upload, so the _i386.changes included the .dsc, and so they were moved as well13:24
gnomefreakjames_w: i gave the -S option int he builder13:24
james_wgnomefreak: yeah, but bd doesn't know that13:25
asacjames_w: isnt there a regression as well for those "changes"?13:25
gnomefreakno reason why i should have to give it 2 times13:25
james_wasac: I'm not sure what you mean13:25
asacjames_w: it regularly complains to me that some changes are missing ... appears to be a non-fatal warning13:25
gnomefreakthat would be a regression or a feature in new version13:25
gnomefreakthis was working fine last week13:25
james_wgnomefreak: if you don't want them moved then make ~/.bazaar/builddeb.conf13:26
james_wand put13:26
james_w[BUILDDEB]13:26
james_wresult-dir = ../build-area13:26
asacjames_w: what will end up in build-area by default ?13:26
asacnothing?13:26
gnomefreakthats all i put in it?13:26
asacor the binary parts?13:26
james_wunfortunately that will break until I get the next bug fix release in the archive13:26
james_wasac: it should be nothing13:27
asacjames_w:13:28
asacbuild-dir = /var/builddir/asac/13:28
asacresult-dir = /var/builddir/asac/results/13:28
asacall deps end in build-dir13:28
james_wdeps?13:28
gnomefreakjames_w: this shoudl work? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/53984413:28
asacjames_w: debs ;)13:29
gnomefreaks/shoudl/should13:29
asacjames_w: actually that was how it behaved a few days ago13:29
james_wgnomefreak: no, ~/.bazaar/builddeb.conf13:29
asacnow that i am looking _everything_ ends up in build-dir :(13:29
gnomefreakoh dmn13:29
asacoh wait ... maybe i didnt build sources for a logn time13:29
asaclets check13:29
james_wgnomefreak: and if you set it now then it will cause a failure on every build unfortunately13:29
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gnomefreakwell thats not helpful :( ok ill wait to set it than13:30
gnomefreakok made note13:31
asacjames_w: ok13:31
asacjames_w: i think i understand where this confusion comes from :)13:32
asacjames_w: appears to behave like "implemented"13:32
asacits just that all my binary builds i did in the past failed due to gpg key13:32
asacand i just ignored that13:32
asacdidnt really think about that as being an error that prevents the packages from being moved to results13:33
asacbut makes sense ;)13:33
gnomefreakJazzva: nope what i thought was issue wasnt. the em:id's match in .rdf and rules13:34
gnomefreakJazzva: install.rdf http://pastebin.mozilla.org/539853 and rules http://pastebin.mozilla.org/53985713:36
gnomefreakit builds fine and installs but it doesnt show up in browser anywhere (in addons or anyother menu)13:37
Jazzvagnomefreak, try uncommenting MOZ_XPI_EMID line in debian/rules.13:37
gnomefreakok13:37
JazzvaAlso, if you're specifying MOZ_XPI_MOZILLA_DIRS, uncomment it too :)13:37
Jazzvagnomefreak, you can remove iceweasel and icedove, we're not shipping them afaik13:38
gnomefreakJazzva: as haad me add them to xpi.temp13:38
Jazzvagnomefreak, another thing... afaik, you shouldn't use "_" in the package name.13:38
gnomefreakhuh?13:38
gnomefreakwhere do you see _13:38
JazzvaMOZ_EXTENSION_PKG := wizz_rss_news_reader13:38
gnomefreakits upsteams name13:39
gnomefreakupstreams13:39
gnomefreaki changed name to wizz-rss maybe i should have that in rules instead?13:40
Jazzvawizz-rss should be ok, I think13:40
Jazzvaif you need to keep this one, replace "_" with "-"13:40
gnomefreakthis looks better13:44
gnomefreakwill let you know13:44
gnomefreakJazzva: worked perfectly ;) thanks13:45
Jazzvano problem :)13:47
gnomefreakit works too ;)13:59
ftahi14:11
gnomefreakhi14:12
gnomefreakok this toolbar is cool ;)14:12
ftaasac, I guess i should wait to merge your last ff3.0 change to the 3.1 branches, right? still looks like wip to me14:12
gnomefreakasac: ok i have 4 feeds and the options in tool bar all work so far. can you please review firegpg chatzilla and wizz-rss in my PPA the ~jjv1 versions are the right ones not a lintian warning or error in any14:15
