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ompaulas said in channel at that time <elky> @mark wobblywu is currently muted in -ot for failing to heed a request to cease a topic, then for arguing, and then for mocking. the topic has little to do with it. he is to apologise before the mute is lifted.00:10
* ompaul suggests strongly to wobblywu to actually talk with jrib or do as the topic for the channel points out and not idle00:11
wobblywusorry about that, my mind easily wanders at these hours00:30
wobblywuI did cease the topic (although I did not break any rules when discussing said topic), I did not argue, nor did I mock00:30
wobblywuand I find the idea of having to apologize highly unusual, and nothing more than an attempt to humiliate me00:31
wobblywuI believe punishment should be relative to the severity of the 'crime', and I doubt many ops would disagree with that00:32
wobblywuI was initially warned for "glorifying the nazis", which I did not even in the slightest bit do00:33
wobblywuI tried to explain that which was then taken as "arguing"00:33
wobblywuand eventually decided to give up and tried to get everything on a positive note again (by pointing out it was international freedom day yesterday, which it was) -- which was somehow taken as "mocking"00:33
wobblywuand for it I was indefinitely banned, apparently00:34
wobblywujrib, see above, please :)00:41
PriceChildelkbuntu: around? elky_work 00:47
PriceChild!o4o01:03
ubottuSome things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which always turn into flame wars: war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, questionably legal activities, suicide are not for here. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy)01:03
PriceChildwobblywu: Conversations including the above topics are frowned up on in ubuntu channels because of the way they usually end up.01:04
wobblywuPriceChild, i'm quite aware of that01:05
wobblywuPriceChild, all I did was point out Donald Duck once joined the nazi army in a Disney cartoon in 1941, in response to someone saying most Disney cartoons fought the nazis back then01:06
PriceChildwobblywu: But hopefully we can all move on. Its really not important is it at the end of the day?01:06
wobblywuabsolutely is not important at all :)01:06
wobblywuI wholeheartedly agree01:06
wobblywubut i'm still banned in the channel because of it01:06
wobblywuso I can't quite move on just yet ;)01:07
PriceChildwobblywu: I'm going to lift the mute. I think its best we all try to keep away from dodgy ground listed in !o4o, and of course please take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:08
wobblywuthanks for listening -- i'll be parting now, no idling and whatnot :)01:11
PriceChildHad a nice chat with Hobbsee and feel much better.01:33
PiciThats good01:34
Tm_Tfeeling better sounds nice, would like to have that too01:40
Tm_Tanyway, back to bed I guess ->01:40
_Zeus_I think there should be a command !top01:46
_Zeus_(in reference to the command top)01:47
_Zeus_!search top01:47
ubottuFound: etiquette, desktops, o4o, offtopic-#kubuntu-offtopic, laptop, #kubuntu, nickspoon-#ubuntu-offtopic, perl-#ubuntu-offtopic, ops-#xubuntu-offtopic, keyboard01:47
jrib_Zeus_: suggest something01:47
jrib!top01:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about top01:47
Pici!scope01:48
ubottuWe don't need factoids for *everything* ;)01:48
PriceChild!info top01:48
ubottuPackage top does not exist in hardy01:48
jribheh01:48
PriceChild!info top edgy01:48
ubottu'edgy' is not a valid distribution01:48
_Zeus_jrib: i think it should explain how to use the command "top" to report system usage01:48
Pici!info procps01:48
ubottuprocps (source: procps): /proc file system utilities. In component main, is required. Version 1:3.2.7-5ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 221 kB, installed size 600 kB01:48
jribtop wouldn't be bad with mention of System Monitor for the gui01:48
_Zeus_right01:48
PiciI just think we shouldnt make factoids for every command :)01:48
_Zeus_and i think that's pretty important :P01:49
Flannel_Zeus_: You're welcome to suggest things.  /msg ubottu foo is bar01:50
