[00:00] <Schuenemann> I see...
[00:00] <dr_willis> You could resize your windows 95 partition and put the swap on the other hd. also.  to simpilify things
[00:01] <Schuenemann> I avoided that because the other hd is a bit old and slower
[00:01] <dr_willis> for swap it proberly wont matter much
[00:02] <Schuenemann> om
[00:02] <Schuenemann> ok*
[00:02] <dr_willis> i tend to put a small swap partiion on every hard drive i put in a system
[00:02] <dr_willis> Just in case. :)
[00:02] <Schuenemann> ok, but can I reorder the partitions or not?
[00:03] <Schuenemann> I'm not formatting everything right now (I just did that)
[00:03] <dr_willis> you mean move  the location of a partition, totally ahead of a different partition? Hmm....
[00:03] <Schuenemann> I tried this: http://phlogma.com/linux/?p=4
[00:03] <Schuenemann> not much success, though
[00:05] <dr_willis> brb - wife is yelling
[00:13]  * Danu is back.
[00:37] <n00b`1> i cant kde4 work on my ubuntu 8.04
[00:38] <n00b`1> the problem is with screen resolution that wont get settled at 1024x768
[00:38] <dr_willis> !kde4
[00:38] <n00b`1> and the place where i change system settings crash when i try to change the screen resolution
[00:38] <dr_willis> really screen res shouldnt depend on the desktop either. :) if kde3, or any other desktops work . kde4 should also.
[00:39] <n00b`1> dr_willis,  i never tried kde before i used gnome always
[00:39] <n00b`1> but now i think gnome is becoming too simple for me i want something glossy
[00:39] <n00b`1> i tried kde on opensuse too but it didnt work there aswell
[00:40] <n00b`1> so how do i find out whats wrong and how do i report it?
[00:40] <dr_willis> not sure what you are doing exactly. and the exact problem. You are saying that gnome works properly - but kde4 dosent?
[00:40] <n00b`1> dr_willis,  yes
[00:40] <n00b`1> dr_willis,  gnome works like a charm no matter what i do it never gets broken
[00:40] <dr_willis> kde4 shouldent be affecting the system res at all.
[00:41] <n00b`1> dr_willis,  then what could be wrong?
[00:41] <dr_willis> kde4 however is still very much a work in progress
[00:41] <n00b`1> dr_willis,  when it will be stable? in next decade?
[00:41] <dr_willis> I would say do what the !kde4 factoid says and ask in #kubuntu-kde4 for starters.
[00:42] <n00b`1> ok
[00:42] <dr_willis> I just play with kde4 every so often.. i tend to use kde3
[00:42] <n00b`1> kde3 is no good for nothing seriously
[00:42] <dr_willis> and the differances btweeen kde3 and kde4 are - vast.
[00:42] <dr_willis> I find no real problems wth kde3
[00:42] <dr_willis> its all a matter of personal oponion. I get more work done with kde3 then i do with gnome
[00:42] <n00b`1> dr_willis,  the applications are nice though like akregator kmail and kopete
[00:42] <n00b`1> they are the nicest applications
[00:43] <dr_willis> I dont use those at all.
[00:43] <dr_willis> :)
[00:43] <n00b`1> but the over all desktop is difficult to use
[00:43] <n00b`1> me neither i like to do all my work on the web
[00:43] <dr_willis> i dont find it difficult.  ya click on icons.. i perfer the konqueror file manager over others.
[00:43] <n00b`1> dr_willis,  yeah konq is better too
[00:44] <n00b`1> dr_willis,  the new filemanager dolphin is not that good though
[00:44] <dr_willis> I do not like the new dolphin very much at all. and some things in the gnome filemanager are just  annoying to do. vs how konq does it.
[00:44] <n00b`1> it looks a bit gnomeish
[00:44] <dr_willis> I have gotten where i perfer the rox-filer file manager
[00:45] <n00b`1> dr_willis,  roxfiler never heard of it
[00:45] <n00b`1> i am heading to kde4 chatroom lets see what they tell
[00:45] <n00b`1> i guess they will just tell me that i am a noob and i should get lost
[00:47] <chris______> do you guys still regard midnight commander as a nice tool or are there better ones?
[01:01] <marcus__> MC is one of the best, in my opinion.
[01:03] <chris______> good to hear. somebody gave me the tip like 4 yrs ago but i never did much with linux
[01:16]  * chalcedony waves to Politics 
[01:16] <Politics> Hello hello.
[01:16] <chalcedony> people seem to be asleep in here.. try pasting your question, Politics ?
[01:17] <Politics> So I encountered a bug with ndiswrapper+knetworkmanager last night that froze my connection at configuration (28%), and so decided to give kwlan a try
[01:17] <Politics> Adept removed knetworkmanager as it was in conflict, but kwlan was painfully slow and impossible to work with
[01:17] <Politics> So I attempted to switch back, but knetworkmanager failed to install and kwlan was removed
[01:18] <Politics> Now I have no connection, and can't even ping 192.168.1.1
[01:18] <Politics> Now I need a way to recover my connection, so I can at-least apt-get my way out of this
[01:18] <chalcedony> sounds yucchy
[01:18] <chalcedony> eh yeah
[01:19] <chalcedony> and its wireless? you can't change that even temporarily?
[01:19] <Politics> I have both a wired and wireless connection
[01:19] <Politics> both eth1 and wlan0 devices exist
[01:19] <Politics> However, they don't work
[01:19] <Politics> it seems
[01:19] <chalcedony> ouch
[01:20] <favro> try   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:21] <chalcedony> favro: nice to see you
[01:21] <chalcedony> Politics: :)
[01:22] <Politics> It gave me two errors: Both saying it couldn't read /etc/network/interfaces
[01:22] <Intrepid_Ron> hey all  < =) just trying out alpha6, will let ya know if i find new amazing packages hehe
[01:22] <favro> what's in /etc/network interfaces then?
[01:23] <Politics> What's the command to read a file?
[01:23] <Politics> I can't remember
[01:23] <ghostcube> less
[01:24] <favro> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[01:24] <Politics> ah
[01:25] <Politics> I commented out a bunch of stuff a week ago, at the advice of a topic I read while trying to set up the driver for the wlan0 device
[01:25] <Politics> Maybe I should undo the //'s?
[01:26] <favro> I'd get it back to default if I could then start again
[01:26] <Politics> kk
[01:26] <Politics> It's gedit /etc/network/interfaces still, right? Or does KDE use a different editor?
[01:27] <chalcedony> :)
[01:27] <favro> use kate
[01:27] <favro> I like kate :)
[01:27] <Politics> lol
[01:28] <favro> kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[01:29] <Politics> k, restarting...
[01:30] <favro> luck
[01:30] <Politics> tyty
[01:30] <XVampireX> Do I get 64bit support here too?
[01:30] <chalcedony> indeed :)
[01:30] <chalcedony> XVampireX: is it kubuntu ?
[01:30] <XVampireX> So
[01:30] <XVampireX> Yeah
[01:30] <chalcedony> then here is good
[01:30] <XVampireX> Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 remix
[01:31] <XVampireX> Anyway, I don't get sound, if I unmute mic I can hear myself but there's no sound coming from either juk or flash or anything
[01:31] <favro> try in #kubuntu-kde4 XVampireX
[01:31] <XVampireX> probably somehow installed the codecs poorly
[01:31] <favro> they know about kde4
[01:32] <digistyl3> hi everyone, after a sudden powers shortage, kubuntu won't boot in my main pc
[01:32] <digistyl3> :}
[01:32] <digistyl3> :|
[01:32] <digistyl3> i tried knoppix too
[01:32] <Politics> ahhh!
[01:32] <digistyl3> it freezes at "Starting udev hot-plug hardware detection"
[01:32] <Politics> Pinged successfully
[01:32] <Politics> :D
[01:32] <chalcedony> Politics: kewl!
[01:32] <chalcedony> congratulations :)
[01:33] <favro> :)
[01:33] <Politics> thank you VERY much
[01:33] <digistyl3> does that mean my mobo is dead?
[01:33] <favro> digistyl3: does a live cd boot?
[01:33] <digistyl3> nope
[01:33] <digistyl3> knoppix freezes at the event i wrote a few lines before
[01:33] <favro> does the bios screen come up?
[01:33] <digistyl3> yes
[01:33] <jason|ca> ive a disk in the cdrom drive -- from working on a virtualbox machine - it was showing on the desktop - (kde) its not now -- nor in dolphin -- how do i get it to eject?
[01:34] <favro> knoppix is on a hard drive is it?
[01:34] <digistyl3> nope
[01:34] <digistyl3> it's on live cd
[01:34] <favro> digistyl3: ^^
[01:34] <digistyl3> kubuntu was on hard rive
[01:35] <favro> digistyl3: how far into boot does the hard drive go? - do you get to see grub?
[01:35] <digistyl3> favro: yes
[01:36] <digistyl3> favro: i removed the hard drive now
[01:36] <digistyl3> and tried to boot knoppix
[01:36] <digistyl3> but it freezes at starting udev
[01:37] <favro> digistyl3: that might be the sort of thing the good folk in #hardware will know about
[01:37] <favro> or is it ##hardware...
[01:38] <digistyl3> favro: thanks
[01:38] <favro> np - I wasn't much help :)
[01:42] <anom01y> is 440 MB ram ok to use for kubuntu ?
[01:43] <anom01y> I find it gets really slow when using firefox (3 or 4 tabs open), and kopete at the same time just wondering if its a lack of memory problem ?
[01:43] <anom01y> its a p4 2.8 ghz CPU
[01:53] <mn> Is there any way to make my system quit making backup files that are filename~?
[01:58] <aziz> mn: in Kate: Settings > Configure Kate... > Open/Save
[01:59] <mn> aziz:  thnx!
[01:59] <max__> can someone tell me how to enter in server italian of kubuntu? thanks
[02:00] <mn> !it
[02:15] <KDE_USR> how do i get a cd-rom to remount -- or eject?
[02:16] <mn> KDE_USR: sudo mount cdrom0 ?
[02:16] <mn> just a guess
[02:17] <mn> How do I create shortcuts on my desktop?
[02:17] <aziz> KDE_USR: $ eject
[02:18] <KDE_USR> mn says -- cant find cdrom0 in fstab or mtab
[02:18] <KDE_USR> aziz: says command not found
[02:19] <mn> is there a cd in the drive?
[02:19] <KDE_USR> yes -- i was using it to build a virtual box VM -- the session failed -- the disk disapeared off the desktop and i cant get it out
[02:20] <aziz> KDE_USR: sudo apt-get install eject
[02:20] <KDE_USR> says its the newest version
[02:22] <aziz> $ /usr/bin/eject
[02:25] <digistyl3> i set hdparm -B 255 on my dell studio 15, is 39-40C a safe temperature for my hdd?
[02:26] <KDE_USR> aziz    no response
[02:26] <aziz> KDE_USR: does it return to the console?
[02:26] <KDE_USR> yes - -no error message
[02:27] <aziz> hm, there might be a process still blocking it... don't know why it doesn't react
[02:27] <Makuseru> How can I change the user agent in Firefox or Konqueror? I was tryign to apply for something, but it said I needed Internet Explorer and Windows, and the User Agent Switcher plugin in Firefox dosnt work anymore.
[02:28] <KDE_USR> ok -- thanks guys
[02:55] <mn> how can i find out what version my KDE is?
[02:58] <mtoroyarzo> mn: kdesktop --version
[03:00] <mn> mtoroyarzo: It says 3.5.9, but I know I have 4.1.* installed.
[03:03] <favro> mn: don't you have to choose kde4 as the session at login?
[03:05] <mn> no
[03:05] <mn> it defaults
[03:07] <favro> mn: dpkg -l | grep kde4 should check if it is installed
[03:08] <mn> shows all KDE packages and then -KDE4 after them so I guess I have it
[03:08] <favro> k
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> mn- check what you have selected on the login screen
[03:08] <favro> seems it's not defaulting tho...
[03:09] <mn> Dragnslcr:last session
[03:12] <mn> Oops, I think I may have mispoken.  All of the things on the list have -KDE4 after them
[03:12] <mn> the first line: "ii  ark-kde4                                   4:4.1.1-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa3                         archive utility for KDE 4"
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> mn- well, the first problem is that kdesktop is a KDE3 program, since it shows 3.5.10 for me
[03:15] <mn> so sudo apt-get remove kdesktop?
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> I wouldn't bother
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> It isn't hurting anything, but "kdesktop --version" won't tell you what version of KDE is currently running
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> I just checked KMenu -> Help -> Help -> About, and it gives me 4.1.1
[03:17] <mn> Well, I think I will uninstall it because it's taking up disk space
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> Help -> About in any KDE app (Konqueror, Kopete, Konversation, etc.) should work
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> Okay, Konversation still says 3
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> What items are in the context menu if you right-click on the desktop?
[03:20] <mn> run command add widgets add panel desktop settings lock widgets lock screen leave
[03:20] <mn> I know I have 4.1.*
[03:21] <mn> but I want to know if I have 4.1.2 and if not how to get it
[03:21] <favro> the first line: "ii  ark-kde4                                   4:4.1.1-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa3  - says it is 4.1.1
[03:22] <mn> ah, unobservant me.  How can I upgrade it?
[03:23] <favro> ask in #kubuntu-kde4 ?
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> I don't think 4.1.2 is available
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> At least I haven't seen anything about it
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, nothing on the KDE or Kubuntu sites about 4.1.2 being released
[03:30] <Rioting_pacifist> !kismet
[03:32] <favro> !info kismet
[03:34] <Walzmyn> Kubuntu / Ubuntu has been much slicker than any other distro i've used - but why dosen't it detect a windows partition at install and make a grub entry for it?
[03:37] <favro> Walzmyn: it normally does...
[03:37] <Walzmyn> favro, hasn't for me twice
[03:38] <favro> Walzmyn: is it vista that it is missing
[03:38] <Walzmyn> nope, XP
[03:38] <favro> Walzmyn: I can paste the entry you need if it helps
[03:38] <Walzmyn> it would, i'm trying to google it
[03:39] <Walzmyn> thanks
[03:39] <favro> Walzmyn: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu/lst while I paste it :)
[03:39] <Walzmyn> favro, already there
[03:40] <favro> Walzmyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48771/
[03:41] <Walzmyn> favro,  thankyouverymuch
[03:41] <favro> np :)
[03:42] <mn> Why did it take so long to show what was on this CD?  It took like 5 minutes.   (It's an old Xubuntu by the way)
[03:44] <Walzmyn> what CD?
[03:44] <Walzmyn> are you running on the live CD or one you just put in your drive?
[03:54] <mn> Oh sorry
[03:54] <mn> I just put the cd in, im not running it
[03:55] <mn> Im on Kubuntu from HDD, I was just checking to see what this CD had on it
[03:57] <Walzmyn> favro, that menu entry is not working
[03:57] <Walzmyn> invalid device
[03:58] <favro> Walzmyn: sorry - I should have pointed out you need to change it to suit your setup
[03:58] <Walzmyn> I did
[03:58] <favro> Walzmyn: where's the xp install?
[03:58] <Walzmyn> I thought
[03:58] <Walzmyn> second partition
[03:58] <favro> on the first hard drive?
[03:59] <Walzmyn> changed it to hd0, 1
[03:59] <Walzmyn> only HDD
[03:59] <favro> (hd0,1) then
[03:59] <favro> hmmm
[04:00] <favro> Walzmyn: sudo fdisk -l   to check please
[04:00] <Walzmyn> hmm,
[04:00] <Walzmyn> i just fired up gparted
[04:01] <Walzmyn> this thing did weird
[04:01] <favro> k that'll do
[04:01] <Walzmyn> i've got 2 primary partitions - swap is one and everything else is logical
[04:01] <Walzmyn> why'd it do that?
[04:01] <Walzmyn> damn  i hate windows
[04:01] <favro> nothing wrong with that
[04:01] <Walzmyn> no reason for it, 4 partitions, just use primary
[04:02] <Walzmyn> this is calling windows sda5
[04:02] <favro> so   (sd0,4)
[04:03] <Walzmyn> sorry, got distracted, my team just lost it's football game
[04:03] <favro> hehe
[04:04] <Walzmyn> aight, gonna reboot. Thanks favro
[04:04] <favro> np :)
[04:12] <Kovert> ? is there a application like amarok for video? I want to be able to see like shoutcast has live streems Video programming
[04:12] <Walzmyn> no love
[04:13] <Kovert> and if not why dont one of you make one :-)
[04:14] <Walzmyn> is there anywya to kick in whatever is supposed to auto-detect winders at install and make it do it now?
[04:14] <Kovert> winders?
[04:15] <vinnie3> hello.. im using the new kubuntu with kde4. Can someone please tell me how to change the clock to AM/PM mode instead of the 24 hour mode?
[04:15] <Walzmyn> Winders == windows XP
[04:15] <Kovert> Walzmyn: what yah trying to so
[04:15] <Kovert> do
[04:15] <Walzmyn> !kde4
[04:16] <vinnie3> ty
[04:16] <Walzmyn> vinnie3,try #kubuntu-kde4
[04:16] <vinnie3> ty
[04:16] <Walzmyn> Kovert, i've installed dual boot, or at least I'm trying to, but i can't get winders to boot up now. It was not auto detected when i installed
[04:16] <Kovert> ah !grub
[04:17] <Walzmyn> !grub
[04:17] <Kovert> :-)
[04:17] <Walzmyn> i havent' lost it, it's just the windows enry i've put in isn't working
[04:17] <Kovert> read the docs
[04:18] <asobi> how do you pause upload in filezilla?
[04:19] <Kovert> didn't know that had a linux filezilla
[04:22] <mn> What command can I use to see what version I got?
[04:22] <Kovert> ,m you have a gui?
[04:25] <DrDigital> I was wondering if theirs a way i can lock my network cards so it quits changing
[04:25] <DrDigital> I use dhcp for ip/subnet/gateway
[04:25] <DrDigital> and on windows you can do this, i want a static ip for my dns
[04:25] <Kovert> use a dhcp reservation
[04:25] <DrDigital> the one my dhcp server currently is serving and i cant change that is invalid
[04:26] <DrDigital> and im new to ubuntu, i just installed it last night
[04:26] <DrDigital> but i have some linux knowledge, i own a dedicated server and im on a mac right now
[04:27] <Kovert> you want a static or a dhcp addy?
[04:27] <hacker> hi all
[04:27] <DrDigital> i want a dhcp ip, and a static dns
[04:27] <DrDigital> my ips are all real ips
[04:27] <Dragnslcr> DrDigital- do you control the DHCP server?
[04:28] <Kovert> so you can set static with ifconfig
[04:28] <DrDigital> no my modem does and i have no way to fix that
[04:28] <DrDigital> modem, to a 24 port switch
[04:29] <DrDigital> modem gives me 20 dhcp ips
[04:29] <Dragnslcr> Can't remember if it's the same in KDE3, but if you right-click the network icon in the systray and go to the settings, there should be a tab to specify addresses for DNS servers
[04:29] <DrDigital> and the dns is messed up, i can access ips fine but no nameservers
[04:29] <Walzmyn> this is pissing me off. I wonder if installing Kubuntu screwed up the winders install?
[04:29] <DrDigital> i have
[04:29] <Kovert> modems dont give IP's
[04:29] <DrDigital> and it keeps deleting and going back
[04:30] <Dragnslcr> Odd
[04:30] <Kovert> routers do
[04:30] <DrDigital> okay, well i have no router
[04:30] <DrDigital> its a cable modem to a switch
[04:30] <jonathan_> ?
[04:30] <Kovert> your router is in your I guess cable modem
[04:30] <DrDigital> and all my systems have real ips
[04:30] <favro> what's in /etc/resolv.conf?
[04:30] <DrDigital> okay, well i have no way to modify the dns its giving out
[04:30] <jonathan_> help, i speak espanish
[04:30] <Dragnslcr> Kovert- most cable and DSL modems also serve as routers
[04:31] <Kovert> ty favro
[04:31] <favro> !es
[04:31] <Dragnslcr> !es | jonathan_
[04:31] <jonathan_> oh
[04:31] <jonathan_> ok
[04:31] <Kovert> Dragnslcr: yeah but yu can shut them off :-)
[04:31] <jonathan_> thanks
[04:31] <DrDigital> favro,  the bad dns
[04:32] <DrDigital> all my other systems i have 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 and everything is all good
[04:32] <favro> DrDigital: you can edit that and restart networking
[04:32] <joseph> i have kde setup with multiple virtual desktops via the pager applet.  however, whenever i load an url from xchat, it always brings the firefox window over to this desktop.  how do i get it to load urls without leaving its own desktop?
