[01:38] * apachelogger got a messed up sleeping schedule [02:03] i'd say [02:09] jtechidna: nice gnome you got there :P [02:09] :P [02:11] hello all [02:13] apachelogger: I built qt 4.4.2 debs. handed to riddell for upload [02:13] cool [02:13] * apachelogger still tries getting qt-copy to build ;-) [02:14] :) ya. some great experience for me [02:14] apachelogger: what source is it you have? [02:14] rgreening: the one from kde [02:15] I used the qt + ubuntu patches from qt copy. [02:15] worked for me [02:15] * apachelogger hopes the patches apply now [02:15] some were removed [02:15] as applied already [02:15] rgreening: they certainly worked after 4.4.2 was imported [02:15] you want the diff I did for 4.4.42 [02:15] that was >24 before I updated the checkout, which is pretty bad ;-) [02:15] 4.4.2 [02:16] rgreening: no, I think it's already fixed [02:16] getting a new package right now [02:16] are you building 4.4.2 or svn? [02:18] qt-copy, which is 4.4.2 + patches from kdesvn [02:20] Cool. I used to use qt-copy patches way back at Gentoo. :) How much diff is it from what we use in kubuntu (a lot more patches than what we apply?) [02:21] I was one of the Xeffects maintainers (not the saucy rude one though.. haha) [02:22] *shrug* [02:23] :) [02:23] * rgreening can't wait for Heros premiere to start [02:23] is it this week? [02:24] * jjesse is halfway through season 2 [02:24] Monday [02:25] wow [02:25] * rgreening jumps for joy [02:25] yee haa [02:25] yay [02:25] i love my dvr [02:26] I have a film class.. but I'll be finished just in time to watch the 2 hour premiere [02:26] whee [03:10] well someon's gone and one it for intrepid [03:10] http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3096011.msg147199#msg147199 [03:10] * claydoh awaits broken stuff... [03:12] lol [03:16] lol I fixed my touchpad in intrepid, and I can't remember which bit made it work :( [03:16] heh [03:18] lol the kde3 packages are listed as maintained by ubuntu-core-devel [03:18] * claydoh ain't going near them with a 100m pole [03:18] not good. [03:19] obviously not properly built/updated [03:19] i know its ust someone dcowoing it for himself (I hope), but holy [03:20] ya. [03:27] hm [03:27] claydoh: keep us updated [03:28] * apachelogger wants to rant about the packages for bad QA :P [03:28] claydoh: does someone need to send a mail from ubuntu-core-devel saying that these are not our packages, and please not to attribute them to us? [03:28] on what, how may hosed system there will be :/ [03:28] if people rant about our KDE 4 backprots, we can as well rant about their KDE 3 forward ports :P [03:29] Hobbsee: I would think so, or at least more info on hios site [03:30] he probably ust rebuilt src packages I am guessing?? [03:30] looks like it [03:30] arghh bad fingers [03:30] well bad finger with bandaid [03:31] bandaid? [03:31] i'd say so [03:31] * apachelogger feels like falling asleep again [03:32] apachelogger: small bandage (brand-name) [03:32] reading bug reports is way too boring [03:32] claydoh: ic [03:32] Hobbsee: I have an email address [03:32] for the poster at least [03:36] jtechidna: I noticed you packaged the .so files in ktorrent 3.1.2 ... .so are files which are only required for development/building, so you shouldn't include them in non-dev packages [03:37] stick it to him.. lol [03:37] in re to the KDE3.5 post [03:38] :) [03:38] apachelogger: you getqtcopy done/working? [03:38] it goes both places :) [03:38] * claydoh goes to sleep now [03:38] rgreening: no, I just don't apply the patches [03:38] nini claydoh [03:39] heh [03:39] apachelogger: anything you need worked on? [03:40] bug triage :D [03:40] any specific ones you want (i.e. high priority) [03:40] for intrepid [03:47] rgreening: everything is high priority, kdepim and kdebase bugs especially, since there are a lot of them fixed in 4.1.1 probably [03:47] ok. I'll take a stab at cleaning some of them up [03:48] rgreening: cool, btw, in case you request information don't forget to mark them as incomplete [03:48] * apachelogger notes that a lot of bugs have reports who don't really want to communicate [03:48] yep [03:48] I know the feeling [03:49] apachelogger: so, going over this URL should be what you want looked at (c0rrect): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+bugs [03:50] or something else? [03:50] rgreening: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim [03:51] kk [03:51] you can mostly ignore stuff which is already incompelte, I try to regulary hunt down bugs without responose and such which are incomplete but have a response :) [03:54] k [04:04] apachelogger: I cannot edit the status as it stands (not a member of kdepim). suggestions? [04:04] huh? [04:04] any launchpad user should be able to edit the status [04:04] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/260418 [04:05] I click status and get You are not the bug assignee nor the maintainer of kdepim (Ubuntu), and therefore cannot edit this bug's status. [04:05] :) [04:05] rgreening: are you logged in? [04:05] 1 sec... maybe it didn't... [04:05] stupid konqueror [04:05] no... [04:05] oh well [04:05] 1 sec [04:06] rgreening: I pasted the edge.launchpad url [04:06] edge is the testing version of launchpad and got a different cookie [04:06] oh [04:06] that would explain it (my konq auto logs me in everywhere... normally [04:07] thanks... much better now [04:07] can edit [04:08] \o/ [04:17] apachelogger: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kgrubeditor/+bug/272973 [04:17] will look [04:18] apachelogger: I'm working to update kgrubeditor, ok? subscribe to motu-release ? [04:19] no [04:19] Lex79: mark it as invalid [04:19] 5b is a pre-release [04:19] if there should be any issues and artemisfowel has to change .5 from .5b we need a new exception [04:20] so we better just wait for the the final .5 [04:20] Lex79: besides, the bzr branch is already updated ;-) [04:20] ah ok :( [04:20] :) [04:21] Lex79: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kgrubeditor/ubuntu [04:22] apachelogger: ok... plasmoid-cpuload is ready for upload? [04:23] Lex79: did you get an FFe? [04:23] ya [04:24] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/268419 [04:24] Lex79: btw, you don't need to update the changelog/copyright datetimes everytime you upload a refined version to revu [04:25] it's not like anyone would care if the intiial packaging happened on 22 Sep or 17 Sep ;-) [04:26] vorian: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-cpuload [04:26] I'm newbie :) [04:27] apachelogger: I'm learning... [04:27] that is why I told you :) [04:27] :) [04:28] apachelogger: "btw" what it means in English? [04:28] Lex79: by the way [04:28] ohhhhhhh [04:28] :) [04:31] Riddell: bug 272383 [04:32] uh [04:32] brokenbot(tm) [04:32] Riddell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/272383 [04:35] apachelogger: kcm-gtk-kde4 is updated, can I update the package? [04:35] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/gtk-kde4?content=74689 [04:35] 0.8b -> 0.8 [04:36] Lex79: yes [04:36] especially look into Qt4 theme installing was automatized [04:37] ya [04:37] open FFe ? [04:37] that automatization could make our get-orig-source redundant [04:38] Lex79: I suggest preparing the package first, maybe even get an advocation [04:38] it speeds up the FFe process, IMHO motu-release cares too much about the packaging these days [04:39] ok [04:39] how to get an advocation? [04:40] upload to revu :P [04:41] ok :P [04:41] thx [04:44] apachelogger: with uscan: gtk-kde4: remote site does not even have current version [04:44] probably broken then [04:44] download source manualy from kde-apps? [04:47] Lex79: yes [05:12] rgreening: if you want to, you can kill bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/271779 [05:14] i'll look into it. ty [05:43] * apachelogger goes outside and gets some exercise [08:55] hm [08:55] I don't like the kaffeine codec installer code at all [09:42] hmm gtk-gt-engine no longer works [09:50] apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=gtk-kde4 [09:55] Lex79: be more verbose in the changelog, keep in mind that someone who didn't see the debdiff needs to know what you did from looking at the changelog [09:56] apachelogger: about the kaffeine codec installer bug, I think adding "return" after the "QApplication.exit(#)" calls should fix it. because it seems to be just running over that and running the dcop commands [09:57] unless it needs QApplication.processEvents() too (not