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_Zeus_i really wish i could set the importance...00:00
maco!bugcontrol | _Zeus_00:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bugcontrol00:00
macodoh00:00
macohttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl ...i think00:00
_Zeus_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/27231800:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272318 in ubiquity "Install screen does not fit the screen" [Undecided,New]00:01
macoi have spent way too much time in the bug section of the wiki lately00:01
macowas just looking at that one00:01
_Zeus_i asked for a screenshot or more info (report was lacking)00:01
_Zeus_should i set it to incomplete?00:01
_Zeus_until he gives more info00:01
macoyes00:01
macoask for his resolution as well00:01
_Zeus_ok00:01
macoand i'll add it to my list of usability bugs00:02
macotrying to make a list for a hugday00:02
_Zeus_ah00:02
_Zeus_maco: are you on #ubuntu-bugs-announce?00:03
maco_Zeus_: no, i just keep the newest bugs page open, go through all the ones i think i can understand, and then refresh00:04
_Zeus_ah00:06
_Zeus_what is the newest bugs page?00:07
hggdh_Zeus_, the normal page for bugs in Ubuntu -- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs00:10
hggdhjust change the sort order00:10
_Zeus_k got it00:11
uncan someone here help me with the openoffice.org-writer2latex rift..... debian pkg didn't work either...00:11
untried a debdiff, but cannot get writer2latex build-dep00:12
_Zeus_what do i do with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/272306 ?00:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272306 in openssh "apt-get doesn't work properly on ssh-ed pc" [Undecided,New]00:12
_Zeus_!support | un00:12
ubottuun: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org00:12
_Zeus_i really don't think that00:13
_Zeus_*s a but in openssh like he reported it00:13
un_Zeus_, lol... no one in that channel is gonna even see my line the traffic is so high... crap...00:13
_Zeus_sorry, but that's because those people are following the rules00:13
_Zeus_like you should00:13
* un *sighs*00:16
_Zeus_did i take the correct course of action here?00:16
_Zeus_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/27230600:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272306 in openssh "apt-get doesn't work properly on ssh-ed pc" [Undecided,Incomplete]00:16
hggdhhum00:17
hggdhI would ask for output from the apt-get run, and what version of Ubuntu he is running00:18
_Zeus_ty00:18
hggdh_Zeus_, it does not hurst to begin the dialog with something in the line of "thankyou for reporting this bug", etc, etc00:18
bdmurray_Zeus_: maybe you could ask before doing it?00:18
hggdhs/hurst/hurt/00:19
_Zeus_bdmurray: ask what?00:19
bdmurray_Zeus_: something along the lines of "I'm going to add this comment to the bug does that sound alright?"00:19
_Zeus_oh, haha good point00:20
_Zeus_sry00:21
_Zeus_i need to remember to say thanks in the future00:21
hggdh_Zeus_, yes, please. They are reporting an issue on their side. Maintaining courtesy helps a lot.00:22
_Zeus_what should I do here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/20745400:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 207454 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox is VERY slow rendering pragprog.com; becomes almost unusable" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:23
_Zeus_the bug was fixed by them changing something in their site, but that's no excuse for the fact that firefox crashed on it00:23
_Zeus_how can we send that upstream to the mozdevs?00:23
hggdh_Zeus_, ideally -- given that there apparently is enough information in the bug  -- you can try to prepare a test case that shows the bug00:26
hggdh(or, first of all, search mozilla for a hit on this)00:26
_Zeus_i can't find anything on bugzilla00:27
hggdhthen you can open a bug upstream & link it here00:28
_Zeus_upstream as in at bugzilla00:28
_Zeus_does anyone have existing ties at bugzilla?00:28
hggdhprobably. But all you should need is to register there00:29
macobdmurray: can a11y be made an "official" tag?00:32
hggdhjust in case, you can check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs?action=show&redirect=DebuggingFirefox to verify if something else would be needed00:32
macobdmurray: accessibility isn't exactly the same as usability00:33
bdmurraymaco: That sounds reasonable to me.00:37
macobdmurray: k, should i add it to the wiki?00:37
_Zeus_what is a11y?00:37
hggdhmaco, yes, why not?00:37
maco_Zeus_: accessibility00:38
bdmurraymaco: that'd be great, I think e-mailing the bugsquad too so others know to use it and when would be quite helpful!00:38
