[02:41] <digistyl3> is automounting removed from intrepid?
[09:22]  * apachelogger just came home from last night's party-ing
[10:11] <seaLne> apachelogger: party monster! :)
[10:19] <Werdna> hi all
[10:19] <mcas> hi Werdna
[10:19] <Werdna> I'm interested in contributing to some KDE apps (specifically kopete), and I'm trying to get my build environment set up. is there a guide on this around somewhere?
[10:20] <Werdna> supposedly I need to set all kinds of environment vars and so on.
[10:21] <seaLne> Werdna: you might want to look at http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ as a simple way of getting an uptodate copy of kde built
[10:22] <Werdna> hmm
[10:22] <Werdna> If I'm interested in doing development, maybe that isn't the best tool.
[10:25] <Arby> Werdna: is http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started closer to what you want?
[10:25] <Werdna> Arby: techbase is down.
[10:25] <Arby> not here it isn't
[10:25] <Werdna> 09:37 < wstephenson> Werdna: techbase is back up
[10:25] <Werdna> ah, or not :P
[10:26]  * Werdna looks.
[10:27] <mcas> bugs.kde.org is back, too
[13:34]  * Lex79 is away: Per ora assente
[13:43] <yao_ziyuan> maybe this is a bug:
[13:43] <yao_ziyuan> i've downloaded the kubuntu intrepid alpha 6 alternate installer iso
[13:43] <yao_ziyuan> i mounted it at /mnt/cdrom
[13:43] <yao_ziyuan> and i try to apt-cdrom -m -d /mnt/cdrom add
[13:44] <yao_ziyuan> the first error returned is:
[13:44] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: have you reported it?
[13:44] <yao_ziyuan> E: Could not open file /mnt/cdrom/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)
[13:44] <yao_ziyuan> this is because the actual file in the iso is called Packages.gz
[13:44] <yao_ziyuan> how do i fix it?
[13:46] <Hobbsee> oh, that bug.
[13:46] <Hobbsee> i'm fairly sure that's already reported, against apt.
[13:46] <yao_ziyuan> i want to upgrade from hardy to intrepid using this iso (without a burner)
[13:46] <Hobbsee> i thought that it was fixed - if it's not now, it certainly should be soon.
[13:46] <Hobbsee> oh, of course, you're using an old apt.
[13:47] <yao_ziyuan> i'm using the new apt
[13:47] <yao_ziyuan> with the new adept 3.0
[13:47] <Hobbsee> from intrepid?
[13:47] <Hobbsee> bug #255545
[13:47] <yao_ziyuan> my apt version is apt 0.7.14ubuntu4 for i386 compiled on Aug  5 2008 22:20:54
[13:48] <Hobbsee> well, seeing as the version that fixes it is 0.7.14ubuntu6, you'll be using an old apt.
[13:48] <yao_ziyuan> ...
[13:48] <yao_ziyuan> how to update to the latest apt?
[13:49] <Hobbsee> install it from intrepid -  but i'll bet that pulls in other dependancies too, and may make your upgrade difficult.
[13:49] <Hobbsee> hardy and below used the uncompressed packages files.  intrepid uses the compressed versions, and thus, has the updated apt to handle it.
[13:50] <yao_ziyuan> is there an online repository providing the latest apt?
[13:50] <Hobbsee> archive.ubuntu.com?
[13:50] <Hobbsee> where the rest of intrepid's repositories are?
[13:50] <yao_ziyuan> but i'm still in hardy
[13:50] <yao_ziyuan> i need probably a .deb file that installs apt for me
[13:51] <Hobbsee> along with any other dependancies.  which will make it difficult.
[13:51] <yao_ziyuan> i also have another idea
[13:52] <yao_ziyuan> download the intrepid hd-installer files for grub
[13:52]  * Hobbsee puts it on the radar to check
[13:52] <yao_ziyuan> and boot to this hd-installer, select the iso
[13:52] <yao_ziyuan> but my question is:
[13:52] <yao_ziyuan> will the hd-installer let me "upgrade" my hardy rather than wiping it out?
[13:53] <Hobbsee> i've got no idea.
[13:54] <Hobbsee> but thankyou for pointing out a valid bug, which I don't think we were aware of so far.
[13:54] <Hobbsee> (the fact that the unfixed apt is still in hardy)
[13:54] <yao_ziyuan> can you put a fixed apt in hardy repos now?
[13:54] <Hobbsee> define now?
[13:55] <yao_ziyuan> i have yet another idea: extract the iso to a directory and manually compress that Packages file to Packages.gz
[13:55] <yao_ziyuan> now is now
[13:55] <Hobbsee> On balance, no.
[13:55] <Hobbsee> Apt is a tricky package, adn there are SRU procedures to make sure things do not regress.
[13:55] <Hobbsee> it requires rebuilds of a whole lot of other stuff.
[13:56] <yao_ziyuan> does this work? "extract the iso to a directory and manually compress that Packages file to Packages.gz"
[13:56] <Hobbsee> also, it is not a good practice to accept one's own uploads.
[13:56] <Hobbsee> i would think so - but i'd expect you'd need to remake the directory into an iso afterwards, and mount that.
[13:57]  * Hobbsee wonders if that would affect the md5sums, etc.
[13:57] <yao_ziyuan> can't i just use that directory as the "mount point"?
[13:57] <Hobbsee> if it will let you, then probably.
[13:57] <yao_ziyuan> md5sum... sigh
[13:57] <Hobbsee> but it may still whine about the md5sums - if it checks them.
[13:57] <yao_ziyuan> i should renew the md5sum too
[13:58] <Hobbsee> i'd guess you may have to.  But you can try it without, first.
