/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/20/#kubuntu.txt

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Tukonanyone see usb keyboards not working in intrepid alpha 6?00:03
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favroTukon: do you know there is #ubuntu+1 for intrepid talk?00:34
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cosmofieldAnyone here using icecat?00:42
Tukonfavro: thanks00:44
favronp :)00:44
favrowhat's icecat?00:44
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Schuenemannis it possible to use chmod to change file permissions for a specific user?00:55
zipperi think you want to take a look at 'chown' for that00:56
zipperchanges the ownership of a file00:56
zipperdunno if thats what you want?00:56
zipperchown user:group filename00:56
Schuenemannhmmm... suppose I have a file and I want someone to have read access to it. Just that. Can I?00:56
zippersure, but it might be a little tricky00:57
Gladyyep00:57
zipperyou could change the ownership of the file to that user, and then only allow that user to read it (and noone else)00:57
Gladyanother program runing with a common name00:57
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Schuenemannwhy does he have to become the owner?00:58
Schuenemanncouldn't that be undoable?00:58
favrowhat's wrong with chmod o+r00:59
zipperbut if you want several users to read it, but not other users, you need to add those users to a group, and then allow that group to read the file00:59
zipperfavro, nothing if it already has the right owner00:59
zippermy bad, i assumed it didnt01:00
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chris_____uhm where does ubuntu store its bootloader? apparently the drive is not bootable anymore01:01
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Guest19504how can I pause the bootup process? for some reason I can't find a few thing in syslog01:02
Guest19504how can I pause the bootup process? for some reason I can't find a few thing in syslog01:03
jkuboschekhey guys, i just got a new dvd drive and it's not recognized in kubuntu. can someone help me?01:04
zipperfavro, ehh, nevermind me, i've had a few =P. o+r would allow everyone to read it, i dont think thats what he wants01:06
zippero = others.... no?01:07
Schuenemannothers not in the file group01:07
zipperyes ok, just making sure01:07
SchuenemannI was reading the man page and this question appeared01:08
zipperbut as i said before, i'm pretty sure the only way to do what you want, is through groups01:08
zipperthat way you can specificly decide which users should have access and which shouldnt01:08
SchuenemannI see01:08
zipperbut keep reading man, it usually knows better than me =)01:09
favroo+r will let all people read it but not write or execute if they aren't in the same group  as the owner01:09
zipperfavro, yeah i know, i just got got the 'o' part confused with owner since i dont usually use letters with chmod01:09
Schuenemannwell, it will change only read permission. the other ones stay the same01:10
LeeJunFanchris_____: first sector of the hd.01:10
jkuboschekhey guys, i just got a new dvd drive and it's not recognized in kubuntu. can someone help me?01:10
LeeJunFanchris_____: you need to re-install grub or something?01:10
Schuenemannjkuboschek, I probably can't, but give more details about the drive01:10
chris_____LeeJunFan: i probably have to... and i dont mean the MBR, i need the bootloader01:10
LeeJunFanchris_____: ah, okay.01:11
ign0ramusjkuboschek: what kind of drive (brand, model)01:11
ign0ramuschris_____: are you talking about your grub?01:11
jkuboschekign0ramus: HP 1035I 20X IDE01:11
chris_____if i select my ubuntu partition as active it cant boot01:12
Schuenemannchris_____, the image?01:12
chris_____but it should, shouldnt it?01:12
DreadKnightheya; anyone familiar with tablets around? want to map my stylus button to right click01:13
ign0ramusjkuboschek: different model, but maybe try disabling in the bios... from here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/17613301:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 176133 in linux-source-2.6.22 "TSSTcorp SN-S082D DVD-drive not found" [Undecided,Won't fix]01:13
ign0ramuschris_____: what do you mean if you 'select your partition as active'...?  Is this on your GRUB loading screen?01:14
* DreadKnight strugles to map his stylus button to right-click01:14
chris_____ign0ramus: no i am referring to making the partition bootable01:14
chris_____via flag in the MBR01:15
LeeJunFanchris_____: it doesn't need to be for linux. I've never marked a partition as bootable. Grub takes care of it.  I think grub just cuts straight to the kernel itself doesn't it?01:15
jkuboschekign0ramus: thanks, but i'm running 8.04 :) i've just tried something, brb01:15
chris_____im talking about BIOS level here01:15
chris_____bios boots this partition and it cant01:16
chris_____it can boot other partitions however01:16
Gladywhat is on that partition?01:16
chris_____so... i must have had my grub on another drive?01:16
chris_____ubuntu is on that partition, but i had to delete the swap drive01:17
ign0ramuschris_____: if it were properly configured, then yes, you've answered your own question01:17
LeeJunFanchris_____: I think I'm on a different car on the thought train with you. BIOS loads MBR (Grub), Grub loads kernel, kernel loads init...01:17
chris_____mbr is not grub01:17
Gladyhow u can delete the swap drive01:17
LeeJunFanchris_____: what is it then?01:17
Gladyit makes non sense chris01:17
ign0ramuschris_____: bios will always seek an mbr of some type to boot... if it's failing on one partition, but working on another, then the trouble is most likely with the partition01:18
LeeJunFangrub is the bootloader, it's installed to the mbr.01:18
chris_____mbr is a partition table that also holds flags for which partition the bios is going to boot from01:18
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LeeJunFanthe partition table is AFTER the mbr01:18
LeeJunFanmbr is the code that takes over where bios ends.01:18
byteme_hi all01:19
chris_____i can select partition 1 and 2 as active and the both boot01:20
chris_____if i select partition 3 (linux) as active (boot flag) it dont boot01:20
chris_____it makes no sense that grub comes before partition table01:20
LeeJunFanchris_____: some operating systems put their kernel starting on the first byte of the partition it's installed on, so if the bios boots that partition then it's loading the kernel (windows), linux does not put it's kernel in such a way.01:21
LeeJunFanchris_____: you need to install grub to the mbr of your hd.01:21
ign0ramusmbr contains the partition table01:21
ign0ramusnot really going to fix chris_____'s problem, but may help some people: http://duartes.org/gustavo/blog/post/how-computers-boot-up01:22
LeeJunFanthe partition table is the first bytes following the mbr.01:22
LeeJunFanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record01:23
chris_____i dont HAVE to alter the mbr to boot linux do i?01:24
chris_____all OS have boot menus dont they?01:24
chris_____i can boot my XP drive and select another partition to boot from there, just like grub01:24
danubiohi01:24
favrohi danubio01:25
chris_____but if theres no bootloader there (which is my problem) i get a failure01:25
compilerwriterIs there anyone interested in making a package for me?  I have tried to get a tarball to compile but am having dependency issues just getting ready to compile.01:25
danubioalguien habla español?01:25
favrochris_____: you can get grub back using the live cd01:26
ign0ramus!es | danubio01:26
ubottudanubio: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:26
compilerwriterOr better yet could walk me through the compile?01:26
chris_____favro: im on the live cd... what command should i look up?01:26
favrochris_____: you do the work from konsole - start with sudo grub01:27
LeeJunFanchris_____: when your bios tries to boot it simply executes code in a linear fashion, so it starts at byte 0 of whichever partition you slect. With windows that's kernel code - so it's okay. With linux byte 0 might be some html cache or something, to load linux you NEED a bootloader like grub on your MBR.01:27
compilerwriterJucato you availiable for a few minutes?01:27
LeeJunFan!grube01:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about grube01:27
LeeJunFan!grub01:27
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:27
ign0ramuschris_____: http://pastebin.com/m71d52b8501:27
chris_____tx guys... im gonna read up on that01:28
chris_____partitions in linux start with 0?01:29
ign0ramuschris_____: yep01:29
ign0ramuschris_____: Unix numbering system begins with 001:30
byteme_hi all I just installed 8.04 to make a dual boot system. Upon restarting for the first time I get a grub 19 error01:34
LeeJunFanit's grub night01:34
chris_____have to reboot the cd01:35
byteme_do I replace current BL in the MBL witht the linux one?01:35
compilerwriterThat or it could be package night LeeJunFan01:35
DreadKnightbyteme_: you're in deep shit with that...01:35
byteme_nooo man01:35
DreadKnightbyteme_: you could try that01:36
ign0ramusbyteme_: pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst01:36
byteme_I dont under stand what that error means though.     Does it mean   ---> Loading below 1MB is not supported01:37
ign0ramusbyteme_: alternatively, you can try fixing your grub with the livecd01:37
byteme_yeah thats what I was thinking01:37
LeeJunFanThis error is returned if the lowest address in a kernel is below the 1MB boundary. The Linux zImage format is a special case and can be handled since it has a fixed loading address and maximum size.01:37
byteme_I'm a newbie, but I'm learning fast01:37
ign0ramusbyteme_: you probably have initrd trying to run before the kernel is loaded01:38
LeeJunFanign0ramus: yeah, sounds about right.01:38
byteme_whats intrid?01:38
ign0ramusbyteme_: if you posted your /boot/grub/menu.lst, we could see for sure01:38
byteme_I can find that in dolphin?01:38
LeeJunFanbyteme_: it's a compressed image of a filesystem used during bootup by the kernel.01:39
LeeJunFanbyteme_: it holds modules and some other startup scripts mostly.01:39
byteme_ahhh01:39
ign0ramusbyteme_: ' kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst '01:39
ign0ramusor kwrite if it complains kate isn't installed01:39
byteme_that is ehat i type in the live cd?01:39
ign0ramussorry... i just automatically use kate for everything.01:39
ign0ramusbyteme_: yes, in a terminal01:39
byteme_gotcha01:39
LeeJunFanonly the path will be different.01:40
byteme_well crap what would that be?01:40
digistyl3does anyone use headphones with his laptop? i have a hda-intel sound card, and when i plug in my headphones, i don't hear any sound in them01:40
ign0ramusdigistyl3: what kind of laptop?01:41
geekdigistyl3: yeah, works fine on my thinkpad. check the volume? ;p01:41
ign0ramusgeek: it's a known issue with HDA Intel sound01:42
ign0ramus...but 99% fixable!01:42
geeklol01:42
digistyl3ign0ramus: dell studio 1501:42
geekign0ramus: is there a known issue with internal mics as well? ;p01:42
digistyl3ign0ramus: how can i fix it? :)01:42
ign0ramushttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto01:42
ign0ramusgeek: yes, usually mics and headphones will not work OOB with HDA Intel01:43
geekahh01:44
geeki'll need to poke this later then ;p01:44
digistyl3ign0ramus: do i have to do every step from that article?01:44
ign0ramusdigistyl3: no... read first, then ask questions if you still have them01:45
byteme_!pastebin01:46
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:46
ign0ramusdigistyl3: even better: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hardy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller01:47
ign0ramusdigistyl3: strike that, use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller  ... it should work for hardy as well01:47
digistyl3ign0ramus: well let's hope it works for intrepid too ;)01:48
ign0ramusdigistyl3: oh!  good luck!01:48
LeeJunFanbyteme_: you on the livecd on that system now?01:50
digistyl3ign0ramus: thanks for the links01:52
byteme_on another pc yes01:52
byteme_here is my boot menu01:52
byteme_http://paste.ubuntu.com/48447/01:52
ign0ramusdigistyl3: np dude.  also, check this out. guy with same laptop and his issues (and resolutions!) to hardware issues http://www.avalpa.com/assets/andrea/studio15/debian_on_dell_studio15.html01:53
LeeJunFanbyteme_: bad news: I'm either blind or this isn't going to be easy because I don't see anything wrong with it immediately. What did you do with the system before this started happening?01:55
ign0ramusLeeJunFan: i came to the same conclusion... :/01:55
byteme_fresh install of XP01:55
ign0ramusbyteme_: i think you should just repair your grub from the livecd then.  Windows generally will try to kill grub and install its mbr over top01:56
byteme_I am to give this PC to a custumer tomorrow01:56
LeeJunFanbyteme_: yeah, I agree with ign0ramus, although I'm confused as to how any grub is there at all after XP install.01:56
LeeJunFan!grub | byteme_01:57
ubottubyteme_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:57
digistyl3ign0ramus: just tell me your address so i can send you a beer ;)01:57
digistyl3:D01:57
byteme_I installed XP and then 8.04 using 50% of the drive01:57
byteme_%0-50 split01:57
* ign0ramus loves free beer!01:58
byteme_50-50 split01:58
LeeJunFanbyteme_: so XP was done first?01:58
byteme_yes01:58
byteme_I have always done it that way01:58
LeeJunFanbyteme_: yeah, best way to do it.01:58
qwerty121hello all! where can i find out the list of packages included in kubuntu 8.04.1 dvd?01:58
byteme_ok cool01:58
byteme_My store has been open for about two months01:59
LeeJunFanqwerty121: http://packages.ubuntu.com/01:59
tekstacy!apt-fix01:59
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:59
LeeJunFanqwerty121: well, that may not be specific to the DVD but rather all packages available - sry.01:59
byteme_and 99% (litterally) of the machines have Kubuntu on them01:59
byteme_only 2 were XP and NOT 1 VISTA PC  lol02:00
qwerty121LeeJunFan: i tried to google on it. but didn't find out.02:00
qwerty121anyone else with a link?02:00
byteme_I push K hard02:00
byteme_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:01
byteme_is that the link I need?02:01
ign0ramusyep :)02:01
byteme_cool02:01
byteme_I'm going for it02:01
byteme_that a heep for your help02:02
byteme_I may be back for more of it   :o)02:02
cgentry72why do my application look like windows 3.1 in the newest kde02:03
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qwerty121windows 3.1?02:03
qwerty121O_O02:03
geeko002:03
LeeJunFanbyteme_: I have people actually asking me for linux now, a bit of a switch. I guess when I work on their systems and tell them I never have to work on mine because linux doesn't have the same problems it sinks in.02:04
cgentry72yes02:04
ForgeAushehe really 3.1 is it that bad?02:04
cgentry72like firefox and xchat both are really grey and square02:04
ForgeAusit does look grey and windows-ish (especially with a dark taskbar) but not very windows 3.1ish imho02:04
LeeJunFancgentry72: newest kde you mean 3.5.x or 4.1.x?02:04
cgentry72LeeJunFan, 4.102:04
LeeJunFanah, okay.02:04
byteme_lol yeah, I have had one or two do that02:04
byteme_its great02:04
LeeJunFancgentry72: sudo apt-get install gtk-qt-engine-kde402:05
cgentry72LeeJunFan, ok thanks02:05
byteme_!grub02:05
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:05
LeeJunFancgentry72: then go into system settings and turn on the gtk styles in appearance.02:05
cgentry72LeeJunFan, ok02:05
LeeJunFancgentry72: install lancelot to replace the default kde4 menu too :)02:06
ign0ramusbyteme_: just for s&g's, does the command ' sudo update-grub ' do anything for you?02:06
cgentry72LeeJunFan, where do i find it, the same way?02:06
LeeJunFancgentry72: sudo apt-get install plasmoid-lancelot - then add the plasmoid to your panel by right clicking.02:06
ForgeAusbrb02:06
byteme_remember I am on live cd02:06
byteme_but I will check02:06
MrB0ndI have a question?02:07
byteme_oh, I also am not on the web02:07
cgentry72LeeJunFan, returns couldn't find package on last one02:07
ign0ramusbyteme_: ok, do this, step-by-step with me02:07
byteme_ok one sec02:07
byteme_let me bring the pc closer to me rather than run into the showroom02:08
LeeJunFancgentry72: oh, you aren't using the ppa sources for kde 4.1.1.02:08
Gladygo ahead james02:08
ign0ramusbyteme_: heh :)02:08
byteme_2 minutes02:08
ign0ramusRUN! :P02:08
cgentry72LeeJunFan, hmmm how do i add those02:08
MrB0ndDoes any one installed Kubuntu in Sony new FW series 16.4 Inch laptop02:08
MrB0nd?02:08
LeeJunFancgentry72: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.102:08
LeeJunFannewer kde 4 too02:08
ign0ramusMrB0nd: what is your problem? what distro version, and what version of kde?02:09
MrB0ndI installed successfully the Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy , but when I boot I get a blank screen02:09
LeeJunFanMrB0nd: totally blank or is there a mouse pointer? etc?02:10
cgentry72LeeJunFan, hey thanks for you help02:10
LeeJunFancgentry72: your welcome02:10
MrB0ndno mouse pointer just blank , with some distored black spots02:11
MrB0ndIf any of you guys had same experience I will be glad to know how you resolved this, and also many of them will be glad too02:11
ign0ramusMrB0nd: can you boot into Recovery Mode (or at least get a terminal)?02:12
LeeJunFanMrB0nd: if you hit ctrl-alt-f1 do you get a console?02:12
MrB0ndLeeJunFan: Does that put me into text mode?02:12
LeeJunFanMrB0nd: yeah.02:12
LeeJunFanit should anyway02:12
