| DCPom | okay thanks | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| DCPom | are the ones that show the actual text of the IM only for GNOME? | 00:07 |
| holyguyver_ | I have never seen ones that do that. | 00:09 |
| DCPom | hm | 00:10 |
| DCPom | i think it's in pidgin-libnotify but it's not letting me enable it | 00:10 |
| zoredache | DCPom: ah, I just had that problem the other day | 00:16 |
| zoredache | the problem is that pidgin changed their configuration directory from being '.gaim' to '.purple'. If you symlink the '.purple' directory to '.gaim' it seems to work | 00:17 |
| DCPom | what's the command for that? | 00:18 |
| zoredache | make sure you are in your home directory then do a 'ln -s .purple .gaim' | 00:18 |
| zoredache | you can also simple stop pidgin and rename .purple to .gaim | 00:18 |
| zoredache | someone should probably file a bug against the libnotify plugin asking them to support the new config directory... | 00:19 |
| DCPom | hm | 00:19 |
| DCPom | okay | 00:19 |
| DCPom | whoa | 00:20 |
| zoredache | ? | 00:20 |
| DCPom | changing the directory lost my account information | 00:20 |
| zoredache | really? it seemed to work for me without loosing anything, | 00:22 |
| thinkmassive | pidgin is probably looking for the .purple dir, which you just moved | 01:03 |
| thinkmassive | a symlink sounds like the right solution | 01:03 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| Pete_I | I want the alt-tab menu to only switch between apps that're on the current workspace. is there a way to do this? | 01:50 |
| whileimhee | Hi. I closed both of my panels. How can I get one back? | 01:57 |
| Unbe | Hey, all. I'm having problems with a PCI ATA133 card--I'm trying to access plain old PATA hard drives, not in RAID, and dmesg isn't even showing them as being there. | 02:15 |
| Unbe | Any thoughts? | 02:15 |
| carlitoo122 | hello, what's again the command to reconfigure the xorg.conf? | 03:47 |
| carlitoo122 | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? | 03:51 |
| carlitoo122 | xconf.org :D | 03:51 |
| carlitoo122 | lol :D | 03:51 |
| kriel | carlitoo122: yes, I believe. It says what the command is in the comments of xorg.conf | 04:07 |
| carlitoo122 | Thanks a lot. | 04:07 |
| kriel | Alright, so. I just got a new laptop, with an intel GM965/GL960 for a video 'card'. For some reason, it looks like it's drawing two monitors on my one LCD screen. | 04:08 |
| carlitoo122 | do you have an external plugged on it? | 04:08 |
| kriel | After some poking around google, I found an xorg.conf that _looked_ to be accurate, but apparently isn't, since It's still doing the 'draw both monitors on one screen' thing. | 04:08 |
| kriel | carlitoo122: Nope. | 04:08 |
| carlitoo122 | it's like showing two desktops instead only one? | 04:09 |
| kriel | it's drawing a 1024x768 desktop on top of the 1280x800 behind it | 04:09 |
| kriel | if i right click on the task bar at the bottom, and hit settings, it asks me which monitor I want it on. If I hit monitor one, it hovers in midair. | 04:10 |
| kriel | output from xrandr: http://pastebin.com/f5905b001 | 04:10 |
| carlitoo122 | do you xorg.conf shows two monitors? or only one? | 04:11 |
| carlitoo122 | and have you tried grandr? | 04:11 |
| kriel | installing grandr | 04:12 |
| kriel | xorg.conf is... incoming | 04:13 |
| kriel | http://pastebin.com/fdb72643 | 04:13 |
| kriel | ... You can just turn an output off? | 04:15 |
| kriel | wtf. -.- | 04:15 |
| carlitoo122 | hmm i think your xorg is ok | 04:17 |
| carlitoo122 | what grandr showed? | 04:17 |
| carlitoo122 | two monitors? | 04:17 |
| kriel | two outputs | 04:18 |
| kriel | yes. | 04:18 |
| carlitoo122 | ok | 04:18 |
| kriel | one called lvds and on called tv | 04:18 |
| carlitoo122 | hmm | 04:18 |
| carlitoo122 | turn tv off | 04:18 |
| kriel | done | 04:20 |
| kriel | it seems to be normal now | 04:20 |
| carlitoo122 | i use a notebook too, when i plug a external display some bugs occurs, then grandr solves them ;) | 04:21 |
| kriel | okay, last question of the night. | 04:21 |
| kriel | Where do I set the max screen size for xorg? It's set to 1280x1280, which is nice all except that my screen is 1280 on it's own | 04:22 |
| carlitoo122 | # | 04:23 |
| carlitoo122 | SubSection "Display" | 04:23 |
| carlitoo122 | # | 04:23 |
| carlitoo122 | Modes "1280x800" | 04:23 |