_Zeus_ah, ok.  that doesn't really make sense00:38
_Zeus_:P00:38
hggdh_Zeus_, what does not make sense?00:39
_Zeus_a11y=accessibility00:39
_Zeus_it's probably something i don't know00:39
hggdh_Zeus_, count the letters ;-)00:40
_Zeus_ahh00:41
_Zeus_now i get it00:41
hggdh:-) some of them get to be difficult, though00:41
maco_Zeus_: just like i18n = internationalization and l10n = localization00:41
_Zeus_whoa.00:41
_Zeus_are all tags like that?00:41
macobdmurray: doh, i are not allowed to edit this page00:42
_Zeus_or only the long ones00:42
hggdhmaco, did you login?00:42
macohggdh: yes, but maybe because i'm not on bug control?00:42
maco_Zeus_: just really long ones00:42
hggdhno, it is not required that you be a member of bugcontrol to edit the wiki00:43
hggdhwhat is the URL?00:43
maco_Zeus_: people get tired of typing > 10 letters for one word after a while :P00:43
macoi was logged in...it looks like it unlogged me in00:43
macoi mean, i was logged in and able to hit Edit00:44
macoand then once i hit Save i was logged out00:44
hggdhweird00:44
_Zeus_i really want to get on bugcontrol :(00:45
hggdhanyway, if you changed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags, I cannot see it00:45
hggdh_Zeus_, experience is a pre-req00:45
* maco is trying again00:46
macook it worked this time00:46
hggdhsmall typo00:46
hggdhyou did not close the line00:47
hggdhbut otherwise, good, thank you00:47
macoclose the line?00:47
macothe table has its finishing bar there...00:47
hggdhdisplay the page again, you will see that the a11y and ximerama are sharing the same box00:48
hggdhxinerama, I mean, sorry00:48
macoer...no they're not00:49
hggdhcool, then we found another firefox-3 bug...00:49
macoworks in my ff-300:50
macothat'd be in hardy00:51
macodunno what you're using00:51
hggdhIntrepid00:51
macomk00:51
hggdhmaco,, see http://imagebin.ca/view/CBEjBA.html00:54
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_Zeus_what do you guys make of this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/27231801:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272318 in ubiquity "Install screen does not fit the screen" [Undecided,Incomplete]01:09
bdmurray_Zeus_: it's a valid bug and Colin Watson one of the ubiquity maintainers will be on it01:10
macohggdh|away: it displays the same as mine (that is, with the line) on crimsun's intrepid system01:11
_Zeus_bdmurray: i know that, i meant, what should i ask for?01:11
bdmurray_Zeus_: I think the screenshots will be enough to move forward01:11
_Zeus_great.  I ahve never seen that many partitions!01:12
bdmurrayyeah, that's different01:12
_Zeus_what's different?01:13
_Zeus_you mean unique?01:13
bdmurrayokay, unique01:13
_Zeus_what do you guys take on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/27233101:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272331 in nvidia-settings "installing nvidia-settings doesn't add gksu to the launcher command" [Undecided,New]01:19
_Zeus_i can confirm it, but how can i tell if it requires superuser privileges?01:19
RAOFIt doesn't.01:20
RAOFWell, one piece of its functionality does (writing xorg.conf).  But I don't use that at all.01:20
_Zeus_never mind, i just found an error that shows up when running as normal user that doesn't as su01:20
_Zeus_RAOF: but that's still part of it's functionality, so i'm going to confirm the bug01:21
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hggdhmaco, go figure... and, I am sorry -- I am running Web Browser (or abrowser, or whatever), but it should not make much of a difference. Me thinks01:45
macohggdh: hey another layer of freaky, awesome!01:45
hggdhLOL01:46
hggdhso much for trustung a browser01:48
LimCoreThere is no package name 'khotnewstuff' published in Ubuntu01:55
LimCorethis really should be made more user friendly imho:  when user input name of executable, then corresponding package is selected - to help find it.01:57
RAOFLimCore: "apt-file search khotnewstuff"01:58
LimCoreRAOF: can we for now atleast add this hint to current error message?  Lots of users will just quit otherwise if they are not regular bug reporters imho01:59
RAOFLimCore: Where is this error message?01:59
LimCorein https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug  when in Package In entered for example khotnewstuff instead of  kdelibs4c2a02:00
LimCorebtw, simple apt-file search khotnewstuff, for this case, outputs too much. perhaps:   apt-file search khotnewstuff | grep /bin/02:01
LimCoreplease confirm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/27234002:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272340 in kdebase-runtime "khotnewstuff does not start - Error parsing providers list." [Undecided,New]02:21