ign0ramusbetter than 'blank screen mode'! :P02:12
chris_____thanks guys my linux is bootable again02:13
ign0ramuschris_____: cool.  glad everything worked out02:13
MrB0ndLeeJunFan : Thats great , I havent tried that , lemme try it . Yes its better than blank screen02:13
LeeJunFantrying to determine if your system actually booted and it's X that's messed up or if it's something more nefarius like framebuffer or the kernel.02:13
ign0ramuschris_____: and well all learned something about the boot process today!02:13
chris_____so youre sure that i cant boot linux just from a partition without grubbing the MBR?02:13
byteme_ok, its up and in Konsole ign0ramus02:14
chris_____igno0ramus: hehe see? i havent:)02:14
LeeJunFanchris_____: unles you load grub on something else your BIOS will boot from like a floppy or usb device.02:14
ign0ramuschris_____: *facepalm* Just leave well enough alone already! xD02:14
ign0ramusbyteme_: ' sudo grub '02:15
LeeJunFan*facepalm* :)02:15
MrB0ndLeeJunFan : Thanks , I will try that now02:15
ign0ramusbyteme_: ' find /boot/grub/stage1 '02:15
ign0ramusbyteme_: what does it say?02:15
geekchris_____: you could probably chainload grub from ntldr...02:15
LeeJunFanbbiab - have to pick up a kid.02:16
ign0ramusLeeJunFan: just any kid?02:16
ign0ramus:)02:16
byteme_it tells me minimal task lists are excepted02:16
geekits doable, but not common unless you used wubi or unetbootin02:16
byteme_oh, sorry I should ahve read your second task02:16
chris_____geek: hmm.. may i ask again.. is grub in the mbr or is it not?02:16
ign0ramusbyteme_: it doesn't give you something like (hd0,3)?02:16
byteme_brb'02:16
ign0ramushaha02:16
geekchris_____: i think it is, but it dosen't have to be02:17
chris_____*sigh*02:17
chris_____i better read up on that tomorrow:))02:17
ign0ramuschris_____: chris, i will honestly tell you what you're trying to do is beyond me, although it probably is possible02:17
geekchris_____: you can choose not to install grub in the mbr, which is better in some cases02:17
byteme_file not found02:18
ign0ramusbyteme_: hmm... hang on02:18
byteme_hanging...02:18
chris_____geek: maybe i should try that.. thats exactly what i was hoping i could do btw02:18
ign0ramusbyteme_: you typed (or pasted) exactly? 'find /boot/grub/stage1' ?02:19
ign0ramusbyteme_: just making sure.02:19
byteme_I'll try again02:19
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byteme_space between find and /  ?02:20
ign0ramusbyteme_: yes.  you can c&p to be sure02:20
chris_____all my OSes have their own choice of other OSes now... its like a maze:)02:20
ign0ramusshift+insert pastes in terminal02:20
byteme_I would, but its on another pc02:20
byteme_:o)02:20
ign0ramusbyteme_: oh yeah02:20
* ign0ramus puts on robe and dunce cap02:21
MrB0nd!help02:22
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:22
byteme_hd0, 402:22
ign0ramusbyteme_: there we go!02:22
ign0ramusbyteme_: 'root (hd0,4)'  *space between root and (02:22
byteme_k02:23
byteme_ok, it took me to the promt with no result02:24
ign0ramusbyteme_: 'setup (hd0)' *space after 'setup'02:24
byteme_"suceeded"02:25
ign0ramusbyteme_: then 'quit'... and reboot to your HDD (take out disc)02:25
byteme_k02:25
ign0ramusbyteme_: then *pray*02:25
ign0ramus:)02:25
byteme_lol, I never stopped02:26
ign0ramushaha02:26
ign0ramusbyteme_: what we've done is (re)installed grub to your master partition.  hopefully everything will work properly now02:27
byteme_lol, well before I was getting an "error 19"02:28
ign0ramuserror 8?02:28
byteme_now its an 1802:28
ign0ramusbyteme_: :(02:28
byteme_so... I guess that progress  ?02:28
ign0ramusbyteme_: lemme see what else we can do02:28
byteme_1 closer to o02:28
ign0ramusbyteme_: yeah... we'll just keep going down until there is no error!02:28
byteme_lol, can I make you a cup of coffee?02:29
Gladylol02:29
Gladybite me02:29
Gladyi just got it02:29
byteme_whats a good digital brew?02:29
byteme_Glady: thats the name of my computer store  :o)02:30
Gladyoh02:30
Gladyu seel computers?02:30
Gladysell02:30
Gladysorry02:30
Gladyexhausted here02:31
Gladywhat a day i had02:31
byteme_sell/repair (with the help of ignoramous) modding, you name it02:31
ign0ramusbyteme_: can you get into that computer's BIOS?02:31
chris_____are you hiring gifted overclockers?:)02:31
byteme_yup02:31
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byteme_chris_____: hehe02:32
Gladylol02:32
ign0ramusbyteme_: Error 18 - selected cylinder exceeds the maximum cylinder value supported by the bios.02:32
ign0ramusbyteme_: we'll see what settings you have applied in the BIOS02:32
byteme_ok there02:33
Gladyrofl02:33
byteme_cylndrs 102402:33
byteme_is that what you mean?02:34
ign0ramusbyteme_: no02:34
ign0ramus:)02:34
byteme_lol02:34
ign0ramusbyteme_: are you in bios?02:34
byteme_yes02:34
ign0ramusbyteme_: ok, are there any HDD settings you can change (like LBA > Auto, etc)?02:34
chris_____guys you have to mess with bios settings?:)02:35
GladyI think they are tired02:36
Gladycylinders are in cars not in the bios02:36
chris_____lol02:36
byteme_auto yes02:36
ign0ramuschris_____: the dreaded Grub Error 1802:36
ign0ramusbyteme_: was it set to auto?02:36
ign0ramusbyteme_: whatever it was, change it02:36
byteme_lba no02:37
byteme_ok02:37
ign0ramusbyteme_: save changes and reboot02:37
ign0ramusand keep praying02:37
byteme_it just has 'type of drive'   ---> "auto, user defined, none, cdrom, stuff like that."02:38
christopherhola02:39
ign0ramusbyteme_: it was on 'auto'?02:39
christopheralguien que escriba español02:39
christophero algo parecido02:39
ign0ramus!es | christopher02:39
ubottuchristopher: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:39
byteme_just the specs of the drive (cyl,headers, sectors and such02:40
ign0ramusbyteme_: damn02:40
byteme_if I user define it, I dont think it would change anything casue the values would have to be the same02:40
kibahi02:41
kibaI want to reformat my partition02:41
kibaI mean resize my partition02:41
kibawhat is the recommended way to do this?02:41
ign0ramusbyteme_: try the 'none' option... it may be for slave02:41
byteme_you know? But hey I've been an idiot my whole life I could be one even now!02:41
byteme_ok02:41
ign0ramuskiba: use qtparted or gparted or the livecd02:41
ign0ramus!qtparted02:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about qtparted02:41
dr_williskiba,  live cd  that has gparted, is the normal way.. Unless you are using vista and want to resize a vista partition02:42
ign0ramushey dr_willis02:42
byteme_ok did that and drive specs when to spec heaven.02:42
byteme_want me to reboot?02:42
ign0ramusbyteme_: can't be worse than what we have now... see what it does02:42
byteme_lol true02:42
byteme_brb02:43
dr_willisIve not had to tell the bios the drive specs.. in years...   is this a really old systemn or somtning?02:43
ign0ramusdr_willis: any experience with Grub Error 18?02:43
LeeJunFanign0ramus: is it 18 now or still 19?02:43
byteme_bummer I no longer have a hard drive02:43
dr_willisign0ramus,  not really. Id have to go to the grub homepage and read what it means.. :)02:43
LeeJunFanor was that the other guy?02:43
ign0ramusLeeJunFan: we're down to 18 now ;)02:43
LeeJunFanI'm confused.02:43
ign0ramusLeeJunFan: everyone is having grub issues tonight02:43
LeeJunFanign0ramus: yay, only 17 more to go after that - lol02:44
Gladyomg02:44
Gladyteens room02:44
byteme_hehe we are making progress02:44
ign0ramusLeeJunFan: i got his grub reinstalled, but now he gets Error 18 - selected cylinder exceeds the maximum cylinder value supported by the bios.02:44
byteme_kinda like congress02:44
ign0ramusbyteme_: is this a really old computer?  what kind is it?02:44
byteme_especially now02:44
dr_willisError 18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS02:44
kibaodd02:45
byteme_this is a HP P402:45
kibawhy my cd drive won't pop out the CD?02:45
ign0ramusdr_willis: yeah, but we're trying to figure out how get grub and BIOS to play nicely02:45
dr_williskiba,  its being accessed/used you got a filemanager in there..02:45
LeeJunFanbyteme_: did you put a new hd in it?02:45
dr_willisign0ramus,  i was thinking there was the LBA option.02:45
byteme_yes02:45
LeeJunFanbyteme_: what size?02:45
ign0ramusdr_willis: that's what i asked him... he said that wasn't a bios option02:46
dr_willisign0ramus,  or theres the old 'make a /boot' partition on the start of the HD option02:46
byteme_(maybe should have told you that)  my bad02:46
kibahmm02:46
ign0ramusdr_willis: yeah, we'll try that last02:46
kibaI don't think I have dolphin running02:46
byteme_I'll look02:46
ign0ramusdr_willis: can you do that without a full reinstall?02:46
dr_willisign0ramus,  proberly could - if you know what you are doing02:46
ign0ramusdr_willis: then forget it.  xD02:47
dr_willisresize the hd from gparted live cd.. and so on..02:47
dr_willisBUT it seems odd that grub is having an issue.. if the live cd's see it fine02:47
byteme_oh yeah, there 'WAS' that option before I installed the new hard drive02:47
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ign0ramusbyteme_: was this a new (completely formatted) hard drive?02:48
byteme_yes02:48
dr_willisHow big is this HD?02:48
byteme_low level02:48
byteme_25002:48
dr_willis250mb or gb?02:48
dr_willisYou did a lowlevel format?02:49
ign0ramusbyteme_: i forget, do you have windows installed on this drive?02:49
byteme_split ---- 122 for XP and 123 for Linux02:49
byteme_yes, it was the first install made02:49
byteme_on the drive02:49
ign0ramusbyteme_: so you never got Kubuntu working at all on this drive?02:49
ign0ramusbyteme_: you may find it quicker to re-install than messing with all this02:50
byteme_no, I get the "19" error after the first restart after install02:50
dr_willisbut sometimes grub can get confused if you have a USB pen drive in when you boot up.02:50
ign0ramusbyteme_: Hardy disc?02:51
ign0ramusbyteme_: if you do a reinstall, try putting your /boot partition first02:52
dr_willisHmm.. error 18 and error 19 are radically different errors... :)02:52
byteme_no usb drives02:52
byteme_Hardy?02:52
ign0ramusdr_willis: he had Error 19... We reinstalled GRUB from LiveCD, and now he gets Error 1802:52
kibaI been on hardy hardon02:52
kibabefore it become stable...02:52
ign0ramusbyteme_: what version of Kubuntu are you using (8.04)?02:53
kibanow what...02:53
byteme_oh sorry.. yeah it's8.0402:53
dr_willisign0ramus,  looking at the grub manuals they mention a    [--force-lba]    option02:54
ign0ramusbyteme_: listen to dr_willis- he's much more well-versed in these matters than i am02:54
byteme_seems the lba mode should be in bios but I cant see it02:54
byteme_or find it rather02:54
dr_willishttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Booting-fallback-systems  section 13.3.18 install02:54
dr_willisI cant rember the last time i had to mess with  drives in the bios other then use the 'auto' setting02:55
byteme_but how can I use this fallback option if this is a fresh install?02:55
dr_willisreinstall grub and give it the  --force-lba option..02:56
dr_willisassuming that IS the real issue..02:56
ign0ramusbyteme_: can you change HDD settings to 'normal' in BIOS?02:56
ign0ramusi'm looking here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1176402:56
LeeJunFanbyteme_: it's probably auto, I have a crappy sony laptop that auto detects LBA supposedly, but an 80G drive that works fine on another laptop only shows up as 40 in that one :(02:56
byteme_I'll check02:56
setyalinuxhy02:56
dr_willisI would set the hd settings back to 'auto' in the bios.. and perhaps try the --force-lba option02:56
ign0ramusdr_willis: others with the Error 18 issued reported LBA as the culprit.... :/02:58
byteme_yes, sweet, I found the LBA mode area. Dumbest place to put it02:58
byteme_ok it is on LBA mode02:58
ign0ramusbyteme_: most people said setting it to 'normal' fixed the issue02:58
byteme_we need normal?02:58
ign0ramusbyteme_: try all possible ways02:58
byteme_great ok02:59
byteme_rebooting02:59
byteme_:o(   "18" gain02:59
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byteme_I'll try anopther one02:59
ign0ramusbyteme_: why not? :)02:59
ign0ramusbyteme_: first, set everything back to 'default'... then just change HDD settings, one at a time03:00
byteme_match partition table? I have never used that option before03:00
ign0ramusbyteme_: no idea03:01
byteme_is that kosher?03:01
ign0ramusbyteme_: is that what it asks you when you set to default?03:01
byteme_oh, I'll check (I havcent tried that yet)03:01
byteme_what about ultra DMA mode?03:02
kralphi have added a physical drive to my hardy machine with a win OS on it. is there a simple way to configure grub to duel boot with it? running kde 4 w/ kgrubeditor03:02
byteme_its on 5 ?/03:02
ign0ramusbyteme_: just out of curiosity, how do you have your jumpers set?03:02
ign0ramusbyteme_: if its the only drive, make sure its not set to Slave03:03
byteme_default is auto03:03
dr_williskralph,  I would manually edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot it. :) its not that hard to learn   the grub config syntax. and theres an example entry  in the comments for a windows isntall on 'hda1' you wouldjust uncomment the lines. and change  hda, to be the right hard drive03:03
byteme_its on CS (cable selct)03:04
ign0ramusbyteme_: that's ok03:04
byteme_like a lone drive should03:04
dr_willisIve neer used any grub  fancy grub config tools03:04
byteme_I have only had two errors in linux durring boot up in the year I have been playing with it03:05
kralphthe grub editor is pretty confusing. sounds like you suggestion is a good one, dr what you talkin bout willis03:05
byteme_this is one of them03:05
kralph:)03:05
ign0ramusbyteme_: does your BIOS correctly show the size of the disk?03:05
byteme_I ahve installed in close to 100+ machines03:06
dr_williskralph,  talking about Kicking Up grub - OLD skool style! with a Text editor and some  Learning! :P03:06
ign0ramusdr_willis: that's what i like to hear!03:06
kralphbrb dr willis will let you know how it goes03:06
nejodebyteme: you can get a grub error 18 if your grub configfiles and kernels are over the 137 mb line03:07
byteme_oddly it doesnt say, however it does tell me the model number and that is correct03:07
byteme_(it has 250 in the model #)03:08
byteme_(max. LBA capacity is 845503:08
ign0ramusbyteme_: i just read that someone with a WD HDD changed it from Cable Select to Master and got rid of the Error 18... but that doesn't seem to make much sense03:10
byteme_ok I switched the LBA to normal and rebooteda nd now grub is freaking out03:10
ign0ramusbyteme_: freaking out?03:10
LeeJunFanbyteme_: you might try updating the BIOS in that machine too.03:10
ign0ramusLeeJunFan: definitely03:10
dr_willisSome hd/bios ,may not do CS correctly i guess. :)03:10
byteme_yeah GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB03:11
LeeJunFanwith LBA off I bet grub can't even see it.03:11
byteme_like that all over the screen03:11
ign0ramusbyteme_: sorry, but that's actually pretty funny (to me, anyway)03:11
LeeJunFanhrm, I wonder if re-installing grub now that lba is off would make any diff. Because disabling lba would change the address the bios would get to the kernel on.03:12
byteme_wd dont like the jumper on master if its alone, in my experience03:12
ign0ramusbyteme_: well, there's still a bunch of stuff - updating BIOS, moving /root to beginning of drive, changing to Master drive, reinstalling entirely under 'normal' or 'LBA'....03:12
LeeJunFanI never have good luck with CS, I always set mine to master.03:12
byteme_hmm, odd03:13
ign0ramusfwiw, i always do Master myself when only one HDD03:13
ign0ramusit shouldn't matter, but i've never had problems that way, so that's how i always do it03:13
byteme_well, lets just gang up on the newbie here shall we???!!03:13
nejodebyteme: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3081671.msg109864#msg10986403:13
ign0ramusbyteme_: no, CS should be fine... but at this point, anything's viable03:14
byteme_lol, I'll switch it to master and see what happends03:14
ign0ramusi don't think byteme_ is on the web03:14
byteme_tru-dat03:14
ign0ramusbyteme_: why not, may i ask?03:14
LeeJunFanbyteme_: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/over.htm03:14
byteme_what do you mean?03:14
byteme_www.bytemecomputers.net        <---- and dont laugh. its by far not done03:15
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byteme_is that what you mean?03:15
LeeJunFanwow, that page recommends 500M for /boot - lol. A bit overkill.03:16
kralphokie then dr_willis - ive found the sample entry in menu.lst and not sure to what to put insead of (hd0,0). when i look at the HD properties in dolphin it calls the disk 'sda1'. is that appropriate?03:16
ign0ramusbyteme_: didn't you say you couldn't follow links cause you weren't on the web?03:16
byteme_lol, the PC i'm working on isnt03:17
ign0ramusbyteme_: your site reminds me of *Anus* laptops! http://anuslaptops.com/03:17
ign0ramusbyteme_: that's not an insult- the site is legendary!03:17
LeeJunFanyour dog is excreting green stuff and gassy clouds :)03:18
byteme_but I lol is that for real?03:18
byteme_holy cow03:18
ign0ramusbyteme_: i was a 'honeypot' site for scambaiters - the guys who bait the Nigerian scammers and such03:18
ign0ramus*it was03:18
byteme_I thought I was bold03:18
ign0ramusbyteme_: basically, people were solicited by scammers, so they set up a fake site, and got these Nigerian scammers to do the craziest stuff (including paying duties on what they thought was a bunch of laptops)03:19
LeeJunFanlol - I love the motto under the business name :)03:19