| carlitoo122 | # | 04:23 |
| carlitoo122 | EndSubSection | 04:23 |
| carlitoo122 | this is where you can edit | 04:23 |
| kriel | not there. | 04:23 |
| kriel | http://pastebin.com/f5905b001 this is from xrandr; first line says "maximum 1280x1280" | 04:24 |
| carlitoo122 | hmm, so you want your display resolution to be 1280x1280 ? | 04:25 |
| carlitoo122 | you can just edit xorg.conf as i said, if your "Display" option in Settings doesn't show it. | 04:25 |
| kriel | no, screen size, not display resolution. | 04:25 |
| kriel | I want to put my two 'monitors' side by side. | 04:25 |
| kriel | but that requires a 2304x800 screen | 04:26 |
| carlitoo122 | aah | 04:26 |
| nubuntu | does xub support compiz cubes? | 04:53 |
| carlitoo122 | hello, how can i configure my touchpad? this is how my xorg.conf shows my synaptics touchpad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48206/ | 04:53 |
| carlitoo122 | nubuntu, yes | 04:53 |
| nubuntu | carlitoo122: can you help me install? is it sudo apt-get install ccsm ? | 04:54 |
| carlitoo122 | try using the synpatics package manager and find "compiz" | 04:55 |
| nubuntu | k | 04:55 |
| carlitoo122 | install it and then use it as default window manager | 04:55 |
| carlitoo122 | after that you'll be able to see "Advanced Desktop Effects Setting" option to configure it your own way :) | 04:55 |
| nubuntu | carlitoo122: whre will it appear 'advanced ... ' | 05:00 |
| carlitoo122 | Click the XFCE Start button, then go to Settings and you'll see it. | 05:00 |
| nubuntu | nope, doesn't appear | 05:01 |
| nubuntu | its not saying i need restart, but maybe yes? | 05:01 |
| carlitoo122 | i think a log out is ok | 05:03 |
| goodluck | nubuntu, here i am :) | 05:04 |
| goodluck | try only to log out | 05:04 |
| zac_ | hey all | 05:24 |
| zac_ | xfce kicks ass by the way | 05:24 |
| zac_ | so i wrote a bash script and made executable a separate xfce4-terminal session with transparency and specific geometry (location on the desktop). All I would like to know, of possible, is how to keep this script from presenting itself in the open window panel | 05:27 |
| zac_ | if its easily done, that is | 05:28 |
| zac_ | you guys have been using linux a lot more than I in the last 9 years | 05:28 |
| Pete_I | nohup? | 05:28 |
| zac_ | the 'tasklist' panel item that is | 05:29 |
| zac_ | nohup? | 05:29 |
| Pete_I | ah, i misunderstood the question | 05:29 |
| Pete_I | i have no idea | 05:29 |
| zac_ | you understand the question, though? | 05:29 |
| Pete_I | nope | 05:30 |
| Pete_I | i'm new here too :) | 05:30 |
| goodluck | i'm having trouble configuring touchpad on my notebook. my xorg.conf is ok and when i run tpconfig it says: Could not open PS/2 Port [/dev/psaux]... any idea? | 05:30 |
| Pete_I | "open window panel"? | 05:30 |
| zac_ | i guess i want this instance, or any instance of the xfce terminal, from occupying its spot on the tasklist panel | 05:30 |
| Pete_I | isn't that contrary to the tasklist's purpose? | 05:31 |
| zac_ | hmmm, the more i think of it the more i think this might be an unreasonable request | 05:31 |
| zac_ | yeah, but it running seamlessly on the desktop is part of the intention....nonobtrusive | 05:32 |
| Pete_I | http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-completely-transparent-shell-on.html like that? | 05:33 |
| zac_ | jesus | 05:33 |
| zac_ | thanks for that link | 05:34 |
| zac_ | here I am trying to do it with xfce's terminal app | 05:34 |
| zac_ | once upo atime I could do this all day on flux with aterm | 05:34 |
| Pete_I | well, that link mentions nothing about the tasklist | 05:34 |
| zac_ | see | 05:34 |
| zac_ | yeah | 05:34 |
| Pete_I | could still do it with xfce's probly | 05:34 |
| zac_ | i guess i have to gauge my dependency on the tasklist | 05:35 |
| zac_ | I triple boot | 05:35 |
| Pete_I | yeah...you'd have to alter the tasklist program to not show it | 05:35 |
| Pete_I | too complicated | 05:35 |
| zac_ | so I'm kinda spoiled to a laucher that keeps track of open windows | 05:35 |
| Pete_I | technically, it would be an open window :/ | 05:35 |
| zac_ | yup | 05:36 |
| * zac_ apt-get 'see ya' to cairo-dock | 05:36 | |
| zac_ | piece of shit | 05:37 |
| Pete_I | :/ | 05:37 |
| Pete_I | what's wrong with it? | 05:37 |
| zac_ | its buggy as hell | 05:37 |
| zac_ | doesnt draw right | 05:37 |
