/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/21/#kubuntu-devel.txt

digistyl3is automounting removed from intrepid?02:41
* apachelogger just came home from last night's party-ing09:22
seaLneapachelogger: party monster! :)10:11
Werdnahi all10:19
mcashi Werdna10:19
WerdnaI'm interested in contributing to some KDE apps (specifically kopete), and I'm trying to get my build environment set up. is there a guide on this around somewhere?10:19
Werdnasupposedly I need to set all kinds of environment vars and so on.10:20
seaLneWerdna: you might want to look at http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ as a simple way of getting an uptodate copy of kde built10:21
Werdnahmm10:22
WerdnaIf I'm interested in doing development, maybe that isn't the best tool.10:22
ArbyWerdna: is http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started closer to what you want?10:25
WerdnaArby: techbase is down.10:25
Arbynot here it isn't10:25
Werdna09:37 < wstephenson> Werdna: techbase is back up10:25
Werdnaah, or not :P10:25
* Werdna looks.10:26
mcasbugs.kde.org is back, too10:27
* Lex79 is away: Per ora assente13:34
yao_ziyuanmaybe this is a bug:13:43
yao_ziyuani've downloaded the kubuntu intrepid alpha 6 alternate installer iso13:43
yao_ziyuani mounted it at /mnt/cdrom13:43
yao_ziyuanand i try to apt-cdrom -m -d /mnt/cdrom add13:43
yao_ziyuanthe first error returned is:13:44
jussi01yao_ziyuan: have you reported it?13:44
yao_ziyuanE: Could not open file /mnt/cdrom/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)13:44
yao_ziyuanthis is because the actual file in the iso is called Packages.gz13:44
yao_ziyuanhow do i fix it?13:44
Hobbseeoh, that bug.13:46
Hobbseei'm fairly sure that's already reported, against apt.13:46
yao_ziyuani want to upgrade from hardy to intrepid using this iso (without a burner)13:46
Hobbseei thought that it was fixed - if it's not now, it certainly should be soon.13:46
Hobbseeoh, of course, you're using an old apt.13:46
yao_ziyuani'm using the new apt13:47
yao_ziyuanwith the new adept 3.013:47
Hobbseefrom intrepid?13:47
Hobbseebug #25554513:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 255545 in apt "requires uncompressed Packages files on CDs" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25554513:47
yao_ziyuanmy apt version is apt 0.7.14ubuntu4 for i386 compiled on Aug  5 2008 22:20:5413:47
Hobbseewell, seeing as the version that fixes it is 0.7.14ubuntu6, you'll be using an old apt.13:48
yao_ziyuan...13:48
yao_ziyuanhow to update to the latest apt?13:48
Hobbseeinstall it from intrepid -  but i'll bet that pulls in other dependancies too, and may make your upgrade difficult.13:49
Hobbseehardy and below used the uncompressed packages files.  intrepid uses the compressed versions, and thus, has the updated apt to handle it.13:49
yao_ziyuanis there an online repository providing the latest apt?13:50
Hobbseearchive.ubuntu.com?13:50
Hobbseewhere the rest of intrepid's repositories are?13:50
yao_ziyuanbut i'm still in hardy13:50
yao_ziyuani need probably a .deb file that installs apt for me13:50
Hobbseealong with any other dependancies.  which will make it difficult.13:51
yao_ziyuani also have another idea13:51
yao_ziyuandownload the intrepid hd-installer files for grub13:52
* Hobbsee puts it on the radar to check13:52
yao_ziyuanand boot to this hd-installer, select the iso13:52
yao_ziyuanbut my question is:13:52
yao_ziyuanwill the hd-installer let me "upgrade" my hardy rather than wiping it out?13:52
Hobbseei've got no idea.13:53
Hobbseebut thankyou for pointing out a valid bug, which I don't think we were aware of so far.13:54
Hobbsee(the fact that the unfixed apt is still in hardy)13:54
yao_ziyuancan you put a fixed apt in hardy repos now?13:54
Hobbseedefine now?13:54
yao_ziyuani have yet another idea: extract the iso to a directory and manually compress that Packages file to Packages.gz13:55
yao_ziyuannow is now13:55
HobbseeOn balance, no.13:55
HobbseeApt is a tricky package, adn there are SRU procedures to make sure things do not regress.13:55
Hobbseeit requires rebuilds of a whole lot of other stuff.13:55
yao_ziyuandoes this work? "extract the iso to a directory and manually compress that Packages file to Packages.gz"13:56
Hobbseealso, it is not a good practice to accept one's own uploads.13:56
Hobbseei would think so - but i'd expect you'd need to remake the directory into an iso afterwards, and mount that.13:56
* Hobbsee wonders if that would affect the md5sums, etc.13:57
yao_ziyuancan't i just use that directory as the "mount point"?13:57
Hobbseeif it will let you, then probably.13:57
yao_ziyuanmd5sum... sigh13:57
Hobbseebut it may still whine about the md5sums - if it checks them.13:57
yao_ziyuani should renew the md5sum too13:57
Hobbseei'd guess you may have to.  But you can try it without, first.13:58
* yao_ziyuan retreats13:58
yao_ziyuanmy current apt was installed by a ppa.launchpad.net repos which provides adept 313:59