ign0ramus-they sent boxes of garbage instead :P03:19
byteme_lol03:20
byteme_thats sweet03:20
ign0ramusIt's the best story I ever read online. I know its off-topic, but I'm leaving soon, and thought i'd share: http://www.thescambaiter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10903:21
dr_williskralph,  grub TOTALLY 'names' disks differently then  linux does. Note the hd0,0 format its using.03:23
ign0ramusok gotta run guys - Beers and Scotch awaits.03:23
ign0ramusgnite all03:23
dr_williskralph,  sda1 Might be hd0,003:23
kralphthats kunfusing...03:23
byteme_wow,  lol03:23
dr_williskralph,  no its not..03:23
byteme_thanks igno03:24
dr_willisgrub does not use the linxu names. because grub isent just for linux. :)03:24
dr_willisrember that grub starts counting at 0 also.. is a big sgumbling point.03:24
dr_willisMost likely sda1 will be hd0,003:24
byteme_booting on master now   crossing fingers03:26
kralphhrm,,, root for the ubuntu disk is called hd0,0 so that does not seem likely?03:26
dr_williskralph,   as i said. it can depend.   theres also some  /boot/grub/   file (device.map?) that shows what grub things various drives are named03:27
byteme_"prim. master fails"03:28
dr_willislook at fdisk -l, and see what other drives exist. if you have ide+Sata system. sda1 may very well not be hd0,003:28
LeeJunFanbyteme_: I'd reset the bios to defaults, see if you can find an update for the BIOS and upgrade that, if that doesn't work re-install with the /boot partition first on the hd, 100M should be more than enough03:31
kralphfdisk -l isnt returning anything03:32
dr_williskralph,  'system type commands normally always require the use of 'sudo''03:32
dr_willissudo fdisk -l03:32
LeeJunFanbyteme_: when the BIOS auto detects the HD either in the setup or during boto make sure it's reporting the right size too.03:32
dr_willisand thats a - l as in 'lamma' :)03:33
kralphyes, that helps :)03:33
dr_williswell -l as in List :)03:33
dr_willisyea.. peopel get so strung out about when to use sudo or not.. ive had to teach  my 'students' at work that basic idea.03:33
dr_willis'things that mess with the whole system' = need sudo. :)03:34
LeeJunFanbyteme_: thing is that the operating systems themselves don't use the BIOS to access the hd, they have their own drivers which can address larger address space, grub can't. So if the bios doens't allow access into the range where the kernel is stored grub can't load it.03:34
kralphya, im pretty newb on cmd line, but i do know about flags03:34
dr_willisUnlike windows vista and its silly UAE stuff.. that pops up a dialog every time you even look at somthing.. :P03:34
LeeJunFandr_willis: I thought that was for senile people, it was just a friendly reminder what they just asked their system to do - in case they forgot what they clicked on.03:35
byteme_ok gotcha03:36
dr_willisLeeJunFan,   guy at work brought in a new vista laptop.. so first thing i did was give him a pad of paper and tole him to keep track of how many times that UAC thing poped up in  his normal ussage... he gave up after about 200 times befor he even had the thing configured/his needed tools installed. :)03:36
kralphfdisk is calling that hd /dev/sda1 and shows it as a boot disk03:36
dr_willisTHEN i showed him how to disable it.03:36
dr_williswhat drive is the linux installed on then kralph ?03:37
o0Chris0odr_willis, one of the first thigns I did when I got windows vista a year ago03:37
LeeJunFanof course linux can be too accomodating, if you accidentally mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 and just as you hit enter you remember that's your 500GB hd, not the flash drive - oops. too late.03:37
kralphits calling it dev/sdc103:37
dr_willissdc1 'should' be  hd2,003:38
dr_willisyou could just uncomment the entrys and at the grub menu, se eif they work.. and if not change the hd0,0 to be some other #'s :)03:38
kralphim a little worried that grub will hang and ill be stuck real good03:39
dr_willisor use the grub command line shell  to  list the hard drives03:39
dr_williskralph,  it pays to learn how to use grub.03:39
dr_willisit rarely gets stuck. :) backup your menu.lst beofr changeing it.. and you can always boot a live cd, and restore it03:39
kralphah...03:39
dr_willisIf you know grub good enough. You can  make a system boot without a menu even. ;)03:40
kralphi like that03:40
dr_willis!fixgrub03:40
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:40
dr_willisthose url's are a good start to read.. and the grub manuals at the grub homepage.03:40
chris_____hrhr it is grub day isnt it:)03:40
dr_willis I will learn English03:40
dr_willisoops03:40
dr_willishttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/03:40
kralphLOL03:40
kralphyour english seems pretty good, man03:41
kralphyou even capitilize English03:41
kralphwowo03:41
chris_____it's capitAlize03:41
chris_____:)03:41
dr_willisGrub docs --> part  2 Naming convention03:42
kralphokie then, dr_willis ima try my new menu.lst and see what happends. ty for your help03:42
dr_willishttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Naming-convention03:42
kralphur a gentleman and a scholar03:42
dr_willisstart up a grub 'shell' with grub and ...03:43
dr_willis. This means that, for example, you only need to type03:43
dr_willis     root (03:43
dr_willisfollowed by a <TAB>, and GRUB will display the list of drives, partitions, or file names.03:43
dr_willis- Which is to say   - that grub has file name completion. :)03:43
kralphclever prog, that grub03:44
dr_willisIts almost its own Little OS :P03:45
dr_willisAnd if you never had to fight with the limits of LILO.. you dont realize how GOOD grub is. :)03:45
o0Chris0oall I know what it does is it boots my machine, and it works03:46
o0Chris0o:D03:46
kralphi used lilo to duel boot win 98 and redhat... about 10 yrs ago03:46
* o0Chris0o runs and hides03:47
kralphheres a silly question - what is the sudo cmd?03:47
o0Chris0osuper user admin03:47
dr_willis!sudo03:47
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)03:47
kralphlol03:48
kralphubottu is your bot friend, i take it03:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:48
dr_willistheres more to 'sudo' also., then 'the command you run to do rooty things'03:48
o0Chris0o!ubottu03:48
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:48
dr_willis!love03:49
ubottuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.03:49
o0Chris0oo.003:49
dr_williswow - every time i read http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html   - i learn somthing new03:49
kralphim stuck in grub. cant get the drives list03:49
dr_willisyou see the grub> prompt ?03:50
kralphy03:50
dr_willisroot (hd  <TABKEY>03:50
dr_willisor root(<tabkey>03:51
dr_willisI think i got a extra space in my first example03:51
dr_willisextra spaces are bad. :) dont do extra spaces03:51
dr_willisgrub> find /boot/grub/stage103:52
dr_willis           03:52
dr_williswill tell what drive it finds the grub boot files on also. :) in case you ever need to know.03:52
kralphfind /boot/grub/stage1 gives me (hd2,0)03:53
dr_willislooks like your linux install is on hd2 then.03:53
kralphic03:53
dr_willisthe menu.lst file most likely shows this as well.03:54
dr_willisso windows is most likely hd0,0  or hd1,0  or hd3,003:54
kralphhrm, menu.lst is showing (hd0,0)03:55
dr_willisYou can easially'edit' the grub menus at bootup time (hit e to edit) and change hd0,0 to hd1,0 if 0,0 dosent work.03:55
kralphthat is confusing03:55
kralphokie. im ready to try it. thanks again dr_willis03:55
dr_williscouldbe the bios is set to boot that hd first..  Ive seen some bios 'switch' drives around03:55
dr_willisie: whatever sata disk it boots.. becomes hd0,003:56
dr_williswhich confused me on one machine.. for part of a day. :)03:56
dr_willisIf windows and linux are each on theor own hard drives.. you could use the bios to boot a specific hd. :)03:57
dr_willismy current machine lets me hit F11 at boot. and pick what HD to boot. I dont even need a windows entry in the grub menus03:57
dr_willisand i dont need grub on the windows drives mbr.03:57
dr_willisWell Good luck. Its bed time for me.03:57
mr---t-hey _204:25
_2 04:25
o0Chris0owhen I open a new tab in firefox 3.0 how do I make it go to my homepage instead of an empty window04:27
Ashexanyone have tips for getting kubuntu to take advantage of extra ram?04:32
mn_o0chris0o04:32
mr---t-don't know if you can automatically, just open the tab and click your home icon04:32
mn_o0chris0o: You go to edit > settings > and uncheck blank page and check use homepage and type in your home page04:33
o0Chris0oyeahty04:33
mn_o0chris0o: did you do it?04:35
o0Chris0oyeah...but its already selected04:36
o0Chris0odon't have the option to open homepage in new tab04:36
mn_oh, no04:36
o0Chris0overy odd04:37
mn_So you want a blank page and your home page on start up?04:37
o0Chris0ono, I want to be able to open a new tab and have it load the homepage a new tab is opened04:38
mn_oh, hrmm.  let me look04:38
o0Chris0ok04:39
mn_hmm, idk but Ill look for something04:39
o0Chris0ook04:40
mr---t-like i said it's going to take two clicks04:40
mn_mr---t- is probably right04:40
o0Chris0overy very simple feature..go figure04:41
o0Chris0owhy would it be different in 3.0 then 2.0, in 2.0 you were able too04:41
mr---t-maybe ask in #firefox04:42
mr---t-they might know better than I04:42
o0Chris0oty04:43
o0Chris0oerr how do I open another server window in konversation04:46
geekuse quick connect04:47
geekits under 'file'04:48
Dragnslcro0Chris0o- Tab Mix Plus has the option to open your home page in new tabs04:49
mr---t-cool add on04:53
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mn_I just downloaded MenuetOS and want to make a disk of it and I have the .img but what do I do with it?05:43
favromn_: you'll need to convert that to iso afaik05:44
mn_how?05:45
drhe|sktis there anyway to change the dot pitch? something seems different with this display compared to windows.05:45
drhe|sktlike there is pixel blending going on everywhere.05:45
drhe|skti want to be able to see the pixels that make up charactor.05:46
drhe|sktnot blended pixels.05:46
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favromn_: http://www.mopedia.co.uk/2008/02/convert-img-to-iso-in-ubuntu.html05:50
favrodrhe|skt: see if this helps05:51
favro!fixres | drhe|skt05:52
ubottudrhe|skt: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:52
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mn_favro: it's saying error05:55
favromn_: ok I'll bite - what prog and what command gives the error?05:56
favroccd2iso?05:56
mn_yes05:57
mn_Error:  Cannot open source file for reading05:57
favroand what command did you use?05:57
mn_sudo ccd2iso file.img file.iso05:57
surgydoes kubuntu 8.04.1 support sli via nvidia cards? and does it support multi monitors?05:58
favromn_: mn_ is the file in your home folder?05:58
mn_desktop05:58
mn_that's a problem then?05:58
favromn_: try it without sudo05:58
favromn_: where it is is ok05:59
mn_same thing happens05:59
favromn_: I don't know how to check a img file - are there md5 checksums on the site the img came from?06:00
mn_i don't know.  site: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=menuet&filename=M32-085.ZIP&use_mirror=superb-east06:01
favromn_: having a quick google06:01
mn_k06:01
emilsedghcould someone paste /etc/init.d/kdm file for me ?06:04
favromn_: when you open konsole type   cd ./Desktop   then try it06:05
Nix3r how to show ''downloaded' tab in ktorrent?06:06
mn_Unrecognized sector mode (0) at sector 0!06:07
surgydoes kubuntu 8.04.1 support sli via nvidia cards? and does it support multi monitors?06:07
favromn_: so it found it then06:08
mn_so what now?06:10
favromn_: mn_ I no nothing about that app - sounds like it isn't in good shape - you need to find how to check it06:11
favroand that link was for a zip file06:11
mn_yes, I unpacked it and it contained a .img06:11
favromn_: mn_ I no nothing about that app - sounds like it isn't in good shape - you need to find how to check it06:12
Nix3rhow to show '' downloaded'' tab in ktorrent ?06:12
mr---t-good nite all06:21
mixed1234which file you have to edit to enable the scroll wheel on your mousie??06:26
CoJaBo-EeeIs there a way to set the default icon for a file type?06:29
Darkrift2yes, but im not sure how06:30
CoJaBo-Eeemixed1234: Theres a control panel in system settings under keyboard & mouse06:32
Nix3rhow to show '' downloaded'' tab in ktorrent ? the tab that shows all the downloaded things.06:36
surgyim having problems compiling a program can someone help me? this is my output http://pastebin.com/m41871d2406:46
Darkrift2surgy, might get more help in #linux since its probably not kubuntu related and that channel is bigger06:47
Darkrift2but06:47
surgyok thank you06:47
Darkrift2i think i know your problem06:47
surgy?06:47
Darkrift2you need to install build-essentials (i think thats the name)06:47
Darkrift2to make your c compile able to make binaries06:47
surgy! build-essentials06:49
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)06:49
Darkrift2also make sure yo have libc6-dev-i386 installed, that seems to cause that error sometimes06:49
Darkrift2that is if you arent on a 64b os06:50
surgyim running 64 bit version and when i sudo apt-cache search build-essentials it doesnt show any results06:50
favroit's build-essential06:50
favrono s on the end06:50
Darkrift2k06:51
favro!info build-essential06:51
ubottubuild-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB06:51
surgythank you06:51
Darkrift2erm, i dont think you can compile wine on 64b06:51
favro!info build-essentials06:51
ubottuPackage build-essentials does not exist in hardy06:51
Darkrift2wine is 32b06:51
surgywell im getting the same error06:52
surgyconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables06:53
Darkrift2do which make06:53
Darkrift2and which gcc06:53
Darkrift2make sure both are installed06:53
surgyboth are there06:54
Darkrift2i still think its the 64b thing06:54
Darkrift2someone told me once that if i chose 64b i couldnt use wine because it wouldnt compile06:54
Darkrift2and i see stuff on google about your error and 64b wine06:55
surgysudo apt-get build-dep wine :)06:56
surgyseams to be installing 225mb of deps06:58
Darkrift2lol06:59
surgythat could be the problem right? lol07:01
surgychecking for -lfreetype... not found07:06
surgyi tryed sudo apt-get install libfreetyp6-dev and it says i have the newest version...07:06
surgycan someone help me plz?07:15
CoJaBo-EeeAnyone happen to know how to change the default icon for a file type in KDE 4.1?07:16
deamoonhi ppl07:34
deamoonhow can i delete program?07:34
deamooni got firestarter07:34
GWillakerssudo apt-get remove firestarter07:35
deamoonty07:36
GWillakersnp07:36
ForgeAusif you want to remove the configuration for it too, you use sudo apt-get purge firestarter07:37
deamoonok07:37
deamoonty07:38
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deamoonhow to check program location?07:43
deamooncommand wereis or something07:43
deamoon?07:43
GWillakerswhich program_name07:43
deamoonamule07:44
GWillakerswhich amule07:44
deamooni dont know where it saves files07:44
deamoon:D07:44
GWillakersprobably /home/your_login/.amule/something/something07:44
deamoonye07:45
deamooni found it07:45
deamoonty07:45
GWillakersnp07:45
jkuboschekcan anybody help me in figuring out my VLC problem? it starts playing the movie and immediately closes07:54
favrothat's normally a codec thing mostly - what's the file type?07:55
jkuboschekfavro: avi. its a divx codec i believe07:56
jkuboschekfavro: thing is, kaffeine plays some of the movies just fine07:56
favrothat should be ok - I use vlc for that07:56
surgyis there a 32 bit compatibility package i can get?07:57
jkuboschekfavro: yeah...i've got some output of error messages though. one sec07:57
favroyeh I have vlc, xine and mplayer so I can play all of my movies07:57
favrok07:57
jkuboschekfavro: have a look at this http://pastebin.com/d6623044e07:58
favrosurgy: I don't think so - most stay away from the 64bit os 'cause of program incomp[atibility07:58
favrojkuboschek: insufficient resources for operation makes me wonder about the memory available07:59
surgy!kubuntu usb08:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu usb08:00
surgyhow do i install kubuntu on a usb disk again?08:00
favro!usb08:00
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent08:00
CoJaBo-EeeIs it possible to change the default icon for a file type in KDE 4.1?08:03
favroCoJaBo: you'll have to ask in #kubuntu-kde4 for that08:05
favro!kde408:05
ubottuKDE 4.1.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde408:05
surgyok08:14
surgyso unetbootin is supposed to be an executable file..... i downloaded it and tried to execute it using the ./ but nothing.....08:15
surgyduh chmod... i feal stupid08:16
Darkrift2make sure its executable08:16
Darkrift2lol08:16
Darkrift2yeah..... i do that often08:17
surgylol08:17
emersonhello everybody I have I just had install kubuntu but I have a problem with my sound I have but I can't put up or down, anybody else how know how to fixed please pass the information on the pastebin08:18
favroemerson: type   alsamixer   in konsole and make sure all are turned up08:23
surgy!format08:26
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QTParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap08:26
emersonfavro: well it's but still doesn't work08:32
favroemerson: same error?08:33
surgyusb08:34
surgy!usb08:34
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent08:34
emersonfavro: yep any quick guide in the net the all know to solve those issues.08:35
emersonfavro: you know I mean.08:35
