| elmo | how do I link a bug to an upstream one? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| wgrant | elmo: "Also affects project" | 00:01 |
| wgrant | Find the project, and paste the bug URL into the appropriate box. | 00:01 |
| wgrant | And hope it works. | 00:01 |
| wgrant | Which it does in a lot of cases now, particularly since it started automatically creating bugtrackers. | 00:02 |
| elmo | I don't need this upstream link molarkey for the distro source package? | 00:02 |
| wgrant | You don't need it, but it helps. | 00:02 |
| wgrant | It sets the default for when you click "Also affects project" | 00:02 |
| wgrant | Compare https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soundconverter/+bug/260853/+choose-affected-product and https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/convertall/+bug/224049/+choose-affected-product | 00:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 260853 in soundconverter "Write ID3 tags to converted files" [Wishlist,New] | 00:03 |
| wgrant | Hmm, a product reference in the UI. | 00:04 |
| elmo | "<structured-string 'Invalid series given.'>" | 00:05 |
| elmo | \o/ | 00:05 |
| elmo | what a sweet pop up | 00:06 |
| wgrant | Hah. | 00:06 |
| wgrant | I keep away from those pages in general. | 00:06 |
| wgrant | As they're rather unmaintained. | 00:06 |
| wgrant | Would one file bugs against -foundations or soyuz for those pages? | 00:10 |
| elmo | not soyuz, I don't think | 00:12 |
| _Zeus_ | am i the only one annoyed by that long thing at the right on launchpad? | 00:26 |
| _Zeus_ | the thing that makes the page so much longer | 00:26 |
| wgrant | On which page? | 00:28 |
| wgrant | The only horrifyingly long one is the Ubuntu tag list. | 00:28 |
| wgrant | (that I know of, that is) | 00:30 |
| wgrant | And I know most parts of LP pretty well. | 00:31 |
| _Zeus_ | yeah, that one | 00:36 |
| * NCommander wonders whats in the PPA admin menu | 00:46 | |
| wgrant | NCommander: Hm? | 00:49 |
| NCommander | wgrant, https://edge.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/+admin | 00:49 |
| NCommander | Or equivelent PPA admin URL | 00:49 |
| wgrant | Making it private, probably. | 00:50 |
| NCommander | I wonder if there is any other magic in that menu :-P | 00:50 |
| NCommander | Like a switch to enable it to use real vs. virtual builders | 00:50 |
| NCommander | wgrant, do any projects have private PPAs AFAIK? | 00:51 |
| wgrant | IIRC that's implicit in being a P3A. | 00:51 |
| NCommander | P3A? | 00:51 |
| wgrant | PPPA. Private PPA. | 00:52 |
| NCommander | Suspose the next question is how do you get a PPPA :-) | 00:53 |
| * NCommander runs | 00:53 | |
| * NCommander also wonders how wgrant knows so much about launchpad's internals | 00:55 | |
| wgrant | As do I. | 00:55 |
| NCommander | PPPA or your knowledge of the internals of LP? | 00:56 |
| wgrant | The latter. | 00:56 |
| NCommander | I think your really kiko, and the wgrant aspect is just a split personality | 00:56 |
| * NCommander runs | 00:56 | |
| elmo | Private PPAs are still in development, but they're going to be used for security | 00:56 |
| elmo | as one example | 00:56 |
| NCommander | Very handy | 00:56 |
| * NCommander figured the security usage | 00:57 | |
| wgrant | Would it be wrong to file two duplicates of bug #2088 in order to bring the list on https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+filebug into order? | 00:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 2088 in launchpad-foundations "psycopgda reconnection and conflict handling" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2088 | 00:57 |
| wgrant | Er, hm. | 00:57 |
| wgrant | It seems indecisive. | 00:58 |
| NCommander | wgrant, er, what? | 00:59 |
| wgrant | Ah, wrong tab. | 01:00 |
| wgrant | Just noting that the list on one of the Launchpadish projectish was slightly out of order. | 01:00 |
| wgrant | But not that one. | 01:00 |
| wgrant | I have too many tabs open. | 01:00 |
