/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/22/#kubuntu.txt

i3ooi3ooI have an issue, where i had install the ATI (closed Drive) then removed it now my fglrxinfo state it by  Mesa project not ATI00:01
paolohi. before buying this wi-fi ethernet card: hamlet HNWU254G i need to know if it's well compatible with (k)ubuntu. how can i check that?00:06
master_In firefox, I just printed to pdf---so uh, where exactly did it put the pdf file?00:16
i3ooi3ooxorg.log ->http://pastebin.ca/120782000:24
i3ooi3oofrim a fail boot00:24
i3ooi3ooany ideas?00:24
o0Chris0o_is konversation, kopete packaged in kde4 yet?00:34
o0Chris0o_!kde400:34
Nigskkichrist, when is amarok 2 coming?00:34
Nigskkishit looks cash ^_^00:35
o0Chris0o_prolly with kde 4.200:35
Nigskkithey said it would come in the middle of the two releases00:36
Nigskkias in kde 4.1 and 4.200:36
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leftBlinkeris the paste bin source available?00:52
demontagerWhat is Kubuntu 8.04 Remix00:54
dopeso i setup vncserver on here but when i connect into it I don't see what's on my desktop, rather I see a console window00:55
favroleftBlinker: http://paste.ubuntu.com00:59
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leftBlinkerdope:  I dont have it installed anymore but maybe take a look at this file $HOME/.vnc/xstartup and have startkde in there somewhere?01:00
dopeok thanks leftBlinker01:01
dopeleftBlinker: that kind of worked.  i get just like a weird checkboardish desktop now01:03
dopei found something in that startup file that said uncomment the following two lines for a normal desktop and so i did01:04
leftBlinkercool, i dont really remember, but the server will run the file like a shell script, somehow start kde with command line?01:06
ZeroSilverwingargh, i'm in a live session right now, and i can't get my sound card to work01:09
ZeroSilverwingi mmean it registers on kmix but ffff01:09
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ninixhi guys, i did my normal packages upgrade few days ago..... and now, my kwin don't start at startup i must run it with ALT-F2, any hint ?01:19
DarkriftXwhats the best backup program/command? I am about to make some driver changes and want a backup incase it doesnt work (wifi drivers, they are finicky and take a while to get working once screwed up)01:20
ninixDarkriftX: why not make a simple image of your disk ?01:21
felipe__holaaaaaaaaaa01:21
ninixat least, of the /.01:21
DarkriftXlarge disk, not a lot of storage01:21
felipe__alguien me entiende?01:21
ninix/ is normally small01:21
felipe__how can i use my mobil in kubuntu???????????????01:21
ninixand your /home is normally on another disk..01:21
DarkriftXits not01:22
DarkriftXall on same disk01:22
ninixif not.... bad install :P01:22
PantherDreamhello01:22
felipe__hey01:22
DarkriftXdefault install01:22
ninixok01:22
felipe__heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy01:22
veziri can't get any sound on kde 3.5.9 :/01:22
DarkriftXthere isnt any sort of "system" backup that grabs all the important stuff?01:23
DarkriftXmy home folder will probably be safe01:23
PantherDreami wanna change from gnome to kde01:23
DarkriftX!info kubuntu-*01:23
ninixPantherDream: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:23
DarkriftXyeah, thats it01:23
ninixDarkriftX: yeah... make an image of your / :)01:24
DarkriftXok01:24
ninixthere isn't a LIST of important stuff.... that's no sense.01:24
ninixif your system work well now..... then all the / is important.01:24
PantherDreamninix, i've done that, i can log into KDE, but i'm having troubles making it usable01:24
DarkriftXim still a bit new to file structure so wasnt sure01:24
ninixPantherDream: what do you mean by "usable"01:24
ninixDarkriftX: np01:25
DarkriftXin windows if you are doing a driver update, theres no need to backup program files folder, so i wasnt sure if there was something close here01:25
DarkriftXso ill do / minus home01:25
ninixDarkriftX: the best way is, when you install create a partition for / and another one for /home, (and if you want, one for /usr). after that, make a backup of / is very easy and not so big01:26
PantherDreamfirst of all, i dont like the default file explorer, nautilus was way nicer, also, compiz is gone and my themes don't show up anymore01:26
ninixkonqueror is a way nicer, in my opinion, but... this can be easily changed in the kde control.01:26
ninixfor compiz, search a tutorial "kde + compiz" you'll find what to settup.01:27
PantherDreamso it is possible to use compiz in KDE just like in Gnome?01:27
ninixoff course, yes. i've already used it.01:28
PantherDreamhow about my themes?01:28
ninixthemes ?01:28
DarkriftXPantherDream, use konqueror, its better then dolphin01:28
ninixif you set a theme in gnome..... that's completly different from a kde theme01:29
PantherDreambut can't i use the same ones?01:29
ninixno. search a new theme at kde-looks.org01:31
PantherDreamok...01:31
ninixYou need to know..... gnome and kde are TWO separate desktop environnement01:31
ninixanyone know about my kwin probleme ?01:32
PantherDreami know, and most of my favorite linux apps (Amarok, Kopete, etc) are built for KDE that's why i wanna change01:32
ninixyeah, kde is a very great desktop...... made with a wonderful framework: QT.01:32
PantherDreamwell, i've never really tried it before, but the applications made for it are great, so it can't be bad01:33
PantherDreamexcept for the obvious ones, how can i tell if a app that i've installed is meant for KDE or Gnome?01:37
DarkriftXis keep a decent automated backup system?01:37
DarkriftXif i tell it to backup / (exclude /home/) every 3 days, would that be reliable and not too system intensive01:37
ninixDarkriftX: i suggest you to look this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/search?PHPSESSID=158a8b4dc6e8b3597ca3b6bf4353a305&cx=017338271194360913207%3Avuzb4jxd_2m&cof=FORID%3A11&q=backup&sa=Search#141401:38
DarkriftXlooking01:38
ninixPantherDream: in fact, a program is simply linked to the GUI library. If you do a simple `ldd /usr/bin/amarok` you will see the link to libQt*.so. that's means that the library use QT.01:39
ninixotherwise... an application can link to libgtk.. or something like that.01:40
ninixand there is no problem to use application made for KDE in gnome, and vice-versa. I use some gtk application here.01:41
tim_Hello, i have a small problem with adept package manager, can anyone help?01:41
ninixtim_: don't ask to ask. ASK :)01:41
ninixand if someone can help you, he will.01:42
akirohello my name is akiro01:43
akiroHELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO01:45
ninix...01:45
akirofuck out c dla marde sti01:45
ninixtu fais quoi là idiot ?01:45
akirokedale sti01:45
akirotoé01:45
tim_=) thank you, half of the rpms, wont download, "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "01:46
ninixje regarde un tata essayé d'écrire sur IRC.01:46
akiroMerci beaucoup01:46
akiromais cpmment on ecrit sur un irc01:46
PantherDreamninix, but aren't KDE applications supposed to run much slower in Gnome, and vice-versa?01:47
PantherDreamthat's the whole point of me switching to KDE01:47
akirook01:47
ninixakiro: first, it's a english channel here. So...there is a channel kubuntu-fr i think.01:47
joshuajtlanyone use the Crystal Project icon theme set?01:47
DarkriftXLOL::Note:- By default Restored Files and Directories are owned by root this is because of sbackup will runs with root.You need to chnage these files or folder permissions using chmod or just right click and select properties of the file or folder.01:48
akirook but if is a english chanel and think you had some rules too01:48
DarkriftXhow friggen useful os that01:48
DarkriftXis*01:48
akirochow01:48
joshuajtlI was wondering if anyone knows how to change the Linspire konqueror spinning logo?01:49
ninixakiro: there is no "rules". except that we need to respect everyone here01:49
akirook01:51
akirothanks fr the tube01:51
akirofor*01:51
Gladyplus u change my auto connection all the time01:57
tim_=) thank you, half of the rpms, wont download, "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. " any help?02:08
Gladywhat changes you made02:09
favrokubuntu doesn't use rpms02:10
tim_or the packages02:10
tim_sorry02:10
tim_havent done much, im using 8.04 and the packages wouldnt work from the beggining02:11
Gladyput the package in fire02:12
tim_excuse me?02:12
Gladytest it in firefox02:13
Gladyjesus u r  a newbie?02:13
tim_how would i do that?02:13
tim_apparently02:13
dick-richardsonanyone using mysql for amarok? I don't have enough room to run it on my root partition, but have not been able to move it to another02:14
Gladyback to kubrick02:14
Gladyin hollywood02:14
Gladyok night guys02:14
CoJaBo-EeeIs there a way to set time automatically? Theres an option in system settings, but changing it causes it to freeze.02:16
demontagerwhat repo i should add to install kde 4.1.1 in Ubuntu>?02:17
dick-richardson@demontager: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main02:19
surgyi have an mpeg4 file and i need to split it in half, anyone know a peice of software that can do this for me?02:21
dr_willisavidemux proberly can surgy02:23
dr_willis!find avid02:23
dr_willisif i can spell its name right02:24
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szakulecavidemux can do that- if you enable the universe and/or multiverse, it should be present there02:29
szakulecit may also be called avidemux202:30
Kevin_Hello. I've got a headless server set up running Hardy Server Edition that I want to configure with remote resumable KDE sessions... I'm currently using X forwarding to accomplish the remote part of this but I don't know how to make sessions resumable. Help appreciated :).02:35
dr_willisNot sure thats even possible. depending on what you mean by resumeable02:37
fiyawerxKevin_: freenx02:38
dr_willisYou could use vnc/vncserver and have ' desktops' that are persistant. and dont 'close' when the user closes the vncclient tool02:38
dr_willisfreenx may also do that.  Ive never managetd to get freenx working02:38
fiyawerxfreenx/nxclient will do it02:38
fiyawerxi usually just download the .deb's and install manually for the real version, not freenx02:38
Kevin_fiyawerx, freenx/nxclient will allow me to use KDE with X tunneled over ssh?02:38
fiyawerxnomachine has a "free" server that allows I think up to 2 simultaneous connections02:38
dr_willisDid they finally get freenx clients for windows?02:38
dr_willisbeen ages since i last looked at freenx02:38
fiyawerxdr_willis: you could always use nx's real client to connect to freenx server, as long as i've been using it they've had windows clients yeah02:39
fiyawerxand Kevin_: it does use ssh02:39
dr_willisI tend to use 'xming' on the windows machines to get apps forwareded.. or vnc.02:39
fiyawerxand runs quite a bit faster than any other remote desktop type software i've used02:39
Kevin_fiyawerx, ok because I've tried VNC and it is just abysmally slow.... thanks :D02:39
dr_williswith vnc. i find it pays to use a very minimal desktop.  and cut down the # of fancy stuff02:40
dr_willisive only used it on a local lan. so i dident have to worry about ssh tunnles with vnc either.02:40
dr_willisI do hear freenx is much faster.02:40
faileasit is02:41
dr_willisof course with xming, im just displaying a single program/window from the linux box.. not the whole desktop. Its very useable on my local lan.02:41
dr_willisbut not a good idea for over the internet. withoug some ssh tossed in02:41
* faileas notes it also works decently over the net, with home lines02:41
Kevin_fiyawerx, sorry I forgot to clarify, by resumable I mean that I can close the connection on my computer without causing all of my running programs to die02:43
dr_willisI belive the proper term is 'persistant' :)   at least ive heard it called that.02:43