[13:58]  * yao_ziyuan retreats
[13:59] <yao_ziyuan> my current apt was installed by a ppa.launchpad.net repos which provides adept 3
[13:59] <yao_ziyuan> "mornfall"
[14:19] <JontheEchidna> apt isn't adept
[14:19] <JontheEchidna> oh, he left
[14:29] <dr-p3pper> were the daily builds of kubuntu+1 fixed? i tried on two different dates a few weeks back and both were broken, errored out on "installing packages"
[14:52] <LeeJunFan> Is the release date for ubuntu late enough that we'll be getting kde 4.1.2 in intrepid, which releases on oct 3?
[14:53] <JontheEchidna> yes, Intrepid will get 4.1.2
[14:53] <LeeJunFan> JontheEchidna: thanks.
[14:53] <dr-p3pper> who works on the daily builds?
[14:55] <mcas> JontheEchidna, ping
[15:05] <Hobbsee> dr-p3pper: the alpha 6 images certainly worked.
[15:06] <dr-p3pper> Hobbsee: can i get a link to those images you are talking about?
[15:15] <Hobbsee> dr-p3pper: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-September/000487.html
[16:27] <jeroen-> how to upgrade from hardy to current intrepid?
[16:31] <JontheEchidna> jeroen-: sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release should work
[16:31] <jeroen-> JontheEchidna: yes that is what I was looking for
[16:31] <jeroen-> thansk
[16:41] <NCommander> hey JontheEchidna
[16:41] <JontheEchidna> hi
[16:41] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, how goes it?
[16:41] <JontheEchidna> pretty ok
[16:43] <NCommander> I now have a shiny @kubuntu.org email :-)
[16:43] <JontheEchidna> nice :)
[16:43] <NCommander> yes, it is shiny
[16:43] <NCommander> I need a @xubuntu.org one now to complete the set
[16:43]  * JontheEchidna updated his .bashrc for his @kubuntu.org email Friday
[16:45] <JontheEchidna> Oh and lookit: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Jn7tUiuzfcA/SNZc915qETI/AAAAAAAAACA/TJGGg7i-924/s1600-h/kde4gnome.png
[16:45] <JontheEchidna> I found a new plasmoid on kde-look and was able to complete it: http://jtechinda.blogspot.com/2008/09/power-of-plasma.html
[16:49] <JontheEchidna> [11:45:04] <JontheEchidna> Oh and lookit: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Jn7tUiuzfcA/SNZc915qETI/AAAAAAAAACA/TJGGg7i-924/s1600-h/kde4gnome.png
[16:50] <JontheEchidna> [11:45:41] <JontheEchidna> I found a new plasmoid on kde-look and was able to complete it: http://jtechinda.blogspot.com/2008/09/power-of-plasma.html
[17:11] <Jucato> JontheEchidna: "The widget theme is Oxygen Connections, my theme." <-- I think you meant Plasma or Desktop theme
[17:12] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[17:12]  * Jucato was foolishly looking for a widget style in the screenshot :P
[17:13] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[17:14] <JontheEchidna> it is pretty cool what you can do with plasma though
[17:15] <Jucato> it is. that spacer alone is something people have probably been looking for. I know I have :)
[17:15] <Jucato> just too lazy to do it myself :P
[17:23]  * JontheEchidna goes to his dad's birthday lunch
[17:25] <claydoh> hi Jucato!
[17:33] <Arby> apachelogger: around?
[17:33] <Arby> apachelogger: I can reproduce bug 254137, what further info do we need for an upstream report?
[18:21] <rgreening> Riddell: hey.
[18:22] <Riddell> evening rgreening
[18:22] <rgreening> Riddell: did you see my e-mail? Qt 4.4.2...
[18:22] <rgreening> I built and installed the debs fine.
[18:24] <Riddell> yes thanks, I'll set it building here shortly to check
[18:24] <Riddell> rgreening: which tar did you use in the end?
[18:25] <rgreening> qt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.2.tar.gz
[18:25] <rgreening> not the ALL
[18:26] <rgreening> So, now that works, need to look into Qt Phonon...
[18:26]  * rgreening wonders if we can make both Qt Phonon and the current one co-exist nicely
[18:27] <Riddell> I doubt it, it's the same library, just installed two different ways
[18:28] <rgreening> Riddell: I'll try it :)
[18:28] <rgreening> Riddell: Oh, what about Mesa. 7.2 is out, will we bump to it?
[18:32] <Riddell> rgreening: I doubt it, that would be quite intrusive after feature freeze
[18:32] <Riddell> bryce would be the guy to talk to
[18:33] <rgreening> hmm... 7.2 is only bug fixing according to the notes and does add in G41 Intel support, which is currently missing. It would be a plus
[18:34] <rgreening> hmm.. will qt4.4.2 be in?
[18:35] <Riddell> yep, because I'm confident that's only bugfixes
[18:35] <Riddell> but a 4.5 wouldn't
[18:35] <rgreening> ok
[18:35] <rgreening> cool
[19:56] <jjesse> afternoon
[19:58] <Riddell> hola
[20:03] <jjesse> como estas Riddell?
[20:24] <rgreening> Riddell: how goes the qt4 build process
[21:34] <jeroen-> I updated to intrepid
[21:36] <jeroen-> one problem - kde always  boots in a 1600x1280 resolution (word auto as a suffix) - but I want 1280x1024, when I set it, it works, nut the next time the wrong resolution is there again - I only have to go the display settings and the good resolution comes back
[21:36] <jeroen-> I try to find the hardware settings, but they are not there
[21:37] <jeroen-> oh btw - I have no xorg.conf
[21:38] <jeroen-> I deleted it, because the old one would not load
[21:50] <vorian> nixternal: burn your cloths?
[21:54] <blizzz> are the occuring issues with the german kde translation for kubuntu via launchpad known?