| NCommander | elmo, is it possible to have a PPA work on normal builders vs. the virtual ones? (I ask only because for some PPAs like xubuntu-dev, it would be nice to see powerpc binaries for those of us who use that architecture ;-)) | 01:02 |
| wgrant | NCommander: Port Xen to PowerPC! | 01:02 |
| NCommander | wgrant, http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenPPC/Build | 01:03 |
| NCommander | already don e | 01:03 |
| wgrant | Damn. m68k, then. | 01:04 |
| NCommander | So first you want me to port Ubuntu to m68k? | 01:04 |
| NCommander | k | 01:04 |
| elmo | NCommander: not being funny, but didn't we have this discussion already? | 01:05 |
| NCommander | No, that discussion was using qemu | 01:05 |
| elmo | NCommander: because PPAs can install their own packages as build dependencies, it's a firm requirement that they use a strong virtual sandboxed enviroment | 01:05 |
| NCommander | Right, I know that, for general usage | 01:06 |
| NCommander | I was just noting that I actually use Xubuntu (server install, then xubuntu-desktop) on my PPC, and its kinda anonying I can't use the beta packages right out of the box on it | 01:07 |
| elmo | (btw, Xen/PowerPC has hardware requirements that we don't meet) | 01:09 |
| NCommander | ah | 01:09 |
| NCommander | THat explains that and ends that discussion ;-) | 01:09 |
| NCommander | Man, I'd thought that PPC was totally dead, but there are 2962 active Ubuntu PPC machines | 01:10 |
| elmo | NCommander: sure, I appreciate it's unideal, and I'd love to be able to support !x86 arches for PPA someday, but honestly, I don't know when anyone's going to get the time to explore alternatives | 01:10 |
| NCommander | elmo, I'll probably look into it once LP is open | 01:10 |
| * NCommander finds it amusing he has or has access to every Ubuntu port | 01:11 | |
| * wgrant cries. | 01:16 | |
| * _Zeus_ backs off... | 01:16 | |
| wgrant | I'm trying to file bugs on the DSSP<->Product linkage pages. | 01:16 |
| wgrant | But I keep finding more. | 01:16 |
| wgrant | Not more bugs, more pages. | 01:16 |
| wgrant | I think all 6 that I've found so far can have a bug reported on pretty much every element. | 01:18 |
| wgrant | So far I've found <DSSP>/+edit-packaging, <DSSP>/+packaging, <Product>/+packages, <Product>/+distributions, <ProductSeries>/+ubuntupkg, <ProductSeries>/+addpackage | 01:21 |
| wgrant | So there are three instances of each of the two types of pages. | 01:21 |
| wgrant | A couple of the pages expose information about the links that isn't visible on any of the other five, nor the SP page. | 01:22 |
| NCommander | DSSP? | 01:26 |
| wgrant | DistroSeriesSourcePackage | 01:26 |
| NCommander | are you sure on addpackage | 01:28 |
| NCommander | I don't get a Permission Denied on that one | 01:28 |
| wgrant | Right, the permissions differ for ubuntupkg and addpackage. | 01:29 |
| wgrant | For no good reason that I can see. | 01:29 |
| NCommander | What's ubuntupkg? | 01:29 |
| NCommander | (no, I get Lost Something page, not permission denied) | 01:29 |
| wgrant | ProductSeries/+addpackage, not Product. | 01:29 |
| NCommander | still getting lost something | 01:30 |
| NCommander | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+addpackage | 01:30 |
| NCommander | how badly do I fail ;-) | 01:31 |
| wgrant | That's a distroseries. | 01:31 |
| NCommander | oh | 01:32 |
| NCommander | so then whats a ProductSeries vs. a DistroSeries | 01:32 |
| wgrant | Product is the old name for project. Still used internally and in places they've forgotten it in the UI. | 01:33 |
| wgrant | So a project series. | 01:34 |
| NCommander | Oh I see | 01:34 |
| NCommander | BTW, wgrant, they fixed having Releases for distributions | 01:34 |
| NCommander | https://edge.launchpad.net/nexenta/hardy - i.e. | 01:34 |
| * NCommander wishes it was possible to run a publisher instance for Nexenta, but meh :-P | 01:35 | |
| wgrant | Yep, I noticed that. | 01:37 |
| NCommander | I do hope LP gets the ability to seperate publisher from Soyuz so it would be possible for us to use LP's archive tools without having to run a seperate LP instance | 01:40 |