asacfta: wip?14:29
ftasorry, wip = work in progress14:29
asacyes. its in progress ;)14:30
asacbetter not diffuse that too much in the branch jungle ;)14:30
asacin case we have to go a different approach or who knows what ;)14:31
ftaasac, any idea how i can fix the <wizard> error in prism ? this is the only issue left to update prism14:45
ftai'd like to push prism if it's not too late14:45
asacfta: does that happen with en-US as well?14:46
ftai'm using en-US14:46
asacfta: show me the error and the source sourrounding that error ;)14:48
asacfrom what i remember its a missing translatable entity ... which causes the xml parser to choke14:49
ftai figured that out but why?14:50
asacfta: which resource is it that is missing14:50
asaccant tell more without knowing that14:50
ftaSep 18 15:45:37 <fta2>  XML Parsing Error: undefined entity14:50
ftaSep 18 15:45:37 <fta2>  Location: chrome://mozapps/content/extensions/update.xul14:50
ftaSep 18 15:45:37 <fta2>  Line Number 14, Column 1:<wizard id="updateWizard"14:50
asacfta: that doesnt give me enough context14:50
asaci need the code of update.xul14:50
asacsourrounding that line14:51
ftalol, hold on, i'm looking in the code14:51
asac(there is not even anm entity visibly in that error14:51
asac)14:51
asacwhich is always painful for these parser errors14:51
asacmostlikely &updateWizard.title;14:53
asacopen chrome://mozapps/locale/extensions/update.dtd and see if the title is defined there14:54
asacthat refers to &brandShortName; in 3.014:54
asacthat makes sense14:54
asacfta: prism has to provide brand.properties and brand.dtd14:54
asacwhen running as standalone app14:54
asacfta: ^^14:54
asacmost likely doesnt ship that ... or the build we are doing misses those files14:55
asacok ... off for a break14:55
asachavent had lunch yet14:55
ftathat update.xul is in xul, not in prism14:56
asacyes14:56
asacbut xul doesnt have a brand14:56
asacso the app has to provide brand.properties and brand.dtd14:56
fta./prism/runtime/chrome/locale/en-US/brand/brand.dtd14:58
ftait is packed in the jar: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17734266/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.prism_0.9.1%2Bsvn20080918r18380-0ubuntu1~fta1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz15:00
ftaasac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92413615:04
[reed]asac: no, Toronto15:32
[reed]asac: but he's in MV quite often15:33
ftaif anyone is using ff-3.1 under intrepid (either my builds or the official ones) could you please tell me if you have proper sound when viewing a <video> content ?17:25
asacfta: i can try ;)17:45
asacnot sure where to test that17:45
ftaasac, try this: http://quetzalcoatal.blogspot.com/2008/08/thanks-dbaron.html17:47
ftahm, today this page is ok, let me look for another one17:47
crimsunI'll try your build in a sec17:48
asacfta: doesnt work17:48
asacoh wait ;)17:48
asacfta: there is noise17:49
ftacracklings ?17:49
asacfta: i forgot that i had my headsets plugged in17:49
asacyes17:49
ftai had that before17:49
asacfta: and only when i push "play" for the first time17:49
asacthen i have to reload the whole page17:49
asacbut maybe one needs to call "rewind()" or something17:49
asachavent looked at the video tag spec17:49
ftahttp://www.double.co.nz/video_test/17:50
ftahm, now it's fine for me too. strange.17:51
asacyeah sound is not really working17:51
asacbut then i have no clue what to expect there17:52
asactoo bad LP is down again17:52
ftayou should expect proper sound, like any mp3 or divx17:52
asacsigh17:58
asacthis is soooo ugly17:58
asacno LP17:58
asacmeans stuck17:59
crimsun[12:51] <      beuno> if you need to look at something18:00
crimsun[12:51] <      beuno> you can use staging18:00
crimsun[12:51] <      beuno> which has 24h-old data18:00
asacyeah18:00
asaci wanted to check whether there were commits in the last 12 hours ;)18:00
asacbut well ... i think it should come back any minute18:00
