[00:00] <EvilDaemon> So, uh, what did I do wrong? Made an x86_x64 cd?
[00:01] <EvilDaemon> And then what kind do I need for my kind of box?
[00:02] <slangasek> you need the i386 one instead of the amd64 one.
[00:02] <EvilDaemon> okay, thanks.
[00:03] <EvilDaemon> This server isn't hooked up to the internet. Can I sneakernet Apache, php5, etc.  Over to it?
[00:04] <slangasek> those are included on the server CD; so for values of "sneakernet" that include "the install CD", yes
[01:09] <philsf> how hard is it nowadays to setup a NIS+ on ubuntu? (I have used NIS in the past, and the docs made clear that NIS+ was pretty hard to do by then, some 8 years ago)
[01:11] <slangasek> setting up a server, or a client?
[01:13] <slangasek> AFAIK, there has never been support for setting up an NIS+ server with free software; by the time people got around to thinking about it, LDAP had taken over
[01:13] <slangasek> I think Novell (SuSE) had a non-free NIS+ server implementation
[02:27] <philsf> slangasek: I was thinking both client and server
[02:29] <philsf> I'm in the very least, interested in the same thing NIS accomplishes, but securely. in a near future, I'd like to incorporate PIM features, as I understand it can do (LDAP). any pointers?
[02:30] <philsf> by "what NIS accomplishes" I mean at least a remote login integrated with local file ownership
[02:52] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #271942 in samba (main) "DBus Error samba " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271942
[05:02] <youbuntu2008> I'm trying to 'insmod' my own driver to access parallel port, but parport0 has already got there earlier :-o   Then I tried to 'rmmod parport', but its says it's in use by ppdev,lp,parport_pc :~o~~  But, checking on 'ps -e' it doesn't show these processes. How to remove the current driver having parport??? :-)
[05:05] <youbuntu2008> My `uname -r` = 2.6.24-19-server , and i installed it from downloaded ISO image from web.
[05:06] <hads> In use by tells you the modules which are using it.
[05:06] <hads> lsmod | grep par
[05:11] <youbuntu2008> 'lsmod | grep par' returns zpar, parport_pc, parport. Actually 'zpar' is my driver I tried to 'insmod' once just now but it gave some error message.
[05:13] <youbuntu2008> Tried to rmmod zpar but 'is in use'; tried to rmmod parport_pc but 'is in use'; finally rmmod parport_pc but 'is in use by ppdev,lp,parport_pc'. I think i'm gonna reboot the server.
[05:17] <youbuntu2008> rebooting.... (BTW this is not a production svr :)
[05:20] <youbuntu2008> OMG!!! During reboot, at 'Start up ...', the kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)     -- u think i can recover or correct this?
[05:35] <youbuntu2008> already recovrin... foooohh!!!! (exhale)
[05:35] <youbuntu2008> hads - thanks!!!
[05:35] <youbuntu2008> bye bye
[07:38] <lukehasnoname> mdz: /Off topic You have a wikipedia entry. Not only that, but it's listed as one of the main articles of the Linux portal in Wikipedia.
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[09:15]  * delcoyote hi
[09:17] <remote> hi
[10:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #272060 in likewise-open (main) "Missing DDNS update when a domain is joined" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272060
[13:33] <sommer> Koon: just committed the tomcat section, thanks again
[13:34] <Koon> sommer: you're welcom !
[13:34] <Koon> e
[14:41] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #272132 in likewise-open (main) "Likewise Open starts at S20, then at S92 when a domain is joined" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272132
[14:46] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #272134 in likewise-open (main) "[FFe] Update to 4.1.2982 bugfix microrelease" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272134
[15:10] <raraujo> hi all
[15:11] <raraujo> I got a dedicated server with ubuntu 8.04 on it and I only have root access, I created a user and I would like to have access to sudo commands, in 6.10 I could usermod -a -G admin user, but it seems group admin doesn't exist any more
[15:11] <raraujo> can someone help me
[15:11] <raraujo> please
[15:29] <SchneeSchwarz> raraujo: if there really is no admin group (grep '^admin:' /etc/group) you could create it (addgroup --system admin)
[15:30] <SchneeSchwarz> Or you could add your user account directly to sudoers (visudo)
[15:33] <raraujo> thx I figured it out know
[15:33] <raraujo> there was a group sudo
[15:33] <raraujo> but in /etc/sudoers it was commented
[15:33] <raraujo> but now I have another problem
[15:33] <raraujo> bahs completion doesn't work properly as user
[15:33] <raraujo> if I try to vi /et<TAB> it doesn't wokr
[15:33] <raraujo> vi /et-sh: <( compgen -d -- '/et' ): No such file or directory
[15:33] <raraujo> -sh: <( eval compgen -f -X '*.@(o|so|so.!(conf)|a|rpm|gif|GIF|jp?(e)g|JP?(E)G|mp3|MP3|mp?(e)g|MPG|avi|AVI|asf|ASF|ogg|OGG|class|CLASS)' -- $(quote_readline $cur) ): No such file or directory
[15:34] <raraujo> but as root it works and also if I don't put anything like vi/cd or so in front of the path it works
[15:34] <raraujo> any ideas why?
