[00:01] <i3ooi3oo> I have an issue, where i had install the ATI (closed Drive) then removed it now my fglrxinfo state it by  Mesa project not ATI
[00:06] <paolo> hi. before buying this wi-fi ethernet card: hamlet HNWU254G i need to know if it's well compatible with (k)ubuntu. how can i check that?
[00:16] <master_> In firefox, I just printed to pdf---so uh, where exactly did it put the pdf file?
[00:24] <i3ooi3oo> xorg.log ->http://pastebin.ca/1207820
[00:24] <i3ooi3oo> frim a fail boot
[00:24] <i3ooi3oo> any ideas?
[00:34] <o0Chris0o_> is konversation, kopete packaged in kde4 yet?
[00:34] <o0Chris0o_> !kde4
[00:34] <Nigskki> christ, when is amarok 2 coming?
[00:35] <Nigskki> shit looks cash ^_^
[00:35] <o0Chris0o_> prolly with kde 4.2
[00:36] <Nigskki> they said it would come in the middle of the two releases
[00:36] <Nigskki> as in kde 4.1 and 4.2
[00:52] <leftBlinker> is the paste bin source available?
[00:54] <demontager> What is Kubuntu 8.04 Remix
[00:55] <dope> so i setup vncserver on here but when i connect into it I don't see what's on my desktop, rather I see a console window
[00:59] <favro> leftBlinker: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:00] <leftBlinker> dope:  I dont have it installed anymore but maybe take a look at this file $HOME/.vnc/xstartup and have startkde in there somewhere?
[01:01] <dope> ok thanks leftBlinker
[01:03] <dope> leftBlinker: that kind of worked.  i get just like a weird checkboardish desktop now
[01:04] <dope> i found something in that startup file that said uncomment the following two lines for a normal desktop and so i did
[01:06] <leftBlinker> cool, i dont really remember, but the server will run the file like a shell script, somehow start kde with command line?
[01:09] <ZeroSilverwing> argh, i'm in a live session right now, and i can't get my sound card to work
[01:09] <ZeroSilverwing> i mmean it registers on kmix but ffff
[01:19] <ninix> hi guys, i did my normal packages upgrade few days ago..... and now, my kwin don't start at startup i must run it with ALT-F2, any hint ?
[01:20] <DarkriftX> whats the best backup program/command? I am about to make some driver changes and want a backup incase it doesnt work (wifi drivers, they are finicky and take a while to get working once screwed up)
[01:21] <ninix> DarkriftX: why not make a simple image of your disk ?
[01:21] <felipe__> holaaaaaaaaaa
[01:21] <ninix> at least, of the /.
[01:21] <DarkriftX> large disk, not a lot of storage
[01:21] <felipe__> alguien me entiende?
[01:21] <ninix> / is normally small
[01:21] <felipe__> how can i use my mobil in kubuntu???????????????
[01:21] <ninix> and your /home is normally on another disk..
[01:22] <DarkriftX> its not
[01:22] <DarkriftX> all on same disk
[01:22] <ninix> if not.... bad install :P
[01:22] <PantherDream> hello
[01:22] <felipe__> hey
[01:22] <DarkriftX> default install
[01:22] <ninix> ok
[01:22] <felipe__> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[01:22] <vezir> i can't get any sound on kde 3.5.9 :/
[01:23] <DarkriftX> there isnt any sort of "system" backup that grabs all the important stuff?
[01:23] <DarkriftX> my home folder will probably be safe
[01:23] <PantherDream> i wanna change from gnome to kde
[01:23] <DarkriftX> !info kubuntu-*
[01:23] <ninix> PantherDream: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:23] <DarkriftX> yeah, thats it
[01:24] <ninix> DarkriftX: yeah... make an image of your / :)
[01:24] <DarkriftX> ok
[01:24] <ninix> there isn't a LIST of important stuff.... that's no sense.
[01:24] <ninix> if your system work well now..... then all the / is important.
[01:24] <PantherDream> ninix, i've done that, i can log into KDE, but i'm having troubles making it usable
[01:24] <DarkriftX> im still a bit new to file structure so wasnt sure
[01:24] <ninix> PantherDream: what do you mean by "usable"
[01:25] <ninix> DarkriftX: np
[01:25] <DarkriftX> in windows if you are doing a driver update, theres no need to backup program files folder, so i wasnt sure if there was something close here
[01:25] <DarkriftX> so ill do / minus home
[01:26] <ninix> DarkriftX: the best way is, when you install create a partition for / and another one for /home, (and if you want, one for /usr). after that, make a backup of / is very easy and not so big
[01:26] <PantherDream> first of all, i dont like the default file explorer, nautilus was way nicer, also, compiz is gone and my themes don't show up anymore
[01:26] <ninix> konqueror is a way nicer, in my opinion, but... this can be easily changed in the kde control.
[01:27] <ninix> for compiz, search a tutorial "kde + compiz" you'll find what to settup.
[01:27] <PantherDream> so it is possible to use compiz in KDE just like in Gnome?
[01:28] <ninix> off course, yes. i've already used it.
[01:28] <PantherDream> how about my themes?
[01:28] <ninix> themes ?
[01:28] <DarkriftX> PantherDream, use konqueror, its better then dolphin
[01:29] <ninix> if you set a theme in gnome..... that's completly different from a kde theme
[01:29] <PantherDream> but can't i use the same ones?
[01:31] <ninix> no. search a new theme at kde-looks.org
[01:31] <PantherDream> ok...
[01:31] <ninix> You need to know..... gnome and kde are TWO separate desktop environnement
[01:32] <ninix> anyone know about my kwin probleme ?
[01:32] <PantherDream> i know, and most of my favorite linux apps (Amarok, Kopete, etc) are built for KDE that's why i wanna change
[01:32] <ninix> yeah, kde is a very great desktop...... made with a wonderful framework: QT.
[01:33] <PantherDream> well, i've never really tried it before, but the applications made for it are great, so it can't be bad
[01:37] <PantherDream> except for the obvious ones, how can i tell if a app that i've installed is meant for KDE or Gnome?
[01:37] <DarkriftX> is keep a decent automated backup system?
[01:37] <DarkriftX> if i tell it to backup / (exclude /home/) every 3 days, would that be reliable and not too system intensive
[01:38] <ninix> DarkriftX: i suggest you to look this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/search?PHPSESSID=158a8b4dc6e8b3597ca3b6bf4353a305&cx=017338271194360913207%3Avuzb4jxd_2m&cof=FORID%3A11&q=backup&sa=Search#1414
[01:38] <DarkriftX> looking
[01:39] <ninix> PantherDream: in fact, a program is simply linked to the GUI library. If you do a simple `ldd /usr/bin/amarok` you will see the link to libQt*.so. that's means that the library use QT.
[01:40] <ninix> otherwise... an application can link to libgtk.. or something like that.
[01:41] <ninix> and there is no problem to use application made for KDE in gnome, and vice-versa. I use some gtk application here.
[01:41] <tim_> Hello, i have a small problem with adept package manager, can anyone help?
[01:41] <ninix> tim_: don't ask to ask. ASK :)
[01:42] <ninix> and if someone can help you, he will.
[01:43] <akiro> hello my name is akiro
[01:45] <akiro> HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[01:45] <ninix> ...
[01:45] <akiro> fuck out c dla marde sti
[01:45] <ninix> tu fais quoi là idiot ?
[01:45] <akiro> kedale sti
[01:45] <akiro> toé
[01:46] <tim_> =) thank you, half of the rpms, wont download, "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[01:46] <ninix> je regarde un tata essayé d'écrire sur IRC.
[01:46] <akiro> Merci beaucoup
[01:46] <akiro> mais cpmment on ecrit sur un irc
[01:47] <PantherDream> ninix, but aren't KDE applications supposed to run much slower in Gnome, and vice-versa?
