[05:52] <[reed]> asac: ping? [09:20] [reed]: pong ... still awake? === asac_ is now known as asac === fta_ is now known as fta [12:35] asac, i would like your help for tb3 [12:37] fta: what is the problem? [12:37] Exception: ReferenceError: gBrowser is not defined [12:38] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/tb3-1.png [12:38] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/tb3-2.png [12:38] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/tb3-3.png [12:38] same from dist/bin [12:38] usually it means that something is missing in the chrome [12:38] assuming b1 is imminent, i doubt it's that bad [12:38] when did that start? [12:39] donno, my last version was a2 in cvs [12:39] fta: have you tried if using the "upstream" build instructions make this go away? [12:41] it started in the lat alpha or beta1 i dont remember thats one of the reasons i havent updated my PPA for b1 [12:42] s/lat/last [12:42] hi gnomefreak [12:42] hi [12:42] well. i am trying to build comm-central now [12:42] will try to stay away from computer as much as possible today ... otherwise my stamina will not last throughout the next week i frea [12:42] fear [12:43] * gnomefreak thinking of taking a look at bookmarksftp maybe i can fix it and there than is no need to push another bookmarks extension [12:44] fta: could also be a corrupted profile or something [12:44] have you tried a fresh profile? [12:46] fta: for me it's working though :) [12:46] indeed, seems better with a fresh profile, mine was a copy of my 2.0 profile [12:47] sebner, my ppa ? [12:47] fta: ok [12:47] fta: sure [12:47] fta: copy of a .mozilla-thunderbird one? [12:47] yes [12:47] or .thunderbird (like produced by upstream builds) [12:47] fta: check wehther there is an absolute path or something [12:48] no, i clone .mozilla-thunderbird => .thunderbird-3.0 at startup [12:48] fta: yes [12:48] thats what i understood [12:48] the reason why i didnt migrate to .thunderbird in the past [12:48] asac: and so it's working for me :) [12:48] was because there were always regressions for some people when i tried [12:48] asac: argh -> to fta [12:49] which usually should boil down to absolute paths that are in the profile from early tbird times [12:49] i couldnt spot which ... thus maybe we have the chance to spot another in your profile ;) [12:50] fta: so lets keep your profile for futher analysis [12:50] fta: when was the .mozilla-thunderbird profile created? [12:50] like < 1 year ... or > 4 years ? [12:51] i would say 2007-02-07 [12:52] ok. then its most likely a migration bug in thunderbird and not an absolute path [12:52] e.g. it would probably happen in the same way if you had used .thunderbird and would still be uing it in 3.x [12:53] fta: hildon :( [12:53] did you add that to build depedns? [12:53] hildon ? no, why ? [12:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/48867/ [12:53] urgh [12:54] let me see .. .may configure found something hildon realted on my system and just deliberately enabled some mobile feature [12:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/48867/ [12:55] sigh [12:56] libhildonmime ? [12:56] they added it without even thinking about providing a --enable switch [12:56] fta: yeah [12:56] that's in xul [12:56] if you have that on your system it will fail [12:56] the build [12:56] that needs to be fixed upstream [12:56] with a proper enable flag [12:57] same for libosso [12:57] ignorant bastards ;) [12:59] ok lets see how far we get without that mime-dev package on my system, [13:03] fta: is calendar now integrated in default builds? [13:03] i don't think so [13:04] http://home.kairo.at/blog/2008-09/welcome_calendar_to_comm_central [13:05] so it's in comm-central but not part of tb [13:07] http://www.osnews.com/story/20307/The_Linux_Ecosystem_and_Canonical_s_Contribution [13:22] well that sucks, anyone know where upstream bookmarksftp is? i cant find it anywhere, searches bring up debian i want authors version [13:23] nevermind [13:24] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/14?application=firefox&id=14 [13:24] asac: i think we need to find something else. its not compatible with firefox 3 and hasnt been updated since novenber of 2004 (upstream) see https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/14?id=14&vid=15&category= i will let debian bug that we need to find another extensions that works and is free [13:24] it's in the control file [13:29] what is? [13:30] ah the upstream link [13:30] yeah i already found it [13:37] gnomefreak, this one is mentioned as a successor https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8426 [13:38] thanks. [13:40] fta: is it too late to remove bookmarksftp from repos? see bug 272746 and im working on syncplaces thank. I thnk i even have upstream bzr branch already [13:40] Launchpad bug 272746 in bookmarksftp "Please removed bookmarksftp from Intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272746 [13:42] assuming ff2 is removed, there's no point in