| NCommander | (once LP is open) | 01:40 |
| wgrant | Publisher is part of Soyuz... | 01:40 |
| NCommander | right | 01:42 |
| NCommander | Essentially, what I'm saying is having all archive functions controlled via launchpad.net, but hosting our own infrastructure | 01:42 |
| NCommander | I'm told to do that, publisher would require work to seperate it from Soyuz, or Storm would require modification to work across the internet | 01:42 |
| NCommander | ^securely | 01:43 |
| NCommander | barry, hola | 02:54 |
| NCommander | (and beuno-afk ping) | 02:54 |
| markh | I've pushed a branch to launchpad under my username (ie, lp:~mhammond/...) when I really want it under one of the groups - can I move it? | 05:40 |
| wgrant | markh: Sure, click on the edit button next to the branch's title. | 05:41 |
| markh | wgrant: ahh, I see now - thanks | 05:44 |
| nijaba | hello. I'm getting a trying to get to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/vmbuilder/trunk/revision/198 and get a "please try again error", normal? | 05:51 |
| markh | nijaba: me too on a different branch | 05:55 |
| nijaba | markh: ok, I feel better now . I know that I am not alone ;) | 05:55 |
| RAOF | Works for me, now. | 05:56 |
| markh | still not for me | 05:57 |
| jml | are there any OOPS codes? | 06:07 |
| wgrant | Loggerhead doesn't OOPS, does it? | 06:09 |
| markh | working now! | 06:10 |
| wgrant | jml: Can you please explain why I got the error that caused me to file bug #272304? | 06:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272304 in launchpad-bazaar ""User timeout caused connection failure." doesn't make sense" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272304 | 06:10 |
| jml | wgrant: nope, sorry, there's not enough info there. what were you doing? with which branch? time would also be good in case we have to check the logs. | 06:12 |
| wgrant | jml: It's still there now: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/ubuntu-cve-tracker/mainold | 06:13 |
| jml | wgrant: ok. that means that the branch timed out when being mirrored to the public area. | 06:18 |
| wgrant | jml: Ahh. Thanks. | 06:18 |
| jml | wgrant: why it timed out is another interesting question. | 06:18 |
| wgrant | It is an old knit branch. | 06:18 |
| wgrant | With an awful lot of files. | 06:18 |
| jml | well, the size per se doesn't matter | 06:19 |
| jml | it's more a question of how granular bzr's progress reporting is. | 06:19 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 06:19 |
| wgrant | I find it awful for knits. | 06:19 |
| jml | then, that's quite possibly the problem. | 06:20 |
| * wgrant might try his luck recreating that as a stacked branch. | 06:20 | |
| jml | you can trigger a re-mirror using launchpadlib (but I don't have the right incantation handy), or by doing a trivial write to the branch. | 06:20 |
| wgrant | I need to upgrade it, and an upgrade will take forever. I'll just recreate it. | 06:21 |
| wgrant | (particularly as I think it's all merged) | 06:21 |
| jml | well, upgrading your local copy and pushing won't be so bad | 06:21 |
| jml | oh, if it's merged... :) | 06:21 |
| * jml -> risotto | 06:21 | |
| wgrant | Mmm, risotto. | 06:21 |
| wgrant | It's an ongoing branch, but I think it's all in master now. | 06:22 |
| wgrant | Thanks for the help. | 06:22 |
| wgrant | Hrmph. | 06:24 |
| wgrant | It dereferenced my lp: URL. Not very nice of it. | 06:24 |
| wgrant | Created new stacked branch referring to bzr+ssh://wgrant@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-security/ubuntu-cve-tracker/master/. | 06:24 |
| wgrant | And a pretty AssertionError because of that. Yay. | 06:39 |
| jml | wgrant: is the assertion error on Launchpad or Bazaar? | 06:44 |
| wgrant | jml: LP. Complaining that my hosted branch references a non-hosted branch. It dereferenced lp:ubuntu-cve-tracker, which I passed as --stacked-on. | 06:45 |
| wgrant | I'm using the real HTTP URL for now, so it should be happier. | 06:46 |