[01:47] <PantherDream> that's the whole point of me switching to KDE
[01:47] <akiro> ok
[01:47] <ninix> akiro: first, it's a english channel here. So...there is a channel kubuntu-fr i think.
[01:47] <joshuajtl> anyone use the Crystal Project icon theme set?
[01:48] <DarkriftX> LOL::Note:- By default Restored Files and Directories are owned by root this is because of sbackup will runs with root.You need to chnage these files or folder permissions using chmod or just right click and select properties of the file or folder.
[01:48] <akiro> ok but if is a english chanel and think you had some rules too
[01:48] <DarkriftX> how friggen useful os that
[01:48] <DarkriftX> is*
[01:48] <akiro> chow
[01:49] <joshuajtl> I was wondering if anyone knows how to change the Linspire konqueror spinning logo?
[01:49] <ninix> akiro: there is no "rules". except that we need to respect everyone here
[01:51] <akiro> ok
[01:51] <akiro> thanks fr the tube
[01:51] <akiro> for*
[01:57] <Glady> plus u change my auto connection all the time
[02:08] <tim_> =) thank you, half of the rpms, wont download, "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. " any help?
[02:09] <Glady> what changes you made
[02:10] <favro> kubuntu doesn't use rpms
[02:10] <tim_> or the packages
[02:10] <tim_> sorry
[02:11] <tim_> havent done much, im using 8.04 and the packages wouldnt work from the beggining
[02:12] <Glady> put the package in fire
[02:12] <tim_> excuse me?
[02:13] <Glady> test it in firefox
[02:13] <Glady> jesus u r  a newbie?
[02:13] <tim_> how would i do that?
[02:13] <tim_> apparently
[02:14] <dick-richardson> anyone using mysql for amarok? I don't have enough room to run it on my root partition, but have not been able to move it to another
[02:14] <Glady> back to kubrick
[02:14] <Glady> in hollywood
[02:14] <Glady> ok night guys
[02:16] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is there a way to set time automatically? Theres an option in system settings, but changing it causes it to freeze.
[02:17] <demontager> what repo i should add to install kde 4.1.1 in Ubuntu>?
[02:19] <dick-richardson> @demontager: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[02:21] <surgy> i have an mpeg4 file and i need to split it in half, anyone know a peice of software that can do this for me?
[02:23] <dr_willis> avidemux proberly can surgy
[02:23] <dr_willis> !find avid
[02:24] <dr_willis> if i can spell its name right
[02:29] <szakulec> avidemux can do that- if you enable the universe and/or multiverse, it should be present there
[02:30] <szakulec> it may also be called avidemux2
[02:35] <Kevin_> Hello. I've got a headless server set up running Hardy Server Edition that I want to configure with remote resumable KDE sessions... I'm currently using X forwarding to accomplish the remote part of this but I don't know how to make sessions resumable. Help appreciated :).
[02:37] <dr_willis> Not sure thats even possible. depending on what you mean by resumeable
[02:38] <fiyawerx> Kevin_: freenx
[02:38] <dr_willis> You could use vnc/vncserver and have ' desktops' that are persistant. and dont 'close' when the user closes the vncclient tool
[02:38] <dr_willis> freenx may also do that.  Ive never managetd to get freenx working
[02:38] <fiyawerx> freenx/nxclient will do it
[02:38] <fiyawerx> i usually just download the .deb's and install manually for the real version, not freenx
[02:38] <Kevin_> fiyawerx, freenx/nxclient will allow me to use KDE with X tunneled over ssh?
[02:38] <fiyawerx> nomachine has a "free" server that allows I think up to 2 simultaneous connections
[02:38] <dr_willis> Did they finally get freenx clients for windows?
[02:38] <dr_willis> been ages since i last looked at freenx
[02:39] <fiyawerx> dr_willis: you could always use nx's real client to connect to freenx server, as long as i've been using it they've had windows clients yeah
[02:39] <fiyawerx> and Kevin_: it does use ssh
[02:39] <dr_willis> I tend to use 'xming' on the windows machines to get apps forwareded.. or vnc.
[02:39] <fiyawerx> and runs quite a bit faster than any other remote desktop type software i've used
[02:39] <Kevin_> fiyawerx, ok because I've tried VNC and it is just abysmally slow.... thanks :D
[02:40] <dr_willis> with vnc. i find it pays to use a very minimal desktop.  and cut down the # of fancy stuff
[02:40] <dr_willis> ive only used it on a local lan. so i dident have to worry about ssh tunnles with vnc either.
[02:40] <dr_willis> I do hear freenx is much faster.
[02:41] <faileas> it is
[02:41] <dr_willis> of course with xming, im just displaying a single program/window from the linux box.. not the whole desktop. Its very useable on my local lan.
[02:41] <dr_willis> but not a good idea for over the internet. withoug some ssh tossed in
[02:41]  * faileas notes it also works decently over the net, with home lines
[02:43] <Kevin_> fiyawerx, sorry I forgot to clarify, by resumable I mean that I can close the connection on my computer without causing all of my running programs to die
[02:43] <dr_willis> I belive the proper term is 'persistant' :)   at least ive heard it called that.
[02:44] <Kevin_> dr_willis, yes I think you are correct
[02:45] <darakian> anyone here know why my laptop's internal speakers would be enabled while I have speakers connected via the audio out?
[02:45] <darakian> and these speakers are outputting sound...
[02:45] <dr_willis> I know vnc can do that.. depending on how you start the vncserver.   fiyawerx  sort of suggested that freenx can do it also.. so try them both. :)
[02:48] <Guest38916> Hi! I'm just testing this. Sorry for the spam.
[02:48] <Kevin_> fiyawerx, do you know if I will need to remove X from my system before installing freenx?
[02:49] <aktrapper> how can I install Bricolage-cms on kubuntu 8.04 , apt-get fails and  it's not listed  under the abept manager
[02:52] <darakian> so no one then?
[02:55] <x_link> Hi
[02:56] <x_link> I just have a question.
[02:56] <x_link> I heard that KDE in Kubuntu is pretty "modified" or something like that.
[02:56] <x_link> Is there anyway to just install "pure" KDE on (K)ubuntu?
[02:56] <x_link> You have to escuse my english, it's not that good.
[03:03] <mn> x_link: what's your native language?
[03:04] <mn> x_link: are you there?
[03:04] <zht> hi
[03:05] <mister-tea> he left
[03:05] <mn> oh ok
[03:05] <sben> nnn
[03:07] <zht> ?
[03:23] <darakian> hello?
[03:23] <Politics> So I'm doing this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495
[03:23] <Politics> Down in the WPA section
[03:23] <Politics> And when I issue the wpa_supplicant command it times out
[03:24] <Politics> After trying to associate with my router's MAC address
[03:24] <Politics> Which is sees
[03:24] <Politics> But then reports "Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.
[03:24] <Politics> "
[03:25] <Politics> Any ideas of what I should do?
[03:25] <mister-tea> !enter
[03:25] <DasYogi> Quick question - how do you manually set up a wired network connection in xubuntu?
[03:25] <DasYogi> kubuntu
[03:26] <Politics> I think I'm doing something similar, DasYogi
[03:26] <Politics> Look in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495 and see if it works
[03:26] <Politics> I think that's wireless
[03:27] <Politics> but wired might be something similar.
[03:27] <DasYogi> let me clarify, I've set up my wireless to be served through wpa encryption. i guess what i really would like to know if i need to tweak wpa_supplicant for wired connections
[03:28] <Politics> ah, I don't think I can help.
[03:29] <DasYogi> forgetting wpa for a moment do I have to declare my wired interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:29] <DasYogi> my card is assigned an ethx extension
[03:29] <DasYogi> and dchp
[03:39] <mister-tea> where's the bot ?