asacthey said 1h from 1600 UTC18:00
asac@time18:00
ubottuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: September 19 2008, 17:00:49 - Next meeting: Platform Team in 4 hours 59 minutes18:00
asacbug 25956218:01
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Temporarily Unavailable (https://launchpad.net/bugs/259562/+text)18:01
crimsun[12:55] <      beuno> mdz, maybe another 30 minutes18:01
crimsun[12:55] <      beuno> maybe less  :)18:01
ftaasac, which branch(es)?, maybe i'm in sync18:01
crimsungah, come on, ppa.18:01
asacfta: xul 1.918:02
ftahead ? dev .18:03
fta?18:03
asacyeah head18:03
asacfta: btw, i am currently exploring bzr checkouts .... they are not that bad18:03
asacdiverging happens right during commit and since you have to bzr update and then commit to resolve a merge18:04
asacit means that you will always commit on top18:04
asacbut of course ... now its cumbersome ;)18:04
asacbut one can bzr unbind and go ahead as if it always was a brnach18:04
asacand later bzr bind18:04
crimsunfta: right, no audio.  I bet it's an alsa-plugins issue here.18:04
crimsunwe haven't merged lennart's git tree, I bet.18:05
crimsun(I'm routing everything through pulseaudio on 8.10)18:05
ftacrimsun, i'm using your patch, ported to the latest libasound2, maybe that's why it's fine for me now18:06
ftaasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/48355/18:06
ftaasac_, <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/48355/18:11
asac_fta: let me check18:11
asac_(thanks for reposting)18:11
asac_fta: nope ... o-o-s ;)18:12
asac_348 is not here unfortunately18:12
asac_fta: you wanna do a bunch of uploads for the abrowser thing?18:12
asac_:)18:13
asac_archive is open for that ;)18:13
ftayep sure, but in an hour or two, (shopping + lunch)18:13
ftai mean dinner18:13
crimsunLP is back.18:19
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asacfta: apparently this video thing cause ffox to not properly close, but to become a windowless zombie-like thing ;)18:28
ftahm18:29
asachttp://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/09/18/toshiba_unveils_netbook/18:29
asacfta: minefield doesnt have any search engines when starting :/18:49
ftaasac, eh? http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/search.png18:53
asacfta: well ;) ... it makes sense:  dpkg -L firefox-3.1 | grep search18:58
asac/usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins18:58
asac/usr/lib/firefox-3.1b1pre/searchplugins18:58
asaci just dont have firefox-3.0 anymore :)18:58
ftahm18:59
ftathe thing is i didn't want to duplicate /usr/lib/*-addons so i linked the 3.0/1.9 ones19:01
ftai expected to have both installed19:01
asacyep19:02
asaci will think about it ;)19:03
ftahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/48370/19:03
ftabut even with abrowser-3.0, you should have that.. it's not a branding thing, is it?19:04
asacfta: abrowser-3.0 doesnt have that browser19:04
asacerr that problem ;)19:05
fta-rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 62344287 2008-09-19 20:17 thunderbird-3.0_3.0~b1~hg20080919r384+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz19:32
ftadamn, it's big19:32
fta(just converted shredder from cvs to hg)19:32
fta-rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 45669357 2008-08-14 00:32 thunderbird-3.0_3.0~a2+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz19:33
ftaso now, it's the full comm-central + mozilla-central :(19:34
ftameaning the exact same tarball for seamonkey (beside the name)19:35
asacfta: thats good19:45
asacfta: unfortunately the tagging and releasing wont be in sync still19:45
asacotherwise we could do one huge mozilla-central-and-all source package ;)19:46
ftawould be better to have xul-sdk everywhere so comm-central would be enough (and small)19:47
asacobviously ;)19:48
ftalooks like bug 269656 activity is increasing again19:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269656 in firefox-3.0 "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26965619:48
