[00:00] <_Zeus_> i really wish i could set the importance...
[00:00] <maco> !bugcontrol | _Zeus_
[00:00] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugcontrol
[00:00] <maco> doh
[00:00] <maco> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl ...i think
[00:01] <_Zeus_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/272318
[00:01] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272318 in ubiquity "Install screen does not fit the screen" [Undecided,New]
[00:01] <maco> i have spent way too much time in the bug section of the wiki lately
[00:01] <maco> was just looking at that one
[00:01] <_Zeus_> i asked for a screenshot or more info (report was lacking)
[00:01] <_Zeus_> should i set it to incomplete?
[00:01] <_Zeus_> until he gives more info
[00:01] <maco> yes
[00:01] <maco> ask for his resolution as well
[00:01] <_Zeus_> ok
[00:02] <maco> and i'll add it to my list of usability bugs
[00:02] <maco> trying to make a list for a hugday
[00:02] <_Zeus_> ah
[00:03] <_Zeus_> maco: are you on #ubuntu-bugs-announce?
[00:04] <maco> _Zeus_: no, i just keep the newest bugs page open, go through all the ones i think i can understand, and then refresh
[00:06] <_Zeus_> ah
[00:07] <_Zeus_> what is the newest bugs page?
[00:10] <hggdh> _Zeus_, the normal page for bugs in Ubuntu -- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[00:10] <hggdh> just change the sort order
[00:11] <_Zeus_> k got it
[00:11] <un> can someone here help me with the openoffice.org-writer2latex rift..... debian pkg didn't work either...
[00:12] <un> tried a debdiff, but cannot get writer2latex build-dep
[00:12] <_Zeus_> what do i do with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/272306 ?
[00:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272306 in openssh "apt-get doesn't work properly on ssh-ed pc" [Undecided,New]
[00:12] <_Zeus_> !support | un
[00:12] <ubottu> un: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[00:13] <_Zeus_> i really don't think that
[00:13] <_Zeus_> *s a but in openssh like he reported it
[00:13] <un> _Zeus_, lol... no one in that channel is gonna even see my line the traffic is so high... crap...
[00:13] <_Zeus_> sorry, but that's because those people are following the rules
[00:13] <_Zeus_> like you should
[00:16]  * un *sighs*
[00:16] <_Zeus_> did i take the correct course of action here?
[00:16] <_Zeus_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/272306
[00:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272306 in openssh "apt-get doesn't work properly on ssh-ed pc" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[00:17] <hggdh> hum
[00:18] <hggdh> I would ask for output from the apt-get run, and what version of Ubuntu he is running
[00:18] <_Zeus_> ty
[00:18] <hggdh> _Zeus_, it does not hurst to begin the dialog with something in the line of "thankyou for reporting this bug", etc, etc
[00:18] <bdmurray> _Zeus_: maybe you could ask before doing it?
[00:19] <hggdh> s/hurst/hurt/
[00:19] <_Zeus_> bdmurray: ask what?
[00:19] <bdmurray> _Zeus_: something along the lines of "I'm going to add this comment to the bug does that sound alright?"
[00:20] <_Zeus_> oh, haha good point
[00:21] <_Zeus_> sry
[00:21] <_Zeus_> i need to remember to say thanks in the future
[00:22] <hggdh> _Zeus_, yes, please. They are reporting an issue on their side. Maintaining courtesy helps a lot.
[00:22] <_Zeus_> what should I do here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/207454
[00:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 207454 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox is VERY slow rendering pragprog.com; becomes almost unusable" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[00:23] <_Zeus_> the bug was fixed by them changing something in their site, but that's no excuse for the fact that firefox crashed on it
[00:23] <_Zeus_> how can we send that upstream to the mozdevs?