Kevin_dr_willis, yes I think you are correct02:44
darakiananyone here know why my laptop's internal speakers would be enabled while I have speakers connected via the audio out?02:45
darakianand these speakers are outputting sound...02:45
dr_willisI know vnc can do that.. depending on how you start the vncserver.   fiyawerx  sort of suggested that freenx can do it also.. so try them both. :)02:45
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Guest38916Hi! I'm just testing this. Sorry for the spam.02:48
Kevin_fiyawerx, do you know if I will need to remove X from my system before installing freenx?02:48
aktrapperhow can I install Bricolage-cms on kubuntu 8.04 , apt-get fails and  it's not listed  under the abept manager02:49
darakianso no one then?02:52
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x_linkHi02:55
x_linkI just have a question.02:56
x_linkI heard that KDE in Kubuntu is pretty "modified" or something like that.02:56
x_linkIs there anyway to just install "pure" KDE on (K)ubuntu?02:56
x_linkYou have to escuse my english, it's not that good.02:56
mnx_link: what's your native language?03:03
mnx_link: are you there?03:04
zhthi03:04
mister-teahe left03:05
mnoh ok03:05
sbennnn03:05
zht?03:07
darakianhello?03:23
PoliticsSo I'm doing this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68449503:23
PoliticsDown in the WPA section03:23
PoliticsAnd when I issue the wpa_supplicant command it times out03:23
PoliticsAfter trying to associate with my router's MAC address03:24
PoliticsWhich is sees03:24
PoliticsBut then reports "Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.03:24
Politics"03:24
PoliticsAny ideas of what I should do?03:25
mister-tea!enter03:25
DasYogiQuick question - how do you manually set up a wired network connection in xubuntu?03:25
DasYogikubuntu03:25
PoliticsI think I'm doing something similar, DasYogi03:26
PoliticsLook in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495 and see if it works03:26
PoliticsI think that's wireless03:26
Politicsbut wired might be something similar.03:27
DasYogilet me clarify, I've set up my wireless to be served through wpa encryption. i guess what i really would like to know if i need to tweak wpa_supplicant for wired connections03:27
Politicsah, I don't think I can help.03:28
DasYogiforgetting wpa for a moment do I have to declare my wired interface in /etc/network/interfaces?03:29
DasYogimy card is assigned an ethx extension03:29
DasYogiand dchp03:29
mister-teawhere's the bot ?03:39
DarkriftXwhen doing a system backup is it best to just do a tar so that restoring is easier? ive read a lot about backup programs but most seem to be needed to restore their own backups03:41
zeelothey guys, installed 64bit ubuntu today (8.04) and now I can't seem to checkout a repository with kdesvn or rapidsvn anymore, I get PROPFIND of '/': 403 Forbidden, anyone know why? I dont even get a login prompt03:46
mixed1234anyone knows how to enable openGL on 64 bit distro?03:57
mixed1234forget it, i just figured out what was wrong with openGL on my 64 bit distro04:01
atrus42can anyone help me get my screen resolution set?04:02
sumo_suatrus42: hmm i come from ubuntu, but maybe you can explain more?04:04
atrus42well I have an ATI card04:04
sumo_suubuntu indstead of kubuntu04:04
atrus42and I don't know if I just don't have all of the drivers installed correctly04:05
sumo_sui have an ati card too04:05
atrus42or xorg just isn't configured correctly04:05
atrus42but I can't seem to get a display other than 800X60004:05
sumo_suhmm i have an ati1950pro i think... i just have to double reboot after a fresh install04:06
atrus42I have an older AMD 64 bit system04:06
atrus42so I have an AGP version of the 925004:06
atrus42I had it working fine04:06
sumo_suhmm what did you do that could have messed with the xorg.conf?04:07
atrus42but I had thought I had fixed my 6600GT so I uninstalled the ATI stuff and installed the nvidia stuff04:07
atrus42but the nvidia card was still bad so I tried to uninstall the nvidia stuff and reinstall the ATI stuff04:07
atrus42but it doesn't seem to want to go04:07
atrus42when I run the fglrxinfo command it comes up with vesa (is that the right one?) instead of ATI04:08
sumo_suthats a bit over my head buy in my experience thats an improper xorg.conf04:09
sumo_subut i dont want to break your system any further.... so i give up04:09
atrus42which is what I'd guess to, but none of the "walk-throughs" I can find online seem to fully get this fixed04:09
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sumo_suyou could try to use one of the old xorg. backup files... by date maybe?04:10
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sumo_suusually every install of drivers and such creates such a backup file04:11
atrus42which would explain why I have about 12 of them then04:12
atrus42(it's more like 4)04:12
sumo_suyea same her04:12
sumo_suhere04:12
Treppidhi guys, just trying out intrepid, pretty kewl so far, still tons of glitches hehe alpha6 no wonder!04:12
xbxbxbWhen I'm at the login screen, then press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login with my username at the CLI. Does this login procedure require the home folder of this user to be present?04:13
sumo_suatrus42: you could back up the current xorg. and play back one of a time you think it was still good04:13
Treppidif any are trying it (alpha6) warning!, do not!, enable desktop effects!, I lost x-screen picture, completely black! had to reload entire system again!04:15
atrus42what is intrepid?04:15
atrus42nvm04:15
sumo_suintrepid is the next ubuntu version04:15
atrus42right04:15
atrus42brain fart04:15
CoJaBo-Eeelol04:15
atrus42duh04:15
atrus42I'm smart04:15
Treppidya, due out end of oct.04:15
sumo_suoct? i thought sept?04:16
sumo_sumaaan!04:16
Daisuke_IdoTreppid: just because it happened to you doesn't mean it will happen to everyone04:16
Daisuke_Idosumo_su: 8.10 means 2008, october04:16
sumo_suDaisuke_Ido: oh.. thanks:)04:17
CoJaBo-EeeHow do you upgrade to  the next version, is it automatic or do you have to do something?04:17
Treppidtho glad to see, I found 3 or 4 players that worked on dvd's!, now I'll have to save my pennies for a burner hehe,04:17
sumo_sulet me guess: erase your harddrive and ... oh i forgot to burn the image to cd!04:18
sumo_suintrepid will not be a milestone if i see it right... ?04:19
sumo_suthe current 8.04 is "stable" isnt it?04:20
Treppidany here know the correct setting for the jumper switches to hook up a second hardrive?, example= one master, one slave?,both master?04:21
sumo_suTreppid: yea04:21
sumo_suTreppid: you either select one master and one slave by jumper or you put both on cable select04:22
Treppidcable select ok thats probably the way ill go thx lots04:22
sumo_suTreppid: all is doen by jumper. some cables dont support cable select04:22
Treppidoh04:22
sumo_suTreppid: you just have to try. you cant break anything04:23
sumo_suTreppid: modern cables (past 2000) will support cable select and  thats the way to go04:23
Treppidthis is a very old puter so one will have tobe slave,04:23
sumo_suTreppid: if its a very old comp just jumper one driver to master and the other to slave and youre fine04:24
sumo_sugrr not driver.. jumper04:24
sumo_suTreppid: if its a very old comp just jumper one drive to master and the other to slave and youre fine04:24
sumo_susorry04:25
Treppidas far as can't break anything, I found a way lol!, never touched jumpers & tried adding the other HD, some how my dvd burner fried?, must have been "murphy's-law:" that got me haha!04:26
sumo_suwhat sort of hardware are you plugging in?04:27
sumo_suyou shouldnt be able to fry hardware by setting the jumpers wrong04:28
atrus42unless you had the computer on while plugging the hardware in04:29
Treppidone is a 80 gig 7200 rpm drive, other an older IBM 40 gig 7200 rpm drive, maybe their not really both 7200? or different voltage?, oh well04:29
sumo_suyea that fries old computers and that is why sata and usb are so "modern":)04:30
atrus42I still am nervous about plugging my sata drives in while the computer is on04:30
atrus42kinda feels like playing russian roulette04:31
sumo_sui never went thru that adventure:)04:31
sumo_subut i am re-overclocking mine atm:)04:31
atrus42I only did it because my HD had an issue04:31
atrus42and I couldn't get the computer to boot with it in04:31
atrus42so I figured I'd boot up and then plug it in and see if I could pull the stuff off04:31
Treppidok guess ill just make due with the 80 gig, & add the dvd rom, till I can buy just one burner = )04:31
sumo_suwell if you can switch the comp off you switch it off:)04:32
sumo_suyoure not running a 24/7 server (which is what the sata standard was designed for too)04:32
atrus42well I don't often uninstall my hard drives04:32
sumo_susame here:)04:33
sumo_suhardest trick i ever pulled was to take a bios chip out of a running computer, flash it, and put it in mine:)04:33
sumo_suworked:))))04:34
atrus42wow...nice04:34
sumo_su1 broken computer? noooo! i set everything on red!04:34
sumo_sui won 2 fixed computers:)04:34
atrus42excellent04:35
sumo_sucould have been 2 broken ones;))04:35
atrus42indeed04:35
sumo_suyou dont have to do that today.. unPLUG the computer and the bios is more careful04:36
sumo_sui really have to shut up but i'm overclocking instead of playing poker tonight04:37
TreppidI wish I knew how to over clock mine, course the processer speed says locked, not that into dos teckie typing hehe, if thats what it takes?04:38
sumo_suoverclocking is handicraft:)04:38
atrus42depends on your mobo..I think usually it is done in the bios isn't it?04:38
sumo_sudont overclock notebooks04:38
CoJaBo-Eeelol04:38
damianArgentina?????????04:39
damianAlguien??04:39
sumo_suatrus42: right. i bought my comp in parts and assembled them... design was to OC04:39
Treppidwell considering these 2 puters I have are "grampas" to modern ones, I will risk frying em hehe04:39
sumo_su!es|damian04:40
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atrus42I built mine too, but I don't overclock04:40
atrus42I think the one I am on now has a windows utility that would let me do it...but...meh04:40
atrus42maybe I'd be more into it if I actually had done it once or twice and saw a huge speed jump04:41
sumo_sui am willing to overvolt now:)04:41
sumo_sumake the thing die:)04:41
Treppidthe main computer I use now, I found & fixed from a dumpster someone threw away haha04:41
Jimmmmy1Hey guys ! Im currently using Kubuntu and im thinking of updating to the next Ubuntu Version.... Is it faster better or anything or should i just stick to the version that im using now ?04:41
atrus42I am so jealous newegg had a huge jump in proc for sale for 25 bucks, I missed it because I had just moved and didn't have net access yet04:42
sumo_suTreppid: there's traffic here now... we should just shut up with our off topic talk04:42
Treppidya buntu chat again04:42
atrus42maybe I should repeat my query04:42
Jimmmmy1ah dont mind me guys just a quick question and then im off04:42
atrus42I guess that would depend which version of kubuntu you are running04:43
Jimmmmy17.1004:43
Treppidits just a different desktop, zero difference, tho I prefer the look of KDE, = )04:43
Jimmmmy1ah ok ! its only cause im having a bit of trouble with this version i thought that the new ubuntu would have less bugs in it04:44
atrus42what are you talking about treppid? there are difference between 7.10 and 8.0404:45
Treppidyes was talkin bout 8.04 kubuntu & 8.04 ubuntu04:45
Treppidjimmmy!, hope ya see that b4 ya left!04:46
Jimmmmy1ahh still here04:47
Jimmmmy1i didnt know there was a kubuntu 8.0404:47
atrus42there isn't really a difference in speed but there are additional features in 8.04 VS 7.1004:47
Jimmmmy1ill dload that 1 i guess04:47