fta     14 2008-09-1319:48
fta    122 2008-09-1419:48
fta    174 2008-09-1519:48
fta     81 2008-09-1619:48
fta     44 2008-09-1719:48
fta     12 2008-09-1819:48
fta     19 2008-09-1919:48
asacwell ... i did t afew bug modifications today19:48
wikzfta: Hi ,you are the one maintaining TB3a2 ,right ?20:01
ftawikz, maintaining is not the word, but yes, i've created the initial package and it seems i'm the only one working on it20:02
ftain a kind of best effort mode20:03
wikzpardon me sir :)20:03
ftawikz, np, it's just that this package needs some love20:04
wikzfta: If you remember ,I had bugged you a couple of weeks ago about building TB .ALso about spicebird20:04
wikzWe migrated Spice to TB3A2 from TB220:04
ftai remember20:04
ftaoh, great news20:04
wikzI need your guidance in 'building' the same20:04
asacwikz: what is spicebird? an extension?20:05
asacor a fork?20:05
wikzNo asac ,we kinda forked it20:05
asacok ... i think i remember20:05
wikzbut simple to build20:05
asacthat discussion ;)20:05
asacdid you change your nick?20:05
wikzjust put the . ${topsrcdir}/collab/config/mozconfig20:05
asacor was there someone else from your project here too?20:05
wikzyeah it was wiki20:05
wikzsomeone stole it then20:06
wikz:P20:06
asacok20:06
asacwikz: stole it? did you have the password for ti?20:06
wikznah I mean it was in use by somo one else20:06
asacah20:06
asacok20:06
asacwikz: are you german?20:07
wikzso I was able to build spice from the fta's TB3a2 ppa20:07
wikzasac: No20:08
wikzIndia20:08
wikz:D20:08
wikzasac: We also have an implementation of libpurple and telepathy-haze in spice like I was telling that day20:09
wikzVERy very buggy though20:09
ftawikz, i'm about to change the tb3 package quite a lot to accommodate it to the new comm-central reqs20:09
wikzfta: I thought so20:09
wikzsince 3A2 is the last on CVS ,right ?20:10
wikzthen on it starts on mercurial20:10
ftaright, up to a220:10
asacwikz: you should really try to not fork everything ;)20:10
wikzasac: lolz20:10
asacfor forking tbird thats probably something i can understand20:10
asacbut why libpurple and telepathy?20:10
wikzasac: WE only had a jabber support for our IM20:11
wikzwe plan to have voice and video plus other netwrks20:11
ftanow that i modified mozilla-devscripts, it's just a matter of using MOZ_OBJDIR and tweaking some rules (hopefully as less as possible)20:11
asacwikz: right. but you can use system libs20:11
asacand not the ones you have in your tree20:11
wikzasac: what about windows ?20:12
asacif you need them for windows thats fine. but try to not change them20:12
wikzasac: exactly20:12
asacso it will work with system libs too20:12
wikzwe will build against system libs for unixes20:12
asacwikz: well. when i ment its fine, i mean its fine as long as there is a switch to --enable-system-libpurple20:12
asacand such in configure20:12
asacwikz: ok thats good news20:12
wikzasac: I will copy that to my team20:13
asacwikz: have you looked if 3a2 still requires your fork?20:13
asacthat branch is still quite open and its certainly possible to get features in20:13
wikzwe sync every 2-3 months20:13
asacwikz: so what patches are left?20:13
wikzasac: not sure about that one  :(20:15
asacanyone knows if i can force a browser window to always show the vertical scrollbar?20:18
asacfrom within a html document?20:18
wikzfta: Do I need to make changes to the /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/ for spice .How much of tb3's scripts can I reuse ?20:19
ftanow, you can host the m-d files into your own package, see the README, there's an example20:19
wikzalright20:20
ftai mean, with the m-d in my branch, yet to be released20:20
ftaor the m-d in my ppa20:20
wikzOh20:20
ftai just pushed mozilla-devscripts_0.11~fta3 in my ppa with that feature + the new tb3 comm-central tarball stuff20:22
ftanext is to update the tb3 branch20:22
wikzok20:22
wikztried out the mozilla-qt branch ?20:22
ftanot yet20:23