favroemerson: what's the sound card - aplay -l   in konsole will tell08:35
emersonintel one.08:37
favroemerson: which one it is is important08:38
emersonfavro: 82801DB-ICHH, I have a sound but the icon for the volume do not appear and I can't play any media that't problem.08:40
emersonfavro: I went to medibuntu but didn't work.08:41
favroemerson: kubuntu-restricted-extras will get you the codecs and right click the panel and select add to and add the sound mixer08:42
favro!info kubuntu-restricted-extras08:42
ubottukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 15.2 (hardy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB08:42
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qwerty121hello all! can someone give me a list of packages included in kubuntu dvd?09:16
_LiNuX_i have sownload and install Downloader for X but when i put the rapidshare download links then nothing happen....Is any other program like jdownloader UsDowloader..?09:16
qwerty121_LiNuX_: rapidshare won't work09:16
qwerty121_LiNuX_: do you have a premium a/c?09:17
_LiNuX_no09:17
_LiNuX_Why you can download from rapidshare with a download manager09:18
qwerty121_LiNuX_: then it won't. RS only supports download managers of those who have premium a/c...09:18
qwerty121_LiNuX_: buy yourself one... :P09:19
_LiNuX_In my windows i have Jdownloader and everything it is ok09:19
_LiNuX_i dont meen to download all files at once09:19
qwerty121_LiNuX_: O_O is that so?09:20
zenithnet1hmm..09:20
qwerty121i mean jdownloader working with RS?09:20
_LiNuX_Yes09:20
* qwerty121 googles for jdownloader09:20
_LiNuX_read their http://rapidshare.com/news.html09:21
_LiNuX_i don't believe  that no one has a download manager for linux09:22
qwerty121_LiNuX_: they definitely have but they won't support RS09:23
The-Compiler_LiNuX_: You can use jDownloader on Linux ;)09:23
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Nece228so can you please release two releases - kubuntu with kde 4.1 (by default) and kubuntu with kde 3.5?09:25
Nece228just like kubuntu 8.04 had kubuntu kde4 and kubuntu09:25
Nece228because i dont wanna say goodbye to kde 3.5 - still it has much more features and its more beautiful to me09:26
Nece228:)09:26
The-Compilerqwerty121: Its a download-manager which is made for RS (and other filehosters), via scripts and even OCR to read the captchas or features like wait for happy hour09:27
_LiNuX_The-Compiler  How?09:27
The-Compiler_LiNuX_: just download it, extract it somewhere and open the .sh-File (jdownloader.sh i think)09:28
_LiNuX_ok thanks a lot09:28
_LiNuX_:)09:28
qwerty121The-Compiler: thanks. did n't know about it...09:31
qwerty121can someone give a list of packages included in kubuntu dvd?09:32
djdarkmanhello, can someone tell me what this means: pkg_check_modules(GTK gtk+-2.0>=2.6) ?09:39
qwerty121none? *sigh*09:39
djdarkmanI can't comple KGtk, because it says ** ERROR      : Could not locate Gtk2 headers, Gtk2 LD_PRELOAD library will not be built., but I have it installed09:40
djdarkman(It's done with cmaker)09:40
favroyou need the -dev packages for GTK gtk+-2.0>=2.609:41
djdarkmanyeah favro but what's it called?09:42
favrohehe I dunno I'll have a quick search :)09:43
djdarkmanlibgtk2.0-dev is not the answere09:44
favrodjdarkman: libgtk2.0-dev id the only one I can find...09:54
favros/id/is/09:54
Guest852watch out for linux users09:54
Guest852they think they are God09:55
Guest852but only god is god09:55
favro!ot09:55
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:55
Guest852!priter09:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about priter09:55
Guest852!printer09:55
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:55
Guest852!cups09:55
Guest852!netsplit09:55
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:55
jussi01!botabuse09:55
ubottuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.09:55
snyh!cpus09:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cpus09:56
snyh>_< what's the ubottu?09:56
snyha robot?09:57
jussi01!bo09:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bo09:57
jussi01!bot09:57
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:57
favro!bot > snyh09:57
ubottusnyh, please see my private message09:57
snyhuh, thanks09:58
snyh!bot > favro09:58
ubottufavro, please see my private message09:58
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Lupus-SLE'lo, I've got what's somewhat of a small annoyance... on boot udev complains it can't find the user group vboxusers - this group doesn't exist anymire because I removed vmware, how do I get udev to stop nagging me?10:42
frybyeHi - for some reason when I click on a shell script (*.sh) in Dolphin for instance it trys to start it with wine? How can I get it to just run the script??10:46
favrofrybye: right click the file and select   open with10:47
Lupus-SLEfrybye: Run it in konsole10:47
frybyeI know how to chae the open with - but what do I select there.. it dosent need to open with anything - just "run"10:47
Lupus-SLEsh10:47
Lupus-SLEAlso make sure it's chmod'd to +x10:47
frybyeLupus - shure I can do that but why need to ...10:47
favroLupus-SLE: the kernel module for vbox is still in use it seems10:47
frybyeyou mean i need somehow to set open with to open with "sh" - is that an appl?10:48
favrofrybye: open it with /bin/bash - you'll have to browse to it10:48
favroopen with - browse - /bin/bash10:48
Lupus-SLEfavro: I don't think it is, at least it isn't showing up in lsmod10:48
Lupus-SLEI'm assuming it's called vbox though... do you know what it's called?10:49
frybyehang on I will have a look...10:49
favroLupus-SLE: I was thinking of the iso you need to install to make vbox work better - the name escapes me atm - look in /etc/modules10:50
frybyeit will let me open with "known applications" "browse" is not one of them.. sorry I am a relative noob.. bit list here..10:50
frybyeok - i follow you now...10:51
creamdawgjoin #meat10:51
Lupus-SLEfavro: No such place exists10:51
frybyethanks favro and others...10:52
frybyesorry I was a bit slow on this one...10:52
favroLupus-SLE: /etc/module.d maybe10:53
frybyeeh - how can I fix so that it remembers this openwith setting???10:53
frybyei am in kde4.110:53
Lupus-SLEmodprobe.d or modutils10:53
Lupus-SLEfavro: I've blacklisted it10:55
Lupus-SLEI think10:55
favrowhere was it ? _ I'm on dapper atm10:55
Lupus-SLEI'll see if it works, if not I'll get the actual error message10:55
favrok10:55
o0Chris0ohow would I install a srce package from kde-apps.orge?11:05
o0Chris0oits a deb file11:06
favroo0Chris0o: dpkg -i "debfile"  is the way - but it might have dependency issues11:07
Lupus-SLERight... I've got the message11:07
favrok11:08
Lupus-SLEudevd[1322]: lookup_group: Specified group 'vboxusers' unknown11:08
o0Chris0ofavro: alright, what is the name of the packge for screensavers in depository?11:08
favroLupus-SLE: the good folk in #vbox might have a  clue on that11:09
favro!screensaver11:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about screensaver11:09
favrosame here :)11:09
o0Chris0oheh11:10
favroo0Chris0o: kscreensaver11:10
favro!info kscreensaver11:11
o0Chris0oty11:11
ubottukscreensaver (source: kdeartwork): additional screen savers released with KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 818 kB, installed size 1952 kB11:11
favro!find screensaver11:11
ubottuFound: gnome-screensaver, kscreensaver, libxcb-screensaver0, libxcb-screensaver0-dbg, libxcb-screensaver0-dev (and 14 others)11:11
favroo0Chris0o: you're deb file might not have dep issues as well :)11:13
Linux_GaloreI used to know how to do this but I have forgoten how, how to you set Konqueror as the default file browser11:14
Linux_Galores/to/do/11:14
favro!gutsy11:15
ubottuGutsy - Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 - Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour11:15
Linux_GaloreIm googling it and for some reason Om comming up dry11:15
favro!konqueror11:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about konqueror11:15
Lupus-SLELinux_Galore: File associations > folders and shit > something11:15
Lupus-SLEInnode > directory11:16
Lupus-SLEChange to konqueror11:16
Lupus-SLEBob's your uncle11:16
Linux_Galoreyeah I know its under file associations but what one was it that needed to be changed ?11:17
stdin!dolphin11:17
ubottuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.11:17
stdin^ Linux_Galore11:17
The_ManU_212hi i made a update with adept-manager (icon in kicker) it crashed with sig11 after installing all before getting the message that all was installed sucessfully (there is a small progress abr, it loads  often a window when there is a new kubuntu version to upgrade), there it crashed11:17
The_ManU_212is this bad?11:17
The_ManU_212how to find out if the system is ok?11:18
Linux_Galoreaah thanks, that is so bloody annoying11:18
Linux_Galoregod I hate dolphin11:18
favroI removed it ..11:18
Farghlinux-galore, install krusader11:19
Linux_GaloreI cant stand krusader either11:20
Linux_Galorethats what happens when you use KDE from the first release to now heh11:20
Farghwhat wrong with it ?11:20
Linux_GaloreFargh: its not what i want, konqueror is what I want11:20
Linux_GaloreKonqueror for me is like a nice pair of well worn shoes11:21
favroThe_ManU_212: in konsole run   sudo apt-get -f install   and look for errors11:21
Farghim reverting from windows where i was familiar with total commander.  so krusader was obvious11:21
The_ManU_212favo 0 to install 0 to remove, 0 to upgrade11:23
favroThe_ManU_212: seems it might be ok - as another check you could run   sudo dpkg --configure -a   and look for errors11:24
The_ManU_212favro: new prompt11:26
favroThe_ManU_212: no worries then I would think :)11:27
The_ManU_212ok thx11:28
favrogood luck :)11:28
o0Chris0oweird why am I being asked for a user name and password to log on to a drive on another computer in my home network?11:33
ubuntu_format11:37
ubuntu_!format11:37
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QTParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap11:37
favroo0Chris0o: it will be something in smb.conf11:38
o0Chris0ohmm ok11:38
matt__change user to share possibly11:39
o0Chris0ohow come my music album art isn't apart of the mp3 now? its all seperate files11:39
ubuntu_i am in trouble11:40
ubuntu_installed ubuntu yesterday11:41
ubuntu_this morning i installed kubuntu from windows11:41
ubuntu_then i tryend to format it all from windows11:41
ubuntu_and now the grub file is gone and nothing starts but the live cd11:41
Linux_Galorejust installed Kubuntu on a HP DV5 1054 laptop, so far everything works, webcam,bluetooth keyboard etc11:41
Linux_Galorenot sure about wifi11:41
ubuntu_!gparted11:42
ubottugparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php11:42
phar0zSuddenly all my apps have an ugly GTK look, and my Control Center (kcontrol) --> Appearance & Themes --> GTK Styles and Fonts seems to be disappeared ...11:43
jussi01!grub | ubuntu_11:43
ubottuubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:43
phar0zThough I did not remove gtk-qt-engine11:44
snyh!gui11:45
ubottuThe graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)11:45
herve_salut à tous11:49
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jussi01!fr | Funnix11:52
ubottuFunnix: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr11:52
phar0z!nl | Funnix11:52
ubottuFunnix: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl11:52
JampiterHi11:53
JampiterAnyone know how to add a repository to synaptic or apt-get?11:53
favro!repo > Jampiter11:59
ubottuJampiter, please see my private message12:00
JampiterGreat, thanks :)12:00
BierSchaumhttp://www.pennergame.de/change_please/2199735/12:00
Tm_TBierSchaum: no spamming12:01
BierSchaumhttp://www.pennergame.de/change_please/2199735/12:02
_LiNuX_hi again i give my external HDD to my friend i don't want to have access in one folder how can do that?12:07
faileas_LiNuX_: best way is to encrypt the folder somehow... either compress it with a password or pop it into a truecrypt vault i suppose?12:08
faileaspermissions won't work since he can change the permissions from his system12:08
_LiNuX_...12:09
_LiNuX_is any programm that can do that?12:10
_LiNuX_encrypt12:10
faileastruecrypt?12:10
sTratovariuZhi guys when i watch a videoclip in streaming for example on megavideo, it's a bit flattened, my friends can watch the same clip in good quality, what can be my prob? thx12:10
sTratovariuZi run hardy and use ff312:11
_LiNuX_LUKS is a good program for ecryption?12:12
manuel__scusate sono nuovo 1 domanda...per la configurazione di kubuntu (del tipo plugin ecc ecc) si tiene buona la guida di ubuntu???12:20
faileas!it12:20
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)12:21
faileaswell it looks like italian to me >_>12:21
manuel__ok thanks12:21
The_ManU_212favro it doesnt matter if i try first apt-get install -f and then dpkg --configure -a?12:27
favroThe_ManU_212: packages are installed then dpkg'ed so that is the right order - like seveas said12:28
favroThe_ManU_212: still having trouble?12:30
The_ManU_212favro so first apt-get install -f, then dpkg --configure -a and then apt-get dist-upgrade?12:30
favroThe_ManU_212: are you on hardy now?12:30
favro!upgrade12:30
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:30
The_ManU_212favro no but i wanted to proof if i was wrong because Sevaes wrote first the dpkg thing and then the apt get and so i wanted to know if it is it a problem to check if all is fine, i amde FIRST the install -f thing then dpkg12:31
The_ManU_212favro: yep12:31
favroThe_ManU_212: and you want to try the alpha ubuntu called intrepid?12:32
The_ManU_212favro no12:32
favroThe_ManU_212: you can run those commands in any order - there is only a diff when new things are installed - so good practice is  apt-get install -f, then dpkg --configure -a12:33
favroThe_ManU_212: then why are you trying the dist-upgrade? - there's nothing to upgrade to12:34
The_ManU_212favro ok so i did and i got a new prompt (dpkg) and all values were zero in apt-get install -f, so it should be fine12:34
Linux_Galorebuger!!, no Intel 5100 Wifi support in hardy and it doesnt look like Intrepid will have it either, and yes Intel have released a driver12:35
ubuntui need a program to format my harddrive12:35
ubuntui am on a live cd12:35
ubuntu!format12:35
favro!partition12:35
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QTParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap12:35
dr_willisubuntu gparted tool can format/repartion drives.12:35
The_ManU_212favro it was only because of what Seveas said12:35
favroubuntu: there are partitioners in the menu12:35
The_ManU_212[12:23] <Seveas> sudo dpkg --configure -a12:35
The_ManU_212[12:23] <Seveas> sudo apt-get -f install12:35
The_ManU_212[12:23] <Seveas> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:35
dr_willisubuntu or the command line tools.. depening on EXACTLY what you are wanting to do12:36
ubuntui already installed gpartiion but it does not open12:36
The_ManU_212and i wasnt sure with the 1. and 2. point and i also did dist-upgrade12:36
favroThe_ManU_212: yep it should all be fine :)12:36
The_ManU_212but tehre was nothing to upgrade and i want to sty with hardy12:36
favroThe_ManU_212: you can enjoy it now then :)12:37
ubuntuPartition Editor is not opening!!12:37
ubuntusomething is wrong with my grub12:37
The_ManU_212favro ok cool thx u, love the friendly ubuntu support :)12:37
ubuntualready tried the ubuntu help files did not work12:37
The_ManU_212btw do you know about smart values?12:37
favronope...12:38
The_ManU_212favro: do you know where i can ask its a question about some special values12:39
dr_willisubuntu grub boot loader is one issue.. formating filesystems/repartitioning is a very different issue. You Might want to clarify exactly what the problem is.12:39
ubuntuok here we go12:39
ubuntui installed ubuntu yesterday from the live cd12:39
ubuntuthen i tried to change it to kde but it behaved weird so i shut the pc down, restarted in windows an from there i downloaded kubuntu12:40
favroThe_ManU_212: are you using a programming language?12:40
ubuntuwhen i had burn the cd, a message came up telling me i could install kubuntu as a program in windows so i did,12:40
ubuntuthen it restarted and asked me if i wnated to start in windows or in ubuntu, i said windows12:40
The_ManU_212favro in which way? i get the values with smartmontools, the health staus itself is ok, but some special values are high, i googled but found no answer12:40
ubuntuthen a new message came up asking me if i wanted to start windows or kubuntu12:41
ubuntui took windows again12:41
favroThe_ManU_212: hard disk smarts - maybe in #hardware12:41
ubuntuit started well, then i check the drives and ubuntu was installed in a separate partition of the drive12:41
ubuntukubuntu was installed inside my windows partition12:41
The_ManU_212favro thx :)12:42
favronp12:42
ubuntuso i decided to erase both partitioning them from windows and then do a clean install of kubuntu in a separate partition12:42
ubuntubut then hell started, it said something wnet wrong and that i had to restart so i did, but then this message came up "grub error 17" and nothing happens12:42
azarelhello12:43
ubuntuthat was the long version of why i want to format my drives, coz my grub is working weird12:43
dr_willisubuntu  you want to totally whipe out the whole hard - eraseing it competely? Loseing both windows and linux?12:44
azarelI have a question ... how can i install audio and video codecs in KDE4.1.1 ?12:44
ubuntui got 2 drives, the one with windows in it is just ntfs windows nothing else in it12:45
