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charlie-tcaAnyone else having issues getting Intrepid Alpha 6 to connect using static IP addresses?00:40
Odd-rationalecharlie-tca: try #ubuntu+1 the official channel for 8.1000:41
charlie-tcaThanks :)00:41
Odd-rationalenp00:41
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nubuntuanybody know how i might get at the bios settings on this old compaq 2870b series laptop?  only four returns on a google search, none relevant02:14
favroI have to press F10 to get to the bios on an old compaq desktop02:16
charlie-tcaI have uses F10 and one uses F1102:17
Roland-hey, question: how do I set nr of workspaces? I have only 2 and I need 4 or 6 for the cube02:55
Odd-rationaleRoland-: workspaces for xfce? or for compiz?02:56
Odd-rationalethey are set up in different places...02:56
Odd-rationalefor xfce, go to Applications --> settings --> workspace settings02:56
Roland-cannot see workspace settings02:57
Genelykaplications-configuration-administ configuration02:57
Genelyktop left02:57
Roland-is something I have to install?02:57
Odd-rationalefor compiz, first be sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed, then go to Applications --> settings --> compixconfig settings manager --> Generall Options --> Desktop size. then chage the horizontal to 4, vertial to 1, and no of desktops to 1.02:58
Roland-perfect thank you02:58
Roland-still how do I use the whole cube?02:59
Roland-the down and up face is empty02:59
Odd-rationaleRoland-: you cant...02:59
Roland-and I saw some screenshots with a desk there too02:59
Odd-rationaleRoland-: you can put some cube caps though...02:59
Odd-rationalebut you can't actually use them as a desktop...03:00
Roland-that is nice I just want to replace that orange bg03:00
Roland-http://www.23hq.com/Vincentt/photo/2573228/standard can somebody please what module provides that mac_look_like down menu ?03:01
Odd-rationalei think that is awn03:02
Odd-rationale!awn03:02
ubottuAvant Window Navigator is a dock-like navigation bar for the Linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/ Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and in Universe in Hardy03:02
Roland-thank you03:03
Odd-rationalebut you could also make xfce4-panel look similar, but not as fancy... ;)03:03
Roland-that one looks fancyu tome03:03
Roland-:>03:03
Roland-where are all icon files located03:06
Roland-?03:06
charlie-tcamost of them are in /usr/share/icons03:07
Roland-awn is sure buggy03:14
Roland-hey. I am trying to make an xfce menu shortcut, what is the command line for it03:52
favrotry   xfce4-menu03:55
jika-bunmy abiword processor is crashing a lot. do you guys have any alternative to it to work as a word processor? something alternative to openoffice if possible04:51
favrojika-bun: it might be easier to fix abiword - if you start it from terminal it will show errors04:55
jika-bunok favro, i will do it to see if i can fix it. but do you have any in mind? just in case i need.04:56
favrojika-bun: use nano for that sort of thing - command line04:57
favro*I use04:57
jika-bunto write university researchs? you're a hero. :P04:58
favroI don't write uni researchs obviously :)04:58
jika-bunwell that explained :)05:01
jika-buni will try fixing it then05:01
jika-bunthank you05:01
krielIf I manually set up my wireless connection using iwconfig and dhclient; the [network manager thingy in the top right] dosen't recognize that I'm connected, and therefore blocks all of my internet-using programs [like pidgin and firefox] because it dosen't have a connection.05:14
krielSo, is there a way to either make it recognize that I did it manually; or to just turn it off and let my programs through?05:14
gaurdrocan you ping out when you do it manually?05:14
krielpinging works. But the network manager mabob still says i'm d/c05:15
gaurdrodon't blame me if it breaks something but you could try killall nm-applet05:19
krielmay brb, playing with my network connection05:20
krielalright, so that much worked..05:21
krielnow, to find where it starts nm-applet at..05:21
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djohngoGreettings ladies and gents.06:03