[15:37] <raraujo> thanks a lot for your help and c u
[16:16] <zul> mathiaz: for samba-3.2.4 changelog should we list all of our Debian changes again?
[16:16] <mathiaz> zul: is it a merge ?
[16:17] <zul> nope its new
[16:17] <mathiaz> zul: so no - the changelog entry should list what has changed between the last upload/entry and the current one.
[16:17] <zul> Im just trying to figure out what I should put in the changelog other than its a New upstream version
[16:18] <mathiaz> zul: new upstream version with a list of LP bugs that it may fix.
[16:18] <zul> k
[16:18] <mathiaz> zul: you could also list the mini changelog entry from the annoucement
[16:18] <zul> yep
[16:20] <mathiaz> zul: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48329/ <- I'd include that part in the changelog entry
[16:24] <zul> gotcha..
[16:25] <zul> mathiaz: test building..
[16:47] <espacious> can someone help wit this eroor
[16:47] <espacious> PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library
[16:48] <espacious> http://pastebin.com/m29b19e19
[16:48] <espacious> Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress.
[16:48] <espacious> some modules for php are missin i presaude
[17:00] <sommer> espacious: do sudo apt-get install php5-mysql
[17:01] <espacious> sommer
[17:01] <espacious> now i reinstalled php5
[17:01] <espacious> seem ok
[17:01] <sommer> cool
[17:01] <espacious> seems ok
[17:01] <espacious> but
[17:02] <espacious> pages load from outside but from inside only in IE lol not in Firefox
[17:02] <espacious> strange
[17:02] <espacious> firefox still ask to save a file
[17:03] <espacious> also in IE crashes
[17:03] <espacious> damn
[17:04] <sommer> espacious: you might try restarting apache
[17:04] <espacious> im reboting the whole pc
[17:04] <espacious> also my workstation brb
[17:04] <espacious> sth is causing problems
[17:09] <espacious> still the same
[17:10] <espacious> firefox wont open localy
[17:10] <espacious> externaly no problem
[17:10] <espacious> i think now its an apache thing
[17:36] <lukehasnoname> Is anyone U-S for KVM-based virtualization (multiple VMs, production environment)?
[17:36] <lukehasnoname> just curiou
[17:36] <lukehasnoname> s
[17:38] <mathiaz> lukehasnoname: I'm using it.
[17:39] <lukehasnoname> hm
[17:46] <mathiaz> zul: we should have a look at the latest upload of mysql in debian.
[17:47] <mathiaz> zul: there may be important fixes that have been uploaded that are worth porting to 5.0.67
[17:56] <lukehasnoname> Idea: Dynamic web environment builder: Linux/Apache/(MySQL||PostgreSQL)/(PHP||Python||Perl||Ruby) auto configured at or immediately after tasksel
[17:57] <trashguy> get rid of ruby and perl then maybe
[17:57] <lukehasnoname> damnit
[18:04] <trashguy> lulz
[18:06] <Izinucs> lukehasnoname: check on #ubuntu-server
[18:06] <trashguy> ?
[18:07] <Izinucs> oops.. I am on "server.. " sorry just noticed that..
[18:07] <Izinucs> too many open channels.
[18:41] <kiko> hey there
[18:41] <mathiaz> hi kiko
[18:43] <kiko> question for KVM people: is it possible for the host to access a guest's filesystem directly?
[18:43] <mathiaz> kiko: while the guest is running ?
[18:43] <kiko> yeah
[18:44] <mathiaz> kiko: if so - you could use a network file system to do it.
[18:44] <kiko> mathiaz, NFS being the most obvious?
[18:44] <mathiaz> kiko: yes
[18:44] <mathiaz> kiko: what do you want to do exactly ?
[18:45] <kiko_> mathiaz, considering running PQM jobs inside a KVM
[18:46] <mathiaz> kiko: and you'd like to copy the job inside the guest ?