[00:26] <hggdh> _Zeus_, ideally -- given that there apparently is enough information in the bug  -- you can try to prepare a test case that shows the bug
[00:26] <hggdh> (or, first of all, search mozilla for a hit on this)
[00:27] <_Zeus_> i can't find anything on bugzilla
[00:28] <hggdh> then you can open a bug upstream & link it here
[00:28] <_Zeus_> upstream as in at bugzilla
[00:28] <_Zeus_> does anyone have existing ties at bugzilla?
[00:29] <hggdh> probably. But all you should need is to register there
[00:32] <maco> bdmurray: can a11y be made an "official" tag?
[00:32] <hggdh> just in case, you can check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs?action=show&redirect=DebuggingFirefox to verify if something else would be needed
[00:33] <maco> bdmurray: accessibility isn't exactly the same as usability
[00:37] <bdmurray> maco: That sounds reasonable to me.
[00:37] <maco> bdmurray: k, should i add it to the wiki?
[00:37] <_Zeus_> what is a11y?
[00:37] <hggdh> maco, yes, why not?
[00:38] <maco> _Zeus_: accessibility
[00:38] <bdmurray> maco: that'd be great, I think e-mailing the bugsquad too so others know to use it and when would be quite helpful!
[00:38] <_Zeus_> ah, ok.  that doesn't really make sense
[00:38] <_Zeus_> :P
[00:39] <hggdh> _Zeus_, what does not make sense?
[00:39] <_Zeus_> a11y=accessibility
[00:39] <_Zeus_> it's probably something i don't know
[00:40] <hggdh> _Zeus_, count the letters ;-)
[00:41] <_Zeus_> ahh
[00:41] <_Zeus_> now i get it
[00:41] <hggdh> :-) some of them get to be difficult, though
[00:41] <maco> _Zeus_: just like i18n = internationalization and l10n = localization
[00:41] <_Zeus_> whoa.
[00:41] <_Zeus_> are all tags like that?
[00:42] <maco> bdmurray: doh, i are not allowed to edit this page
[00:42] <_Zeus_> or only the long ones
[00:42] <hggdh> maco, did you login?
[00:42] <maco> hggdh: yes, but maybe because i'm not on bug control?
[00:42] <maco> _Zeus_: just really long ones
[00:43] <hggdh> no, it is not required that you be a member of bugcontrol to edit the wiki
[00:43] <hggdh> what is the URL?
[00:43] <maco> _Zeus_: people get tired of typing > 10 letters for one word after a while :P
[00:43] <maco> i was logged in...it looks like it unlogged me in
[00:44] <maco> i mean, i was logged in and able to hit Edit
[00:44] <maco> and then once i hit Save i was logged out
[00:44] <hggdh> weird
[00:45] <_Zeus_> i really want to get on bugcontrol :(
[00:45] <hggdh> anyway, if you changed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags, I cannot see it
[00:45] <hggdh> _Zeus_, experience is a pre-req
[00:46]  * maco is trying again
[00:46] <maco> ok it worked this time
[00:46] <hggdh> small typo
[00:47] <hggdh> you did not close the line
[00:47] <hggdh> but otherwise, good, thank you
[00:47] <maco> close the line?
[00:47] <maco> the table has its finishing bar there...
[00:48] <hggdh> display the page again, you will see that the a11y and ximerama are sharing the same box
[00:48] <hggdh> xinerama, I mean, sorry
[00:49] <maco> er...no they're not
[00:49] <hggdh> cool, then we found another firefox-3 bug...
[00:50] <maco> works in my ff-3
[00:51] <maco> that'd be in hardy
[00:51] <maco> dunno what you're using
[00:51] <hggdh> Intrepid
[00:51] <maco> mk
[00:54] <hggdh> maco,, see http://imagebin.ca/view/CBEjBA.html
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[01:09] <_Zeus_> what do you guys make of this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/272318
[01:09] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272318 in ubiquity "Install screen does not fit the screen" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[01:10] <bdmurray> _Zeus_: it's a valid bug and Colin Watson one of the ubiquity maintainers will be on it
[01:11] <maco> hggdh|away: it displays the same as mine (that is, with the line) on crimsun's intrepid system
[01:11] <_Zeus_> bdmurray: i know that, i meant, what should i ask for?