djohngoA slightly dim newbie here trying to figure out how to do a text-only install06:04
djohngoDo any of you have the URL that explains how to do it handy?06:04
cody-somervillesure06:19
cody-somervillehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20using%20the%20Alternate%20CD06:19
djohngocody-somerville: Than you so much! I am in your debt.06:30
cody-somervilleno problem06:31
jika-buni'm searching for a office different than openoffice to install, someone has a suggestion?06:52
TrailWhispererYou could look up gnome office. it's a collection of lighter weight offices apps (not a standalone) that are not too bad. Not sure about the gnome dependencies though.06:59
TrailWhispererhttp://live.gnome.org/GnomeOffice07:01
jika-bunTrailWhisperer, i'll take a look, thank you07:09
loswillioshi guys09:29
loswilliosI recently upgraded my fathers PC from 7.10 to 8.04 (which went really smooth btw)09:29
loswilliosbut now it asks for a password when I want to shutdown the system (from the log-out dialog)09:30
loswilliosI am in a lot of groups already (including powerdev) but it didn't help09:31
favroloswillios: a workaround is to logout and select shutdown from the options menu09:37
favroI've seen a couple of people mention having that issue but it isn't common afaik09:38
favroanother workaround would be to add the user to the sudoers file for shutdown09:39
favrothen the shutdown button should work like normal09:39
loswilliosok09:44
phlackhi, im wondering can anyone help me, im trying to change the login message when i log in with ssh09:44
phlackcan anyone tell me where that message is located?09:44
loswilliosfavro: shutdown, halt and reboot are already added with NOPASSWD09:45
favroohh09:45
loswilliosfavro: I can't logout though, cause I don't have a DM started. the system is booting straight into X09:46
loswilliosphlack: /etc/motd09:47
favroloswillios: is a paasword asked for with   sudo shutdown -h now?09:47
phlackthanks loswillios09:47
favroif not make a launcher for it09:47
loswillioshm, yeah. I wonder why09:47
loswillioslet me recheck sudoers09:48
favroI don't know where the issue stems from so am thinking about workarounds09:48
loswilliosweird. sudoers is exactly the same on my other systems where it works (no ubuntu though)09:50
loswillioschristian       ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown, /sbin/halt, /sbin/reboot09:50
favrowhat's the line in /etc/sudoers for shutdown?09:50
favrok09:50
loswillioshow to make a launcher?09:51
loswilliosah got it09:52
favroright click the panel select add and from the menu launcher09:52
loswilliosmisunderstood you. yeah, doesn't help because sudo fscks up somehow09:52
favrobut if it asks for a password a launcher won't work09:53
loswilliosweird stuff09:54
favroyes09:54
favroloswillios: what does   ls -l /etc/sudoers   return?09:59
loswilliosfavro: -r--r----- 1 root root 468 2008-09-21 10:53 /etc/sudoers10:11
favroloswillios: well that is how it should be10:12
favroI thought it might have read access borked10:12
nubuntuFor all you developer types, the title of a story in my ScienceDaily.com eletter this morning is: Easier-to-hit 'Targets' Could Help Older People Make The Most Of Computers (September 20, 2008) -- Older people could make better use of computers if icons, links and menu headings automatically grew bigger as the cursor moves towards them. ...13:44
viddnubuntu, link please?13:50
nubuntuvidd, hold on i go get it13:52
viddty'13:52
nubuntuhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080911111524.htm13:52
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Roland-hey, any ideas how can I make the jack configuration work on an sony vaio ?14:04
viddjack configuration?14:05
Roland-yes well if I plug in earphones nothing is happening14:05
vidddoes the system sound go out?14:05
Roland-yes14:06
Roland-using alsa14:06
viddok....then just unmute the headphones in the volume manager14:06
viddits called "phone"14:07
Roland-unmute headphones in volume manager14:07
Roland-I only have pcm and master volume there14:07
viddright-click the volume manager icon on your panel and choose "properties"14:08
viddwhat choices do you have listed for Devices?14:09