lizzieI have a PC that is connected to a LAN, and also has a wireless card that is currently not being used in a productive way.  How can I make the computer act as a WAP so I can connect my laptop?04:47
lizzie(a link to an online guide would be great)04:47
Treppidk, so ya mega diff, I thought the new graphics card made my system better haha!, it was switching from 7.10 to 8.04 kubuntu, wow amazed me hehe04:48
austinis anyone on?04:49
Jimmmmy1actually is there a way i can just update 7.10 to 8.04 without dloading a new cd ?04:49
atrus42yes...you can do it in the OS04:50
atrus42hang on04:50
Jimmmmy1ah sweet04:50
atrus42http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-to-ubuntu-804-lts-hardy-heron.html04:50
Jimmmmy1Great ill go and have a play with that now04:50
Jimmmmy1cheers mate04:50
Jimmmmy1wait... thats ubuntu, does it matter ?04:51
atrus42not really..some of the specifics may be different, but that is the guide I used04:52
Jimmmmy1ok sweet04:52
Treppidtrue, some like gnome desktop some like kde, sometimes ya feel like a nut, sometimes ya don't lol04:53
Jimmmmy1Is update manager same as adept manager ?04:55
atrus42not the same, two seperate programs, but the perform essentially the same function04:57
atrus42at least as far as I understand it04:57
Jimmmmy1might be easier if i just dload the new version04:57
atrus42you'll be fine04:58
Jimmmmy1unless i click full upgrate04:58
Treppidsrry I'm not sure bout that one, I found 5 ways on Intrepid so far to install software, 2 ior 3 ways of updateing, hope they narrow it down a bit hehe04:58
Treppidsumo-super tech!, you still here? have one tech question,05:00
faileasTreppid: they are all based on dpkg everything is just a front end ;p05:01
joshwhere do you get in to the other rooms?05:02
joshor is this just for linux?05:02
Treppidis it possible to change or add an adapter, to fit a graphics card into a improper slot on mobo? last hardware question promise ; )05:04
Treppidty faileas too ; )05:05
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treppidwith kde4 how do ya log in as root?, says I have to to run, `nvidia-xconfig` to enable the graphics accelerator software, = )05:16
atrus42do it from the login screen? or just run it su password and you are logged in root in the terminal05:18
treppidi tried to put root as my name or pass, on login screen, duh! don't know what I'm doing hehe, yes maybe terminal thank-you05:20
epimethahoy folksies05:21
epimethhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/HebrewInput05:21
epimethhow do I do this in kubuntu?05:21
epimethand is there some other way to do it in kde without using a gnome app?05:23
holycowhttp://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/09/on-kde4-performance.html05:33
holycowwrong window sorry05:33
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deadsoulsdoes anyone know of any simple text editors that can categorize files by tags?05:49
son_Hi every one. This is the first time I use Konversation06:02
smaxhi06:03
smaxi know this isn't #physics but just curious,  when one takes a piss, does air escape the penis too?  i noticed when i piss in empty plastic milk jugs, they expand.06:03
favrosmax: not exactly a kubuntu support question...06:08
surgyhello06:08
surgywhy isnt my windows installation on sda2 not showing up in my grub boot list"? and how can i fix this?06:09
favro!grub06:09
surgy!grub06:10
surgyubotu is broken?06:10
favro!bot06:12
favroseems so06:12
surgyits listed as sda506:12
surgy...06:13
surgycan you walk me through the commands?06:13
surgyi just need to edit grub.conf right? or similer?06:13
favrosurgy: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst - will let you edit the file06:18
surgywhat should be there to make windows boot?06:19
favrosurgy: I'll paste what I use and you can change that to suit your system - one min06:21
surgyfavro: thanks man06:21
favrosurgy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49182/ - you'll need to change the (hd0,0) part06:23
surgyfavro: yeah i have a question about that, my grub.lst says buntu is installed on hd0,6..... that doesnt make since to me since kubuntu says that its partition is called sda7 and my windows part is called sda506:24
surgyso how do i know what numbers to put there?06:25
favrosurgy: kubuntu counts from one - grub counts from zero - so take one off what kubuntu calls it - so (sd0,5) should work06:25
surgybut grub is calling it hd0,6 so i need to call it hdo5 ?06:27
surgyhd0,506:27
surgyill just try it and see06:28
surgyapparently hd0,5 is an invalid device06:31
surgykubuntu is on hd0,6 so maybe i should try hd0,7 ?06:32
surgysorry about that06:35
surgyyeah hd0,4 and hd0,6 both seam to be "invalid devices"06:35
surgyits two different partitions on the same hdd06:36
Colonel_Panicanybody alive in here?06:36
Colonel_PanicIm having sound card issues06:37
Colonel_PanicSound card inputs won't work06:37
Colonel_Paniccan't get Audacity to record, though it plays sound files OK06:37
surgyhow do i figure out which hd0,X my windows partition is on?06:38
surgydisks and filesystems shows the partition as sda506:38
noaXessgood morning06:38
Colonel_Panicit ought to be an FAT32  or an NTFS partition06:38
noaXesssurgy: try fdisk /dev/sda and then p06:38
Colonel_PanicI mean, filesystem06:38
Colonel_PanicnoaXess, I'm having a sound card issue06:39
Colonel_PanicSound card inputs won't work06:39
Colonel_Paniccan't get Audacity to record, though it plays sound files OK06:39
noaXessfor recording?06:39
Colonel_Panicyep06:39
noaXesswhat soundcard typ?06:39
noaXessauuo system, oss or alsa?06:39
noaXessaudio06:40
Colonel_Panicit's an old Sound Blaster Live! Value06:40
Colonel_PanicI have ALSA06:40
surgynoaXess: this is what i get http://pastebin.com/m790f344406:40
Colonel_Panichow can I be sure I don'y have OSS also?06:40
Colonel_Panic*don't*06:41
noaXessColonel_Panic: have you played around with alsamixer?..06:41
surgynoaXess: menu.lst is showing linux partition as (hd0,6)06:41
noaXesswith h in alsamixer you get a help06:41
Colonel_Panicyeah06:41
noaXessF4 for input06:41
Colonel_Panicone sec, I06:41
Colonel_Panicll post a screenshot06:41
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noaXesssurgy: i seams that you win partition is on /dev/sda5..06:42
surgynoaXess: so how do i tell what the hd0,X number is for my windows partition?06:42
noaXesswhat do you want now?06:42
noaXesssurgy: for what? grub?06:42
surgylinux is loaded with this06:43
surgyroot(hd0,6)06:43
surgyyes for grub06:43
noaXessaha06:43
noaXesshaven't seen all your questions :)06:43
surgyoh ok my bad06:43
Colonel_Panichttp://i35.tinypic.com/15r136x.png06:43
compigkde4 is slow06:43
Colonel_PanicnoaXess, any clues?06:44
noaXessColonel_Panic: press F4 for capture devices06:44
Colonel_Panicin alsamixer?06:45
surgynoaxess got any idea how i might find this out? would be awsome to get back into windows to play a game06:45
noaXessColonel_Panic: hep.. with h you got the help06:45
noaXesssurgy: just a moment..06:45
surgynoaXess: thank you06:46
Colonel_PanicWell, this screenshot exposes the problem: http://i38.tinypic.com/qn7hgn.png06:47
noaXesssurgy: not the expert in this :) but found this.. may help you http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html06:48
leftBlinkerwhats wrong with hd(0,0)?06:49
Colonel_PanicnoaXess: http://i38.tinypic.com/qn7hgn.png06:50
surgyleftBlinker: is that the one i need to be booting into to get into windows?06:50
noaXessColonel_Panic: it seams that no capture control is available .. hm..06:51
Colonel_PanicWell, I also have a shitty onboard sound system...06:51
leftBlinkerdonno, that's what I've got on my menu.lst, if you installed windows first I think it'd be that partition06:52
Colonel_PanicIs there maybe a setting I can use to enable capture with my SB Live! Value?06:52
surgyok let me try that then06:52
surgybrb if it doesnt work wish me luck :)06:52
leftBlinkergl06:52
Colonel_Panicor failing that, use the mobo's sound system for input?06:52
Colonel_PanicI know this sound card works under Windows. I used to use it in a Windows box.06:53
noaXessColonel_Panic: do a sudo lspci -vvv > lspci.log and look for you audio device...06:54
noaXessyour ^06:54
Colonel_Panicwhat does that command do? (I like to understand the tyheings I type into the command shell)06:55
Colonel_Panic... *the things*06:55
favroif there is two audio cards the onboard needs to be disabled in the bios afaik06:55
Colonel_PanicI don't think that's possible06:56
Colonel_Panicwith my BIOS06:56
Colonel_Panichowever, I did change a congiguration file (don't remember which one) to stop Linux from enabling it06:57
leftBlinkerthe ntldr thing at least06:57
Colonel_Panicdamn, my typing sucks this evening06:57
Colonel_Panicbyw, the sudo lspci -vvv > lspci.log returned *nothing*06:57
noaXessColonel_Panic: but you have now a file named lspci.log :)06:58
noaXessopen it and search for your audio device06:58
noaXess!lspci06:58
noaXesslspci lists all your pci devices.. an the option -vvv give you more detailed output information06:59
Colonel_Panicok where can I find it?07:01
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Colonel_PanicnoaXess, where can I find the lspci.log?07:04
noaXessif you run your konsle, then you start in your home dir07:06
noaXesskonsole ^07:06
noaXessit should be in your home dir07:06
Colonel_PanicnoaXess: http://www.pastebin.ca/120809307:11
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noaXessColonel_Panic: can you send the alsamixe screenshot for the playback controlers?07:16
noaXessColonel_Panic: hm.. just googling.. for linux alsa EMU10k1 capture07:19
Colonel_PanicI think07:19
Colonel_PanicI already posted that...07:20
noaXesshttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-enterprise-47/emu10k1-alsa-microphone-does-not-work-245204/07:20
noaXessto Colonel_Panic07:20
leftBlinkeri wish i was as happy as Eskobar.07:20
Colonel_Panichttp://i35.tinypic.com/15r136x.png07:20
Colonel_PanicWait... do I hit F5 to see the output devices?"07:21
favroaplay -l will show the card being used07:21
noaXessColonel_Panic: F3 playback, F4 capture, F5 all07:21
noaXessColonel_Panic: i see you have another audio device: Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)07:22
noaXessdoes this work?07:22
junkie99hello?07:26
junkie99anyone in here that can help me install ubuntu?07:27
junkie99hello?07:28
Colonel_PanicnoaXess07:28
noaXessColonel_Panic: you07:28
noaXess:)07:29
noaXessColonel_Panic: your second audio device is integrated.. habe you tried this for recording?07:29
Colonel_PanicnoaXess: I never got the input to work on it. That's the main reason I yoinked the SB card out of an old computer.07:29
junkie99ok. thanks anyway07:29
Colonel_PanicI had hoped to get the inputs working on the SB Live07:30
noaXessColonel_Panic: it shoudl work.. have also asus audio devices.. and they work07:30
noaXessi think it's only a little trick :)07:30
Colonel_Panicso what can I do to enable this device?07:30
noaXesscan you send screenshots of your kmix? all, output, input, switches,...07:31
Colonel_Panicok07:33
noaXessjunkie99: just put your unbuntu live cd in your cd/dvd and install it :)07:35
junkie99<noaXess> : tried that.. didn't work07:40
junkie99just boots up like normal07:40
noaXessjunkie99: hm.. have you changed the boot order in your bios?07:42
Colonel_PanicnoaXess:http://i34.tinypic.com/1zl42hl.png07:42
junkie99no. how would I do that?07:42
junkie99wait.. i think I know.. I'll try and come back07:43
noaXessColonel_Panic: enable the Capture control.. just a test..07:44
noaXessColonel_Panic: justs tips..07:45
noaXessColonel_Panic: in Audacity.. what settings you use? screenshot of Audio I/O07:47
noaXessColonel_Panic: earlier i had also a sound problem.. and tried to deactivate the kmix control externam amplifier..07:49
