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[02:06] <rockyrock> hi guys, i can't setup mythbuntu in my Ubuntu or even when i use the live version. I get this message at the end of "Launch MythTV setup".
[02:06] <rockyrock> what's the problem??
[02:07] <rockyrock> I have ubuntu hardy, and i installed all needed packages like: Mythbuntu Control Center + mysql ....etc
[02:07] <rockyrock> i don't know what's the problem!!!
[02:08] <rockyrock> i also get the same result when i try to setup it in the Live CD of mythbuntu 8.04.1
[02:24] <rockyrock> sorry i didn't mention the message!!! The message is this: "Cannot login to database"
[02:24] <rockyrock> :)
[02:24] <superm1> with an existing backend?
[02:25] <superm1> this was just a frontend you were setting up?
[02:25] <rockyrock> yeah
[02:26] <superm1> so that means that you dont have the password right on the frontend
[02:26] <superm1> or the backend isn't listening for connections on mysql
[02:26] <superm1> test the connection using mcc
[02:26] <superm1> on the mysql tab
[02:28] <rockyrock> superm1: what's mysql tab?? or where can i find it?
[02:28] <superm1> open mythbuntu control center
[02:28] <superm1> and it's on one of the side tabs
[02:29] <superm1> mythtv configuration tab actually
[02:29] <rockyrock> i found it, but how to do mcc??
[02:31] <superm1> mcc just stands for mythbuntu control centre
[02:31] <rockyrock> when i click "Test mysql connection", i get Failure!
[02:32] <rockyrock> i'm sure i have the right password, cuz i got it from here: /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[02:33] <rockyrock> i will tell what i've done. I installed the packages, then directly i clicked "launch mythTV setup" in mcc. I didn't do any setup to backend or something!!!
[02:33] <superm1> okay so then make sure that mysql port is open
[02:33] <superm1> on the backend
[02:34] <superm1> turn on the "Mysql" service on that box
[02:34] <rockyrock> how to do that?
[02:34] <superm1> open up mcc on that box
[02:34] <superm1> and its on the services tab
[02:35] <rockyrock> i did
[02:35] <rockyrock> some kind of installation is running
[02:35] <superm1> have you restarted since then?
[02:36] <rockyrock> what do you mean by "restarted"?? The computer or the mcc??
[02:36] <superm1> the computer
[02:36] <superm1> i dont remember if it takes effect immediately
[02:36] <rockyrock> should i go to restart now?
[02:36] <superm1> well you can check if the port is open now
[02:36] <superm1> netstat -ant | grep 3306
[02:36] <rockyrock> how?
[02:37] <rockyrock> i got this: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:3306            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[02:37] <superm1> okay so it's listening
[02:37] <rockyrock> what to do now?
[02:37] <superm1> hum
[02:37] <superm1> cry?
[02:38] <rockyrock> :'(
[02:38] <rockyrock> good?
[02:38] <superm1> well on the frontend, did you make sure you entered the right ip address for the backend?
[02:38] <superm1> in that mcc instance?
[02:40] <rockyrock> I'm not even sure if i have the backend installed and setup properly
[02:40] <rockyrock> !
[02:40] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about
[02:40] <rockyrock> how can i check it?
[02:40] <superm1> well if you cant connect to the sql database, that's a moot point
[02:41] <rockyrock> superm1: so...?
[02:41] <rockyrock> i feel that the problem is from the backend. How can i check if it's installed and running properly?
[02:42] <superm1> rockyrock, well the backend doesn't matter if sql doesnt work
[02:42] <superm1> because it has to connect to sql first before the backen
[02:42] <superm1> dd
[02:42] <rockyrock> so??
[02:42] <superm1> so answer my other question..
[02:43] <superm1> are you sure you entered the right ip address on the frontend mcc?
[02:43] <rockyrock> which one?
[02:43] <rockyrock> no i'm not
[02:43] <rockyrock> i don't know what you're talking about!!!
[02:43] <superm1> okay so in mcc on the frontend
[02:43] <superm1> it asks for mysql user, mysql pass
[02:43] <superm1> mysql database
[02:43] <superm1> and ip address (or hostname)
[02:43] <superm1> that ip address is the one of the backend
[02:44] <rockyrock> you mean Mysql server, righ?
[02:44] <superm1> well they're the same box aren't they?
[02:44] <superm1> should be the same ip addresss..