_Zeus_huh?01:50
ubottuIn ubottu, _Zeus_ said: foo is bar01:50
Piciread the wiki page in the usage factoid01:50
_Zeus_i don't get it01:50
Pici!usage01:50
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:50
_Zeus_oh01:50
_Zeus_so i can just add one?01:51
PiciYou can suggest one.01:52
jdongit's like wikipedia but not as fun when it's 3AM with friends after too many whiskey shots.01:53
_Zeus_Top is a program used to monitor usage of system resources.  To use, type "top" at a terminal.  Alternatively, you can use a graphical version of top through System > Administration > System Monitor, and click on the tab marked Processes.01:54
_Zeus_how's that sound?01:54
_Zeus_anyone?01:56
ubottuIn ubottu, _Zeus_ said: !top is Top is a program used to monitor usage of system resources.  To use, type "top" at a terminal.  Alternatively, you can use a graphical version of top through System > Administration > System Monitor, and click on the tab marked Processes.01:57
Jack_Sparrow_Zeus_ New ops' ?02:16
Jack_SparrowWelcome...02:16
PiciJack_Sparrow: ?02:16
_Zeus_what?02:16
Jack_SparrowI had not seen you here before, are you new to ub ops02:16
PiciNo02:16
_Zeus_no...02:16
Pici!idle02:16
ubottuPlease keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.02:16
_Zeus_i thought i was supposed to wait for a reply to my ubottu request02:17
_Zeus_am i not?02:17
Jack_Sparrowah.. got it02:17
_Zeus_i can leave if i'm not supposed to02:17
Jack_Sparrow_Zeus_ people will review it..  keep or kill it.02:17
Jack_SparrowBest not to idle02:17
_Zeus_the buy you banned is talking to me privately02:18
_Zeus_:P02:18
_Zeus_bye02:18
Jack_Sparrownp take care02:18
elkbuntu_Zeus_, who is?02:18
Pici...02:18
* Pici sighs02:18
Flannelwobblywu perhaps02:18
Picino02:18
Flannelthe guy, not the buy02:18
Picibender18302:18
Jack_SparrowSille me.. I ass-u-me-d   02:18
Jack_SparrowEnjoy your weekend all..02:19
elkbuntuconfirming it's bender02:19
Jack_Sparrowyes, bender02:20
PiciDepending on how _Zeus_ acts during the next issue, I think it may be wise to talk to him about backseat opping.  02:21
jribwhat happened last time Pici?  (timestamp will do)02:22
Picijrib: around 8 minutes ago in #u02:23
PiciOr maybe I'm just overreacting, sometimes I forget that they don't know when I'm watching.02:24
FlannelPici: The intent is fine, although his particular implmentation could use some polish in particular.02:32
PiciFlannel: Thanks for the second opinion :)02:32
FlannelPici: and yeah, that happens a lot (which is a good thing, self policing community, etc), you're just sitting on the enter key and they don't know it.02:33
jriboh, I got a free hallmark ecard from mom_ in a pm now, yay!02:39
* Flannel wishes his mom_ loved him...02:40
elkbuntuheh02:47
Flannelsorry Pici 03:28
Pici:(03:28
* Pici sighs07:14
FlannelHeh07:17
FlannelPici: We've actually had a pretty good group of non-op people who are active in the reclaiming of -ot07:18
PiciFlannel: They don't seem to be active now :(07:19
FlannelPici: They are.  There's only a few trouble makers still being dumb about it.  Of course, some of them are asleep right now.  But really, its only a few people who cause the issues, some others go along with it (but wouldn't cause problems in a vacuum).  It is a lot better now than it was, even a month ago.07:20
PiciFlannel: Oh, I agree.  I like it when I go to tell someone to stop doing something and a regular has already told them to stop. 07:21
PiciI think I'm going to see if I can leave work now... been awake for too many hourse07:25
Picihours too 07:26
jpds@login08:43
ubottuThe operation succeeded.08:43
jpds!ubuntuemail is <reply>An @ubuntu.com email alias is a privilege that is granted to all Ubuntu members. Please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail and !member.08:47
ubottuI'll remember that, jpds08:47
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ompaulbazhang, heh you were well faster than me there :)09:01
bazhangompaul, too fast? thought that was fairly egregious09:01
bazhangespecially as it was just a !away09:02
ompaulyeap09:02
ompaul!guidelines09:03