yao_ziyuan"mornfall"13:59
JontheEchidnaapt isn't adept14:19
JontheEchidnaoh, he left14:19
dr-p3pperwere the daily builds of kubuntu+1 fixed? i tried on two different dates a few weeks back and both were broken, errored out on "installing packages"14:29
LeeJunFanIs the release date for ubuntu late enough that we'll be getting kde 4.1.2 in intrepid, which releases on oct 3?14:52
JontheEchidnayes, Intrepid will get 4.1.214:53
LeeJunFanJontheEchidna: thanks.14:53
dr-p3pperwho works on the daily builds?14:53
mcasJontheEchidna, ping14:55
Hobbseedr-p3pper: the alpha 6 images certainly worked.15:05
dr-p3pperHobbsee: can i get a link to those images you are talking about?15:06
Hobbseedr-p3pper: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-September/000487.html15:15
jeroen-how to upgrade from hardy to current intrepid?16:27
JontheEchidnajeroen-: sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release should work16:31
jeroen-JontheEchidna: yes that is what I was looking for16:31
jeroen-thansk16:31
NCommanderhey JontheEchidna16:41
JontheEchidnahi16:41
NCommanderJontheEchidna, how goes it?16:41
JontheEchidnapretty ok16:41
NCommanderI now have a shiny @kubuntu.org email :-)16:43
JontheEchidnanice :)16:43
NCommanderyes, it is shiny16:43
NCommanderI need a @xubuntu.org one now to complete the set16:43
* JontheEchidna updated his .bashrc for his @kubuntu.org email Friday16:43
JontheEchidnaOh and lookit: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Jn7tUiuzfcA/SNZc915qETI/AAAAAAAAACA/TJGGg7i-924/s1600-h/kde4gnome.png16:45
JontheEchidnaI found a new plasmoid on kde-look and was able to complete it: http://jtechinda.blogspot.com/2008/09/power-of-plasma.html16:45
JontheEchidna[11:45:04] <JontheEchidna> Oh and lookit: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Jn7tUiuzfcA/SNZc915qETI/AAAAAAAAACA/TJGGg7i-924/s1600-h/kde4gnome.png16:49
JontheEchidna[11:45:41] <JontheEchidna> I found a new plasmoid on kde-look and was able to complete it: http://jtechinda.blogspot.com/2008/09/power-of-plasma.html16:50
JucatoJontheEchidna: "The widget theme is Oxygen Connections, my theme." <-- I think you meant Plasma or Desktop theme17:11
JontheEchidnayeah17:12
* Jucato was foolishly looking for a widget style in the screenshot :P17:12
JontheEchidnahehe17:13
JontheEchidnait is pretty cool what you can do with plasma though17:14
Jucatoit is. that spacer alone is something people have probably been looking for. I know I have :)17:15
Jucatojust too lazy to do it myself :P17:15
* JontheEchidna goes to his dad's birthday lunch17:23
claydohhi Jucato!17:25
Arbyapachelogger: around?17:33
Arbyapachelogger: I can reproduce bug 254137, what further info do we need for an upstream report?17:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 254137 in kdepim "KOrganizer crashes (ASSERT: "dt.isValid()") when exporting a vCalendar (vcs) file" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25413717:33
rgreeningRiddell: hey.18:21
Riddellevening rgreening18:22
rgreeningRiddell: did you see my e-mail? Qt 4.4.2...18:22
rgreeningI built and installed the debs fine.18:22
Riddellyes thanks, I'll set it building here shortly to check18:24
Riddellrgreening: which tar did you use in the end?18:24
rgreeningqt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.2.tar.gz18:25
rgreeningnot the ALL18:25
rgreeningSo, now that works, need to look into Qt Phonon...18:26
* rgreening wonders if we can make both Qt Phonon and the current one co-exist nicely18:26
RiddellI doubt it, it's the same library, just installed two different ways18:27
rgreeningRiddell: I'll try it :)18:28
rgreeningRiddell: Oh, what about Mesa. 7.2 is out, will we bump to it?18:28
Riddellrgreening: I doubt it, that would be quite intrusive after feature freeze18:32
Riddellbryce would be the guy to talk to18:32
rgreeninghmm... 7.2 is only bug fixing according to the notes and does add in G41 Intel support, which is currently missing. It would be a plus18:33
rgreeninghmm.. will qt4.4.2 be in?18:34
Riddellyep, because I'm confident that's only bugfixes18:35
Riddellbut a 4.5 wouldn't18:35
rgreeningok18:35
rgreeningcool18:35
jjesseafternoon19:56
Riddellhola19:58
jjessecomo estas Riddell?20:03
rgreeningRiddell: how goes the qt4 build process20:24
jeroen-I updated to intrepid21:34
jeroen-one problem - kde always  boots in a 1600x1280 resolution (word auto as a suffix) - but I want 1280x1024, when I set it, it works, nut the next time the wrong resolution is there again - I only have to go the display settings and the good resolution comes back21:36
jeroen-I try to find the hardware settings, but they are not there21:36
jeroen-oh btw - I have no xorg.conf21:37
jeroen-I deleted it, because the old one would not load21:38
voriannixternal: burn your cloths?21:50
blizzzare the occuring issues with the german kde translation for kubuntu via launchpad known?21:54

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