[02:44] <rockyrock> yeah i have only one computer
[02:44] <rockyrock> Mysql server: localhost
[02:44] <superm1> wait this is the same computer?
[02:45] <superm1> as in frontend and backend on same box?
[02:45] <rockyrock> yeah
[02:46] <superm1> oh that's a difference scenario
[02:46] <rockyrock> thnx god
[02:46] <rockyrock> :)
[02:46] <superm1> if you dont have anything else actually working yet here, just redo your install
[02:46] <superm1> it's a lot faster than debugging what the problem was
[02:47] <rockyrock> i get always the same result, even when i boot from the Live CD
[02:47] <superm1> you wont be able to do it off the live cd
[02:47] <superm1> the sql service isn't running
[02:47] <superm1> it's only running after you finish install
[02:48] <rockyrock> ok i didn't know that.
[02:48] <rockyrock> but i want it to run on my Ubuntu Hardy
[02:48] <rockyrock> i don't want to install other distro
[02:49] <superm1> okay well then you have to debug what went wrong here
[02:49] <superm1> most likely you chose a root password when you installed the packages
[02:49] <rockyrock> yeah
[02:49] <superm1> and that throws things off
[02:49] <superm1> dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[02:49] <superm1> and enter it when its asked for
[02:50] <rockyrock> ok, i got a question: On what host does the mysql server reside?
[02:51] <superm1> localhost
[02:52] <rockyrock> next, asks for the root? i pressed enter. Now it asks for the password
[02:52] <rockyrock> what to do?
[02:52] <rockyrock> enter any password?
[02:52] <bluntz> can I watch tv live with mythtv?
[02:53] <superm1> enter the root mysql password you chose before
[02:53] <superm1> bluntz, sure
[02:54] <bluntz> ok with a cable tv tuner?
[02:54] <rockyrock> Q: Will you be using other computers running mythTV? Yes or No?
[02:54] <superm1> sure
[02:54] <superm1> bluntz, ^
[02:54] <superm1> rockyrock, well will you?
[02:54] <rockyrock> no
[02:54] <superm1> then answer no :)
[02:55] <rockyrock> i did, and it disappeared.
[02:55] <rockyrock> what to do next?
[02:55] <superm1> run dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[02:55] <superm1> keep all the defaults
[02:55] <superm1> and then try running mythtv-setup
[02:55] <rockyrock> it gave me this msg:  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ OK ]
[02:57] <bluntz> I always manage to screw up the setup
[02:58] <bluntz> and the tv listings especially never worked
[03:00] <bluntz> can it be setup to work without the listings?
[03:00] <superm1> sure
[03:00] <superm1> makes less sense
[03:00] <rockyrock> superm1: when i clicked mythtv-setup, some "them image processing" happened and now i'm in the Main. I have these categories: General, Capture card...etc
[03:00] <superm1> rockyrock, okay so it worked
[03:00] <bluntz> I couldnt find a free alternative
[03:00] <superm1> carry on
[03:00] <superm1> bluntz, depends where in the world you live
[03:00] <rockyrock> superm1: how to detect my card?
[03:00] <bluntz> us
[03:01] <superm1> bluntz, in the US & canada, you can use schedules direct or over the air listings
[03:01] <superm1> bluntz, or nothing at all
[03:01] <superm1> bluntz, your call
[03:01] <bluntz> do you have a walkthru listed anywhere?
[03:02] <superm1> look at the pdf on the website
[03:02] <superm1> it will walk you through mythtv-setup
[03:02] <bluntz> I  used a video for mythdora last time and got close
[03:03] <tgm4883_laptop> and by nothing
[03:03] <tgm4883_laptop> he means you have to setup none
[03:03] <superm1> theres a video for mythbuntu out there too, but the mythtv-setup part is the same
[03:03] <bluntz> and 1 more
[03:04] <bluntz> can it be run without it taking over the whole sys?
[03:05] <bluntz> would be nice if someone made a live mythtv distro
[03:05] <bluntz> hehe
[03:07] <superm1> bluntz, doesn't make sense because you need to have a disk for buffer at very minimum
[03:07] <bluntz> it could use my swap
[03:07] <bluntz> but anyway
[03:08] <bluntz> wouldnt work for me cuz my card has to have the modules reloaded every boot
[03:08] <bluntz> kernel dont set it up rite
[03:08] <rockyrock> superm1:  i have a DVB card, should i use PAL TV format?? This is not mentioned in the pdf.