[04:33] <favro> kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf
[04:33] <favro> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:33] <Kovert> thinks you should install esxi and pfsence
[04:33] <DrDigital> alright, i edited it
[04:34] <DrDigital> so the system cant change that on its own again?
[04:34] <Kovert> and don tyou a stupid cable / router /modem /diskwasher
[04:34] <favro> joseph: seems you have firefox setup to open links in a new window
[04:34] <favro> DrDigital: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:35] <DrDigital> yeah i done that already... just waiting
[04:35] <favro> k
[04:36] <DrDigital> done
[04:36] <DrDigital> and resolv.conf is the same again
[04:36] <DrDigital> bad dns's are back
[04:36] <Kovert> DrDigital: are you using dhcp ? change it to static
[04:37] <joseph> favro: in a new tab, not window
[04:37] <favro> DrDigital: in /etc/network/interfaces what is the nameserver?
[04:37] <Kovert> DrDigital: what are these bad dns servers?
[04:37] <favro> joseph: you might need to ask in firefox chat then - that's all I know about that
[04:38] <DrDigital> if i switch my ip to static it changes, windows allows you to do the top part in dhcp and assign a static dns, so does my mac... ubuntu cant do this?
[04:38] <joseph> favro: ok
[04:38] <DrDigital> Kovert, invalid ips
[04:39] <Kovert> DrDigital: I belive that practice is technically illegal
[04:39] <DrDigital> ive got like 15 computers here that all work perfectly fine doing what i been doing, just this one is different and i cant seem to figure out how to make it perform like the others
[04:39] <Kovert> DrDigital: any other linux?
[04:40] <DrDigital> so both Mac OS X and Windows XP and Vista break laws?
[04:40] <Kovert> DrDigital: yes
[04:40] <DrDigital> no, just the one system is
[04:40] <favro> DrDigital: in /etc/network/interfaces what is the nameserver? - youi may have to change two files
[04:40] <favro> s/youi/you/
[04:40] <Kovert> the issue is what it is resolvong to?
[04:41] <DrDigital> i dont see a name server
[04:41] <DrDigital> a dns of 0.1.2.3 isnt a valid dns now is it?
[04:42] <favro> DrDigital: I would add one and rechange resolv.conf and restart networking
[04:42] <DrDigital> k
[04:42] <favro> DrDigital: I wouldn't think that was valid
[04:43] <favro> DrDigital: my nameserver in interfaces is the nameserver in resolv.conf
[04:43] <Kovert> DrDigital: what do your lines look like "
[04:43] <Kovert> # The primary network interface
[04:43] <Kovert> auto eth0
[04:43] <Kovert> #iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:43] <Kovert> "
[04:43] <DrDigital> says it cant load the interfaces file
[04:43] <mn> why do I get this error when trying to update?
[04:43] <mn> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Kubuntu-KDE4 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080702)]/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[04:43] <DrDigital> auto lo
[04:43] <mn> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Kubuntu-KDE4 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080702)]/dists/hardy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[04:43] <mn> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:43] <DrDigital> xface lo inet loopback
[04:44] <DrDigital> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:44] <DrDigital> auto eth0
[04:44] <DrDigital> ifac eth1 inet dhcp
[04:44] <DrDigital> auto eth1
[04:44] <Kovert> is there  a # infount of either
[04:44] <DrDigital> no
[04:44] <DrDigital> that be commented out
[04:44] <DrDigital> the system actually has 4 nics
[04:44] <Kovert> put that infrount of iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:45] <Kovert> mn: look at the packages your selecting you have the cd rom selected
[04:45] <DrDigital> and where should i put a nameserver at
[04:45] <DrDigital> i need to give that system an internal ip as an alias
[04:45] <DrDigital> so i can ssh in and not have to keep walking back and forth
[04:45] <Kovert> I would try what I said first
[04:46] <mn> Kovert:  so it's trying to download a .iso or a .img from the repos?
[04:46] <DrDigital> i done it
[04:46] <Kovert> mn: no it is trying to find a cd rom thats isnt incerted
[04:46] <DrDigital> just waiting on it now
[04:46] <Kovert> restart
[04:47] <mn> Kovert: restarting will fix it?
[04:47] <Kovert> no that was for drd
[04:47] <Kovert> mn: you knwo how to edit the repos?
[04:48] <mn> The sources?
[04:48] <Kovert> yes
[04:48] <mn> yeah
[04:48] <mn> sources.list
[04:48] <Kovert> mn comment out the cd rom
[04:48] <Kovert> then open a console windows
[04:48] <Kovert> sudo apt-get update
[04:49] <DrDigital> resolve changed the entire look of it
[04:49] <DrDigital> but the ips i assigned are sticking
[04:49] <Kovert> :-)
[04:50] <Kovert> still stupid DNS?
[04:50] <mn> Kovert: done
[04:50] <Kovert> mn: apt-get done?
[04:50] <mn> no
[04:51] <Kovert> sudo apt-get update
[04:51] <mn> I mean I have edited the sources
[04:51] <DrDigital> no it seems to be fixed for now
[04:51] <DrDigital> so it was just a #
[04:51] <Kovert> yes you had confilicting settings
[04:51] <DrDigital> well the system has several nics, i dont get why only 2 are working, 3 are the same card
[04:52] <DrDigital> im using this system to test out network devices
[04:52] <DrDigital> remotely
[04:52] <DrDigital> all the other nics neet static local ips
[04:53] <Kovert> so assign them?
[04:53] <mn> Kovert: Ok i finished apt-get updating
[04:53] <DrDigital> the plan is to eventually make it a router/load balancer and ip-pbx system
[04:53] <DrDigital> well thanks for the help
[04:53] <Kovert> mn did that work
[04:53] <Kovert> drdigital asterisx?
[04:54] <DrDigital> yeah, a buddy owns a sip provider
[04:54] <DrDigital> hes going to help me do it all
[04:54] <mn> Well, it looks like it did but I was using update-manager when i got that error and it says Fetched 1B in 1min4s on apt-get
[04:54] <Kovert> mn: sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:54] <Kovert> let me know how it ends
[04:54] <mn> nothing new to install or anything
[04:55] <DrDigital> i only installed kubuntu to play with ktorrent
[04:55] <DrDigital> for rss feeds on tv shows
[04:55] <DrDigital> my tivo cant keep up with the woman
[04:55] <vinnie3> mn: ok... heres how i got it. <System Settings> <Regeonal & Language> <Time & Date> pH:MM:SS AMPM
[04:55] <Kovert> coud have used azureus
[04:55] <favro> rtorrent is the lightest
[04:55] <vinnie3> mn: then had to reboot for changes to take effect
[04:56] <DrDigital> and a friend told me about ktorrent
[04:56] <mn> vinnie3: mk ok, looks like they would have made that easier to do.  It's easy in GNOME.
[04:56] <vinnie3> thanx for help... gotta go for now... cyalll later
[04:56] <mn> Kovert:  So what now?
[04:56] <DrDigital> well its a 2.60ghz with 2 gigs of ram, i dont think i need to worry about lightest and what not  once i figure stuff out more ill put a core 2 duo with like 4 gigs of ram together
[04:56] <mn> later
[04:57] <mn> and np
[04:57] <DrDigital> how do i open port 22 up
[04:57] <DrDigital> so i can ssh in remotelty
[04:57] <DrDigital> remotely
[04:57] <Kovert> mn: sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:57] <mn> again?
[04:58] <Kovert> did you do that or just update?
[04:58] <mn> both
[04:58] <Kovert> so then your working
[04:58] <Kovert> mn: any errors?
[04:58] <mn> nope
[04:59] <mn> im using update-manager now to see with it
[04:59] <Kovert> mn: you can go home now
[04:59] <mn> lol k
[04:59] <mn> DrDigital:  Put your default gateway into a web browser.  That should take you to your router's web page.  then you should be able to find where you can open ports and such
[05:01] <DrDigital> i did
[05:01] <DrDigital> 'sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 22 -j ACCEPT'
[05:01] <DrDigital> didnt seem towork
[05:02] <DrDigital> mn... um the system has a real ip address
[05:02] <DrDigital> c-76-127-65-157:~ mmurphy$ ssh matthew@67.182.64.184
[05:02] <DrDigital> ssh: connect to host 67.182.64.184 port 22: Connection refused
[05:02] <DrDigital> c-76-127-65-157:~ mmurphy$
[05:02] <mn> DrDigital you have wireless?
[05:02] <DrDigital> this system is 76.127.65.157
[05:02] <DrDigital> nope, gigabit
[05:03] <mn> well, what I was saying was for a router
[05:03] <DrDigital> im reading this
[05:03] <DrDigital> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/how-to-open-ports-in-ubuntu-451282/
[05:03] <DrDigital> no
[05:03] <DrDigital> i have no router
[05:03] <mn> oh ok
[05:04] <DrDigital> cable modem connects to switch, cable modem does not have a web interface
[05:04] <DrDigital> it gives out real dhcp ips
[05:05] <DrDigital> but nothings static, thats why side by side i have a  67.182.64.184 and a 76.127.65.157 ip address
[05:05] <DrDigital> i just need to make the ssh server listen to port 22 i guess
[05:06] <DrDigital> i have to install a ssh server i guess
[05:06] <DrDigital> okay, old dns is back
[05:08] <DrDigital> when doing apt-get i get all these 403s
[05:08] <DrDigital> which i know is because of the dns
[05:08] <DrDigital> its fixed again and now ssh-server is installing
[05:09] <DrDigital> see, no matter how much i fix it, 10-20 minutes later everything i did goes away
[05:11] <DrDigital> i dont mean to be a pain in the ass, ill just live with this for now
[05:12] <DrDigital> i deal with repeative questions in #joomla so much that i made www.joomlamafia.com because i got tired of answering the same question 20 times a day
[05:21] <surgy> i forgot the defualt location of sources.list
[05:21] <surgy> etc/spt/sources.list?
[05:21] <surgy> !sources.list
[05:21] <surgy> !repository
[05:29] <mn> etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <jdnewmil> kernel problems with gutsy on an Athlon system (ASUS A7S333)... 2.6.22-14-generic freezes immediately after grub shows "(boot)"... I have to manually select 2.6.20-16-generic to get my system to do anything... have tried "noapic nolapic" boot options but seem to be unable to follow the current kernel ... can anyone suggest how to debug this?
[06:11] <davitru> hello
[06:11] <davitru> everybody
[06:16] <_2> davitru
[06:28] <yao_ziyuan> when installing adept 3.0,
[06:28] <yao_ziyuan> apt-get says "adept is kept back"
[06:28] <yao_ziyuan> although i used "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:28] <yao_ziyuan> how do i upgrade this adept package now?
[06:29] <owner> is it possible to change a flash drive to an HDD style write? like you can do to an iPod?
[06:30] <_2> yao_ziyuan maybe specify the version ?    apt-get install adept-3.0      example...
[06:30] <yao_ziyuan> let me see
[06:30] <jdnewmil> yao_ziyuan: don't worry about it... you may need to upgrade some other packages that aren't ready yet.
[06:31] <_2> that too    and if so apt will tell about it.
[06:31] <SkEmO> how do i format my flash drive? its password protected and the application refuses to run on wine
[06:32] <_2> SkEmO mkfs.<type> /dev/sda?        example
[06:32] <SkEmO> o.O
[06:32] <_2> SkEmO kdesudo qtparted     if you want a gui
[06:32] <SkEmO> uhm, kk
[06:33] <SkEmO> lemme try
[06:33] <owner> I recommend gparted
[06:33] <owner> it gives a little bit more graphical options
[06:33] <_2> owner gtk tho
[06:33] <owner> I can be run on KDE
[06:33] <owner> I just installed it
[06:34] <owner> *it
[06:34] <_2> owner not the point.    requires gtk and several megs of dependancies if he doesnt have it already
[06:34] <owner> ok then
[06:34] <owner> you could always put it on a liveCD in that case but I see where you're coming from
[06:36] <yao_ziyuan> jdnewmil: yeah i found out, it's adept-notifier
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> adept is 3.0 but adept-notifier, adept-updater is still 2.1
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> they can't work together
[06:37] <_2> there ya go then.
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> now i can run adept 3.0, but there is no updater/notifier
[06:38] <_2> and the ole'  if it aint broke, don't fix it!   phrase comes to mind.
[07:00] <morrison> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:01] <_2> bbbbbbbbbbbbbb
[07:03] <cheburek> what was the settings manager in kubuntu?
[07:04] <_2> cheburek kcontrol
[07:04] <_2> silent ?
[07:04] <cheburek> yes
[07:05] <cheburek> )
[07:05] <_2> i differ to beg.
[07:05] <cheburek> beg to differ 1st
[07:05] <_2> quiet != silent
[07:05] <CoJaBo-Eee> Are there things/settings that can be done to extend battery life?
[07:06] <cheburek> ok
[07:06] <_2> CoJaBo-Eee i'm sure.  but that's probably a question for google.com/linux
[07:07] <_2> i wish i knew some magic "run this command"  that would do that. but it's not that simeple
[07:07] <CoJaBo-Eee> I don't see any power-type settings in system settings,  just wondering if I missed them or something.
[07:07] <_2> simeple    o.O
[07:07] <CoJaBo-Eee> lol
[07:09] <cheburek> where is the theme manager?
[07:09] <_2> !theme
[07:09] <CoJaBo-Eee> cojabo@CoJaBo-Eee:~$ make battery last longer
[07:09] <CoJaBo-Eee> make: *** No rule to make target `battery'.  Stop.
[07:09] <cheburek> yeah, but in kubuntu
[07:09] <CoJaBo-Eee> :/
[07:10] <_2> lol
[07:11] <CoJaBo-Eee> :P
[07:11] <CoJaBo-Eee> Are there any power-releated options in controls, if not where is a good place to start looking?
[07:13] <cheburek> I can't find a true redmond theme for kubuntu, not XP
[07:13] <cheburek> not xp-redmond*
[07:14] <cheburek> _2, where is the theme manager in kubuntu ?
[07:14] <cheburek> I found it
[07:14] <favro> !changethemes
[07:14] <CoJaBo-Eee> Tho even if I get this laptop to run for many hours, my UPS is still going to die eventually no matter what I do lol
[07:15] <cheburek> is this a bug? I changed to redmond theme and now there is no panel!
[07:16] <cheburek> oh, there is
[07:16] <cheburek> lol
[07:16] <_2> no it's pebcak   ;/
[07:17] <cheburek> redmond theme in xubuntu was more similar to redmons :(
[07:17] <cheburek> redmond*
[07:17] <CoJaBo-Eee> lol
[07:17] <cheburek> isn't there a better redmond theme than the default one?
[07:52] <surgy> why do i keep getting this error from firefox http://pastebin.com/m70c2880f. seams like im getting it at every third site i try or so
[07:53] <CoJaBo-Eee> surgy: Server error, the site is overlooaded.
[07:53] <surgy> ok so it should be fixed in an hour or so?
[07:53] <surgy> i mean i got it from the wineappdb
[07:53] <Agent_bob> what are you doing  running ff in wine ?
[07:54] <CoJaBo-Eee> Agent_bob: Wine site is down.
[07:55] <CoJaBo-Eee> surgy: Ususaly they don't last long, either it is fixed or the number of users overloading it goes down.
[07:55] <surgy> thank you
[07:55] <Agent_bob> CoJaBo-Eee but   /home/winehq/opt/appdb/include/query.php  ?
[07:55] <CoJaBo-Eee> surgy: If you get a server error like that don;t keep reloading tho
[07:56] <CoJaBo-Eee> Agent_bob: It is generally consideered a bad thing for servers to give out paths like that, but many are misconfigured like that :/
[07:56] <CoJaBo-Eee> It even gives out the database username lol
[07:57] <Agent_bob> CoJaBo-Eee yeah  made me thing he was doing something in wine on the local system
[07:57] <CoJaBo-Eee> Yeah, its coming from the remote server, but it is a security issue to give out path and usernames like that lol
[07:58] <CoJaBo-Eee> Because of that, everyone visiting the site now knows the DB user and where files are stored.
[07:59] <Agent_bob> security through obsceurity is false now
[07:59] <Agent_bob> was only tenative at best tho
[07:59] <CoJaBo-Eee> Every bit helps, especially on webservers.
[08:00] <CoJaBo-Eee> Production servers usually have errors set to log instead, that way if someone is trying to hack it, they can't see where they are triggering errors. In this case, anyone can trigger it because its an overload error.
[08:01] <CoJaBo-Eee> Database errors are the worst, because they give out alarming amounts of data.
[08:02] <Agent_bob> should be ran with 2>>/var/log/server/database.oops
[08:09] <Stoffer> how do I edit Grub to change the default boot partition?
[08:14] <Agent_bob> Stoffer kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:17] <knic> how come in kde4 there is no media:/ ioslave?
[08:18] <Agent_bob> #kubuntu-kde4
[08:21] <devo>   i think someone is hack'n my computer rite now
[08:21] <Agent_bob> devo ps -A x
[08:21] <devo>   and the rason is cuz when i try to use Ktorrent it say's this "Someone has clogged the tubes!"
[08:22] <devo>   how can i get rid of the hacker in my computer???
[08:22] <Agent_bob> devo and cat /var/log/auth*
[08:22] <Politics> Anyone know if there's something I can do about how slow kwlan's GUI is?
[08:23] <Agent_bob> first make sure there is one...  then clicp their wings.  but save there info to use later :)))
[08:23] <devo>  i don't know what u r try'n to tell me srry i'm new with commands i don't know linux that well have been use'n it for about a month & i still don't know the damn command line's & what not's srry
[08:24] <devo>   so what u r try'n to tell me???
[08:24] <Stoffer> Agent_bob, I changed "default 0" to "default X_sequence"  - what exactly does that do?  All I noticed is that there's no countdown to the default partition anymore
[08:25] <Agent_bob> devo you can    sudo ifdown <iface>      to cut off a connection, if needed.   you can use guarddog/firestarter and iptables to block specific ip's
[08:25] <devo>  but i don't know how to use though's programs in linux i know very little about linux but still learn'n to this every day lol
[08:26] <Agent_bob> Stoffer sorry can you hold that Q please, or let someone else answer it.   i'll be back in a few.
[08:29] <Agent_bob> shoot.  i don't have grub on this box either.
[08:29] <Agent_bob> who was asking about menu.lst ?
[08:29] <Stoffer> me
[08:30] <Agent_bob> Stoffer ok repete what you last said
[08:30] <Agent_bob> you changed ????
[08:30] <Stoffer> I just followed a document on kubuntu.org and was wondering what setting the default to x_sequence in grub.lst would do
[08:30] <Stoffer> all the doc says is to change it
[08:30] <Agent_bob> Stoffer ok x_sequence needs inturpreted   it's numeric
[08:31] <ilkin> People, do you know why Kubuntu shows images so bad?
[08:31] <Agent_bob> Stoffer i.e.  the first listing is 0  the next one is 1 the next is 2 ...
[08:31] <Stoffer> yeah, i have like 10 in the boot list
[08:31] <Stoffer> a million ubuntu's and 1 xp at the end
[08:31] <Agent_bob> Stoffer what i normally did was move the one that you want to default to to the top of the file.
[08:32] <Agent_bob> Stoffer way up top.
[08:32] <Stoffer> ah ok
[08:32] <Agent_bob> Stoffer and leave the default=0 so it will kick off the first one.
[08:32] <Stoffer> so having "default x_sequence" chooses nothing?
[08:33] <Agent_bob> Stoffer right
[08:33] <Stoffer> ah
[08:33] <Stoffer> ok, i'll go back and change it later
[08:33] <Stoffer> thanks
[08:33] <Agent_bob> Stoffer in fact that would generate an erro.
[08:33] <Agent_bob> error   ^
[08:33] <Stoffer> http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/hardware/C/harddrives.html
[08:34] <Agent_bob> because "default " is looking for a numeric value.    and the author of that doc used x as a numeric indicator
[08:34] <Stoffer> oh
[08:34] <Stoffer> well then I totally misunderstood
[08:34] <Stoffer> lol
[08:35] <Stoffer> not very clear instructions if you ask me
[08:35] <Stoffer> in either case now I know what to do, thanks
[08:35] <Stoffer> gotta crash though
[08:35] <Stoffer> have a good one
[08:35] <Agent_bob> Stoffer k luck to your pinguin
[08:38] <Agent_bob> yeah that doc is very poorly writen.