viddif you dont have the volume manager applet, run xfce4-mixer in terminal14:09
Roland-only master and pcm...14:10
viddplease RIGHT click and choose "Properties" ... or run  xfce4-mixer14:11
Roland-ok time for a screenshot14:12
viddwith xfce4-mixer open, what choices do you have in the drop down box "Devices"?14:12
viddRoland-, did you open xfce4-mixer?14:14
Roland-http://www.zshare.net/image/19152992ae0a4801/14:14
Roland-http://www.zshare.net/image/19153018bac1a8f3/14:15
Roland-see?14:15
viddwhat does lspci tell you that your sound card is?14:16
Roland-00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)14:19
Roland-also the sound works fine I can listen to music play movies and so on14:19
viddRoland-, yeah....you just dont have headphone capability14:20
vondererhello there. Is there anyway to disable screensaver in xubuntu? I've switched it off in the settings, but it is still shown.14:20
Roland-worked fine on windows14:21
Roland-:P14:21
vondererhello there. Is there anyway to disable screensaver in xubuntu? I've switched it off in the settings, but it is still shown.14:21
viddin the device drop-down, select #0: 82801H14:22
viddvonderer, off or gone?14:22
vonderervidd: sorry, I don't quite get the question ^^14:23
viddvonderer, do you want the screensaver uninstalled or disabled?14:24
vondererdisabled14:24
vonderervidd:14:29
viddthis a laptop or desktop?14:30
vondererdesktop14:30
vidddo you have power management set to never put the computer or display to sleep?14:31
vondererI've already killed xscreensaver, but is there a way to prevent it from being loaded?14:31
vonderervidd: yes, i have14:32
nubuntui have a problem thats driving me crazy, whenever i follow links to news stories on my panama newspaper it slows my computer down to nothing..  would it be possible for someeone to understandd why by looking at a page3?  herees one: http://prensa.com/t.asp?d=080921h152773414:32
viddvonderer, to prevent it from loading? uninstall it14:32
viddbut anyway....14:32
vidddo you have the checkboxes "Activate screensaver..." unchecked?14:33
vondererof course14:33
vondererI've done that first, but it seemed to have no effect14:33
viddand where is the idle slider @?14:33
vonderer2 hours14:34
viddhow long does it take for your screensaver to pop up?14:34
vonderermuch less, than 2 hours, maybe 10~20 minutes14:34
viddthen you have a second screen saver app installed14:35
vonderermaybe problem in GNOME services? I've installed xubuntu-desktop over my ubuntu14:35
viddmost like14:35
viddubuntu uses gnome screensave IIRC14:36
vondererstrange. when I open gnome-screensaver-preferences, I get my xfce4 screensaver setup dialogue14:36
vondererwhere screensaver is disabled and time is set to 2 hours14:37
viddand what happens when you open xsceensaver?14:37
vondererahh, here it is14:37
vidd2 screen saver apps?14:38
vondererI tried it before, but it said I'd already had it running14:38
vondererxscreensaver has other settings, and it is enabled14:38
vondererthanks ^^14:38
viddno problem14:38
vondererThere is another problem. Not long ago, I've bought a new mouse, and set it up with evdev. The problem is that when X server starts and the mouse is still, mouse becomes turned off soon after startup. But if I move it around during loading, everything's ok.14:42
vondererIs there any way to fix it?14:44
viddsure....load the mouse settings after X14:45
vondererhow can I do that?14:46
viddnot sure what evdev is, or why you need it....but X is overwritting it14:46
vondererhmm. my mouse has 5 buttons14:46
viddwhy on earth would someone need 5 mouse buttons?14:46
vondererI needed evdev to make 4th and 5th work :)14:46
viddremove the evdev, reboot, and set evdev to load in your autostarted applications14:47
viddthis way, evdev settings are loaded after x settings14:48
vondererevdev is a driver14:48
vondererSection "InputDevice"14:48
vonderer    Identifier     "Configured Mouse"14:48
vonderer    Driver         "evdev"14:48
vonderer    Option         "CorePointer"14:48
vonderer    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/event9"14:48
vondererEndSection14:48
vondererthat's from my xorg.conf14:48
viddpastebin your entire xorg.conf for me?14:49
vinnl!paste14:49