[03:09] <superm1> rockyrock, depends on your locale
[03:09] <superm1> if you are somewhere that uses PAL, sure
[03:10] <rockyrock> i don't know actually. I have my DVB card connected directly with the Dish.
[03:11] <rockyrock> so i don't know
[03:11] <superm1> rockyrock, well where do you live?
[03:11] <rockyrock> Syria
[03:11] <superm1> i'm pretty sure you're pal
[03:11] <superm1> http://www.geocities.com/fon_is_Fun/ntsc_or_pal.htm
[03:12] <rockyrock> ok
[03:13] <rockyrock> what about the channel frequency table?
[03:13] <superm1> i'm not sure what's normally used by you
[03:13] <rockyrock> i don't know why do i need that! I should set the frequency of NileSat
[03:14] <superm1> pick something that seems somewhat sensible, and if it doesnt work you can go back
[03:14] <rockyrock> ok, but where should i choose the frequencies of the satellite that i want?
[03:15] <rockyrock> like Hotbird for example
[03:15] <rockyrock> or nilesat
[03:15] <superm1> i'm really not so sure
[03:16] <bluntz> I guess myth really needs its own box? will it work on a p3 450?
[03:17] <rockyrock> If you're not sure, i have a question now. Can mythtv play DVB channels?? i.e channels from satellites??
[03:19] <superm1> bluntz, for a backend sure, but for a frontend i would refer to the website for the requirements
[03:19] <superm1> rockyrock, yeah it can
[03:20] <superm1> as long as they're not encrypted
[03:20] <superm1> you'd need a CAM of sorts to use encrypted channels
[03:20] <bluntz> Ive always been confused by the frontend/backend scheme
[03:21] <superm1> well you dont need to do them separate
[03:21] <superm1> but its a feature that you can
[03:22] <bluntz> do I understand frontend=encoder backend=viewer?
[03:22] <superm1> other way around
[03:23] <bluntz> so the p3 would be ok to encode?
[03:24] <superm1> if you have a hardware encoding tv tuner yes
[03:24] <superm1> like a pvr-xxx
[03:24] <superm1> or simila
[03:24] <bluntz> its an old pinnacle studio/rave
[03:24] <bluntz> analog cable
[03:24] <superm1> thats a framegrabber
[03:24] <superm1> aint gonna do the trick
[03:25] <bluntz> so it wont work for myth at all?
[03:25] <superm1> you'll need a more power if you want to use that card
[03:26] <rockyrock> superm1: what's the video source?? I didn't understand it from the pdf
[03:26] <superm1> EIT for you likely
[03:26] <rockyrock> superm1: what's EIT?
[03:29] <bluntz> I have the card in a k7  512 box and it runs all the other tv wares ok
[03:30] <bluntz> does anybody here have a box up and running?
[03:32] <rockyrock> superm1: what should i name the video source??? I don't know what's video source is. Can you explain it to me plz, cuz how can i name something i don't know what it is?
[03:32] <bluntz> /dev/video0 ??????????
[03:33] <cbrunner> hey
[03:33] <cbrunner> I am trying to figure out how to set up my turtle bay
[03:33] <cbrunner> sound card, and get the optical out to work
[03:33] <cbrunner> currently my reciever says its not recieving a signal for it
[03:33] <cbrunner> my motherboard has onboard sound as well, I think alsa is using the onboard sound, how do I check?
[03:34] <bluntz> kernel has options for turtle beach cards
[03:34] <cbrunner> do you know how I could switch it on?
[03:34] <bluntz> recompile kernel
[03:35] <cbrunner> ok, I gotta recompile
[03:35] <bluntz> maybe modprobe if ur lucky
[03:35] <cbrunner> ok I guess I will try that
[03:35] <cbrunner> the card is detected
[03:35] <cbrunner> I can see it under the detected cards
[03:35] <cbrunner> I just dont think its being used
[03:36] <bluntz> lsmod and see if module loaded
[03:37] <bluntz> I run 2 cards also
[03:37] <rockyrock> superm1: oh god!!! I found how to scan for channels, but i should enter the frequencies for each channel!!!!! Is there anyway that it can scan for all frequencies for a specific satellite?