[03:41] <DarkriftX> when doing a system backup is it best to just do a tar so that restoring is easier? ive read a lot about backup programs but most seem to be needed to restore their own backups
[03:46] <zeelot> hey guys, installed 64bit ubuntu today (8.04) and now I can't seem to checkout a repository with kdesvn or rapidsvn anymore, I get PROPFIND of '/': 403 Forbidden, anyone know why? I dont even get a login prompt
[03:57] <mixed1234> anyone knows how to enable openGL on 64 bit distro?
[04:01] <mixed1234> forget it, i just figured out what was wrong with openGL on my 64 bit distro
[04:02] <atrus42> can anyone help me get my screen resolution set?
[04:04] <sumo_su> atrus42: hmm i come from ubuntu, but maybe you can explain more?
[04:04] <atrus42> well I have an ATI card
[04:04] <sumo_su> ubuntu indstead of kubuntu
[04:05] <atrus42> and I don't know if I just don't have all of the drivers installed correctly
[04:05] <sumo_su> i have an ati card too
[04:05] <atrus42> or xorg just isn't configured correctly
[04:05] <atrus42> but I can't seem to get a display other than 800X600
[04:06] <sumo_su> hmm i have an ati1950pro i think... i just have to double reboot after a fresh install
[04:06] <atrus42> I have an older AMD 64 bit system
[04:06] <atrus42> so I have an AGP version of the 9250
[04:06] <atrus42> I had it working fine
[04:07] <sumo_su> hmm what did you do that could have messed with the xorg.conf?
[04:07] <atrus42> but I had thought I had fixed my 6600GT so I uninstalled the ATI stuff and installed the nvidia stuff
[04:07] <atrus42> but the nvidia card was still bad so I tried to uninstall the nvidia stuff and reinstall the ATI stuff
[04:07] <atrus42> but it doesn't seem to want to go
[04:08] <atrus42> when I run the fglrxinfo command it comes up with vesa (is that the right one?) instead of ATI
[04:09] <sumo_su> thats a bit over my head buy in my experience thats an improper xorg.conf
[04:09] <sumo_su> but i dont want to break your system any further.... so i give up
[04:09] <atrus42> which is what I'd guess to, but none of the "walk-throughs" I can find online seem to fully get this fixed
[04:10] <sumo_su> you could try to use one of the old xorg. backup files... by date maybe?
[04:11] <sumo_su> usually every install of drivers and such creates such a backup file
[04:12] <atrus42> which would explain why I have about 12 of them then
[04:12] <atrus42> (it's more like 4)
[04:12] <sumo_su> yea same her
[04:12] <sumo_su> here
[04:12] <Treppid> hi guys, just trying out intrepid, pretty kewl so far, still tons of glitches hehe alpha6 no wonder!
[04:13] <xbxbxb> When I'm at the login screen, then press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login with my username at the CLI. Does this login procedure require the home folder of this user to be present?
[04:13] <sumo_su> atrus42: you could back up the current xorg. and play back one of a time you think it was still good
[04:15] <Treppid> if any are trying it (alpha6) warning!, do not!, enable desktop effects!, I lost x-screen picture, completely black! had to reload entire system again!
[04:15] <atrus42> what is intrepid?
[04:15] <atrus42> nvm
[04:15] <sumo_su> intrepid is the next ubuntu version
[04:15] <atrus42> right
[04:15] <atrus42> brain fart
[04:15] <CoJaBo-Eee> lol
[04:15] <atrus42> duh
[04:15] <atrus42> I'm smart
[04:15] <Treppid> ya, due out end of oct.
[04:16] <sumo_su> oct? i thought sept?
[04:16] <sumo_su> maaan!
[04:16] <Daisuke_Ido> Treppid: just because it happened to you doesn't mean it will happen to everyone
[04:16] <Daisuke_Ido> sumo_su: 8.10 means 2008, october
[04:17] <sumo_su> Daisuke_Ido: oh.. thanks:)
[04:17] <CoJaBo-Eee> How do you upgrade to  the next version, is it automatic or do you have to do something?
[04:17] <Treppid> tho glad to see, I found 3 or 4 players that worked on dvd's!, now I'll have to save my pennies for a burner hehe,
[04:18] <sumo_su> let me guess: erase your harddrive and ... oh i forgot to burn the image to cd!
[04:19] <sumo_su> intrepid will not be a milestone if i see it right... ?
[04:20] <sumo_su> the current 8.04 is "stable" isnt it?
[04:21] <Treppid> any here know the correct setting for the jumper switches to hook up a second hardrive?, example= one master, one slave?,both master?
[04:21] <sumo_su> Treppid: yea
[04:22] <sumo_su> Treppid: you either select one master and one slave by jumper or you put both on cable select
[04:22] <Treppid> cable select ok thats probably the way ill go thx lots
[04:22] <sumo_su> Treppid: all is doen by jumper. some cables dont support cable select
[04:22] <Treppid> oh
[04:23] <sumo_su> Treppid: you just have to try. you cant break anything
[04:23] <sumo_su> Treppid: modern cables (past 2000) will support cable select and  thats the way to go
[04:23] <Treppid> this is a very old puter so one will have tobe slave,
[04:24] <sumo_su> Treppid: if its a very old comp just jumper one driver to master and the other to slave and youre fine
[04:24] <sumo_su> grr not driver.. jumper
[04:24] <sumo_su> Treppid: if its a very old comp just jumper one drive to master and the other to slave and youre fine
[04:25] <sumo_su> sorry
[04:26] <Treppid> as far as can't break anything, I found a way lol!, never touched jumpers & tried adding the other HD, some how my dvd burner fried?, must have been "murphy's-law:" that got me haha!
[04:27] <sumo_su> what sort of hardware are you plugging in?
[04:28] <sumo_su> you shouldnt be able to fry hardware by setting the jumpers wrong
[04:29] <atrus42> unless you had the computer on while plugging the hardware in
[04:29] <Treppid> one is a 80 gig 7200 rpm drive, other an older IBM 40 gig 7200 rpm drive, maybe their not really both 7200? or different voltage?, oh well
[04:30] <sumo_su> yea that fries old computers and that is why sata and usb are so "modern":)
[04:30] <atrus42> I still am nervous about plugging my sata drives in while the computer is on
[04:31] <atrus42> kinda feels like playing russian roulette
[04:31] <sumo_su> i never went thru that adventure:)
[04:31] <sumo_su> but i am re-overclocking mine atm:)
[04:31] <atrus42> I only did it because my HD had an issue
[04:31] <atrus42> and I couldn't get the computer to boot with it in
[04:31] <atrus42> so I figured I'd boot up and then plug it in and see if I could pull the stuff off
[04:31] <Treppid> ok guess ill just make due with the 80 gig, & add the dvd rom, till I can buy just one burner = )
[04:32] <sumo_su> well if you can switch the comp off you switch it off:)
[04:32] <sumo_su> youre not running a 24/7 server (which is what the sata standard was designed for too)
[04:32] <atrus42> well I don't often uninstall my hard drives
[04:33] <sumo_su> same here:)
[04:33] <sumo_su> hardest trick i ever pulled was to take a bios chip out of a running computer, flash it, and put it in mine:)
[04:34] <sumo_su> worked:))))
[04:34] <atrus42> wow...nice
[04:34] <sumo_su> 1 broken computer? noooo! i set everything on red!
[04:34] <sumo_su> i won 2 fixed computers:)
[04:35] <atrus42> excellent
[04:35] <sumo_su> could have been 2 broken ones;))
[04:35] <atrus42> indeed
[04:36] <sumo_su> you dont have to do that today.. unPLUG the computer and the bios is more careful
[04:37] <sumo_su> i really have to shut up but i'm overclocking instead of playing poker tonight
[04:38] <Treppid> I wish I knew how to over clock mine, course the processer speed says locked, not that into dos teckie typing hehe, if thats what it takes?