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:03
ompaul!coc09:03
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:03
bazhangwonder what the response to a !ot would have been09:03
ompaulthe same I guess09:04
bazhangprobably09:04
ompaulwell he is in pm now09:04
bazhangis federerroger for real?09:04
ompauland you know what I pasted into a single line09:04
ompaulbazhang, read #u and you will see what I think 09:05
bazhangompaul, he was asking about 128gb usb stick etc09:05
ompauland now telnet09:06
bazhangyes09:06
ompaulbazhang, note how it shutup when given a direct question 09:20
ompaulbazhang, i am off for a bit09:26
bazhangright; see you later ompaul 09:29
ompaulbazhang, you can guess that is slightly hostile but whatever09:50
bazhangompaul, four monitors? he is really stretching it 09:50
ompaulbazhang, ask him for a photo of his actual setup ;-) 09:51
bazhanghehe09:51
elkbuntuso a classic troll for a change?10:01
ompaulelkbuntu, yeah it has been a long time :)10:02
elkbuntuindeed10:02
elkbuntui note the complete absence of expletitives. a rare characteristic of trolls these days10:02
elkbuntuunless i overlooked a line10:03
ompaulelkbuntu, yeap10:04
ompaulelkbuntu, what did you get up to yesterday?10:04
elkbuntuompaul, just lurked at home. the sydney sfd fell through, but sydney uni has something next fri which makes it not a complete waste10:05
ompaulok10:05
ompaulwe had talks for the day and a few stands10:05
ompaullots of this is how FLOSS works10:05
ompaulmostly from the gnu not bsd perspective10:06
elkbuntuhmm, that federer dude has been lurking since the 7th10:07
ompaulany contribs 10:08
ompaulor always with the hard questions?10:08
elkbuntunothing until tonight10:09
elkbuntujust a few joins10:09
elkbuntuSep 07 23:17:48 *       FedererRoger (n=steelgun@89.250.2.99) has joined #ubuntu10:09
elkbuntuSep 08 00:02:29 *       FedererRoger (n=steelgun@89.250.2.99) has left #ubuntu10:09
elkbuntuSep 21 17:11:49 *       FedererRoger (n=steelgun@89.250.2.99) has joined #ubuntu10:09
ompaulyah10:10
elkbuntuso, good possibility of static ip. lets see who else he is10:10
elkbuntubeen around since aug 10. first as robinparker then as php6th (booted by flannel on aug 17 and bazhang aug 24)10:12
elkbuntuhe seems to not intermingle his nicks, he takes them in blocks10:13
elkbuntualways the same ident too10:13
ompaulelkbuntu, note the pm10:16
elkbuntuyep.10:16
ompaulalso that nick is a tennis player the first one was a body builder :)10:17
* elkbuntu sighs about eth0110:32
jussi01elkbuntu: we all sigh at eth0110:35
* Seeker` especiall10:38
Seeker`y10:38
elkbuntucharming... 'because you dont kick me out, i get to say what i want'10:39
elkbuntuaka as 'you actually want it because you dont fight back hard enough'10:39
ompaulelkbuntu, where was that?10:41
elkbuntuompaul, after your gentoo remark10:41
ompaulohh missed that10:41
elkbuntuit's vague at best10:42
elkbuntubut it's what he's implying10:42
ompauljrib, pointed them to #ubuntu-fr in pm15:06
jribompaul: k15:07
Tm_T1704.25 -!- dehm [i=dehm@pool-71-178-177-106.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-offtopic15:07
Tm_T1704.25 -!- dehm is "mount,fsck,yes,fsck,fsck,umount,sleep"15:07
ompaulhowever I think they are ot for there ....15:07
Tm_Tprolly that realname isn't very smart in ubuntu channels15:07
ompaulmore than likely correct15:08
ompaulTm_T, forward them to here perhaps?15:11
Tm_TI will15:12
ompauldid your client hand you the real name on join?15:12
Tm_Tyes15:12
* ompaul must actually switching to console15:13
* ompaul must actually consider switching to console15:13
ompaulSWAT, ping15:13
Tm_Tirssi <315:13
ompaulhehe15:15
ompaulI remember being useful with a thing called ircII15:15
ompaulii for those who wonder15:15
ompauland then I took up with sirc ;-) 15:15
ompaulback then someone made a thing called comic chat and it polluted the irc space15:16
Tm_Tompaul: Microsoft15:16
ompaulTm_T, I was trying to infer not actually admit :)15:16
Tm_Thaha15:17
ompaulTm_T, the reason they never did manage to take over the world was that the IRC community stood steadfast against them :)15:17