[08:38] <Agent_bob> it's got gruff all in it.
[08:38] <Agent_bob> uncomment "hiddenmenu" to unhide the menu  ?
[08:40] <Agent_bob> also the habitual use of  "X_.*"  to indicate a number is confusing at best.
[08:40] <Agent_bob>  timeout X_seconds
[08:40] <Agent_bob>  default X_sequence
[08:40] <miksu> Päiviä !
[08:41] <Agent_bob> miksu you the one with the assumed visitor ?
[08:42] <Agent_bob> !firewall
[08:43] <Agent_bob> ummm isn't there a new "fw.*"   command also ?
[08:43] <favro> !ufw
[08:43] <Agent_bob> !info ufw
[08:43] <Agent_bob> that's it.
[08:43] <favro> :)
[08:45] <Agent_bob> tell me, am i really so wierd for changing root's name ?
[08:47] <favro> maybe just unique Agent_bob
[08:48] <Agent_bob> granted not using any partitions is a bit wierd, i guess.     and having the entire system "nosuid" takes some getting used too...    but why does everyone freek out when i mention changing root's name to something more descrete
[08:48] <Agent_bob> well almost everyone.
[08:51] <Agent_bob> and then adding a normal user named root with a blank password and a chrooted login....        well enough about that, you get the gist
[08:53] <Agent_bob> is it a trap ?    no it's just a naturally confining situation, which provides specific information.   not a trap!
[09:05] <chegee> hi to all
[09:06] <Agent_bob> chegee
[09:07] <chegee> I have some questions
[09:07] <Agent_bob> that wasn't one of them.
[09:08] <Sarasvati> Hello
[09:08] <Agent_bob> Sarasvati
[09:08] <Sarasvati> Hey how are you?
[09:08] <Agent_bob> tov  and you
[09:08] <Agent_bob> err good   and you ?
[09:09] <Sarasvati> Bit pissed off, I am trying to get linux on my dad's pc, but it doesn't work for some reason
[09:09] <Sarasvati> mazzel tov :P
[09:09] <Agent_bob> yes. i can see that.
[09:10] <Sarasvati> Put a cd in it, and it doesn't want to boot...
[09:10] <Agent_bob> Sarasvati does it come to the cd boot menu  or does it not get that far ?
[09:10] <Sarasvati> Nope, it keeps on starting up as windows
[09:11] <Agent_bob> Sarasvati ok that's a bios setting.   you'll have to power off   and when you power on   press the key/s to access the bios settings,  and enable it to boot from cd/dvd first.
[09:12] <Sarasvati> s= escape?
[09:12] <chegee> I have not sound in my system, but when I write in console "asoundconf list" it gives me that "avaliable sound card: CK8S", so question: how I can to set up my sound system?
[09:13] <Agent_bob> some keys i have seen are   left-shift  f1  f2  f8  and del    can't say i have see one that escape would access it.  but that doesn't mean that yours isn't setup that way.
[09:13] <Agent_bob> !sound | chegee perhaps this page will help you.
[09:14] <Agent_bob> the second one    ^
[09:14] <Sarasvati> Agent_Bob: Okay I'll try that :) Let's see if it wotjs :)
[09:16] <Agent_bob> also i noticed that if you power on with a windows vesta recovery dvd in the drive, even though you select to do nothing it resets bios to NOT boot from cd/dvd    really ticks me off,  as does everything else about M$.
[09:18] <Sarasvati> Agent_Bob: I get in some sort of menu when I push the key/s, but I can't select it to boot with ubuntu
[09:19] <Agent_bob> sounds like the micro$oft windows boot manager   rather than the bios settings.     hard to say from here.
[09:19] <Agent_bob> what was it called    ntldr   ?
[09:19] <Sarasvati> Agent_Bob: I am now in a menu where I can give a boot order, it is bios
[09:19] <Sarasvati> But it doesn
[09:19] <Sarasvati> react when I select cd
[09:20] <Agent_bob> it wont react until you save the changes and exit
[09:20] <Agent_bob> if we are using the word the same.
[09:21] <Sarasvati> Agent_bob: well, now it just says boot order: and then shows drives, but I can't select the cd in the first place
[09:22] <Agent_bob> read any on screen help    not knowing your bios i can't advise
[09:24] <Sarasvati> Agent_Bob: Okay I'll try something :)
[09:25] <Sarasvati> Agent_bob: is there a general save button in these bios's?
[09:26] <Agent_bob> depends entirely on the bios   some use f10   some esc
[09:26] <Agent_bob> others ...
[09:26] <Agent_bob> just remember any changes you make,  you may have to undo them
[09:27]  * Agent_bob waits for the "now he tells me" ...
[09:27] <Sarasvati> Agent_Bob: YEEEY! It worked! We got Linux :D Thanx a lot :D
[09:27] <drumma> how do I disable animation on panel icons click?
[09:27] <Sarasvati> Agent_bob: Well, it's installing now :)
[09:27] <Agent_bob> Sarasvati welcome     >                         < this much :)
[09:28] <Sarasvati> More welcome to my dad, I have used linux for 1 and a half year now :)
[09:28] <Agent_bob> about 9 years here...
[09:29] <Sarasvati> That's a long time :)
[09:29] <Agent_bob> drumma in kcontrol > look and feel >      kde3  if kde4 see bot message   !kde4
[09:29] <Sarasvati> I think it just works perfect, I only have a problem getting my wacom tablet to work on two screens at home :P
[09:30] <Sarasvati> Agent_bob: Is ubuntu that fast with emptying the pc? There was a lot on my dad's pc, including over 600 virusses
[09:30] <patricio> hi na
[09:30] <Agent_bob> i really only had one reason for switching from M$   "EULA"  but that was enough reason for me.
[09:31] <drumma> Agent_bob, there's no look and feel ther
[09:31] <Guest36870> gib ma bitte login zum chat
[09:31] <Agent_bob> drumma it is kde3 ?
[09:31] <Sarasvati> Agent_bob: What was that reason?
[09:32] <drumma> Agent_bob, yes
[09:32] <Agent_bob> Sarasvati "EULA" = end user license agreement    the M$ if you click yes we own you and your house and your famiely and ....     thingy
[09:32] <Agent_bob> i actually read one.
[09:33] <Agent_bob> drumma its the top itom on the list in the left colomn in kcontrol
[09:33] <patricio_> hi
[09:33] <Sarasvati> Agent_bob: 8/, didn't know they did that...
[09:33] <Agent_bob> patricio_
[09:33] <patricio_> jo
[09:34] <Agent_bob> Sarasvati you should read an eula from micro soft some time.
[09:34] <patricio__> was gibs
[09:34] <drumma> Agent_bob, "APeearance and themes" ?
[09:34] <Sarasvati> Agent_Bob: I just got fed up with the virusses and expensive not-working programs, a friend of mine just discoeverd Linux and put it on my laptop, and never had problems ever since
[09:34] <Agent_bob> drumma yeah ok.
[09:34] <patricio__> kanste deutsch reden
[09:35] <bazhang> !de
[09:35] <patricio__> ich möchte ein chat
[09:35] <Agent_bob> bazhang you come in here just to quick draw me ?
[09:36] <patricio__> hi cris
[09:36] <DrDigital> how can i get this done, I have 2 NICs, one has a real IP, the other I want to assign a local static ip to it so that someone could login to the real ip and access the local ip
[09:37] <Agent_bob> DrDigital you setup the static ip in /etc/network/interfaces  and you set the other as the default gateway
[09:37] <DrDigital> if i cant access http://192.168.1.2 myself at the system how are they going to be able to? firefox is trying to use just the 1 nic
[09:38] <Agent_bob> DrDigital you'll need to enable ipv4_forwarding in /etc/sysctl also
[09:38] <DrDigital> i have someone thats going to use VNC and show me how to replace the firmware on some devices
[09:38] <Agent_bob> DrDigital and what do you mean access it?      there will have to be something listening on it.
[09:39] <DrDigital> vnc works
[09:39] <DrDigital> its all web based
[09:40] <DrDigital> am i not being clear? im a bit tired
[09:40] <Agent_bob> the point remains.  if there is nothing listening on the 192.168.1.2 interface you can't "access" it.
[09:40] <DrDigital> the AP has that ip
[09:42] <Agent_bob> ok we are not talking the same language.    there is  #ubuntu (because your question is not kde specific)   and there is ##linux  (which is a good networking channel at times)    i'll let someone do what i can't.
[09:42] <DrDigital> alright
[09:43] <DrDigital> thanks
[09:43] <Agent_bob> welcome
[09:55] <Sarasvati> Agent_Bob: still there?
[09:57] <any> ?
[09:57] <any> hello
[09:57] <Agent_bob> Sarasvati yeah
[09:57] <Sarasvati> Hello :D
[09:57] <any> ?
[09:58] <Sarasvati> Agent_Bob: Never mind problem solved :P
[09:58] <Sarasvati> Any is confused I think
[10:00] <Agent_bob> any   did you need something ?
[10:00] <Agent_bob> ooops gone.
[10:00] <Agent_bob> i'll have to look before i leap
[10:01] <Agent_bob> or look silly after i leap as has been the case....
[10:05] <Agent_bob> well i'm off to lunch, and then to a meeting.  so i'll see you folks when.
[10:07] <Sarasvati> Hello :)
[10:08] <Sarasvati> Anybody knows how to find the administrator button?
[10:10] <favro> Sarasvati: there isn't a button - you give yourself admin rights from the terminal
[10:10] <favro> !sudo | sras
[10:10] <favro> Sarasvati: ^^
[10:10] <Sarasvati> FAvro: where can I find the terminal?
[10:11] <favro> Sarasvati: it is in the system menu under konsole
[10:12] <Sarasvati> I'm now in konsole, what do I have to type?
[10:14] <Werdna> hi! I'm interested in doing some development for kopete on my kubuntu 8.10 desktop. I'm busily checking out from SVN. What else do I need to do to get the environment set up? Is there a page with all these details?
[10:14] <Sarasvati> Favro: what do I have to type to get administrator rights in konsole?
[10:15] <_LiNuX_> hi... i have a desktop cube and i want in every part of the cube has a differend wallpaper is any way to do that?
[10:15] <joseph> Sarasvati: use sudo
[10:15] <favro> Sarasvati: you get admin rights for an application - so   sudo applicationname
[10:15] <joseph> _LiNuX_: yes
[10:15] <_LiNuX_> how?
[10:15] <joseph> _LiNuX_: i don't know. but i know you can do it.
[10:15] <Werdna> !faq
[10:16] <joseph> !cvs
[10:16] <joseph> Werdna: may want to check that out too
[10:16] <joseph> not sure if kopete uses cvs, though
[10:17] <guilleswe> I installed kubuntu yesterday via windows, but i dont see any partition, where is it and how do i erase it? i want to install it in a another disk
[10:17] <guilleswe> !uninstall
[10:17] <guilleswe> !delete
[10:17] <Werdna> joseph: kopete is on the KDE svn.
[10:17] <joseph> Werdna: ok :)
[10:17] <Werdna> I'm just after a build environment setup
[10:18] <guilleswe> !purge
[10:18] <favro> !build-essentials
[10:19] <favro> !wubi
[10:19] <guilleswe> but wubi dows not open to uninstall
[10:19] <Sarasvati> Favro: what's the applicationname for getting internet to work?
[10:20] <Sarasvati> Isn't it possible to get administrator rights for everything?
[10:20] <favro> Sarasvati: ther's knetworkmanager on your panel
[10:21] <Sarasvati> Favro: Where is theknetworkmanager then?
[10:22] <guilleswe> how the fuck do i uninstall kubuntu if installed via wubi?!!!
[10:22] <kushou> hi
[10:22] <guilleswe> sorry for the language, i am just frustrated
[10:22] <favro> Sarasvati: the panel is the strip across the bottom - knetworkmanager should be an icon on the right
[10:23] <favro> guilleswe: you go to add/remove afaik
[10:23] <Sarasvati> Favro: Ah we just gto somewhere, we'll try from here then :)
[10:23] <favro> :)
[10:23] <joseph> guilleswe: use a partition editor to delete the linux partitions
[10:23] <joseph> partition magic maybe
[10:25] <guilleswe> jospeh, the problem is that i installed via wubi and it does not show any partitions where kubuntu is installed
[10:26] <guilleswe> it just shows my three partitions with correct size, still everytime in rebbot, the black windows to choose between xp and kubuntu comes up, if i choose kubuntu it starts kubuntu as normal
[10:26] <guilleswe> where is it then?
[10:26] <Sarasvati> Favro: how do I get an IP-address?
[10:28] <favro> Sarasvati: you use dhcp to have your router assign it or set a static one
[10:28] <joseph> guilleswe: you might try formatting the MBR
[10:28] <Sarasvati> Favro: we still don't have any internet....
[10:29] <Sarasvati> Favro: Ah, we have to reboot, then we'll try that first :)
[10:29] <favro> Sarasvati: I edit the file myself to set static addresssarasif you made changes try in konsole   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:29] <guilleswe> joseph, yeah it hought the MBR was the problem, that it was just the kubuntu name ther, but then how does it mangaes to open kubuntu? the files have to be somewhere
[10:30] <favro> oops
[10:30] <joseph> guilleswe: you have to tell the boot loader to load your windows partition
[10:30] <joseph> guilleswe: see your grub configuration
[10:30] <favro> Sarasvati: try in konsole   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:34] <Sarasvati> Favro: OK, it's doing something now, although I don't know what  yet :P
[10:34] <guilleswe> joseph i dont have a grub
[10:34] <joseph> guilleswe: then check your lilo.conf
[10:34] <guilleswe> in kubuntu, at this moment i am in windows
[10:35] <guilleswe> i just want to get ride of the shit
[10:35] <joseph> so delete the partitions
[10:35] <guilleswe> i dont have any
[10:35] <guilleswe> let me show you how partition magic looks like
[10:35] <joseph> if you don't have any linux partitions, then it's not installed
[10:36] <joseph> which then makes me think you forgot to eject the linux cd out of your cdrom
[10:36] <joseph> which would be pretty bad.
[10:36] <Sarasvati> Favro: It says it has problems with interface: no such device
[10:37] <favro> Sarasvati: what are you trying to set up? - ethernet or wireless?
[10:40] <guilleswe> her eis what happens, i start the computer, i get's pass the "boot from CD" coz i dont have any cd in. it gets pass where the grub usually comes up, adn then a black windows ( i am sure this window is from microsoft (MBR)) asking me if i want to use windows xp or kubuntu, whichever i choose they open perfectly
[10:41] <joseph> ok
[10:41] <guilleswe> when i check the disk for partition there are none, it seems kubuntu has been installed in c as a windows aplication, but now i want to uninstall it, but i cant.
[10:41] <joseph> so go into command prompt in windows, use fdisk to delete the linux partitions
[10:41] <joseph> easy.
[10:41] <joseph> as a windows application?
[10:41] <joseph> whoah
[10:41] <joseph> how'd you install it to begin with?
[10:41] <Sarasvati> Favro: wireless
[10:42] <guilleswe> well that is what the wibu does
[10:42] <joseph> wow
[10:42] <favro> Sarasvati: I don't use wireless but read this link
[10:42] <guilleswe> it is the first time, when i downloaded the cd and burn it, a windowss came up telling me that i could install kubuntu as a windows aplication, and so i did
[10:42] <favro> !wifi | Sarasvati
[10:43] <guilleswe> see the pic joseph, no partitions with linux in it, my only suspect is that i think i am not sure that the used size in C is bigger than before, but i dont find anyfiles with kubuntu i it
[10:43] <joseph> ok
[10:43] <joseph> well, if it's an application, use add/remove programs in the control panel
[10:44] <guilleswe> i am there dont see anything with kubuntu or ubuntu in it
[10:44] <Sarasvati> Favro &Ubottu: Okay, I'll take a look at it :) First I'll take a shower though :P
[10:44] <Sarasvati> BRB
[10:46] <joseph> guilleswe: weird.
[10:47] <joseph> see, this is precisely why you don't have 2 operating systems on one computer
[10:47] <joseph> it's just wrong.
[10:47] <joseph> man can only serve one master!
[10:48] <joseph> guilleswe: sorry, man, i guess i can't help
[10:55] <jonathan_> any ideas why this in an bash script doesn't work?
[10:55] <jonathan_> ftp -u ftp://"$ftp_user":"$ftp_password"@"$ftp_host"/"$ftp_dir"/ nowPlaying.txt Cover.jpg
[10:55] <jonathan_> it just does nothing
[10:56] <gae> !lista
[10:56] <gae> ciaoooo
[10:56] <gae> !list
[10:57] <joseph> !it > gae
[10:57] <jonathan_> ??
[10:58] <joseph> jonathan_: do you have all those variables set?
[10:58] <jonathan_> yes
[10:59] <joseph> have you tried it without the quotes?
[10:59] <jonathan_> no, that's an idea
[10:59] <jonathan_> wait
[11:02] <jonathan_> hm
[11:02] <jonathan_> no changes
[11:03] <joseph> why don't you just put in the data instead of using variables?
[11:03] <adenin> hello, what is the best way to install mplayer ?
[11:04] <jonathan_> because the data is variable
[11:04] <patricio__> bertizuligastergerdafterhingersterra instal old media
[11:04] <jonathan_> ok found out
[11:04] <jonathan_> there was a library missing
[11:05] <adenin> ok, i found it; sudo apt-get install mplayer
[11:05] <joseph> jonathan_: there ya go
[11:22] <Colonel_Panic> anybody alive in here?
[11:22] <Colonel_Panic> I'm having problems with Audacity
[11:23] <Tm_T> !helpme
[11:23] <Colonel_Panic> won't record
[11:33] <regital> hi. i have kubuntu 8.04 and i was wondering how do i change the bootsplash?
[11:33] <regital> i tried googling it, but couldnt really find anything
[11:35] <PhilRod> !usplash
[11:35] <PhilRod> regital: ^^^
[11:36] <regital> thanks ^^
[11:47] <regital> hmm... isnt there a graphical way to do it?
[12:10] <Haza> Morning folks. I wanted to use multiple moniters so i changed some setigns and was told to restart my xserver or something
[12:10] <Haza> now my graphics are completely messed up and i cannot see much of the desktop
[12:11] <Haza> What might be the command i can use to reconfigure the graphics via a terminal?
[12:11] <Haza> Ive done it before but i cannot remember what it is :(
[12:12] <favro> Haza: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:13] <Haza> favro: Cheers mate. I will give it a try
[12:14] <Haza> What might be my default driver do you think?
[12:14] <Haza> Vesa?
[12:15] <favro> vesa is the safe choice
[12:15] <favro> lspci | grep VGA   will tell which card it is
[12:15] <Haza> Okay. i just need to get the basic graphics working again anyhow. Like i said before the desktop is completely screwed :)
[12:15] <favro> go with vesa
[12:16] <favro> hint - with a backup you have a file you can restore in these situations :)
[12:17] <Haza> maybe i should check the /etc/X11 folder for a backup?
[12:17] <favro> I would
[12:24] <Colonel_Panic> anybody in herfe?
[12:24] <Colonel_Panic> *here*
[12:25] <favro> Colonel_Panic: yep
[12:26] <favro> Colonel_Panic: people drop in and out :)
[12:28] <Colonel_Panic> I can'r get any sound input
[12:28] <Colonel_Panic> I'm using an old Sound Blaster LIVE!
[12:28] <Colonel_Panic> card
[12:28] <favro> does the command   aplay -l   list the card?
[12:28] <Colonel_Panic> I can hear the mic soounds through the speakers, but none of the programs can record it
[12:28] <favro> k
[12:29] <Colonel_Panic> yeah, ity's listed
[12:30] <Colonel_Panic> http://www.pastebin.ca/1207351
[12:30] <favro> first check is run   alsamixer   in konsole and make sure all are turned up
[12:30] <Colonel_Panic> why can I not get audacity or any other programs to record sound?
[12:30] <Colonel_Panic> I can'r even use Skype
[12:30] <dicky> fdgdfg
[12:31] <Colonel_Panic> alsamixer?
[12:31] <favro> yep - type that in konsole
[12:31] <dicky> who is this person from indonesia ?
[12:31] <gs> merhaba
[12:31] <gs> kim bana yardımıc olabilir?
[12:32] <Colonel_Panic> well, MIc is all the way up
[12:32] <Colonel_Panic> 100%
[12:32] <favro> !english | gs
[12:32] <gs> ok
[12:32] <favro> Colonel_Panic: is input turned up?
