[00:00] So, uh, what did I do wrong? Made an x86_x64 cd? [00:01] And then what kind do I need for my kind of box? [00:02] you need the i386 one instead of the amd64 one. [00:02] okay, thanks. [00:03] This server isn't hooked up to the internet. Can I sneakernet Apache, php5, etc. Over to it? [00:04] those are included on the server CD; so for values of "sneakernet" that include "the install CD", yes [01:09] how hard is it nowadays to setup a NIS+ on ubuntu? (I have used NIS in the past, and the docs made clear that NIS+ was pretty hard to do by then, some 8 years ago) [01:11] setting up a server, or a client? === PrivateVoid_ is now known as PrivateVoid [01:13] AFAIK, there has never been support for setting up an NIS+ server with free software; by the time people got around to thinking about it, LDAP had taken over [01:13] I think Novell (SuSE) had a non-free NIS+ server implementation === NCommander is now known as MAC === MAC is now known as NCommander [02:27] slangasek: I was thinking both client and server [02:29] I'm in the very least, interested in the same thing NIS accomplishes, but securely. in a near future, I'd like to incorporate PIM features, as I understand it can do (LDAP). any pointers? [02:30] by "what NIS accomplishes" I mean at least a remote login integrated with local file ownership [02:52] New bug: #271942 in samba (main) "DBus Error samba " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271942 === ScottK is now known as ScottK-vacation [05:02] I'm trying to 'insmod' my own driver to access parallel port, but parport0 has already got there earlier :-o Then I tried to 'rmmod parport', but its says it's in use by ppdev,lp,parport_pc :~o~~ But, checking on 'ps -e' it doesn't show these processes. How to remove the current driver having parport??? :-) [05:05] My `uname -r` = 2.6.24-19-server , and i installed it from downloaded ISO image from web. [05:06] In use by tells you the modules which are using it. [05:06] lsmod | grep par [05:11] 'lsmod | grep par' returns zpar, parport_pc, parport. Actually 'zpar' is my driver I tried to 'insmod' once just now but it gave some error message. [05:13] Tried to rmmod zpar but 'is in use'; tried to rmmod parport_pc but 'is in use'; finally rmmod parport_pc but 'is in use by ppdev,lp,parport_pc'. I think i'm gonna reboot the server. [05:17] rebooting.... (BTW this is not a production svr :) [05:20] OMG!!! During reboot, at 'Start up ...', the kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) -- u think i can recover or correct this? [05:35] already recovrin... foooohh!!!! (exhale) [05:35] hads - thanks!!! [05:35] bye bye [07:38] mdz: /Off topic You have a wikipedia entry. Not only that, but it's listed as one of the main articles of the Linux portal in Wikipedia. [08:21] moin [09:15] * delcoyote hi [09:17] hi === mindframe_ is now known as mindframe [10:56] New bug: #272060 in likewise-open (main) "Missing DDNS update when a domain is joined" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272060 [13:33] Koon: just committed the tomcat section, thanks again [13:34] sommer: you're welcom ! [13:34] e === sourcode_ is now known as sourcode[0] [14:41] New bug: #272132 in likewise-open (main) "Likewise Open starts at S20, then at S92 when a domain is joined" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272132 [14:46] New bug: #272134 in likewise-open (main) "[FFe] Update to 4.1.2982 bugfix microrelease" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272134 [15:10] hi all [15:11] I got a dedicated server with ubuntu 8.04 on it and I only have root access, I created a user and I would like to have access to sudo commands, in 6.10 I could usermod -a -G admin user, but it seems group admin doesn't exist any more [15:11] can someone help me [15:11] please [15:29] raraujo: if there really is no admin group (grep '^admin:' /etc/group) you could create it (addgroup --system admin) [15:30] Or you could add your user account directly to sudoers (visudo) [15:33] thx I figured it out know [15:33] there was a group sudo [15:33] but in /etc/sudoers it was commented [15:33] but now I have another problem [15:33] bahs completion doesn't work properly as user [15:33] if I try to vi /et it doesn't wokr [15:33] vi /et-sh: <( compgen -d -- '/et' ): No such file or directory [15:33] -sh: <( eval compgen -f -X '*.@(o|so|so.!(conf)|a|rpm|gif|GIF|jp?(e)g|JP?(E)G|mp3|MP3|mp?