sure looking at the code) [09:57] I thought that I was too verbose :P [09:58] stdin: no [09:58] I have to change debian/changelog? [09:58] stdin: the point of QApplication::exit is pretty much that the app exits :P [09:59] apachelogger: yes, but it isn't working in that code [09:59] the problem is that the cpp part of the codec installer always asumes the script exited properly and returns true [09:59] then the xinepart gets reinitialized [09:59] again can't play the file [09:59] starts the installer again... [10:00] even worse is that the script apparently depends on adept batch but the package doesn't [10:00] so it's even more broken on intrepid [10:01] and that it is actually calling kdesu directly is an abomination of KDE IMHO [10:01] Lex79: what deps did you changeß [10:01] ? [10:02] a moment [10:03] Lex79: well, that is what you need to document [10:04] if one of the deps causes problems or something, I will open the changelog and search for the package name [10:04] apachelogger: old control http://paste.ubuntu.com/49226/ [10:04] pbuilder doesn't build with deps in old control [10:04] sorry [10:04] build works [10:05] but broken install [10:05] now is ok [10:06] the maintainer has gnome and has not noticed the problem [10:08] well, from looking at it, it seriously looks weird [10:09] Lex79: I'll have to do the kaffeine codec installation fix before I can give it a full revu [10:09] just verbosify the changelog for now [10:11] ok [10:12] maybe stdin can take a look at it ;-) [10:14] thats strange [10:14] thanks ;) [10:14] when I open a link in konversation (intrepid) it opens thunderbird [10:14] 1. that should be a browser [10:14] 2. thunderbird should not be installed by default [10:15] fresh alpha 6 [10:16] jeroen-: how fresh is that fresh? [10:16] apachelogger: from cd [10:16] hm [10:16] no good! [10:16] maybe some dependecy [10:17] yes [10:17] jeroen-: run apt-get remove thunderbird and tell me which packages that would remove [10:17] another problem is that kde4 doesnt remember my 1280x1024 resolution [10:17] it always want 1600xsomethinh [10:17] but when I go to settings > display it is set ok [10:18] apachelogger: I will [10:18] apachelogger: only thunderbird is removed [10:18] Lex79: I'd change the build-dep on cdbs to (>= 0.4.51). because that's what kde4libs has and to remove the ubuntu part [10:18] Lex79: and it'll be good to number the patches [10:19] jeroen-: then it is probably some recommends and not a dependency that pulls thunderbird in [10:19] well I didnt yet install something by hand, except mysql-server [10:19] that might already be enough to pull thunderbird in really [10:20] stdin: ok [10:21] jeroen-: please report a bug against kubuntu-meta, and assign it to me [10:21] this certainly needs some investigation [10:22] apachelogger: I will if I have everything in order [10:22] apachelogger: you mean the thunderbird-bug? [10:22] yes [10:22] or the resolution-bug? [10:22] resolution is already reported [10:22] ok [10:22] great [10:22] I will later this day [10:23] stdin: -(~/.kde/share/config:$)-> cat kaffeinerc | grep xine [10:23] xine-engine+ffmpeg=true [10:24] Last Service Desktop Name=xine_part [10:24] apachelogger: and actually, adding "return" after QApplication.exit(#) does stop it from looping ;) [10:25] stdin: after which one? [10:25] jtechidna, Riddell: ping [10:25] apachelogger: in run(self), the two before the os.system() stuff [10:26] I think it's the one after "if not self.installer():" mostly [10:26] hm [10:27] no, I don't like the installer, and I even less like it's QA [10:27] yeah, it does leave a lot to be desired [10:28] apachelogger: pong [10:28] Riddell: do we have a replacement for adept_batch? [10:28] apachelogger: install-package [10:28] thanks [10:29] apachelogger: what for? [10:29] Riddell: kaffeine's codec installer [10:32] oh yes, thanks [10:32] well I guess I should blog about having saved the planet [10:34] hehe [10:35] stdin: is the script looping in itself? [10:35] * apachelogger is wondering how installDistroCodec would be accessed without codec argument [11:00] * jussi01 sighs... still cant get qt4-designer to work [11:11] apachelogger: doesn't look like it loops itself [11:12] __init__() calls run() which calls