[18:46] <kiko> mathiaz, well, I need to kick off the job, so there's that, but I also want to read the log and figure out if it succeeded or failed.
[18:47] <kiko> I realize I could write a server to run on the client and allow manipulation that way
[18:47] <mathiaz> kiko: right - I'd tend to try to pull things from the guest in that scenario
[18:47] <kiko> was just musing
[18:47] <kiko> right.
[18:49] <mathiaz> kiko: I've been thinking about that use case too while doing automated iso testing.
[18:49] <mathiaz> kiko: and I've experimented with the client pulling stuff from the server
[18:49] <kiko> mathiaz, really! we should swap notes. I only just thought about doing it.
[18:50] <mathiaz> kiko: I don't think that having a server runing on the guest and pushing things to the guest is the best way to do it.
[18:50] <mathiaz> kiko: a pull architecture seems more appriorate in that use case IMO
[18:51] <kiko> mathiaz, in part I agree because you'd want the guest to be as untainted as possible
[18:51] <kiko> mathiaz, so exporting via NFS for instance is pretty transparent
[18:51] <kiko> but running a service etc less so
[18:51] <mathiaz> kiko: right - and it scales better also
[18:51] <mathiaz> kiko: I've taken that use case as an excuse to play with couchdb
[18:52] <mathiaz> kiko: http://incubator.apache.org/couchdb/
[18:52] <kiko> yeah, I know of that project
[18:53] <mathiaz> kiko: for each test case (which is a guest) a document is created. inside there is the test script to run.
[18:53] <mathiaz> kiko: and the guest just needs to know the document id/url and pull and the things from there.
[18:53] <mathiaz> kiko: it can also push all the information it wants (such as log, debug info, etc...)
[18:54] <kiko> interesting plan
[18:54] <mathiaz> kiko: and then you can just look at the document to see where the test case is.
[18:54] <mathiaz> kiko: couchdb has an integrated scripting/search engine to create views.
[18:55] <mathiaz> kiko: so you can create your own views to see which test cases have failed, and then drilled down to the failure and look at the logs.
[18:56] <kiko> I'm going to take a look at it
[18:56] <kiko> it looks interesting
[18:56] <mathiaz> kiko: awesome - let me know what you came up with.
[18:57] <kiko> mathiaz, will do. thanks for the help!
[19:12] <howdy1234567890> hi... i installed/setup an ircd properly, it's running... though am unable to connect with a client, any ideas?
[19:13] <howdy1234567890> I'm not sure why I'm unable to connect to my fresh ircd install. . . it is set up and everything.
[19:13] <howdy1234567890> i followed these steps exactly: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/h7setup.html
[19:15] <zul> which ip address is it bound to?
[19:17] <howdy1234567890> ah was i just disconnected... (sigh) well that could be one problem, though it's not my internet, it was working fine when i attempted to connect.
[19:17] <howdy1234567890> test123
[19:17] <howdy1234567890> test 1 2 3
[19:17] <howdy1234567890> am i on ?
[19:17] <howdy1234567890> ok i'm back on now... i was disconnected.
[19:17] <howdy1234567890> (sigh) well that could be one problem, though it's not my internet, it was working fine when i attempted to connect.
[19:17] <howdy1234567890> I just received the message "which ip address..." from zul, though if anyone said anything before that i missed it. :(
[19:18] <howdy1234567890> If the ip address question was going to me... it's an active ip, on a website i run, on another server... it's running.
[19:18] <howdy1234567890> just can't seem to connect.
[19:18] <compengi> if i built window manager like nautilus and other applications from ubuntu server's edition. would it more memory as in ubuntu's gnome distro?
[19:19] <howdy1234567890> am i in the wrong channel?
[19:19] <compengi> would it eat*
[19:19] <bytor4232> compengi: No
[19:20] <compengi> bytor4232, but i would require to install Xorg right?
[19:20] <howdy1234567890> ah, where should i go to ask about irc server?
[19:20] <compengi> howdy1234567890, you are building IRCD?
[19:21] <howdy1234567890> i built
[19:21] <howdy1234567890> i followed these steps exactly: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/h7setup.html
[19:22] <compengi> i think if things related to that IRCD built, you should better ask them in their dev's channel
[19:22] <howdy1234567890> uh
[19:23] <howdy1234567890> ...well it's pretty generic.
[19:23] <howdy1234567890> And "hybrid" doesn't appear to have a chan in here
[19:23] <compengi> in that site, it's stated where the support is
[19:24] <howdy1234567890> ah
[22:17] <Fenix|work> Question on UFW ...