(e)g|MPG|avi|AVI|asf|ASF|ogg|OGG|class|CLASS)' -- $(quote_readline $cur) ): No such file or directory [15:34] but as root it works and also if I don't put anything like vi/cd or so in front of the path it works [15:34] any ideas why? [15:37] thanks a lot for your help and c u [16:16] mathiaz: for samba-3.2.4 changelog should we list all of our Debian changes again? [16:16] zul: is it a merge ? [16:17] nope its new [16:17] zul: so no - the changelog entry should list what has changed between the last upload/entry and the current one. [16:17] Im just trying to figure out what I should put in the changelog other than its a New upstream version [16:18] zul: new upstream version with a list of LP bugs that it may fix. [16:18] k [16:18] zul: you could also list the mini changelog entry from the annoucement [16:18] yep [16:20] zul: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48329/ <- I'd include that part in the changelog entry [16:24] gotcha.. [16:25] mathiaz: test building.. === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [16:47] can someone help wit this eroor [16:47] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library [16:48] http://pastebin.com/m29b19e19 [16:48] Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress. [16:48] some modules for php are missin i presaude [17:00] espacious: do sudo apt-get install php5-mysql [17:01] sommer [17:01] now i reinstalled php5 [17:01] seem ok [17:01] cool [17:01] seems ok [17:01] but [17:02] pages load from outside but from inside only in IE lol not in Firefox [17:02] strange [17:02] firefox still ask to save a file [17:03] also in IE crashes [17:03] damn [17:04] espacious: you might try restarting apache [17:04] im reboting the whole pc [17:04] also my workstation brb [17:04] sth is causing problems [17:09] still the same [17:10] firefox wont open localy [17:10] externaly no problem [17:10] i think now its an apache thing [17:36] Is anyone U-S for KVM-based virtualization (multiple VMs, production environment)? [17:36] just curiou [17:36] s [17:38] lukehasnoname: I'm using it. [17:39] hm [17:46] zul: we should have a look at the latest upload of mysql in debian. [17:47] zul: there may be important fixes that have been uploaded that are worth porting to 5.0.67 [17:56] Idea: Dynamic web environment builder: Linux/Apache/(MySQL||PostgreSQL)/(PHP||Python||Perl||Ruby) auto configured at or immediately after tasksel [17:57] get rid of ruby and perl then maybe [17:57] damnit [18:04] lulz [18:06] lukehasnoname: check on #ubuntu-server [18:06] ? [18:07] oops.. I am on "server.. " sorry just noticed that.. [18:07] too many open channels. [18:41] hey there [18:41] hi kiko [18:43] question for KVM people: is it possible for the host to access a guest's filesystem directly? [18:43] kiko: while the guest is running ? [18:43] yeah [18:44] kiko: if so - you could use a network file system to do it. [18:44] mathiaz, NFS being the most obvious? [18:44] kiko: yes [18:44] kiko: what do you want to do exactly ? [18:45] mathiaz, considering running PQM jobs inside a KVM === kiko_ is now known as kiko [18:46] kiko: and you'd like to copy the job inside the guest ? [18:46] mathiaz, well, I need to kick off the job, so there's that, but I also want to read the log and figure out if it succeeded or failed. [18:47] I realize I could write a server to run on the client and allow manipulation that way [18:47] kiko: right - I'd tend to try to pull things from the guest in that scenario [18:47] was just musing [18:47] right. [18:49] kiko: I've been thinking about that use case too while doing automated iso testing. [18:49] kiko: and I've experimented with the client pulling stuff from the server [18:49] mathiaz, really! we should swap notes. I only just thought about doing it. [18:50] kiko: I don't think that having a server runing on the guest and pushing things to the guest is the best way to do it. [18:50] kiko: a pull architecture seems more appriorate in that use case IMO [18:51] mathiaz, in part I agree because you'd want the guest to be as untainted as possible [18:51] mathiaz, so exporting via NFS for instance is pretty transparent [18:51] but running a service etc less so [18:51] kiko: right - and it scales better also [18:51] kiko: I've taken that use case as an excuse to play with couchdb [18:52] kiko: http://incubator.apache.org/couchdb/ [18:52] yeah, I know of that project [18:53] kiko: for each test case (which is a guest) a document is created. inside there is the test script to run. [18:53] kiko: and the guest just needs to know the document id/url and pull and the things from there. [18:53] kiko: it can also push all the information it wants (such as log, debug info, etc...) [18:54] interesting plan [18:54] kiko: and then you can just look at the document to see where the test case is. [18:54] kiko: couchdb has an integrated scripting/search engine to create views. [18:55] kiko: so you can create your own views to see which test cases have failed, and then drilled down to the failure and look at the logs. [18:56] I'm going to take a look at it [18:56] it looks interesting [18:56] kiko: awesome - let me know what you came up with. [18:57] mathiaz, will do. thanks for the help! [19:12] hi... i installed/setup an ircd properly, it's running... though am unable to connect with a client, any ideas? [19:13] I'm not sure why I'm unable to connect to my fresh ircd install. . . it is set up and everything. [19:13] i