[04:38] <sumo_su> overclocking is handicraft:)
[04:38] <atrus42> depends on your mobo..I think usually it is done in the bios isn't it?
[04:38] <sumo_su> dont overclock notebooks
[04:38] <CoJaBo-Eee> lol
[04:39] <damian> Argentina?????????
[04:39] <damian> Alguien??
[04:39] <sumo_su> atrus42: right. i bought my comp in parts and assembled them... design was to OC
[04:39] <Treppid> well considering these 2 puters I have are "grampas" to modern ones, I will risk frying em hehe
[04:40] <sumo_su> !es|damian
[04:40] <atrus42> I built mine too, but I don't overclock
[04:40] <atrus42> I think the one I am on now has a windows utility that would let me do it...but...meh
[04:41] <atrus42> maybe I'd be more into it if I actually had done it once or twice and saw a huge speed jump
[04:41] <sumo_su> i am willing to overvolt now:)
[04:41] <sumo_su> make the thing die:)
[04:41] <Treppid> the main computer I use now, I found & fixed from a dumpster someone threw away haha
[04:41] <Jimmmmy1> Hey guys ! Im currently using Kubuntu and im thinking of updating to the next Ubuntu Version.... Is it faster better or anything or should i just stick to the version that im using now ?
[04:42] <atrus42> I am so jealous newegg had a huge jump in proc for sale for 25 bucks, I missed it because I had just moved and didn't have net access yet
[04:42] <sumo_su> Treppid: there's traffic here now... we should just shut up with our off topic talk
[04:42] <Treppid> ya buntu chat again
[04:42] <atrus42> maybe I should repeat my query
[04:42] <Jimmmmy1> ah dont mind me guys just a quick question and then im off
[04:43] <atrus42> I guess that would depend which version of kubuntu you are running
[04:43] <Jimmmmy1> 7.10
[04:43] <Treppid> its just a different desktop, zero difference, tho I prefer the look of KDE, = )
[04:44] <Jimmmmy1> ah ok ! its only cause im having a bit of trouble with this version i thought that the new ubuntu would have less bugs in it
[04:45] <atrus42> what are you talking about treppid? there are difference between 7.10 and 8.04
[04:45] <Treppid> yes was talkin bout 8.04 kubuntu & 8.04 ubuntu
[04:46] <Treppid> jimmmy!, hope ya see that b4 ya left!
[04:47] <Jimmmmy1> ahh still here
[04:47] <Jimmmmy1> i didnt know there was a kubuntu 8.04
[04:47] <atrus42> there isn't really a difference in speed but there are additional features in 8.04 VS 7.10
[04:47] <Jimmmmy1> ill dload that 1 i guess
[04:47] <lizzie> I have a PC that is connected to a LAN, and also has a wireless card that is currently not being used in a productive way.  How can I make the computer act as a WAP so I can connect my laptop?
[04:47] <lizzie> (a link to an online guide would be great)
[04:48] <Treppid> k, so ya mega diff, I thought the new graphics card made my system better haha!, it was switching from 7.10 to 8.04 kubuntu, wow amazed me hehe
[04:49] <austin> is anyone on?
[04:49] <Jimmmmy1> actually is there a way i can just update 7.10 to 8.04 without dloading a new cd ?
[04:50] <atrus42> yes...you can do it in the OS
[04:50] <atrus42> hang on
[04:50] <Jimmmmy1> ah sweet
[04:50] <atrus42> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-to-ubuntu-804-lts-hardy-heron.html
[04:50] <Jimmmmy1> Great ill go and have a play with that now
[04:50] <Jimmmmy1> cheers mate
[04:51] <Jimmmmy1> wait... thats ubuntu, does it matter ?
[04:52] <atrus42> not really..some of the specifics may be different, but that is the guide I used
[04:52] <Jimmmmy1> ok sweet
[04:53] <Treppid> true, some like gnome desktop some like kde, sometimes ya feel like a nut, sometimes ya don't lol
[04:55] <Jimmmmy1> Is update manager same as adept manager ?
[04:57] <atrus42> not the same, two seperate programs, but the perform essentially the same function
[04:57] <atrus42> at least as far as I understand it
[04:57] <Jimmmmy1> might be easier if i just dload the new version
[04:58] <atrus42> you'll be fine
[04:58] <Jimmmmy1> unless i click full upgrate
[04:58] <Treppid> srry I'm not sure bout that one, I found 5 ways on Intrepid so far to install software, 2 ior 3 ways of updateing, hope they narrow it down a bit hehe
[05:00] <Treppid> sumo-super tech!, you still here? have one tech question,
[05:01] <faileas> Treppid: they are all based on dpkg everything is just a front end ;p
[05:02] <josh> where do you get in to the other rooms?
[05:02] <josh> or is this just for linux?
[05:04] <Treppid> is it possible to change or add an adapter, to fit a graphics card into a improper slot on mobo? last hardware question promise ; )
[05:05] <Treppid> ty faileas too ; )
[05:16] <treppid> with kde4 how do ya log in as root?, says I have to to run, `nvidia-xconfig` to enable the graphics accelerator software, = )
[05:18] <atrus42> do it from the login screen? or just run it su password and you are logged in root in the terminal
[05:20] <treppid> i tried to put root as my name or pass, on login screen, duh! don't know what I'm doing hehe, yes maybe terminal thank-you
[05:21] <epimeth> ahoy folksies
[05:21] <epimeth> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HebrewInput
[05:21] <epimeth> how do I do this in kubuntu?
[05:23] <epimeth> and is there some other way to do it in kde without using a gnome app?
[05:33] <holycow> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/09/on-kde4-performance.html
[05:33] <holycow> wrong window sorry
[05:49] <deadsouls> does anyone know of any simple text editors that can categorize files by tags?
[06:02] <son_> Hi every one. This is the first time I use Konversation
[06:03] <smax> hi
[06:03] <smax> i know this isn't #physics but just curious,  when one takes a piss, does air escape the penis too?  i noticed when i piss in empty plastic milk jugs, they expand.
[06:08] <favro> smax: not exactly a kubuntu support question...
[06:08] <surgy> hello
[06:09] <surgy> why isnt my windows installation on sda2 not showing up in my grub boot list"? and how can i fix this?
[06:09] <favro> !grub
[06:10] <surgy> !grub
[06:10] <surgy> ubotu is broken?
[06:12] <favro> !bot
[06:12] <favro> seems so
[06:12] <surgy> its listed as sda5
[06:13] <surgy> ...
[06:13] <surgy> can you walk me through the commands?
[06:13] <surgy> i just need to edit grub.conf right? or similer?
[06:18] <favro> surgy: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst - will let you edit the file
[06:19] <surgy> what should be there to make windows boot?
[06:21] <favro> surgy: I'll paste what I use and you can change that to suit your system - one min
[06:21] <surgy> favro: thanks man
[06:23] <favro> surgy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49182/ - you'll need to change the (hd0,0) part
[06:24] <surgy> favro: yeah i have a question about that, my grub.lst says buntu is installed on hd0,6..... that doesnt make since to me since kubuntu says that its partition is called sda7 and my windows part is called sda5
[06:25] <surgy> so how do i know what numbers to put there?
[06:25] <favro> surgy: kubuntu counts from one - grub counts from zero - so take one off what kubuntu calls it - so (sd0,5) should work
[06:27] <surgy> but grub is calling it hd0,6 so i need to call it hdo5 ?
[06:27] <surgy> hd0,5
[06:28] <surgy> ill just try it and see
[06:31] <surgy> apparently hd0,5 is an invalid device
[06:32] <surgy> kubuntu is on hd0,6 so maybe i should try hd0,7 ?
[06:35] <surgy> sorry about that
[06:35] <surgy> yeah hd0,4 and hd0,6 both seam to be "invalid devices"
[06:36] <surgy> its two different partitions on the same hdd
[06:36] <Colonel_Panic> anybody alive in here?