[22:20] <Fenix|work> ... can I use iptables commands to set up routes with UFW?
[22:21] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: routes? like your routing table?
[22:21] <Fenix|work> I want to do a series of redirects for specific ports for squid
[22:22] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: the ufw command does not have that functionality. hover, the ufw system lets you do anything that iptables can do.
[22:22] <jdstrand> s/hover/however/
[22:23] <Fenix|work> nice
[22:23] <Fenix|work> so I can disable UFW and just use iptables directly then
[22:23] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: look in /etc/ufw/*rules for where to put them and see https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[22:24] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: you can always use straight iptables of course
[22:25] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: however, if you want to still take advantage of the ufw command with some added advanced functionality of iptables, just use ufw like normal, and add appropriate iptables commands to /etc/ufw/*.rules
[22:26] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: you'll get a lot for free that way (eg, dhcp, avahi, etc work, logging, boot script, etc)
[22:31] <Fenix|work> jdstrand, what do you mean about a lot for free... could you elaborate on that just a tad?
[22:31] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: I thought I did...
[22:31] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: with straight iptables, it all up to you to make sure the rules survive on reboot
[22:31] <Fenix|work> I have the propensity to be dense :)
[22:31] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: you need to decide on logging
[22:32] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: if it is a general purpose firewall, you'll also need to make sure other things work right
[22:32] <jdstrand> like dhcp, or avahi, or other things
[22:32] <Fenix|work> I actually want minumal firewall... I'm creating a new gateway.  I have a firewall further up the connection that handles all rules and such.
[22:32] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: if the only thing you want to do is redirect, maybe a few rules in a script is all you need
[22:33] <Fenix|work> but because this gateway is also a squid proxy I need some redirects so that port 80 requests end up in squid
[22:34] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: do you want a host-based firewall on this machine?
[22:34] <Fenix|work> nope... this gateway is attached to a firewall.
[22:35] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: then probably just adding a few iptables commands in /etc/rc.local would be enough
[22:36] <Fenix|work> I just want it to pass everything through, except for the squid stuff which I'll handle with -A PREROUTING commands
[22:36] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: but that gives you no management or anything else...
[22:36] <jdstrand> see the above link I gave for how to do that with iptables
[22:36] <jdstrand> s/that/that type of thing/
[22:37] <Fenix|work> the serverguide link?
[22:37] <jdstrand> yes
[22:37] <Fenix|work> ok
[22:37] <jdstrand> though it talks about nat only, not redirects
[22:38] <jdstrand> but you'll get the idea
[22:38] <Fenix|work> yeah
[22:39] <Fenix|work> thanks jdstrand much appreciated
[22:39] <jdstrand> np
[22:39] <Fenix|work> I may take advantage of ufw's logging functionality but using iptable rules
[22:40] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: then add your rules to /etc/ufw/*.rules and set your default policy to ALLOW
[22:40] <jdstrand> (in ufw)
[22:40] <jdstrand> see man ufw for details
[22:42] <Fenix|work> ufw default allow
[22:42] <jdstrand> yep
[22:42] <jdstrand> (then do 'sudo ufw disable ; sudo ufw enable'
[22:42] <Fenix|work> prerouting rules go in before.rules ?
[22:43] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: yes, but be sure to add them in the nat table
[22:43] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: like in the server guide:
[22:43] <jdstrand> *nat
[22:43] <jdstrand> <your rules>
[22:43] <jdstrand> COMMIT
[22:44] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: put that at the top of before.rules
[22:44] <Fenix|work> and the rules are written as if it were the iptables command without the iptables command itself
[22:44] <jdstrand> (that's discussed in 'ufw Masquerading' in the guide)
[22:45] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: basically. the specific syntax is 'iptables-restore'
[22:45] <Fenix|work> so in nat... -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tco --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
[22:45] <jdstrand> change tco to tcp and you should be in business
[22:45] <Fenix|work> hehe... typo
[22:50] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: you may also want to add ':PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0]' right after the '*nat' line
[22:51] <jdstrand> tha'll set the default policy to ACCEPT and reset the counters on reload
[22:51] <bdmurray> kirkland: do you know much about cryptsetup?
[22:51] <jdstrand> Fenix|work: also, if you haven't already, set net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 in /etc/ufw/sysctl.conf
[22:52] <kirkland> bdmurray: i do not...  i've used it to encrypt my swap, that's about it
[22:52] <kirkland> bdmurray: something specific you're looking for?