followed these steps exactly: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/h7setup.html [19:15] which ip address is it bound to? [19:17] ah was i just disconnected... (sigh) well that could be one problem, though it's not my internet, it was working fine when i attempted to connect. [19:17] test123 [19:17] test 1 2 3 [19:17] am i on ? [19:17] ok i'm back on now... i was disconnected. [19:17] (sigh) well that could be one problem, though it's not my internet, it was working fine when i attempted to connect. [19:17] I just received the message "which ip address..." from zul, though if anyone said anything before that i missed it. :( [19:18] If the ip address question was going to me... it's an active ip, on a website i run, on another server... it's running. [19:18] just can't seem to connect. [19:18] if i built window manager like nautilus and other applications from ubuntu server's edition. would it more memory as in ubuntu's gnome distro? [19:19] am i in the wrong channel? [19:19] would it eat* [19:19] compengi: No [19:20] bytor4232, but i would require to install Xorg right? [19:20] ah, where should i go to ask about irc server? [19:20] howdy1234567890, you are building IRCD? [19:21] i built [19:21] i followed these steps exactly: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/h7setup.html [19:22] i think if things related to that IRCD built, you should better ask them in their dev's channel [19:22] uh [19:23] ...well it's pretty generic. [19:23] And "hybrid" doesn't appear to have a chan in here [19:23] in that site, it's stated where the support is [19:24] ah === J-n_ is now known as J-n [22:17] Question on UFW ... [22:20] ... can I use iptables commands to set up routes with UFW? [22:21] Fenix|work: routes? like your routing table? [22:21] I want to do a series of redirects for specific ports for squid [22:22] Fenix|work: the ufw command does not have that functionality. hover, the ufw system lets you do anything that iptables can do. [22:22] s/hover/however/ [22:23] nice [22:23] so I can disable UFW and just use iptables directly then [22:23] Fenix|work: look in /etc/ufw/*rules for where to put them and see https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html [22:24] Fenix|work: you can always use straight iptables of course [22:25] Fenix|work: however, if you want to still take advantage of the ufw command with some added advanced functionality of iptables, just use ufw like normal, and add appropriate iptables commands to /etc/ufw/*.rules [22:26] Fenix|work: you'll get a lot for free that way (eg, dhcp, avahi, etc work, logging, boot script, etc) [22:31] jdstrand, what do you mean about a lot for free... could you elaborate on that just a tad? [22:31] Fenix|work: I thought I did... [22:31] Fenix|work: with straight iptables, it all up to you to make sure the rules survive on reboot [22:31] I have the propensity to be dense :) [22:31] Fenix|work: you need to decide on logging [22:32] Fenix|work: if it is a general purpose firewall, you'll also need to make sure other things work right [22:32] like dhcp, or avahi, or other things [22:32] I actually want minumal firewall... I'm creating a new gateway. I have a firewall further up the connection that handles all rules and such. [22:32] Fenix|work: if the only thing you want to do is redirect, maybe a few rules in a script is all you need [22:33] but because this gateway is also a squid proxy I need some redirects so that port 80 requests end up in squid [22:34] Fenix|work: do you want a host-based firewall on this machine? [22:34] nope... this gateway is attached to a firewall. [22:35] Fenix|work: then probably just adding a few iptables commands in /etc/rc.local would be enough [22:36] I just want it to pass everything through, except for the squid stuff which I'll handle with -A PREROUTING commands [22:36] Fenix|work: but that gives you no management or anything else... [22:36] see the above link I gave for how to do that with iptables [22:36] s/that/that type of thing/ [22:37] the serverguide link? [22:37] yes [22:37] ok [22:37] though it talks about nat only, not redirects [22:38] but you'll get the idea [22:38] yeah [22:39] thanks jdstrand much appreciated [22:39] np [22:39] I may take advantage of ufw's logging functionality but using iptable rules [22:40] Fenix|work: then add your rules to /etc/ufw/*.rules and set your default policy to ALLOW [22:40] (in ufw) [22:40] see man ufw for details [22:42] ufw default allow [22:42] yep [22:42] (then do 'sudo ufw disable ; sudo ufw enable' [22:42] prerouting rules go in before.rules ? [22:43] Fenix|work: yes, but be sure to add them in the nat table [22:43] Fenix|work: like in the server guide: [22:43] *nat [22:43] [22:43] COMMIT [22:44] Fenix|work: put that at the top of before.rules [22:44] and the rules are written as if it were the iptables command without the iptables command itself [22:44] (that's discussed