ompaulTm_T, in my mind ;-)15:17
* ompaul gets more deluded at the day goes on 15:17
ompaulby tonight in my mind we will have won15:18
jussi01meh! console based clients...15:29
* ompaul goes to a very small persons birthday 15:30
ompaulparty15:30
ompaulage 3 and too smart!15:30
Nafalloompaul: don't drink all the beer :-)15:30
ompaulNafallo, I can't, so it matters not, no vodka there :)15:30
Nafallolol15:30
Nafallocan't drink beer, only vodka? :-P15:31
Tm_Tkids...15:31
ompaulTm_T, arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr15:33
ompaulNafallo, shutup or I will shave your chin ;-)15:33
NafalloNO WAY! :-)15:33
Nafalloso /that's/ why we learn to keep our heads out of the way at Muay Thai ;-)15:34
ompaulahh15:35
ompaulnow I has the sekrit15:35
Tm_Tglad that my incoming wedding isn't including alcohol, everyone can have that by themself in their own time15:36
ompaul:)15:38
PriceChild"when you run sudo with a pipe, and another sudo, like in"16:01
PriceChild"sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade"16:01
PriceChild"it won't 'work', but when you do them individually, they work fine.16:01
PriceChild"So I think it's a bug in sudo. (For intrepid)"16:01
jdonglol I like that.17:40
* Pici marks PriceChild as invalid (in intrepid)17:42
PriceChildI always thought that people shouldn't PM ops for support... but maybe there is the reason why.17:42
jussi01rofl17:44
DarkHello. I need some help, when i tried to join #ubuntu i got banned straight off and can't login now why is this?19:03
Dark...19:06
jussi01Dark: 1 moment please19:06
Jack_SparrowDark are you getting a message like read topic?19:08
jussi01Dark: can you tell me a little more about what happened? Do you know why you were banned?19:09
Jack_Sparrowjussi01 does @btlogin still work for you19:11
jussi01Jack_Sparrow: yes19:11
Jack_Sparrowor am I doing it wrong..19:11
jussi01Jack_Sparrow: try @login first...19:11
Jack_Sparrow@login19:11
ubottuThe operation succeeded.19:11
Jack_Sparrowk19:11
Jack_Sparrow@btlogin19:11
Pici@login19:11
ubottuThe operation succeeded.19:11
Jack_Sparrowthanks Pici19:12
Darkim getting disconnected19:13
naliothDark: read the topic in the channel you were forwarded to, please19:13
Darksorry i have no idea whats going on19:14
DarkWhich channel?19:14
Jack_SparrowDark when was the last time you were able to join Ubuntu19:14
Darknever19:15
Darkthats the thing19:15
Jack_Sparrowk19:15
Darki just tried to join19:15
Darkand got banned19:15
Jack_SparrowConor has a history here19:15
* Myrtti peeks in19:16
Jack_SparrowHOwdy Myrtti 19:16
* Dave2 yells BOO.19:16
* Myrtti starts to cry19:16
* Dave2 feels bad :(19:16
* Dave2 hides off back to his cooking19:16
Jack_SparrowWant some cnady little girl.. were sorry19:16
Jack_SparrowA lttle early for Halloween19:17
* Myrtti blows her nose to Dave2s shirt hem19:17
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:18
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:18
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:18
Myrttithe topic at -read-topic needs to be updated19:24
Myrttisince all the bots are in place19:24
* Myrtti pokes PriceChild 19:24
SWATompaul: pong19:52
ompaulSWAT, ahhh I would have left you a VM if your phone had done taken a message Friday19:52
SWATompaul: I don't have voicemail, I hate that thing. If it's important people call me back or send me an SMS. Why, what's up?19:53
ompaulahh I will pm19:54
Flannelor bother you on IRC!19:54
ompaulFlannel, I did try that it failed until now :)19:54
Flannelompaul: you need to learn how to be a better bother, it seems.19:54
* Flannel was sure there was something witty that could've come out of that, but couldn't find it.19:57
Myrttistupid emacs.19:57
FlannelMyrtti: vim calls to you.19:58
Myrttishut up.19:58
ompaulMyrtti, emacs is what emacs does19:59
naliothMyrtti: did you get -read-topic sorted?20:04
Myrttiyup, I think so20:05
Myrttimeh.20:10
ompaul!test20:15
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.20:15
Piciompaul: jrib beat you to it in #u20:15
ompaulahh20:16
jribtoo slow!20:16
ompauljrib, I think that is a given  at this stage20:17
Myrttisilly chanserv20:21