Colonel_PanicnoaXess, do I enable the Capture control in Kmix?07:59
noaXessColonel_Panic: yes08:00
Colonel_PanicWhere?08:00
noaXessi think, if you use adacity and take the rigth channel it should work..08:00
noaXesssend a screenshot of your adacity settings , audio i/o08:01
Colonel_PanicnoaXess: http://i37.tinypic.com/mcek3d.png08:03
Colonel_PanicI've tried every setting in there and none of them work.08:03
Colonel_PanicWith most of them, it says no audio device is configured, or else it starts recording but there's no signal.08:04
noaXessColonel_Panic: can you make a screenshot of the recording devices in audacity?08:05
noaXesshave you also OSS installed?08:05
Colonel_PanicDunno if OSS is installed or not.08:11
noaXessColonel_Panic: can you select oos /dev/dsp in audacity?08:15
noaXessoss ^ :)08:15
Colonel_Panicyes08:15
Colonel_Panictried it. doesn't work08:15
Colonel_Panic"Error while opening sound device"...08:16
Colonel_Panichere are my choices for input devices in Audacity:08:20
Colonel_PanicOSS: /dev/dsp08:20
Colonel_PanicALSA SBLive! Value [CT 4670]: ADC Capture/Stabdatrd PCM Playback (hw:0,0)08:20
Colonel_PanicALSA SBLive! Value [CT 4670]: Mic Capture (hw:0,1)08:20
Colonel_PanicALSA SBLive! Value [CT 4670]:Multichannel Capture/PT Playback (hw:0,2)08:20
Colonel_PanicALSA: spdif08:20
Colonel_PanicALSA: default08:20
Colonel_PanicJACK Audio Connection Kit: system08:20
Colonel_PanicI've tried using Ardour, and that doesn't work either08:21
Colonel_Panicand neither does the input for Skype08:21
noaXessColonel_Panic: hm08:22
Colonel_PanicIn Ardour, it's the same story. Sound fiules play OK but I get no signal from input08:22
Colonel_Panic*files*08:22
noaXessColonel_Panic: after use oss and get the error, have you restarted audacity? i had that to, but after restart audacity it worked08:22
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Colonel_PanicYeah, still getting the error, even after restarting. I'm going to bed. It's 2:40 here and I have an important meeting at 10 this morning.08:41
Colonel_PanicI08:41
Colonel_PanicI'll remain idle here in the channel though. Thanks for your help. I really do appreciate it.08:41
Colonel_PanicI'm thinking this is a result of some kind of configuration error in Linux.08:42
Colonel_PanicBTW I'm running Kubuntu Hardy on a 64-bit Core2Duo08:42
radovichwhat is the problem?08:45
smuxhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171097 : someone in this case ?08:58
ubottuKDE bug 171097 in general "Synchronization online IMAP account" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]08:58
vikkuHi all09:06
vikkuwhen i try to install gcc iam getting following errror http://pastebin.com/m19b3de1209:06
bittin__sudo apt-get gcc or09:07
bittin__?09:07
favrovikku: you need build-essential09:08
favro!build-essential09:08
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)09:08
favro!build-essentials09:09
favro!info build-essential09:09
ubottubuild-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB09:09
vikkufavro: i did that but still same err09:13
favrovikku: you have installed build-essential?09:15
vikkufavro: yes i did09:15
favrovikku: it might be that you don't have the kernel headers09:15
vikkuyes there were some of them missing...can you help me in this09:16
favrovikku: are you building "linux from scratch"?09:17
vikkufavro : : ) yes indeed09:17
favrovikku: I don't know if the kernel heades are right for that but - sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`09:19
vikkufavro : this thing i did last week, i did install headers that way09:19
favrovikku: you might need to ask someone in their chat about it - or read some more from the site09:20
vikkufavor : btw i have following headers installed in my box http://pastebin.com/m57d6d0aa09:22
vikkufavro: i dont think we have lfs support room anymore09:23
favrovikku: the kernel headers must be the ones for the kernel you are using now - uname -r to check what you are using09:24
vikkuhmmm09:26
ActionParsnipyo yo yo09:26
user6#kubuntu.it09:43
user6ciao09:43
user6#kubuntu-it09:44
faileasuser6: /join #kubuntu-it ;p09:44
faileasor if your using konversation, click on the channel name09:44
ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:01
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jeeb_ку10:16
jeeb_куку10:17
jeeb_куку блин10:17
favro!ru10:17
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke10:17
jeeb_пдыщ10:20
favrojeeb_: this is an english chat channel10:21
* SkEmO goes to sleep, nite!10:23
emma_hi everyone. whats the quickest and most painless method for updating hardy to intrepid?10:24
jeeb_hello all. how can i install rpm from mandriva to ubuntu?10:25
emma_i was hoping to do an update off the internet10:25
jeeb_kookoo10:28
hischildGood morning. I would like to know where i would go to configure KDE so it no longer shows all applications on the taskbar, but instead only show those that are on the current desktop.10:31
favro!intrepid | emma_10:31
ubottuemma_: Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!10:31
favro!rpm | jeeb_10:31
ubottujeeb_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)10:31
jeeb_thks10:33
emma_favro: thanks, yes i have seen that wiki page, but it doesnt tell me if i can upgrade by using --dist-upgrade or by chaning repo sources or how..10:35
favroemma_: I don't use intrepid - someone in #ubuntu+1 will know :)10:38
emma_thanks10:38
_LiNuX_how can do force quit manually?10:50
jussi01_LiNuX_: ctrl+alt+esc click on window to kill...10:51
_LiNuX_dosn't work10:52
_LiNuX_...10:52
jussi01_LiNuX_: or ctrl+esc and chose the process to kill10:52
_LiNuX_dosn't work10:53
_LiNuX_xm...10:53
favro_LiNuX_: trying to kill an app or the os10:54
_LiNuX_how i do that../10:54
_LiNuX_?10:54
_LiNuX_in windows i used Alt+Ctrl+Del10:55
jussi01_LiNuX_: so ctrl + esc doesnt bring up anything?10:55
ghostAloahe @ all10:55
_LiNuX_the only way is restart10:55
_LiNuX_jussi01:  no..10:55
jussi01_LiNuX_: are you using compiz?10:56
_LiNuX_what is that?10:56
_LiNuX_i use ubuntu10:56
_LiNuX_8.0410:56
_LiNuX_gnore10:56
jussi01desktop effects... so probably not...10:56
jussi01_LiNuX_: you use gnome?10:56
_LiNuX_yes..10:56
jussi01_LiNuX_: please head on over to #ubuntu10:56
jussi01This is the channel for kubuntu - users of kde10:57
hischildSo is it possible to have apps only show their corresponding entry on the taskbar, only on the desktop they are on?11:00
_LiNuX_whats the differend between  ubuntu and kubuntu?11:00
hischild_LiNuX_, kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses gnome.11:00
jussi01hischild: yes11:01
jussi01rightclick the taskbar, settings irrc11:01
hischildjussi01, thank you. I found it11:02
_LiNuX_what is best>?11:02
jussi01!best11:02
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.11:02
hischild_LiNuX_, depends on personal choice.11:02
jussi01hischild: no probs11:02
hischildjussi01, would you by chance know how the current compiz support is with kde?11:02
jussi01hischild: still average - new kwin is nice, cube comes in Kde 4.211:03
jussi01hischild: kde4 has its own desktop effects, so nobody is really working on compiz integration11:03
hischildjussi01, would you please repeat that? my graphics card decided to reboot.11:05
jussi01[13:03:05] <jussi01> hischild: still average - new kwin is nice, cube comes in Kde 4.211:05
jussi01[13:03:48] <jussi01> hischild: kde4 has its own desktop effects, so nobody is really working on compiz integration11:05
hischildjussi01, i see. And how would i enable / activate these desktop effects? I used gnome before yet it crashes (specifically just gnome, all other apps work) so i'm going to try KDE.11:06
jussi01hischild: on kde4?11:07
hischildjussi01, dunno, let me check11:07
hischildjussi01, yes, aptitude shows kde being at version 411:08
emilsedghSystem Settings->Desktop->Desktop Effects11:08
jussi01hischild: if you are on kde4, please head over to #kubuntu-kde411:08
hischildjussi01, oh wait, 4.1 is released? Then i am probably mistaken in my version.11:09
hischildjussi01, ah, the help shows me the correct version number. 3.5.10 is the correct one?11:10
jussi01hischild: sounds right11:11
hischildemilsedgh, by going there it says i have to install the compiz engine, however it should already be there from my gnome installation.11:11
emilsedghhischild: compiz? kde4 has no intergration with compiz11:12
hischildemilsedgh, read above please. I was mistaken in my version number.11:12
jussi01hischild: try just doing alt+f2 and: compiz --replace11:13
emilsedghhischild: you are probably on kde311:13
hischildits dinner time. Thanks anyway :-)11:13
emmaThat emma_ person who was in here earlier was not me. They were nick jacking.11:17
stdinemma: people are aloud to use any nick that's not in use, if you want to "lock" all your nicks see: /msg NickServ help set ENFORCE11:22
emmaallowed *11:23
stdinyeah, short spelling for my convenience11:23
Trollinatorhow can somebody be so fucking lazy?11:24
TrollinatorI mean, I11:24
Trollinator'm lazy, alright11:24
stdin!language | Trollinator11:24
ubottuTrollinator: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.11:24
Trollinator*yawn*11:24
Trollinatoras if families don't say fuck11:24
maupei want to print something but the printer doesn't go, why?11:46
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volohi12:00
amerigo#windows.it12:08
amerigo! windows12:08
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user1hi13:01
user1I have active 3d effects in desktop etc13:01
user1how can I configure the details of that effects (fadeing, wobbing and stuff)  what appl to install...?13:01
favrouser1: you have installed compiz?13:03
favro!ccsm13:04
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion13:04
user1favro: I think so13:04
user1I have libcompizsomething13:04
favroinstall the compiz settings manager mentioned above13:05
favro!info ccsm13:06
ubottuPackage ccsm does not exist in hardy13:06
cosmofieldIs it possible to stop the Power Manager applet to start at boot? What is the proper package name for it? :/13:06
favrocosmofield: the one on the panel? - right click it - select quit - it will ask if you want it to start at boot afaik13:07
cosmofieldNo it does'nt, it only asks if I want to shut down the power manager, I already use Kpowersave so this one (with a yellow lightning bolt on it) is uneccesary :|13:09
amerigohello13:10
amerigoa question please...13:10
amerigoin windows may be RIS "remote installation service"13:10
amerigoin kubuntu there is something13:11
amerigolike that13:11
amerigowhat is the equivalent service13:11
amerigo??????????????????????13:11
stdinif RIS does what I think, then you can ssh in and install packages from the command line13:11
jussi01!enter13:11
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!13:12
favrosomething like a pxe install?13:12
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noaXessi need qmake for build qt4 apps.. in which package is this included? i searched and found qt4-dev-tools but there is no qmake included13:13
amerigomy trouble is that i had to replace OS in a Xp machine , but i have only kubuntu that may work in this way trought the line13:13
amerigoLAN13:14
stdinnoaXess: libqt4-dev13:14
noaXessamerigo: krfb13:14
amerigonoaXess: what is for?13:14
jussi01!ssh13:15
noaXessamerigo: sorry.. wrong answer.. haven't read exactly your problem13:15
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/13:15
amerigook jussi01: but that notebook is no configurated for my LAN13:16
amerigoand I can't acces to it13:16
faileasamerigo: RIS is kinda like netinstall i guess.13:16
faileas+ using... what's that booting off network card thing called?13:17
amerigoIt start and after POST .... black screen and blinking cursor13:17
noaXessstdin: thanks.13:17
amerigofaileas: I don't understand13:18
faileasamerigo: er.. multiple things.13:19
