[00:10] <ompaul> as said in channel at that time <elky> @mark wobblywu is currently muted in -ot for failing to heed a request to cease a topic, then for arguing, and then for mocking. the topic has little to do with it. he is to apologise before the mute is lifted.
[00:11]  * ompaul suggests strongly to wobblywu to actually talk with jrib or do as the topic for the channel points out and not idle
[00:30] <wobblywu> sorry about that, my mind easily wanders at these hours
[00:30] <wobblywu> I did cease the topic (although I did not break any rules when discussing said topic), I did not argue, nor did I mock
[00:31] <wobblywu> and I find the idea of having to apologize highly unusual, and nothing more than an attempt to humiliate me
[00:32] <wobblywu> I believe punishment should be relative to the severity of the 'crime', and I doubt many ops would disagree with that
[00:33] <wobblywu> I was initially warned for "glorifying the nazis", which I did not even in the slightest bit do
[00:33] <wobblywu> I tried to explain that which was then taken as "arguing"
[00:33] <wobblywu> and eventually decided to give up and tried to get everything on a positive note again (by pointing out it was international freedom day yesterday, which it was) -- which was somehow taken as "mocking"
[00:34] <wobblywu> and for it I was indefinitely banned, apparently
[00:41] <wobblywu> jrib, see above, please :)
[00:47] <PriceChild> elkbuntu: around? elky_work 
[01:03] <PriceChild> !o4o
[01:04] <PriceChild> wobblywu: Conversations including the above topics are frowned up on in ubuntu channels because of the way they usually end up.
[01:05] <wobblywu> PriceChild, i'm quite aware of that
[01:06] <wobblywu> PriceChild, all I did was point out Donald Duck once joined the nazi army in a Disney cartoon in 1941, in response to someone saying most Disney cartoons fought the nazis back then
[01:06] <PriceChild> wobblywu: But hopefully we can all move on. Its really not important is it at the end of the day?
[01:06] <wobblywu> absolutely is not important at all :)
[01:06] <wobblywu> I wholeheartedly agree
[01:06] <wobblywu> but i'm still banned in the channel because of it
[01:07] <wobblywu> so I can't quite move on just yet ;)
[01:08] <PriceChild> wobblywu: I'm going to lift the mute. I think its best we all try to keep away from dodgy ground listed in !o4o, and of course please take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:11] <wobblywu> thanks for listening -- i'll be parting now, no idling and whatnot :)
[01:33] <PriceChild> Had a nice chat with Hobbsee and feel much better.
[01:34] <Pici> Thats good
[01:40] <Tm_T> feeling better sounds nice, would like to have that too
[01:40] <Tm_T> anyway, back to bed I guess ->
[01:46] <_Zeus_> I think there should be a command !top
[01:47] <_Zeus_> (in reference to the command top)
[01:47] <_Zeus_> !search top
[01:47] <jrib> _Zeus_: suggest something
[01:47] <jrib> !top
[01:48] <Pici> !scope
[01:48] <PriceChild> !info top
[01:48] <jrib> heh
[01:48] <PriceChild> !info top edgy
[01:48] <_Zeus_> jrib: i think it should explain how to use the command "top" to report system usage
[01:48] <Pici> !info procps
[01:48] <jrib> top wouldn't be bad with mention of System Monitor for the gui
[01:48] <_Zeus_> right
[01:48] <Pici> I just think we shouldnt make factoids for every command :)
[01:49] <_Zeus_> and i think that's pretty important :P
[01:50] <Flannel> _Zeus_: You're welcome to suggest things.  /msg ubottu foo is bar
[01:50] <_Zeus_> huh?
[01:50] <Pici> read the wiki page in the usage factoid
[01:50] <_Zeus_> i don't get it
[01:50] <Pici> !usage
[01:50] <_Zeus_> oh
[01:51] <_Zeus_> so i can just add one?
[01:52] <Pici> You can suggest one.
[01:53] <jdong> it's like wikipedia but not as fun when it's 3AM with friends after too many whiskey shots.
[01:54] <_Zeus_> Top is a program used to monitor usage of system resources.  To use, type "top" at a terminal.  Alternatively, you can use a graphical version of top through System > Administration > System Monitor, and click on the tab marked Processes.
[01:54] <_Zeus_> how's that sound?
[01:56] <_Zeus_> anyone?
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> _Zeus_ New ops' ?
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Welcome...
[02:16] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[02:16] <_Zeus_> what?