[01:11] <bdmurray> _Zeus_: I think the screenshots will be enough to move forward
[01:12] <_Zeus_> great.  I ahve never seen that many partitions!
[01:12] <bdmurray> yeah, that's different
[01:13] <_Zeus_> what's different?
[01:13] <_Zeus_> you mean unique?
[01:13] <bdmurray> okay, unique
[01:19] <_Zeus_> what do you guys take on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/272331
[01:19] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272331 in nvidia-settings "installing nvidia-settings doesn't add gksu to the launcher command" [Undecided,New]
[01:19] <_Zeus_> i can confirm it, but how can i tell if it requires superuser privileges?
[01:20] <RAOF> It doesn't.
[01:20] <RAOF> Well, one piece of its functionality does (writing xorg.conf).  But I don't use that at all.
[01:20] <_Zeus_> never mind, i just found an error that shows up when running as normal user that doesn't as su
[01:21] <_Zeus_> RAOF: but that's still part of it's functionality, so i'm going to confirm the bug
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[01:45] <hggdh> maco, go figure... and, I am sorry -- I am running Web Browser (or abrowser, or whatever), but it should not make much of a difference. Me thinks
[01:45] <maco> hggdh: hey another layer of freaky, awesome!
[01:46] <hggdh> LOL
[01:48] <hggdh> so much for trustung a browser
[01:55] <LimCore> There is no package name 'khotnewstuff' published in Ubuntu
[01:57] <LimCore> this really should be made more user friendly imho:  when user input name of executable, then corresponding package is selected - to help find it.
[01:58] <RAOF> LimCore: "apt-file search khotnewstuff"
[01:59] <LimCore> RAOF: can we for now atleast add this hint to current error message?  Lots of users will just quit otherwise if they are not regular bug reporters imho
[01:59] <RAOF> LimCore: Where is this error message?
[02:00] <LimCore> in https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug  when in Package In entered for example khotnewstuff instead of  kdelibs4c2a
[02:01] <LimCore> btw, simple apt-file search khotnewstuff, for this case, outputs too much. perhaps:   apt-file search khotnewstuff | grep /bin/
[02:21] <LimCore> please confirm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/272340
[02:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272340 in kdebase-runtime "khotnewstuff does not start - Error parsing providers list." [Undecided,New]
[02:22] <LimCore> can I get a second box, install other ubuntu there, and then self-confirm bugs I found if they are on both boxes?
[02:30] <hggdh> LimCore, it would be better to have independent confirmation
[02:32] <hggdh> but I can confirm...
[02:34] <ahmadtarek> Hi all, I think https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cython/+bug/272347 should be changed to wishlist.
[02:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272347 in cython "Please update cython to 0.9.8.1.1" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[02:34] <_Zeus_> agreed
[02:48] <greg-g> ahmadtarek: a list of specific bugs which it fixes or new features would be nice
[02:48] <ahmadtarek> greg-g: here or in the bug report
[02:48] <ahmadtarek> ?
[02:48] <greg-g> in the bug report, please
[02:54] <ahmadtarek> greg-g: done
[02:55] <greg-g> ahmadtarek: done, as well :)
[02:55] <greg-g> thanks for helping
[04:10] <Elbrus> I filled bug 260464 a month ago, but nobody has acknowledge that one, what can I do?
[04:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 260464 in fpc "fp-units-gtk2 has undefined references due to GtkFileSystemError removal from GTK" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260464
[04:10] <Elbrus> I provided a patch and linked to the solution at upstream
[04:36] <mrooney> bug 263566 must be a duplicate of some Invalid bug...