noaXessstdin: you know ksynaptics? it's off.. now to configur my synaptics touchpad i need touchfreeze from http://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net/dl.html13:20
noaXessif i won't install all the devel tools tools to compile touchfreeze, is there another way to get a deb package for my system?13:21
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stdinnoaXess: there's only a package for intrepid now13:23
noaXessstdin: backport it?13:23
noaXessfrom touchfreeze?13:23
stdinbut ksynaptics works for me in Hardy13:23
noaXessstdin: but it's not in repos13:24
stdinoh yeah, I had it from feisty13:24
arkygeekhi all.  I am having a huge amount of trouble with direct rendering wrt googleEarth13:24
stdinnoaXess: I guess install the feisty deb then13:25
noaXessstdin: hm.. okay..13:25
arkygeek24" iMac w/ GeForce 730013:25
noaXessstdin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ksynaptics13:25
stdinnoaXess: actually, there's a package for gutsy, that'll be better13:25
stdinumm, yeah that one :p13:26
noaXessits the gutsy one.. gutsy was after feisty right?13:26
noaXessok :)13:26
noaXessstdin: what about installig the touchfreez from intrepid?13:26
arkygeekglxgears gives me 4180+ fps when run alone.  If I launch GE and try glxgears it drops to 4.9fps13:27
arkygeekany ideas?13:27
stdinnoaXess: you'll get dependency errors unless you have qt 4.4.113:28
noaXessstdin: ok..13:29
stdinnoaXess: if you have the KDE 4 ppa, then you *probably* could install it13:29
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veralex12buuu!14:10
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JuJuBeeI am trying to get multiple desktops working in kde 4, should I use ENVY to install ATI drivers?14:22
ghostcubenever use envy14:22
ghostcube:|14:22
ghostcubefor nothing14:22
JuJuBeeLike it that much eh!14:22
ghostcubeno it kills youre system14:23
ghostcubethats fact14:23
JuJuBeeK, I will stay away from it then...14:23
ghostcubejust inatll manually this must work14:23
ghostcube*install14:23
JuJuBeeWhat is the best way to install ATI drivers..14:23
ghostcubei can show u a howto14:23
ghostcubeJuJuBee: what crad is htis14:24
ghostcubebah typos14:24
JuJuBeeI have multiple desktops working with kde 3.5 but it wont work with kde 4 for some reason14:24
ghostcubehttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide14:25
Picighostcube: FYI, envy-ng is in the Hardy repositories14:25
ghostcubePici: i know i asking why14:26
ghostcubeits just shit14:26
Picighostcube: The profanity isn't needed.14:26
ghostcubePici:join cf channel pls14:26
ghostcubeand tell them about envy14:26
ghostcube:)14:26
ghostcubebetter dont do so we have the trouble in support not u here14:26
ghostcubeso i say envy !! NO!!!14:27
ghostcubethtas it14:27
PiciAnd the -ng version is acceptable enough to be included in the repos.  I'd personally use it as a last resort if the restricted drivers fail to work.14:27
ghostcubejust install manually no need for script14:27
ghostcubethtas fact14:27
JuJuBeeHow do I install restricted drivers?14:28
PiciInstalling manually causes issues with kernel upgrades.14:28
ghostcubePici: ever used envy and tried to change anything or u got a destroyed glx ?14:28
PiciJuJuBee: Run jockey-kde14:28
ghostcubeso join compiz-fusion and just look14:28
ghostcubenot more14:28
ghostcubeu will see the probs then14:29
JuJuBeePici : no proprietary drivers in use.14:29
PiciJuJuBee: Anything listed as being available?14:29
JuJuBeePici : I tried DL'ing them from ATI and installing, but that did not fix the problem.14:30
JuJuBeeNo...14:30
PiciJuJuBee: How new is your card?14:30
JuJuBeeOld... 9600 Mobility14:30
JuJuBeeLaptop14:30
ghostcubeso no need for the fglrx14:30
ghostcubejust try the ati driver from xorg14:30
ghostcubemuch faster on that card14:31
JuJuBeeare you saying dl from xorg or in repo's?14:31
ghostcubejust change in xorg.conf to ati14:31
ghostcubeits shiped by xorg14:31
JuJuBeeChange this line...  Driver      "fglrx"  TO...14:33
JuJuBeeDriver      "ATI"14:33
ghostcubeJuJuBee: pls read the howto i gave u14:33
ghostcubeto revert to the xorg drivers first14:33
ghostcubehttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide14:33
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ActionParsnipyo yo yo14:36
JuJuBeeghostcube : do  you suggest the Ubuntu way or the manual way?14:37
ghostcubeJuJuBee: just remove the fglrx ones14:40
ghostcubeits down the page14:40
ghostcubeand change to the ati ones14:41
ghostcubeu dont need fgrlx14:41
JuJuBeeAre you referring to Removing Mesa Drivers?14:43
deamoon who knowhow it works  vsftpd???14:46
deamooni installed it14:46
deamoonbut cant find anywere14:46
deamoon:D14:46
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lulfishSo if this IRC channel looks like nobody is talking, is nobody talking, or am I doing something wrong?15:00
faileasyes15:01
lulfish...15:01
* genii puts on coffee15:01
geniilulfish: You're fine. It's just quiet here at the moment15:02
deamoonmost off the time is like thaty15:04
lulfishok15:05
* genii hands out large Kubuntu mugs of delicious coffee15:06
faileaslulfish: you asked a or question. also as long as you don't ping out if you don't see anything happening nothing is happening15:06
miklosanybody could recomend a sofrware for gprs?15:20
Tm_Tkppp15:20
miklosok15:20
Tm_Tand/or networkmanager15:20
miklosworks with mobilphone?15:21
Tm_Tyes15:21
miklosthanx15:21
miklosI"ll try15:22
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BluesKajhowdy15:46
baudthiefhello15:47
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BluesKajhey Tm_T, I just dropped in for a few mins to see how thinhs are going.15:48
Tm_TBluesKaj: same here (:)15:48
BluesKajerr things15:48
BluesKaj:)15:48
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surgyhello16:05
surgycan someone please tell me how to figure out a particular partition id ? IE: (HD0,1)16:05
s0101Hi16:07
surgyanyone ?16:08
s0101when i try to update my system i recive a error message that the index is old16:08
geniisurgy: Something like: grub   hd0,0=/dev/sda1    hd0,1=/dev/sda2       hd1,0=/dev/sdb1  hd2,2=/dev/sdc316:10
s0101http://pastebin.com/m5631927616:11
surgygenii: umm yeah, but how would i figure out which hd0,x corresponds with what sda?16:11
geniis0101: Are you doing something like:    sudo apt-get update16:11
s0101the first time i had this problem was after i installed ie4 in wine to get active x towork and then i changed someting in the update file16:11
geniisurgy: hd0,0=sda1 hd0,1=sda2 hd0,2=sda3 hd0,3=sda4   and so on. Notice the trend in numbering16:12
s0101i have tryed all the ways to update16:12
s0101same everywere16:12
surgyok fdisk -l shows that my ntfs partition is on sda5 so therefor it should be partition hd0,4 for grub right?16:13
geniisurgy: Yes16:14
surgyok let me see if i can boot into that16:14
surgybrb if it doesnt work16:14
geniis0101: Since it seems to be a wine/ie4 complication which caused this, perhaps ask them in #winehq about it16:14
s0101some index files could not be dowloaded, they have been ignored or not be able to be connected due to network problem, an older version of the index will be used if its possible if not it will be ignred16:14
s0101translated from swedish16:15
s0101ignored16:15
Picis0101: Are you on irc from the same computer that is having an issue?16:15
Picis0101: Oh... nevermind. I see the issue16:16
s0101it tells me to check the adress in the storage (yes i am on the same computer my network is working perfekt)16:16
Picis0101: Edgy is no longer supported16:16
Pici!edgy16:16
ubottuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) was the fifth release of Ubuntu. It is now in end of life, and is unsupported. Please upgrade to a newer release.16:16
s0101i have hardy heron 8,0416:16
Picis0101: Can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?16:17
Pici!paste16:17
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:17
zarlinohi all16:18
zarlinoi just read this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuReleaseSchedule16:18
zarlinois it for real?16:19
s0101what is the command from the terminal?16:19
s0101to /etc/apt/sources.list16:19
s0101i tried with sudo /etc/apt/sources.list16:19
Picis0101: less /etc/apt/sources.list16:19
Picis0101: its a file, not a command16:19
zarlinois kubuntu really planning to change the release cycle?16:19
s0101http://pastebin.com/m3f91e65316:20
s0101check pastebinm16:20
surgyok i tried booting windows using the hd0,1 and hd0,4 partition and neither seam to work16:21
s0101wait i missed sorry16:21
s0101i send again16:21
Picis0101: okay16:22
s0101i belive this line is the problem deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main they told me to add that before when i wanted to get ie4 and wine to work16:23
surgywhen i enter the command fdisk -l i receave this (http://pastebin.com/m3e30aebe) and this is my grub/menu.lst (http://pastebin.com/m21503a61) can someone help me make it so that i can boot into my windows partition?16:25
s0101how can i edit /etc/apt/sources.list16:28
s0101?16:28
surgykdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list16:28
surgywhen i enter the command fdisk -l i receave this (http://pastebin.com/m3e30aebe) and this is my grub/menu.lst (http://pastebin.com/m21503a61)) can someone help me make it so that i can boot into my windows partition?16:29
s0101still get this error when i update16:30
s0101Misslyckades med att hämta http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]16:30
s0101Vissa indexfiler kunde inte hämtas, de har ignorerats eller så har de gamla använts istället.16:30
s0101could not get the index file16:31
Tm_Twhy you use us mirror?16:31
Picis0101: Can you pastebin the entire /etc/apt/sources.list file16:31
Picis0101: And can you tell me if ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  reports anything?16:31
s0101http://pastebin.com/m568397ff16:32
_2dapper question, howto get flash working in konqueror ?16:33
s0101how can i acces the second one from terminal?16:33
s0101ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?16:33
Piciyes16:34
Picis0101: remove line 56 (the last line) from /etc/apt/sources.list16:34
surgya guy just told me that my problem is that my swap partition is at the beginning of my drive and it needs to be deleted and moved to the end of my drive, does this sound genuine? or more like bs? and also how would i go about doing this if it is in fact genuine?16:35
s0101thank you16:35
s0101it solved it i removed 1 line before that but i forgot that line16:36
surgyumm i need help16:41
surgywhen i enter the command fdisk -l i receave this (http://pastebin.com/m3e30aebe) and this is my grub/menu.lst (http://pastebin.com/m21503a61))) can someone help me make it so that i can boot into my windows partition?16:41
geniisurgy: Your windows install was on "Drive D:" or "Drive C:" ?   Because you have 2 windows partitions there, a fat32 and an ntfs16:44
robhello everybody16:44
surgygenii well i dont know where the fat32 part came from but the biggest partition is where winxp is16:44
robanybody know how to fix this? The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.16:45
robapt-setup or apt-get update doesn't work16:46
ahoxrob, it actually should tell you in the error message what to run16:46
ahoxsomething like dpkg --reconfigure16:46
geniisurgy: the 0,4 should be right for sda5. Have you tried to boot into the other one? 0,3 or so16:46
surgygenii: i have tried 0,0 through 0,716:47
mifaunahello16:47
surgygenii: i was told that im having this problem becuase my swap is at the beginning of my harddrive instead of at the end16:47
ahoxrob: sry, try dpkg-reconfigure -a\]16:47
geniisurgy: I think there may be some issue of loading an os from an extended partition16:47
ahoxrob: sry, try dpkg-reconfigure -a16:47