LimCorecan I get a second box, install other ubuntu there, and then self-confirm bugs I found if they are on both boxes?02:22
hggdhLimCore, it would be better to have independent confirmation02:30
hggdhbut I can confirm...02:32
ahmadtarekHi all, I think https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cython/+bug/272347 should be changed to wishlist.02:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272347 in cython "Please update cython to 0.9.8.1.1" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:34
_Zeus_agreed02:34
greg-gahmadtarek: a list of specific bugs which it fixes or new features would be nice02:48
ahmadtarekgreg-g: here or in the bug report02:48
ahmadtarek?02:48
greg-gin the bug report, please02:48
ahmadtarekgreg-g: done02:54
greg-gahmadtarek: done, as well :)02:55
greg-gthanks for helping02:55
ElbrusI filled bug 260464 a month ago, but nobody has acknowledge that one, what can I do?04:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260464 in fpc "fp-units-gtk2 has undefined references due to GtkFileSystemError removal from GTK" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26046404:10
ElbrusI provided a patch and linked to the solution at upstream04:10
mrooneybug 263566 must be a duplicate of some Invalid bug...04:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 263566 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox 3: Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Update options disabled" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26356604:36
greg-gElbrus: you should ask in #ubuntu-motu, they would be best to help you with getting patches accepted04:41
Elbrusgreg-g: thanks for the suggestion04:42
greg-gElbrus: np, thanks and good luck!04:44
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[fFf]someone can give me an opinion about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/27229309:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272293 in ubuntu "[hardy] Key repeat gets randomly turned off." [Undecided,New]09:43
[fFf]thanks09:43
[fFf]anyone here?10:46
[fFf] someone can give me an opinion about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/27229311:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272293 in ubuntu "[hardy] Key repeat gets randomly turned off." [Undecided,Confirmed]11:19
pochubdmurray: hi! what do you think about having launchpad-gm-scripts in the archive?12:25
Hobbseepochu: how often would it change?12:26
Hobbseepochu: those scripts change when LP changes, don't they?12:27
pochuHobbsee: good question. I don't know. bdmurray?12:27
Hobbseepochu: I can't imagine they'd last over 1 development cycle.12:27
Hobbseeeven that would be pretty optimistic...12:27
pochumessage: lp_reporter_comments.user.js: fix xpath for reporter with new lp rollout12:28
pochulooks like12:28
pochuHobbsee: I hadn't thought about that, thanks12:28
pochubdmurray: nevermind12:28
Hobbseepochu: nice idea, but i think you'd be up for many SRUs :)12:28
pochuI could try to avoid it being in stable releases too :)12:29
Hobbseepochu: do you have the bzr link handy, btw?12:30
Hobbseewait.  found it.  nvm.12:31
murdokCould someone please confirm it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/27245713:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272457 in firefox-3.0 "By default, firefox won't open some txt files" [Undecided,New]13:27
_Zeus_done13:29
_Zeus_confirmed13:29
murdok;D13:33
murdokthanks13:33
murdokWhat is needed to change the bug importance?13:34
pochumurdok: ubuntu-bugcontrol powah14:30
murdokah i see :)14:33
Rocket2DMncan i get some feedback on bug 249328 - I think it should be closed b/c the problem cant exactly be fixed14:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249328 in squashfs "Unhelpful SQUASHFS error messages" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24932814:48
Rocket2DMni posted a nice little essay in there in July14:48
umangmeBug #272351 is for "Wishlist" as the title indicates so.15:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272351 in kdebase "[Wishlist] Option to calculate/compare md5 checksums in the dolphin context menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27235115:52
umangmeEven bug #272150 seems to be a "Wishlist" bug15:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272150 in hal "Don't run bluetooth applet when no bluetooth hardware is present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27215015:54
