[02:41] is automounting removed from intrepid? [09:22] * apachelogger just came home from last night's party-ing [10:11] apachelogger: party monster! :) [10:19] hi all [10:19] hi Werdna [10:19] I'm interested in contributing to some KDE apps (specifically kopete), and I'm trying to get my build environment set up. is there a guide on this around somewhere? [10:20] supposedly I need to set all kinds of environment vars and so on. [10:21] Werdna: you might want to look at http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ as a simple way of getting an uptodate copy of kde built [10:22] hmm [10:22] If I'm interested in doing development, maybe that isn't the best tool. [10:25] Werdna: is http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started closer to what you want? [10:25] Arby: techbase is down. [10:25] not here it isn't [10:25] 09:37 < wstephenson> Werdna: techbase is back up [10:25] ah, or not :P [10:26] * Werdna looks. [10:27] bugs.kde.org is back, too [13:34] * Lex79 is away: Per ora assente [13:43] maybe this is a bug: [13:43] i've downloaded the kubuntu intrepid alpha 6 alternate installer iso [13:43] i mounted it at /mnt/cdrom [13:43] and i try to apt-cdrom -m -d /mnt/cdrom add [13:44] the first error returned is: [13:44] yao_ziyuan: have you reported it? [13:44] E: Could not open file /mnt/cdrom/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages - open (2 No such file or directory) [13:44] this is because the actual file in the iso is called Packages.gz [13:44] how do i fix it? [13:46] oh, that bug. [13:46] i'm fairly sure that's already reported, against apt. [13:46] i want to upgrade from hardy to intrepid using this iso (without a burner) [13:46] i thought that it was fixed - if it's not now, it certainly should be soon. [13:46] oh, of course, you're using an old apt. [13:47] i'm using the new apt [13:47] with the new adept 3.0 [13:47] from intrepid? [13:47] bug #255545 [13:47] Launchpad bug 255545 in apt "requires uncompressed Packages files on CDs" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255545 [13:47] my apt version is apt 0.7.14ubuntu4 for i386 compiled on Aug 5 2008 22:20:54 [13:48] well, seeing as the version that fixes it is 0.7.14ubuntu6, you'll be using an old apt. [13:48] ... [13:48] how to update to the latest apt? [13:49] install it from intrepid - but i'll bet that pulls in other dependancies too, and may make your upgrade difficult. [13:49] hardy and below used the uncompressed packages files. intrepid uses the compressed versions, and thus, has the updated apt to handle it. [13:50] is there an online repository providing the latest apt? [13:50] archive.ubuntu.com? [13:50] where the rest of intrepid's repositories are? [13:50] but i'm still in hardy [13:50] i need probably a .deb file that installs apt for me [13:51] along with any other dependancies. which will make it difficult. [13:51] i also have another idea [13:52] download the intrepid hd-installer files for grub [13:52] * Hobbsee puts it on the radar to check [13:52] and boot to this hd-installer, select the iso [13:52] but my question is: [13:52] will the hd-installer let me "upgrade" my hardy rather than wiping it out? [13:53] i've got no idea. [13:54] but thankyou for pointing out a valid bug, which I don't think we were aware of so far. [13:54] (the fact that the unfixed apt is still in hardy) [13:54] can you put a fixed apt in hardy repos now? [13:54] define now? [13:55] i have yet another idea: extract the iso to a directory and manually compress that Packages file to Packages.gz [13:55] now is now [13:55] On balance, no. [13:55] Apt is a tricky package, adn there are SRU procedures to make sure things do not regress. [13:55] it requires rebuilds of a whole lot of other stuff. [13:56] does this work? "extract the iso to a directory and manually compress that Packages file to Packages.gz" [13:56] also, it is not a good practice to accept one's own uploads. [13:56] i would think so - but i'd expect you'd need to remake the directory into an iso afterwards, and mount that. [13:57] * Hobbsee wonders if that would affect the md5sums, etc. [13:57] can't i just use that directory as the "mount point"? [13:57] if it will let you, then probably. [13:57] md5sum... sigh [13:57] but it may still whine about the md5sums - if it checks them. [13:57] i should renew the md5sum too [13:58] i'd guess you may have to. But you can try it without, first. [13:58] * yao_ziyuan retreats [13:59] my current apt