QApplication.exit() [11:13] that thing needs a rewrite though [11:16] * Lex79 is away: Per ora assente [11:17] why not using oxygen-icons in the intrepid kde3 applications? [11:18] no easy way to do that [11:18] openoffice would be more important [11:18] well I did it in hardy myself [11:19] yes openoffice is also important [11:28] * apachelogger had an oxygen -> kde3 script once [11:28] got lost I think :S [11:28] stdin: yes ... in cpp [11:29] apachelogger: well I still have tar0file [11:31] anyhow - I can't add non-kde-apps to the panel - it only add a .desktop-file [11:33] feel free to find the cause [11:38] and the amarok collection is not showing the songs [11:38] apachelogger: I am not a programmer, I just notice things [11:47] * Lex79 is back. [12:19] stdin: the return isn't the most awesome solution, but it should do for an SRU :) [12:34] Riddell: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17828577/kaffeine_0.8.6-2ubuntu1_to_ubuntu2.diff [12:43] apachelogger: plong [12:43] oh [12:51] apachelogger: how is powerdevil thus far? [12:55] nixternal: missing a systray/plasmoid thing [12:55] other than that better than gpm TBH [12:55] groovy, will have to give it a try === davmor2 is now known as davmor2-lunch [12:57] apachelogger: that quilt refresh seems a bit more than a refresh, e.g. it adds +#include [12:57] hum, faulty merge indeed [12:57] Riddell: please remove that [12:58] Riddell: kconfig.h as well [12:59] apachelogger: uploaded, thanks [13:01] Riddell: I'll prepare the SRU later [13:01] * apachelogger leaves for a coffee [13:01] apachelogger: SRU? [13:04] Riddell: hey [13:04] morning rgreening, Qt still compiling here [13:04] lol [13:05] slow PC [13:05] :) [13:05] I fell asleep yesterday I'm afraid, tired after winning a marathon [13:05] lol.. what marathon? [13:05] and good job [13:05] a canoe one [13:05] ah right... cool [13:06] no lightning [13:06] :P [13:07] well, qt 4.4.2 has been working for me for last 24 h. No issues have popped up with it that I can see. [13:10] hey... anyone can help me with alien issue? "dpkg-gencontrol: error: current host architecture 'i386' does not appear in package's architecture list (amd64)"? [13:10] It's a source RPM... [13:10] Is there a way I can force alien to extract the src RPM on diff ARCH? [13:11] are you sure it's src? that would be platform independent [13:11] I know... that's why I am stumped. FOund this online at OpenSuSE: libqt4-jambi-4.4.0-5.7.src.rpm [13:11] trying to see what they did [13:14] interesting, they hadn't packaged it last I looked (ages ago) [13:14] ya.. it's def Alpha quality RPM.. haha [13:14] :) [13:15] I dont thinks it was in the "release" stage yet [13:15] rgreening: where did you find that? it's not in factory [13:15] nope... hmm... can't remember the link. It was OpenSuSE though... [13:15] google knows it not [13:15] 1 sec.... [13:15] let me see if I can re-find it. [13:16] ah hah http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt44/openSUSE_Factory/src/libqt4-jambi-4.4.0-5.3.src.rpm [13:17] fakeroot alien libqt4-jambi-4.4.0-5.3.src.rpm works here [13:19] http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/3/srodzaj/2/search/libqt4-jambi-4.4.0-5.7.src.rpm [13:19] cool.. let me try [13:21] I get same err on the 5.7 on.. let me get the 5.3 one [13:22] ok.. what's up with my system... I get the same error with i386 (amd64) [13:25] Riddell? Are you running a i386 or amd64? [13:26] Riddell: the src has debian/co0ntrol with amd64 in it [13:37] rgreening: what command are you running? [13:37] oh, are you trying to build it? I doubt that'll ever work [13:39] borrow the patches and build rules, but I wouldn't try just building an alien'ed RPM [13:57] rgreening: qt compiles and works, all looks good so I'll upload [14:02] 1 sec... [14:02] cool. [14:02] :) === davmor2-lunch is now known as davmor2 [14:40] Riddell: hardy's kaffeine is looping as well [14:51] huh.. what's crashing on startup in alpha 6? and then the "crash" bubble crashes.. [14:52] * rgreening patiently awaits K3B for KDE4... [14:53] * jussi01 saw sexy new libnotify today... [14:54] * rgreening wants to be KDE3 free one day [14:56] * apachelogger never liked the crash bubble [14:57] apachelogger: when do we get the new libnotify in