ubuntui want to clean those with linux in it12:45
favroazarel: you'll have to go to #kubuntu-kde4 for that12:45
azarelok i try there tnx12:46
dr_willisubuntu - 'clean' as in delete the linux partitions?12:46
dr_willisubuntu leaving windows alone?12:46
ubuntuby the moment yes12:47
dr_willisMost likely gparted on the live cd  can do that. BUT you will need to unmount the linux partitions  (from the gparted menus) if they are mounted - to change them around.12:48
dr_willisIf you wish to install ubuntu - you do NOT need to delete them beforhand. YOu can tell the installer to install to them.12:48
ubuntui tried a minut ago to reinstall kubuntu, and when it was at 98 % it said something was wrong with the grub and that it was a fatal error12:48
dr_willisYou want the 2nd hd to be all linux?12:48
ubuntubut the installer did not work12:48
dr_willisGrub issue is proberly not related to 'formating the hard drives' at all.12:49
ubuntui thought so too, and i tried to fix the grub, but that did not work either12:49
ubuntuwhen i write in the console to open the grub file it says there is none12:49
dr_willisdo you even get a grub menu at all?12:50
ubuntuno i do not12:50
ubuntuthe pc starts, it check the drives and then it says loading grub 1.512:50
ubuntuerror 17 and it stays there forever12:50
dr_willisGrub error 17 - is  discussed here  --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44294512:52
dr_willisseems to be LBA related.. We been seeing a lot of LBA related issues in here over the last few days12:52
JampiterHi12:52
JampiterHow do I install KDE4, MAKING SURE it's 4.1?12:53
JampiterI try the instructions on the website and it installs 4.0, not 4.1.112:53
jussi01Jampiter: jump over to #kubuntu-kde4 and read the link in the topic12:53
JampiterI tried that, It installs 4.012:53
dr_willisJampiter,  enable the ppa repos. in the topic/url  of #kubuntu-kde4 says12:53
dr_willisive instaled kde4.1 from those ppa repos.12:54
jussi01Jampiter: but please ask further questions in #kubuntu-kde412:54
JampiterOk12:54
o0Chris0o:D12:56
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o0Chris0omy fps on my FPS game is low compared to windows, I have an nvidia 8600gt12:58
dr_williswhat game. :)12:59
o0Chris0oUrban Terror :)12:59
o0Chris0oa mod, free game, based off quake 312:59
dr_willisEgads i suck at that game. :)12:59
dr_willisI sit there shooting someone.. they run up and kill me....12:59
dr_willis:)12:59
o0Chris0oheh :) yeah I was like that too12:59
dr_willisIve never noticed any FPS differances. - could be due to differances in nvidia drivers i guess13:00
dr_willisI got an 8800gtsxxx13:00
o0Chris0oyeah, I think so too, cool13:00
o0Chris0oI want to get the new 940013:00
dr_willisI dont even need the power of this 880013:00
dr_willislast thingi want is a louder/hotter video card. :P13:01
jussi01!ot13:02
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!13:02
o0Chris0olol13:05
o0Chris0osorry ubottu bot maker :D13:05
o0Chris0olol13:05
EeyoreHi, how do I change what is done when I attach a camera/USB-device (e.g. "open in new window", "import photos is digikam", etc.)13:06
dvoidis there any repo or webpage where i can get precompiled kde4 plasmoids for kubuntu 8.04?13:25
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jussi01dvoid: try asking in #kubuntu-kde413:29
dvoidoh didt know about that channel ;)13:33
DexterFhi13:35
DexterFneed to change the password on a box, no live cd or such available. can I do the "init=/bin/bash" thing on kubuntu like with any other distro and then run passwd <user>?13:36
dr_willisI think that will work DexterF13:36
dr_willisor use the singleuser mode/option at the end.13:36
dr_willisthe init=/bin/bash is a little hardcore13:36
ganastasiouhello everyone13:37
DexterFwont the single user mode ask for the passwd, too?13:37
dr_willisi though it went to root.13:38
dr_willisIve  not used it in months. i dont rember13:38
DexterFhm, well, ill check that out, thanks.13:38
dr_willisI never 'not have a live cd' :)13:38
favroit doesn't unless you've set a root password13:38
DexterFnother thing: pulled libdvdcss from medibuntu, kaffeine still complains "disc encrypted cant play blah". smplayer plays it alright. how comm kaffeine won't use the lib?13:39
dr_willisbut that voids the warrenty. :)13:39
DexterFfavro: good13:39
DexterFdr_willis: ah, should have provided her with a disc... pulled a friend over from the evil MS empire :) still some edges to smooth13:40
dr_willisI got a USB thumbdrive set up with netbootin :) so i can boot/install from it now13:40
s0101is there anyway to mount my sony ericsson K530 with ubuntu when i plug in the cable nothing hapends ut the phone says that it is connected13:40
DexterFs0101: in order to do what? use it as a modem, or usb mass storage, syncing...?13:41
dr_willison some phones you must select USB mode  to get them seen as a usb storage gizmo13:41
DexterFlike on my w810i for example. syncing here only via bluetooth, not by cable. haven't tried that yet tho.13:42
s0101i want to use mas storage13:47
s0101i need to add a java aplication13:48
DexterFs0101: does the phone ask you which mode to enter when plugging the cable?13:48
s0101i have chosen usb mode of course13:48
s0101i have 2 sony ericsson none of them work13:49
s0101after i chose usb it says the cable is pluged pls do not remove erc13:50
s0101etc13:50
DexterFs0101: so KDE doesn't ask you "found this and that, what do you wanna do"? on a terminal, check "sudo blkid" and see if something new is there that's not your hard disk.13:50
DexterFtry lsusb, too, see if your phone appears in there.13:51
s0101kde dont ask anything i know it has before i changed ubuntu to hardy heron and in terminal it says13:53
s0101/dev/sda1: UUID="c8d80e1a-ec2c-40ca-8a5e-52aa55e5d7c8" TYPE="ext3"13:53
s0101/dev/sda5: TYPE="swap" UUID="09af47e2-b52f-41cd-a0ed-7f7eb530e439"13:53
s0101when i use the 2nd comand it says13:54
s0101Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:000013:54
s0101Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:000013:54
s0101Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000013:54
s0101Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c510 Logitech, Inc.13:54
s0101Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000013:54
s0101Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000013:54
jussi01!paste13:54
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:54
s0101sry13:54
s0101i dont have a clue13:56
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s0101why cant ubuntu connect with a mobile phone ?14:00
sTratovariuZhi guys when i watch a videoclip in streaming for example on megavideo, it's a bit flattened, my friends can watch the same clip in good quality, what can be my prob? thx14:04
sTratovariuZi run hardy and use ff314:04
* dr_willis wonders what 'flattened' means14:05
dr_willismegavideo.com here seems to be jsut 'dating web site ads'14:06
sTratovariuZhttp://www.thefreedictionary.com/flattened14:06
dr_willisi cant even et anything to play - under windows/firefox14:07
sTratovariuZdr_willis: the figures are a bit flat14:07
dr_willisYou mean to say the  ratio of the videos are   shortened vertically over what they should be  - making people look fat and so forth?14:08
sTratovariuZyes but horizontally14:08
sTratovariuZso people look thiner than they are14:08
sTratovariuZwhat could that be?14:09
dr_willisGiven that i cant even get a single video to play on their site.. and they are using flash.. I would guess some flash quirk14:09
dr_willishttp://www.megavideo.com/?v=WG346RZT14:10
sTratovariuZalright that's what i thought but i unistall and re-install it from the repos many times... nothing14:10
sTratovariuZit's always "flattened" :D14:10
dr_willisUninstall/Reinstalling is a 'windows last ditch attempt to fix things'  method. that RARELY if ever fix's things under linux14:11
sTratovariuZthis is what someone here suggested...14:11
sTratovariuZanyway the link you gave me works well and the ratio is fine14:11
dr_willisvideos look fine here for me also.14:12
dr_williscompareing identical videos on linux and windows box's14:12
* dr_willis lerned to click the Play button in the Middle of the video.. to play the things...14:12
sTratovariuZi'll give you a link in one sec14:12
dr_willisthat site has wayy to many 'find a date in your area' ads.....14:13
Gladylol14:13
sTratovariuZyes well they have to get some money out of ads14:13
dr_willisThey aint gettting much $$ from me.14:14
sTratovariuZneither from me though :D14:14
dr_willisof course Im not their target audiance.14:14
dr_willismarried, 40,  i dont date a lot. :)14:14
Gladyimagine married 4514:15
dr_willisat least those old X-10.com ads that flooded the internet years ago.. were SOMTHING i actually could use/want :)14:15
dr_willisof course with my adblocker stuff.. i dont see a lot of banner ads these days14:15
sTratovariuZim trying to access the clip i want but its taking ages14:16
Gladywhat clip is that14:17
Gladymaybe I can help14:17
Gladybe specific14:17
Gladyit is very general stuff this morning14:17
clyrradany of you running the latest version of Pidgin?  If so were you able to get it as a .deb package or did you have to build it from source?14:18
sTratovariuZGlady: i'm trying to open a particular clip so i can copy its link here and dr_willis can open it, watch and tell me if its video clip's ratio aspect is the same as mine, thus i don't have a prob, if he sees it better, ivegot a prob14:18
sTratovariuZ*his video clip's ratio aspect14:19
Gladywhat is a video clip's ratio aspect14:20
sTratovariuZit's shortened horizontally14:22
sTratovariuZlook http://www.megavideo.com/?v=Q9L16NQ014:22
sTratovariuZi couldn't open the one i wanted so here's another one that seems the same14:22
sTratovariuZdr_willis: http://www.megavideo.com/?v=Q9L16NQ014:23
Gladyit is party poker14:23
sTratovariuZdo you guys see it shortened horizontally also or not?14:23
Gladygambling online14:23
sTratovariuZparty poker ?? o.O14:23
Gladyr u guys iatlians14:24
Gladymammaia14:24
sTratovariuZwhat u talkin about? o.O14:24
sTratovariuZanyway, if you can help i appreciate it if you can't please stop bothering14:25
dr_willisits the video file dude14:25
sTratovariuZah alright14:25
sTratovariuZso i don't have a prob14:26
sTratovariuZit's just the video itself that it's not good quality14:26
sTratovariuZright?14:26
sTratovariuZand what about the horizontal lines during the video? do you see them also?14:26
Gladydont click on that link14:28
Gladyjesus14:28
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tiger0007всем привет скажите кто нить делал настройку ресивера prof dvbs 1100 usb под kubuntu 8.04?14:51
Tm_T!ru | tiger000714:51
ubottutiger0007: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke14:51
univaldohello14:52
o0Chris0ohaving problems getting teamspeak to work on my website14:53
o0Chris0oheadset14:53
o0Chris0oI try testing my mic, but I don't get anything14:53
Gladyok14:57
Gladysound is alright here14:57
Gladythats why15:02
Gladyhand by hand15:03
tessy'a qq'un ?15:09
ccoffeyI have some KDE4 questions, should i ask here, or in a KDE4 channel?15:10
tessthiink it's egal, but there doesn't seem to be many peaple by there, and i'm a new in kubuntu15:12
astrommeThere is a #kubuntu-kde4 channel for kde4 issues in kubuntu. There is also a #kde for general kde3/kde4 things15:17
astrommeccoffey: ^^ above was for you15:17
ccoffeyastromme: cool, what is was looking for15:17
o0Chris0ohaving some problems setting up my usb headset for teamspeak15:20
lnxhallo15:27
lnxwo bin ich?15:27
ign0ramus!de | lnx15:27
ubottulnx: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:27
lnxich will windows installieren, geht aber nich :/15:27
fsdfhello15:27
lnxhello15:27
fsdfyou server rfi cannel15:27
fsdf:S15:27
o0Chris0o!xorg15:29
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto15:29
XVampireXIs 64bit KDE4 remix stable?15:29
fsdf!help15:30
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:30
JampiterHi, how would I go about ripping the Kubuntu CD into an ISO?15:34
EagleScreenuse K3b15:35
JampiterAny other way? I don't have K3b installed right now15:36
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EagleScreendo u need another programm for Linux or Windows?15:37
o0Chris0o hello, anyone care to help me with my nvidia 8600 gt card? I want to configure my xorg manually15:37
JampiterAh, It's opening15:37
JampiterTurned out I had it installed but not in the menu15:38
Jampitero0Chris0o: How new are you to Linux?15:38
EagleScreenit is in K menu -> Multimedia15:38
JampiterIf you're not experienced, editing xorg.conf manually is not a good idea15:38
JampiterI'm actually in GNOME at the no15:39
Jampitermo15:39
JampiterI opened it with the terminal15:39
o0Chris0opretty much new, but I I have done it before, and its been awhile since I been using linux15:39
EagleScreeno0Chris0o look for drivers in nvidia website15:40
Jampiter...How do I rip the disk in K3b?15:40
EagleScreenCopy CD15:40
EagleScreenand in the options select Only create image15:40
EagleScreenchoose the image destination and ready15:40
JampiterExcellent :)15:41
JampiterThanks :D15:41
ccoffeyapt-get build-dep <package> is handy. is there an equivalent for aptitude?15:46
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Guest7425kubuntu-es15:54
o0Chris0oEagleScreen: alright downloaded the new drivers, but....how do I install it15:54
Guest7425español15:54
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EagleScreeno0Chris0o what extension and name does it have?15:55
goyoayuda en español15:55
o0Chris0oahh lets see15:55
EagleScreen!es15:55
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.15:55
goyook15:56
o0Chris0o.run15:56
EagleScreentry running it15:56
o0Chris0olol15:56
o0Chris0oif I knew how to15:56
o0Chris0oI would15:56
EagleScreenopen a shell where the folder is located (F4)15:57
o0Chris0oyup already open15:57
EagleScreeni supuse it needs root permissions15:57
EagleScreenfirst run "chmod +x its_name.run" for make it executable15:58
EagleScreenafter run "sudo ./its_name.run"15:58
o0Chris0ok 1 sec15:59
DexterFhow can I enter japanese signs with a normal us keyboard?16:01
DexterFor even better: is there some app to draw signs by mouse/tablet that does on the fly ocr?16:02
ign0ramusDexterF: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM16:03
starenkahi, what's the metapackage name for kde-4? tried it, but wanna remove it... (using kde3.x)16:04
DexterFign0ramus: thanks16:04
ign0ramuskde4-core16:05
ign0ramusDexterF: np16:05
starenkaign0ramus: thanx16:05
ign0ramus:)16:05
starenka"not installed"16:05
starenka:))16:05
ign0ramus...and you tried uninstalling simply "kde4"?16:06
DexterFign0ramus: you ever used that? I set up a kubuntu box for a friend who studies japanese and quite frankly, I know next to jack about japanese signs16:06
ign0ramusDexterF: i have not.16:06
DexterFi see16:07
starenkaign0ramus: also not installed :))16:07
ign0ramusstarenka: hmmm... i would then go into Adept, check the box for only packages you currently have installed, and search for 'kde4'16:07
ign0ramusit's in there somewhere :)16:08
o0Chris0ohow do I go to a folder fromw ithin a terminal16:08
mooperdHi, I just installed kubuntu on my macbook. I have installed the wireless with ndiswrapper but knetwork manager is not picking up the wlan0 device16:08
ign0ramuso0Chris0o: cd command16:08
o0Chris0okk16:09
ign0ramuso0Chris0o: example would be " cd ~/Desktop"16:09
o0Chris0ok ty16:09
o0Chris0owhat does the sh command do16:10
ign0ramuso0Chris0o: it executes binary files16:12
o0Chris0oalright16:12
o0Chris0ofigured that out now :D16:12
ign0ramuso0Chris0o: if you have a .run file, you want to use "sudo sh file.run"16:12
ign0ramusmooperd: http://www.pingtrip.com/weblog/2008/04/kubuntu-on-a-macbook-pro16:12
o0Chris0ohow do I get out of x and install a driver and have access to IRC16:13
marek_hello, what tool are you using for programming in C++ ?16:13
ign0ramuso0Chris0o: why do you need to log out of x to do that16:13
starenkaign0ramus: i "uninstalled kde4 via adept" nevertheless i can still run it :)))16:13
o0Chris0oI am installing the latest nvidia drivers16:13
ign0ramusstarenka: weird :/16:14
ign0ramuso0Chris0o: ctrl+alt+f1 will take you to text-only mode16:14
ign0ramus!programming16:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about programming16:14
o0Chris0oalright, how do I access IRC?16:14
ign0ramus!code16:14
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, netbeans, pida16:14
ign0ramuso0Chris0o: depends on your client... if you only have a gui client, then x is necessary16:15
ign0ramusstarenka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67758816:18
marek_do you know maybe DevC from Windows??16:19
marek_I'm looking for something  similar, but for Kubuntu16:20
ign0ramusmarek_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dev-cpp/16:21
starenkaign0ramus: awsome!!! can you help w/ gettinf rid of gnome too? :))16:24
ign0ramusstarenka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2164716:27
makomaniahow do i make ntfs to be mount on every boot16:27
starenkamakomania: put it into /etc/fstab16:28
makomaniastarenka: can you please tell me how to do that please..16:29
ign0ramus!fstab16:29
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions16:29
ign0ramusstarenka: i believe the basic package is 'ubuntu-desktop'16:29
starenkamakomania: #/dev/sda1  /windows/c  ntfs-3g  defaults  0 0   where sdax is being the partiotion /windows.... being created mountpoint]16:30
starenkamakomania: dont use the # - it means comment16:30
starenkamakomania: kdesu kate /etc/fstab   let you edit the file16:31