| Pete_I | ah | 05:37 |
| zac_ | transparency needs some work | 05:37 |
| zac_ | all fo it, rather | 05:37 |
| Pete_I | i've never used docking widget things :/ | 05:37 |
| zac_ | you rely on at least one xfce panel? | 05:38 |
| Pete_I | two | 05:38 |
| zac_ | tasklist? | 05:38 |
| Pete_I | rarely. | 05:38 |
| zac_ | you don;t minimize a lot? | 05:38 |
| Pete_I | alt+tab and switching workspaces | 05:38 |
| Pete_I | nevar! | 05:38 |
| zac_ | hah | 05:38 |
| zac_ | i cant help myself | 05:39 |
| Pete_I | i wish alt+tab only switched between programs on the current workspace though | 05:39 |
| zac_ | it lists all of them eh? | 05:39 |
| Pete_I | it gets annoying. i'm working linguistics research on one desktop, and alt+tabbing through games i haven't played in an hour | 05:39 |
| zac_ | tell me | 05:39 |
| Pete_I | tell you what? | 05:40 |
| goodluck | i think nobody knows :( | 05:40 |
| zac_ | nm, just that i hear your frustrations | 05:40 |
| * zac_ tell me about it | 05:40 | |
| zac_ | vbasic in my vista partition, dw8 in my osxpartiton, and my love of open source in xubuntu | 05:41 |
| zac_ | u switch workspaces, I hate the reboots | 05:41 |
| Pete_I | goodluck, i have no idea. best start at google http://www.google.com/search?q=Could+not+open+PS%2F2+Port+ubuntu+touchpad+%2Fdev%2Fpsaux | 05:41 |
| Pete_I | vista takes up so much harddrive space :/ | 05:42 |
| zac_ | factory installed OS, only reason its still there | 05:42 |
| zac_ | heh | 05:43 |
| Pete_I | it was factory installed on my lappy, 40gb harddrive. vista took 20gb | 05:43 |
| Pete_I | <.< yeah, it runs linux now | 05:43 |
| zac_ | how dare an oem do that to you | 05:43 |
| goodluck | I've tried all those links :D | 05:44 |
| goodluck | I'll search more, thanks. | 05:44 |
| Pete_I | sorry i can't help :( | 05:44 |
| Pete_I | there're no proper sound drivers for my lappy though. rather sad. | 05:44 |
| zac_ | ok | 05:44 |
| zac_ | so while im on the subject, and in good company, you know of any calendar app that can notify on the desktop, with some slimlined customization? | 05:45 |
| nubuntu | goodluck, no; here I am... | 05:46 |
| Pete_I | define "on the desktop", "notify" and "slimlined customization"? | 05:47 |
| zac_ | kindal like ical and growl on the mac, with geektool.... | 05:47 |
| Pete_I | :D i have no idea what those are | 05:48 |
| goodluck | i just hate acer notebooks | 05:48 |
| zac_ | that may be way out of bounds to say | 05:48 |
| * goodluck unlocked touchpad clicking the touchpad button | 05:48 | |
| Pete_I | goodluck, yeah, my notebook's acer. good luck | 05:48 |
| nubuntu | Pete_I: lifes a b$%^&, then u die | 05:48 |
| Pete_I | nubuntu, O RLY? | 05:49 |
| nubuntu | :) | 05:49 |
| goodluck | mine is a acer aspire 4720 | 05:49 |
| nubuntu | yes, u din't know? | 05:49 |
| Pete_I | 4315 here. yours is newer :) | 05:49 |
| goodluck | wow, mine is old, i bought it last year | 05:50 |
| goodluck | and i'm brazilian, everything comes here later | 05:50 |
| Pete_I | i bought mine last year. it was on sale 'cause they thought it was crappy | 05:50 |
| goodluck | haha i like these stores | 05:51 |
| goodluck | unfortunately here they think everything is gold | 05:51 |
| Pete_I | well, for running vista, it doesn't quite match up | 05:51 |
| goodluck | so what costs U$400 there will cost at least U$1000 here | 05:51 |
| Pete_I | (dunno why they installed vista), but it's running xubuntu fine | 05:51 |
| goodluck | well, you don't need vista though | 05:51 |
| goodluck | acer notebooks come with vista | 05:52 |
| goodluck | its default | 05:52 |
| Pete_I | wish a few things worked better on linux though | 05:52 |
| Pete_I | audacious is always crashing and stuff | 05:52 |
| Pete_I | Diablo 2 works better on linux via wine than in win xp. that's lol-worthy | 05:53 |
| goodluck | yep, audacious crashs a lot :D | 05:53 |
| goodluck | i like amarok, but i dont like kde | 05:53 |
| Pete_I | amarok's ok, but i didn't want to install kde | 05:53 |
| goodluck | thats why i use audacious too | 05:54 |
| goodluck | i'm kind of new at linux world, but i'm liking it | 05:54 |
| Pete_I | i'm using xmms2 for music, audacious for streams. it won't play more than one file/stream anymore for some reason | 05:54 |
| goodluck | hmm | 05:54 |
| goodluck | i don't like to install too many packages | 05:55 |