[04:36] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 263566 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox 3: Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Update options disabled" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263566
[04:41] <greg-g> Elbrus: you should ask in #ubuntu-motu, they would be best to help you with getting patches accepted
[04:42] <Elbrus> greg-g: thanks for the suggestion
[04:44] <greg-g> Elbrus: np, thanks and good luck!
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[09:43] <[fFf]> someone can give me an opinion about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/272293
[09:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272293 in ubuntu "[hardy] Key repeat gets randomly turned off." [Undecided,New]
[09:43] <[fFf]> thanks
[10:46] <[fFf]> anyone here?
[11:19] <[fFf]>  someone can give me an opinion about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/272293
[11:19] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272293 in ubuntu "[hardy] Key repeat gets randomly turned off." [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:25] <pochu> bdmurray: hi! what do you think about having launchpad-gm-scripts in the archive?
[12:26] <Hobbsee> pochu: how often would it change?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> pochu: those scripts change when LP changes, don't they?
[12:27] <pochu> Hobbsee: good question. I don't know. bdmurray?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> pochu: I can't imagine they'd last over 1 development cycle.
[12:27] <Hobbsee> even that would be pretty optimistic...
[12:28] <pochu> message: lp_reporter_comments.user.js: fix xpath for reporter with new lp rollout
[12:28] <pochu> looks like
[12:28] <pochu> Hobbsee: I hadn't thought about that, thanks
[12:28] <pochu> bdmurray: nevermind
[12:28] <Hobbsee> pochu: nice idea, but i think you'd be up for many SRUs :)
[12:29] <pochu> I could try to avoid it being in stable releases too :)
[12:30] <Hobbsee> pochu: do you have the bzr link handy, btw?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> wait.  found it.  nvm.
[13:27] <murdok> Could someone please confirm it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/272457
[13:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272457 in firefox-3.0 "By default, firefox won't open some txt files" [Undecided,New]
[13:29] <_Zeus_> done
[13:29] <_Zeus_> confirmed
[13:33] <murdok> ;D
[13:33] <murdok> thanks
[13:34] <murdok> What is needed to change the bug importance?
[14:30] <pochu> murdok: ubuntu-bugcontrol powah
[14:33] <murdok> ah i see :)
[14:48] <Rocket2DMn> can i get some feedback on bug 249328 - I think it should be closed b/c the problem cant exactly be fixed
[14:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 249328 in squashfs "Unhelpful SQUASHFS error messages" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249328
[14:48] <Rocket2DMn> i posted a nice little essay in there in July
[15:52] <umangme> Bug #272351 is for "Wishlist" as the title indicates so.
[15:52] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272351 in kdebase "[Wishlist] Option to calculate/compare md5 checksums in the dolphin context menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272351
[15:54] <umangme> Even bug #272150 seems to be a "Wishlist" bug
[15:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272150 in hal "Don't run bluetooth applet when no bluetooth hardware is present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272150
[16:12] <umangme> I just reported a "Wishlist" bug. Please mark it Wishlist. Bug #272503
[16:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272503 in hplip "[Wishlist] Get a "Printer out of paper" Message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272503
[16:42] <pochu> bdmurray: hey, what's lp_bingo.user.js useful for?
[16:47] <techno_freak> pochu, during Global Bug Jam there was a bingo game, think it might still work
[16:47] <IsTI37> hello
[16:48] <IsTI37> Anyone here logged in in launchpad and wants to nominate a bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/272510 In intrepid they should add a Panel refresh command somewhere.
[16:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272510 in gnome-panel "gnome panel crashes and no way to restart it without console" [Undecided,New]
[16:48] <pochu> techno_freak: oh, didn't know that, thanks
[16:48] <pochu> techno_freak: I'll unload it though, those pop-ups annoy me :)
[16:48] <techno_freak> pochu, welcome. Turn that script on and visit some bug pages, you might know what it does
[16:48] <techno_freak> pochu, ha ha, ok :)
[17:52] <[fFf]> I'm having a problem with Bug #272522
[17:52] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272522 in nautilus "Connect to server dialog forgets username to FTP server" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272522
[17:53] <[fFf]> Launchpad don't recognize the nautilus-connect-server package
[17:53] <[fFf]> anyone knows where I'm wrong?