was installed by a ppa.launchpad.net repos which provides adept 3 [13:59] "mornfall" [14:19] apt isn't adept [14:19] oh, he left [14:29] were the daily builds of kubuntu+1 fixed? i tried on two different dates a few weeks back and both were broken, errored out on "installing packages" [14:52] Is the release date for ubuntu late enough that we'll be getting kde 4.1.2 in intrepid, which releases on oct 3? [14:53] yes, Intrepid will get 4.1.2 [14:53] JontheEchidna: thanks. [14:53] who works on the daily builds? [14:55] JontheEchidna, ping [15:05] dr-p3pper: the alpha 6 images certainly worked. [15:06] Hobbsee: can i get a link to those images you are talking about? [15:15] dr-p3pper: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-September/000487.html [16:27] how to upgrade from hardy to current intrepid? [16:31] jeroen-: sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release should work [16:31] JontheEchidna: yes that is what I was looking for [16:31] thansk [16:41] hey JontheEchidna [16:41] hi [16:41] JontheEchidna, how goes it? [16:41] pretty ok [16:43] I now have a shiny @kubuntu.org email :-) [16:43] nice :) [16:43] yes, it is shiny [16:43] I need a @xubuntu.org one now to complete the set [16:43] * JontheEchidna updated his .bashrc for his @kubuntu.org email Friday [16:45] Oh and lookit: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Jn7tUiuzfcA/SNZc915qETI/AAAAAAAAACA/TJGGg7i-924/s1600-h/kde4gnome.png [16:45] I found a new plasmoid on kde-look and was able to complete it: http://jtechinda.blogspot.com/2008/09/power-of-plasma.html [16:49] [11:45:04] Oh and lookit: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Jn7tUiuzfcA/SNZc915qETI/AAAAAAAAACA/TJGGg7i-924/s1600-h/kde4gnome.png [16:50] [11:45:41] I found a new plasmoid on kde-look and was able to complete it: http://jtechinda.blogspot.com/2008/09/power-of-plasma.html [17:11] JontheEchidna: "The widget theme is Oxygen Connections, my theme." <-- I think you meant Plasma or Desktop theme [17:12] yeah [17:12] * Jucato was foolishly looking for a widget style in the screenshot :P [17:13] hehe [17:14] it is pretty cool what you can do with plasma though [17:15] it is. that spacer alone is something people have probably been looking for. I know I have :) [17:15] just too lazy to do it myself :P [17:23] * JontheEchidna goes to his dad's birthday lunch [17:25] hi Jucato! [17:33] apachelogger: around? [17:33] apachelogger: I can reproduce bug 254137, what further info do we need for an upstream report? [17:33] Launchpad bug 254137 in kdepim "KOrganizer crashes (ASSERT: "dt.isValid()") when exporting a vCalendar (vcs) file" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254137 [18:21] Riddell: hey. [18:22] evening rgreening [18:22] Riddell: did you see my e-mail? Qt 4.4.2... [18:22] I built and installed the debs fine. [18:24] yes thanks, I'll set it building here shortly to check [18:24] rgreening: which tar did you use in the end? [18:25] qt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.2.tar.gz [18:25] not the ALL [18:26] So, now that works, need to look into Qt Phonon... [18:26] * rgreening wonders if we can make both Qt Phonon and the current one co-exist nicely [18:27] I doubt it, it's the same library, just installed two different ways [18:28] Riddell: I'll try it :) [18:28] Riddell: Oh, what about Mesa. 7.2 is out, will we bump to it? [18:32] rgreening: I doubt it, that would be quite intrusive after feature freeze [18:32] bryce would be the guy to talk to [18:33] hmm... 7.2 is only bug fixing according to the notes and does add in G41 Intel support, which is currently missing. It would be a plus [18:34] hmm.. will qt4.4.2 be in? [18:35] yep, because I'm confident that's only bugfixes [18:35] but a 4.5 wouldn't [18:35] ok [18:35] cool [19:56] afternoon [19:58] hola [20:03] como estas Riddell? [20:24] Riddell: how goes the qt4 build process [21:34] I updated to intrepid [21:36] one problem - kde always boots in a 1600x1280 resolution (word auto as a suffix) - but I want 1280x1024, when I set it, it works, nut the next time the wrong resolution is there again - I only have to go the display settings and the good resolution comes back [21:36] I try to find the hardware settings, but they are not there [21:37] oh btw - I have no xorg.conf [21:38] I deleted it, because the old one would not load [21:50] nixternal: burn your cloths? [21:54] are the occuring issues with the german kde translation for kubuntu via launchpad known?