| goodluck | and i do think i have 193012039 packages that are useless | 05:55 |
| goodluck | but i dont know how can i uninstall them :( | 05:55 |
| Pete_I | i've got plenty of space, i'll install something if i think i'll use it | 05:55 |
| goodluck | i dont have that much, maybe 100gb... but i need it because my work demands a lot of space | 05:56 |
| Pete_I | OS including /home/ is 11gb. i've got 5gb of OS space left | 05:56 |
| Pete_I | i store most of my downloads on a separate drive | 05:56 |
| goodluck | hmm | 05:56 |
| goodluck | ah | 05:57 |
| goodluck | let me ask you | 05:57 |
| goodluck | is there a way to see wich packages i'm not using anymore? | 05:57 |
| Pete_I | that's an interesting idea | 06:01 |
| goodluck | because sometimes i want to install a software | 06:05 |
| goodluck | then i install 9301239812938213 packages (dependencies) | 06:06 |
| goodluck | then i want to uninstall it, and all the other packages stay | 06:06 |
| Pete_I | i think it's possible in theory, but i don't know of a program that does it | 06:06 |
| goodluck | yes, maybe only in theory? | 06:06 |
| Pete_I | eh, just a minute | 06:06 |
| goodluck | ok! | 06:07 |
| zac_ | damn, sorry for jetting earlier | 06:08 |
| zac_ | ok, i worked on this for a minute | 06:08 |
| zac_ | if i want to run a new terminal script in a window that will output(cat) a text file in one swoop, how bould I do that? | 06:10 |
| zac_ | i thought specifying additional commands in a shell sript with && would do it | 06:11 |
| Pete_I | goodluck, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2651015&postcount=1 ? | 06:11 |
| zac_ | for instance: | 06:12 |
| zac_ | #! /bin/bash | 06:12 |
| zac_ | xfce4-terminal --geometry 40x20+998+0 && cat /home/zac/todo | 06:12 |
| Pete_I | that won't do it. | 06:12 |
| zac_ | no? | 06:12 |
| zac_ | i uess i knew it wouldnt | 06:12 |
| Pete_I | it'll cat to the current terminal, not the term you're opening | 06:12 |
| goodluck | Pete_I, omg nice :DD:D:DD::D | 06:12 |
| Pete_I | goodluck, yeah, i'll be looking it over too | 06:13 |
| zac_ | what would be the best way to have that file cat to the spwaned terminal session? | 06:14 |
| Pete_I | zac_, you could feed the term you're opening a bashfile name with "cat /..." in it? | 06:14 |
| zac_ | Pete_I: exapmle? | 06:15 |
| zac_ | example, rather | 06:15 |
| Pete_I | xfce4-terminal --geometry 40x20+998+0 ./command.sh | 06:15 |
| Pete_I | i'm not sure if it'd work, or if it'd close the term after the cat | 06:15 |
| zac_ | cand the 'command.sh is an entirely different bashfile that does the cat? | 06:15 |
| Pete_I | yeah | 06:15 |
| zac_ | ill try | 06:16 |
| zac_ | gimme a minte | 06:16 |
| zac_ | minute | 06:16 |
| zac_ | damn, me no typie tonght | 06:16 |
| Pete_I | cmd has a switch for this, but i don't see any real switches in the man for xfce4-terminal | 06:16 |
| Pete_I | where'd you find the --geometry? | 06:16 |
| zac_ | it was a shot in the dark | 06:16 |
| zac_ | b/c i didnt see anythiong in the man either | 06:17 |
| zac_ | always true for aterm and xterm, figured it ok for xfce-term | 06:17 |
| Pete_I | -e, --command=STRING Execute the argument to this option | 06:17 |
| Pete_I | inside the terminal | 06:17 |
| Pete_I | xfce4-terminal --help :) | 06:17 |
| zac_ | damn you | 06:17 |
| zac_ | :) | 06:17 |
| zac_ | so.... | 06:18 |
| Pete_I | <.< sad it took us so long to figure out the help switch | 06:18 |
| zac_ | ii have to stare at this for a sec | 06:18 |
| goodluck | thats a wonderful link Pete_I, i will use it tomorrow to clean my packages :) | 06:18 |
| goodluck | well, gotta go now, need to work tomorrow at 6 am and its already 2 am here | 06:18 |
| Pete_I | xfce4-terminal --geometry 40x20+998+0 '--command="cat /home/zac/todo"' | 06:18 |
| Pete_I | not sure if the " are needed or not | 06:18 |
| goodluck | gnight ;) | 06:19 |
| Pete_I | goodluck, ok, have fun | 06:19 |
| zac_ | what about the -e switch | 06:19 |
| Pete_I | does the same thing | 06:19 |
| Pete_I | xfce4-terminal --geometry 40x20+998+0 -e 'cat /home/zac/todo' | 06:19 |
| zac_ | ok lemme edit the basher | 06:19 |
| zac_ | damn | 06:21 |
| zac_ | no workie | 06:21 |
| Pete_I | noticed :/ | 06:22 |
| zac_ | u try running? | 06:23 |
| Pete_I | yeah, it doesn't cat anything | 06:24 |
| zac_ | i am steps away from having a nice ass way to keep a transparent dayplnner on my desktop | 06:24 |