[06:37] <Colonel_Panic> Im having sound card issues
[06:37] <Colonel_Panic> Sound card inputs won't work
[06:37] <Colonel_Panic> can't get Audacity to record, though it plays sound files OK
[06:38] <surgy> how do i figure out which hd0,X my windows partition is on?
[06:38] <surgy> disks and filesystems shows the partition as sda5
[06:38] <noaXess> good morning
[06:38] <Colonel_Panic> it ought to be an FAT32  or an NTFS partition
[06:38] <noaXess> surgy: try fdisk /dev/sda and then p
[06:38] <Colonel_Panic> I mean, filesystem
[06:39] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess, I'm having a sound card issue
[06:39] <Colonel_Panic> Sound card inputs won't work
[06:39] <Colonel_Panic> can't get Audacity to record, though it plays sound files OK
[06:39] <noaXess> for recording?
[06:39] <Colonel_Panic> yep
[06:39] <noaXess> what soundcard typ?
[06:39] <noaXess> auuo system, oss or alsa?
[06:40] <noaXess> audio
[06:40] <Colonel_Panic> it's an old Sound Blaster Live! Value
[06:40] <Colonel_Panic> I have ALSA
[06:40] <surgy> noaXess: this is what i get http://pastebin.com/m790f3444
[06:40] <Colonel_Panic> how can I be sure I don'y have OSS also?
[06:41] <Colonel_Panic> *don't*
[06:41] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: have you played around with alsamixer?..
[06:41] <surgy> noaXess: menu.lst is showing linux partition as (hd0,6)
[06:41] <noaXess> with h in alsamixer you get a help
[06:41] <Colonel_Panic> yeah
[06:41] <noaXess> F4 for input
[06:41] <Colonel_Panic> one sec, I
[06:41] <Colonel_Panic> ll post a screenshot
[06:42] <noaXess> surgy: i seams that you win partition is on /dev/sda5..
[06:42] <surgy> noaXess: so how do i tell what the hd0,X number is for my windows partition?
[06:42] <noaXess> what do you want now?
[06:42] <noaXess> surgy: for what? grub?
[06:43] <surgy> linux is loaded with this
[06:43] <surgy> root		(hd0,6)
[06:43] <surgy> yes for grub
[06:43] <noaXess> aha
[06:43] <noaXess> haven't seen all your questions :)
[06:43] <surgy> oh ok my bad
[06:43] <Colonel_Panic> http://i35.tinypic.com/15r136x.png
[06:43] <compig> kde4 is slow
[06:44] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess, any clues?
[06:44] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: press F4 for capture devices
[06:45] <Colonel_Panic> in alsamixer?
[06:45] <surgy> noaxess got any idea how i might find this out? would be awsome to get back into windows to play a game
[06:45] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: hep.. with h you got the help
[06:45] <noaXess> surgy: just a moment..
[06:46] <surgy> noaXess: thank you
[06:47] <Colonel_Panic> Well, this screenshot exposes the problem: http://i38.tinypic.com/qn7hgn.png
[06:48] <noaXess> surgy: not the expert in this :) but found this.. may help you http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[06:49] <leftBlinker> whats wrong with hd(0,0)?
[06:50] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess: http://i38.tinypic.com/qn7hgn.png
[06:50] <surgy> leftBlinker: is that the one i need to be booting into to get into windows?
[06:51] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: it seams that no capture control is available .. hm..
[06:51] <Colonel_Panic> Well, I also have a shitty onboard sound system...
[06:52] <leftBlinker> donno, that's what I've got on my menu.lst, if you installed windows first I think it'd be that partition
[06:52] <Colonel_Panic> Is there maybe a setting I can use to enable capture with my SB Live! Value?
[06:52] <surgy> ok let me try that then
[06:52] <surgy> brb if it doesnt work wish me luck :)
[06:52] <leftBlinker> gl
[06:52] <Colonel_Panic> or failing that, use the mobo's sound system for input?
[06:53] <Colonel_Panic> I know this sound card works under Windows. I used to use it in a Windows box.
[06:54] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: do a sudo lspci -vvv > lspci.log and look for you audio device...
[06:54] <noaXess> your ^
[06:55] <Colonel_Panic> what does that command do? (I like to understand the tyheings I type into the command shell)
[06:55] <Colonel_Panic> ... *the things*
[06:55] <favro> if there is two audio cards the onboard needs to be disabled in the bios afaik
[06:56] <Colonel_Panic> I don't think that's possible
[06:56] <Colonel_Panic> with my BIOS
[06:57] <Colonel_Panic> however, I did change a congiguration file (don't remember which one) to stop Linux from enabling it
[06:57] <leftBlinker> the ntldr thing at least
[06:57] <Colonel_Panic> damn, my typing sucks this evening
[06:57] <Colonel_Panic> byw, the sudo lspci -vvv > lspci.log returned *nothing*
[06:58] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: but you have now a file named lspci.log :)
[06:58] <noaXess> open it and search for your audio device
[06:58] <noaXess> !lspci
[06:59] <noaXess> lspci lists all your pci devices.. an the option -vvv give you more detailed output information
[07:01] <Colonel_Panic> ok where can I find it?
[07:02] <hbs__> 没人说话吗
[07:03] <hbs__> china whois
[07:04] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess, where can I find the lspci.log?
[07:06] <noaXess> if you run your konsle, then you start in your home dir
[07:06] <noaXess> konsole ^
[07:06] <noaXess> it should be in your home dir
[07:11] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess: http://www.pastebin.ca/1208093
[07:11] <Eskobar> LOL :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD HAHAAHAHAH LOL HAHAHAHA FUKK LOL HAHA :--------------DDD
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[07:12] <Eskobar> EI SAATANA :------------__DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdddddddddddddddddd
[07:12] <Eskobar> HAAHAHHAAHHAAHA*H*AH*AH*HAAH EI VITTU :----------_DDD LOL WANHA
[07:12] <Eskobar> WANHA LOL :D-------dDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
[07:12] <Eskobar> AHAHAHA
[07:12] <Eskobar> :DDDDDDDDDDDdd
[07:12] <Eskobar> :------------------------__DDDDDDDDDD LOLL!??!?!
[07:12] <Eskobar> =!?!?! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[07:12] <Eskobar> moro
[07:12] <Eskobar> molo
[07:16] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: can you send the alsamixe screenshot for the playback controlers?
[07:19] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: hm.. just googling.. for linux alsa EMU10k1 capture
[07:19] <Colonel_Panic> I think
[07:20] <Colonel_Panic> I already posted that...
[07:20] <noaXess> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-enterprise-47/emu10k1-alsa-microphone-does-not-work-245204/
[07:20] <noaXess> to Colonel_Panic
[07:20] <leftBlinker> i wish i was as happy as Eskobar.
[07:20] <Colonel_Panic> http://i35.tinypic.com/15r136x.png
[07:21] <Colonel_Panic> Wait... do I hit F5 to see the output devices?"
[07:21] <favro> aplay -l will show the card being used
[07:21] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: F3 playback, F4 capture, F5 all
[07:22] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: i see you have another audio device: Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)
[07:22] <noaXess> does this work?
[07:26] <junkie99> hello?
[07:27] <junkie99> anyone in here that can help me install ubuntu?
[07:28] <junkie99> hello?
[07:28] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess
[07:28] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: you
[07:29] <noaXess> :)
[07:29] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: your second audio device is integrated.. habe you tried this for recording?
[07:29] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess: I never got the input to work on it. That's the main reason I yoinked the SB card out of an old computer.
[07:29] <junkie99> ok. thanks anyway
[07:30] <Colonel_Panic> I had hoped to get the inputs working on the SB Live
[07:30] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: it shoudl work.. have also asus audio devices.. and they work
[07:30] <noaXess> i think it's only a little trick :)
[07:30] <Colonel_Panic> so what can I do to enable this device?