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)14:49
vondererok. sure14:49
vondererhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/48907/14:53
viddso vonderer where is the link?14:53
vidddisregard14:53
viddtry uncomenting line 6214:54
viddand do you have more then one maouse installed?14:55
vondererno, I don't14:55
vonderertried line 62, It didn't work out, so I commented it again14:56
viddthen im out of ideas14:56
vondererthanks anyway :)14:57
viddunless, perhaps you uncomment lines 47-5514:57
vondereryou mean, use usual mouse driver instead of evdev?14:57
viddno...use both14:57
vondererinteresting :) I'll try that later, thanks14:58
viddthis way you at least have 3-button if all else fails14:58
vidd=]14:58
vondererbye :)14:58
viddi still dont understand why anyone would need 5 buttons on a mouse14:59
forceshow can I install compiz in xubuntu 8.04.1?15:35
vinnlforces, just by installing it15:35
vinnlforces, if you want to make sure you're doing OK, Google a tutorial :)15:36
vinnl(Which I'm not saying because I know mine is the first hit ;-)15:36
viddvinnl, just post 'em a link! =]15:43
vinnl:P15:43
vinnlhttp://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/15:43
viddyour stuff is top notch anyway.....why leave the poor sap to chance he spells something wrong and ends up with a poor, super mispelled tut that dont work =]15:44
vinnlThanks ^.^15:44
Mannequi1hi. my computer totally freezeed yesterday. It's not the first time, but i think a few times happened while I were watching a movie using VLC16:11
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Mannequi1I had to hard reboot it, because ctrl+alt+ F1 (or any other) didn't work at all16:12
Mannequi1is there any log i should look to see if there is something logged about what happened?16:12
viddMannequi1, did you launch vlc from a terminal?16:15
Mannequi1vidd: no16:15
viddtry launching from a terminal....16:15
viddif it freezes again, ctl+c in terminal will kill it16:16
viddplus the app will display info in the terminal that launched it16:16
viddyou should be able to scroll thru the terminal output to see the error16:17
viddpersonally....i suspect a ram issue16:17
viddalso....logs are found in /var/log16:20
vidddont know what log you might want to review though16:20
jika-bundoes abiword recgonize docx documents?16:39
vinnljika-bun, not the version in Xubuntu16:40
vinnlNot sure about the newest version16:40
jika-bunhmm, ok then, for a moment i thought it was a bug here16:41
jika-bunthank you :)16:41
vinnlnp :)16:41
vinnlAh, yay16:41
vinnlThe new Abiword is in Xubuntu 8.10 :)16:41
jika-bunhmm, nice! i'll be expecting it then!16:42
vinnl > AbiWord now has good compliance with Microsoft's OOXML format but it can be improved.16:43
viddOOo beats abiword hands down every time16:43
vinnlvidd, not on speed ^.^16:43
vinnl > Currently, AbiWord has an importer, but no exporter.Currently, AbiWord has an importer, but no exporter.16:43
viddspeed isnt everything16:44
vinnlAnd integration16:44
viddif i need speed, i open mousepad16:44
vinnlSo when you're not working with complex documents, abiword rocks16:44
viddif im not working with complex documents, abiword is bloat16:45
vinnlEverybody has his own preference ;-)16:45
viddwhich is what make linux so great!16:45
vinnlI love Abiword for non-complex, non-plaintext documents, which is about all I use ;-)16:45
vinnlvidd, exactly :)16:45
viddeveryone's preferences are easily handled16:46
vinnlWell, not Linuix16:46
vinnlMore open source :)16:46
viddpoint taken16:46
viddnon-plaintext?16:46
vinnli.e. with images :)16:46
viddah....nothing i do16:47
vinnl^.^16:47
jika-bunwell, i'm using it to a university research :D16:49
jika-bunand its good enough for me, i guess16:49
* vinnl can't wait to try Abiword's new collaboration features16:50
vinnlAnyway, I'm off, bye16:51
kriel'killall nm-applet' 'iwconfig wlan0 essid myssid enc mykey ap any' 'dhclient wlan0' and I can ping out, right? But when I start up (pidgin|firefox) it dosen't think it's connected. FF is in 'offline mode' and pidgin says 'waiting for connection'17:08
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viddkriel, huh????17:09