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> I had not seen you here before, are you new to ub ops
[02:16] <Pici> No
[02:16] <_Zeus_> no...
[02:16] <Pici> !idle
[02:17] <_Zeus_> i thought i was supposed to wait for a reply to my ubottu request
[02:17] <_Zeus_> am i not?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ah.. got it
[02:17] <_Zeus_> i can leave if i'm not supposed to
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> _Zeus_ people will review it..  keep or kill it.
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Best not to idle
[02:18] <_Zeus_> the buy you banned is talking to me privately
[02:18] <_Zeus_> :P
[02:18] <_Zeus_> bye
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np take care
[02:18] <elkbuntu> _Zeus_, who is?
[02:18] <Pici> ...
[02:18]  * Pici sighs
[02:18] <Flannel> wobblywu perhaps
[02:18] <Pici> no
[02:18] <Flannel> the guy, not the buy
[02:18] <Pici> bender183
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Sille me.. I ass-u-me-d   
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Enjoy your weekend all..
[02:19] <elkbuntu> confirming it's bender
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> yes, bender
[02:21] <Pici> Depending on how _Zeus_ acts during the next issue, I think it may be wise to talk to him about backseat opping.  
[02:22] <jrib> what happened last time Pici?  (timestamp will do)
[02:23] <Pici> jrib: around 8 minutes ago in #u
[02:24] <Pici> Or maybe I'm just overreacting, sometimes I forget that they don't know when I'm watching.
[02:32] <Flannel> Pici: The intent is fine, although his particular implmentation could use some polish in particular.
[02:32] <Pici> Flannel: Thanks for the second opinion :)
[02:33] <Flannel> Pici: and yeah, that happens a lot (which is a good thing, self policing community, etc), you're just sitting on the enter key and they don't know it.
[02:39] <jrib> oh, I got a free hallmark ecard from mom_ in a pm now, yay!
[02:40]  * Flannel wishes his mom_ loved him...
[02:47] <elkbuntu> heh
[03:28] <Flannel> sorry Pici 
[03:28] <Pici> :(
[07:14]  * Pici sighs
[07:17] <Flannel> Heh
[07:18] <Flannel> Pici: We've actually had a pretty good group of non-op people who are active in the reclaiming of -ot
[07:19] <Pici> Flannel: They don't seem to be active now :(
[07:20] <Flannel> Pici: They are.  There's only a few trouble makers still being dumb about it.  Of course, some of them are asleep right now.  But really, its only a few people who cause the issues, some others go along with it (but wouldn't cause problems in a vacuum).  It is a lot better now than it was, even a month ago.
[07:21] <Pici> Flannel: Oh, I agree.  I like it when I go to tell someone to stop doing something and a regular has already told them to stop. 
[07:25] <Pici> I think I'm going to see if I can leave work now... been awake for too many hourse
[07:26] <Pici> hours too 
[08:43] <jpds> @login
[08:47] <jpds> !ubuntuemail is <reply>An @ubuntu.com email alias is a privilege that is granted to all Ubuntu members. Please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail and !member.
[09:01] <ompaul> bazhang, heh you were well faster than me there :)
[09:01] <bazhang> ompaul, too fast? thought that was fairly egregious
[09:02] <bazhang> especially as it was just a !away
[09:02] <ompaul> yeap
[09:03] <ompaul> !guidelines
[09:03] <ompaul> !coc
[09:03] <bazhang> wonder what the response to a !ot would have been
[09:04] <ompaul> the same I guess
[09:04] <bazhang> probably
[09:04] <ompaul> well he is in pm now
[09:04] <bazhang> is federerroger for real?
[09:04] <ompaul> and you know what I pasted into a single line
[09:05] <ompaul> bazhang, read #u and you will see what I think 
[09:05] <bazhang> ompaul, he was asking about 128gb usb stick etc
[09:06] <ompaul> and now telnet
[09:06] <bazhang> yes
[09:20] <ompaul> bazhang, note how it shutup when given a direct question 
[09:26] <ompaul> bazhang, i am off for a bit
[09:29] <bazhang> right; see you later ompaul 
[09:50] <ompaul> bazhang, you can guess that is slightly hostile but whatever
[09:50] <bazhang> ompaul, four monitors? he is really stretching it 
[09:51] <ompaul> bazhang, ask him for a photo of his actual setup ;-) 
[09:51] <bazhang> hehe
[10:01] <elkbuntu> so a classic troll for a change?