[07:31] <noaXess> can you send screenshots of your kmix? all, output, input, switches,...
[07:33] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[07:35] <noaXess> junkie99: just put your unbuntu live cd in your cd/dvd and install it :)
 : tried that.. didn't work
[07:40] <junkie99> just boots up like normal
[07:42] <noaXess> junkie99: hm.. have you changed the boot order in your bios?
[07:42] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess:http://i34.tinypic.com/1zl42hl.png
[07:42] <junkie99> no. how would I do that?
[07:43] <junkie99> wait.. i think I know.. I'll try and come back
[07:44] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: enable the Capture control.. just a test..
[07:45] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: justs tips..
[07:47] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: in Audacity.. what settings you use? screenshot of Audio I/O
[07:49] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: earlier i had also a sound problem.. and tried to deactivate the kmix control externam amplifier..
[07:59] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess, do I enable the Capture control in Kmix?
[08:00] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: yes
[08:00] <Colonel_Panic> Where?
[08:00] <noaXess> i think, if you use adacity and take the rigth channel it should work..
[08:01] <noaXess> send a screenshot of your adacity settings , audio i/o
[08:03] <Colonel_Panic> noaXess: http://i37.tinypic.com/mcek3d.png
[08:03] <Colonel_Panic> I've tried every setting in there and none of them work.
[08:04] <Colonel_Panic> With most of them, it says no audio device is configured, or else it starts recording but there's no signal.
[08:05] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: can you make a screenshot of the recording devices in audacity?
[08:05] <noaXess> have you also OSS installed?
[08:11] <Colonel_Panic> Dunno if OSS is installed or not.
[08:15] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: can you select oos /dev/dsp in audacity?
[08:15] <noaXess> oss ^ :)
[08:15] <Colonel_Panic> yes
[08:15] <Colonel_Panic> tried it. doesn't work
[08:16] <Colonel_Panic> "Error while opening sound device"...
[08:20] <Colonel_Panic> here are my choices for input devices in Audacity:
[08:20] <Colonel_Panic> OSS: /dev/dsp
[08:20] <Colonel_Panic> ALSA SBLive! Value [CT 4670]: ADC Capture/Stabdatrd PCM Playback (hw:0,0)
[08:20] <Colonel_Panic> ALSA SBLive! Value [CT 4670]: Mic Capture (hw:0,1)
[08:20] <Colonel_Panic> ALSA SBLive! Value [CT 4670]:Multichannel Capture/PT Playback (hw:0,2)
[08:20] <Colonel_Panic> ALSA: spdif
[08:20] <Colonel_Panic> ALSA: default
[08:20] <Colonel_Panic> JACK Audio Connection Kit: system
[08:21] <Colonel_Panic> I've tried using Ardour, and that doesn't work either
[08:21] <Colonel_Panic> and neither does the input for Skype
[08:22] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: hm
[08:22] <Colonel_Panic> In Ardour, it's the same story. Sound fiules play OK but I get no signal from input
[08:22] <Colonel_Panic> *files*
[08:22] <noaXess> Colonel_Panic: after use oss and get the error, have you restarted audacity? i had that to, but after restart audacity it worked
[08:41] <Colonel_Panic> Yeah, still getting the error, even after restarting. I'm going to bed. It's 2:40 here and I have an important meeting at 10 this morning.
[08:41] <Colonel_Panic> I
[08:41] <Colonel_Panic> I'll remain idle here in the channel though. Thanks for your help. I really do appreciate it.
[08:42] <Colonel_Panic> I'm thinking this is a result of some kind of configuration error in Linux.
[08:42] <Colonel_Panic> BTW I'm running Kubuntu Hardy on a 64-bit Core2Duo
[08:45] <radovich> what is the problem?
[08:58] <smux> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171097 : someone in this case ?
[09:06] <vikku> Hi all
[09:06] <vikku> when i try to install gcc iam getting following errror http://pastebin.com/m19b3de12
[09:07] <bittin__> sudo apt-get gcc or
[09:07] <bittin__> ?
[09:08] <favro> vikku: you need build-essential
[09:08] <favro> !build-essential
[09:09] <favro> !build-essentials
[09:09] <favro> !info build-essential
[09:13] <vikku> favro: i did that but still same err
[09:15] <favro> vikku: you have installed build-essential?
[09:15] <vikku> favro: yes i did
[09:15] <favro> vikku: it might be that you don't have the kernel headers
[09:16] <vikku> yes there were some of them missing...can you help me in this
[09:17] <favro> vikku: are you building "linux from scratch"?
[09:17] <vikku> favro : : ) yes indeed
[09:19] <favro> vikku: I don't know if the kernel heades are right for that but - sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:19] <vikku> favro : this thing i did last week, i did install headers that way
[09:20] <favro> vikku: you might need to ask someone in their chat about it - or read some more from the site
[09:22] <vikku> favor : btw i have following headers installed in my box http://pastebin.com/m57d6d0aa
[09:23] <vikku> favro: i dont think we have lfs support room anymore
[09:24] <favro> vikku: the kernel headers must be the ones for the kernel you are using now - uname -r to check what you are using
[09:26] <vikku> hmmm
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:43] <user6> #kubuntu.it
[09:43] <user6> ciao
[09:44] <user6> #kubuntu-it
[09:44] <faileas> user6: /join #kubuntu-it ;p
[09:44] <faileas> or if your using konversation, click on the channel name
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:16] <jeeb_> ку
[10:17] <jeeb_> куку
[10:17] <jeeb_> куку блин
[10:17] <favro> !ru
[10:20] <jeeb_> пдыщ
[10:21] <favro> jeeb_: this is an english chat channel
[10:23]  * SkEmO goes to sleep, nite!
[10:24] <emma_> hi everyone. whats the quickest and most painless method for updating hardy to intrepid?
[10:25] <jeeb_> hello all. how can i install rpm from mandriva to ubuntu?
[10:25] <emma_> i was hoping to do an update off the internet
[10:28] <jeeb_> kookoo
[10:31] <hischild> Good morning. I would like to know where i would go to configure KDE so it no longer shows all applications on the taskbar, but instead only show those that are on the current desktop.
[10:31] <favro> !intrepid | emma_
[10:31] <favro> !rpm | jeeb_
[10:33] <jeeb_> thks
[10:35] <emma_> favro: thanks, yes i have seen that wiki page, but it doesnt tell me if i can upgrade by using --dist-upgrade or by chaning repo sources or how..
[10:38] <favro> emma_: I don't use intrepid - someone in #ubuntu+1 will know :)
[10:38] <emma_> thanks
[10:50] <_LiNuX_> how can do force quit manually?
[10:51] <jussi01> _LiNuX_: ctrl+alt+esc click on window to kill...
[10:52] <_LiNuX_> dosn't work
[10:52] <_LiNuX_> ...
[10:52] <jussi01> _LiNuX_: or ctrl+esc and chose the process to kill
[10:53] <_LiNuX_> dosn't work
[10:53] <_LiNuX_> xm...
[10:54] <favro> _LiNuX_: trying to kill an app or the os
[10:54] <_LiNuX_> how i do that../
[10:54] <_LiNuX_> ?
[10:55] <_LiNuX_> in windows i used Alt+Ctrl+Del
[10:55] <jussi01> _LiNuX_: so ctrl + esc doesnt bring up anything?
[10:55] <ghost> Aloahe @ all
[10:55] <_LiNuX_> the only way is restart
[10:55] <_LiNuX_> jussi01:  no..
[10:56] <jussi01> _LiNuX_: are you using compiz?
[10:56] <_LiNuX_> what is that?
[10:56] <_LiNuX_> i use ubuntu
[10:56] <_LiNuX_> 8.04
[10:56] <_LiNuX_> gnore
[10:56] <jussi01> desktop effects... so probably not...