Myrttikriel: that's quite normal because avahi can't handle commandline connection handshakes17:15
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krielMyrtti: (sorry for the lag) Okay, is there a way to make it, or do I just have to suck it up and use nm-applet?17:36
Myrttipidgin and firefox should work fine if you tick them to online mode17:36
Myrttithere was some trick to make them ignore avahi17:37
krielI couldn't find said tickbox for pidgin17:41
Myrttiand I can't find the howto I followed17:50
krielOkay, that's fine.18:02
krielNow I know what I need to look for that's making the error, though. [avahi]. Thank you.18:02
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Roland-hey, how do I set xubuntu to start in text mode by default, not x19:17
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IronJanin xfce there are the options window: "focus on click" and "focus on mouseover". is there any similar for taskbar? when you hover over an "window button" the window is opened?20:12
vinnlNot that I'm aware of20:12
IronJanis there the possibility to make a suggestion to the xfce-team?20:14
vinnlYeah20:14
vinnlIronJan, http://bugzilla.xfce.org/20:14
IronJanvinnl: thanks a lot20:14
vinnlnp :)20:15
jo1newbie needs help!20:52
viddyes they do....20:52
viddwhat can i do for them?20:52
vidd=]20:52
jo1ha, thanks20:52
jo1well, i am brand new to ubuntu20:52
viddubuntu or Xubuntu?20:52
jo1and am running a ibook g3 90020:52
jo1xubuntu sorry20:53
viddnp...id still help =]20:53
jo1so, i am using the live cd right now, however, when I run the installer from the desktop, the install fails20:53
viddis the 3g PPC ach or intel arch?20:54
jo1says the mirror failed or something20:54
jo1ppc20:54
Odd-rationale!ppc20:54
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ20:54
viddjol you have the wrong instalation disk20:54
jo1the live disk runs fine20:55
viddyes...and it will20:55
Odd-rationalejo1: that is because it loads into ram... :D20:55
jo1what install should I be using?20:55
viddthe install, however needs to be PPC arch20:55
viddsee the wiki link Odd-rationale posted20:55
jo1I searched and thought that I d/l the ppc20:56
Odd-rationalejo1: see the link above...20:56
viddwell...the bot =]20:56
jo1i've read all the *buntu stuff on ppc and it doesn't support newer releases, but others say that it works fine20:56
vinnlIt supports it unofficially20:57
viddjo1, think of it this way....20:57
viddyou have a leadded gas machine...20:57
viddyou are trying to use unleaded gas20:57
jo1i've even tried to install ubuntu 6.06 the last supported release and the screen goes black20:57
viddget the ppc version of 6.620:58
jo1did that20:58
jo1also did kubuntu20:58
vidddo the alt install of it20:58
viddnot the live install20:58
jo1i don't know enough linux to use alt install no gui20:58
jika-buni'm having big problems installing a flash player to xubuntu20:59
jo1like i said noob20:59
viddpfft....the alt install is more intuitive IMHO20:59
Odd-rationalejo1: it is really not that different... if you have another machine to chat, we can help you if you have any questions...20:59
Odd-rationalejika-bun: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work?20:59
viddstick in disk, enter 5 times, pick username, password, enter 3 more times, reboot, enjoy21:00
Odd-rationalevidd: wow, you memeorized that part pretty good... :D21:00
vinnlvidd's been through it a lot I suppose ;-)21:00
viddive done it enough times21:00
viddjust dont do the auto-detect keyboard....choose manually21:01
jika-bunOdd-rationale, it shows some problems, i'll do pastebin, wait up21:01
vinnlNot with the MD5 sum I hope...21:01
vinnl!flash21:01
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash21:01
jika-bunOdd-rationale: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49054/21:04
vinnljika-bun, are you retrieving it from an external software source?21:06
vinnlIt says Flash Player 10 (10.0.12.10ubuntu1~ppa3)21:06
jika-bunwell, not really, i did apt-get21:07
Odd-rationalejika-bun: have you done "sudo apt-get update" lately?21:07
jika-bunmaybe because mine is x64?21:07
vinnlBut apparently one of your repositories offers it21:07
Odd-rationalejika-bun: is this 64 bit?21:07