[10:02] <ompaul> elkbuntu, yeah it has been a long time :)
[10:02] <elkbuntu> indeed
[10:02] <elkbuntu> i note the complete absence of expletitives. a rare characteristic of trolls these days
[10:03] <elkbuntu> unless i overlooked a line
[10:04] <ompaul> elkbuntu, yeap
[10:04] <ompaul> elkbuntu, what did you get up to yesterday?
[10:05] <elkbuntu> ompaul, just lurked at home. the sydney sfd fell through, but sydney uni has something next fri which makes it not a complete waste
[10:05] <ompaul> ok
[10:05] <ompaul> we had talks for the day and a few stands
[10:05] <ompaul> lots of this is how FLOSS works
[10:06] <ompaul> mostly from the gnu not bsd perspective
[10:07] <elkbuntu> hmm, that federer dude has been lurking since the 7th
[10:08] <ompaul> any contribs 
[10:08] <ompaul> or always with the hard questions?
[10:09] <elkbuntu> nothing until tonight
[10:09] <elkbuntu> just a few joins
[10:09] <elkbuntu> Sep 07 23:17:48 *       FedererRoger (n=steelgun@89.250.2.99) has joined #ubuntu
[10:09] <elkbuntu> Sep 08 00:02:29 *       FedererRoger (n=steelgun@89.250.2.99) has left #ubuntu
[10:09] <elkbuntu> Sep 21 17:11:49 *       FedererRoger (n=steelgun@89.250.2.99) has joined #ubuntu
[10:10] <ompaul> yah
[10:10] <elkbuntu> so, good possibility of static ip. lets see who else he is
[10:12] <elkbuntu> been around since aug 10. first as robinparker then as php6th (booted by flannel on aug 17 and bazhang aug 24)
[10:13] <elkbuntu> he seems to not intermingle his nicks, he takes them in blocks
[10:13] <elkbuntu> always the same ident too
[10:16] <ompaul> elkbuntu, note the pm
[10:16] <elkbuntu> yep.
[10:17] <ompaul> also that nick is a tennis player the first one was a body builder :)
[10:32]  * elkbuntu sighs about eth01
[10:35] <jussi01> elkbuntu: we all sigh at eth01
[10:38]  * Seeker` especiall
[10:38] <Seeker`> y
[10:39] <elkbuntu> charming... 'because you dont kick me out, i get to say what i want'
[10:39] <elkbuntu> aka as 'you actually want it because you dont fight back hard enough'
[10:41] <ompaul> elkbuntu, where was that?
[10:41] <elkbuntu> ompaul, after your gentoo remark
[10:41] <ompaul> ohh missed that
[10:42] <elkbuntu> it's vague at best
[10:42] <elkbuntu> but it's what he's implying
[15:06] <ompaul> jrib, pointed them to #ubuntu-fr in pm
[15:07] <jrib> ompaul: k
[15:07] <Tm_T> 1704.25 -!- dehm [i=dehm@pool-71-178-177-106.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:07] <Tm_T> 1704.25 -!- dehm is "mount,fsck,yes,fsck,fsck,umount,sleep"
[15:07] <ompaul> however I think they are ot for there ....
[15:07] <Tm_T> prolly that realname isn't very smart in ubuntu channels
[15:08] <ompaul> more than likely correct
[15:11] <ompaul> Tm_T, forward them to here perhaps?
[15:12] <Tm_T> I will
[15:12] <ompaul> did your client hand you the real name on join?
[15:12] <Tm_T> yes
[15:13]  * ompaul must actually switching to console
[15:13]  * ompaul must actually consider switching to console
[15:13] <ompaul> SWAT, ping
[15:13] <Tm_T> irssi <3
[15:15] <ompaul> hehe
[15:15] <ompaul> I remember being useful with a thing called ircII
[15:15] <ompaul> ii for those who wonder
[15:15] <ompaul> and then I took up with sirc ;-) 
[15:16] <ompaul> back then someone made a thing called comic chat and it polluted the irc space
[15:16] <Tm_T> ompaul: Microsoft
[15:16] <ompaul> Tm_T, I was trying to infer not actually admit :)
[15:17] <Tm_T> haha
[15:17] <ompaul> Tm_T, the reason they never did manage to take over the world was that the IRC community stood steadfast against them :)
[15:17] <ompaul> Tm_T, in my mind ;-)
[15:17]  * ompaul gets more deluded at the day goes on 
[15:18] <ompaul> by tonight in my mind we will have won
[15:29] <jussi01> meh! console based clients...