[22:52] <jdstrand> (then disable and enable)
[22:52] <bdmurray> http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/tmp/cryptmount-message.png
[22:52] <bdmurray> whether or not I should report that about crypt-setup or ?
[22:53] <kirkland> bdmurray: actually, yeah, i see the same thing on my laptop every day, and every day i mean to report it, but always forget once my browser and everythign is running
[22:54] <kirkland> bdmurray: looks to me like some stuff might be missing from the initramfs
[22:54] <kirkland> bdmurray: like /lib/lsb/init-functions (the log_*_msg)
[22:54] <kirkland> bdmurray: and /sbin/udevsettle
[22:55] <bdmurray> kirkland: great, I'd seen it in kvm and wasn't sure if it was related to it
[22:55] <kirkland> bdmurray: file it, and subscribe me to it
[22:55] <kirkland> bdmurray: i might be able to fix those, possible
[22:55] <kirkland> bdmurray: i've been dorking around in initramfs more than i care to admit lately :-)
[22:55] <bdmurray> heh
[22:55] <kirkland> bdmurray: priority is probably "low", because I'm not seeing any ill-effects
[22:56] <kirkland> bdmurray: and i've had those errors for months now
[23:00] <zoredache> does anyone know of an http(s) reverse-proxy that can will to the http authentication on the proxy?  We have a web server on our internal network that we can't change.  We need to make it available to the world if someone can authenticate to the proxy...  I have proposed ssl/ssh based VPNs but that was vetoed from on-high
[23:02] <mathiaz> zoredache: have you looked at the apache proxy module ? It may fit your scenario.
[23:02] <Fenix|work> jdstrand, thanks a lot
[23:02] <Fenix|work> have a good one
[23:03] <jdstrand> np-- you too
[23:04] <zoredache> mathiaz: a little, you don't happen to know of a configuration sample somewhere that is close to what I am trying to do?
[23:05] <mathiaz> zoredache: not from the top of my head - try to google for apache reverse-proxy
[23:09] <bdmurray> kirkland: submitted
[23:09] <kirkland> bdmurray: just in time...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/48417/
[23:10] <kirkland> bdmurray: that will silence the log_*_msg errors in cryptsetup
[23:10] <kirkland> bdmurray: but i'm looking at initramfs-tools, to see if we can just add /lib/lsb/init-functions and /sbin/udevsettle into the initramfs
[23:14] <kirkland> bdmurray: actually, it's simpler than that....
[23:18] <bdmurray> kirkland: oh?
[23:34] <frith> hi, i was looking at graphing systems
[23:34] <frith> i was wondering if there is something more complete than cacti
[23:35] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #272306 in openssh (main) "apt-get doesn't work properly on ssh-ed pc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272306
[23:44] <zoredache> frith: graphing of what?   Are you looking for a network monitoring applicationor?
[23:46] <frith> zoredache, well i like collecting as much as i can io throughput, cpu, net, disk etc, my switch, etc
[23:46] <frith> like cacti
[23:46] <frith> just cacti takes ages to setup
[23:47] <zoredache> I don't know of anything that is easier to setup.  Zenoss, and Opennms are both tools that will monitor and collect data...
[23:48] <mathiaz> frith: have you looked at munin ?
[23:48] <frith> those two are a bit bloated for what i was after
[23:48] <frith> mathiaz, isn't that purely plugin based?
[23:48] <mathiaz> frith: what do you mean by purely plugin ?
[23:48] <mathiaz> frith: there is a plugin system IIRC
[23:49] <frith> to get info into it, you have to install the plugins on each box
[23:50] <mathiaz> frith: IIRC yes.
[23:51] <frith> i think i will try and find an snmp based system
[23:51] <zoredache> how about just mrtg?
[23:51] <mathiaz> frith: both munin and cacti support snmp.
[23:51] <frith> cacti is better
[23:51] <mathiaz> frith: they're mainly focusing on the graphing part
[23:51] <frith> mathiaz, cacti is fine, apart from its not very complete
[23:52] <mathiaz> frith: while snmp is geared towards collecting the data to graph.
[23:53] <frith> zenoss is kinda funky, point it at a system and it does the rest pretty much
[23:56] <garrettkajmowicz> I have an upgrade problem:  My server is running 6.10 and I want to upgrade (I only recently discovered that there is a useful upgrade tool).  Anyways, I run do-release-upgrade and it rewrites the sources list to include everything for feisty, but then complains that it can't pull the entries for edgy (because edgy is no in old-releases).  Any idea how I can make this work sanely?
[23:58] <NCommander> garrettkajmowicz, I assume you want to upgrade to hardy, right?