[12:32] <gs> can ı ask a qestion
[12:32] <favro> sure
[12:32] <Colonel_Panic> Input...
[12:33] <gs> ı am try to use azureıs program
[12:33] <favro> Colonel_Panic: in alsamixer
[12:33] <Tm_T> !azureus | gs
[12:33] <gs> pear 2 pear program
[12:33] <Tm_T> (:)
[12:33] <gs> but
[12:33] <gs> ı can not fint search
[12:33] <gs> can u help me
[12:33] <Colonel_Panic> where is that? I don't even see it
[12:33] <favro> gs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[12:35] <favro> Colonel_Panic: if it's not there you can't turn it up - I'll have a quick google about your card
[12:35] <Colonel_Panic> http://i38.tinypic.com/xat3sy.png
[12:35] <Colonel_Panic> that's what my alsamixer looks like
[12:35] <gs> now trying to find solutions on this web adress
[12:38] <Colonel_Panic> see the screenshot I posted?
[12:38] <Colonel_Panic> The opnly fader not shown in that pic is "Master" which is about 75% volume
[12:44] <favro> Colonel_Panic: lots of bugs about your card
[12:44] <Colonel_Panic> eh?
[12:44] <Colonel_Panic> What kinds of bugs?
[12:44] <Colonel_Panic> can you paste a link?
[12:45] <favro> Colonel_Panic: there's a skype bug with that card  - "Unfortunately, SB Live! currently has an issue when running through default (it has since the beginning of the 1.4 development). We expect to do more audio engine work soon"
[12:46] <Colonel_Panic> nice...What's a good sound card I could replace it with?
[12:46] <favro> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=153&t=101297 - near the top
[12:46] <msnbot> Hello, I use kubuntu normally. But for test I installed ubuntu-desktop. after test I removed the ubuntu by issuing apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop. The problem is ubuntu-desktop is uninstalled, not the software packages that comes with ubuntu. Now I have lots of ubuntu software. How do I remove those?? any shortcut??
[12:46] <Colonel_Panic> I don't like the idea of buying a new sound card, but if I have to, what should I get?
[12:46] <favro> !purekde | msnbot
[12:47] <favro> Colonel_Panic: I wouldn't know what to recommend - check for linux and skype compatability before you buy
[12:49] <msnbot> favro:  Thanks a lot
[12:50] <Colonel_Panic> so you're saying there's a hardware incompatiblilty that won't allow me to configure the input at all?
[12:51] <favro> Colonel_Panic: I had a quick google and found that site - there may be ways to get it working - google will be your freind for that :)
[12:51] <jtisme> is sound juicer the best for ripping audio cd's
[12:51] <msnbot> favro:  I have xubuntu as well, I want to keep xubuntu.
[12:51] <msnbot> will it remove xubuntu too?
[12:51] <Colonel_Panic> what if I use OSS?
[12:52] <favro> msnbot: I've never removed a *buntu-desktop so can only offer that link
[12:52] <Colonel_Panic> Is there any anything I can do to get it working?
[12:52] <favro> msnbot: I've never removed a *buntu-desktop so can only offer that link
[12:52] <favro> msnbot: I've never removed a *buntu-desktop so can only offer that link
[12:52] <favro> Colonel_Panic: I had a quick google and found that site - there may be ways to get it working - google will be your freind for that :)
[12:52] <favro> sorry msnbot :)
[12:52] <harriet> hi, I have Kubuntu 8.04. I used to use Apt-cahe, but removed it as it was not needed anymore. Now I can't reload the repositories or anything, help!
[12:52] <Colonel_Panic> what was the URL?
[12:53] <favro> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=153&t=101297 - near the top
[12:53] <max_> msg nickserv register giuseppe76-- tanino111@gmail.com
[12:53] <favro> harriet: did you do   sudo apt-get clean   or something else?
[12:53] <Colonel_Panic> Well, it's not just Skype that I want to use
[12:54] <favro> max_: you need the / in front
[12:54] <Colonel_Panic> I also want to use Audacity and/or Ardour
[12:54] <Colonel_Panic> but I can't get either of them to record
[12:55] <favro> Colonel_Panic: it's got to do with the card's setup you'll need to google for it - that is all I could do to help
[12:55] <Colonel_Panic> BTW, I'm on a 64-bit system myself
[12:56] <favro> max_: and it is best to do that in the server tab - your email address is now in the logs for all to peruse...
[12:57] <msnbot> favro: its okay.
[12:58] <favro> +
[13:04] <max_> qui si discute anche di kubuntu o esiste un'altro canale?
[13:04] <lokai> Are there any companies that sell VPN access to their servers?
[13:04] <lokai> !kubuntu-it
[13:04] <lokai> #kubuntu-it maybe.
[13:05] <favro> !it
[13:05] <favro> lokai: someone in #ubuntu-server might know
[13:06] <lokai> thanks favro
[13:06] <favro> np
[13:13] <Sarasvati> Favro: Hey Favro, it's still not working, the internet
[13:19] <Sarasvati> Hello, anyone there?
[13:23] <Sarasvati> ?
[13:23] <jussi01> no
[13:23] <Sarasvati> no?
[13:23] <jussi01> no, we are not here :P
[13:24] <jussi01> Sarasvati: just ask your question.
[13:24] <Sarasvati> I'm hearing voices... must become schizophrenic..
[13:24] <jussi01> hehe
[13:24] <Sarasvati> I can't get internet to work on my dad's pc, just put ubuntu on it
[13:24] <Sarasvati> But it nags me for network admins
[13:24] <blendtux> hi everybody, the kde 8.04 with kde4 remix, wich version of kde is that, kde 4.1.1 or some older version
[13:24] <jussi01> Sarasvati: ok, how is it connected? wired or wireless?
[13:25] <Sarasvati> I just can't get it to work :(
[13:25] <jussi01> blendtux: #kubuntu-kde4thanks
[13:25] <Sarasvati> Jussi01: wireless
[13:25] <jussi01> Sarasvati: usb or built in?
[13:25] <Sarasvati> But I can't see any connection on it yet...
[13:25] <Sarasvati> There's no icon
[13:26] <Sarasvati> It's a card-thing, the laptop is practically antique
[13:26] <jussi01> ok.
[13:26] <jussi01> Sarasvati: are you familiar with the terminal?
[13:27] <Sarasvati> I have used it before, but I'm still terrible when it comes to ICT :P
[13:27] <jussi01> ok
[13:27] <Sarasvati> But I know how to start it up :P
[13:27] <jussi01> Sarasvati: please open a terminal
[13:27] <jussi01> then, type: lspci
[13:28] <jussi01> finally copy what it says, and pastebin it for me.
[13:28] <jussi01> !paste
[13:28] <Sarasvati> Now it says a lot of things, and now?
[13:28] <Sarasvati> Ow, I first have to copy that to a USB and then to this pc
[13:29] <jussi01> ok.
[13:32] <DeXxX> hi all
[13:33] <jussi01> hi DeXxX
[13:34] <DeXxX> :)
[13:34] <DeXxX> where you from jussi01
[13:34] <DeXxX> ?
[13:34] <jussi01> DeXxX: this is a support channel, if you want to chat, please head over to #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:36] <Sarasvati> Jussi01: I pasted it
[13:37] <jussi01> Sarasvati: did you press paste?
[13:37] <Sarasvati> Jussi01: Under my name
[13:37] <jussi01> I need the url
[13:37] <Sarasvati> Yup
[13:37] <Sarasvati> http://paste.ubuntu.com/48884/
[13:38] <jtisme> does sound juicer run under kubuntu
[13:38] <DeXxX> ima li ot bg tyka
[13:40] <jussi01> jtisme: yes
[13:40] <jtisme> jussi01, thanks
[13:40] <jussi01> Sarasvati: hrm, seems that card has a bug. not sure if its been fixed yet :(
[13:40] <jussi01> bug 106987
[13:41] <Sarasvati> Okay, so it won't work unless I put a new card in?
[13:42] <jussi01> Sarasvati: it "might" but Id say a new card would be an easier option.
[13:44] <Sarasvati> Okay, then I'll tell my dad he just has to get an new card, and I will put the rest of what he needs on the pc at my home
[13:44] <jussi01> Sarasvati: just make sure you research that you get a linux compaitble one...
[13:44] <Sarasvati> Jussi01: It also nags me for administrator functions, you have any idea how I can put administrator-thingey on it?
[13:45] <Sarasvati> Jussi01: I will :)
[13:45] <jussi01> Sarasvati: what do you mean?
[13:45] <jussi01> (about the admin stuff?)
[13:46] <Sarasvati> Well, if I want to change something, it says I need to be an network administrator or something...
[13:46] <Sarasvati> I don't have that on my own notebook
[13:47] <jussi01> hrm, Im unsure on what you are trying to get across, can you give me a specific situation?
[13:47] <Sarasvati> So I wondered how I could make the first user such an administrator so I can change things on that laptop if I want to
[13:48] <Sarasvati> Okay, if I go to network connections fe, it says 'click the administrator mode button to allow modifications'
[13:48] <Sarasvati> If I click on it and give the password etc, I just get a cubicle with red sides
[13:49] <Sarasvati> If I go back, it wants me to select the admin mode again
[13:49] <jussi01> yes, thats a security thing. you need admin mode to be able to change things.
[13:50] <Sarasvati> How do I get admin mode automatically with the first user?
[13:50] <Sarasvati> Or is that not possible?
[13:50] <jussi01> Sarasvati: that is highly not recomended
[13:50] <Sarasvati> Okay, then I won't do it... :)
[13:50] <jussi01> :)
[13:51] <Sarasvati> Then I'll just take that laptop home with me and work with it further there :P
[13:51] <jussi01> ok. :)
[13:51] <Sarasvati> Maybe I can also try if someone's online then who knows how to fox my complicated problem :P
[13:52] <Sarasvati> But that's not an easy one, I figured :(
[13:56] <radovich> hi guys. is there a way to install windows xp inside of kubuntu?
[14:01] <any> 1111111111111111111111111111111
[14:02] <any> 2222222222222222222222222222222222222
[14:02] <any> 33333333333333333333333333333333
[14:02] <any> 4444444444444444444444444444444
[14:02] <any> 555555555555555555555555555555555
[14:02] <any> 6666666666666666666666666666666666
[14:02] <any> 77777777777777777777777777777777777777
[14:02] <radovich> what are you doing?
[14:02] <any> 随风倒
[14:02] <radovich> is that swearing i see???
[14:03] <any> ?
[14:03] <LeeJunFan> radovich: installing windows inside kubuntu requires a virtual machine, like vmware.
[14:03] <radovich> whank you.
[14:03] <radovich> thank
[14:03] <radovich> :)
[14:04] <LeeJunFan> lol, good laugh to start the morning on that typo :)
[14:04] <radovich> yeah
[14:04] <DexterF> which java package do I need to have Sun java and run programs? sun-java6-bin or -jre? or both?
[14:04] <radovich> sorry 'bout that
[14:04] <any> 有没有中国人
[14:04] <radovich> any, please write in english
[14:04] <LeeJunFan> radovich: don't worry about it - it was funny.
[14:04] <radovich> yep
[14:04] <DexterF> jre, alright, got it
[14:05] <radovich> LeeJunFan: will window$ be slow in vmware?
[14:05] <any> 不会写英语
[14:05] <DexterF> any: do you speak english?
[14:05] <jussi01> !cn
[14:05] <LeeJunFan> radovich: not slow, but not natively fast. It can't do accelerated graphics either, so no games or 3d software of any type really.
[14:06] <radovich> LeeJunFan: i was planning to install it just so i can exchange my mobile phone data
[14:06] <radovich> i have lg u880 and it cannot be recognized in any linux application
[14:07] <LeeJunFan> radovich: might work for that. I was able to with my motorola razr, however my palm based phone wouldn't work with vmware because it didn't support usb fully. That may be different now with vmware-server 2.0 beta.
[14:08] <radovich> DexterF: if you only want to execute apps, use jre, if you plan developing, jdk
[14:08] <DexterF> i see
[14:09] <radovich> LeeJunFan: this lg is connects with usb cable. all i need is to access my phone memory and it's memory card. i managed to get phone related stuff working on kmobiletoolf
[14:11] <xbxb> Let's say I don't want to change my fstab file and I have my home folder on a separate disc that requires manually mounting it. How could I change the startup process, so that I can get a prompt to mount the dev, before my home folder is needed (by kde, gnome, whatever)?
[14:12] <radovich> does anyone get this bug: in firefox, is a page has some checkboxes, if i click on them, i cannot see whether i checked it or not
[14:13] <jussi01> !bum | xbxb: this may help
[14:13] <xbxb> jussi01:  thanks
[14:13] <jussi01> :)
[14:14] <andre__> Hi. Is there someone around who can help me getting audio cd's to work properly in kubuntu with KDE 4.1.1?
[14:15] <andre__> Currently I'm getting nowhere...
[14:15] <andre__> Or perhaps a pointer to a website where I can find some information to get started?
[14:16] <andre__> I'd like to rip some cd's I have with the audiocd kio slave, which used to work in past for me (before using Kubuntu). Surely that still works in KDE nowadays?
[14:16] <xbxb> jussi01: :) I also wonder: is it a good idea to share the same home folder between two different PCs (so that I can use the same chat logs, firefox bookmarks on both)? when each PC may have slightly different software versions (due to automatic updates)...
[14:17] <jussi01> andre__: please ask in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[14:17] <nom> I am unable to get my screen resolution fixed in kde4 it works fine on gnome on the same ubuntu
[14:17] <nom> here is my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/48887/
[14:18] <jussi01> xbxb: not sure. sorry
[14:18] <nom> i asked in kde4 but there is no one to answer atm
[14:18] <jussi01> nom, just be patient, it is a sunday
[14:18] <jussi01> you arent likely to find more help in here, so try to keep it to a channel where it relevant.
[14:18] <jussi01> :)
[14:19] <andre__> OK jussi01, I will move to that channel.
[14:19] <xbxb> jussi01:  thanks though
[14:20] <roel_> hello!
[14:35] <rickdisco> hi
[14:36] <rickdisco> can anyone help me with ipw2200 wireless connection issues on kubuntu intrepid alpha 6 ?
[14:40] <pietje123> hallo
[14:49] <cosmic_> www.botecounix.com.br
[14:51] <MikeyLDS> hi guys
[14:52] <MikeyLDS> i just installed Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4.1.1 ... when it rebooted there was no option to boot linux ... just booted straight to windows, any ideas?
[14:54] <dr_willis> Sounds like the grub loaer dident get installed.. You did do a normal install (booted the cd, used the install icon?) and not a Wubi Install  (installed Inside windows)
[14:55] <MikeyLDS> yup, installed from the live cd
[14:55] <dr_willis> Grub = the bootloader tool that gives you a menu at boot up. as to what OS to boot.
[14:55] <dr_willis> Do you only have the 1 hard drive?  or 2 seperate (or more) hard drves)
[14:55] <LeeJunFan> might have installed grub to a partition.
[14:55] <LeeJunFan> or that
[14:56] <MikeyLDS> 1 ide and 2 sata's
[14:56] <MikeyLDS> i installed on one of the sata's with the swap disc on the same
[14:57] <MikeyLDS> also formatted the sata to ext3
[14:58] <MikeyLDS> is there a way to install the grub loader again?
[14:58] <LeeJunFan> !grub
[14:59] <LeeJunFan> MikeyLDS: follow the instructions on recovering grub after a windows install - same thing applies.
[14:59] <MikeyLDS> lol @ floppies ... not used one of those drives for years :P
[14:59] <MikeyLDS> yeah, will do
[14:59] <dr_willis> I would try setting the bios to boot the other hard drives.. Its possible grub got installed to the wrong one.
[14:59] <MikeyLDS> ok
[15:00] <dr_willis> its proberly possible to put the grub loader on the linux hd, and boot that hd. and let it boot windows.. thus keeping grub totally off the windows hd.
[15:01] <MikeyLDS> yeah
[15:01] <dr_willis> Or do like i did once.. installed grub to every hd in the system - to be sure i got it on the one HD  i needed
[15:01] <dr_willis> :)
[15:01] <MikeyLDS> looks complicated in the guide though, lol
[15:01] <LeeJunFan> lol
[15:01] <MikeyLDS> lol
[15:02] <dr_willis> The guide detailes several ways to do the same thing.
[15:02] <dr_willis> read through it befor starting. dont just start 'cuting/pasting commands'
[15:03] <MikeyLDS> yeah will do dr_willis
[15:03] <LeeJunFan> I remember the old days when the compressed kernel image could actually fit on a mbr, just dd the kernel directly to the mbr (as long as you had your fs and controller compiled in).
[15:04] <dr_willis> Hmm.. I rember them fitting on a floppy, but not the mbr. :)
[15:04] <MikeyLDS> that went waaaaaaaaaaay over my head LeeJunFan! lol
[15:04] <dr_willis> you could dd  the kernel to the start of a partition. I recall.
[15:04] <Glady> they banned me
[15:05] <dr_willis> Glady,  i dont think anyone understood a word you were saying..
[15:13]  * DuGi is away: Gone away for now.
[15:13] <Tm_T> DuGi: no
[15:16] <sebastianito> hi
[15:17] <sebastianito> i have a problem with my drives in /media, i have 3 different folders with the same name but they use _ and these things
[15:17] <sebastianito> how can i change name on them?
[16:05] <Glady> so
[16:18] <dr_willis> Sew?
[16:18] <Glady> sew
[16:18] <Glady> like in sewage?
[16:18] <dr_willis> as in Needle pulling thread.
[16:18] <Glady> digging under the house?
[16:19] <Half-Left> Just downladed kubuntu alpha6 and put it on usb, starting kde4.1 xorg restarts all the time at random, any ideas?
[16:19] <Glady> oh
[16:19] <sebastian> hi, when i try to mount my usb drive i get this message cannot mount voulume | mount_point cannot contain the flowing characters; newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[16:19] <Glady> like in knitting?
[16:21] <dr_willis> sebastian,  thats a new one. it could be the drive label has some odd characters in it. You could try to mount it manually
[16:21] <sebastian> i cant
[16:21] <sebastian> i cant
[16:21] <dr_willis> How are you ttrying to mount  the drive?  what command/method
[16:21] <sebastian> thats when i get the messge
[16:22] <Glady> sew
[16:22] <sebastian> i tried to just press the drive and mount in terminal i tried sudo mount /dev/sdb1
[16:22] <dr_willis> well 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1' would work if you have a proper fstab entry. You did make a fstab entry for  sdb1 ?
[16:22] <sebastian> i just got it now when i tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[16:22] <sebastian> but it failed
[16:23] <sebastian> no i havent
[16:23] <dr_willis> sudo mkdir /media/Usbdrive
[16:24] <dr_willis> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/Usbdrive
[16:24] <dr_willis> would be 'close' to whats needed in a general way.
[16:24] <dr_willis> Its  possible you gave the disk some weird label the system dosent like
[16:24] <sebastian> the thing is i dont even have the drive in /media
[16:24] <dr_willis> what filesystem is this drive?
[16:24] <sebastian> ntfs
[16:25] <dr_willis> I normally use windows to set the label for ntfs drives.     it sounds like it may some how have a / in the label name.
[16:25] <sebastian> what were these commands for? it just started my filesystem
[16:25] <urvashi> hi everybody
[16:25] <sebastian> oh
[16:25] <dr_willis> those commands MOUNT the drive
[16:25] <dr_willis> it should be appearing at /media/Usbdrive
[16:25] <sebastian> but i need to add it in fstab, how can i do that?
[16:26] <sebastian> no it dont :(
[16:26] <dr_willis>  /etc/fstab is a file you can edit.
[16:26] <sebastian> i know but how do i add a drive there?=
[16:26] <dr_willis> for a removeable ntfs - you proberly dont want to manually mount it.
[16:26] <sebastian> so what can i do?
[16:26] <dr_willis> fstab  has a line for each mountpoint -   for ntfs. you will want to be using the ntfs-3g stuff.