[15:30]  * ompaul goes to a very small persons birthday 
[15:30] <ompaul> party
[15:30] <ompaul> age 3 and too smart!
[15:30] <Nafallo> ompaul: don't drink all the beer :-)
[15:30] <ompaul> Nafallo, I can't, so it matters not, no vodka there :)
[15:30] <Nafallo> lol
[15:31] <Nafallo> can't drink beer, only vodka? :-P
[15:31] <Tm_T> kids...
[15:33] <ompaul> Tm_T, arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[15:33] <ompaul> Nafallo, shutup or I will shave your chin ;-)
[15:33] <Nafallo> NO WAY! :-)
[15:34] <Nafallo> so /that's/ why we learn to keep our heads out of the way at Muay Thai ;-)
[15:35] <ompaul> ahh
[15:35] <ompaul> now I has the sekrit
[15:36] <Tm_T> glad that my incoming wedding isn't including alcohol, everyone can have that by themself in their own time
[15:38] <ompaul> :)
[16:01] <PriceChild> "when you run sudo with a pipe, and another sudo, like in"
[16:01] <PriceChild> "sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade"
[16:01] <PriceChild> "it won't 'work', but when you do them individually, they work fine.
[16:01] <PriceChild> "So I think it's a bug in sudo. (For intrepid)"
[17:40] <jdong> lol I like that.
[17:42]  * Pici marks PriceChild as invalid (in intrepid)
[17:42] <PriceChild> I always thought that people shouldn't PM ops for support... but maybe there is the reason why.
[17:44] <jussi01> rofl
[19:03] <Dark> Hello. I need some help, when i tried to join #ubuntu i got banned straight off and can't login now why is this?
[19:06] <Dark> ...
[19:06] <jussi01> Dark: 1 moment please
[19:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Dark are you getting a message like read topic?
[19:09] <jussi01> Dark: can you tell me a little more about what happened? Do you know why you were banned?
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jussi01 does @btlogin still work for you
[19:11] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> or am I doing it wrong..
[19:11] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: try @login first...
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[19:11] <Pici> @login
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks Pici
[19:13] <Dark> im getting disconnected
[19:13] <nalioth> Dark: read the topic in the channel you were forwarded to, please
[19:14] <Dark> sorry i have no idea whats going on
[19:14] <Dark> Which channel?
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Dark when was the last time you were able to join Ubuntu
[19:15] <Dark> never
[19:15] <Dark> thats the thing
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[19:15] <Dark> i just tried to join
[19:15] <Dark> and got banned
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Conor has a history here
[19:16]  * Myrtti peeks in
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> HOwdy Myrtti 
[19:16]  * Dave2 yells BOO.
[19:16]  * Myrtti starts to cry
[19:16]  * Dave2 feels bad :(
[19:16]  * Dave2 hides off back to his cooking
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Want some cnady little girl.. were sorry
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> A lttle early for Halloween
[19:17]  * Myrtti blows her nose to Dave2s shirt hem
[19:24] <Myrtti> the topic at -read-topic needs to be updated
[19:24] <Myrtti> since all the bots are in place
[19:24]  * Myrtti pokes PriceChild 
[19:52] <SWAT> ompaul: pong
[19:52] <ompaul> SWAT, ahhh I would have left you a VM if your phone had done taken a message Friday
[19:53] <SWAT> ompaul: I don't have voicemail, I hate that thing. If it's important people call me back or send me an SMS. Why, what's up?
[19:54] <ompaul> ahh I will pm
[19:54] <Flannel> or bother you on IRC!
[19:54] <ompaul> Flannel, I did try that it failed until now :)
[19:54] <Flannel> ompaul: you need to learn how to be a better bother, it seems.
[19:57]  * Flannel was sure there was something witty that could've come out of that, but couldn't find it.
[19:57] <Myrtti> stupid emacs.
[19:58] <Flannel> Myrtti: vim calls to you.
[19:58] <Myrtti> shut up.
[19:59] <ompaul> Myrtti, emacs is what emacs does
[20:04] <nalioth> Myrtti: did you get -read-topic sorted?
[20:05] <Myrtti> yup, I think so
[20:10] <Myrtti> meh.
[20:15] <ompaul> !test
[20:15] <Pici> ompaul: jrib beat you to it in #u
[20:16] <ompaul> ahh
[20:16] <jrib> too slow!