[17:55] <persia> [fFf]: There is no "nautilus-connect-server" package.  Try `dpkg -S $(which nautilus-connect-server)`
[17:56] <persia> You should be able to user this recipe to determine the package for any program.  Please add it to your grimoire.
[17:56] <[fFf]> the output: /usr/bin/nautilus-connect-server
[17:57] <greg-g> the part right before that, "nautius"
[17:57] <greg-g> nautilus, of course ;)
[17:58] <greg-g> Launchpad goes by Source package which sometimes produce multiple binaries
[17:58] <greg-g> ie: the Nautilus source package produces nautilus-connect-server, nautilus, etc
[17:59] <tuxmaniac> btw, I am now logged in from Intrepid Alpha 6 Live CD
[17:59] <[fFf]> I've done the search with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search
[17:59] <tuxmaniac> and two things I noticed. One is that firefox on first start up somehow doesnt know to arrange itself on the desktop, and other is .... My wifi light is working again. Yay!
[18:00] <tuxmaniac> seems like a problem of compiz as once i disable compiz things work fine!
[18:00] <[fFf]> No packages matching 'nautilus-connect-server' are published in Ubuntu.
[18:00] <tuxmaniac> and yes.. I am really happy that my wifi light is going to blink again after being dormant for 1 year
[18:01] <greg-g> [fFf]: right, "Launchpad goes by Source package which sometimes produce multiple binaries "
[18:01] <greg-g> LP goes by Source package, not the executables
[18:01] <greg-g> [fFf]: the full output of the command you ran is "nautilus: /usr/bin/nautilus-connect-server" right?
[18:01] <[fFf]> yes
[18:02] <[fFf]> where I should look for?
[18:02] <greg-g> it is saying "nautilus" is the source package which produced the file "/usr/bin/nautilus-connect-server"
[18:02] <[fFf]> ok
[18:02] <greg-g> that is telling you to report the bug against Nautilus
[18:02] <[fFf]> ok
[18:02] <persia> No, actually it is saying that "nautilus" is the binary package that produces the file "/usr/bin/nautilus-connect-server".
[18:02] <greg-g> persia: not source?
[18:03] <persia> greg-g: Nope.  Binary package.  LP is smart enough to translate binary package names into source package names though.
[18:03] <greg-g> persia: gotcha, thanks
[18:04] <persia> greg-g: In this case, the source is also nautilus, but the nautilus source package produces the nautilus, nautius-dbg, libnautilus-extension1, libnautilus-extension-dev, and nautilus-data packages.
[18:04] <persia> s/packages.$/binary packages./
[18:06] <persia> In general, `apt-cache showsrc ${binary-package} | head -1` ought to provide the source package name, but that's not usually required for LP input.
[18:06] <persia> (unless you are constructing URLs by hand, but I understand that this is deprecated)
[18:08] <[fFf]> so, which package should I put in the bug report? Nautilus?
[18:08] <greg-g> persia: awesome, thanks
[18:08] <greg-g> [fFf]: yes
[18:09] <[fFf]> persia and greg-g: thanks very much for exps
[18:09] <persia> [fFf]: Thanks for helping to triage the bugs
[18:09] <greg-g> what persia said
[18:22] <LimCore> oh god...
[18:22] <LimCore> this is getting epic... 3rd time this yera kwallet lost all my passwords! :<
[18:23] <LimCore> this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/260676
[18:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 260676 in kdeutils "kded using 100% cpu (on kmail start) can not access kwallet ; kwalletmanager shows 0 passwords" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[19:10] <dennis101010_> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/7880287/
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