wikzblends ok with KDE420:23
wikzalong with a KDE4 theme20:23
ftai want to but the thing is we don't want two distinct xulrunner20:23
wikzfta: correct20:23
ftaasac, http://www.webproworld.com/graphics-design-discussion-forum/56979-firefox-there-way-force-vertical-scrollbar.html#post30123420:24
asacnicer20:38
asacnice ;)20:38
asacfta: thanks20:38
ftamozilla Bug 42462620:38
ubottuMozilla bug 424626 in OS Integration "(linux) Firefox is put into offline mode on startup when NetworkManager is running but not controlling the active network interface (e.g. when using PPP)" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42462620:39
ftahttp://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f2f2446cf2de3bac712e223d101748092dc5c8f720:39
asacfta: hah ;)20:39
asacwhining wins20:39
asacfta: just posted it to #nm channel ... where the devs have a strange pov ;)20:41
asacthey say its more useful to implement offline in a way that "offline" might be wrong, but "online" is 100% accurate20:42
asacthough 100% accurate cant be reached by online anyway20:42
asacbut everyone should see that NM can only serve as a fast-fail for online/offline20:42
asacto provide a snappier error when offline20:43
asacso if in doubt it should say "MAYBE NOT OFFLINE" at least20:43
asac;)20:43
ftalol20:43
asaci talked to them20:43
asacthey dont see that ;)20:44
ftaasac, can i grant FFe exceptions for extensions in #motu ?20:57
ftaasac, ^^ ?21:30
wikzfta: the file thunderbird-3.0.install ,do I need to edit the files in these or is it automatically generated ?21:39
ftait's manual (well, i did this one with a cut-n-paste obviously), the reason for that very detailed list is the split with gnome-support21:41
wikzok21:41
wikzI will do the same then21:41
wikzalso,I followed your readme21:41
ftadid it work ?21:42
wikzI took all the files in the debian dir and changed the project name and file,folder locations.21:42
wikzI didn't try yet21:42
wikzAny other changesto be made in any other files.I also put the mk and conf files in the /usr/share/moz... folder for simplicity21:43
wikz?21:43
ftaplease, try to keep all your file in your project debian dir, so m-d doesn't have to be touched each time you want to change something in your project21:45
ftafileS21:45
wikzI will keep that in mind21:47
ftawikz, this is the part of README i'm referring to: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48404/21:49
wikzgot that.21:49
wikzfta: regarding the thunderbird-3.0.install,can I just use an ls or find to list all possible *.so ,*.js and list them there.As we use lots of other stuff like telepathy and glib which generate more *.so files21:52
ftayou can, try to use globs whenever possible, so you don't have to update this file each the project adds or removes files21:53
ftaalso, you may take advantage of the compare module in m-d.21:54
asacfta: could you give ffox 3.0.head a quick spin and see if all is fine with the new feature?22:01
wikzfta: YOu mean compare_filter_out and all that22:02
asacfta: we should file a general feature freeze exception with a list of requirements22:02
ftawikz, yes, to check that the *.install produces the expected result22:02
ftaasac, agreed22:03
asacfta: last cycle i granted a few FFe that were not good22:03
asacwe should be sure that the packages actually work for more than one person22:03
fta(i'm trying to figure out how to build the new tb3 now..)22:03
asacalso we can only grant ffe for branches i think22:04
armin76give you up22:04
asacarmin76: whats going on?22:05
ftaasac, the guy wants to update 2 ext that are broken because of the ice vs tb deps, so it's a bug fix22:05
asacfta: that doesnt require a ffe22:05
asacfta: check with sispoty please22:05
asacif its a new upstrewam version22:05
armin76asac: bumb!22:05
asacfor extensions we should be able to use new upstream versions as bug fixes22:05
asacarmin76: no ... we will not bump anymore22:05
ftawhy sispoty ?22:05
asacfta: because he is a reasonable MOTU council member22:06