keeping this ext, it's useless [13:42] fta: thats why i filed the bug above [13:43] but for the new one, it may be too late for this cycle [13:43] asac, ^^ your thoughts ? [13:53] fta: the fortify fix hasnt landed yet :( [13:54] in 3.1 [13:54] yep,i know, check my branch ;) [13:54] asac: what fix? [13:54] fta: whats the bug id again? [13:54] moz bug [13:55] asac: what bug? ^ ^ [13:55] bz412610_att335369_realpath_overflow.patch [13:55] mozilla bug 412610 [13:55] Mozilla bug 412610 in Startup and Profile System "MAXPATHLEN too small for glibc's realpath()" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412610 [13:55] sebner: fix for http://paste.ubuntu.com/48889/ [13:55] asac: when does this occur? [13:56] mine was bigger :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/48890/ [13:56] sebner: on startup [13:57] sebner, i fixed it in my ppa [13:57] fta: sure but it's now fixed with your new ppa version [13:57] sebner: if it doesnt happen it wont happen [13:57] fta: ^^ [13:57] sebner: we have the fix everywhere [13:57] its just not yet landed upstream [13:57] asac: fix fix fix \o/ [13:59] fta: which patch are we using? [14:00] the one with review+? [14:00] att335369 [14:04] hm, i hope that browser/app/application.ini patch will not kill the builders [14:12] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Schedule [14:15] if you want a good laugh: http://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/ [14:16] 5474 Sep 17 Launchpad PPA ( 50) [PPA fta] Accepted: mozilla-devscripts 0.11~fta1 (source) [14:16] 5630 Sep 21 Launchpad PPA ( 101) [PPA fta] [ubuntu/intrepid] xulrunner-1.9.1 1.9.1~b1~hg20080921r19468+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1 (Accepted) [14:17] could it be that ppa will soon build for more than ubuntu ?? [14:18] this isnt good :( i need smoke, i think syncplaces is non-free (ok i do know) [14:25] can someone give me an idea if this fits under any of the licenses that we can package in extensions? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/540809 [14:28] * gnomefreak needs to edit copyright first [14:35] maybe that is MPL? It looks simular from what i can tell [14:36] only thing is it doesnt say what license nor mention of Mozilla in the license [14:39] Minutes for the last meeting are done... I'm not sure what are the statuses on the current tasks, so I mostly set them to "Not started". https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2008-09-14 [14:40] Jazzva: can you give me a hint on this license (if its ok to package it) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/540809 [14:41] I think it will never get into the archive. [14:41] This Software and its source code are proprietary products of the Author [14:42] thats what i saw too but in another paragraph it states we can modify distribute ect... [14:42] nope, just to use and distribute [14:43] you are not allowed to: (a) modify or create any derivative works of the Software; (b) reverse-engineer, decompile, disassemble or otherwise attempt to derive the source code for the Software except and only to the extent that such activity is expressly permitted by applicable law notwithstanding this limitation; (c) manipulate or alter the components that make up this Software in any way; (d) sell, rent, lease, sublicense, o [14:43] r otherwise transfer rights to the Software. [14:43] ah not alloowed to modify i thought it rad we could [14:43] well shit [14:43] this is totally non-free... [14:45] this is starting to get hard to find one that is free [14:45] gnomefreak, aren't there any on the needs-maintainer list? [14:45] wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/List [14:46] yeah bookmarksftp and we cant do that === Jazzva changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: #ubuntu-mozillateam Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com | Please help Mozilla QA tracker: http://tinyurl.com/6yo6g7 | Firefox 3 released to hardy-updates! | Next meeting will be held on TBA (agenda available at: http://tinyurl.com/2ekzoq ) [14:46] i think we can get rid of the firefox 3 has .... to hardy [14:47] huh? [14:48] bookmarksftp isnt even in the "need-maintainer" list [14:48] only bookmarkstfp was on there (i just removed it) it is no longer maintained since 2004 it has since changed to syncplaces [14:49] i just removed it [14:49] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/List [14:49] gnomefreak: ^^ [14:49] flashgot and linkwidgets [14:49] i know [14:49] soci [14:49] I JUST REMOVED IT due to not maintained since 2004 [14:49] gnomefreak: right. so what is about linkwidgets? [14:49] ok, time to check extensions... [14:49] maybe resurrect? [14:50] thats not gonna happen on my side [14:50] the source has a bunch of sources for all differnt extensions [14:50] ok. thought you were interested as you commented on the bug [14:50] hmm [14:50] so linkwidget has native components? [14:51] i was going to but i looked at the source and sid screw it too much work for