geniisurgy: It should not matter at all where the swap is16:48
surgygenii: i didnt think sop16:48
surgyso*16:48
surgygenii: so how do i fix my windows?16:48
geniisurgy: Did you move the wondows partition from some other place?16:49
surgyno16:49
geniiwondows->windows16:49
surgygenii: i started with a 500 gb hdd, i then split it for win2k and then install winxp on the other part and have recently replaced win2k with kubuntu16:49
robheres what it gives me: rob@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a16:50
rob * Disabling power management...                                         [ OK ]16:50
rob * Checking battery state...                                             [ OK ]16:50
rob * Stopping ACPI services...                                             [ OK ]16:50
rob * Stopping Hardware abstraction layer hald                              [ OK ]16:50
rob * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ OK ]16:50
rob * Starting ACPI services...                                             [ OK ]16:50
rob * Starting Hardware abstraction layer hald                              [ OK ]16:50
robdebconf: DbDriver "templatedb": could not write /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat-new: No space left on device16:50
robrob@ubuntu:~$16:50
robno space left on device it says ive got 10.2 gbs left16:51
geniiGah16:51
surgy!pastbin || rob16:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin16:51
surgy!paste || rob16:51
ubottu| rob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:51
geniisurgy: What exact message you get (possibly from Grub) when trying 0,4 ?16:52
geniirob: Your /var  partition is full16:52
surgygenii:  mind if i go get that for you reasl quick?16:52
geniisurgy: Sure, I'm here all day16:53
cosmofieldHi, how do I use visudo? I can access the sudoers file as root but I can't insert any text :|16:53
surgybrb16:53
robok sorry about the flooding16:53
robso the /var is full? is there anyway i can increase size of it?16:54
robthis kubuntu 8.04 that I am running is is installed by wubi and is installed into a file in windows xp.16:56
surgygenii: the error message when trying to boot from (hd0,4) is as follows: "Error 12: invalid device requested"16:57
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geniirob: I'm not familiar with the inner workings of Wubi. There must be some way to increase the size of it however.16:59
geniisurgy: OK16:59
faddat1I need to make a launcher menu for a computer designed for the elderly.  Is there a launcher application in KDE that I can configure to launch 4 applications, or should I make one on my own?16:59
faddat1basically I need to have a menu that allows users to launch applications by pressing the 1-9 keys, for example, press 1 to check your e-mail, press 2 to use the Internet, etc....17:00
faddat1brb (toilet... feel free to PM me or e-mail me at faddat@gmail.com)17:01
geniisurgy: What says it when using 0,1    ?17:02
surgylol let me check :)17:03
rob$sudo apt-get clean this command worked but only freed up 550 MB17:03
geniirob: You can usually also remove a lot of the archived logs in /var/log17:03
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robadept now works again woooohoooo!17:04
robthank you17:04
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* genii hands surgy a coffee17:08
surgygenii: same error "Error 12: invalid device requested"17:08
geniisurgy: OK17:08
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Pu7otwo quick questions17:09
Pu7oin KDE 4, is it possible to change the taskbar to a color other than black?17:09
surgyPu7o: you can do that in kde 317:10
geniisurgy: The "Partition table entries are not in disk order" in your pastebin of fdisk result seems interesting but not sure it is related17:10
Pu7o...which is why I'm asking for KDE 417:10
Tm_TPu7o: try #kubuntu-kde417:10
Pu7othanks17:10
surgygenii:  you think there might be some credit in what that one guy was saying about my swap being at the begging of my hdd?17:11
geniisurgy: I still think it's unlikely that would cause any grief. I've put swap at beginning many times without incident17:12
surgygenii: ok17:12
surgy"17:13
surgy12 : Invalid device requested17:13
surgyThis error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors.17:13
surgygenii: does my grub even look good to you?17:15
surgygenii: my menu.lst i mean17:15
geniisurgy: Yes the menu.lst syntax looks fine.17:16
geniisurgy: Since the sda2 partition seems to take the entire disk I believe the other partitions are extended17:17
genii1-60800(sda2)   encompasses all the others for instance17:17
o0Chris0o_!kde17:18
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde417:18
surgygenii: ok....17:18
surgygenii: googles not being very nice today17:18
surgy!msg17:19
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.17:19
o0Chris0o_got to be nice to google for it to be nice to you :D17:19
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surgyyeah im not finding anything with a simaler solution17:25
o0Chris0owhat problem are you having?17:26
surgygrub error 1217:26
o0Chris0ohmm not really familiar with grub17:26
surgycant seam to figure out how to load my ntfs partition with grub, either that or im doing it right and theres another [problem17:26
o0Chris0o!grub17:27
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto17:27
o0Chris0otried those?17:27
o0Chris0othe second link17:28
ubuntu_hola alguien me puede ayudar com ubuntu?17:28
ubuntu_encerio necesito ayuda.. T.T17:28
o0Chris0o!sp17:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sp17:28
ubuntu_quiero instalarlo pero formatie sin querer mi disco duro T.T17:28
Tm_T!es17:29
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:29
surgyyeah17:29
surgyi guess im just going to have to format all of my partitions and start over...... :(17:30
joshI was running Suse 11 and my USB Mouse & Keyboard just stopped working...17:30
joshis there anyway i can fix this with a command?17:30
surgy!suse17:30
ubottuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)17:30
ubuntu_yes :( format mi particion17:30
joshsurgy, i had no choice but to come into that IRC17:31
joshsurgy, since my USB Mouse and Keyboard went idk where else to go...17:31
joshim on Kubuntu KDE 3.5 right17:31
joshnow*17:31
ubuntu_yes.. :(17:31
joshjust hoping one of you guys might have some experience with Suse 1117:31
ubuntu_Cd Boot not instalation T.t17:32
o0Chris0ojosh try #suse ;D17:32
josh#suse17:32
joshwoops17:32
BluesKajsurgy,check you grub menu and look for windows chaim=nloader17:32
ubuntu_Cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!17:32
BluesKajerr chainloader17:32
ubuntu_Ok ..17:32
ubuntu_:(17:32
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surgyjosh didnt mean to be rude just unfamiliar with suse, was17:33
o0Chris0osame here17:33
surgyjust asking ubotu what iot was17:33
ubuntu_no men ... :/17:33
surgyBluesKaj: my menu.lst has chainloader set to +1 for windows on hd0,117:33
BluesKajbtw, changing linux OS's isn't going to solve your grub menu problem17:33
ubuntu_speak spanish?17:33
stdin!es | ubuntu_17:34
ubottuubuntu_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:34
BluesKajsurgy, post it on pastebin...lets have a look17:34
surgyBluesKaj: i was thinking that it was a partitioning problem..17:34
BluesKaj!pastebin17:35
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:35
josh!pastbin17:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin17:35
jim88hi all ... can someone tell me if they have experienced a problem printing legal size on the HP1505n printer?17:35
josh!pastebin17:35
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:35
surgyhttp://pastebin.com/m11b878b717:35
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geniisurgy: I think the problem is thus: sda2 contins all the extended partitions of sda5 sda6 sda7. So in this scenario sda2 is what has the OSes on it. So grub wants hd0,1 for sda2. But within sda2 on the secand section of it is where the actual OS you want is. But there is not really a way to specify to Grub hd0,1,a      or such17:36
surgysomething like map (sda2) (hd0,1) perhaps?17:37
surgyBluesKaj: you might also have a look at this http://pastebin.com/m133c629617:38
geniisurgy: I believe map is just to change the order of drives in a software based way from in grub, not to sub-map partitons onto an existing partition17:39
surgygenii: oh :(17:39
surgyBluesKaj: when i select the windows option in the grub menu to boot into windows i receave this error " Error 12: invalid device requested"17:40
BluesKajwow surgy , you've got quite set of partitions there ..dunno what to tell you ..it looks abit busy17:47
surgyBluesKaj: yeah17:51
surgyBluesKaj: thats why i was saying that im just going to have to delete every partition and start from scratch17:52
phitooHello! I'm trying to run kubuntu intrepid alpha 5, but I can't login because kdm has "no greeter widget plugin loaded". Is there a work around?17:52
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Tm_TDuGi: hi you're there?18:10
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florin91hello18:15
o0Chris0o!hi | florin9118:15
ubottuflorin91: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:15
florin91how i start kde or gnome ? to choose between ?18:15
o0Chris0o!dual18:16
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dual18:16
o0Chris0o!dualboot18:16
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot18:16
florin91i know it was a command but i dont remember anymore18:17
florin91and i didn`t said any thing about windows dual boot18:18
florin91i said about desktop managers18:18
florin91kde and gnome18:18
florin91now i have installed both kde and gnome and kde is starting18:19
florin91i want to put gnome default18:19
stdinflorin91: just select the option from the login manager18:21
florin91hmm there isn`t an option to write in terminal ?18:22
florin91when I see the login part, I see big and not all screen (resolution problems)18:23
florin91hmm there isn`t an option to write in terminal ?18:26
florin91 when I see the login part, I see big and not all screen (resolution problems)18:26
stdinI would say use "startx" then "startkde" or "gnome-session", but startx will probably start gnome or KDE anyway18:26
florin91 in the terminal ?18:32
stdinyes18:32
florin91just startx simple ?18:32
florin91X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.18:33
florin91Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console18:33
florin91or18:34
florin91X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 018:34
florin91Fatal server error:18:34
florin91Server is already active for display 018:34
florin91If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock18:34
florin91and start again.18:34
Tm_T!paste | florin9118:34
ubottuflorin91: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:34
Agent_bobsomeone have static ip setup ?   can you help me out with setting the default gateway ?18:34
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Agent_bobis the keyword in /etc/network/interfaces "gateway" ?18:35
stdinAgent_bob: yeah18:36
Agent_bobstdin is the iface line as simple as   iface eth0    ?18:37
stdinAgent_bob: something like "iface eth0 inet static"18:38
Agent_bobstdin i'm just not very familear with the syntax...    ty.18:38
stdinI haven't had to mess with it for a while, so most of this is from memory18:38
stabbeWhat is the name of the ati driver, cant seem to find it?18:38
Agent_bobyeah me too.      i'm going to test.18:38
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Agent_bob!ati | stabbe18:39
ubottustabbe: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:39
stabbethank you18:39
stdinstabbe: use the Hardware Drivers Manager, from KMenu -> System18:39
o0Chris0owhich gfx cards are very linux friendy?18:39
o0Chris0ofriendly*18:39