starenkaign0ramus: thx.. well i tried this once and cancelled, because it has shown me loaads of packages to remove and i'm pretty sure some where used by some apps i use.. also apps i use would be removed...16:32
ign0ramusstarenka: yeah, apt tends to do that... you can always reinstall the packages you want to keep, and they won't bring back 'ubuntu-desktop'...16:33
starenkaign0ramus: and yes :))) ubuntu-dekstop is not isntalled :)))16:33
starenkadarn16:33
ign0ramusstarenka: hmmm... then you may just want to keep gnome because like you said, a ton of apps depend on it16:33
starenka:(16:33
starenkaok16:33
starenkathx for help, m816:34
ign0ramusnp :)16:34
makomaniastarenka: I opened the file fstab but i'm confused here Camt understand any thing16:35
ign0ramus!fstab | makomania  Please read and you will understand16:35
ubottumakomania  Please read and you will understand: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions16:35
ign0ramus!fstab16:35
ign0ramusubottu: you are slow today :)16:36
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:36
ign0ramus!botsnack16:36
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!16:36
legolas99hola16:38
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legolas99someono knows how could i see videos at amarok?16:38
ign0ramuslegolas99: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=41435 Don't be surprised if it doesn't work well16:39
ign0ramuslegolas99: You may just want to wait until Amarok2 is stable16:39
legolas99yhanx so much man!!!16:40
danboidWe're getting a new 750GB HD for a server and my co-worker is talking of splitting it into two partitions with the justification of smaller partitiins make for faster access times. Is there any noticeable speed difference attained through doing this or is it bull?16:40
ign0ramusnp16:40
legolas99but how i install it?16:41
ign0ramusdanboid: it is true to a point, but depending the size of the drive and the rpms, the difference may be minimal16:41
ign0ramusdanboid: if you are using something like NTFS, the difference in speed will be greater than that of ext2 or 3, mostly because of the way files are organized16:42
danboidSo there would be a noticeable difference for NTFS?16:42
ign0ramusdanboid: possibly.  it will be faster, benchmark-wise, but i don't know if you'd really 'feel' the difference16:43
penguiniatorIf both partitions are mounted and in use, you probably won't see any benefit. You still have only one read/write head for each platter.16:43
ign0ramusdanboid: this may help explain: http://partition.radified.com/partitioning_2.htm16:44
leneahey all. i've got a problem. after installing virtualbox i also installed the package virtualbox-ose-modules-386. after rebooting nothing works anymore, i've lost my 3D acceleration, my sound, and my graphics tablet. any idea what happened? thanks !!!!16:45
ign0ramuslenea: does it return if you uninstall?16:46
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leneaign0ramus : nope, unfortunately16:46
ign0ramuslenea: if you are just using Vbox for personal use, you should download the PHEL version from Sun16:46
leneaign0ramus : it's not that i care about that anymore. right now i just want my system the way it was ^_^16:47
ign0ramuslenea: i've never heard of that happening before... lemme see16:47
danboidlenea: virtualbox needs a kernel module/ patched kernel to run properly and so ubuntu installed a new kernel which messed up your gfx etc16:47
ign0ramuslenea: can you boot into a different kernel from grub?16:48
leneaign0ramus : i don't know, i'll try16:48
leneabrb16:48
ForgeAussure lenea16:49
ForgeAusyou can boot into any kernel you like even if its a non-linux one!16:49
ForgeAusthat doesn't guarantee your installed software will work with a different kernel however...16:50
jozef_Hello16:50
ForgeAushey Jozef16:50
jozef_I started IRC and I don't understand where I'm16:51
jozef_:)16:51
ForgeAusyour in a channel16:51
ForgeAusIRC is organized in "chatrooms" called channels16:51
jozef_Yet I understand16:52
ForgeAusthis one happens to be related to the Kubuntu Operating System16:52
ign0ramusjozef_: You are using Konversation, which by default takes you to #Kubuntu channel on irc.freenode.net16:52
jozef_Is that only one channel?16:52
jozef_on one world?16:52
ForgeAus(ign0ramus not just Kubuntu interestingly enough)16:52
ForgeAusno joezef16:52
jozef_józef ;)16:52
ForgeAusthere are many more IRC servers and many more channels on them16:52
jozef_:o16:53
ign0ramus!irc | Jozef_16:53
ubottuJozef_: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines16:53
jozef_And what's name of this channel?16:53
leneathat worked. i just booted in my previous kernel and i've got everything back. thanks alot for the help. i really owe you one guys16:53
ForgeAusthis one is mostly for support with as I said, the Kubuntu Linux operating system16:53
jozef_I'm working on ubuntu :) How can I change a channel16:54
ForgeAus(I think andLinux by default also brings people here, among a few other possible ways of getting konversation)16:54
faileasForgeAus: i think thats a mistake ;p16:54
faileasjozef_: /join #channel16:54
jozef_ops,16:55
* faileas kinda likes irc being all esoteric16:55
jozef_how can I search channel??16:55
faileasjozef_: you'll need to know the channel name, obviously, and replace #channel with it16:56
ForgeAusuh sorry I'm not sure wha you mean by esoteric16:56
jozef_ok, sorry :)16:56
faileasForgeAus: if you don't know how to use it, you shouldn't be using it ;p16:56
ForgeAusjozef try typing: /join #Ubuntu16:56
ign0ramusjozef_: you can search for different channels/topics here http://searchirc.com/16:56
ign0ramusfaileas: then no one would have ever learned16:56
ForgeAuslol faileas :)... we all have to start somewhere16:56
* faileas is wiery of suggesting the standard list command on freenode16:57
faileasign0ramus: i started off at a smaller server ;p16:57
ForgeAusyes using /list these days isn't such a great idea unless its a small server...16:57
alfonsoKubuntu vs Ubuntu, who is better?16:58
ign0ramusalfonso: where are you right now? ;)16:58
alfonsokubuntu16:58
ForgeAusmany even block it and/or /dns and/or /links commands too....16:58
ign0ramusalfonso: there you go ;)   Seriously though, it's a matter of preference.  And many people run both16:58
ign0ramusI happen to love KDE16:58
ForgeAusalfonzo, the true answer is neither...16:59
alfonsouhmmm16:59
alfonsook16:59
faileasalfonso: matter of whichever you feel better with16:59
ForgeAusI personally favour Kubuntu, but Gnome is right... for some (its also less headache with ppl that insist on basing dependancies on gnome packages :(... )16:59
ForgeAusimho Gnome is also quite ugly ... but then themes can be changed...17:00
faileasi prefer KDE. my gnome installs get modded to be more windows like >_>17:00
faileasprogramme menu at bottom left, everything on one bar ;p17:00
ForgeAushehe faileas, my KDE I tend to windows-ize it some :) one of the things I like about it17:01
starenkakde 3.5 is funky17:01
faileasmy KDE is almost stock, black theme with mods to make it actually usable17:01
ign0ramusI actually started on KDE because they said it was more intuitive if you come from a Windows background17:01
ForgeAusie double-click mouse, autohide panel... among others..17:01
faileasmy dad hates it, which is good ;p17:01
ForgeAusI'd agree ign0ramus17:02
ForgeAusKDE is more mac-friendly too17:02
faileaseww17:02
* faileas hates OS x17:02
ForgeAus(you can set a menubar at the top of the screen same way mac does)17:02
ign0ramusOS X is BSD-based17:02
ForgeAus(as well as you can use baghira theme, etc.)17:02
ForgeAusyes17:02
ign0ramusits like our retarded cousin17:02
ForgeAuswell its a hybrid BSD/Mach kernel17:02
jozef_I was using KDE, when I have mandriva on disk, but from this school year I using Gnome on Ubuntu, and I'm very happy:)17:02
ign0ramusbut she sure is pretty!17:02
ForgeAus(called xnu from memory)17:03
faileasign0ramus: my issues are for most part UI based ironically. i LOVE how it handles installation of software tho17:03
ign0ramusdrag n drop17:03
faileasyup17:03
jozef_What You come from?17:03
faileason the other hand, i hate the rest of it17:03
jozef_:) Sorry for my english :)17:03
ign0ramusfaileas: I find it way too restrictive17:04
faileasKDE is so much nicer *g*17:04
faileasjozef_: singapore, used to live in england a bit, and france a few months ;p17:04
ign0ramusI wish KDE 4.1 was usable at this point17:04
faileasi can wait ;p17:04
ForgeAuspersonally I don't think mac looks any nicer... its just more grey, with a nice dock bar...17:04
ForgeAusyeah I like how it uses folders as apps that way17:04
* faileas is tempted to try LXDE though17:04
ForgeAuswell it is USABLE just not "there" yet imho...17:04
ign0ramusForgeAus: you are right.  I'm just mad... it looks *so * nice17:05
ForgeAusLXDE is XP-like right?17:05
jozef_?17:05
faileasyeah17:05
faileasand lightweight17:05
* faileas is considering running that on the debian or ubuntu server i'm setting up next week17:05
ForgeAusI don't like the way kde4's taskbar looks kinda Vista-like17:06
ForgeAusand isn't runnable as a separate app from plasma17:06
ign0ramusForgeAus: again, easily changable... but so many bugs to work out17:06
ForgeAusyes well there are other taskbar themes17:06
faileasits an older box, mainly for file serving and downloads but would be nice to be able to use it as a spare net access system17:06
ForgeAusbut sofar the ones I have/see are pretty much all grey/black17:07
ign0ramusI'm holding off on the Intrepid download... have you seen how this channel get flooded with people with usability issues?17:07
faileasnothing wrong with black ;p17:07
faileasign0ramus: my policy with updates is to wait till the screaming stops17:07
ign0ramusfaileas: it might be a while... no KDE3 by default any more... :(17:07
faileasmy hardy based laptop will probably be running hardy about 2-3 months after intrepid comes out17:07
ForgeAushehe faileas, black is ok for some but I'm not interested...17:08
faileasForgeAus: !17:08
faileashell i even have green on black for all my terminals ;p17:08
ForgeAusmore a blue (and/or yellow) fan here...17:08
ForgeAusahh yes green on black, how oldskool or Matrix of you :)17:08
ForgeAuslemme guess you have a hercules graphics adaptor lying around somewhere? :)17:09
ign0ramushsha17:09
ubuntu_hi all17:09
ign0ramushi dr nick!17:09
ForgeAusnot that I"m complaining green on black is kewl...17:09
ForgeAus(although many monochrome/CGA monitors that were hercules card compatible had different modes ie white on black, the obvious one, green on black, or orange on black)17:10
ForgeAusbut THAT.... is mostly history... thankfully :)17:11
mbahamondehi, i just installed kubuntu on vmware and there is a very annoying dialog that is driving me crazy: it says that propietary drivers are currently in use to make the computer work properly and it keeps popping up. how can i disable this?17:11
Zer0Freakhi all17:11
Shadowkllrhello guys17:12
ForgeAuskinda like a "why did the dinosaur cross the road" joke ... would be "why did the EGA PC run DOS?" - "Because Linux wasn't invented then" rofl :)17:12
Shadowkllrlawl17:13
ForgeAus(of course I'm not sure if thats entirely true I was just kidding)17:13
Shadowkllranyone have any experience with nmap?17:15
cknowlesI think I have just formatted the wrong harddrive which was previously in NTFS and changed it to EXT3..... is there a chance I will be able to recover my data?17:24
cknowlesno wait, it was already in EXT317:25
faileascknowles: *maybe* you can use testdisk17:26
starenkaShadowkllr: what do you need?17:27
cknowlesok thanks, shall see what happens17:27
faileascknowles: its saved my butt before, but depends on how much was overwritten17:27
Shadowkllrnm, i'm in the ubuntu channel too, and i just figured it out17:27
reiseiHello folks!17:29
posontyhola17:43
posontyalguien habla español17:43
posontypor favor17:43
posontynecesito ayuda17:43
posontyhelppppppppp17:43
jussi01!es17:44
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:44
posontyhola17:44
posontyalguien habla español17:45
joshuajtlhey folks, my gtk apps (firefox for example) are not using my kde looks... (using kde 3)17:45
jussi01posonty: type: /join #kubuntu-es17:45
joshuajtli just read somewhwere that kubuntu is 1 month away from being a strictloy kde4 distro?17:52
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Farghwhats a good ftp program thats stable under kubuntu ?17:55
Farghtried gftp and kftpgrabber17:55
Farghboth crashes often17:55
penguiniatorhmm... I use gftp all the time without issue... try fireftp... have a look at http://linuxreviews.org/software/ftp-clients/17:59
ronnie_hi, I'm going to try out ubuntu/studio, on a pentium4 desktop, which version do i download?= (ISO) or (torrent) both i386 = )18:22
Eeyoreik heb wat schelpen in m'n hand18:22
ronnie_wish they had a kubuntu/studio = (18:23
faileasronnie_: unless you have a torrent client? iso18:23
ronnie_I just have normal high speed through bell (phone-line)18:24
ronnie_I'll go with the ISO, umm does kde 4 come with any new games, multimedia software, or only alot nicer desktop, same packages?18:27
Fieldyimo not really, just looks different/slicker. im not very impressed18:28
ronnie_ok thx won't bother switching till 8.10 gets released, only wanted it to explore different packages (heavy on multimedia) thats why I'm trying ubuntu/studio first time = )18:30
ngirard__Hi all. Has anybody succeeded in importing contacts from kaddressbook to GMail ?18:31
xompis it possible to install KDE 3.5.8 along with Gnome and not have applications from each DE showing up in each others applists?18:32
ronnie_I'm gonna try out the new buggy Intrepid kubuntu, is the latest version alpha4, the higher number meaning most recent?18:43
IppatsuManronnie_: the latest version is alpha 618:44
ForgeAusI guess so18:45
ronnie_oh theres a 6 kewl K ill try it, thx = )   old desktop don't matter if it dosent work properly18:45
ngirard__Hi all. Has anyone used GCALDaemon with kaddressbook ?18:47
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guillermohi19:07
guillermoi just installed kubuntu from windows19:07
guillermohow do i do uninstall it?19:07
guillermo!uninstall19:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about uninstall19:07
guillermo!uninstal19:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about uninstal19:07
matiasholaassss19:08
guillermo!format19:09
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QTParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap19:09
guillermo!uninstall19:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about uninstall19:09
ronnie_ok I just downloaded alpha6, but it says alternate is that the wrong one?19:13
ForgeAusthe alternate one isn't a livecd is just an (text-mode) install one I think19:14
ForgeAusits not necessarily wrong, depends on what your after19:14
ronnie_well just the full version of intrepid a;pha6, dosent matter if it loads in text mode19:15
ForgeAusthat CD afaik can install the full Interpid Alpha 619:15
ForgeAusor DVD or whtaever it is19:15
ForgeAusas to what you consider "full" ...19:16
ForgeAusis another compliated story entirely19:16
ronnie_k thx giving it a try , well I have a cd burner but only a dvd rom so can't burn a dvd = )19:16
Fargh_is there a default sfv checker in kubuntu ?19:18
jussi01sfv?19:18
jussi01ronnie_: for help with intrepid, please ask in #ubuntu+119:18
jussi01doh!!19:18
jussi01Fargh: sfv checker?19:19
Fargh_yes19:20
Fargh_similar to md519:20
carlosthemkio19:21
yurimxpxmanI'd like to get a DV camera.. is there anything I need to be aware of when I get one? (as far as compatibility with GNU/Linux)19:22
BsimsHow do I update my menus in kde its not doing it automaticaly... and Yes I have menu installed19:26
bringasholaa19:32
DexterFfriend of mine is on kopete/icq but invisible to me. shouldn't be. how come?19:32
DexterF(fresh install, no router, pppoe)19:32
bringashi a irc in spanish  for kubuntu? i need help please!19:33
DexterF#kubuntu-es I think19:33
bringasthanks man19:34
DexterFnp19:34
DexterFand how come libxine-ffmpeg isnt installed by default?19:34
jabapythmy computer stopped doing the Graphical Login.....it now gives me a terminal. How do i get that back?19:44
jabapythhmm19:45
LeeJunFanwell first jabapyth - wait for an answer for a while longer.19:49
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Guest43558#kubuntu-es.19:50
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poon[Mass Message] Inj20:13
ngirard__Hi all, i'm about to leave from home during 1 week, and I need to access my box via ssh. Surprisingly enough, i'm not able any more to connect to a remote machine20:20
ngirard__I get: Permission denied (publickey,password)20:21
ngirard__I'm sure I typed the right username/password20:21
_Shade_hi there20:22
ngirard__The trick is, i can open an ssh connection from a LAN machine20:23
_Shade_i just installed a new harddisk, and it has been recognized as 40gb while it's 160gb. It's 40 gigs in bios although gparted says it's 160. Is it safe to install linux on it at its full capacity then?20:25
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juan_hello20:38
christian__plis ubuntu in espanish chanel20:56
christian__cual es e lchanel de ubuntu en spain20:57
Bauldrick!es20:58
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:58
Darkrift2how do i make konq my filemanager instead of dolphin?21:00
adz21cDarkrift2: need to change the file association for directories if I remember correctly21:03
Darkrift2ahhh21:03
Darkrift2i forgot this isnt windows.... folders are files too lol21:03
adz21c;-)21:03