[03:38] <cbrunner> bluntz, when I look at alsamixer
[03:38] <cbrunner> its using the onboard sound
[03:38] <cbrunner> I dunno what the module I am looking for in lsmod would be
[03:39] <bluntz> I just pick witch card in properties under mixer
[03:39] <bluntz> I run both for 8 channell stereo lol
[03:40] <cbrunner> in properties
[03:40] <cbrunner> under mixer
[03:40] <cbrunner> I only see
[03:40] <cbrunner> Applications->Settings->Sound
[03:40] <bluntz> doubleclik the speaker
[03:41] <bluntz> volume control comes up
[03:41] <bluntz> look File
[03:41] <bluntz> change device
[03:42] <bluntz> see it there?
[03:42] <cbrunner> let me see
[03:42] <cbrunner> yea
[03:42] <cbrunner> that was where
[03:42] <cbrunner> I changed it before
[03:42] <cbrunner> its changed there
[03:42] <cbrunner> but it doesnt actually work
[03:42] <cbrunner> cause I think alsa isnt using it
[03:44] <bluntz> did you run alsaconf?
[03:46] <superm1> rockyrock, sorry i've not worked with satellite directly
[03:46] <superm1> rockyrock, cant help too much more at this point
[03:48] <cbrunner> let me try also conf
[04:00] <rockyrock> when i try to scan any frequency, i get no channels! I don't know what's the problem. I tried several frequencies that i'm sure they work
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[04:05] <cbrunner> whoa whoa whoa!
[04:05] <cbrunner> the reciever is picking up PCM sound
[04:05] <cbrunner> from my optical out
[04:05] <cbrunner> well
[04:05] <cbrunner> no sound is playing yet
[04:05] <cbrunner> but it is getting a signal
[04:06] <cbrunner> how bout them tomatoes!
[04:06] <cbrunner> now for sound!
[04:12] <cbrunner> fuck
[04:12] <cbrunner> its detecing the pcm stream
[04:12] <cbrunner> but still not playing anything
[04:19] <cbrunner> ugh
[04:19] <cbrunner> so close
[04:19] <cbrunner> yet so far
[04:21] <cbrunner> YES
[04:21] <cbrunner> YES
[04:21] <cbrunner> I did it
[04:21] <cbrunner> optical sound working
[04:21] <cbrunner> yes
[04:56] <cbrunner> damn
[04:56] <cbrunner> this new mythbuntu
[04:56] <cbrunner> detects my hd screen at 1080i
[04:56] <cbrunner> the old one I could only get 720p
[04:56] <cbrunner> and it took forever to get that
[04:56] <cbrunner> this time it instantly detected it
[04:57] <cbrunner> and now with the optical sound out
[04:57] <cbrunner> it is fuckin sweet
[05:09] <cbrunner> for some reason
[05:10] <cbrunner> my Hauppage PVR 150 remote
[05:10] <cbrunner> doesnt work anymore
[06:13] <cbrunner> hey, I am getting this message I think whe lirc is trying to start
[06:13] <cbrunner> firmware haup-ir-blaster.bin not available (-2)
[06:14] <cbrunner>    51.820117] lirc_pvr150: firmware haup-ir-blaster.bin not available (-2)
[06:14] <cbrunner> and lirc is failing to start
[06:27] <cbrunner> ok
[06:27] <cbrunner> fixed it
[06:27] <cbrunner> in a strange way
[06:32] <cbrunner> now I just need to get my damn onboard sound blocked
[06:32] <cbrunner> wait
[06:32] <cbrunner> I might know how
[06:52] <cann> morning, anyone here using wintv nova-s+ with mythbuntu 8.04 ?
[08:48] <cbrunner> gotta say
[08:48] <cbrunner> mythbuntu 8x is worlds above 7.10
[08:52] <superm1> yeah the first release was a mad rush for getting things in
[08:52] <superm1> 8.04 is more polishing
[08:52] <superm1> so will be 8.10
[08:52] <superm1> hopefully 9.04 will be some more reworking and features again
[08:53] <hads> And 0.22 :)
[08:54] <superm1> personally i'm thinking that once i've abstracted the installer enough, i won't be stuck focusing on installer bugs most of the cycle like i did for 8.04 and i have been for 8.10
[08:54] <superm1> which will leave more time for working on the stuff that's interesting to end users
[09:00] <cbrunner> that would be awesome
[09:01] <cbrunner> I fixed all my issues I had last night superm1
[09:01] <cbrunner> for some reason my mac was creating messed up install cds
[09:01] <cbrunner> which was why none of the options were working on the menu
[09:01] <superm1> !stab cbrunner's mac
[09:01]  * Zinn stabs cbrunner's mac with a rusty spork.