[16:27] <sebastian> like this
[16:27] <sebastian>    /dev/sda2 /media/EXTERNDISK ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[16:27] <dr_willis> I would try relabeling the thing with a nice simple lable like that howto says
[16:27] <dr_willis> sudo ntfslabel /dev/sda1 usbdrive
[16:27] <sebastian> its hard when i dont even have the drive in fstab , its like its gone
[16:27] <dr_willis> to be sure it has a nice simple label
[16:27] <sebastian> ya
[16:28] <dr_willis> fstab has Nothing to do with the automounting of removeavble media
[16:28] <sebastian> then how can i mount my drive? theres no way to mount it right now
[16:28] <dr_willis> its normally used for mounting of perment drives. you can make entries in there if you want. but then they wont automount when you plug them in
[16:28] <dr_willis> for a ntfs drive you would want to use the ntfs-3g tool to mount it. not the normal mount
[16:28] <sebastian> my drive is always plugged in i use it like a normal harddrive
[16:29] <dr_willis> http://www.ntfs-3g.org/index.html#usage
[16:29] <dr_willis> command line way -->  mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[16:29] <dr_willis> fstab way --> /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[16:30] <dr_willis> change the mountpoint to be whatever you want.
[16:30] <sebastian> thx :D
[16:32] <dr_willis> learning how linux mounts filesystems - is a must learn thing. :)  when getting to know the system.
[16:32] <sebastian> ya i know :)
[16:33] <sebastian> but its still not mounting :P
[16:33] <sebastian> now its completely gone
[16:33] <sebastian> now its completely gone
[16:34] <dr_willis> try the mount command and see whats mounted where.
[16:34] <dr_willis> if you used those commands earlier - its still mounted.
[16:35] <sebastian> when i try the mount command it says its not in /media
[16:36] <dr_willis> what is it saying exactly.....
[16:36] <dr_willis> tip #1 - a mountpoint MUST exist befor you mount to it
[16:36] <sebastian> sebastian@sebastian-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows
[16:36] <sebastian> mount: mount point /media/windows does not exist
[16:36] <dr_willis> rember when i did the 'sudo mkdir /media/######' ?
[16:36] <dr_willis> #1 mistake people make when firt learning to mount things manually :)
[16:37] <sebastian> ya
[16:37] <sebastian> no sorry i dont remember
 sudo mkdir /media/Usbdrive
 sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/Usbdrive
[16:38] <dr_willis> tip #2 - rember  - Case is IMPORntAnT! :)
[16:38] <sebastian> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/Usbdrive': File exists
[16:38] <sebastian> sebastian@sebastian-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/Usbdrive
[16:38] <sebastian> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/Usbdrive busy
[16:38] <sebastian> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/Usbdrive
[16:38] <sebastian> hehe
[16:39] <dr_willis> looks like it should be mounted to /media/Usbdrive
[16:39] <dr_willis> sudo ls -l /media/Usbdrive        should show files.
[16:39] <sebastian> ya but its the same as the filesystem
[16:39] <dr_willis> ' same as the filesystem '  means ?
[16:39] <sebastian> the folders
[16:40] <sebastian> its like it mounted another filesystem with the media and etc
[16:40] <sebastian> and bin
[16:40] <dr_willis> sounds like /dev/sda1 is your 'root' drive. NOT the  device for your thumbdrive then
[16:40] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[16:40] <dr_willis> whould show all filesystems seen by the system
[16:41] <sebastian> yup
[16:41] <sebastian> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[16:41] <sebastian> /dev/sdb1   *           1     2441943   312568672+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:41] <sebastian> i think it is that one
[16:41] <dr_willis> well thats sdb1  not sda1 :)
[16:41] <sebastian> wai
[16:41] <sebastian> wait
[16:42] <dr_willis> first hd = sda, 2nd - sdb normally
[16:42] <sebastian> its supposed to be 320gb and i dont know if this is what shows it 312568672+
[16:42] <dr_willis> thats bytes vs mb.
[16:42] <dr_willis> vs gb
[16:43] <sebastian> because these seems to be the same
[16:43] <sebastian> Disk /dev/sdb: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
[16:43] <fiyawerx> looks right
[16:44] <dr_willis> also some #'s may be the filesystem size, vs the drive size..  filesystems have some overhead.
[16:44] <sebastian> ya but its under 2 different lines
[16:44] <fiyawerx> sdb is the total, sdb1 looks like its taking the full space of sdb
[16:44] <fiyawerx> sdb1 is the first partition on the drive sdb
[16:44] <sebastian> oh ok
[16:44] <sebastian> ya thats right
[16:44] <Schuenemann> why wonder why it isn't called hdb anymore. hd = hard disk. sd = ?
[16:45] <sebastian> now it works :D
[16:45] <sebastian> :D:D:D:D:D
[16:45] <sebastian> :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
[16:45] <sebastian> :D:D:D:D:D
[16:45] <Tm_T> sebastian: sd aka scsi disk, aka sata disk
[16:45] <fiyawerx> scs/sata
[16:45] <sebastian> i dont have sata
[16:45] <dr_willis> sd used to be for scsi
[16:45] <fiyawerx> hdx's are generally ide
[16:45] <sebastian> ok
[16:45] <dr_willis> but now the systems are getting tweaked where all drives are 'sd'
[16:45] <Tm_T> sebastian: sorry wrong tab filling because of your noisy behaviour
[16:46] <sebastian> dr_willis: tx a lot :D
[16:46] <dr_willis> I have systemns with hd## and sd## both still
[16:46] <fiyawerx> i think it mainly depends on the drivers for the hardware, not sure 100% tho
[16:46] <Tm_T> true
[16:47] <fiyawerx> and bios settings too, like my sata ports can run in ide mode or something similar
[16:47] <fiyawerx> so they get reported to the OS like that
[16:47] <fiyawerx> which might also mean your not getting full performance
[16:48] <dr_willis> I think they still get full performance.  Thats one of the reasons for the 'hd to sd' change  - they were trying to get away from all this 'dma not getting enabled' issues from ages past.
[16:48] <dr_willis> Plus the ide subsystem I hear had other  quirks.
[16:48] <sebastian> thx willis
[16:48] <sebastian> cya
[16:49] <dr_willis> Point to rember is that Just because a drive is sda - does NOT mean it might NOT be your ide drive. :)
[16:49] <dr_willis> i accidently formated /dev/hda once because i was sure the sata drive was sda.. when in fact it was sdb :)
[16:49] <sebastian> haha
[16:50] <dr_willis> this is when it pays to have backups.
[16:50] <sebastian> ok bye all  and thx for the help
[16:50] <sebastian> hard to backup my 320gb drive when i dont have a bigger one :P
[16:56] <neutron> bonjour tout le monde
[16:56] <PhilRod> bonjour neutron
[16:56] <PhilRod> !fr
[16:57] <neutron> ok désolé
[16:57] <PhilRod> pas de problème
[16:58] <neutron> merci a+
[17:00] <mani213> how do i install a ati driver for my computer?
[17:02] <Schuenemann> !ati
[17:03] <draik> I want to mount an image via ssh. I have the ISO on my desktop and want to mount the image on a laptop from my same network. How can this be done?
[17:04] <draik> Jucato: peek-a-boo
[17:04] <ign0ramus> hey draik
[17:04]  * Jucato runs
[17:04] <draik> Hey ign0ramus
[17:04] <koen_> leave
[17:04] <ign0ramus> ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?
[17:04] <koen_> leave #kubuntu
[17:05] <draik> ign0ramus: PM
[17:05] <ign0ramus> hey, got an actual question today... so i have a bunch of jpg's that I want to combine into a single pdf... can i do this?
[17:05] <PhilRod> draik: mount it locally with the loopback interface, then use sshfs on the remote machine
[17:05] <draik> ign0ramus: Yes. I don't recall how, though.
[17:06] <draik> PhilRod: How so? I'm sorry, but I do not understand how you're explaining.
[17:06] <ign0ramus> i found scanned photos of the original owner's manual for a 1941 Chevy Coupe, and I'd like to print it out for my stepdad for their anniversary
[17:06] <PhilRod> draik: iso image on machine A, which you want to see from machine B:
[17:06] <mani213> does kubuntu already come with a graphics card driver?
[17:07] <ign0ramus> mani213: yes, it comes with many... is there a certain card you are concerned about?
[17:07] <PhilRod> on machine A, run "mount -t iso -o" darn it, I can't remember - let me see
[17:07] <mani213> well my like last week when i started my pc the images were streched
[17:07] <draik> PhilRod: sudo mount -o loop -t udf
[17:07] <mani213> so i dont know if i still need to install it or not
[17:07] <Howite> mount -t iso9660 -o loop
[17:07] <draik> Sorry, forgot to mention it's a DVD
[17:07] <Schuenemann> mani213, isn't the resolution wrong for your monitor
[17:08] <Schuenemann> ?
[17:08] <mani213> no i checked every thing setting linux settings
[17:08] <mani213> and an operator last week was tellin me to install ati driver but i didnt know how
[17:08] <PhilRod> draik: ok, then the only thing you need is sshfs - "man sshfs" should give you the information you need
[17:08] <mani213> i tried reading the web site didnt get threw my head
[17:08] <dr_willis> !iso
[17:08] <draik> PhilRod: Thank you much. Greatly appreciated.
[17:08] <fiyawerx> Anyone familiar with this message? phonon pops up saying audio playback hda intel  (alc883 analog) does not work failing back to hda intel ((alc883 analog)
[17:09] <draik> dr_willis: The issue is that the iso resides on my desktop. I want to mount it on my laptops from the same network.
[17:09] <fiyawerx> !phonon
[17:09] <Schuenemann> mani213, is it ATI Radeon 9500 or newer?
[17:09] <ign0ramus> fiyawerx: is this in Amarok?
[17:09] <dr_willis> mount it to somewhere, then setup a share pointing to the mountpoint
[17:09] <dr_willis> is one way
[17:09] <fiyawerx> ign0ramus: was trying dragon
[17:09] <mani213> its ati radeon 7200
[17:10] <mani213> and every time i i start my computer my settings go back to defult like the compiz
[17:10] <dr_willis> or setup a share that holds the .iso, then have the other box's mount the .iso locally via the loopback stuff
[17:10] <ign0ramus> fiyawerx: don't know much about these new kde4 apps... does it allow you to choose your engine?  I've never had much luck with Phonon
[17:10] <fiyawerx> ign0ramus: first time ever using it, not too sure yet, will play around some
[17:10] <mani213> i would have to type in run $ lspci -nn | grep VGA
[17:10] <Schuenemann> mani213, then, you need this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:10] <draik> PhilRod: There isn't a man page for sshfs.
[17:10] <PhilRod> draik: ah, must need a package - let me see
[17:10] <mani213> do u know whats the problem
[17:11] <mani213> when i start my computer and every time
[17:11] <tekteen> draik, you do not have it installed
[17:11] <mani213> i gata type in run compiz --replace
[17:11] <mani213> so get my settings back
[17:11] <dr_willis> theres a sshfs wiki page. and i think sshfs --help shows its ussage
[17:11] <draik> PhilRod: Thanks.
[17:11] <draik> tekteen: Which package?
[17:11] <tekteen> sshfs
[17:11] <PhilRod> draik: the package is sshfs
[17:11] <draik> Right you are.
[17:11] <dr_willis> willis@geubuntu:~(7.958 Mb)$ sshfs -h
[17:11] <dr_willis> usage: sshfs [user@]host:[dir] mountpoint [options]
[17:11] <draik> Installed now.
[17:12] <dr_willis> sshfs billgates@msn.com:/home/billgates MoneyStash
[17:12] <dr_willis> :)
[17:13] <tekteen> lol
[17:13] <draik> LOL @ dr_willis
[17:17] <fiyawerx> ign
[17:17] <fiyawerx> oops
[17:17] <fiyawerx> ign0ramus: im not even sure where to change the phonon settings
[17:18] <fiyawerx> ah, found it i think
[17:23] <ign0ramus> haha!
[17:23] <ign0ramus> this is pretty handy - if you have a collection of .jpgs that you want to convert into a single .pdf file, it's real simple!
[17:24] <ign0ramus> install imagemagick > cd to directory with jpgs > "convert *jpg newfile.pdf
[17:25] <tekteen> someone has found imagemagik :-)
[17:25] <grego> hi everyone
[17:25] <tekteen> hi
[17:25] <grego> i have small question
[17:25] <jussi01> ask! :)
[17:25] <tekteen> !ask
[17:25] <tekteen> :-)
[17:26] <grego> when i use dolphin as root, i can mount my ntfs drives by clicking on them
[17:26] <grego> is this possible to do without using root?
[17:26] <SiDi> Hey everyone
[17:26] <SiDi> Does anyone know the KDE piece of software for checking how filled is my disk ?
[17:27] <tekteen> grego, I only know of one way to do it
[17:27] <grego> yes tekteen?
[17:27] <tekteen> I think you need to edit fstab and make users able to mount it
[17:27] <claydoh> SiDi: kdirstat
[17:27] <grego> ewww
[17:27] <tekteen> I know
[17:28]  * tekteen is not good with gui
[17:28] <ign0ramus> SiDi: alternatively, you can go to media:/ and right-click > properties
[17:28] <SiDi> Ok ty
[17:28] <grego> i have to add each drive as always or just add user?
[17:28] <gradisca> ciao
[17:28] <SiDi> Yeh yeh :P but i got baobab under gnome and its for my kde-ish friend who doesnt speak english :)
[17:28] <SiDi> and finding a french kde ubuntu user is hard :)
[17:28] <ign0ramus> SiDi: why - everyone uses gnome there?
[17:29] <SiDi> Well, #kubuntu-fr redirects on #ubuntu-fr
[17:29] <SiDi> and there we almost only use gnome
[17:29] <SiDi> i'd say 90% of the channel :/
[17:29] <ign0ramus> :(
[17:29] <tekteen> !fstab
[17:29] <grego> ;>
[17:29] <SiDi> Well i used KDE when i first tried ubuntu, was 7.10 beta, but then when i reinstalled i felt like trying gnome :p
[17:29] <SiDi> and as i didnt need to reinstall it stayed like that
[17:29] <tekteen> grego, can you pastebin your fstab
[17:29] <tekteen> ?
[17:30] <grego> ok
[17:30] <claydoh> grego: ido believe youcan adjust mountpoints from an applet in  system settings
[17:30] <claydoh> I im intrepid, don't have hardy to check
[17:31] <claydoh> but I do remember changing things fromthere before
[17:31] <grego> http://pastebin.com/m2c62a412
[17:31] <draik> dr_willis: I don't seem to have the usage just right. I put "sshfs draik@123.456.789.x:/home/draik/path/image.iso /mnt" I get 'image.iso: Not a directory'. I removed the image.iso part and then I get 'fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied' Any ideas?
[17:32] <grego> this uncommented stuff is from my previous attempts ;)
[17:33] <tekteen> grego, you may want to wait for someone who knows kde better
[17:33] <tekteen> I deal mostly with the cli so I am not sure if this will work
[17:33] <tekteen> which one do you want to mount?
[17:33] <grego> all
[17:33] <tekteen> why not just mount it an startup?
[17:34] <grego> but the thing is
[17:34] <grego> i dont want to mess with fstab
[17:34] <grego> as root
[17:34] <grego> i can mount partitions by clicking
[17:34] <grego> on them
[17:34] <grego> in dolhin
[17:34] <grego> dolhin*
[17:34] <grego> dolphin*
[17:34] <grego> ew
[17:34] <grego> ;]
[17:34] <tekteen> lol
[17:36] <tekteen> grego, so you can mount it?
[17:36] <grego> yes
[17:36] <tekteen> what is the problem?
[17:36] <draik> tekteen: Would you know what I did wrong with my sshfs usage?
[17:36] <grego> i dont know how it works
[17:36] <grego> but
[17:36] <grego> dolp[hin detects them
[17:36] <grego> without fstab
[17:36] <tekteen> ok
[17:36] <tekteen> what is the problem?
[17:36] <grego> i just cant mount them
[17:37] <grego> as normal user
[17:37] <grego> as root yes
[17:37] <tekteen> ok
[17:37] <ign0ramus> grego: do you want the partitions mounted at startup?
[17:37] <grego> yah
[17:37] <tekteen> draik, what did you do?
[17:37] <grego> its fine
[17:37] <ign0ramus> grego: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[17:37] <draik> tekteen: I don't seem to have the usage just right. I put "sshfs draik@123.456.789.x:/home/draik/path/image.iso /mnt" I get 'image.iso: Not a directory'. I removed the image.iso part and then I get 'fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied' Any ideas?
[17:38] <tekteen> I see the problem
[17:38] <tekteen> there are 2 of them
[17:38] <tekteen> the first is you need to use sudo
[17:38] <grego> can't I just have permissions for mounting?
[17:39] <ign0ramus> grego: sure.  but that is dictated by fstab
[17:39] <tekteen> draik, you also need to select a dir not the iso image
[17:39] <ign0ramus> grego: is it an NTFS partition you want mounted?
[17:39] <grego> yes
[17:39] <grego> i know how to add partiotion in fstab
[17:39] <tekteen> draik, do you want to mount the iso on the other machine or on the local machine?
[17:39] <draik> tekteen: So then use sudo sshfs... and point it to the dir?
[17:39] <tekteen> yes
[17:39] <grego> but as root i dont need it
[17:40] <draik> tekteen: I have the image on my desktop. I want to mount it on my laptop
[17:40] <ign0ramus> grego: did you even read the link above?  It gives step by step instructions on how to achieve just that.
[17:40] <grego> oh
[17:40] <grego> i see it now
[17:40] <ign0ramus> grego: ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000       is the syntax
[17:40] <grego> thanks :)
[17:40] <ign0ramus> grego: np
[17:40] <tekteen> draik, do you want to mount it on the desktop and then mount that folder on your laptop?
[17:41] <mani213> can i get the link that shows step by step points to installin ati driver
[17:41] <draik> tekteen: I was hoping to mount the image directly on the laptop
[17:41] <tekteen> !ati | mani213
[17:41] <tekteen> ok
[17:41] <tekteen> here is what you do
[17:42] <tekteen> also
[17:42] <tekteen> you need to make a new folder to mount to
[17:42] <tekteen> not /mnt
[17:42] <draik> On the desktop?
[17:42] <tekteen> no
[17:42] <tekteen> laptop
[17:42] <draik> Ok
[17:42] <mani213> but i have the ren 7200
[17:42] <tekteen> on the laptop "sudo mkdir /mnt/desktop"
[17:43] <draik> Ok
[17:43] <tekteen> sudo sshfs draik@123.456.789:/home/draik/path/ /mnt/desktop
[17:43] <ign0ramus> mani213: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3773773
[17:43] <tekteen> the path should be the FOLDER the iso is in
[17:44] <draik> Ok
[17:44] <tekteen> draik: now you need to create another mount point          sudo mkdir /mnt/iso
[17:44] <tekteen> now we will mount the iso with...
[17:45] <draik> sudo mount -o loop -t udf
[17:45] <tekteen> I do not think do
[17:45] <draik> Luckily I have created this as an alias.
[17:45] <tekteen> so
[17:45] <tekteen> one sec
[17:45] <tekteen> sudo mount -o loop /mnt/desktop/SOMETHING.iso /mnt/iso
[17:46] <tekteen> use that ^
[17:46] <draik> Skip the '-t udf'?
[17:46] <tekteen> yeah
[17:46] <tekteen> for now
[17:46] <tekteen> lets see if you get an error first
[17:47] <tekteen> draik, did it work?
[17:48] <draik> Sorry, sis came to me with a Vista question. Let me try it now.
[17:48] <tekteen> lol
[17:51] <draik> Ok. Awkward
[17:51] <draik> Nothing
[17:51] <tekteen> ?
[17:51] <tekteen> draik, try ls /mnt/iso
[17:51] <tekteen> is anything there?
[17:51] <draik> I can use CLI to get to /mnt/desktop, but when I go to the actual folder of /mnt, only the folder 'iso' exists.
[17:52] <draik> Nope, nothing in /mnt/iso
[17:52] <tekteen> try /mnt/desktop
[17:52] <draik> Got it
[17:52] <draik> Yay me
[17:52] <draik> Thank you tekteen
[17:52] <tekteen> ...
[17:52] <tekteen> np
[17:53] <tekteen> everything working?
[17:53] <Kevin__> hey out there... I've got a headless server running 8.04 and am looking to tunnel an X session to my Macbook Pro. I can make the necessary connections and start individual applications, but starting KDE doesn't work.
[17:53] <draik> I would have used all caps, but then I would be hit with !caps
[17:53] <tekteen> ok
[17:53] <Kevin__> Of course my goal is to get KDE working
[17:53] <dr_willis> draik,  you need to do it as 2 steps
[17:53]  * dr_willis was away :)
[17:53] <draik> tekteen: It's all working now.
[17:54] <tekteen> cool
[17:54] <draik> I gots me a movie!