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Darkrift2well, folders isnt listed as a file type :S21:04
adz21cnode?21:05
adz21cyea it comes under node, directory21:05
Darkrift2fuond it :)21:06
Darkrift2but search didnt find it :S21:06
adz21cweird .. finds it in kde4 atleast :-)21:07
Darkrift2yeah, search must be broken, still doesnt find it, even though im looking at it21:07
adz21c:P21:07
_Progress_hi, i try to install kubuntu-kde4-desktop from launchpad repo but i get: E: Broken packages21:10
_Progress_http://code-bg.com/178421:11
_Progress_https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/+index?start=0&batch=75 i try this21:19
dr_willis I installed from the ppa repos just earlier today. You did  update/upgrade/ then installed the kde4 dekstop package?21:21
affanhello everyone... how do i find out which graphics card i have... i think i have Nvidia 5200 but how can i confirm?21:21
dr_willislspci command gives a lot of info affan , or open up the case and look.21:22
affanthanks dr_willis21:22
SiDiHello21:23
affanhello SiDi21:24
SiDiMay any of you tell me two things pls : how to see hidden directories in kde and send me a screeny of the .kde/ directory?21:24
SiDiI'm trying to help a guy having trouble to read DVDs with kaffeine/vlc all of a sudden21:24
SiDibut i know nothing of KDE :P21:24
SiDiSomething else.. whats likely to happen if i do "mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebackup", restart my x serv, and then do "mv ~/.kdebackup ~/.kde" ?21:26
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Guest2441How do i install mp3 codec ?21:36
Guest2441Can anyone help me ?21:37
chris______guest: add/remove applications21:38
chris______type ubuntu restrict in the search box21:38
chris______install ubuntu restricted extras21:38
chris______or kubuntu ofc21:38
Guest2441thanks !21:38
chris______i have freshly formatted a ext2 partitions now i dont have permission to write to it... whats wrong?21:40
carlosHe is possible to use “java 1.6.0 or superior” in “ubuntu 8,04 hardy”?21:41
rgreeninghow did you mount it? Read-only? Or is it even mounted?21:41
siegieext2 is een filesystem without journal. Why don't you use ext321:41
chris______rgreening: i just klicked it:)21:41
chris______i want to share it with other OSes... and read reports that windows sometimes messes up ext3 partitions21:42
chris______so i have to mount it in the console?21:42
rgreeningchris: to share with windows, not sure how etx2 will help.21:42
chris______rgreening: there are drivers for win+ext221:43
rgreeningoh.. good enuf then . :)21:43
carlosExcuse me for i am Spanish and i translate. -21:43
carlosHe is possible to use “java 1.6.0 or superior” in “ubuntu 8,04 hardy”?21:44
rgreeningchris: check mount info from command (console)21:44
chris______k i will21:44
rgreeningcarlos: not sure.21:44
rgreening!info sun21:45
ubottuPackage sun does not exist in hardy21:45
carlosrgreening:  graciassssssss...21:45
rgreening!info java-6-sun21:46
ubottuPackage java-6-sun does not exist in hardy21:46
carlosrgreening:  okis.... Me that is él podido download the series 1.0.7 but nomas21:47
carlosubottu:  okis... gracias21:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about okis... gracias21:47
rgreening!info java-5-sun21:48
ubottuPackage java-5-sun does not exist in hardy21:48
chris______!info sun-java6-jre21:48
ubottusun-java6-jre (source: sun-java6): Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-06-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6185 kB, installed size 14188 kB21:48
rgreeninglol21:48
rgreeninghad it backwards21:48
rgreeninghaha21:48
carlosok... gracias=thank you21:48
chris______its also in the restricted extras i mentioned above21:48
rgreeningmy bad21:48
chris______i dont know the exact version21:48
carlosubottu:   thank you, copying your text and i look to see that i can translate and understand. - greetings21:51
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:51
carlosubottu: OK ... boot didn't not thought21:52
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:52
SiDiel es una machina carlos xD21:52
carlosSiDi: ok.. ok.. jajajaja.. sorry21:53
sTratovariuZcan someone open and watch this http://www.megavideo.com/?v=YENW83QR and tell me if he sees the ratio shortened horizontally?21:57
SiDiWhat do you mean sTratovariuZ21:59
SiDibtw X-Files pawns :P21:59
SiDiThe display seems to be all normal to me21:59
sTratovariuZi mean if watching it you notice is not good quality and you see the ratio shortened horizontally thus the figures appear longer then they should be21:59
SiDiI see what you mean22:00
sTratovariuZ(full screen)22:00
SiDiLike 16:9 but on a 4:3 screen ?22:00
sTratovariuZso it's the same with u?22:00
SiDiYeh i guess it's the guy who made the vid from a 16:922:00
SiDibut megavideo takes only 4:322:00
sTratovariuZis there a way to modify what im watching?22:01
sTratovariuZlike on the mac, if you watch something on the mac u can modify the ratio with ur mouse22:01
SiDino its a flash animation22:01
sTratovariuZis there a prog? or an app through which u can do what im sayin?22:01
SiDii dont see what you can do about it22:01
sTratovariuZmmm22:02
sTratovariuZalright22:02
SiDican u really modify the ratio of a megavideo vid from mac? oO22:02
ign0ramussTratovariuZ: you can download the flash file and convert to whatever and watch it on your computer22:02
sTratovariuZcuz i use megavideo allot and most of the stuff i watch it's like this, it bothers me allot22:02
sTratovariuZyes but downloading takes ages in streaming i can watch it in real time22:02
ign0ramussTratovariuZ: then you can't really complain22:03
sTratovariuZoc course i can22:04
sTratovariuZit sucks :D22:04
SiDiits megavideo :D22:04
SiDiif the guy puts a video with bad quality theres not much to do ^^22:04
ign0ramussTratovariuZ: dude you're watching a pirated video on a shitty .flv stream and bitching about aspect ratio???22:04
SiDiyeh i've to agree :D22:04
SiDii got the whole X-Files DVDs if u want tho xD22:05
SiDibut its in french D:22:05
sTratovariuZj'parle français aussi SiDi :D22:05
ign0ramussTratovariuZ: then you would know not to abbreviate "je parle" ;)22:06
SiDiign0ramus, i dare you to find a french native who would write je parle more often than chparle or jparle on an irc channel :D22:06
ign0ramusSadly, language has taken a turn for the worse when typed :(22:07
sTratovariuZi speak 4 languages and talking about french i totally agree with SiDi22:07
sTratovariuZeven when u speak french u dont say "je parle" but "j'parle"22:07
sTratovariuZand whatever "je" does it's always abbreviated :D22:08
sTratovariuZgotta go22:08
sTratovariuZhave a good one boys22:08
ghostcubeanyione noticed problems with mozilla-mplayer here and not playing vids22:08
ign0ramusghostcube: nope22:08
ign0ramusghostcube: are you using the .xpi add-on?22:08
ghostcubenope its the installed one by apt-get22:09
ghostcubeit simply stops the vid its not playing it22:09
josephok, so i have a panel on the bottom of the screen and one on the right-hand side of the screen.  however, when i try to configure the panel on the right side, it only affects the bottom.22:09
SiDiign0ramus, frenchies cant write french decently22:10
SiDigotta face the truth :D22:10
josephhow do i configure multiple panels?22:10
ign0ramusSiDi: they have an entire institution dedicated to preserving the language!22:10
ign0ramusghostcube: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/mplayerplug-in/mplayerplug-in-0.4.xpi?download try this one22:10
ign0ramusghostcube: also, to see if its a problem with the stream, try opening in vlc or mplayer externally22:11
ghostcubeign0ramus: i did22:11
ghostcubeand it give me an eror about ipv622:11
ign0ramusghostcube: so the stream is good, then?22:11
ghostcubebut if i start it with -playlist it works22:11
ign0ramusghostcube: what did?22:11
ghostcubewas asking in mplayer before22:11
ghostcubethe stream works fine with vlc plugin22:11
ghostcubebut i dont like the vlc p plug in 0.8.622:12
ign0ramusghostcube: try uninstalling with apt-get, and installing the .xpi from the link above22:12
ghostcubeok22:12
ign0ramusghostcube: you'll have to restart firefox after that22:12
SiDiYeh i know ign0ramus, but the youth isn't that interested in how to spell words22:12
ghostcubeign0ramus: i know thx22:12
SiDiit sometimes even lead people to being a bit upset :D22:12
ign0ramusSiDi: are you from France?22:12
ign0ramusI studied the language and culture through college, and I remember the outrage when French kids were calling discs "CDs"22:13
ghostcubeheh germans do this too lol22:14
SkEmOo.o22:14
SiDiyeh ign0ramus :p22:16
SiDiWell we all say CDs nowaways22:16
ign0ramusSiDi: or saying 'ouai'... I personally never liked that myself22:16
SiDiit's more about those 12 to 16yo children who can't type a phrase of 5 words without doing at least 3 errors22:17
SiDiand making it unreadable22:17
dr_willisor they type22:17
dr_willislike22:17
dr_willisthis, wait.. theres more...22:17
dr_willis:)22:17
ign0ramusSiDi: you can always use a translator :) http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files/aolertranslator.html22:18
SiDinowadais *22:19
ign0ramusnowadays22:19
SiDinowadays * /me feels tired.22:19
FarmerHi, I cant seem to find the button called "show windows from all desktops" button22:19
ghostcubeign0ramus: this isnt going to work22:19
ign0ramusghostcube: you've tried, and it still fails?22:20
Farmerany help, it is like it has wanished, I remember it used to be in the taskbar settings22:20
ghostcubeit doesnt detect windows media strem now22:20
ghostcubei cant check the setting i can give u the site u will see what i mean22:20
ign0ramusghostcube: link please22:21
ghostcubehttp://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/content/Vince_Ebert_Denken_lohnt_sich/9602,270972/58322022:21
ghostcubeleft sided is an tool icon22:21
ign0ramusghostcube: that's not a video url22:21
danielehallo22:21
ghostcubeno just use this pls u will see22:21
ign0ramusghostcube: i don't read German - just tell me what to click on22:22
ghostcubethis si embedded stream22:22
danieleci sta qualcuno che parla italiano?22:22
josephfor some reason, i cannot change the wallpaper.  is there a command that will set it?22:22
ign0ramus!it | daniele22:22
ubottudaniele: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)22:22
ghostcubeleft side is an tool on the lower left22:22
ghostcubeover the i22:22
ghostcubeit opens an settings tab to chosose which format o want22:23
ghostcubewindows media vlc or wuick time22:23
ign0ramusghostcube: i'm afraid the page you gave me is not displaying the same way you see it22:23
chris______ghostcube: why dont you pick vlc?22:23
ign0ramusghostcube: can you give a direct link to the stream, please?22:23
ghostcubechris______: the vid is worse22:23
ghostcubeign0ramus: sure wait22:23
ghostcubehttp://wstreaming.zdf.de/zdf/300/080913_ebert_3sf.asx22:24
ign0ramusghostcube: plays for me..22:24
ign0ramusghostcube: right-click > configure22:24
chris______ghostcube: i can watch it in windows media format aswell22:24
ghostcubeff cant handle the file22:24
chris______but the quality isnt as good as in windows22:25
ghostcubei know how the mplayer plug works this stopped some weeks ago22:25
ghostcubecould be with abn update22:25
ign0ramusghostcube: ohhh... you may need to install firefox-gnome-support22:25
ghostcubeiam on kde :)22:26
ign0ramusghostcube: Firefox is gtk22:26
ghostcubeoh thought there is an qt port :)22:26
ign0ramusghostcube: there is, but unless you manually downloaded it, Firefox is gtk22:26
ghostcubebut this worked before ff 3.0.122:26
ign0ramusghostcube: ever noticed how the dialog box always looks terrible?22:26
ghostcubeyeah22:26
ghostcube:D22:26
ghostcubebut iam on compiz with workarrounds22:27
ghostcubeso :)22:27
ign0ramusghostcube: just for me, please install firefox-gnome-support22:27
ghostcubefirefox-3.0-gnome-support22:28
ghostcubefor ff3 i asume ?22:28
ign0ramusghostcube: yeah, try that.22:29
ign0ramusghostcube: if you're saying that firefox doesn't know how to handle an .asx file, it's usually due to this.22:29
ghostcubeyeah this doesnt work with mozilla-mplayer normally22:30
ghostcubecause the plugin is installed specially22:30
ghostcubenope gnome support doesnt play it in firefox want to open external22:30
ghostcube^^22:30
ign0ramusghostcube: can you configure it in Edit > Preferences > Applications22:31
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ghostcubein ff ?22:32
ign0ramusghostcube: yes22:32
ghostcubethe xpi u gave me ?22:32
ghostcubenope22:32
ign0ramusghostcube: there's no listings for ASF video?22:32
ign0ramusor Windows Media Audio/Video?22:33
ghostcubeits vlc ath the moment22:33
ghostcubewait must trigger it22:33
ign0ramusghostcube: This window is blank in KDE until you install 'firefox-gnome-support'22:34
ign0ramushttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/22079822:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 220798 in firefox-3.0 "[KDE] Applications tab in preferences is empty in Firefox-3.0b5  " [Medium,Incomplete]22:34
ghostcubeyeah i see it i have the package installed22:34
ign0ramusghostcube: so now change you change the MIME-type to your plugin?22:35
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ghostcubenope22:36
ign0ramusghostcube: and you should probably get rid of the vlc plugin, as it will conflict with the Mplayer plugin22:36
ghostcubeign0ramus: i know i needed it to get vid working22:36
SiDiign0ramus, is it any dangerous to delete one's .kde directory22:37
ghostcubeok its just an bug in mozilla-mplayer and ff  3.01   as it seems i cant get the xpi working here22:37
ghostcubeSiDi: yes22:37
SiDiand then get one's backup and rename it .kde ?22:37
SiDiare there are symlinks or such stuff that would cause trouble ?22:37
SiDia friend did it and now some of his default apps were changed22:37
Darkrift2anyone ever got frontpage running under wine?22:38
SiDihe doesnt have konqueror instead of dolphin22:38
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ign0ramusSiDi: wow... there's a lot of config files in .kde ... why'd he delete it?22:39
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ign0ramusSiDi: default apps are easy to change if that's his biggest problem.22:39
SiDiSeems like all chmod/chown stuff is wiped22:39
adz21cDarkrift2: can't say i have tried, but i know people got office running under it before now and isn't frontpage part of office?22:40
SiDiwell it's my fault... i told him to because i didn't think there was any root owned files inside it22:40
ign0ramusSiDi: yeah, ~/.kde/share/apps has a ton of info22:40
SiDisince on my gnomeish thing i already did that without trouble22:40
Darkrift2it is.... i tried frontpage and it wont load, was hoping someone had seen that but considering the crappiness of that app, I guess most ppl dont use it22:41
ign0ramusghostcube: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446 - this is good if you insist on having multiple media plugins for firefox22:41
adz21cDarkrift2: your best off checking the wine app database, but yea frontpage is a shocking app so i wouldn't hold out much hope22:41
ign0ramusDarkrift2: have you tried OpenOffice's Impress?22:43
Darkrift2i need frontpage...22:43
Darkrift2i need to make a short video showing how to upload a site using frontpage22:43
Darkrift2i work with hosting and lots of customers use fp, and nobody knows how to use it lol22:44
adz21cisn't impress for presentations?22:44
SiDiwho asks you that? :/22:44
SiDioic22:44
SiDiboot under windows [sic]22:44
SiDifastest and safest way to do that i guess22:44
ign0ramusDarkrift2: i see... I'm not sure if Wine can handle that, but you can always do it in Virtualbox... (i realize this is not what you wanted to hear)22:44
Darkrift2yeah.... i have windows installed on here22:44
Darkrift2im ready for that option ign0ramus, just wanted to try wine first22:44
SiDiwine will probably be tricky22:44
SiDiand then clients will ask : why is your window border and font different ? :P22:45
Darkrift2LOL22:45
Darkrift2because im smart enough not to use windows22:45
Darkrift2easy answer22:45
ign0ramusDarkrift2: Virtualbox is pretty awesome... just make sure to get the PUEL version from virtualbox.org22:45
Darkrift2"you chose linux hosting because I told you windows hosting sucks.... same reason"22:45
Darkrift2i have it installed and setup already ign0ramus22:45
ign0ramusnice :)22:45
Darkrift2win2k3 server running on it already22:45
SiDiign0ramus, seeing what situation my friend is in, what would you do to fix it ?22:46
SiDiReinstalling KDE shall work, shall'nt it ?22:46
ign0ramusDarkrift2: well, if you're going to present to other working in a Windows environment, then that's probably you're best bet22:46
ign0ramusSiDi: that I don't know for sure... it wouldn't hurt to try, though :)22:47
SiDithe thing is that it'd be cool to save the firefox shortcuts, kaffeine playlists, etc22:47
SiDibut to get those files to work22:47
SiDii could tell him to chmod 777 his kde directory too... but its not really secure22:47
SiDiJust one thing at least : how to make konqueror main explorer ?22:48
SiDiinstead of dolphin22:48
ign0ramusSiDi: why would you 777 a directory, when he goes about accidentally deleting important files?22:48
ign0ramusSiDi: 'sudo apt-get purge dolphin' :)22:48
SiDiwell, we backed the directory .kde22:49
ign0ramusSiDi: sorry, i just like Konqueror that much more22:49
SiDirenaming it .kdebackup22:49
SiDiand then we just cp'd all the kdebackup data into the newly made .kde directory22:49
SiDiand some files seem not to be owned by root anymore22:49
SiDiall has been done from konsole with sudo22:49