vinnlAh21:07
jika-bunyes21:07
Odd-rationalejika-bun: i think the link above given by ubottu tells how to do flash on 64 bit...21:08
Odd-rationalehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash21:08
jika-bunhmmm ok i'll read it ;)21:09
jika-bunthank!21:09
DasYogihowdy21:18
Odd-rationale!hi | DasYogi21:18
ubottuDasYogi: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!21:18
DasYogithanks guys...hae a quick question about dual booting xubuntu and debian....21:18
DasYogiis this the right plae?21:18
DasYogimeant place21:18
vinnlSure21:18
DasYogisweet...I already have xubuntu installed and have about 20 gb free space...was thinking to install debian there...should I create a partition space before installation or have debian guid me through it...also, do I have to modify grub?21:19
Odd-rationaleDasYogi: either way would work. and yes, you will have to modify grub...21:20
vinnlAh, if you're going to install Debian afterwards you might be better off in #debian, but I'm quite sure Debian will be able to choose an existing partition21:20
vinnl(Though 20 GB isn't that much)21:20
jika-bunwell that worked21:21
jika-bunthank you vinnl and Odd-rationale21:22
jika-bun:)21:22
Odd-rationalenp21:22
DasYogithanks vinni...heading to #debian21:22
tatofoois it just me or fonts <= size 10 in xfce terminal doesn't have aliasing/hinting?21:27
vondererhello, does anyone use wallpaper clock screenlet?21:30
vinnl!ask21:30
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)21:30
vondererok, if anyone uses wallpaper clock screenlet, please, tell me how to make it work ^^21:31
vinnlCan't you just run it? :)21:31
vondererif it was so easy — I wouldn't ask :)) It starts, but doesn't apply any desktop wallpaper21:32
vinnlvonderer, I don't suppose it is made for xfdesktop21:33
vondererhttp://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=6671721:34
vondererChangelog:21:34
vondererv2.3 xfce workarround21:34
vinnlOK, wait, I'm going to try it :)21:34
vinnl...if I can figure out how to install screenlets21:34
vinnl!screenlets21:35
ubottuScreenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/21:35
vinnlHmm, that needs updating21:35
vondererjust as any other app: with aptitude or synaptic21:35
vondererand they actually run without Compiz21:36
vinnlYeah xfwm4 has compositing21:36
vinnlvonderer, OK, what's it supposed to do?21:39
vinnlI do see a clock now21:39
vondererit is supposed to put on your desctop a wallpaper with clock21:39
vinnlOK, I just have the clock that's hovering over my windows21:39
vinnlThere's a checkbox for "Xfce workaround" in the settings21:39
vondererhttp://www.vladstudio.com/ru/wallpaperclock/details.php?175http://www.vladstudio.com/ru/wallpaperclock/details.php?17521:40
vondererlike that21:40
vondererwell, «Xfce workaround» doesn't work for me21:40
vinnlvonderer, I just have the clock and I set it to attach to my desktop now21:41
vinnlHow do you install wallpapers?21:41
vondererright-click on the icon (small clock) and chose install wallpaper21:41
vondererafter that — change wallpaper clock->My wallpapers->wallpaper name21:42
vinnlOK, it appears to be loading...21:43
vinnlNo entry in the menu yet21:44
vinnlvonderer, you don't have to use multiple wallpapers as Xfce wallpaper?21:51
vinnlvonderer, I give up... It's a very cool idea though21:54
vonderervinnl: no, i think. thanks for trying to help :)21:55
vinnlnp :)21:55
vondererI'll try to restart xfce, maybe it'll help21:56
vondererbye :)21:56
vinnlBye21:56
vinnlI'm off too, bye21:56
Genelyktomorrow day testing :D22:13
coldhakok, so i installed compiz, everything works fine as far as that goes, but i want to uninstall it. i tried uninstalling it about an hour ago, and then xfce doesn't work22:15
coldhakideas?22:16
coldhaki'll log in, see the xfce bars like usual, but then they disappear, and i'm stuck with one desktop and only the windows i had up previously22:16
viddcoldhak, reinstall it, then uninstall it with the --purge switch22:18
coldhakyou mean compiz or xfce?22:19
viddcompiz22:19
coldhak...won't that just reinstall compiz and rm compiz's settings?22:20
viddyes22:20
coldhaki've got compiz working fine.22:21