in 'ufw Masquerading' in the guide) [22:45] Fenix|work: basically. the specific syntax is 'iptables-restore' [22:45] so in nat... -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tco --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128 [22:45] change tco to tcp and you should be in business [22:45] hehe... typo [22:50] Fenix|work: you may also want to add ':PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0]' right after the '*nat' line [22:51] tha'll set the default policy to ACCEPT and reset the counters on reload [22:51] kirkland: do you know much about cryptsetup? [22:51] Fenix|work: also, if you haven't already, set net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 in /etc/ufw/sysctl.conf [22:52] bdmurray: i do not... i've used it to encrypt my swap, that's about it [22:52] bdmurray: something specific you're looking for? [22:52] (then disable and enable) [22:52] http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/tmp/cryptmount-message.png [22:52] whether or not I should report that about crypt-setup or ? [22:53] bdmurray: actually, yeah, i see the same thing on my laptop every day, and every day i mean to report it, but always forget once my browser and everythign is running [22:54] bdmurray: looks to me like some stuff might be missing from the initramfs [22:54] bdmurray: like /lib/lsb/init-functions (the log_*_msg) [22:54] bdmurray: and /sbin/udevsettle [22:55] kirkland: great, I'd seen it in kvm and wasn't sure if it was related to it [22:55] bdmurray: file it, and subscribe me to it [22:55] bdmurray: i might be able to fix those, possible [22:55] bdmurray: i've been dorking around in initramfs more than i care to admit lately :-) [22:55] heh [22:55] bdmurray: priority is probably "low", because I'm not seeing any ill-effects [22:56] bdmurray: and i've had those errors for months now [23:00] does anyone know of an http(s) reverse-proxy that can will to the http authentication on the proxy? We have a web server on our internal network that we can't change. We need to make it available to the world if someone can authenticate to the proxy... I have proposed ssl/ssh based VPNs but that was vetoed from on-high [23:02] zoredache: have you looked at the apache proxy module ? It may fit your scenario. [23:02] jdstrand, thanks a lot [23:02] have a good one [23:03] np-- you too [23:04] mathiaz: a little, you don't happen to know of a configuration sample somewhere that is close to what I am trying to do? [23:05] zoredache: not from the top of my head - try to google for apache reverse-proxy [23:09] kirkland: submitted [23:09] bdmurray: just in time... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/48417/ [23:10] bdmurray: that will silence the log_*_msg errors in cryptsetup [23:10] bdmurray: but i'm looking at initramfs-tools, to see if we can just add /lib/lsb/init-functions and /sbin/udevsettle into the initramfs [23:14] bdmurray: actually, it's simpler than that.... [23:18] kirkland: oh? [23:34] hi, i was looking at graphing systems [23:34] i was wondering if there is something more complete than cacti [23:35] New bug: #272306 in openssh (main) "apt-get doesn't work properly on ssh-ed pc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272306 [23:44] frith: graphing of what? Are you looking for a network monitoring applicationor? [23:46] zoredache, well i like collecting as much as i can io throughput, cpu, net, disk etc, my switch, etc [23:46] like cacti [23:46] just cacti takes ages to setup [23:47] I don't know of anything that is easier to setup. Zenoss, and Opennms are both tools that will monitor and collect data... [23:48] frith: have you looked at munin ? [23:48] those two are a bit bloated for what i was after [23:48] mathiaz, isn't that purely plugin based? [23:48] frith: what do you mean by purely plugin ? [23:48] frith: there is a plugin system IIRC [23:49] to get info into it, you have to install the plugins on each box [23:50] frith: IIRC yes. [23:51] i think i will try and find an snmp based system [23:51] how about just mrtg? [23:51] frith: both munin and cacti support snmp. [23:51] cacti is better [23:51] frith: they're mainly focusing on the graphing part [23:51] mathiaz, cacti is fine, apart from its not very complete === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [23:52] frith: while snmp is geared towards collecting the data to graph. [23:53] zenoss is kinda funky, point it at a system and it does the rest pretty much [23:56] I have an upgrade problem: My server is running 6.10 and I want to upgrade (I only recently discovered that there is a useful upgrade tool). Anyways, I run do-release-upgrade and it rewrites the sources list to include everything for feisty, but then complains that it can't pull the entries for edgy (because edgy is no in old-releases). Any idea how I can make this work sanely? [23:58] garrettkajmowicz, I assume you want to upgrade to hardy, right?