something like an extensions [14:51] otherwise coulnd we just package it from .xpi instead of tree? [14:51] i guess i havent looked at xpi yet [14:51] gnomefreak: if there is no native component in the .xpi [14:51] we can just use the med-xpi- tools [14:51] if there is a license missing in the xpi we can ask the author to also ship the license in it [14:52] and ask him for permission to add it to the pseudo-xpi-source until that happens [14:52] asac, how about filing two bugs? One for "Packages depend on firefox-2, and don't have a version which is compat with firefox 3. Remove them" and the second one for "Update packages" [14:53] Jazzva: oh ... i cannot say how thankful i am that you took the initiative and brought up minutes [14:53] asac, I'm ashamed I didn't do it few days ago, as I said [14:53] Jazzva: which package would be in the "update packages" [14:53] Jazzva: err, actually the minutes were my task afair :( [14:53] asac, still not sure. Haven't checked them yet [14:54] asac, I think it was mine... but never mind :) [14:54] ok ;) [14:54] now they are done [14:54] asac, I would open a bug report for "Update them" if there are those that can be updated [14:54] http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/mozdev.org/clav/linkwidget/ 2006. [14:54] and that would only be for those extensions that depend only on ff-2, but there is an update that is compat with ff-3 [14:55] and still has nothing to do with bookmarks [14:56] it being 2 years old its likely no longer maintained (atleast google hasnt found anything newer that 07/2006 [14:57] i hav others to work on but this isnt just for ubuntu its also for debian (bookmark extension) [14:58] not sure how debian handles non free extensions but when he replys ill ask him about it [15:01] seems that Vimperator is shipping license.txt in the CVS asac that is atleast said on the bug you filed on it [15:02] gmail notifier still no license afaict [15:04] woohoo... I passed the last hardest (or most boring) exam... telecommunications :) [15:04] just saw that [15:05] congratulations Jazzva!!! :) [15:05] thanks Volans :) [15:06] urgh [15:06] having javascript turned off while previewing a blog entry isnt good :( [15:07] it saved multiple items for each preview [15:07] LOL [15:07] yeah ... and as it is, this time planet ubuntu was immediately publishing it [15:07] better than administrate an SMF forum with JS disabled asac ;) [15:07] not like 30 minutes later [15:07] hehe [15:08] anyway ... disregard what is currently on planet [15:08] the real content (which of course missed this planet publisher run) is: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/152-ubuntu-mozillateam-minutes-14th-sep-08-....html [15:08] http://teddziuba.com/2008/09/a-web-os-are-you-dense.html :) [15:10] ok im gone for the day i think [15:10] gnomefreak: enjoy [15:10] thanks ill try to [15:18] fta: so how about an upload batch ;) [15:18] fta: next week there will be sec release. is there a seamonkey 1.1.12 tag already? [15:19] SEAMONKEY_1_1_12_RELEASE [15:19] but not sure it's really out yet [15:20] asac, ok for the upload batch but not before 6pm today, i have somewhere to go to 1st. [15:24] fta: ok cool. lets say at 7? [15:24] i added bug 272772 [15:24] Launchpad bug 272772 in firefox-3.0 "packages that Depend/Recommend/Suggest firefox (meta-package) must alternatively Depend/Recommend/Suggest abrowser" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272772 [15:24] and made it release critical [15:24] i also included the current result of apt-cache rdepends firefox [15:24] we should go through that list and add bug tasks for each package that needs to be updated [15:25] however, i think there is no other way to verify that than doing an apt-get source ... and looking at the control [15:25] anyone wants to help? :) [15:25] Volans: you asked if you could help on the transition right? ;) [15:26] asac: translation of what? [15:26] * Volans try to remember [15:26] Volans: transition ;) [15:26] Volans: bug 272772 [15:26] ah yes! :) [15:26] Launchpad bug 272772 in firefox-3.0 "packages that Depend/Recommend/Suggest firefox (meta-package) must alternatively Depend/Recommend/Suggest abrowser" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272772 [15:26] sure [15:26] Volans: read https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/272772/comments/1 [15:26] Launchpad bug 272772 in firefox-3.0 "packages that Depend/Recommend/Suggest firefox (meta-package) must alternatively Depend/Recommend/Suggest abrowser" [High,Confirmed] [15:26] (I have sent you a mail tonight with a summary of med-scripts) [15:26] most work should be to look and identify packages out of that list that really need to be updated [15:27] Volans: oh. [15:27] Volans: did you committ them too? [15:27] (i try to not read email on sunday - i dont want to read bad news ;)) [15:27] lol [15:27] no don't have committed waiting your feedback [15:28] due to some problems... [15:28] is a very long email, sorry :) [15:32] urgh [15:33] ok let me try to find it without looking at anything else [15:34] there is a list of newer version for 10 of 16 branches tested [15:35] for 6 the script fails for 2 different reason (no actual version in existing branch OR no actual version on AMO folder) [15:35] this is a very shor summary :) [15:36] asac: in the meantime, I can do some automatic change to the packages for the transition of abrowser? (excluding extensions ATM) [15:40] asac: the list in the bug you have reported was made on intrepid right? [15:49] Volans: ok [15:49] Volans: those that have no proper version in install.rdf are not xpi packaged [15:49] so they can be ignored for now .... i think [15:49] at least for the moment [15:49] ok [15:50] Volans: also ... i think we should use explicit tags [15:50] so you can better identify which version is actually packaged [15:50] in the branch name? [15:51] Volans: no ... i think that we should use bzr tag [15:51] like MED_XPI_AMO_0.7a [15:51] or something [15:51] Volans: but we only have to look at .upstream for this round [15:52] some extensions have only .ubuntu [15:52] and not .upstream [15:52] Volans: yes. those need to be resurrected [15:52] Volans: either rev 1 is .upstream [15:52] or the last revision you see in the bzr log that was merged [15:53] you can then do bzr branch -r 7.1.4 extension.ubutun extension.upstream [15:53] and get a perfect upstream branch [15:53] ok so I have to change this in the scripts, actually I have used the .ubuntu because there are more than .upstream [15:53] (7.1.4 being the revision that you see in bzr log as being merged) [15:53] yes [15:53] Volans: no. i think those that dont have .upstream need to be fixed manually once [15:53] ok [15:53] Volans: no need to put that much work in to fixing it smartly in script [15:53] its not easy to find which was the last "upstream" merge programatically [15:54] no no manually [15:54] as there could also be merged from packaging branches [15:54] yeah [15:54] instead, for the abrowser transition the right way is download source package, change debian control and changelog and re-package? [15:54] Volans: thats a one time action. later people should request an "upstream" branch before starting to do the packaging [15:55] Volans: yeah. well. you can do that ... or just look in debian/control ... if it has firefox in depends/recommends/sugests, just add a bug target [15:55] err [15:55] task [15:55] so fta and me can go over the bug tasks and upload all packages [15:55] debdiff might be ok, but doesnt really take work from us [15:55] but getting a reduced list of packages that are affected would help a lot [15:55] because then we could just go package by package and upload [15:56] actually I'm downloading all the source packages [15:56] Volans: right [15:56] but since you cannot upload it doesnt take much work from us if you append a debdiff [15:56] we have to download all those that you find need to be changed too [15:56] and adding the depend and recommends just takes a second or two ;) [15:56] D) if ubuntu version was uploaded to AMO before then 25/03/2007 (AMO [15:56] public folder have 25/03/2007 00:00 as datetime for all older addons) [15:57] Volans: ^^ [15:57] what problem does that cause? [15:57] we sync all anyway, right? [15:57] all the version older than 25/03/2007 00:00 have the same date and time on AMO, as I use ls -t this do not list the extensions in proper way [15:58] this happen only if the actual Ubuntu packaged version [15:58] Volans: is that for "get-import-queie"? [15:58] Volans: mirror just runs wget right? [15:58] (and shouldnt care for the sake of proper synching) [15:58] yes, is only for get-newer [15:58] Volans: we should sort that by install.rdf version [15:58] and not by date/timestamp [15:59] thought you did that :) [15:59] might be a bit more tricky ... maybe sh is too bad for that. feel free to use whatever script language helps you ... or even C code ;) [15:59] actually I have made a little simpler version, but can be done in a simple way [15:59] actually I list with ls- l and check the install.rdf [16:00] and stop when found the actual ubuntu version [16:00] in this way I don't made version comparison [16:00] that can be tricky [16:02] asac: damn mozilla-openoffice.org source package is 820MB :) [16:03] Volans: skip that ... if thats too much for you [16:03] fta loves to download huge chunks through his gigabit pipe ;) [16:04] that pacakge already downloaded... I was wondering why it does not have already finished and made a du -csh :D [16:04] ah ok [16:05] Volans: yeah. so just add the package to the bug when they have firefox mentioned directly [16:05] i will be off for 30 minutes or so [16:05] me too, but for a couple of hour or so [16:05] so you prefer to add the task instead of made a debdiff asac? [16:08] Volans: task is a must ... debdiff is ok, but not requred [16:09] ok so task :) you know if I can do that automatically with the new LP API? [16:15] Volans: most likely