| Pete_I | --window opens a new window, but doesn't run the command | 06:24 |
| zac_ | my 7 classes, 21 credit hrs | 06:24 |
| Pete_I | ya know, you could just... type the cat command | 06:25 |
| Pete_I | <.< | 06:26 |
| Pete_I | but i'm gonna figure out how to do this now. it's been a whole hour. | 06:26 |
| zac_ | i started an hour ago? :0 | 06:26 |
| zac_ | arrrrrgh | 06:29 |
| Pete_I | :/ we need a pro here. i've no idea why this isn't working | 06:31 |
| zac_ | no shit | 06:32 |
| zac_ | that switch is as plain as day | 06:32 |
| zac_ | i have half as much hair now | 06:32 |
| Pete_I | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=760006&page=2 this appears to be kinda what we're doing | 06:32 |
| Pete_I | we just want it open for much longer | 06:32 |
| zac_ | yeah, but i have no need for the second term, actually i want it spwaned and displayed in the first | 06:34 |
| Pete_I | ...displayed inside the first term? like a new tab? | 06:34 |
| isabel__ | i installed ubuntu | 06:35 |
| TheSheep | -x executes a command | 06:35 |
| isabel__ | then installed xubuntu | 06:35 |
| zac_ | i've disabled any and all hint of a GUI on this term window, so tabs do no good | 06:35 |
| Pete_I | isabel__, congrats | 06:35 |
| isabel__ | how do i get rid of ubuntu/gnome now? | 06:35 |
| zac_ | beside the point, this damn -e switch oughtta be working | 06:35 |
| isabel__ | i tried this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce | 06:35 |
| Pete_I | isabel__, sudo apt-get remove gnome ? | 06:35 |
| isabel__ | but it's still there as a login option when i boot up | 06:35 |
| TheSheep | isabel__: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop; apt-get autoremove | 06:35 |
| Pete_I | ah,t hat's the one | 06:36 |
| TheSheep | the first will only remove a metapackage, the second witll remove all packages that depended on it | 06:36 |
| isabel__ | TheSheep, Is sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop; apt-get autoremove the whole command? including the ;? | 06:37 |
| isabel__ | it says ubuntu-desktop is not installed so not removed | 06:38 |
| isabel__ | when i try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop | 06:38 |
| TheSheep | isabel__: they are two commands separated with l | 06:39 |
| TheSheep | with ; | 06:39 |
| TheSheep | ok, then do sudo apt-get autoremove | 06:39 |
| isabel__ | can i copy and paste it? | 06:39 |
| Pete_I | zac_, i have no idea. it's not workin :( | 06:40 |
| isabel__ | doesnt' work | 06:40 |
| TheSheep | !doesn't work | 06:40 |
| ubottu | Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. | 06:40 |
| isabel__ | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 255 not upgraded. | 06:41 |
| zac_ | xfce4-terminal --geometry 40x20+998+0 '--command="cat /home/zac/todo"' | 06:41 |
| zac_ | thats as close as i get | 06:42 |
| Pete_I | we're trying to start a new xfce4-terminal window and have it run a command | 06:42 |
| zac_ | run from the terminal it does open up another but no output | 06:42 |
| Pete_I | same for everything i've tried | 06:42 |
| Pete_I | .... | 06:42 |
| TheSheep | xfce4-terminal --geometry 40x20+998+0 -x 'cat /home/zac/todo' | 06:42 |
| Pete_I | damnit. it's a bot. | 06:42 |
| Pete_I | same result. | 06:43 |
| Pete_I | wait... | 06:43 |
| zac_ | yup, same | 06:43 |
| Pete_I | yeah, same | 06:43 |
| zac_ | dammit | 06:44 |
| zac_ | what a bug | 06:44 |
| Pete_I | it's not the cat, it won't even echo | 06:44 |
| zac_ | maybe i will have to try another term | 06:44 |
| TheSheep | aah | 06:44 |
| TheSheep | skip the '' | 06:44 |
| zac_ | but i spent so much time on this already | 06:44 |
| TheSheep | xfce4-terminal --geometry 40x20+998+0 -x less ~/.bashrc | 06:45 |
| Pete_I | xfce4-terminal --geometry 80x40 --command 'vi' | 06:46 |
| Pete_I | works | 06:46 |
| zac_ | how the hell does it less but not cat? | 06:46 |
| Pete_I | closes the term when the command is done i think. | 06:47 |
| Pete_I | that's what the --hold switch is for i believe | 06:47 |
| TheSheep | zac_: cat will work too, but will disappear after it finishes | 06:47 |
| zac_ | yeah, i just lessed the file and it displayed | 06:48 |
| zac_ | answeres that I guess | 06:48 |
| Pete_I | :/ | 06:49 |
| zac_ | kinda hate the less EOF, though | 06:49 |
| Pete_I | that took far too long. | 06:49 |
| zac_ | secretely we learned something :) | 06:49 |