asacwho likes the mozillateam a bit ;)22:06
asacfta: also i had some nice talks with him ;)22:07
ftaasac, hm, ok but could you please write somewhere the conditions for a FFe for us (when it is required and what is requested) so i can point contributors to it ?22:08
ftaand it's not crystal clear to me either22:09
asacfta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37282622:18
asaccan you see if that applies in 1.9 xul?22:18
asaci think attachment 33703122:18
ftain 1.9 or 1.9.1 ?22:19
asacfta: 1.9 ;)22:24
asacand 1.9.122:24
asacbut i think that patch is for 1.9.1 and probably has landed22:24
asacfta: yes. i would love to write down those ffe ... but i have to talk to sispoty22:25
asaci dont feel like i can decide whatever i want ;)22:25
asacat least i want to know that someone from MOTU has rubberstamped such "guidelines"22:26
asacfta: btw. if you start 3.1 with _no_ profile22:26
asacthen start 3.022:26
asac3.0 profile is broken22:27
asacnot sure if thats our startscript22:27
asacmaybe the 3.0 script tries to migrate the 3.1 script?22:27
asacerr22:27
asac3.1 profile22:27
asac;)22:27
fta? i just do a copy of ~/.mozilla/firefox, i never touch it22:27
asacfta: no :)22:27
asacfta: i mean if i have removed .mozilla, then start ffox 3.1 (with ffox 3.0 uninstalled), then install ffox 3 and start firefox 322:28
asacthe window will be broken :)22:28
asace.g. the 3.0 profile busted22:28
asacat least i encountered that 2 hours or so from now22:28
asac(when i didnt have 3.0 installed at all)22:28
ftai don't get it.. you had just ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.1 and started ff3.0 ? it should work22:29
asacyeah. thats what i thought ;)22:30
asacbut then. it was a one time thing22:30
asacand at some point later i had to restart X because console-kit was crashed22:30
asacand i had wierd other issues22:30
asacso maybe it was already the first signs of the parts falling apart ;)22:30
ftabtw, att337031 applies cleanly in 1.922:31
ftaasac, do you want me to commit it ?22:32
asacfta: yes please22:34
ftainteresting, 2/3 of the 237 contributors to the eula bug only posted once in this bug, only 9 posted more than 5 times22:53
fta5 more than 10 times, 1 15 times22:54
asacfta: well. most likely 1/2 or even more of the 2/3 actually created an account for their trollish post23:03
ftai expected trolls to post more than one, they usually do23:04
ftaonCe23:04
asacwell ... there are trolls that feel god-entitled and others that just become a troll once because they cannot keep their thoughts with them23:05
asaclike killing as a concequence of affection23:05
asacbut even though you are not a serial killer you are still a killer23:06
asaclikewise for trolls and one-time-trolls ;)23:06
asacfta: is it committed`23:07
ftayes23:07
asacok23:07
asaclet me test spin this23:07
ftayou didn't get the commit msg ?23:07
asaci got it ... but didnt look for new mail ;)23:08
asacthese days i hate to look for mail, because it takes 2 minutes to find "new" mails ;)23:08
asachidden amoung other "new" mails, that i kept new because i wanted to process them23:08
asaci have to revise my mail workflow again :(23:08
asaconly 3 month after i cleaned my inbox before UDS23:09
asaci have to give up on this approach23:09
asacfta: what can we do to better integrate the prism package with firefox?23:12
asacis there a way we could provide the extension to make this integration happening?23:12
asacor is that already packaged?23:12
ftai don't know if someone worked on that23:12
asacfta: worked on what?23:13
ftathe ext23:13
asacfta: i mean: can we build the firefox extension that is available on the net?23:13
asacfta: i am using a prism extension here23:13
asacisnt that the same tree?23:13
ftaI ship prism-runtime@developer.mozilla.org23:13
asacfta: in which package is that?23:14
ftamy prism, it's the engine23:14
asacfta: oh23:14
fta-my+main23:14
asacso i have that extension from your package ;)23:14