you can ;) [16:15] but most likely it will take more time ;) [16:15] LOL [16:15] Volans: you have to click "also affects distribution" [16:15] and use Ubuntu -> packagename [16:16] then set it to triaged or confirmed - in case you dont have triaged powers yet [16:16] yes I know thanks, download finished [16:33] back, sooner than expected. [16:33] asac, ready when you are [16:37] fta: volans is still doing some preps ;) [16:37] not sure if want to start right away :) [16:37] I have the list ready [16:37] what for ? [16:37] attacching to the bug [16:37] Volans: did you open tasks? [16:37] ah cool [16:37] fta: figuring which rdepends actually require modification [16:38] fta: so we can go through a reduced list ... and not the one you get by apt-cache rdepends [16:38] fta: he is opening tasks in the bug right now [16:38] asac: fta https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/272772/comments/2 [16:38] Launchpad bug 272772 in firefox-3.0 "packages that Depend/Recommend/Suggest firefox (meta-package) must alternatively Depend/Recommend/Suggest abrowser" [High,Confirmed] [16:38] fta: once thats done we can easily coordinate who looks into what by assigning each task ;) [16:39] Volans: good. except that that list is cluttered a bit by firefox-3.0 [16:39] and firefox-2 ;) [16:39] asac, i guess i can start with the ones in universe and you by main [16:39] I'm going out now but hope to find some time later today. [16:39] asac: what is the problem? [16:39] fta: right. but i would love to have a list first. [16:39] I can regenerate it in a couple of seconds ;) [16:39] Volans: well. that list also includes packages with firefox-3.0 [16:39] Volans: if firefox-3.0 is there then we dont need to touch it [16:40] ak ok sorry, let me made some changes to the script and regenerate the list [16:40] Volans: i mean... if there is "firefox" we always want to touch it [16:40] but if there is only firefox-3.0 we dont need to [16:40] ok [16:41] fta: ok. so changelog entry could read: [16:41] abrowser addition upload by mozillateam [16:41] * fix LP: #272772: packages that Depend/Recommend/Suggest firefox (meta-package) must alternatively Depend/Recommend/Suggest abrowser [16:42] - update debian/control [16:42] fta: usually we should respect teh changelog format ... at least if we can see a line ;) [16:43] ah asac for gnome-do-plugins there isn't a source package [16:43] I got an apt error [16:43] Volans: ok. we should note those and think later what to do about them [16:44] fta: ok. Volans appears to not have the time to add the bug targets. so probably we should add the package before upload (to properly track something) [16:44] fta: ok. then lets start with those that are not extensions [16:45] i will add the packages to the bug and assign to me which i am working on ... so we dont conflict [16:45] ;) [16:45] asac: lines with only firefox-2? [16:45] give me 5 min, i'm writing a small helper script to take care of dl and changelog, i keep control manual as it could be tricky [16:45] Volans: not needed for this [16:45] ok [16:45] Volans: so basically all those locales should not be in there ;) [16:46] yes I'm doing it [16:46] Volans: can you also dump the section there to? [16:46] like "main" or universe? [16:46] (next or under the package name)? [16:46] if you have no time then its fine [16:46] sure, Is a matter of seconds :D [16:47] fta: you probably should abort the apt-get source download when there is Vcs-Bzr header [16:47] asac what is the wuickest way do get the main or universe? [16:47] probably needs to take look [16:47] there are some, but if it's debian, we should do it anyway right ? [16:48] NOTICE: 'screenlets' packaging is maintained in the 'Svn' version control system at: [16:48] svn://svn.debian.org/python-apps/packages/screenlets/trunk [16:48] Volans: the binary packages have pool/{universe,main}/ ... in their filename ... maybe that? [16:48] Volans: i assume you are looking at the Packages? [16:48] Volans: arent there two packges? one for main and one for universe? [16:49] Volans: if you use apt-cache then the .deb file path is probably the way to go [16:49] I have do an apt-get source for the list [16:49] fta: yeah. that is probably a debian package ... we should forward the patch to debbugs [16:49] and tag it somehow :/ [16:49] the new log is only 140 lines [16:49] fta: but if its not an ubuntu bzr, we can just upload [16:50] fta: if it doesnt have a ubuntu package version we have to ubuntunize maintainer fields too ;) [16:50] like: sed -e 's/Maintainer: /XSBC-Original-Maintainer: / [16:50] based on what ? motu ? mt ? [16:50] fta: motu [16:50] if its univerese [16:50] ok [16:50] core dev if its main [16:50] asac: new list attached to the bug [16:51] sorry, now I really have to go :) [16:51] but i will do main anyway [16:51] Volans: thanks [16:51] I don't have done the manin-univertse thing... [16:51] Volans: much better ;) [16:51] Volans: yeah. should be really just a few (if any) main packages [16:51]