[10:56] <jussi01> _LiNuX_: you use gnome?
[10:56] <_LiNuX_> yes..
[10:56] <jussi01> _LiNuX_: please head on over to #ubuntu
[10:57] <jussi01> This is the channel for kubuntu - users of kde
[11:00] <hischild> So is it possible to have apps only show their corresponding entry on the taskbar, only on the desktop they are on?
[11:00] <_LiNuX_> whats the differend between  ubuntu and kubuntu?
[11:00] <hischild> _LiNuX_, kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses gnome.
[11:01] <jussi01> hischild: yes
[11:01] <jussi01> rightclick the taskbar, settings irrc
[11:02] <hischild> jussi01, thank you. I found it
[11:02] <_LiNuX_> what is best>?
[11:02] <jussi01> !best
[11:02] <hischild> _LiNuX_, depends on personal choice.
[11:02] <jussi01> hischild: no probs
[11:02] <hischild> jussi01, would you by chance know how the current compiz support is with kde?
[11:03] <jussi01> hischild: still average - new kwin is nice, cube comes in Kde 4.2
[11:03] <jussi01> hischild: kde4 has its own desktop effects, so nobody is really working on compiz integration
[11:05] <hischild> jussi01, would you please repeat that? my graphics card decided to reboot.
[11:05] <jussi01> [13:03:05] <jussi01> hischild: still average - new kwin is nice, cube comes in Kde 4.2
[11:05] <jussi01> [13:03:48] <jussi01> hischild: kde4 has its own desktop effects, so nobody is really working on compiz integration
[11:06] <hischild> jussi01, i see. And how would i enable / activate these desktop effects? I used gnome before yet it crashes (specifically just gnome, all other apps work) so i'm going to try KDE.
[11:07] <jussi01> hischild: on kde4?
[11:07] <hischild> jussi01, dunno, let me check
[11:08] <hischild> jussi01, yes, aptitude shows kde being at version 4
[11:08] <emilsedgh> System Settings->Desktop->Desktop Effects
[11:08] <jussi01> hischild: if you are on kde4, please head over to #kubuntu-kde4
[11:09] <hischild> jussi01, oh wait, 4.1 is released? Then i am probably mistaken in my version.
[11:10] <hischild> jussi01, ah, the help shows me the correct version number. 3.5.10 is the correct one?
[11:11] <jussi01> hischild: sounds right
[11:11] <hischild> emilsedgh, by going there it says i have to install the compiz engine, however it should already be there from my gnome installation.
[11:12] <emilsedgh> hischild: compiz? kde4 has no intergration with compiz
[11:12] <hischild> emilsedgh, read above please. I was mistaken in my version number.
[11:13] <jussi01> hischild: try just doing alt+f2 and: compiz --replace
[11:13] <emilsedgh> hischild: you are probably on kde3
[11:13] <hischild> its dinner time. Thanks anyway :-)
[11:17] <emma> That emma_ person who was in here earlier was not me. They were nick jacking.
[11:22] <stdin> emma: people are aloud to use any nick that's not in use, if you want to "lock" all your nicks see: /msg NickServ help set ENFORCE
[11:23] <emma> allowed *
[11:23] <stdin> yeah, short spelling for my convenience
[11:24] <Trollinator> how can somebody be so fucking lazy?
[11:24] <Trollinator> I mean, I
[11:24] <Trollinator> 'm lazy, alright
[11:24] <stdin> !language | Trollinator
[11:24] <Trollinator> *yawn*
[11:24] <Trollinator> as if families don't say fuck
[11:46] <maupe> i want to print something but the printer doesn't go, why?
[11:57] <sara> ciao
[11:57] <sara> ciao
[12:00] <volo> hi
[12:08] <amerigo> #windows.it
[12:08] <amerigo> ! windows
[12:22] <evilshur> hello all
[12:42] <amerigo> windows
[12:42] <amerigo> #windowss
[12:42] <Pici> amerigo: /join ##windows
[13:01] <user1> hi
[13:01] <user1> I have active 3d effects in desktop etc
[13:01] <user1> how can I configure the details of that effects (fadeing, wobbing and stuff)  what appl to install...?
[13:03] <favro> user1: you have installed compiz?
[13:04] <favro> !ccsm
[13:04] <user1> favro: I think so
[13:04] <user1> I have libcompizsomething
[13:05] <favro> install the compiz settings manager mentioned above
[13:06] <favro> !info ccsm
[13:06] <cosmofield> Is it possible to stop the Power Manager applet to start at boot? What is the proper package name for it? :/
[13:07] <favro> cosmofield: the one on the panel? - right click it - select quit - it will ask if you want it to start at boot afaik
[13:09] <cosmofield> No it does'nt, it only asks if I want to shut down the power manager, I already use Kpowersave so this one (with a yellow lightning bolt on it) is uneccesary :|
[13:10] <amerigo> hello
[13:10] <amerigo> a question please...
[13:10] <amerigo> in windows may be RIS "remote installation service"
[13:11] <amerigo> in kubuntu there is something
[13:11] <amerigo> like that
[13:11] <amerigo> what is the equivalent service
[13:11] <amerigo> ??????????????????????
[13:11] <stdin> if RIS does what I think, then you can ssh in and install packages from the command line
[13:11] <jussi01> !enter
[13:12] <favro> something like a pxe install?
[13:13] <noaXess> i need qmake for build qt4 apps.. in which package is this included? i searched and found qt4-dev-tools but there is no qmake included
[13:13] <amerigo> my trouble is that i had to replace OS in a Xp machine , but i have only kubuntu that may work in this way trought the line
[13:14] <amerigo> LAN
[13:14] <stdin> noaXess: libqt4-dev
[13:14] <noaXess> amerigo: krfb
[13:14] <amerigo> noaXess: what is for?
[13:15] <jussi01> !ssh
[13:15] <noaXess> amerigo: sorry.. wrong answer.. haven't read exactly your problem
[13:16] <amerigo> ok jussi01: but that notebook is no configurated for my LAN
[13:16] <amerigo> and I can't acces to it
[13:16] <faileas> amerigo: RIS is kinda like netinstall i guess.
[13:17] <faileas> + using... what's that booting off network card thing called?
[13:17] <amerigo> It start and after POST .... black screen and blinking cursor
[13:17] <noaXess> stdin: thanks.
[13:18] <amerigo> faileas: I don't understand
[13:19] <faileas> amerigo: er.. multiple things.
[13:20] <noaXess> stdin: you know ksynaptics? it's off.. now to configur my synaptics touchpad i need touchfreeze from http://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net/dl.html
[13:21] <noaXess> if i won't install all the devel tools tools to compile touchfreeze, is there another way to get a deb package for my system?
[13:23] <stdin> noaXess: there's only a package for intrepid now
[13:23] <noaXess> stdin: backport it?
[13:23] <noaXess> from touchfreeze?
[13:23] <stdin> but ksynaptics works for me in Hardy
[13:24] <noaXess> stdin: but it's not in repos
[13:24] <stdin> oh yeah, I had it from feisty
[13:24] <arkygeek> hi all.  I am having a huge amount of trouble with direct rendering wrt googleEarth
[13:25] <stdin> noaXess: I guess install the feisty deb then
[13:25] <noaXess> stdin: hm.. okay..
[13:25] <arkygeek> 24" iMac w/ GeForce 7300
[13:25] <noaXess> stdin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ksynaptics
[13:25] <stdin> noaXess: actually, there's a package for gutsy, that'll be better
[13:26] <stdin> umm, yeah that one :p
[13:26] <noaXess> its the gutsy one.. gutsy was after feisty right?
[13:26] <noaXess> ok :)
[13:26] <noaXess> stdin: what about installig the touchfreez from intrepid?