[17:54] <tekteen> lol
[17:54] <dr_willis> I recall some samba guides/docs on  taking .iso files and making them auto-mount/share as needed also
[17:54] <draik> BTW, it was Foxfire that I was wanting to watch.
[17:54] <tekteen> is it a dvd movie?
[17:54] <draik> Yes
[17:54] <tekteen> you did not need to mount it
[17:55] <tekteen> you can open it up in vlc as an iso
[17:55] <draik> It's one of Angelina Jolie's first movies. I'm not sure if it was post or pre Hackers.
[17:55] <dr_willis> Yep. vlc/mplayer can play .iso files :)
[17:55] <draik> I prefer Kaffeine
[17:55] <tekteen> I believe it can to :-)
[17:55] <dr_willis> draik,  you have just shown you are crazy... :)
[17:55] <dr_willis> heh heh
[17:55] <iko_> hi to all
[17:55] <dr_willis> Im so used to mplayer. i cant stand to use anything else.
[17:55] <tekteen> hi iko_
[17:56] <iko_> excuse me for the bad english
[17:56] <iko_> i'm italian
[17:56] <iko_> :)
[17:56] <draik> dr_willis: That's me with kaffeine. Explain, though, how I'm crazy for using kaffeine
[17:56] <tekteen> dr_willis, the most important thing is that it has keyboard shortcuts
[17:56] <dr_willis> Yep.. keyboard shortcuts in mplayer. I tend to use geexbox for my video needs.
[17:57] <dr_willis> I just cant stand how kaffine works..   then again - im not always using kde, or X or even linux . so mplayer works for me in whatever situation im in console/framebuffer/ even windows.
[17:57] <tekteen> dr_willis, people think I am nuts when I start movies and music and browse the internet without picking up the mouse
[17:58] <dr_willis> I start a movie.. then about 4 days i manage to finish watching it all..due to the wife constantly interrupting me
[17:58] <tekteen> I never got the framebuffer working well
[17:58] <draik> tekteen: and then there are people like me that envy you
[17:58] <tekteen> draik: huh?
[17:58] <draik> You do it all without picking up a mouse
[17:58] <tekteen> lol
[17:59] <tekteen> I just hate using the mouse. I am used to the cli
[17:59] <draik> Then again, I might be able to as well since I used Katapult to launch the apps and then keyboard shortcut my way through playing media. The browser thing, only to launch.
[17:59] <draik> I wish I was more CLI-oriented
[18:00] <tekteen> lol
[18:00] <mikz> who knows any development tool such as visual studio for developing web pages and applications using c#?
[18:00] <tekteen> mikz, you mean an ide?
[18:00] <tekteen> like eclipse
[18:00] <mikz> yes
[18:00] <tekteen> I use kwrite for programming
[18:01] <tekteen> but that is a texteditor with hilighting
[18:01] <iko_> excuse me i must go... goodbye :)
[18:01] <mikz> does that suppor c# language?
[18:01] <tekteen> both do
[18:02] <tekteen> draik, all you need is practice
[18:02] <mani213> i tried followiong steps on the ubuntu site to install ati driver
[18:02] <mani213> that doesnt work
[18:02] <mikz> ok thanks tekteen
[18:02] <mani213> so my images are streched on my monitor
[18:02] <mani213> what should i do
[18:02] <tekteen> mani213, have you tried jockey?
[18:02] <dr_willis> after installing the video drivers. some tmes i have to set the proper res.
[18:02] <mani213> whats jokcey
[18:03] <mani213> well
[18:03] <mani213> how do i check now if i have the ati driver inatsllaed cause i followed the steps
[18:03] <mani213> still doesnt work but i wana check is i installed the ati driver
[18:03] <tekteen> type alt+f2 and type this kdesu jockey-kde
[18:03] <tekteen> type alt+f2 and type this: kdesu jockey-kde
[18:04] <mani213> okay and what am i looking for?
[18:04] <mani213> i see two device drivers
[18:04] <tekteen> does it say there are drivers you can install?
[18:04] <tekteen> ok
[18:04] <mani213> atheros hardware and wireless lan card
[18:04] <tekteen> none of them video?
[18:04] <mani213> no
[18:05] <tekteen> ok
[18:05] <mani213> so shuld i go
[18:05] <tekteen> I just wanted to check
[18:05] <mani213> ati.com and download driver?
[18:05] <draik> tekteen: How do I unmount the /mnt/desktop from my desktop? sudo umount /mnt/desktop?
[18:06] <tekteen> if you unmount desktop
[18:06] <tekteen> I do not know what will happen to iso
[18:06] <tekteen> also that is the command to unmount it
[18:06] <draik> IMO, nothing. The image is mounted at /mnt/iso
[18:06] <tekteen> no
[18:06] <mani213> what do i do though?
[18:07] <tekteen> mani213: I have no idea
[18:07] <tekteen> sorry
[18:07] <mani213> how did u install your grapgics driver
[18:07] <mani213> you should knowabit
[18:07] <tekteen> mani213: jockey :-P
[18:07] <mani213> it was already installed?
[18:07] <tekteen> no
[18:08] <tekteen> jockey installed it for me
[18:08] <tekteen> it was one of the options for me
[18:08] <mani213> theres no way i can tell it to install it for me?
[18:08] <tekteen> nope
[18:08] <tekteen> it does not seem to know your card
[18:08] <tekteen> draik
[18:08] <draik> tekteen: ?
[18:08] <mani213> i have a ati 7200
[18:08] <tekteen> the iso is on the other computer right?
[18:08] <mani213> can i download manually from ati site
[18:08] <draik> Yes
[18:09] <tekteen> draik: so if you unmount /mnt/desktop
[18:09] <draik> LOL
[18:09] <draik> Won't let you
[18:09] <draik> "Device is busy"
[18:09] <tekteen> see
[18:09] <draik> Worth a shot
[18:09] <tekteen> you need to first unmount iso
[18:09] <dr_willis> use mount command to see exactly whats mounted where
[18:11] <Pollywog> what is the ext3 equivalent of the ext2 chattr command?
[18:14] <mani213> i dont understand this
[18:15] <mani213> if i dontload ati driver from site
[18:15] <mani213> how do i install it
[18:15] <tekteen> mani213: ati = HELL
[18:15] <Walzmyn> mani213, usually sites give you instructions where you download the drivers
[18:15] <Walzmyn> don't know about ati, never been there
[18:16] <mani213> i just want my images not to be stretched
[18:16] <tekteen> mani213: I have only successfully installed the ati drivers once. It took me about a week. And I do not know what finally made it work
[18:17] <tekteen> I am now a nvidia only house
[18:18] <mani213> yo
[18:18] <mani213> i went on ati
[18:18] <mani213> website
[18:18] <mani213> and they dont even have my driver to install
[18:18] <mani213> :(
[18:18] <tekteen> :-(
[18:18] <Walzmyn> where'd you get the driver you said you downloaded?
[18:18] <mani213> ati.com
[18:18] <mani213> how do i reset the settings then
[18:18] <mani213> for the grpahics
[18:18] <mani213> cause i need to fix this
[18:19] <draik> tekteen: Thanks for teaching me to properly use sshfs and mount the image from the designated location.
[18:19] <tekteen> draik: stop saying thanks :-P
[18:19] <tekteen> lol
[18:20] <mani213> what dooo i doooo
[18:20] <mani213> :@
[18:20] <draik> tekteen: You solved my inquiry in a shorter time span than my google searches.
[18:20] <tekteen> mani213, obviously no one here knows
[18:20] <tekteen> why not ask in #ubuntu
[18:20] <mani213> i got this file ati.run
[18:20] <mani213> how do i run it
[18:20] <mani213> and open it
[18:20] <mani213> ?
[18:20] <mani213> konsole then sudo ati.run??
[18:20] <dr_willis> !enter
[18:21] <dr_willis> chmod +x whatever.run
[18:21] <dr_willis> sudo ./whatever.run
[18:21] <dr_willis> is the normal way
[18:21] <tekteen> mani213, no matter how many times you ask no one here is going to know the answer to your problem
[18:21] <tekteen> try #ubuntu
[18:21] <tekteen> people there may know
[18:22] <mani213> yo your commands to open files in console
[18:22] <mani213> doesnt work
[18:22] <mani213> the files on my desktop
[18:23] <tekteen> then cd to your desktop
[18:23] <dr_willis> You must be in the current directory, or give the full path to the file
[18:23] <tekteen> how is he supposed to know where it is?
[18:23] <dr_willis> Desktop is /home/username/Desktop
[18:23] <dr_willis> Case Is Imporntant
[18:23] <mani213> so if its on my desktop
[18:23] <dr_willis> cd Desktop
[18:23] <mani213> then what do i type im a noob to this
[18:24] <tekteen> cd ~/Desktop
[18:24] <mani213>  sudo ./whatever.run cd~/desktop???
[18:24] <tekteen> no
[18:24] <tekteen> sudo ~/Desktop/whatever.run
[18:24] <tekteen> also
[18:25] <tekteen> I do not know what the program will do
[18:25] <tekteen> you are giving it access to your whole machine
[18:25] <dr_willis> hopefully install the ati drivers.. but im doubtfull it will work
[18:25] <dr_willis> cd ~/Desktop
[18:25] <dr_willis> sudo ./whatever.run
[18:25] <dr_willis> ooops.. ya gotta chmod +x it first
[18:26] <mani213> :S
[18:26] <mani213> im lost
[18:26] <mani213> i tried sudo ~/Desktop/whatever.run
[18:26] <mani213> it doesnt work
[18:26] <dr_willis> cd ~/Desktop
[18:26] <Glady> ok
[18:26] <dr_willis> chmod +x whatever.run
[18:26] <dr_willis> sudo ./whatever.run
[18:26] <Glady> later trying onething.run
[18:26] <dr_willis> Of course replace whatever.run with the proper filename
[18:27] <Glady> smallville.run
[18:27] <mani213> the directory is /home/mani213/desktop
[18:27] <mani213> i tried the way u told me doesnt work
[18:27] <dr_willis> Case Is Imporntant
[18:28] <dr_willis> UpperCase Letters ane names are NOT the same as LowerCase FileNames
[18:28] <dr_willis> Desktop is different from desktop
[18:28] <dr_willis> Note i used 'Desktop'
[18:29] <mani213> i remmeeber a guy before told me a command with sp in it?
[18:29] <mani213> and it worked and opened the file
[18:29] <Glady> sp?
[18:29] <mani213> it was a command to open a.run file on my desktop
[18:29] <dr_willis> you run a .run file
[18:30] <dr_willis> you make it executable, then run it as root.
[18:30] <dr_willis> I know of no 'sp' type commands
[18:30] <mani213> man so the fiels on my desktop
[18:30] <dr_willis> cd ~/Desktop   , chmod +x whatever.run  , sudo ./whatever.run
[18:30] <mani213> its called ati.run
[18:30] <dr_willis> use ati.run instead of whatever.run then
[18:30] <dr_willis> and thats 3 seperate commands.
[18:31] <mani213> it just says file not found
[18:31] <mani213> :S
[18:31] <dr_willis> then you either did a typo or are ion the wrong directory
[18:32] <mani213> its basicly on my desktop
[18:32] <mani213> were the wall paper is
[18:32] <dr_willis> try 'ls -l /home/YOURUSERNAME/Desktop/*.run'
[18:32] <dr_willis> see if it sees the file
[18:33] <dr_willis> using your proper username of course
[18:33] <Glady> ah
[18:33] <Glady> ok I understand
[18:34] <mani213> mani213@mani213-desktop:~$ ls -l /home/mani213/Desktop/*.run
[18:34] <mani213> -rw-r--r-- 1 mani213 mani213 53989404 2008-09-11 01:15 /home/mani213/Desktop/ati.run
[18:34] <mani213> mani213@mani213-desktop:~$
[18:34] <mani213> thats what it says
[18:34] <dr_willis> its there then
[18:34] <mani213> so
[18:34] <mani213> what exact command should i type/
[18:34] <mani213> ?
[18:34] <dr_willis> then you either did a typo or are ion the wrong directory
[18:35] <mani213> so how would u type this exact
[18:35] <dr_willis> you can give the full path to the file. and if you hiot the TAB key - it will auto-complete the filenames
[18:35] <mani213> without typos
[18:35] <dr_willis> chmod +x /home/USERNAME/Desktop/ati.run
[18:35] <dr_willis> sudo /home/USERNAME/Desktop/ati.run
[18:35] <dr_willis> when in doubt hit TAB to make it fill in the proper names
[18:36] <buRn[bRe]> kde3 fail to load, i can only use root command terminal, how to remore kde3 from hard drive, and sudo apt-get install kde3?
[18:37] <dr_willis> buRn[bRe],  remove/reinstalling proberly wont help. clarify what 'failed to load' if X is the problem. then you need to fix X, not KDE.
[18:37] <dr_willis> and the kde3 package name is not kde3 i belive its somtnintg else.  I tend to install 'kubuntu-desktop' package
[18:37] <mani213> ok ok
[18:37] <mani213> it works
[18:37] <buRn[bRe]> the problem is that my brother istall compiz fusion [to set up cube or somenthing] after that kde wont load
[18:37] <mani213> shit
[18:37] <mani213> it says z server unable to detect
[18:37] <mani213> :(
[18:37] <dr_willis> You could disable compiz fusion
[18:38] <dr_willis> but i rarely use compiz, so i dont recall how to do it from the shell.
[18:39] <kaminix> Do I want to avoid 64 bit computers if I intend to run Linux (and Windows...) on them? I've heard problems with Skype, Matlab (I think) and some other properitary applications.
[18:39] <tekteen> no
[18:39] <Tm_T> kaminix: should be past
[18:39] <dr_willis> mani213,  if its a gui app. you proverly want to use 'kdesudo /path/to/that/thing' instead of sudo
[18:39] <tekteen> kaminix, you can install 32bit software on 64 bit computers
[18:39] <dr_willis> How do you avoide 64bit cpmputers? :) unless ya want to stick with low low low end things.
[18:40] <dr_willis> I always use 32bit linux disrtos on my 64bit machines.
[18:40] <kaminix> Tm_T, tekteen: No problems with 64 bit then? I'm out to buy a new computer now you see. Will everything work on 32-bit compability mode?
[18:41] <dr_willis> 32bit os has worked on 64bit hardware for ages...
[18:41] <Tm_T> kaminix: if not, you can always install 32bit version of Ubuntu
[18:41] <Tm_T> kaminix: but should work just fine
[18:41] <kaminix> Tm_T: And it will work without any problems at all?
[18:41] <dr_willis> 64bit os's are getting where you only have a few issues with them.
[18:41] <kaminix> Okay, thanks.
[18:42] <Tm_T> kaminix: 64bit hardware is full 32bit compatible
[18:42] <Walzmyn> i've been running 64-bit kubuntu for months now with no problems
[18:42] <kaminix> Okay, thanks. :)
[18:42] <kaminix> Walzmyn: Have you tried Skype and/or Matlab on it?
[18:42] <Walzmyn> well, no problems with it, windows is giving me fits
[18:42] <geek> i'm trying to compile krecipies- i'm having a wee bit of dependancy hell, and am wondering how i use apt-get build-dep to ease things when i have source but not a source package
[18:43] <Walzmyn> kaminix, skype works like a charm, daughter talks to her grandmother all the time.
[18:43] <buRn[bRe]> i use skype on linux
[18:43] <Walzmyn> kaminix, video too
[18:43] <buRn[bRe]> but sometime icon on system tray i lost but skype i working
[18:43] <buRn[bRe]> is*
[18:44] <Tm_T> ...and that has nothing to do with 64bit hardware I believe
[18:44] <kaminix> Nice Walzmyn. :) Question 2, is nVidia a good video card choice?
[18:44] <buRn[bRe]> yess
[18:44] <Walzmyn> kaminix, i'm having no problems
[18:45] <kaminix> Have you tried running KDE 4 with it?
[18:45] <buRn[bRe]> i use nVidia on my comp and [windows] games works perfectly
[18:45] <Tm_T> it's good if you don't hate having issues because of closed drivers
[18:45] <Walzmyn> kubuntu found the card and offered me the propirtary dirver to download real easy
[18:45] <Walzmyn> kaminix, only in a virtualbox
[18:46] <kaminix> Tm_T: I just want best possible performance in the cheapest way possible :p
[18:46] <Tm_T> kaminix: then random crashes are ok I guess (;)
[18:46] <kaminix> lol :p
[18:46] <kaminix> Preferebly not :p
[18:46] <Tm_T> you cant avoid them with closed drivers I afraid
[18:46] <Walzmyn> kaminix, are you looking at a particluar brand?
[18:47] <ubuntu_> got a new emachine from wallie mart. Couldn't pass on the price. It has vista, but am getting ready to replace with kubuntu. has anyone heard of issues removing vista completely?
[18:47] <Glady> keep vista
[18:47] <kaminix> Walzmyn: Computer brand? Not really. Looking at this computer (page in Swedish, look under 'Innehåll')  http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=323200
[18:47] <Glady> all the time
[18:47] <Walzmyn> ubuntu_, did it come with restore disks?
[18:47] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu_: no. as you noticed, your computer came with it
[18:47] <Tm_T> Glady: why keep?
[18:48] <ubuntu_> it came with the vista operating system disk.
[18:48] <Glady> it is the key
[18:48] <Tm_T> Glady: key?
[18:48] <geek> ubuntu_: as long as your hardware supports ubuntu, you shouldn't have any issues. i'd suggest a little homework, and you'll be fine
[18:48] <Glady> to happiness in virtual world
[18:48] <Tm_T> Glady: it is not
[18:48] <Walzmyn> kaminix, was just going to say that you might try googling 64bit linux and that brand and see who has gone before you
[18:48] <arjun_i_set_my_t> hi all
[18:48] <ubuntu_> I can reinstall it if need be, but don't need it and haven't even booted into vista a single time.
[18:48] <arjun_i_set_my_t> i have just updated from gusty to hardy
[18:48] <Walzmyn> This box had vista on it. I was never more happy than when i kicked that crap to the curb and put Kubuntu on
[18:49] <dr_willis> i would be suprised a low end box came with a full vista revovery disk...
[18:49] <buRn[bRe]> can i bind keys like presing the windows start button on my keybord to open me the k-menu?
[18:49] <dr_willis> The companies like to ding you for an extra $20 for disks it seems
[18:49] <WaltzingAlong> buRn[bRe]: yes
[18:49] <Walzmyn> buRn[bRe], look up xbindkeys
[18:49] <ubuntu_> turned on the new system and tossed the livecd in. I've been using kubuntu for 6 years. I don't prefer windows.
[18:49] <arjun_i_set_my_t> i don't have proper sound it is very less as compaired to what i am used to of in Windows that i used 2 days ago
[18:50] <arjun_i_set_my_t> can any one please help me
[18:50] <Walzmyn> arjun_i_set_my_t, do you mean the volumn is low?
[18:50] <kaminix> The graphics card is 'XFX GeForce....', will there be problems with XFX cards or doesn't it matter as long as it's nVidia?
[18:50] <arjun_i_set_my_t> Walzmyn:Yes
[18:51] <Walzmyn> arjun_i_set_my_t, run "kmix"
[18:51] <dr_willis> kaminix,  a lot depends on the exact chipset of the card
[18:51] <dr_willis> XFX is proberly some company name.
[18:51] <dr_willis> I Got an 8800gtsXXX :)
[18:51] <kaminix> GeForce 9500GT 550M 256MB GDDR3, PCI-Express 2.0......
[18:51] <kaminix> XFX is the card maker
[18:52] <arjun_i_set_my_t> Walzmyn:ok
[18:52] <arjun_i_set_my_t> Walzmyn:then
[18:52] <Walzmyn> kaminix, nvidia will provide a driver for all it's chipsets - for good or bad
[18:52] <ubuntu_> 320 GB drive and guided resize suggests 69 for vista, 69 for kubuntu. I wonder what is up with the rest of the space?
[18:52] <faileas> ubuntu_: probably a big common storage partition?
[18:53] <ubuntu_> holy crow. It is unpartitioned space.
[18:53] <arjun_i_set_my_t> Walzmyn:in kmix all are at max level
[18:53] <ubuntu_> they only installed vista to half of the drive. I wonder why that is.
[18:54] <Tm_T> to leave room for Ubuntu
[18:54] <Glady> work for the other part
[18:54] <Walzmyn> arjun_i_set_my_t, I dn't know then. usually kmix gets set low on a new install
[18:54] <arjun_i_set_my_t> Walzmyn:ok thanks any way
[18:54] <Walzmyn> ubuntu_, if you give it half... it'll try to take over everythying
[18:54] <ubuntu_> I'll still blow away vista. I need all for myself.