| TheSheep | the problem was with quoting the whole command | 06:49 |
| Pete_I | it was the '' around the command we were doing it appears | 06:49 |
| Pete_I | that's strange. | 06:49 |
| zac_ | no | 06:50 |
| zac_ | i had a quoteless cat arg | 06:50 |
| zac_ | none ever worked | 06:50 |
| Pete_I | cat closes too fast | 06:50 |
| Pete_I | i guess | 06:50 |
| TheSheep | it tried to find an executable with spaces and slashes in it | 06:50 |
| Pete_I | :o | 06:50 |
| zac_ | ok | 06:51 |
| zac_ | im gonna rework this a minute | 06:51 |
| Pete_I | :) glad we solved it. thank you, TheSheep | 06:52 |
| zac_ | thnks sheep | 06:53 |
| flyback | WHAT THE CANUCK Is the name of the mixer app | 07:08 |
| * flyback bangs his head into the wall | 07:08 | |
| flyback | it's not on the menu | 07:08 |
| flyback | nm found it | 07:09 |
| flyback | otherwise pretty damn decent distro for older boxes | 07:09 |
| flyback | or vm hosts :) | 07:10 |
| frenzy42 | hey everyone | 07:12 |
| frenzy42 | so i download the VLC plugin for firefox and it seems to screw up and crash my browser, how can i uninstall it | 07:12 |
| TheSheep | frenzy42: find it in synaptic and uninstall | 07:13 |
| frenzy42 | ah HA! | 07:13 |
| frenzy42 | ok! | 07:13 |
| === Pete_I is now known as Coldhak | ||
| oldeffingibm | hi, anyone home? | 12:54 |
| vinnl | oldeffingibm, here | 12:56 |
| oldeffingibm | hi =) trying to install xubuntu on an old ibm p3 using live/desktop cd | 12:57 |
| oldeffingibm | however the options "try.." "install..." and "check cd.." all lead to a black screen with: BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-in shell (ash) | 12:59 |
| oldeffingibm | Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. | 13:00 |
| oldeffingibm | (initramfs)_ | 13:00 |
| vinnl | You could try using the alternate install cd | 13:00 |
| vinnl | Perhaps it doesn't look as easy but it's more likely to work | 13:00 |
| vinnl | Disadvantage is that you don't know whether Xubuntu will work with your hardware | 13:00 |
| vinnl | I suppose you're trying version 8.04? | 13:01 |
| oldeffingibm | Yup. Would you suggest a different one? | 13:01 |
| favro | !alternate | 13:02 |
| ubottu | The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.1/ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent | 13:02 |
| vinnl | oldeffingibm, no, just making sure you're using a stable version ;-) | 13:02 |
| oldeffingibm | Might as well give it a shot since I've already dl'd all four .isos "just in case". | 13:03 |
| oldeffingibm | Now if only I can find a blank CD. | 13:03 |
| vinnl | xD | 13:03 |
| oldeffingibm | I'm just killing time, actually. And there are two old desktop units here I'd want to try Xubuntu on. | 13:05 |
| oldeffingibm | One is the IBM p3 | 13:06 |
| oldeffingibm | which, surprisingly has TWO processors. :-X | 13:06 |
| oldeffingibm | and an old HP Pavillion | 13:06 |
| oldeffingibm | And both are [were] running windows xp... albeit in a slow way. So I figured if they could run XP, surely Xubuntu can. | 13:10 |
| favro | it might just be a mem issue - try removing/replacing the mem stick a couple of times | 13:12 |
| oldeffingibm | favro, it's still the same. And while I was fiddling with the mem sticks, I saw 3x256mb. | 13:24 |
| oldeffingibm | That should be sufficient for Ubuntu, right? | 13:24 |
| favro | I used 256 on an old pent3 | 13:25 |
| favro | 128 is ok with the alternate cd | 13:25 |
| oldeffingibm | I just noticed something. After selecting an option, an error message will print on the monitor... acpi=force required. Is this important? | 13:30 |
| favro | yep | 13:30 |
| favro | it's a boot option - F6 at the install prompt should let you add it | 13:31 |
| oldeffingibm | Hmm... after the "--" at the end or right at the beginning? | 13:32 |
| favro | I would think at the end | 13:33 |
| oldeffingibm | All right. Let me go through with the alternate cd and see if I can pull it off. | 13:36 |
| vinnl | I would think before the "--" btw | 13:36 |
| vinnl | ...but that's based on nothing | 13:36 |
| oldeffingibm | lol xD | 13:37 |
| oldeffingibm | well, wherever it should be placed, the alternate cd is now at the network detection part | 13:37 |
| vinnl | Cool | 13:37 |
| oldeffingibm | Ok, I'm at partitioning disks. Which one should I pick if I just want a clean sweep? | 13:39 |