vidddid you remove combiz settings when you uninstalled it?22:21
coldhakit works as it should22:21
coldhaki want to get rid of it, but i want xfce to work22:21
vidd"i want to uninstall it....xfce doesn't work"22:22
viddso you want to --purge22:22
viddwhen you uninstall22:22
coldhakok22:22
viddotherwise, you have ave left-over config files that are (probably) causing your issue22:23
vidd[this lag is killing me!!!!]22:23
coldhakok, i'll give that a shot22:23
coldhaki'll be back via another computer if it doesn't work22:23
viddi probably wont be here22:25
coldhakthat's ok. i'll be back just the same22:25
viddwelcome back22:27
Pete_Iyeah, didn't work22:28
Genelyk_o\  \o\  lol /o/ /o_   hip hip !!22:28
viddwhat didnt work?22:29
Pete_Ithe panel's there, but there's no window borders, i can't move windows. the panel's always on bottom22:29
=== Pete_I is now known as Coldhak
viddok....22:29
viddso you need to reset xfce as the window manager22:29
Coldhakok, how do i do that?22:30
Coldhakthe xconfig?22:30
viddcan you bring up the menu?22:30
Coldhakyeah22:30
Coldhakmenu works. i can access a shell and all that, but if i a program comes up maximized(firefox/xchat) i can't minimize/resize it22:31
viddapplications->settings->login window22:31
viddwhat is "Default Session" set to?22:32
Coldhakxfce22:33
viddhrm22:34
Coldhakwhen i go to "window manager" in the settings manager, it says "these settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)" :/22:35
viddtype xfdesktop in a terminal....does this fix it?22:35
Coldhakno.22:36
Coldhak:'( i really don't wanna reload this system. i just loaded it yesterday22:37
viddthe fix isnt all that difficult....22:37
Coldhakwell, what is it?22:37
viddthe setting is somewhere in GDM....22:37
viddgo to the logon screen, and see what sessions are available22:38
Coldhakthe norm. xfce, xclient script, gnome, secure remote, failsafe gnome, failsafe terminal22:39
viddselect xfce22:39
viddany luck?22:40
Coldhaknot sure what you're thinkin', but that's not it22:40
Coldhak:(22:40
viddok....22:40
viddback to settings manager...22:40
viddsessions and startups22:40
Coldhaknothing strange here either. says it starts gnome services on login22:42
viddis "display chhoser on login checked?22:43
Coldhakit wasn't, but it is now22:43
Coldhakwhere's xfce store it's data?22:43
Coldhaki may have a backup22:43
viddso far as I know, in your /home directory22:44
Coldhakyeah, :) what's the folder called i mean22:44
vidd.config22:45
viddtime for my good friend google....22:45
Coldhak<3 backups22:47
Coldhakthanks for the help22:47
viddColdhak, xfwm4 --replace22:51
viddhopefully that fixes you up....22:52
viddi have to go home now...be back if i can in a bit22:52
Coldhakhmm. had i not already fixed it, that might have22:54
Roland-hey, how do I make flash sites work on 64bit xubuntu ?23:08
TheSheepRoland-: install flashplugin-nonfree23:10
Roland-oh23:18
Roland-that was damn simple23:18
Roland-lol23:18
Roland-what about java?23:18
Roland-:>23:18
TheSheepRoland-: nope23:19
Roland-no java?23:19
TheSheepRoland-: at least not by Sun23:19
Roland-doesn't matter I need java apps to work23:19
Roland-gues we have to wait for google chrome linux23:19
TheSheep!java23:19
TheSheepRoland-: javascript is something completely different than java23:20
TheSheepRoland-: javascript will work without any extra efforts23:20
Roland-oh perfect23:22
Roland-even java games?23:22
TheSheepno23:23
TheSheepjava is something completely different than javascript23:23
TheSheepthe name similarity is accidental23:24
TheSheepRoland-: you can try gcjwebplugin23:25
TheSheepRoland-: but code that's badly written won't work on it23:25
Roland-ok23:25
Roland-i have one more q23:26
Roland-i have a laptop sony vaio23:26
Roland-and I have speakers and jak23:26
Roland-in xfce4 mixer I do not have jack options23:26
Roland-and if I plug the eraphones nothing happens23:26
TheSheephttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins23:27
TheSheepthis can be helpful23:27
TheSheepRoland-: as for audio, my headphones out is badly detected as "surround", maybe yours has misleading name too23:27
Roland-is about jack configuration....23:28

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