asacfta: then ... how does it work23:14
asaci sometimes get a dialog that asks me if i want to create a app link or something23:15
asacbut its always triggered unintentionally23:15
ftahm no, refractor@developer.mozilla.org is the engine23:15
ftagasp no23:15
fta                <em:name>Refractor for Prism</em:name>23:15
fta                <em:description>Create Prism applications directly in Firefox</em:description>23:15
asacfor instance: i havent found any menu entry or context menu entry that would allow me to make a prism app out of a website i am currently navigating23:15
asacfta: thats strange23:16
fta./dist/xpi-stage/prism-runtime.xpi23:16
fta./dist/xpi-stage/refractor.xpi23:16
asaci dont have an extension. i was wrong23:16
asacfta: yeah. lets take them, sieve them through xpi.mk and make packages out of it ,)23:17
ftai ship  /usr/lib/prism-addons/extensions/prism-runtime@developer.mozilla.org23:17
asacasac@hector:~/ubuntu_bzr/xulrunner-1.9.head$ dpkg -L prism | grep firefox-addons23:17
asacasac@hector:~/ubuntu_bzr/xulrunner-1.9.head$ dpkg -L prism | grep xulrunner-addons23:17
asacasac@hector:~/ubuntu_bzr/xulrunner-1.9.head$23:17
asacfta: yes. but if thats really a firefox extension it should also be linked to firefox-addons23:17
ftai know, i never intended this to work ;)23:18
asacwhy?23:18
asacfta: so we also need refactor packaged, right?23:18
asaci have the runtime extension now properly registered23:19
asacbut dont see any ui changes in firefox23:19
asacfta: hmm... not compatible with ffox 3.0.223:19
ftawhy ? => no reason, /usr/lib/prism-addons/extensions is for prism compatible addons which i use, no one ever requested a prism addon for ff, at least not to me.23:20
ftayep, 3.023:20
asacfta: right.23:20
ftai'll fix that an add a link23:20
asacfta: but one of the key features of prism is firefox integration23:20
asacfta: cool23:21
asacfta: you could put that refactor extension to a package: prism-refractor23:21
asacso people can still install standalone without firefox23:21
ftagood, it was supra easy to update tb3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48416/23:21
asacfta: is MOZ_OBJDIR now needed or just a _new_ feature of the package-build?23:22
ftait's no longer supported to build it in-source23:22
asacok23:22
asacdidnt know that23:22
asacin 3.1?23:22
ftatb23:22
ftatrunk23:23
ftacomm-central23:23
asacyeah tahts 3.1 for me :)23:23
asacfta: actually ... i dont think we need to put that extension in a separate package23:23
asacthat will just cause an upload to be slowed down. and we dont need to add a hard depend on ffox anyway23:24
ftano, that's 3.0b1pre23:24
asacfta: right, but from the same branch that 3.1 is made of?23:24
asac(ffox)23:24
ftayep, so 1.9.1 :)23:24
ftabrowser is out of the picture, yet it's in the tarball :(23:24
asacyeah. but since 3.1 is unique its still unambigous ;)23:25
asacwhile 3.0 might refer to two branches ;)23:25
asacfta: i doubt thats not clear, but the firefox extension should go into /usr/lib/prism-3.0/... and linked from there to firefox-addons/ ...23:30
asacso probably wasted words;)23:30
ftalrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2008-09-16 23:28 /usr/lib/prism-0.9.1/extensions -> ../prism-addons/extensions/23:31
asacfta: well. thos are "prism" extensions23:31
asacnot the firefox prism extension ;)23:31
asaci'd suggest to put it to /usr/lib/prism-*/refactor@prism ...23:31
asacor whatever its called23:31
asacany news in the  bug ;)?23:33
asaclet me look23:33
ftaSubject: [Branch ~vcs-imports/googlechrome/trunk] Rev 770: Build a bunch more of chrome/ on Linux.23:34
asacno feedback23:35
asacappears that noone in the bug has a real interest in testing those bits ;)23:36
XioNoXgood night23:36
asacubottu should provide links for branch rev ;)23:36
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:36
XioNoXfta, do you come to the maow ?23:36
ftawhat is that?23:37
XioNoXfta, you are in paris ?23:37
asacmost likely mozilla meeing in paris23:37