umangmeI just reported a "Wishlist" bug. Please mark it Wishlist. Bug #27250316:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272503 in hplip "[Wishlist] Get a "Printer out of paper" Message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27250316:12
pochubdmurray: hey, what's lp_bingo.user.js useful for?16:42
techno_freakpochu, during Global Bug Jam there was a bingo game, think it might still work16:47
IsTI37hello16:47
IsTI37Anyone here logged in in launchpad and wants to nominate a bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/272510 In intrepid they should add a Panel refresh command somewhere.16:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272510 in gnome-panel "gnome panel crashes and no way to restart it without console" [Undecided,New]16:48
pochutechno_freak: oh, didn't know that, thanks16:48
pochutechno_freak: I'll unload it though, those pop-ups annoy me :)16:48
techno_freakpochu, welcome. Turn that script on and visit some bug pages, you might know what it does16:48
techno_freakpochu, ha ha, ok :)16:48
[fFf]I'm having a problem with Bug #27252217:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272522 in nautilus "Connect to server dialog forgets username to FTP server" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27252217:52
[fFf]Launchpad don't recognize the nautilus-connect-server package17:53
[fFf]anyone knows where I'm wrong?17:53
persia[fFf]: There is no "nautilus-connect-server" package.  Try `dpkg -S $(which nautilus-connect-server)`17:55
persiaYou should be able to user this recipe to determine the package for any program.  Please add it to your grimoire.17:56
[fFf]the output: /usr/bin/nautilus-connect-server17:56
greg-gthe part right before that, "nautius"17:57
greg-gnautilus, of course ;)17:57
greg-gLaunchpad goes by Source package which sometimes produce multiple binaries17:58
greg-gie: the Nautilus source package produces nautilus-connect-server, nautilus, etc17:58
tuxmaniacbtw, I am now logged in from Intrepid Alpha 6 Live CD17:59
[fFf]I've done the search with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search17:59
tuxmaniacand two things I noticed. One is that firefox on first start up somehow doesnt know to arrange itself on the desktop, and other is .... My wifi light is working again. Yay!17:59
tuxmaniacseems like a problem of compiz as once i disable compiz things work fine!18:00
[fFf]No packages matching 'nautilus-connect-server' are published in Ubuntu.18:00
tuxmaniacand yes.. I am really happy that my wifi light is going to blink again after being dormant for 1 year18:00
greg-g[fFf]: right, "Launchpad goes by Source package which sometimes produce multiple binaries "18:01
greg-gLP goes by Source package, not the executables18:01
greg-g[fFf]: the full output of the command you ran is "nautilus: /usr/bin/nautilus-connect-server" right?18:01
[fFf]yes18:01
[fFf]where I should look for?18:02
greg-git is saying "nautilus" is the source package which produced the file "/usr/bin/nautilus-connect-server"18:02
[fFf]ok18:02
greg-gthat is telling you to report the bug against Nautilus18:02
[fFf]ok18:02
persiaNo, actually it is saying that "nautilus" is the binary package that produces the file "/usr/bin/nautilus-connect-server".18:02
greg-gpersia: not source?18:02
persiagreg-g: Nope.  Binary package.  LP is smart enough to translate binary package names into source package names though.18:03
greg-gpersia: gotcha, thanks18:03
persiagreg-g: In this case, the source is also nautilus, but the nautilus source package produces the nautilus, nautius-dbg, libnautilus-extension1, libnautilus-extension-dev, and nautilus-data packages.18:04
persias/packages.$/binary packages./18:04
persiaIn general, `apt-cache showsrc ${binary-package} | head -1` ought to provide the source package name, but that's not usually required for LP input.18:06
persia(unless you are constructing URLs by hand, but I understand that this is deprecated)18:06
[fFf]so, which package should I put in the bug report? Nautilus?18:08
greg-gpersia: awesome, thanks18:08
greg-g[fFf]: yes18:08
[fFf]persia and greg-g: thanks very much for exps18:09
persia[fFf]: Thanks for helping to triage the bugs18:09
greg-gwhat persia said18:09
LimCoreoh god...18:22
LimCorethis is getting epic... 3rd time this yera kwallet lost all my passwords! :<18:22
LimCorethis: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/26067618:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260676 in kdeutils "kded using 100% cpu (on kmail start) can not access kwallet ; kwalletmanager shows 0 passwords" [Undecided,Incomplete]18:23
dennis101010_http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/7880287/19:10
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