stdinintel is probably the best, but that's not technically a "card"18:40
stdinafter that I'd say nVidia18:40
o0Chris0ocool, I got another question, gonna have to go to kde4 now :D18:40
joshokay nvm ....18:41
joshnvm18:41
joshwell ima give suse another try....18:42
YukiHello18:52
YukiAnyone here?18:56
FalahOut of curiosity, Pidgin 2.5.1 has been out since Aug 31, any reason it hasn't made it to the repos?18:57
oobe_does anyone know how to make xchat reconnect automatically if i get disconnected18:58
YukiThis is a real stupid question, but where can I download the latest version of kubuntu to put on a cd to install it on another laptop? Don't want this laptop to be formatted :P19:00
stdinYuki: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download19:02
YukiAnd it just downloads to a file or something so I can burn a cd?19:03
deamoonAny Lithuanian geeks here? :D19:05
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HK_Away...19:09
Tm_THK_Away: please don't use awaynick19:09
HK_Awayright19:09
Tm_Tor other public away methods19:09
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mifaunahello19:18
xbxbxbdoes hotplugging an USB device work even before I login and KDE starts? that is, does udev create block devices for it in /dev before I login with my user name?19:21
geniixbxbxb: iDEALLY THATS HOW IT WORKS, YES19:33
geniiBah capslock19:33
xbxbxbgenii:  thanks19:33
geniinp19:34
xbxbxbis there a reason you said 'ideally'? :) doesn't it work in "real life"?19:34
geniixbxbxb: Some usb devices don't always recognise properly if plugged in during poweron/bootup but only if plugged in afterwards19:36
xbxbxbgenii: hmm I see... to give a little more context, I'd like to share my home folder with two PCs I have that both run (k)ubuntu. And I want to share it on an external USB harddrive that is encrypted. The only way to get it work so far is to login as root before and decrypt & mount the drive, then login with my normal user name.19:38
xbxbxbDo you have a better approach?19:38
xbxbxba lot of people told me that it's not a problem to share a home folder in that way, but the root-logging in is getting on my nerves19:39
GatunoxDhola19:40
geniixbxbxb: Nothing immediate comes to mind19:41
xbxbxbgenii:  do you think my approach/idea is bad in any way?19:41
phitooHello! I'm trying to run kubuntu intrepid alpha 5 (dist-upgrade from hardy), but I can't login because kdm has "no greeter widget plugin loaded". Is there a work around?19:41
tobor_Hi all - just noticed when I try to cd to a dir thats not there, my bash shell seems to try to find the closests match and changes to that dir?  Can anyone tell me where this gets initialized/eneabled/setup?19:48
tobor_*closest19:49
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geniiback19:55
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geniixbxbxb: I previously ran two separate installs of linux sharing a common /home which created problems19:56
xbxbxbgenii:  what kind of problems? solvable?20:01
RichardBHhi20:04
RichardBHi uninstalled a load of kde4 stuff to save space (anything with kde4 in the package name) but now none of my windows in kde3 have a title bar?20:05
RichardBHis there an easy way to fix this?20:06
geniixbxbxb: It was on a networked drive and when attempting to run both (from different boxes) would cause problems of file locking, especially on firefox. Also when switching between two linuxes on same box having a shared swap area was causing other probs especially when not clean shutting down20:08
geniiApologies on lag, work is requiring me here often20:08
geniiRichardBH: Perhaps you accidentally removed kdelibs4    which is actually for kde3 and not kde4 (kdelibs5 is for kde4)20:09
RichardBHgenii: that sounds horribly familiar20:09
RichardBHoh no, it says its installed20:09
geniiRichardBH: You could sort of "refresh" the regular kde3 install by something like       sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop20:11
geniiRichardBH: So that if anything got wiped out accidentally it *should* reinstall those parts20:11
RichardBHah, thankyou20:12
RichardBHi htought something like that might work, but I wasnt sure which package needed reinstalling20:12
RichardBHlets try - brb20:13
geniiRichardBH: Also, in Compiz this sometimes happens of the missing maximize/minimize/close bar but in that case is usually the window decorator neds reloading20:13
xbxbxbgenii:  no reason to apologize, work has priority. and thanks for your input.20:14
xbxbxbgenii:  so the problems only came up when running both at the same time?20:14
geniixbxbxb: Yes, in that case. Except that I also mistakenly thought having them use same swap partition would be OK which it wasn't20:14
genii(when installed on same box)20:15
RichardBHno luck :(20:15
xbxbxboh ok, genii20:16
geniiRichardBH: Also, in Compiz this sometimes happens of the missing maximize/minimize/close bar but in that case is usually the window decorator neds reloading20:16
andriijashow do i make an application launch upon login on kde?20:16
RichardBHgenii - i can use kwin --replace to give me my bars back20:16
RichardBHbut i have to do it everytime i login20:17
geniiRichardBH: It's a Compiz issue then20:17
xbxbxbgenii:  I'm using compiz and I noticed that, too. what do I have to do to get my title bar back?20:17
dragon200how do yo do?20:18
RichardBHgenii - bearing in mind i dont have compiz, how can i stop it trying to be there?20:18
geniiFor the Compiz no title bar thing I usually do: alt-f2  kde-window-decorator --replace        <- RichardBH and xbxbxb20:18
xbxbxbthanks20:19
stefan__heyho, i've installed the package kubuntu-desktop and when i start a session with KDE, ther comes the this failure: "Call to lnuser Temp failed (temporary directories full?) Check your installation." what ist the problem?20:19
geniiRichardBH: If you don't want it to load compiz, make sure kwin is the window manager and that session saving is on, then do a logoff. Then logon again and set session saving off and it will always come up to how you left it when you exited the time it was set to save your settings.20:20
geniistefan__: That indicates you don't have permissions to read or write in your home directory.Did you chmod or chown something there recently??20:23
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stefan__sorry my english is not so good, i dont understand your question totaly20:25
RichardBHgenii - i installed compiz again, enabled the desktop effects and then disabled them and its working now - thanks20:26
geniistefan__: If for instance the user name you use to login is "fred"     then the directory /home/fred      and all it's contents should belong to fred20:31
stefan__jear, that is so20:32
geniistefan__: eg: my username is "user"  so when I do command:    ls -l ~           I get this result: http://pastebin.com/m1767bd5420:34
stefan__i get the same result20:36
Tm_Twrrooooom hi PhilRod20:37
MetaMorfoziSHi all20:38
geniistefan__: Also there should be a result like: drwx------ 6 user user 4096 2008-09-22 09:35 kdecache-user                    for command: ls -ld /var/tmp/*$(whoami)20:38
MetaMorfoziSi'm on khardy, and the usermanagement disappeared from kcontrol20:38
MetaMorfoziShow can i get it back?20:39
geniistefan__: I still believe it may be some item or file further down in the directory structure of your home directory20:44
genii(which is not owned by you)20:44
sumo_suhmmm is it normal that my main linux partition (the one i'm using) is not mounted in the fstab?20:44
geniistefan__: I would suggest if for instance the username is "fred"  :    sudo chown -hR fred:fred /home/fred20:45
geniisumo_su: If the /   (root directory) does not get mounted it is unlikely your system will even come up at all.20:46
geniiMetaMorfoziS: install (or reinstall) package called kde-guidance20:47
geniibah, they left a moment before help arrived20:48
PhilRodheya Tm_T!20:49
Tm_Thi hi son20:49
PhilRodjust off to get dinner - catch you in a bit20:49
Tm_Thave a good meal20:49
matt90can anyone suggest a good guide to linux commands?20:51
matt90most of the books I've seen are a bit basic20:51
sumo_sugenii: the funny thing is that it does come up:)  I will reboot and check again...20:52
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miujini habe fixed the problem20:54
matt90no?20:55
geniimatt90: A web page with some of the most useful ones to remember http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml20:55
blackflagHello all :) How can I rename my eth1 to eth0? I found in google something about "iftab". But I dont have such file on my system. Can someone help?20:55
matt90cheers genii20:56
geniiblackflag: Those values are inside the udev system. 1 minute I'll find the file20:57
sumo_suhmm doesnt look mounted in the fstab20:58
geniiblackflag: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules            is the file. It assigns ethX names based on mac address20:58
geniisumo_su: Caould you pastebin the fstab?20:59
geniibleh typos20:59
Tm_Tgenii: more coffee?20:59
geniiTm_T: Probably could use it :)20:59
Tm_Theh20:59
geniimiujin: Good to hear it is solved.21:00
leumascan sum1 help wit dis issue;any tym i close dolphin, it pops up an error msg:unable to save bookmarks in \home\leumas\.kde\share\apps\d3lphin\bookmarks.xml.reported error was permission denied.wat do i do?21:02
sumo_sugenii: http://pastie.org/27727821:03
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sumo_sumy install is in sda3 (flagged as boot drive)21:04
geniiReading21:04
geniisumo_su: Thats pretty unusual.21:05
geniisumo_su: When you issue only command:   mount        what does it say is /     ?21:06
geniileumas: sudo shown -hR leumas:leumas \home\leumas\.kde21:07
sumo_sujust mount? it tells me hmmm... stuff.21:08
geniileumas: And in future do not do things like:   sudo dolphin21:08
leumasgenii: shud i run dat in konsole?21:09
geniileumas: Run the              sudo shown -hR leumas:leumas \home\leumas\.kde                 in Konsole, yes21:09
geniisumo_su: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)             on my box is the relevant line for instanc e21:10
leumasgenii: this is wat i got: sudo: shown: command not found21:12
sumo_sugenii: strange that it works nicely without being mounted21:12
geniileumas: not shown      chown21:15
blackflagcool, rebooting did it! thanks!!21:16
geniileumas: My error21:16
geniileumas: Run the              sudo chown -hR leumas:leumas \home\leumas\.kde                 in Konsole, yes21:16
geniileumas: I just corrected the typo for you there so you could cut and paste it21:16
leumasgenii: tanx21:17
geniiblackflag: np... I had this same issue when I swapped out an adapter before and it puzzled me a long time21:17
blackflag:) yes!21:19
sumo_sugenii: thanks for your help i'm gonna check what happens when i mount it21:19
geniiAFK work needs me a few minutes at least21:20
leumasgenii: chown: cannot access `homeleumas.kde': No such file or directory21:22
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Finswimmerhello, today i have installed 8.04. i want to have firefox 3.0.1 with portogues (brasil). but it does not work. i have installed mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-br and ubufox and the language switcher, and the language package from mozilla (the xpi one)21:31
Finswimmeris here some active? or is it a problem of mine irc?21:48
Tm_Twe are just in idle mode21:49
Finswimmerhmm. ok ;)21:49
geniileumas: sudo chown -hR leumas:leumas \home\leumas\.kde              please note the \ between home and leumas21:53
alebocohi guys, i recently changed repositories leaving on only security and recommended and excluding backports and updates. is there any way to roll back the system?21:55
geniialeboco: You may have file /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list     on your system. IOf so you can use it as a new starting point22:00