[18:55] <arjun_i_set_my_t> can any one here tell me how to increase volume it is audible but  low
[18:55] <Glady> u should share vista
[18:56] <ubuntu_> Glady: why's that?
[18:56] <Glady> the first circle
[18:57] <Glady> the most important
[18:57] <ubuntu_> important for... tech support? I don't think I need to call them anytime soon. :)
[18:58] <Glady> well if u have good autonomy
[18:58] <Glady> it is good
[18:58] <Glady> but you need tech support all the time in virtual box
[18:59] <Glady> but the first cercle
[18:59] <Glady> u cant go without it
[18:59] <Glady> cya
[19:01] <waylandbill> pretty quick for a low end computer. I'm pretty happy on the purchase. Especially since kubuntu recognizes all the hardware.
[19:02] <arjun_i_set_my_t> can any one here please tell me how to increase volume it is audible but  low
[19:02] <PhilRod> arjun_i_set_my_t: run kmix
[19:02] <arjun_i_set_my_t> i increased volume from it to max level
[19:03] <waylandbill> of course vista is probably the cause for low end computers having better hardware.
[19:03] <arjun_i_set_my_t> my system never gives proper volume with linux
[19:03] <arjun_i_set_my_t> last time i installes PCLINUXOS and there was no volume at all
[19:03] <Glady> OS are jaelous from each others
[19:04] <Glady> and it makes conflicts
[19:04] <dr_willis> waylandbill,  i find that its just progress... if vista wasent here - we would still be gettting faster pcs :) and actually gaining some use of the  speed increases
[19:05] <waylandbill> dr_willis: that is possible. although as like automobile manufacturers, they tend to resist until consumers demand more.
[19:05] <dr_willis> automobile manufacturers - sell whatever slick eyecandy they can to consumers
[19:06] <waylandbill> :)
[19:06]  * dr_willis works for Chrysler
[19:06] <dr_willis> They also make most of thir $$ on the mark4ed up extras in the vehicles
[19:07] <alx54> hi everybody! errmm can anybody help me plz? I dont know how to install divx webplayer =(
[19:07] <waylandbill> won't know if vista home premier is any good. it's now gone. :)
[19:07] <alx54> what kind of channel should i ask this question?
[19:07] <dr_willis> Ive could understand why MS had the dozen variants of vista anyway. all about marketing
[19:08] <rick_> I have a USB turntable. I can record from the turntable with Audacity, but I can't hear the sound from the TT. Any way to get the TT audio through my soundcard and speakers?
[19:08] <dr_willis>  'making $$ on extras that people dont need' i guess
[19:08] <waylandbill> alx54: if you are using kaffiene, it should attempt to download the necessary codec.. in this case XviD
[19:08] <dr_willis> I just install the w32codec pack and it grabs all them I belive
[19:09] <dr_willis> its amazing how much easier it is to get all these videos playing under linux, then windows. :)
[19:09] <waylandbill> better packaging. you can get most codecs in a few packages.
[19:09] <jussi01> !ot
[19:10] <dr_willis> theres also the kubuntu-restricted-extras package - you may wish to install.
[19:10] <dr_willis> it grabs a lotof the stuff also
[19:10] <dr_willis> So there.. thats on topic! :P
[19:13] <rick_> I'm using my USB TT on kubuntu 8.04
[19:20] <DarkriftX> are there any apps i can install with apt that will let me convert video? (mp4 to xvid)
[19:20] <DarkriftX> and wont require taking a class to use it
[19:21] <dr_willis> avidumix
[19:21] <dr_willis> or did i spell tha tright
[19:21] <dr_willis> !find avid
[19:21] <dr_willis> avidemux
[19:21] <dr_willis> :)
[19:21] <dr_willis> Hmm.. isent xvid just like a mp4 variant.. or am i getting confused again
[19:22] <faileas> dr_willis: xvid is open source divx which is based off MS AVI
[19:22] <DarkriftX> you might be right
[19:22]  * SkEmO goes to his date :O, wish me luck! o/
[19:23] <DarkriftX> i dl'd a tv series and one of them is mp4, but im not sure if my dvd player will read those, so i was going to convert instead of risking a dvd
[19:23] <dr_willis> Xvid (formerly "XviD") is a video codec library following the MPEG-4 standard.
[19:23] <DarkriftX> nice
[19:23] <DarkriftX> so i dont have to do anything :)
[19:23] <dr_willis> and divx is just mpeg-4 that is tweaked a littel if i recall.
[19:23] <DarkriftX> ty
[19:23] <alx54> waylandbill sorry i didnt respond.. i am still struggling =) i have kaffeine and mozilla firefox installed, and the plugin of course
[19:24] <alx54> i also restarted firefox, still doesnt work
[19:24] <dr_willis> I seem to recall reading about all this divx/xvid/mp4 stuff once befor.. and  they are all so closely related.. its annoying the companies confuse the consumers
[19:24] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvid   read all about it! :)
[19:26] <faileas> there
[19:26] <faileas> god i hate needing to compile things
[19:27]  * faileas needs to go back to doing all this on a VM. so much neater
[19:27] <alx54> yeh my main probem is that i dont know what kind of problem i have.. wheter its kde related, ubuntu, firefox .0o0o0
[19:28] <DarkriftX> ok, ive done it before, but forget how... i have a bunch of files i want to remove a word from the name, whats the easiest way to do that?
[19:28] <dr_willis> ascii text?
[19:28] <DarkriftX> yeah
[19:28] <DarkriftX> just plain filenames
[19:28] <dr_willis> the file NAME changing, or the contents of the file?
[19:29] <DarkriftX> it was something liek ls|grep removetext| something else here
[19:29] <DarkriftX> name changing
[19:29] <dr_willis> i tend to use 'qmv' to change large # of filenames
[19:29] <ign0ramus|afknfl> DarkriftX: man rename
[19:29] <DarkriftX> oh, didnt know there was a rename lol
[19:29] <DarkriftX> thought it was just mv
[19:29] <dr_willis>  it basicially puts the name in a list in a text editor, you then change with the editor tools (search/replace)  then when ya exit. it does the renaming
[19:29] <dr_willis> rename is handy :)
[19:30] <dr_willis> but often what i want to change.. is a bit hard to do with rename
[19:30] <ign0ramus|afknfl> DarkriftX: you can use mv or cp, but rename is the tool for this job
[19:30] <dr_willis> !find qmv
[19:30] <dr_willis> renameutils - Programs to make file renaming easier
[19:31] <DarkriftX> wow
[19:31] <dr_willis> are we talking about 10 files? or 100000 files? :)
[19:31] <DarkriftX> rename is fooking awesome
[19:31] <DarkriftX> 16 files
[19:31] <DarkriftX> rename 's/S04//' *.*
[19:31] <DarkriftX> did just what i needed
[19:31] <dr_willis> removeing the Season04 from video files?
[19:31] <dr_willis> :)
[19:31] <DarkriftX> yes
[19:31] <dr_willis> watch out for spaces in the filenames
[19:32] <DarkriftX> my dvd player only shows first 8 chars in filename
[19:32] <dr_willis> I also tend to use the 'bulk rename utility' (in wine, yes its a windows app)
[19:32] <DarkriftX> and that would have made the ep # unreadable
[19:32] <dr_willis> Heh.
[19:32] <dr_willis> I dont even have a dvd player that can play video files.
[19:32] <rick_> I need some help with a USB turntable on Kubuntu.
[19:32] <dr_willis> Wife is watching her videos on the Wii with via the 'ORB' service.
[19:33] <rick_> oops. Last post was meant for #ubuntu
[19:39] <alx54> aaah this is so embarrassing... i am trying to convince my flatmates that kubuntu is neat, but i cant find out how to play divx videos online =(
[19:40] <faileas> mine seems to handle it...
[19:40] <tekteen> lol
[19:40] <tekteen> firefox?
[19:40] <tekteen> or konqueror?
[19:40] <alx54> both dont work
[19:40] <faileas> lets see, added medibuntu, and probably win32 codecs
[19:40] <tekteen> no
[19:40] <DarkriftX> online?
[19:41] <tekteen> the issue is you do not have a plugin
[19:41] <tekteen> you can get the vlc or mplayer plugin
[19:41] <tekteen> does kaffiene have one?
[19:41] <DarkriftX> vlc plays anything
[19:41] <DarkriftX> it can probably turn an exe into a video somehow
[19:41] <alx54> its online
[19:41] <DarkriftX> then its not kubuntu that is your problem, its your browser
[19:41] <tekteen> sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[19:42] <tekteen> alx54 ^
[19:42] <DarkriftX> dont think ive ever seen streaming xvid
[19:43] <alx54> i tried the kaffeine plugin but doesnt work... i ll try the vlc---
[19:43] <alx54> is it actually called streaming if i watch a movie online like google video ?
[19:43] <_2> vlc be's da bomb!
[19:44] <wishie> is there a way i can start the KMilo service from a cmd line ?
[19:44] <DarkriftX> if you dont dl the video, its most likely streaming
[19:44] <DarkriftX> if you dl it but watch it in browser, then you are just using browser as a video player
[19:45] <alx54> do i have to restart or is it enough to just restart browser
[19:45] <DarkriftX> just browser
[19:46] <DarkriftX> not much requires OS restart in linux
[19:46] <DarkriftX> OS upgrades and some driver changes (most dont)
[19:46] <sebastian_> how do i minimize a fullscreen program like in windows with the win-key?
[19:47] <DarkriftX> create a keyboard shortcut or find out if there already is one
[19:47] <DarkriftX> i had to manually set win+r to open the run dialog
[19:47] <DarkriftX> and win+e to open konq
[19:48] <sebastian_> ya but usally its already set
[19:48] <_2> DarkriftX and even the modules that "require" reboot, don't actually require it, it just simplifies the process...
[19:48] <sebastian_> the default button
[19:48] <dr_willis> i just alt-tab to the other apps...
[19:48] <_2> sebastian_ usally ?  where ?
[19:48] <dr_willis> of course it may depend on the fullscreen app
[19:48] <sebastian_> ok
[19:49] <sebastian_> but in keyboard prefences i dont see so much options:P
[19:49] <sebastian_> in layout options i cant find it
[19:49] <belvis> www,googles.con
[19:50] <dr_willis> ive never noticed the win key under windows - minimizing full screen apps..    ive seen it pop up the desktop..but thats still not the same as minimizing the app
[19:50] <sebastian_> i know but it works :P
[19:50] <tekteen> um
[19:50] <dr_willis> its not doing what you are saying its doing however...
[19:51] <sebastian_> i mean when the start screen opens it minimizes it
[19:51] <tekteen> the win key under windows does what alt+f1 does on kde
[19:51] <sebastian_> ok thx :D
[19:51] <lacy> quick question whats the biggest diffrents between ubuntu and kbuntu?
[19:51] <tekteen> the user interface
[19:51] <tekteen> and programs
[19:52] <tekteen> kubuntu uses kde while ubuntu uses gnome
[19:52] <tekteen> I am betting there are many sites that compare them
[19:52] <lacy> so it doesn't make a diffrents  for speed wise ?
[19:52] <dr_willis> that  pretty much IS the differeance. :) KDE or gnome.
[19:52] <dr_willis> You can easially install both desktops. and try them both out on the same machine
[19:53] <tekteen> lacy, look it up on google
[19:53] <tekteen> kde vs gnome
[19:53] <lacy> so is there a ubuntu  that seems to be much faster
[19:53] <tekteen> everyone has an opinion ;-)
[19:53] <dr_willis> I dont notice much speed differance in the day to day desktop operations of kde vs gnome
[19:54] <dr_willis> a window can only open so fast.. :)
[19:54] <lacy> well do they make like a fluxbuntu?
[19:54] <dr_willis> There is a fluxbuntu,
[19:54] <lacy> wow
[19:54] <lacy> lol
[19:54] <dr_willis> you could install fluxbox on your own desktop
[19:55] <dr_willis> Youc an have a DOZEN + widnow managers/dekstops oin the same machine
[19:55] <_2> lacy short answer is   *buntu = *buntu = *buntu    only the defaults are different.
[19:55] <dr_willis> I tend to use jwm+rox-filer for my personal desktop
[19:55] <tekteen> XUBUNTU RULES
[19:55] <tekteen> lol
[19:55] <lacy>  so how many diffrent window mangers do they have ?
[19:55] <tekteen> I like icewm as the window manager
[19:55] <dr_willis> XXXbuntu! with err.. adult themes
[19:55] <dr_willis> lacy,  fire up the package manager and look. theres at least a dozen in there
[19:56]  * tekteen hugs dr_willis
[19:56] <_2> i have pretty much setteled on blackbox as my de when i use one.
[19:56] <lacy>  ok looking up now
[19:56] <dr_willis> lacy,  check out http://xwinman.org/
  so how many diffrent window mangers do they have ?   <<< i can name at least a dozen of the top of my head...
[19:57] <lacy> how do i check out the other ubuntu under k-packages
[19:57] <dr_willis> not all are  just install and 'go' :) you may need to read some docs/tweak some to get them useable
[19:57] <dr_willis> with most - you install them . and the login screen/sessions menu will have an entry for them
[19:57] <lacy>  type windows -manager ?
[19:58] <dr_willis> lacy, use the search field and enter windowmanager  perhaps. Or look at the catagories
[19:58] <lacy>  thanks
[19:59] <dr_willis> Then ya got the KDE4 stuff thats being worked on, so the big 4 would be kde3, kde4, gnome, and xfce
[19:59] <dr_willis> then theres  just the 'window managers'  which are  not full desktops
[20:00] <_2> and the little 4 would be twm fvwm fluxbox blackbox    and there are at least 6 more.
[20:00] <tekteen> ICEWM
[20:00] <tekteen> :-)
[20:00] <dr_willis> *box :)
[20:00] <_2> tekteen i put that in the mid size class  but i could be wrong
[20:00] <dr_willis> then ya got the weird ones... :)
[20:00] <tekteen> ok
[20:00] <tekteen> what about mwm
[20:01] <dr_willis>  question then gets to be how do you actually measure/benchmark the things
[20:01] <dr_willis> !info mwn
[20:01] <dr_willis> I tend to use jwm
[20:01] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[20:01] <_2> tekteen heh dr_willis covered that with the "wierd ones"
[20:01] <tekteen> ok
[20:01] <dr_willis> installed size of 284k - is rather tiny.
[20:01] <dr_willis> !info fluxbox
[20:01] <_2> dr_willis yes i did forget jwm   it goes in the list of minimalest
[20:02] <dr_willis> of course installed size is only one indication  of size
[20:02] <dr_willis> how about wmx. is that even in the repos
[20:02] <dr_willis> !info wmx
[20:02] <dr_willis> Guess not. :)
[20:02] <_2> !info twm
[20:03] <dr_willis> i also like sawfish. but its slightly-weird
[20:04] <_2> :)
[20:06] <DarkriftX> are there lots of steps to install something from svn?
[20:07] <tekteen> darkriftX yes
[20:09] <tekteen> DarkriftX: yes, it takes alot of steps
[20:09] <DarkriftX> damn, wine-doors seems completely unusable... they broke everything make it ready for 0.1.3 but never released 0.1.3
[20:09] <DarkriftX> so old version dont work at all
[20:10] <_2> whendarz ?     oh   wine doors.    sorry.
[20:15] <dope> yoooooooooooooo
[20:15] <_2> no
[20:15] <tekteen> yo
[20:15] <_2> no
[20:15] <_2> ;/
[20:15] <dope> so i have 1 minor problem
[20:15] <dope> when i click a window it'll only come to the top if i click the title bar
[20:15] <_2> wait a few years and it will come of age
[20:16] <dope> how do i make it to when i just click the window it comes to the top
[20:16] <_2> "sloppy focus"
[20:16] <_2> un-tic it.
[20:17] <_2> iirc you can right click the desktop and configure to get there.
[20:19] <sushiX> how to access windows folder from a ubuntu machine
[20:19] <_2> !ntfs
[20:20] <marios> hi
[20:23] <sushiX> stored on a remote machine
[20:23] <_2> !samba
[20:23] <andriijas> how do i restart kde without rebooting the computer VIA ssh?
[20:24] <DarkriftX> you could kill it
[20:24] <DarkriftX> or change runlevel i think
[20:24] <_2> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[20:24] <DarkriftX> or that
[20:24] <_2> changing the runlevel will not help
[20:25] <_2> unless you have altered the defaults   in which case it's your system and you should know
[20:27] <andriijas> _2: ?dm or kdm?
[20:27] <_2> andriijas kdm is specific ?dm is generic.
[20:28] <andriijas> thx
[20:28] <LeeJunFan> Is there a way to search packages w/ versions? something like apt-cache search or apt-cache madison, but I want to search a pattern which madison doesn't seem to do.
[20:28] <fabio> hi all
[20:28] <_2> andriijas i try to not assume that you use kdm   you may have installed gnome/gdm first   or xfce4/xdm    so  ?dm   works for all of them.
[20:28] <fabio> what should i use to get my usb kbd working?
[20:29] <_2> LeeJunFan not the best but something like apt-cache madison .* | grep patern
[20:30] <LeeJunFan> _2: I must be missing something. I tried that and madison returned blank.
[20:31] <LeeJunFan> _2: yeah, that's the problem, madison doesn't regex, at least not with escaping \ or quoting or strong quoting :)
[20:33] <_2> LeeJunFan i see that.   well do you want a dirty hack you can put in a script ?
[20:34] <_2> for q in `apt-cache search '.*' | cut -d' ' -f1` ;do apt-cache madison $q ;done | grep $*   ## drop that in a script and call it with the patern you want to grep for.   "./script.sh blah1.0"    example.
[20:36] <LeeJunFan> I was going to do that, but I think I found a cleaner approach with apt-show-versions
[20:36] <DreadKnight> !flash
[20:36] <_2> hmm dapper doesn't seem to have that
[20:36] <DreadKnight> i have issues with flash... sometimes not displayinh anything...
[20:38] <LeeJunFan> _2: okay, well - going to have to use pipes, apt-cache-showversions shows the versions just fine - it just won't search based on them.
[20:40] <_2> LeeJunFan i guess that was writen after 6.6
[20:40] <radovich> i messed up: installed pcbsd and now i cannot enter my ubuntu. is there a way to make a grub or change bsd's loader so it will load my ubuntu???
[20:41] <_2> radovich both
[20:41] <_2> !grub | radovich
[20:41] <_2> that's well documented ^ as well as the other approach.
[20:42] <radovich> the problem is i have a laptop with no usb boot support and i do not have a floppy
[20:42] <_2> that's not a problem.  cd/dvd boot
[20:42] <_2> !supergrub
[20:42] <_2> silly bot
[20:43] <radovich> thanx alot
[20:43] <_2> super grub cd   ^
[20:43] <_2> or any linux install cd  for that matter
[20:44] <radovich> can i use my kubuntu cd to recover grub?
[20:44] <_2> yep
[20:45] <radovich> please tell me how, i need it very much, and very fast
[20:45] <radovich> i need some work to get done for tomorrow morning
[20:45] <jussi01> !grub
[20:45] <jussi01> it tells you there...
[20:45] <radovich> thanx
[20:47] <radovich> thank you very much for this one!
[20:47] <_2> radovich you used it to install grub the first time...   ergo it can recover it.    short answer is you boot the cd, mount the root fs of the install and issue   sudo grub-install -m /mountpoint/of/the/root/fs /dev/device_node         mountpoint might be /mnt  and device_node might be /dev/sda
[20:48] <radovich> i will reboot now and recover my lovely kubuntu box! see you in a jiffey
[20:48] <radovich> by the way: kubuntu is the greatest linux i have ever ever used.
[20:48] <_2> it's not too bad.   ;/
[20:48] <radovich> jussi01, _2 than you guys very much. you are good people!
[20:49] <_2> good and people in one breath ?      isn't that a contradiction
[20:50] <radovich> yes, but i make an exception 4 u
[20:50] <radovich> :)
[20:50] <radovich> xD
[20:50] <radovich> brb
[20:50] <_2> lol
[20:52] <RichardBH> hi, im trying to use the dd command but I keep getting the error dd: unrecognized operand 'size'='512'
[20:53] <_2> RichardBH bs=512
[20:53] <_2> RichardBH by the way.  512 is the default and specifying it is redundant
[20:54] <RichardBH> _2: thanks - id just tried that and got it to work
[20:54] <RichardBH> thats useful to know though
[20:54] <_2> welcome.