[09:01] <cbrunner> haha
[09:01] <cbrunner> and I got a monitor to use
[09:01] <cbrunner> and just reinstalled mythbuntu
[09:01] <superm1> good good
[09:01] <cbrunner> and wow it works like a charm
[09:01] <superm1> easy enough solution eh?
[09:02] <cbrunner> yea, on 8.0 my display worked flawlessly
[09:02] <cbrunner> I get 1080i now
[09:02] <cbrunner> and I got my optic audio working
[09:02] <cbrunner> which is sweet
[09:04] <superm1> should have done this a while ago it sounds then
[09:04] <cbrunner> yea
[09:04] <cbrunner> didnt even realize there was a new release
[09:05] <cbrunner> the only thing that doesnt seem to be working is the nfs share
[09:05] <cbrunner> but I can work on that later
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[10:16] <famicom> software freedom day is the gayest thing i've ever hyeard of
[11:08] <hume> hi... I am in the process of installing mythbuntu for the first time - in the partition manager, it suggests to use two partittions, one 22 % of the HD for /dev/sda3, and the rest for "mythbuntu" - anyone can tell the logic behind this?
[11:09] <hume> my intention was to use some 10 GB, rather than the suggested 97 GB, for system, and the rest for films etc, which is more like 5 % for sda3, not 22... but is there a good reason for mythbuntu's suggestion?
[12:12] <hume> i've just made a brand new installation of mythbuntu, and configured the computer to use propr drivers (fglrx) - but when watching live TV the image jumps, is not a steady flow. anyone got ideas on what to check?
[12:12] <hume> backend runs on other machine, connection via ethernet cable
[13:08] <Mez> Hey, any of the devvys around? I need to ask a couple of technical questions regarding what info a frontend needs to connect, and then put forward a suggestion for an app that might make mythbuntu that little bit cooler
[13:39] <hume_> i have a script that I want to run on log in (sshfs-mount) - how do I set this to be done automatically, in xfce / mythbuntu? have used gnome sessions settings before
[13:42] <Mez> you can probably do the same... though generally, for stuff like that - I'd set it up as a script to run on boot...
[13:42] <Mez> or add to fstab
[13:43] <hume_> fstab is not a good idea, it seems - the network is not up when it tries to mount from fstab...
[13:44] <hume_> go another idea on where to put it?
[13:46] <hume_> Mez, got any idea on where to put it so it is run on boot - after network is up?
[13:47] <Mez> hume_, er, yeah, one sec
[13:48] <hume_> ok
[13:50] <Mez> create a script called /etc/rc2.d/S99sshfs-mount (the sshfs-mount can be anything)
[13:50] <Mez> actually
[13:50] <Mez> ignore that
[13:51] <Mez> edit /etc/rc.local ...
[13:51] <Mez> and add your commands before "exit 0"
[14:38] <MythbuntuGuest88> Hi, what VNC server display do I need to connect to usoing my VNC client.  I have tried 0,1,2 Thanks Dean
[14:49] <MythbuntuGuest88> Doesn't matter, it is 0.  I can't type.  Dean
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[16:34] <massabuntu> hi all, i need help with channel-change script don't working inside mythtv, anyone can help me?
[17:23] <eimajenthat> I have a single machine running mythbuntu in a standalone install (using the standard option from te 8.04 liveCD installer), and I have another regular Ubuntu desktop machine.  The Ubuntu desktop has my music library (mp3 files) on a samba share.  What's quickest easiest way to get the Mythbuntu standalone machine to see that samba share as part of its media library?
[17:23] <eimajenthat> sorry, that was longer than I'd planned
[17:25] <eimajenthat> !samba
[17:25] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about samba
[17:25] <eimajenthat> !help
[17:25] <Zinn> Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[17:58] <plan> hello! Anyone knows if it's possible to connect a stb SA explorer 4250 with mythtv throught firewire in ubuntu 8.04??
[18:09] <rhpot1991> plan: yes, depending on your cable co
[18:09] <rhpot1991> plan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire
[18:14] <zabbadapp> Anyone got the xbmcmythtv-script working? The new native support in xbmc for myth:// is lacking, so I decided to try the older py-script from sourceforge. But what is supposed to happen when you start it from the scripts menu? A small progressbar appear for a while, then nothing. The log says "no such file or directory: ./test/languages/English/langinfo.xml".