ghostcubeign0ramus: ok i reinstalled an purged the mozilla-mplayer plugin deactivated vlc and reinstalled the mozilla-maplayer22:49
ghostcubeit works again withjout the error22:50
ghostcubethx for uure help :)22:50
ign0ramusghostcube: success!22:50
ign0ramusghostcube: np22:50
ghostcubeseems any ff update kicked the plugin out of range22:50
ghostcube:)22:50
ign0ramusghostcube: that happens more than it should :/22:51
ghostcubeyeah i just gitted webkit-gtk and trying midori22:51
ghostcube:)22:51
ghostcubehehe22:51
ign0ramusSiDi: if I'm not mistaken, all files and folder in /home are owned by the user22:51
CoJaBo-EeeIs it possible to change the default icon for a file type on KDE 4.1?22:51
ghostcubethe vid id so much better with mplayer vlx 0.8.6 isnt very well22:51
SiDinormally yes22:52
SiDibut some appear to be owned by root in .kde :/22:52
ign0ramusghostcube: I <3 vlc, but the plugin leaves a lot to be desired22:52
ghostcubeyes but i miss 0.9.2 for hardy :«22:52
ign0ramusSiDi: well, in that case, i would chmod them22:52
SiDi7xx at least ?22:52
ign0ramusghostcube: what, the external player?  You can grab it now22:52
ign0ramusSiDi: yeah, /home files shouldn't be owned by root unless you set them that way22:53
Gladyexternal is ok22:53
Gladybye22:53
ghostcubeign0ramus: yeah but not from repository :|22:53
ghostcubei need to compile it or22:53
ghostcubeproposed isnt shipping it22:53
kai__where i can get java?22:53
ign0ramusghostcube: there is a repository for it22:54
SiDiwhats the value to put 7 for user and to let unchanged the group and all values ?22:54
ghostcubeppa or offical22:54
ign0ramusppa launchpad22:55
ghostcubehmm i read abozut and thouht it want the best :-?22:55
ign0ramusghostcube: what? vlc?  IMHO, it is the best external media player on Windows or Linux (don't know about Macs)22:56
ghostcubenah the repo lol22:56
ign0ramusghostcube: it's a launchpad repo22:56
ign0ramus!launchpad22:57
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/22:57
ghostcubei know heh i use it for compiz :)22:57
ghostcubenm i was talking about an other private repoas it seems22:58
ghostcubewsnt this user22:58
ign0ramusregardless, its *deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/ubuntu hardy main* if anyone is interested22:58
kai__is here a german chat?22:58
ghostcube!de22:58
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de22:58
ghostcubeign0ramus: thx will try now22:59
ign0ramusghostcube: cool22:59
ign0ramusjust make sure to remove and autoremove old vlc packages23:00
ghostcubedeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ubuntu hardy main   if u need 0.7.6 in hardy :D23:00
ign0ramusghostcube: Honestly, the first thing I do is turn off Desktop Effects23:01
ghostcube:D23:01
ghostcubeok23:01
ign0ramusghostcube: unless I'm showing someone Kubuntu for their first time... it seems to really impress people! ;)23:01
ign0ramusThe only thing I do is switch desktops, and ctrl+tab works great for me23:02
ghostcubehmm i use it since beryl 0.1023:02
ghostcubeso iam used to the cube vps23:02
ghostcube:D23:02
ghostcubei use them all23:02
ign0ramusghostcube: i had *so* many problems with Beryl23:02
ign0ramusghostcube: but i also have crappy integrated graphics on this lappy, so ...23:02
ghostcubeoh ok iam on nvidia all the time so was lucky :)23:03
kaptnemoello all23:03
ign0ramusghostcube: the new desktop effects that shipped with Hardy actually work really well considering how bad my hardware is for graphics, though.23:03
Schuenemannwhen I do a "fdisk -l" it lists my partitions and then says: "Logical partitions not in the same disk order". How do I fix that?23:03
mike-dhey, I need to get the intel IHC10 drivers working on my install cd or it doesn't see my harddrive, anyone have any tips, or where to find the right kernel module?23:04
kaptnemois anyone having any issues with FF3 locking up due to some "chrome" script?23:04
ghostcubeign0ramus: yep it imporved the 0.7.6 is more imporved and some newer plugs23:04
ghostcubebut 0.78 should be cool and the intel drivers gets better23:04
SiDikaptnemo, what do you mean by chrome script ?23:04
SiDichrome://blabla ?23:04
ign0ramusSchuenemann: http://phlogma.com/linux/?p=423:05
ign0ramusghostcube: yep, good ol' integrated Intel graphics23:05
SiDiCan someone give me the result of "ls -l /home/YOURNAME/.kde/share/config/systemsettingsrc" ?23:05
ghostcubeign0ramus: the new betas in sid should fix some probs so far23:05
kaptnemoWell I keep getting an error that a script has become unresponsive let em see if I can get the error to come up again23:06
ghostcubei was told from user  in compiz channel23:06
ign0ramusSiDi: http://pastebin.com/m14fa6ffc23:06
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SiDiThanks23:07
SiDiso its not root owned for you23:07
ign0ramusSiDi: no, that's what i've been saying! :)23:07
kaptnemoSiDI the first script error I get is "chrome://global/content/bindings/browser.xml:0"23:08
ign0ramuskaptnemo: does it do that in Safe Mode?23:08
bonfimWHAT23:09
SiDichrome:// i think its the name of some linux theme for browsers23:09
SiDinothing to do with chrome browsers :P23:09
kaptnemooh lol23:09
kaptnemoanyway of getting rid of the theme?23:09
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SiDiNo i dont know at all how it works23:09
SiDibut its not a google attack at least ;p23:09
kaptnemohrmm ok thanks23:10
ign0ramuskaptnemo: it could be because of an add-on... did you try in Safe Mode?23:10
Schuenemannign0ramus, will try, thanks23:11
kaptnemono let me try it in safe mode... I did some reading on the ubuntu forums and got rid of most of my addons23:11
SiDiIt seems my friend got no more errors with his KDE, and his other problem is fixed !23:12
SiDiSounds like we succeeded at end23:12
ign0ramusSiDi: felicitations!23:12
SiDiThanks for your help ign0ramus :)23:13
ign0ramusSiDi: pas de probleme!23:13
SiDihehe ;P23:13
SiDiWhere are you from exactly?23:13
ign0ramususa23:13
SiDioki23:13
SiDiIt's rare seeing someone from the us speaking french :O23:14
ign0ramusSiDi: that's why I'm missing accents everywhere...23:14
SiDihehe np ;p23:14
SiDiWhat state are you living in, if i may ask ?23:14
ign0ramusPennsylvania23:14
SiDioki23:14
ign0ramusNothing very special here :(23:14
SiDi^^23:15
SiDiWell i'm half french half spanish living in France :O23:15
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SiDiand france is really a silly country :/23:15
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ign0ramusSiDi: but Europe is great because there are so many cultures and cities so close together23:17
ign0ramusI can drive for six hours straight on the freeway, and be at the other end of my state :(23:18
SiDiYeh thats true23:18
SiDiwe have a lot of cultures and opinions23:18
ghostcubeign0ramus: hmm 0.9.2 is segfaulting23:18
mike-dhow do i get the ubuntu installer to load a driver from something like a floppy or another cd?23:18
ign0ramusghostcube: that's strange...23:18
ghostcubethats what i meant before i read about this bug23:18
ghostcube:|23:18
mike-dI need to load the ata_piix kernel module for my install and i'm not sure on the specifics of telling hte installer to do it23:19
ign0ramusghostcube: I didn't hear of that problem... not that it helps you, but it installed fine for me.23:20
ign0ramusghostcube: but as I'm reading, there are plenty of others with this problem23:20
ghostcubeign0ramus: yep :(23:20
ghostcubeand its build without gdb support23:20
ign0ramusghostcube: how can you tell what repo a package comes from?23:21
ign0ramusghostcube: because i was able to install new vlc without the launchpad repo, but i have no idea how... maybe medibuntu?23:21
ghostcubesudo apt-cache policy23:21
dr_willismedibuntu does have 'variants' on someof th media plaers. :)23:22
dr_willisits very likely you got the medibuntu version installed.23:22
ghostcubei have all repos opened inclusive proposed and backports23:22
ghostcubeno 0.9.223:22
ghostcube:D23:22
ghostcubebut strange ui23:22
ghostcubeif i run the vlc inside gdb it does not crash23:23
ghostcubeoutside gdb it does23:23
ign0ramusthis is strange.... http://pastebin.com/m8892dc23:23
ghostcubelol i got it to work23:23
ghostcubejust start it gdb vlc23:23
SiDiGood night everyone :)23:23
ghostcuberun23:23
ghostcubequit gdb23:23
SiDiI'm on the go23:23
ghostcubeit will start after this23:23
ghostcuberofl23:24
ign0ramusghostcube: what it gdb?23:24
ghostcubedebugger23:24
ign0ramusghostcube: so turning off debugging works, then?23:24
ghostcubeno if it crashed for u23:24
ghostcubethen just debug it23:24
ghostcubehere now it works23:24
ghostcubejust start it once inside gdb23:24
ghostcubeyep works now ;F23:25
ign0ramusghostcube: ohh... looking at my output, it seems my vlc compiling actually *did* work.  That's strange because it gave me an error when i "make install"'d23:25
ghostcube:D23:25
dr_willis!sudo23:26
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)23:26
Schuenemannign0ramus, it didn't work =/23:26
ign0ramusSchuenemann: i forget, what were you trying to do?23:26
ign0ramusoh, the partition error23:27
Schuenemannreorder my logical partitions23:27
ign0ramuswell, dr_willis is in... maybe he can help23:27
Schuenemannwhy? is that a medical problem?23:27
ign0ramusSchuenemann: sometimes it feels like one, doesn't it?  xD23:27
Schuenemannyeah :D23:28
monotokohiya, anyone know how to open multiple servers with konversation IRC client?23:28
Schuenemanndr_willis, so, doc, can you help? :p23:28
ign0ramusmonotoko: just use the /server command ?23:28
monotokoohh aye :P23:29
monotokohavent used IRC in a loooonnnngggg time23:29
dr_willis'please state the nature of the linux emergancy'23:29
ign0ramusdr_willis: haha :)23:29
Schuenemannhehehe... well, "fdisk -l" says my logical partitons are not in the same order as the disk's23:29
dr_willisthats very likely true23:30
Schuenemannand it's bad too23:30
dr_willisIve seen some very weird partition layouts in my days23:30
ign0ramusSchuenemann: are you experiencing any problems because of this?23:31
Schuenemannnot really, but I wanted to format one of them and cfdisk can't do it and neither qtparted can23:31
Schuenemannthis is the output from fdisk: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/48719/23:32
dr_willisfdisk tools normally 'fdisk/partition' the drive to make filesystems you then format. :)23:33
ign0ramusSchuenemann: dude, Windows 95?23:33
dr_willisgparted is special in that it can do both.23:33
Schuenemannign0ramus, I think that stuff is bugged. I don't remember having one. Anyway, I'll wipe it out when this problem is solved :)23:34
ign0ramusdr_willis: so you're saying gparted can format where qtparted cannot?23:34
SchuenemannI though qt|g where just frontends to the same program23:34
dr_willisign0ramus,  both are just front ends calling mkfs.* i belive23:35
ign0ramusdr_willis: because he was saying qtparted wasn't working23:35
dr_willisi cant rember the last time i even tried qtparted23:35
dr_willisi always use gparted23:35
ign0ramusdr_willis: as you've told me, it's deprecated now anyway :)23:35
SchuenemannI actually mean qtparted doesn't list partitions correctly23:35
dr_willissome days I feel deprecated23:36
dr_willisL)23:36
dr_willisi wouldent use qtparted Schuenemann  - i would stick with gparted.23:36
dr_willisActually i would use the latest gparted Live cd. :) but thats just me....23:36
Schuenemannbut there's something wrong. cfdisk doesn't work either23:37
dr_willisso you mean to say that fdisk, and cfdisk give different layouts?23:37
Schuenemanncfdisk doesn't do anything, just outputs an error message23:37
SchuenemannIt just says: Fatal error: Invalid logical partition 7: logical partitions increased overlapped23:38
Schuenemann(I'm translating so it might not be very accurate)23:38
ign0ramusdr_willis: now that you've got me thinking about it, i wanted to shrink my Windows partition to make more room for Kubuntu... I need to unmount the NTFS volume to resize it, correct?23:39
dr_willisyou MUST have partitions unmounted to work on them with gparted, or other tools. :)23:40
dr_willisWhichis why i always use a live cd. that way im sure they are all unmounted23:41
ign0ramusdr_willis: that makes sense.23:41
Darkrift2omfg i hate microsoft23:41
ign0ramusdr_willis: the doctor has spoken!23:41
Darkrift2they cant do a damned thing right23:41
dr_willisI have seen that the ntfs resize tool under vista - is MUCh faster then gparted ntfs resizing23:41
ign0ramusDarkrift2: yeah, but did you see the new commercials? (/sarc)23:41
dr_willisand from what i hear. using gparted on a Vista System/ntfs - can cause issues23:41
Darkrift2do they depict large unmanned jets hitting bill gates home?23:41
dr_willis'we had to lie to people to get them to try our new os' commercials  ign0ramus ?23:42
Darkrift2if no, then im uninterested23:42
ign0ramusdr_willis: yeah those...23:42
Darkrift2oh, yeah....23:42
Schuenemanndr_willis, but fdisk/qtparted to show different layout. qtparted doesn't show Win95, for example. Here's a screenshot: http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qtpartedvs7.jpg23:42
ign0ramusDarkrift2: lol23:42
ign0ramusdr_willis: or no, I meant the ones with Seinfeld... the ones that leaving like ".........what.... the .... f***?"23:42
Schuenemannqtparted is buggy. It says I have a 15GB partition with 35GB used23:43
ign0ramus*that leave you like23:43
Darkrift2frontpage works for about 10% of my customers.... we blame that 75% on an error id10t and 25% on frontpage sucking... i just installed frontpage and knowing EVERY step to publish, i get errors 75% of the time23:43
Darkrift2so im trying to make screenshots or a video of the process, but you cant take screenshots in windows with a menu open23:43
ign0ramusdr_willis: ok, from my Kubuntu livecd, is gparted already installed?23:43
dr_willis'PEBKAC' Errors :)23:43
dr_willisign0ramus,  no idea. I doubt it.. :) if its not - install it.23:44
Schuenemanndr_willis, what's that?23:44
dr_willisI tend to use the lastest gparted live cd. since its faster23:44
dr_willisProblem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair. :)23:44
ign0ramusdr_willis: problem exists between keyboard and chair23:44
ign0ramuswoops, didn't mean to tab you23:44
Schuenemannok, so I'm the problem. Now what?23:44
dr_willis'look out!  we got a 12:00 flasher!' --> someone who cant even set the date on a VCR. :)23:44
ign0ramusSchuenemann: he wasn't referring to you... although that could be the issue ;)23:45
dr_willisSchuenemann,  im not sure of your exact problem.  I would trust fdisk, over qtparted.23:45
dr_williswhat IS the actual problem anyway?23:45
Schuenemannlogical partitions out of order23:45
Schuenemannthat is the problem23:45
ign0ramusthat's what i've been trying to find out for 20 minutes23:45
ign0ramusSchuenemann: what problems in your computing does this cause?23:45
dr_willisThey can be out of order and the system work fine.23:46
ign0ramusNow here's something... "fdisk -l" produces no output at all for me.... *scratches head*23:46
dr_willisign0ramus,  add a sudo to the front23:46
Schuenemannthe system works, but I can't format my partitions since the programs look crazy... cfdisk doesn't even start23:47
* ign0ramus puts on robe and dunce hat23:47
Schuenemannactually it does start, but only displays a error message and quits23:47
ign0ramusalright, i'm off to shrink windows down... bbl23:47
dr_willisif you want to 'format' a filesystem - you can use the command line mkfs.ext3 or other commands.23:48
Schuenemannhow can I trust that if 1 program can't display my table partitions and the other 2 display it differently? =/23:48
dr_willis It may be a good idea to backup any imporntant data, and perhaps repartition/reformat the drive and make a more sane layout.23:49
dr_willisi would trust fdisk, over gparted, or qtparted.23:49
dr_willisyou could go get that gparted live cd, and see what it says also.23:49
dr_willisYou are sure you are not accidently looking at 2 different disks right?23:49
dr_willisI see you got a sda and sdb.23:50
joseph!apache23:50
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)23:50
Schuenemannnah... sdb has only a win95 one. And I sent you  the output from fdisk and qtparted's screenshot, remember? :p23:50
SchuenemannAND cfdisk can't display anything, so there's something wrong23:50
dr_willisqtparted display seems fine to me.23:51
Schuenemanndr_willis, what is that /dev/sda2 there?23:52
Schuenemannand how can /dev/sda7 used space be bigger than it's size?23:52
dr_willis sda2 is a 'extended' partition, which holds logical partitions23:52
Schuenemannhm... what about sda7?23:53
dr_willisi was just looking at the layout/order23:53
dr_willisIf theres nothibng imporntant on the linxu  partitions - it may be a good idea to remove sda2 and the logicals, and repartition23:54
wtI was just wondering. Are the network manager issues with wireless supposed to be worked out before the release?23:54
dr_willisI tend to use  all primary partitions.23:54
Schuenemanndr_willis, but I'm using one of them right now23:55
dr_willissda5  used = N/A seems very weird23:55
Schuenemanndr_willis, I think that should be the 35,9823:56
dr_willisits possible theres some how some overlapping of the partitions.23:56
Schuenemannyes, I got an error like that when I tried to reorder the logical partitions23:57
Schuenemanndr_willis, oh no, it was when I tried cfdisk23:59
SchuenemannFatal error: Invalid logical partition 7: logical partitions increased overlapped23:59
dr_willisive learned over the years.. to just use 4 primary partions. :) I rarely use extended/logicals any more23:59

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