| oldeffingibm | Because the last (and first time) I did it, I used the "Guided - use the largest continuous free space" | 13:40 |
| vinnl | oldeffingibm, could you list what the options are? :) | 13:40 |
| oldeffingibm | Guided - resize SCSI (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and use freed s [it cuts off here] | 13:41 |
| oldeffingibm | Guided - use entire disk [ok, stab me but this would probably be it] | 13:41 |
| oldeffingibm | Guided - use the largest continuous free space | 13:41 |
| vinnl | Hehe, yeah :P | 13:41 |
| oldeffingibm | lol... oh, what's LVM in "Guided - use entire disk and set up LVM"? | 13:42 |
| vinnl | !LVM | 13:44 |
| ubottu | Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO | 13:44 |
| favro | logical volume management - you prob won't want to use it | 13:44 |
| oldeffingibm | thanks | 13:45 |
| oldeffingibm | I can't believe it took just under a decade to go from "I have 10GBs!!" to "wtf, 2TB and I'm still running out of space" | 13:48 |
| favro | hehe | 13:48 |
| oldeffingibm | The alternate cd wasn't as bad as I thought it would be... xD and here I thought I would be typing out codes like mad. | 13:51 |
| vinnl | ^.^ | 13:52 |
| oldeffingibm | Oh, yeah... I was also wondering if you guys would have a recommended linux flavor for notebook pcs? | 13:53 |
| oldeffingibm | I like ubuntu but for some reason, it's not as battery efficient as compared to runnning Vista... :-S | 13:54 |
| Myrtti | oldeffingibm: other than buntu? | 13:54 |
| oldeffingibm | sure, why not :) | 13:54 |
| Myrtti | oldeffingibm: I've not found as good distro for laptops than buntu | 13:54 |
| Myrtti | so... | 13:55 |
| Myrtti | "buntu" | 13:55 |
| Myrtti | hth, hand, etc. | 13:55 |
| oldeffingibm | That's what a lot of people at forums say. And they even get longer time.. some doubled.. than Vista/XP | 13:56 |
| oldeffingibm | I just can't get my machine to produce the same results.. | 13:56 |
| oldeffingibm | Even at all the lowest settings | 13:59 |
| oldeffingibm | and tweaks | 13:59 |
| thinkmassive | I've got a DVD video made by a friend (no CSS) and I want to duplicate it... can I just rip an iso and burn it? | 16:27 |
| favro | sure :) | 16:29 |
| thinkmassive | nice, thanks :) | 16:29 |
| favro | !devede | 16:30 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about devede | 16:30 |
| favro | !info devede | 16:30 |
| ubottu | devede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.6-0.0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1128 kB, installed size 2592 kB | 16:30 |
| thinkmassive | how about encrypted movies that I legally own? | 16:31 |
| bytor4232 | thinkmassive: You need to use something to rip it off the disk. Thats technically illegal. | 16:32 |
| bytor4232 | thinkmassive: I "hear" that mencoder will do this well ;) | 16:32 |
| thinkmassive | ah ok, I suppose I won't do it then, but if someone from a country where it is legal asks, then I will recommend that, thanks bytor4232 | 16:33 |
| vinnl | ...you guys are so politically correct... :P | 16:33 |
| thinkmassive | heh | 16:39 |
| venome | hi, i've got a minor issue with my touchscreen ... when I start the system in recovery, the device (/dev/input/event3) responds all right ... but when I start normal system, I can't get anything from /dev/input/event3 and the touchscreen does not work ... does anyone know what could went wrong? | 18:30 |
| nclife | heya. I'm looking for a fast a light bittorrent client | 18:58 |
| nclife | there's one called BitTorrent Download Client which is a Gnome interface for executing BitTorrent files | 18:58 |
| nclife | anyone know if that one is any good? | 18:59 |
| === zac_ is now known as niceguy | ||
| niceguy | hello everybody | 19:00 |
| Myrtti | what's wrong with transmission? | 19:00 |
| nclife | ah nothing, is transmission good enough? I haven't tried it | 19:01 |
| niceguy | was wondering if anyone could help me with this- my objective is to run a bashfile that spawns xfce4-terminal and cats a file in the window that spawns. The trouble is, i think cat runs and stops so fast, that the windows closes- and i cant see anything | 19:02 |
| Myrtti | it's excellent and has come a long way since the early days I tried it | 19:02 |
| nclife | sweet, I shall give it a try then | 19:03 |
| nclife | thanks | 19:03 |