| jml | same branch as before? | 06:47 |
| wgrant | lp:~wgrant/ubuntu-cve-tracker/main | 06:47 |
| wgrant | (the one I pointed you to earlier had been main, but I renamed it because it was sooooo slooooow and needed to die) | 06:48 |
| jml | *nod* | 06:48 |
| wgrant | Is it a bug that it dereferences the lp: URL? | 06:48 |
| jml | no. | 06:48 |
| jml | well... | 06:48 |
| jml | no. | 06:49 |
| wgrant | How is one meant to do it, then? | 06:50 |
| jml | you'd have to stack on the http url. It's possible that bzr makes it harder than it could be. | 06:51 |
| wgrant | But I don't know that the HTTP URL exists. I am a poor ignorant lp: user | 06:52 |
| jml | wgrant: oh, one of those. | 06:52 |
| jml | wgrant: well, then we'll be rolling out something soon that does it all for you magically. | 06:52 |
| wgrant | Wait. What. | 06:52 |
| wgrant | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/ubuntu-cve-tracker/main | 06:52 |
| wgrant | That makes a total of *no* sense. | 06:53 |
| jml | ok. that's definitely a bug. | 06:53 |
| * jml files | 06:53 | |
| wgrant | Thanks. | 06:53 |
| wgrant | What is a hosted branch if not something on bazaar.launchpad.net? | 06:54 |
| jml | wgrant: it's an overzealous security check. | 06:55 |
| wgrant | Apparently. | 06:56 |
| wgrant | jml: Shall I use an unstacked pack branch for now, or is there a workaround? | 06:58 |
| jml | no workaround I can think of, sorry. | 06:58 |
| jml | hmm. | 06:58 |
| jml | no. | 06:59 |
| jml | it's a security check, the whole point is I can't think of a workaround ;) | 06:59 |
| wgrant | A security check that always returns false? Bulletproof, I guess. | 07:01 |
| mwhudson | b = bzrlib.branch.Branch.open('bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wgrant/ubuntu-cve-tracker/main') | 07:02 |
| mwhudson | b.set_stacked_on_url('/~ubuntu-security/ubuntu-cve-tracker/master') | 07:02 |
| mwhudson | might work | 07:03 |
| jml | o/` or just another country o/` | 07:04 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Thanks. I'll try that. | 07:05 |
| * wgrant looks confused at jml. | 07:05 | |
| mwhudson | (this is what the automagic stacking thing will do for you) | 07:05 |
| wgrant | Does that not work yet? | 07:06 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: a phased rollout seemed sensible, in case of horrific bugs | 07:08 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Indeed, but having something that can't be used isn't an excellent method of testing. | 07:09 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: _we_ can use it | 07:09 |
| wgrant | It seems to be complaining less now, but I might not have waited long enough... | 07:09 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Ah, right. | 07:09 |
| wgrant | Yay, it worked. Thanks mwhudson, jml. | 07:09 |
| mwhudson | np | 07:09 |
| Hew | Hi. I'm trying to update the bug status/milestone/comment of a bug, but I get this error: "Application error. Unauthenticated user POSTing to page that requires authentication.". I've tried pressing back and trying again, but it refuses to let me comment. I'm using edge. | 08:17 |
| wgrant | Hew: Try logging in. You may have been logged out by viewing a Launchpad feed. | 08:19 |
| Hew | wgrant: Thanks, I had indeed been logged out for some reason. | 08:21 |
| wgrant | Viewing feeds seems to destroy your session at the moment; I believe it's being worked on. | 08:22 |
| Hew | wgrant: No worries, these things have to be expected when on launchpad-beta. What is a "feed" though? | 08:25 |
| wgrant | Hew: An RSS or Atom (I forget which) feed. Does that make more sense? | 08:25 |
| Hew | wgrant: Yes, even though I don't view feeds (unless firefox is pulling it down in the background or something). | 08:27 |
| mwhudson | the fix for this has landed, btw | 08:30 |
| mwhudson | so it should be fixed on edge pretty soon | 08:30 |
| Hew | mwhudson: Sounds good :-) | 08:31 |
| mwhudson | hm, should be fixed on edge already, actually | 08:32 |