Myrttioohhhh!20:22
Myrttinow it works20:22
ompaulthansen|laptop, how can we help you20:44
thansen|laptopI was banned and would like to get back in20:44
thansen|laptophad flaky internet for a few days due to a move20:45
Myrttiwhat was your nickname then?20:45
thansen|laptopso my client kept connecting/disconecting20:45
thansen|laptopsame as it is now20:45
ompaulMyrtti, jusdt a sec20:45
ompaul #ubuntu thansen|laptop!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic FloodBot3 20:45
nalioththat's not a flaky connection :(20:46
thansen|laptopompaul: I don't know what you mean by that20:46
Myrttithansen|laptop: oddly you are not on the victims list20:46
Myrttibut, hold on20:46
Myrttithansen|laptop: try the test now20:47
ompaulthansen|laptop, go to #ubuntu-read-topic20:47
Myrttihe is there20:47
thansen|laptopompaul: I have20:47
thansen|laptopthat's where I got banned to after my connection issues :(20:48
Myrttithere you go20:48
ompaulehh we are telling you to start again20:48
thansen|laptopI'm in20:48
thansen|laptopthanks ya'll :)20:48
Myrttiso how have things been?21:53
ubottuIn ubottu, MTecknology said: legal is Some things are not legal. If you continue discussing illegal activity in this channel, you won't be here long.22:04
jribJack_Sparrow: might be a good idea to remove +d k22:13
Jack_Sparrownp..  can you give me the command so I cna fix without looking it up22:13
Jack_SparrowDarn L22:14
Jack_Sparrowjrib I spoke with PriceChild yesterday on reading up on some of these22:15
jribJack_Sparrow: /mode #ubuntu -d k       would be my guess22:15
Jack_Sparrowjrib what is -d and why would a L set it?22:19
Jack_SparrowI am reading chanserv help atm22:20
jribJack_Sparrow: +d is realname afaik22:20
ompaulehh 22:21
Jack_SparrowHow ya doing onp22:23
Jack_Sparrowompaul 22:23
ompaulJack_Sparrow, hi22:24
ompauldoing ok22:24
FlannelWhat on earth22:25
ubottuActionParsnip called the ops in #ubuntu ()22:27
ompaulwe could do with a hand in #ubuntu22:28
FlannelI think its under control?22:29
ompaulFlannel, a couple of more eyes might not go astray22:30
Jack_SparrowI was just stopping in, I can watch for a bit22:30
ompaulnumbers are growing fast22:32
ompaulany staff watching please take a look at #ubuntu does not feel right22:32
Flanneleh?22:34
ompaulFlannel, joins seem too many / time22:35
FlannelNah22:35
Flannelthats normal22:35
tomawdoes anyone here know what BOTSSL (a nick) is?22:55
ompaultomaw, no and I would suggest given the /whois info it is an unregistered bot22:59
tomawit's probably confused by a channel forward23:00
ompaulok I am koed23:01
ompaulI can't do any more later all23:01
Myrtti!test23:03
Myrttiuhoh23:04
FlannelJack_Sparrow: pff isn't swearing23:20
Jack_SparrowI thought it was. sorry23:20
Jack_SparrowWhat does it mean23:20
Flannelits... like sigh or pft, I imagine.23:20
FlannelI gues... it *could* be swearing, but I've never seen it before.23:20
Jack_SparrowI was told it was quite rude23:21
Jack_Sparrownp  lets ask23:21
FlannelJack_Sparrow: yeah, the internet doesn't think its anything, so... I can't imagine itis.23:23
FlannelIf anyone would have it, I would imagine urban dictionary would23:23
Jack_SparrowWho killed the bot?23:25
Flannelpeer did!  I hate that guy.23:27
Flanneljussi01: ping23:35
Myrtti2008-09-22 01:36:3723:36
Jack_Sparrow@login23:40
FlannelThat wont work sans ubottu either23:40
Jack_SparrowMyrtti Do you have a link for bantracker (pm)23:40
Jack_SparrowI needed to comment a ban23:40
Jack_Sparrowkalle123   n=ubuntu@c83-251-183-150.bredband.comhem.se            http://paste.ubuntu.com/49092/23:41
Myrttiwon't work without the bot23:41
Jack_Sparrowk23:41
Myrttiif the bot is down, the whole server is down23:41
Myrttioddly, jussi01s webpages work23:42
Myrttibut no, I don't have a link.23:42
Jack_SparrowDarn23:42
FlannelJack_Sparrow: If you have any old links in your web history, they ought to work23:43
Jack_SparrowFlannel It purges everything every time I open FF23:43
Jack_Sparrownot a big deal, I can do it later23:43
FlannelJack_Sparrow: how about IRC logs with ubottu?23:43
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