ftayes23:37
asac;)23:37
XioNoXfta, https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW23:37
asacbut just because of the "m ;)23:37
XioNoXMozilla Addon workshop23:37
asacthe french are again not open to international contributors ;) ... everything in french ;)23:38
XioNoXeverybody are talking about it since 1 month23:38
XioNoXasac, this is a "french only" meeting23:38
asacXioNoX: which is exactly what "not open" means, yeah :-P23:39
ftai was just aware of the monthly mozilla beer party in paris23:39
XioNoXhttp://twitter.com/MAOW0823:39
XioNoXfta, yes, it will finish by a beer party23:39
ftathat beer party is even near my office so i will try to attend the next one23:40
XioNoXok, see you next time23:40
XioNoXI need to sleep, to be ready a a full mozilla day :D23:41
XioNoXs/a/for23:41
XioNoXsee you ;)23:41
ftaXioNoX, you should have told me sooner23:41
asacXioNoX: have fun ;)23:42
XioNoXfta, in my mind everybody was aware :D23:42
XioNoXi'll told you for the next one23:42
asacXioNoX: you will surely be a honorous representative for ubufox ;)23:42
XioNoXasac, :)23:43
asacXioNoX: cu soon23:43
ftaXioNoX, tu nous raconteras ;)23:43
XioNoXok, no problem23:43
XioNoXbye23:43
fta+23:43
asacnobody tells the ubuntu folks :(23:43
asachehe23:43
ftalol23:43
asacfta: how was your quilt wrapper called? mozquilt?23:46
ftadquilt23:46
asacfta: what does it do?23:47
ftaasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/48425/23:48
asacfta: could we extend that to search for the first debian/patches ?23:50
asactraversing up in the tree?23:50
asace.g. so it would work for build-tree/mozilla23:50
asacas well?23:50
ftait is already doing just that, no?23:51
ftait scans for ./debian/patches ../debian/patches ../../debian/patches, down to /debian/patches23:51
Ampelbeinhi there! i reassigned about 80 bugs in the firefox-package to firefox-3 package since they seemed to me to be an issue with this package. wanted to let you know, just in case anyone wonders why there are some more bugs showing up in firefox-3.23:53
asacAmpelbein: reassigned?23:53
asacAmpelbein: as long as you assured that there was no firefox-3.0 task open that should be ok23:54
asacAmpelbein: did you try to find duplicates?23:54
Ampelbeinasac: reassigned to firefox-3 instead of firefox.23:54
asacAmpelbein: also if they are an issue with both packages you really should keep the firefox task23:54
asacAmpelbein: but why reassign if they are still in firefox?23:54
asacAmpelbein: the right procedure for anything that isnt critical is to create a new firefox-3.0 task23:55
asacand set the firefox task to wont fix23:55
Ampelbeineven if the bug was not even valid in firefox-2 because the reporter chose the wrong package?23:55
asacAmpelbein: no thats ok then23:56
asacAmpelbein: either reassign or set firefox to invalid and add firefox-3.023:56
asacAmpelbein: thanks23:56
Ampelbeinthose were the bugs i meant.23:56
asacAmpelbein: have you seen the short summary how to process new and incomplete bugs for firefox?23:56
Ampelbeinwill have a closer look next.23:57
bdmurrayasac: could you comment on gnomefreak's question in bug 246337?23:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246337 in firefox-3.0 "Ubuntu version not show on firefox's user-agent string for 8.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24633723:57
asacAmpelbein: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/TriagersHandbook23:57
Ampelbeinbut since there were many bugs filed against the wrong package i thought it would be a good idea to change the package first.23:57
asacbdmurray: that is invalid now23:58
asacwhat happened to that bug?23:58
bdmurrayasac: invalid?23:58
asacbdmurray: i opened the bug and both tasks were invalid23:59
bdmurraycrazy kids in #ubuntu-bugs23:59
asacwhile ubotu claimed "confirmed" when you posted here23:59
asacbdmurray: its fixed released for firefox-3.0 in intrepid and hardy is fix committed23:59

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