| niceguy | so i need to figure out a better way... its a 'todo' list.. of course its transparent on my desktop | 19:03 |
| niceguy | i can include 'less' in the -e switch, but there's the annoying EOF at the bottom of the window | 19:04 |
| bytor4232 | niceguy: Put your commands in a script, and put "read" at the end. It will wait for a keypress. | 19:18 |
| niceguy | "read" at the end of the original bashfile? | 19:23 |
| niceguy | i guess i would like to not see anything but the text in the file | 19:26 |
| e319 | I am looking to get vmware tools actually working with Xubuntu, any clues on installing vmware tools? I have Xubuntu in a virtual machine file currently | 19:44 |
| vinnl | It might be in the Canonical partner repositories | 19:46 |
| vinnl | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Canonical%20Partner%20Repositories | 19:46 |
| === Hondo_Kitsune is now known as HK_Away | ||
| === HK_Away is now known as Hondo_Kitsune | ||
| Tobbe | Hi guys. I just installed xubuntu on an old laptop. I need some help getting wireless working | 21:51 |
| Tobbe | I've found Network Settings, but I can't figure out how to configure it | 21:51 |
| vinnl | Tobbe, you need the icon in the top right-hand corner | 21:52 |
| vinnl | Left-click it once (the one with the monitors I believe) | 21:52 |
| Tobbe | it has a few vertical lines, but yeah | 21:52 |
| vinnl | That should list wireless networks if your card is working | 21:53 |
| Tobbe | it finds my wirless network, but I need to supply a static IP, netmask, gateway and dns server | 21:53 |
| Tobbe | and I can't figure out how to do that | 21:53 |
| vinnl | Hmm, OK, not sure what that all is (I think, though, you'll be able to do all that from there when Xubuntu 8.10 arrives), but I suppose you'll be able to configure that from the "Manual configuration" (/network settings) | 21:54 |
| vinnl | Tobbe, you'd have to disable roaming mode first | 21:54 |
| vinnl | (What version of Xubuntu are you using btw?) | 21:54 |
| Tobbe | latest 8.04.1 I beleive | 21:55 |
| vinnl | OK, are you in the manual configuration? | 21:55 |
| Tobbe | yeah, it says roaming is enabled in Network Settings | 21:55 |
| vinnl | OK, you'll have to disable that | 21:56 |
| Tobbe | ok | 21:57 |
| vinnl | Then you can change the setting for "Configuration" and enter the stuff you want | 21:57 |
| Tobbe | then it asks for "Password type", can be wep or wpa, but I can't choose "none" | 21:57 |
| vinnl | Tobbe, just enter none | 21:58 |
| vinnl | *no password | 21:58 |
| vinnl | *sigh* | 21:58 |
| vinnl | *Just don't enter a password | 21:58 |
| vinnl | (Yes, that is counter-intuitive) | 21:58 |
| Tobbe | ok, so I can just leave it at WEP, or whatever, and leave the password field blank? | 21:59 |
| vinnl | Yep | 21:59 |
| Tobbe | success! | 22:00 |
| Tobbe | thank you :) | 22:00 |
| vinnl | My pleasure :) | 22:00 |
| Rindae | can i use getdeb for xubuntu? | 22:56 |
| vinnl | Rindae, yup | 22:56 |
| Rindae | kk | 22:56 |
| Rindae | but not kubuntu? | 22:56 |
| vinnl | Kubuntu as well | 22:56 |
| Rindae | ok | 22:57 |
| Rindae | but gnome and xfce use both gtk? | 22:57 |
| Myrtti | yup | 22:57 |
| Rindae | ^^ | 22:58 |
| Rindae | is the alternate-version easy to install? | 22:59 |
| Myrtti | fairly so, yes. | 22:59 |
| Odd-rationale | Rindae: yes | 22:59 |
| vinnl | If you're not scared, yes ^.^ | 22:59 |
| Odd-rationale | well, for us... :P | 22:59 |
| Rindae | hehe, ok, thanks for the help! | 22:59 |
| Rindae | hehe | 22:59 |
| vinnl | Odd-rationale, if you compare it to the LiveCD it's not much more difficult... | 22:59 |
| vinnl | Rindae, good luck :) | 23:00 |
| Rindae | ye, thanks | 23:00 |
| Odd-rationale | no it's not... i find it faster as well... | 23:00 |
| vinnl | No it's not as in no it's not more difficult? :P | 23:00 |
| Odd-rationale | vinnl: no as is... uh, in other words, i agree with you... :P | 23:01 |
| vinnl | Hehe | 23:01 |
| zoredache | I think the alternate is easier to work with... I would guess others would disagree | 23:01 |
| Odd-rationale | plus more options aswell... | 23:01 |
| vinnl | Which is why it's great to have a choice :) | 23:01 |
| Rindae | any good multi fps? | 23:18 |
| Rindae | and not any quakemod | 23:19 |
| === Tobbe is now known as Tobbe|autoaway | ||
| Rindae | :D | 23:40 |
| Rindae | then im off to install | 23:40 |
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