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| attila_lendvai | hi! so, launchpad is for opensource software... but what if i wanted to buy it as a service for a company? is there a chance i could get a cheap rent for a low-traffic service? | 12:50 |
| Hobbsee | attila_lendvai: ask mrevell about that, during a european workday. | 13:10 |
| attila_lendvai | Hobbsee: thanks! | 13:12 |
| Hobbsee | attila_lendvai: you're welcome! | 13:12 |
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| yarko | are there any known issues currently w/ Launchpad source view? | 17:40 |
| yarko | (I'm getting repeated "Problem connecting to the Launchpad server.... ) | 17:41 |
| yarko | ...this is for better than the last 1/2 hour. | 17:41 |
| yarko | I just checked and am getting this on more than one project... | 17:43 |
| yarko | I believe there's a problem w/ the source server... | 17:44 |
| yarko | Is anyone else experiencing server problems w/ Launchpad? | 17:51 |
| _steven_ | I get an error when browsing source online | 17:51 |
| yarko | I just merged from one tree, and wound up with NO FILES (everything deleted) | 17:51 |
| yarko | I tried browsing, and got an error also | 17:51 |
| yarko | I tried browsing in another project - same thing, an online error | 17:52 |
| insomninja | I seem to have problems to connect to the lp server and was told to drop a notification here | 18:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | How long is it before bugs that were marked for expiration actually expire? | 18:57 |
| persia | tgm4883_laptop: At least for Ubuntu, they don't actually expire. This was turned off as it annoyed too many people. | 19:10 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ah | 19:10 |
| tgm4883_laptop | which is interesting, since we have a lot of incomplete bugs that aren't expiring, which is annoying me ;) | 19:11 |
| tgm4883_laptop | is there another way to get rid of them? | 19:11 |
| laga | hello. i accidentally dput something to regular ubuntu instead of to my PPA. of course, the upload was rejected. now i can't upload to the PPA because it claims the source is already in ubuntu/intrepid. but it's not, it was rejected. | 19:24 |
| NCommander | barry, ping | 19:32 |
| NCommander | Are there any dogfood administrators online? | 20:12 |
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| ketilwaa | I can not connect to Bazaar on LP via browser at the moment. Known problem? | 20:55 |
| rsc_ | hey guys. is it possible to get the HEAD revision of my project's trunk downloadable as a .tar.gz? | 21:23 |
| rsc_ | or, how do i put something in my new project's "downlaods" section? | 21:23 |
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| spm | ketilwaa: should be working now | 21:57 |
| ketilwaa | spm: Thanks, I just noticed. | 22:02 |
| exarkun | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/49 says to choose "Delete branch" in the actions menu | 22:05 |
| exarkun | I can't recognize anything that might be an actions menu on https://code.launchpad.net/~exarkun/pyopenssl/thread-safety | 22:05 |
| exarkun | How can I delete that branch? | 22:06 |
| tgm4883_laptop | exarkun, to the right of ~exarkun/pyopenssl/thread-safety, isn't there a pink dot with a - on it? | 22:19 |
| exarkun | tgm4883_laptop: Indeed there is. | 22:21 |
| exarkun | And hovering it, I see the title is "Delete branch", so I suppose that's it :) | 22:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | that should be the delete button | 22:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yep, I had trouble finding it when lp changed looks too | 22:21 |
| exarkun | I'm sure this isn't the ideal forum for usability feedback, but man, that's obscure :) | 22:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yea could be | 22:22 |
| * tgm4883_laptop is just a lp user | 22:22 | |
| mterry | I have a project that uses translations in LP. Is there an easy way to get update po files than the 'request a download' button? Like, is there an rsync line I can run? | 22:29 |
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