hardy? and is it in intrepid yet? [14:58] if I care a little about about kaffeine, I probably don't care at all about libnotify :P [14:58] rofl... [14:58] but its so nice.. http://omploader.org/vcmto [14:58] Riddell: looks like compiz 0.7.7 (some svn release) is currently in intrepid and 0.7.8 is out. Can we bump to 0.7.8? If so, I can work on packaging it [14:59] OMFG.. that notify ROX [14:59] I care about it.. :) [14:59] wow [14:59] :D [15:00] * rgreening searches for source... [15:02] rgreening: dunno, you'd need to ask the compiz packagers (there might be a #ubuntu-compiz) [15:02] kk... [15:04] jussi01: you compile that libnotify yourself? [15:04] I want to get rid of the crappy old one [15:04] Riddell: no such channel :) [15:04] popped a msg on ubuntu-devel [15:04] nixternal: nope. its not mine, got that from sput in #quassel (the quassel lead dev... ) [15:05] ahh, I was wondering why I hadn't seen anything new from Galago [15:06] nixternal: I was hoping we could have it in intrepid, and then hardy, so I would get it :D [15:06] cause it is "teh sexiness" [15:07] I am taking it he redid libnotify with qt [15:08] sput didn't do that really :P [15:08] jussi01: where is the source anyway? [15:09] argh.. can someone tell me how to kill the notify bubbles that crashed? i can't access any of my system tray icons [15:09] no idea, Im asking sput now... [15:09] seele: just deactivate apport ... /etc/default/apport IIRC [15:09] apachelogger: i dont know what that means [15:10] well, kdesudo kate THATFILE [15:10] there is a line sayin 'enabled=1' change the 1 to a 0 save the file [15:10] then a relogin should make that thing disappear I guess [15:11] jussi01: if you get the source, I can work on building it (assuming someone wishes to accept into upstream {pretty please - haha}) [15:11] would need a feature freeze exception [15:11] rgreening: soon as I find out where it is Ill let you know [15:12] apachelogger: didn't work :-/ [15:12] :) [15:12] seele: no clue then, Riddell probably knows [15:12] apachelogger: It may well be worth it. The existing one is god awful and takes away from the whole plasma/KDE4 experience IMHO. This would be a great benefit. [15:12] well [15:13] last I checked the plasma integration was pretty 4.2ish [15:13] [17:12:00] jussi01: uhm? [15:13] [17:12:07] jussi01: I'm running KDE trunk [15:13] see [15:13] doh [15:13] [17:12:29] knotify should be part of kdebase [15:13] hrmph [15:13] * jussi01 cries... [15:13] * rgreening wishes KDE4.2 was out [15:16] * jussi01 wishes ksnapshot had an "upload to imagebin" button... [15:18] * apachelogger thinks jussi01 should implement that :P [15:19] I just use import and save directly to server, sshfs <3 [15:19] sleep 5 ; import -window root /mnt/ssh-kapsi/sites/www.tm-travolta.net/www/shots/current_1.png [15:20] like that, for example [15:20] * apachelogger uses ksnapshot and save directly to server [15:20] makes numbering easier [15:20] apachelogger: that too (:) [15:21] apachelogger: ah, on reboot it worked, but there are two blank spaces where the icons ought to be [15:21] weird [15:22] apachelogger: wohoooooooo [15:22] new neon build [15:22] what did you do? [15:22] * seele wonders why brainstorm doesn't use openid [15:22] * Nightrose hugs apachelogger [15:23] Nightrose: Oo [15:23] without kdelibs? [15:23] how did that work [15:23] * Tm_T wonders how I can use launchpad.net openid elsewhere [15:23] apachelogger: dunno - i am installing a new amarok neon [15:23] hm [15:23] fair enough [15:24] apachelogger: did you fix anything or did it fix itself? [15:24] I build qt 4.4.2 [15:24] ah [15:24] cool [15:24] thanks :) [15:28] Tm_T: yes, if the site accepts it [15:28] Riddell: ah, will try that then [15:28] * Tm_T had/have issues with ubuntu.com wiki at times [15:29] seele: killall update-notifier-kde ? [15:31] Riddell: oh, i was killing knotify heh [15:31] Riddell: apachelogger's option worked though [15:39] argh.. 1000 word limit? what a stupid application [15:40] how am i going to cut out 500+ words === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [16:12] I think desktop-effects.kde4 is b0rked. Still wants to run adept_batch, which is part of the old adept and not ver 3 [16:12] hmm, needs updating [16:12] a job for me [16:12]