[20:56] <_2> also of note.  if writing to hdd a block size of 4096 is normally 4x faster.
[20:56] <_2> i.e. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=4096   #example only.
[20:57] <kottlett> anybody got intrepid with an atheros and WPA running?
[20:58] <_2> on a final note to that   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda  # is equal in affect and speed.
[20:58] <Bauldrick> kottlett: yes
[20:59] <kottlett> Bauldrick: nice... did it "just" work, or did you need to configure / install something extra?
[20:59] <Bauldrick> last i heard network-manager-kde was broke, use gnome or as I do wicd
[21:01]  * _2 wonders if  "stove down"   is the opposite of  "stove up"   ???
[21:02] <kottlett> Bauldrick: hm... there is no wicd package...
[21:03] <_2> not in hardly either
[21:03] <Bauldrick> kottlett: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[21:04] <Bauldrick> kottlett: try network-manager-gnome instead if *-kde is still broke
[21:04] <_2> hey! anyone have a good google script ?    or know of one ?
[21:05] <alx54> thanks guys =) cya
[21:05] <kottlett> Bauldrick: well network-manager-kde at least got eth0 up :) I'll give wicd a try... thx
[21:07] <_2> you know,  like a google bot for irc,  only i'm just looking to inhance the console with a google command...     ?
[21:07] <_2> enhance ?
[21:08] <_2> N-hance    ;/
[21:08] <calvin> hola compañeros
[21:08] <_2> hense my question.
[21:09] <_2> !es | calvin
[21:09] <ubuntu_> !grub
[21:10] <_2> although latin americian es is probably not the same as spainish es ...
[21:11] <kottlett_> Bauldrick: thx... wicd did the job :)
[21:11] <Bauldrick> kottlett_: np
[21:15] <dope> i cannot seem to get the vncserver working on here
[21:16] <dope> can't connect from tight vnc on a windows machine
[21:17] <erickrauda> mmmm
[21:17] <erickrauda> hi
[21:17] <erickrauda> kubunteros
[21:17] <erickrauda> i need rdestop in my linux
[21:18] <cuznt>  * Unmarried women are not allowed to buy edible panties in South Carolina.
[21:19] <dr_willis> dope try connecting locally with  vncclient localhost:0 or whatever port perhaps
[21:21] <dope> dr_willis: i got it thanks
[21:21] <dope> sorta
[21:22] <dope> all i'm getting is a grey screen with 3 checkboxes on it
[21:23] <dope> and there's a console window
[21:23] <dope> doesn't look like the desktop on my linux machine
[21:26] <dr_willis> thats becuase its proberly not
[21:26] <dr_willis> vncserver does not share the 'currently seen desktop'
[21:26] <dr_willis> it spawns its own desktop.
[21:27] <dr_willis> if you want to share the 'current desktop' you need to use the kde or gnome desktop shareing feature/tool (which i never use)
[21:27] <dr_willis> but hes gone... so phhht. :)
[21:28] <_2> dr_willis "proberly"   what locale is that ?     i'm familear with "prolly"  and  "probobably"   but not  "proberly"   ?
[21:30]  * dr_willis hits _2  with a dictionairtary
[21:30] <_2> :)
[21:30] <dr_willis> so lookit here boy!
[21:31] <dr_willis> :)
[21:31] <dr_willis> and stay off my lawn!
[21:31] <dr_willis> darn kids and their fancy walk-pods!
[21:32] <_2> heh.  and don't make me get up and come over there!       you forgot that one.  :)
[21:32] <dr_willis> 'dont make me stop this car!'
[21:32] <_2> that'll work   :)
[21:33] <dr_willis> 'just because i walk with a cane, dosent mean i cant kick your backside' :)
[21:33] <cuzbuntu> are we there yet?
[21:33] <dr_willis> now back to fighting with this other pc
[21:33] <cuzbuntu> i got to go to the bathrooooooooooom.
[21:34] <_2> cuzbuntu must be an american,   how'd he get in here...
[21:34] <dr_willis> 'you can just hold it young man!' 'that will teach you to get thirsty!'
[21:35]  * cuzbuntu crosses his legs and dances............  HURRY!
[21:36] <cuzbuntu> * In Vermont, it's illegal to pick your nose and stick the pickings under a table.
[21:37] <_2> why do the yanks always talk about bodily excreesions  ?
[21:38]  * cuzbuntu a yank?
[21:38] <dr_willis> _2,  same reason the brits are always talking abouyt the 'loo' ?
[21:39] <_2> probably so.   i never understood that one either.
[21:39] <dr_willis> Potty Humor is universiale
[21:40] <_2> ah so it comes from a universitable
[21:41]  * _2 hands the "dictionairtary" back to dr_willis 
[21:42] <dr_willis> You can bankanate on it
[21:42] <seba> !es
[21:42] <dr_willis> wow  - we havent had a grub question all day have we?
[21:49] <filerem> hi
[21:50] <radovich> i did it!
[21:50] <radovich> i recovered my kubuntu!
[21:52] <Glady> congrats
[21:52] <radovich> thank you!
[21:53] <jussi01> !yay | radovich
[21:54] <dr_willis> !joy
[21:54] <radovich> jussi01: thank you very much.
[21:55] <radovich> last time this happened, i reinstalled. now i am lesser noob than i was before. the Force is strong in you jussi01
[21:56] <radovich> btw... in kde4 i was fidgetting with the panel, and now it is gone. how do i get it back?
[21:59] <Glady> fidgetting
[21:59] <radovich> i was moving it left and right...
[21:59] <Glady> up and down
[21:59] <radovich> and now it is GONE
[21:59] <radovich> sorry for yelling :)
[22:00] <radovich> front to back...
[22:00] <Glady> it is the pain of the loss
[22:00]  * dr_willis weeps
[22:01]  * coreymon77 remembers kde 3, when all you had to do was rerun kicker whenever the pannel disappeared
[22:01] <Glady> my endless test.......
[22:01] <radovich> kde4 is bloated. pretty, but bloated
[22:01] <dr_willis> kde4 is still very much a 'work in progress'
[22:01] <radovich> yep
[22:02] <unix> hey what is ht best chat roon for Red hat linux ?
[22:02] <Glady> lol
[22:02] <Glady> bloated
[22:02] <radovich> wip that pcbsd guys decided to put on. and they have no support, whatsoever how to put kde3 on it. i mean in fibonacci
[22:02] <Glady> you know that cortisol has that effect ?
[22:02] <radovich> unix: try googling. there should bee #redhat
[22:02] <radovich> here
[22:03] <radovich> noooo, i do not do drugs :)
[22:04] <radovich> well... i am off tu pursuit a kde3 install howto for bsd
[22:08] <giuvita> ciao a tutti
[22:09] <giuvita> ubuntu non mi fa usare il microfono incorporato al computer portatile
[22:09] <giuvita> qualcuno puo aiutarmi?
[22:12] <ign0ramus|afknfl> !it | giuvita
[22:21] <sourcemaker> crypto luks does not accept my password? do I really lost my password or are ther know problems after kernel upgrade?
[22:21] <joseph> whenever i load an url from xchat, it always brings firefox into focus.  is there a way to get around that?
[22:23] <Glady> u dont like firefox?
[22:23] <joseph> no, i love firefox
[22:23] <joseph> i just want it to stay on its own virtual desktop
[22:23] <Glady> then dont complain
[22:23] <dr_willis> he wants to load a url, but not look it.. :)
[22:24] <joseph> dr_willis: i just want it to load in the virtual desktop it's already in, not jump to this desktop
[22:24] <Glady> lol
[22:24] <Glady> u cant escape it
[22:24] <szakulec> I have adept updater open, and gtk-qt-engine says it could be upgraded, but it wants to bring in 10 new gnome libraries which it previously didn't need- is there anyway I can get the upgrade without the extra libraries installing?
[22:24] <Glady> it is ur destiny
[22:24] <dr_willis> ive neer noticed that problem.. but i rarely have firefox on a different desktop
[22:24] <joseph> Glady: if you don't have a solution, then you're not helping. and i'm not laughing.
[22:25] <Glady> oh sorry I try to help from the  bottom of my heart
[22:26] <joseph> it didn't seem to behave that before i started using hardy
[22:28] <Glady> why u dont simply turn off ur pc and take a long walk?
[22:29] <joseph> Glady: the bottom line is this - if you have nothing to say to help, just be silent.
[22:29] <Glady> ok
[22:29] <Glady> sorry
[22:29] <Glady> byebye
[22:29] <Glady> good luck anyway
[22:30] <dr_willis> i wonder if xchat is calling firefox to handle the URL in a different way, with a differnt option
[22:30] <Glady> more professional?
[22:30] <Glady> or more freindlyuser?
[22:31] <Glady> u have so many oprtions
[22:31] <Glady> just check teh right boxes
[22:32] <joseph> dr_willis: well, i think url handling is done by settings in kcontrol
[22:32] <redDEAD> how do i access kcontrol in kde4, in ubuntu?
[22:32] <joseph> re doc
[22:33] <joseph> redDEAD: well, from the kmenu
[22:34] <dr_willis> Using kde4 on the other machine.. its loading the web sites in Konqueror...
[22:34] <dr_willis> silly things
[22:34] <redDEAD> joseph, i dont see kmenu in apt
[22:35] <joseph> dude
[22:35] <joseph> it's the start menu
[22:35] <joseph> it's a blue box with a k in it
[22:35] <Glady> k
[22:35] <Glady> this is the good one
[22:35] <doc_willis> I cant even figure out how to make xchat load urls in firefox under kde4. doh
[22:37] <doc_willis> google.com
[22:37] <redDEAD> joseph, im not retarded, im running ubuntu. I want to find the equivalent to kcontrol in kde4. I want to change the look of my kde application in gnome to look more gtkish.
[22:38] <joseph> oh
[22:38] <joseph> you're in the wrong channel, then man
[22:38] <joseph> this is for kubuntu
[22:38] <joseph> redDEAD: i suggest #ubuntu
[22:39] <redDEAD> how do i access kcontrol without kmenu then? that should be in the relam of answerable for a kubuntu user.
[22:40] <joseph> redDEAD: alt+f2 should bring up a run dialog where you can type it.
[22:40] <joseph> redDEAD: you may consider running it from a terminal program, like konsole or gnome-terminal
[22:41] <redDEAD> joseph, please stop trying to help me. allow someone how knows a little more
[22:41] <ign0ramus|afknfl> redDEAD: if you're running ubuntu+kde, then you are running 'kubuntu'.. also, if you're having problems with kde4, you should see #kubuntu-kde4
[22:41] <joseph> redDEAD: you can use /ignore then.  you claim not to be retarded, but that remains to be seen.
[22:42] <ign0ramus|afknfl> wow. what a douche.
[22:42] <dr_willis> redDEAD,  i normally add that kde-settings applet/menu to the kicker.   this is  kde3 only however
[22:42] <joseph> in all fairness, i was sort of douchey too
[22:42] <dr_willis> Oh well
[22:42] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: he left
[22:42]  * dr_willis was kind and polite
[22:42] <dr_willis> :P
[22:42] <ign0ramus> as per usual :)
[22:43]  * dr_willis goes chaseing after them!
[22:43] <joseph> i'm going to wait until kde4 is more stable
[22:43] <dr_willis> I still cant see where under kde4 to make xchat load urls in firefox.
[22:43] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: are you really a doctor, or do you just play one on irc?
[22:43]  * dr_willis is a Dr of Love
[22:43] <dr_willis> :P
[22:43] <joseph> dr_willis: maybe through the url catcher config in xchat?
[22:43] <ign0ramus> i will take your word on that one :)
[22:43] <dr_willis> joseph,  theres the 'default' that is not even defined in there.
[22:44] <joseph> the default is opera, iirc
[22:44] <dr_willis> joseph,  i cant figure out the rught syntax to add an enetyr for firefox either.
[22:44]  * joseph nods
[22:44] <dr_willis> Opera one looked like it was commented out
[22:44] <ign0ramus> does anyone use irssi?
[22:44] <dr_willis> !opera -remote 'openURL(%s)'
[22:44] <dr_willis> Wait a sec.. is that ! needed.. hmmm
[22:44] <dr_willis> perhaps i need !firefox %s
[22:45] <joseph> that's what i'd try
[22:45] <dr_willis> I allready shut down the other box..  :) i will mess withit some day...
[22:45] <xbxb> When I log out, which user will then own the processes that I started? Or will they be killed?
[22:46] <dr_willis> They would die.. unless you used nohup , or some other way toi keep them alive
[22:46] <joseph> you know, it's for these little annoying things i'm glad i abandoned kde4 and stuck with the stable hardy
[22:47] <Glady> the url link
[22:48] <aziz> is there a im client with support for MSN Multimedia?
[22:48] <Glady> u want it to stay as a jesus place
[22:48] <aziz> *an*
[22:49] <Glady> lost in translation
[22:49] <Glady> not able to read url
[22:49] <Glady> damn web
[22:50] <Glady> rebooting
[22:50] <mp> Question: How can I upgrade to Intrepid Alpha in Kubuntu? I know in Ubuntu you do 'update-manager -d', but what is the KDE equivalent?
[22:50] <Glady> ok
[22:50] <Glady> got it
[22:51] <Glady> was an update problem
[22:51] <ign0ramus> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/intrepid/alpha-6/
[22:53] <mp> ign0ramus yah but I don't want to burn a cd just to upgrade!
[22:55] <dr_willis> mp i would check the #ubuntu+1 channel
[22:56] <mp> thanks
[22:58] <ign0ramus> mp: generally, you would use apt-get dist-upgrade, but an Alpha version won't be in the repos.  other than downloading a nightly build, i don't know of another way
[22:59] <mp> damn
[22:59] <ign0ramus> mp: i do admire your bravery in trying out an Alpha with buggy kde, though
[23:00] <mp> hell I've formatted my computer three times in the past two weeks already - so bring it on!
[23:00] <avihayb> did they make a full switch to KDE 4?
[23:00] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: oh, i shrunk my Windows partition and grew my Kubuntu partition last night- worked exactly as you said
[23:00] <ign0ramus> avihayb: Intrepid is KDE4 only
[23:00] <dr_willis> weee :)
[23:01] <avihayb> shame
[23:01] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: I didn't think it was going to take 6 hours though!
[23:01] <avihayb> I mean kde4 is just not there yet
[23:01] <ign0ramus> avihayb: i agree... i downloaded an early version of KDE4.0, and went *running* back to 3.5.9
[23:02] <mp> people in #amarok talk about how 4 is faster than 3.5
[23:02] <network_> olá
[23:02] <ign0ramus> mp: maybe because it's missing half of its components? ;)
[23:02] <ign0ramus> i kid...
[23:03] <network_> Lolll
[23:03] <network_> BRAZILL ?
[23:03] <network_> from brazil ?
[23:03] <ign0ramus> !br | network_
[23:03] <network_> alguem do brasil ?
[23:03] <avihayb> well, I'm running the current version on ma laptop, and with all the pretty and shiny and whatnot, it still won't shut down my screen and let me hibernate, and the control applet is still lacking
[23:03] <ign0ramus> what the heck, ubottu?
[23:04] <avihayb> OMG, they killed ubottu
[23:04] <ign0ramus> you bastards!
[23:05] <avihayb> :-> thanks, I was afraid no one will pick that up...
[23:05] <ign0ramus> nothing is obscure on #kubuntu
[23:07] <ign0ramus> i've never seen ubottu leave before
[23:08] <ign0ramus> it can be stressful though, dishing out nuggets of information day in and day out.  a bot needs time to itself, you know?
[23:09] <network_> all fool
[23:09] <Glady> 	I m a bot now
[23:10] <avihayb> !br
[23:10] <ign0ramus> avihayb: ubottu is not even on the server any more :O
[23:10] <network_> help intall msn in Kubunto kde please
[23:10] <ign0ramus> network_: use Kopete
[23:10] <avihayb> I was trying to see if glady will answer
[23:10] <network_> kopete is a browser ?
[23:10] <ign0ramus> avihayb: he will eventually, but it will be irrelevant
[23:11] <ign0ramus> network_: no, IM client
[23:11] <network_> thanks
[23:11] <ign0ramus> you're welcome
[23:11] <Glady> I think is my jerusalem now
[23:11] <ign0ramus> avihayb: see?
[23:11] <Glady> I have problems with the globe
[23:12] <Glady> all over the world
[23:12] <Glady> and so many lies
[23:12] <avihayb> ign0ramus: man, you're like psychic
[23:12] <ign0ramus> avihayb: I've dealt with Canadians before ;)
[23:13] <Glady> we are all psychic here now
[23:13] <Glady> !ign)ramus
[23:14] <Glady> bot doesnt answe
[23:14] <Glady> rr
[23:14] <Glady> glady is crashing
[23:15] <Glady> I want jezabel
[23:26] <Glady> ok
[23:26] <Glady> I stop kiding
[23:26] <Glady> ciao
[23:26] <Glady> u dont deserve to be talked with seriously
[23:28] <xbxb> no one using kde does
[23:28] <xbxb> j/k
[23:31] <Glady> scottish maybe now
[23:31] <Glady> who knows
[23:31] <Glady> jesus christ
[23:34] <xbxb> jesus sucks
[23:34] <telekinesis> jesus is dead
[23:34] <xbxb> plus he never lived
[23:35] <telekinesis> he lived...
[23:35] <xbxb> whatever you say
[23:35] <telekinesis> he was a average person
[23:35] <telekinesis> like you and I
[23:35] <xbxb> how do you know he lived? are you around 2008 years old?
[23:35] <telekinesis> no I read books
[23:36] <xbxb> maybe you read the wrong books
[23:36] <telekinesis> maybe you are 18 years old?
[23:36] <xbxb> maybe you just stop reading scifi literature and more rely on scientific books
[23:38] <Glady> hell on earth
[23:38] <Glady> u are hell on earth
[23:38] <Glady> bye later freinds
[23:38] <xbxb> there's no hell
[23:38] <Glady> hell exist
[23:38] <xbxb> in your mind
[23:39] <Glady> the prrof is I live it
[23:39] <xbxb> prrof?
[23:39] <Glady> proof
[23:39] <xbxb> proof?
[23:39] <Glady> I m living hell right now
[23:39] <Glady> so it proves hell exits
[23:39] <xbxb> that's not proof, that's delusional thinking
[23:39] <Glady> omg
[23:39] <Glady> you are delusional
[23:39] <favro> !ot
[23:40] <Glady> ok
[23:40] <Glady> I m little bit mad
[23:40] <xbxb> I'm not
[23:40] <Glady> so I will go
[23:40] <xbxb> I won't
[23:40] <xbxb> good bye, Glady
[23:40] <Glady> later then
[23:40] <xbxb> I hope not
[23:41] <Glady> gnagna
[23:41] <xbxb> sorry?
[23:41] <Glady> I hope not...I hope not
[23:41] <Glady> u are arrogant
[23:42] <Glady> but as I m angry
[23:42] <Glady> I will go
[23:42] <xbxb> please
[23:42] <xbxb> just go
[23:52] <Nigskki> rite
[23:52] <Nigskki> i have a pressing issue
[23:52] <Nigskki> qt has been making for like, half an hour
[23:52] <Nigskki> wtf
[23:53] <tekteen> ?
[23:53] <Nigskki> pretty self explanitory...
[23:53] <tekteen> ?
[23:53] <tekteen> "has been making" ???
[23:54] <Nigskki> make
[23:54] <Nigskki> shouldve said compiling
[23:54] <Nigskki> but yeah
[23:54] <tekteen> ok
[23:55] <tekteen> now I get it
[23:55] <tekteen> and?
[23:55] <tekteen> do you have a slow machine?
[23:55] <Nigskki> no
[23:55] <tekteen> cpu speed?
[23:55] <Nigskki> 2gig ram, duo core 1.7 ghz
[23:55] <tekteen> ok
[23:55] <tekteen> what is it doing now
[23:55] <tekteen> I do not know much about it
[23:56] <tekteen> but you need to give more info
[23:56] <Nigskki> can a makefile loop?
[23:56] <tekteen> ...
[23:56] <Nigskki> well its doing stuff
[23:56] <tekteen> not as far as I know
[23:56] <tekteen> it can't loop
[23:56] <Nigskki> so its probably just randomly taking a long time
[23:56] <Nigskki> never mind then
[23:56] <tekteen> maybe