[18:15] <plan> my cable company is videotron...
[18:16] <rhpot1991> plan: basically you need to get the box into debug mode and see if the channels are encrypted
[18:16] <rhpot1991> some may be while others may be open
[18:16] <plan> ok... how can I put my box in debug mode?
[18:16] <rhpot1991> then you need to figure out what is open and what isn't and only let the firewire access the open ones by removing the encrypted ones from your source
[18:17] <rhpot1991> I don't know SA only motorolla sorry, google it
[18:17] <plan> ok.. thank you very much!
[18:22] <plan> rhpot1991: the debug mode on motorolla... is it a software switch or a hardware switch?
[18:23] <superm1> plan, its something with holding the mail button when you turn it off i think
[18:23] <superm1> i forget for sure though
[18:27] <plan> ok... when the device is in debug mode, how can I read the debug information? which software do you use to do it?
[18:36] <rhpot1991> plan: its on your screen, you flip through the menus
[18:36] <plan> ok thank you again!
[19:18] <eimajenthat> When playing a DVD in mythbuntu, using the Internal player, it was real choppy, so I thought I'd try switching it to Xine, which has served me well on my desktop.  I'm getting an error about there being no input plugin to handle dvd:/.  Googling the error says that it's often caused by not having libdvdcss, but I have libdvdcss2 installed, and libdvdread and libdvdnav.  The same DVD works fine in Ubuntu 8.04 on Totem-Xine.  Is
[19:18] <eimajenthat>  there anything mythbuntu does differently in this area that could be causing the trouble?
[20:40] <jeff45> I'm a noob to linux/Mythbuntu: installed 8.04.1 release, configured back end, Sch. direct, but cant watch TV on frontend.  I've searched and tried all the solutions I could find but to no avail.  I do believe the problem is posting in the log file as follows: 2008-09-19 21:43:26.186 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV
[20:40] <jeff45> 2008-09-19 21:43:26.188 Using protocol version 40
[20:40] <jeff45> 2008-09-19 21:43:27.557 GetEntryAt(-1) failed.
[20:40] <jeff45> 2008-09-19 21:43:27.567 EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo
[21:17] <MythbuntuGuest45> Hi. I live in Portland Oregon and do not understand which format tuner card to buy for local, over-the-air reception (we have no cable provider and do not want to go satellite.  Do I need ATSC, NTSC, QAM?  Thank you! John B.
[21:19] <squish102> afaik you need atsc. ntsc is the old analogue and qam is the cable
[21:20] <MythbuntuGuest45> Awesome, thank you for the immediate assistance!  There is a lot to learn with this new technology!  Thank you again!
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest45, yep.  You should get good HD reception from portland too, all of the stations are there
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> I live just over a hill in salem and get none :(
[21:55] <rhpot1991> !black% | jeff45
[21:55] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about black%
[21:55] <rhpot1991> !blank% | jeff45
[21:55] <Zinn> jeff45: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[23:11] <olskolirc> can someone tell me, is mythbuntu just a media center or is ubuntu desktop installed as well
[23:11] <tgm4883_laptop> media center
[23:11] <tgm4883_laptop> you can install ubuntu-desktop though if you want
[23:12] <olskolirc> ok tgm4883_laptop thanks
[23:16] <olskolirc> does mythbuntu work well with a PVR card or do I have to ivtv-tune my channels by hand?
[23:20] <tgm4883_laptop> works well
[23:20] <tgm4883_laptop> like a PVR-150?
[23:31] <feltis> ok this is probably a really stupid question but I could not find the answer searching, how do I upgrade from 8.04.1 to test 8.10 without using CD's? Is it the same as update-manager -d?
[23:36] <olskolirc> does mythbuntu already come configured or do i have to set up SQL server and all that it asks for
[23:36] <olskolirc> yes tgm4883 PVR-150 is what I have
[23:41] <jeff45> Thanks, Friendly bot Zinn.  I had set up some storage directories under storage groups not really knowing what I was doing.  deleted them and now it works
[23:44] <tgm4883_laptop> olskolirc, yes, most things are already setup for you.  You will have to run though mythtv-setup.  PVR-150's work OOTB.  Please read the manual
[23:45] <tgm4883_laptop> !manual | olskolirc
[23:45] <Zinn> olskolirc: http://mythbuntu.org/installation_manual
[23:45] <olskolirc> thanks