avinashhi22:00
avinashhi all22:01
avinashi am new to this.22:01
alebocogenii, my sources.list is ok i believe. i just believe i still have installed the versions from backports22:01
avinashcan anyone plz help me to explain more about this22:01
alebocogenii, i thought the system will roll back changing the repositories22:01
alebocociao ragazzi, nessuno sta avendo problemi con la scheda intel ipw2200? dopo uno degli ultimi aggiornamenti del kernel a me sembra come impazzitsa22:06
trappist!it22:07
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)22:07
alebocosorry, i thought i was in the italian channel22:07
geniialeboco: Then comment out backports lines in sources.list, re-add the usual universe ones or so. Then do an update. Then find policies on a package with    apt-cache policy packagename      which shows you what ver is installed and what vers are available and in what repos they reside. To revert to a specific version use    sudo apt-get install packagename=specificversionhere    where specificversionhere     is the one from result of apt-cache policy result22:09
geniiwhich resides in repository of universe or so and not from backports22:09
Finswimmeris there something in kubuntu that overrides the language option made in firefox 3.0.1 because in "about firefox" there is "pt" printed, but it is still in german. *very-confusing*22:11
sparr_wAre there any services like GoToMyPC or LogMeIn that work from a windows client to a linux target? I need remote desktop access of the client-server-client variety. I cannot initiate a connection to either end, so [anything over] [reverse] ssh is not an option. I cannot create network adapters on the windows end, so LogMeIn Hamachi won't work.22:13
thiblahuteHi,22:15
thiblahuteI would like to get some help to get an kde4 development environment with ubuntu intrepid22:15
thiblahuteI would like to use Kdevelop, (305)22:16
jussi01thiblahute: try asking in #ubuntu+122:16
K`zanNot sure this is the right place for this, but what in hell is: "hiJavaScript"?22:23
genii!freenx | sparr_w22:30
ubottusparr_w: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX22:30
sparr_wgenii: that does not help at all.22:32
sparr_wi dont need vnc/freenx/remotex/anythinglikethat22:32
sparr_wi can do all that myself22:32
sparr_wmy problem is the network connection itself22:32
Dragonathhow do I add an user to a group?22:42
DekansDragonath: in the users utility you must have this possibility22:43
Dekanssudo adduser $LOGNAME vboxusers  ==> to add the current user to the vboxusers group22:44
DragonathDekans: heh, using a graphical interface didn't occur to me :)22:44
Dekansso you just have to adapt this command22:45
Dragonathok thanks22:45
chemist109The gui way to add a user is with "kuser".  It's a good little application, but it isn't installed by default.  Just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kuser22:46
chemist109^^^^^^^ I meant add a user to a group22:47
Dragonathok, thanks for that too, though don't really see a need for a GUI when the command is so simple :)22:47
DragonathI have to logout for a second now brb22:47
ubuntu_i have an issue22:53
ubuntu_im trying to reinstall kubuntu cause the screen is too streched and it looks like its messed22:54
ubuntu_im trying to reinstall fromt he cd and it boots up the same way22:54
ubuntu_should i even bother reinstalling?22:54
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ubuntu_???22:57
ubuntu_no hlp22:57
ubuntu_help*?22:57
Denisenobody helps here22:58
Denisethey just mix up people22:58
ubuntu_thats usfull22:58
BluesKajso why are you here Denise ?22:59
DeniseI m lost22:59
ubuntu_ye same here22:59
ubuntu_cause i dont know how to use this22:59
ubuntu_and what to do22:59
ubuntu_:S22:59
BluesKajubuntu , maybe you should check your video drivers/card in system settings/monitor & display23:00
ubuntu_i did already23:00
ubuntu_and now when i boot from the cd its the same thing23:00
ubuntu_the image is messed streched i cant even see start menu23:00
BluesKajdid you try to change the resolution  /23:01
BluesKaj>23:01
ubuntu_yep23:01
ubuntu_every thing23:01
BluesKajfrom what to what ?23:01
arthur_hello23:01
ubuntu_i checked monitor i checked settings23:02
ubuntu_i even tried installing driver23:03
ubuntu_then i installed this program called envmy23:03
ubuntu_or what ever for ati23:03
ubuntu_and now its messed more it works slow it lags23:03
ubuntu_aside from half of the screen not thtere23:03
ubuntu_great hes gone to23:07
|dthacker|Hi.  My 7.10 desktop is having problems.  When I boot, I get the initial splash screen, then I get a set of vertical bars and a frozen cursor instead of the login screen.   I can boot the system off on the 7.10 kubuntu live CD.   What can I do to diagnose and fix?23:08
EagleScreeni am configuring a ftp server, now anonymous users can neter to it, but cannot see any file23:13
EagleScreeni am using vsftpd23:13
alperhi guys I am having wifi problem with 8.04.1 it's a fresh install I have the wifi led on but I can't see any networks in the netwowrk manager23:14
phitooHello! I'm trying to run kubuntu intrepid alpha 5, but I can't login because kdm has "no greeter widget plugin loaded". Is there a work around?23:14
LeeJunFanalper: do you know what your wireless interface name is? ie. wlan0, eth0, ath0?23:14
alperwlan023:15
alperLeeJunFan: wlan0 is the iwconfig output23:16
LeeJunFanalper: do you see any networks when you run 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan' ?23:17
LeeJunFanfrom konsole23:17
alperLeeJunFan: no I get "no scan results"23:18
LeeJunFanalper: do you know what chipset your card is? 'lspci | grep Ethernet'23:19
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alperLeeJunFan: I just right-clicked Knetworkmanager icon I can see my network and one other but still no scan results with iwlist23:20
LeeJunFandoes iwconfig only show one interface when you run it? atheros cards will show wlan0 and ath0.23:21
rightBlinkerHi, anyone uses the Roger's isp?  In their webmail system you can paste pictures and resize them.  Like in a word processor.   That's awesome.  Is it Firefox s doing?  or GWT or something?   Can you scale images with non flash ajax methods?23:21
alperLeeJunFan: lspci output is 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)23:21
LeeJunFanalper: only that one line? hrm.23:21
alperLeeJunFan: yea that's it23:22
LeeJunFanthat's just lan.23:22
LeeJunFannot wlan.23:22
LeeJunFanalper: how is your wireless connected to your machine?23:22
alperit's a notebook I have broadcom bcm431823:23
LeeJunFanalper: okay, here you go....23:23
LeeJunFan!broadcom > alper23:23
ubottualper, please see my private message23:23
LeeJunFanoops, meant to use | not >.23:23
|dthacker|!repair xwindows23:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about repair xwindows23:24
LeeJunFan|dthacker|: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg23:24
|dthacker|LeeJunFan: how do I get past the point where the boot freezes?23:25
zeelothey guys, have ubuntu 64bit installed few days ago but my svn gui clients (yes all of them) fail to show me a login prompt to commit, any reason why or how to reset it to ask again?23:25
|dthacker|never mind. it seems to have healed itself23:27
|dthacker|wierd23:27
|dthacker|weird even23:27
|dthacker|later23:27
alper_LeeJunFan: now I am connected o my network but I still get "No scan results" from iwlist scan. but I have the populated iwconfig output now23:32
alper_LeeJunFan: thank you, everything is fine now I am connected :))))23:35
LeeJunFanalper_: well, that's good but I'm not sure abotu iwlist not working right :)23:36
mn"unexpected en of file in version number in..."23:36
joegeekwell,..  im glad im not the only one who's have`n problems with wifi,...23:36
dr_williswifi IS a problem23:37
dr_willis:)23:37
joegeeklol23:37
dr_willisgotta love nonstantard standards.. and   binary blob/firmware/drivers23:37
alper_LeeJunFan: about that I think the problem was me I typed it with sudo and I got it. I am learning :))23:37
dr_willisand a dozen howtos to get the same card working - a dozen different ways23:37
dr_willis:)23:37
LeeJunFanlol, especially with the broadcom23:38
LeeJunFanat least atheros is pretty straightforward - use madwifi.23:38
joegeekI can connect to an unsecured network, but when I try to connect to my wap (secured) no luck,..23:38
LeeJunFanjoegeek: wpa or wep? kind of lost me there. :)23:38
joegeekwe[23:39
joegeekwep23:39
LeeJunFanhrm, that's odd - wep is usually easy enough. I've had some issues with different versions and types of wpa.23:39
LeeJunFanjoegeek: one of the biggest problems I have with WEP is I often forget to choose in knetworkmanager if I'm entering a passphrase, or a key. I use the key, and it defaults to asking for a passphrase so I have to choose a key.23:40
zeelotplease someone help me...no svn clients on ubuntu 64bit 8.04 ever ask for login info I just get a 403 permission denied right away I need this to be fixed or I cant work!! anyone have any idea???23:40
LeeJunFanof course right now I'm in intrepid and knetworkmanager is broken completely for wireless :)23:40
LeeJunFanzeelot: it's probably some setting in your ~/.subversion directory.23:42
joegeeki've been use`n all kinds of settings,..  Started with the ones i knew were right,...23:42
sanguisdexhere is a faq, I have been a using ubuntu for a while now but would like to try K 4 as it looks like a step up.  is there a way I can try it w/o reformating and if I decide that I prefer gnome better is there a simple way to go back?23:42
LeeJunFan!kde423:43
ubottuKDE 4.1.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde423:43
joegeekLeeJunFan: use`n KNetworkManager of course,...23:43
LeeJunFansanguisdex: I wouldn't call it a step up yet - there are a lot of components unfinished yet.23:43
sanguisdexLeeJunFan: so I might want to wait till 4.2 to oavoid frustrations23:44
sanguisdex?23:44
joshuajtlis it true that in about a month kubuntu is dropping kde3 ?23:44
LeeJunFan4.1.2 and no23:45
zeelotLeeJunFan:  thanks, uninstalled subversion, deleted the .subversion folder and reinstalled, works23:46
LeeJunFanzeelot: good, your welcome.23:47
LeeJunFansanguisdex: You can install 4.1.1 from that link above but I found that after installing the hardy 4.4.1 and upgrading to intrepid I had to manually remove all the hardy ones because they were actually treated as different programs.23:47
dr_willisYou proberly dident need to 'uninstall subversion' :)23:48
Deniseand desinformation?23:49
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rightBlinkercan someone recommend a video screen capture utility for Kubuntu?23:50
LeeJunFanksnapshot23:51
LeeJunFanoh, sry video.23:51
rightBlinker= )23:51
LeeJunFankrecordmydesktop23:51
rightBlinkerLeeJunFan: Thanks23:51
Deniseu can keep on dreaming on firmware dear23:53
Deniseu will wait a long time23:53
clusbyanyone know if I can disable / remap the 'ctrl-alt-Fx' keys?23:53
clusbyi.e. i have a virtual machine, and running excel is kinda hard because I would like 'ctrl-alt-F9'23:54
DeniseI dont care23:55
Search4LancerI think I broke something.... somehow. I had started Kaffeine and Ktorrent at the same time, system all but froze up (and wouldn't let me kill ktorrent), I finally just shut it off (or it did so itself, don't remember), and now won't boot back up - I can type my password in to the login screen and hit enter, or change the kind of session I want and do nothing else, and it goes to the default...23:56
Search4Lancer...background for 30 seconds or so, then shuts off23:56
Search4Lancerah, I remember, while it was frozen, it was constantly reading/writing on my external HD... I shut off the HD, and the whole system shut off23:57

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