[20:17] <ompaul> jrib, I think that is a given  at this stage
[20:21] <Myrtti> silly chanserv
[20:22] <Myrtti> oohhhh!
[20:22] <Myrtti> now it works
[20:44] <ompaul> thansen|laptop, how can we help you
[20:44] <thansen|laptop> I was banned and would like to get back in
[20:45] <thansen|laptop> had flaky internet for a few days due to a move
[20:45] <Myrtti> what was your nickname then?
[20:45] <thansen|laptop> so my client kept connecting/disconecting
[20:45] <thansen|laptop> same as it is now
[20:45] <ompaul> Myrtti, jusdt a sec
[20:45] <ompaul>  #ubuntu 	thansen|laptop!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic 	FloodBot3 
[20:46] <nalioth> that's not a flaky connection :(
[20:46] <thansen|laptop> ompaul: I don't know what you mean by that
[20:46] <Myrtti> thansen|laptop: oddly you are not on the victims list
[20:46] <Myrtti> but, hold on
[20:47] <Myrtti> thansen|laptop: try the test now
[20:47] <ompaul> thansen|laptop, go to #ubuntu-read-topic
[20:47] <Myrtti> he is there
[20:47] <thansen|laptop> ompaul: I have
[20:48] <thansen|laptop> that's where I got banned to after my connection issues :(
[20:48] <Myrtti> there you go
[20:48] <ompaul> ehh we are telling you to start again
[20:48] <thansen|laptop> I'm in
[20:48] <thansen|laptop> thanks ya'll :)
[21:53] <Myrtti> so how have things been?
[22:13] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: might be a good idea to remove +d k
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> np..  can you give me the command so I cna fix without looking it up
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Darn L
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib I spoke with PriceChild yesterday on reading up on some of these
[22:15] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: /mode #ubuntu -d k       would be my guess
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib what is -d and why would a L set it?
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> I am reading chanserv help atm
[22:20] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: +d is realname afaik
[22:21] <ompaul> ehh 
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> How ya doing onp
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul 
[22:24] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, hi
[22:24] <ompaul> doing ok
[22:25] <Flannel> What on earth
[22:28] <ompaul> we could do with a hand in #ubuntu
[22:29] <Flannel> I think its under control?
[22:30] <ompaul> Flannel, a couple of more eyes might not go astray
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> I was just stopping in, I can watch for a bit
[22:32] <ompaul> numbers are growing fast
[22:32] <ompaul> any staff watching please take a look at #ubuntu does not feel right
[22:34] <Flannel> eh?
[22:35] <ompaul> Flannel, joins seem too many / time
[22:35] <Flannel> Nah
[22:35] <Flannel> thats normal
[22:55] <tomaw> does anyone here know what BOTSSL (a nick) is?
[22:59] <ompaul> tomaw, no and I would suggest given the /whois info it is an unregistered bot
[23:00] <tomaw> it's probably confused by a channel forward
[23:01] <ompaul> ok I am koed
[23:01] <ompaul> I can't do any more later all
[23:03] <Myrtti> !test
[23:04] <Myrtti> uhoh
[23:20] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: pff isn't swearing
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought it was. sorry
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> What does it mean
[23:20] <Flannel> its... like sigh or pft, I imagine.
[23:20] <Flannel> I gues... it *could* be swearing, but I've never seen it before.
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> I was told it was quite rude
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> np  lets ask
[23:23] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, the internet doesn't think its anything, so... I can't imagine itis.
[23:23] <Flannel> If anyone would have it, I would imagine urban dictionary would
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Who killed the bot?
[23:27] <Flannel> peer did!  I hate that guy.
[23:35] <Flannel> jussi01: ping
[23:36] <Myrtti> 2008-09-22 01:36:37
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[23:40] <Flannel> That wont work sans ubottu either
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Myrtti Do you have a link for bantracker (pm)
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> I needed to comment a ban
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kalle123   n=ubuntu@c83-251-183-150.bredband.comhem.se            http://paste.ubuntu.com/49092/
[23:41] <Myrtti> won't work without the bot
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[23:41] <Myrtti> if the bot is down, the whole server is down
[23:42] <Myrtti> oddly, jussi01s webpages work
[23:42] <Myrtti> but no, I don't have a link.
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Darn
[23:43] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: If you have any old links in your web history, they ought to work
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel It purges everything every time I open FF
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> not a big deal, I can do it later
[23:43] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: how about IRC logs with ubottu?