[13:27] <arkygeek> glxgears gives me 4180+ fps when run alone.  If I launch GE and try glxgears it drops to 4.9fps
[13:27] <arkygeek> any ideas?
[13:28] <stdin> noaXess: you'll get dependency errors unless you have qt 4.4.1
[13:29] <noaXess> stdin: ok..
[13:29] <stdin> noaXess: if you have the KDE 4 ppa, then you *probably* could install it
[14:10] <veralex12> buuu!
[14:22] <JuJuBee> I am trying to get multiple desktops working in kde 4, should I use ENVY to install ATI drivers?
[14:22] <ghostcube> never use envy
[14:22] <ghostcube> :|
[14:22] <ghostcube> for nothing
[14:22] <JuJuBee> Like it that much eh!
[14:23] <ghostcube> no it kills youre system
[14:23] <ghostcube> thats fact
[14:23] <JuJuBee> K, I will stay away from it then...
[14:23] <ghostcube> just inatll manually this must work
[14:23] <ghostcube> *install
[14:23] <JuJuBee> What is the best way to install ATI drivers..
[14:23] <ghostcube> i can show u a howto
[14:24] <ghostcube> JuJuBee: what crad is htis
[14:24] <ghostcube> bah typos
[14:24] <JuJuBee> I have multiple desktops working with kde 3.5 but it wont work with kde 4 for some reason
[14:25] <ghostcube> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[14:25] <Pici> ghostcube: FYI, envy-ng is in the Hardy repositories
[14:26] <ghostcube> Pici: i know i asking why
[14:26] <ghostcube> its just shit
[14:26] <Pici> ghostcube: The profanity isn't needed.
[14:26] <ghostcube> Pici:join cf channel pls
[14:26] <ghostcube> and tell them about envy
[14:26] <ghostcube> :)
[14:26] <ghostcube> better dont do so we have the trouble in support not u here
[14:27] <ghostcube> so i say envy !! NO!!!
[14:27] <ghostcube> thtas it
[14:27] <Pici> And the -ng version is acceptable enough to be included in the repos.  I'd personally use it as a last resort if the restricted drivers fail to work.
[14:27] <ghostcube> just install manually no need for script
[14:27] <ghostcube> thtas fact
[14:28] <JuJuBee> How do I install restricted drivers?
[14:28] <Pici> Installing manually causes issues with kernel upgrades.
[14:28] <ghostcube> Pici: ever used envy and tried to change anything or u got a destroyed glx ?
[14:28] <Pici> JuJuBee: Run jockey-kde
[14:28] <ghostcube> so join compiz-fusion and just look
[14:28] <ghostcube> not more
[14:29] <ghostcube> u will see the probs then
[14:29] <JuJuBee> Pici : no proprietary drivers in use.
[14:29] <Pici> JuJuBee: Anything listed as being available?
[14:30] <JuJuBee> Pici : I tried DL'ing them from ATI and installing, but that did not fix the problem.
[14:30] <JuJuBee> No...
[14:30] <Pici> JuJuBee: How new is your card?
[14:30] <JuJuBee> Old... 9600 Mobility
[14:30] <JuJuBee> Laptop
[14:30] <ghostcube> so no need for the fglrx
[14:30] <ghostcube> just try the ati driver from xorg
[14:31] <ghostcube> much faster on that card
[14:31] <JuJuBee> are you saying dl from xorg or in repo's?
[14:31] <ghostcube> just change in xorg.conf to ati
[14:31] <ghostcube> its shiped by xorg
[14:33] <JuJuBee> Change this line...  Driver      "fglrx"  TO...
[14:33] <JuJuBee> Driver      "ATI"
[14:33] <ghostcube> JuJuBee: pls read the howto i gave u
[14:33] <ghostcube> to revert to the xorg drivers first
[14:33] <ghostcube> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:37] <JuJuBee> ghostcube : do  you suggest the Ubuntu way or the manual way?
[14:40] <ghostcube> JuJuBee: just remove the fglrx ones
[14:40] <ghostcube> its down the page
[14:41] <ghostcube> and change to the ati ones
[14:41] <ghostcube> u dont need fgrlx
[14:43] <JuJuBee> Are you referring to Removing Mesa Drivers?
[14:46] <deamoon>  who knowhow it works  vsftpd???
[14:46] <deamoon> i installed it
[14:46] <deamoon> but cant find anywere
[14:46] <deamoon> :D
[15:00] <lulfish> So if this IRC channel looks like nobody is talking, is nobody talking, or am I doing something wrong?
[15:01] <faileas> yes
[15:01] <lulfish> ...
[15:01]  * genii puts on coffee
[15:02] <genii> lulfish: You're fine. It's just quiet here at the moment
[15:04] <deamoon> most off the time is like thaty
[15:05] <lulfish> ok
[15:06]  * genii hands out large Kubuntu mugs of delicious coffee
[15:06] <faileas> lulfish: you asked a or question. also as long as you don't ping out if you don't see anything happening nothing is happening
[15:20] <miklos> anybody could recomend a sofrware for gprs?
[15:20] <Tm_T> kppp
[15:20] <miklos> ok
[15:20] <Tm_T> and/or networkmanager
[15:21] <miklos> works with mobilphone?
[15:21] <Tm_T> yes
[15:21] <miklos> thanx
[15:22] <miklos> I"ll try
[15:46] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:47] <baudthief> hello
[15:48] <BluesKaj> hey Tm_T, I just dropped in for a few mins to see how thinhs are going.
[15:48] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: same here (:)
[15:48] <BluesKaj> err things
[15:48] <BluesKaj> :)
[16:05] <surgy> hello
[16:05] <surgy> can someone please tell me how to figure out a particular partition id ? IE: (HD0,1)
[16:07] <s0101> Hi
[16:08] <surgy> anyone ?
[16:08] <s0101> when i try to update my system i recive a error message that the index is old
[16:10] <genii> surgy: Something like: grub   hd0,0=/dev/sda1    hd0,1=/dev/sda2       hd1,0=/dev/sdb1  hd2,2=/dev/sdc3
[16:11] <s0101> http://pastebin.com/m56319276
[16:11] <surgy> genii: umm yeah, but how would i figure out which hd0,x corresponds with what sda?
[16:11] <genii> s0101: Are you doing something like:    sudo apt-get update
[16:11] <s0101> the first time i had this problem was after i installed ie4 in wine to get active x towork and then i changed someting in the update file
[16:12] <genii> surgy: hd0,0=sda1 hd0,1=sda2 hd0,2=sda3 hd0,3=sda4   and so on. Notice the trend in numbering
[16:12] <s0101> i have tryed all the ways to update
[16:12] <s0101> same everywere
[16:13] <surgy> ok fdisk -l shows that my ntfs partition is on sda5 so therefor it should be partition hd0,4 for grub right?
[16:14] <genii> surgy: Yes
[16:14] <surgy> ok let me see if i can boot into that
[16:14] <surgy> brb if it doesnt work
[16:14] <genii> s0101: Since it seems to be a wine/ie4 complication which caused this, perhaps ask them in #winehq about it
[16:14] <s0101> some index files could not be dowloaded, they have been ignored or not be able to be connected due to network problem, an older version of the index will be used if its possible if not it will be ignred
[16:15] <s0101> translated from swedish
[16:15] <s0101> ignored
[16:15] <Pici> s0101: Are you on irc from the same computer that is having an issue?
[16:16] <Pici> s0101: Oh... nevermind. I see the issue
[16:16] <s0101> it tells me to check the adress in the storage (yes i am on the same computer my network is working perfekt)
[16:16] <Pici> s0101: Edgy is no longer supported
[16:16] <Pici> !edgy
[16:16] <s0101> i have hardy heron 8,04
[16:17] <Pici> s0101: Can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[16:17] <Pici> !paste
[16:18] <zarlino> hi all
[16:18] <zarlino> i just read this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuReleaseSchedule
[16:19] <zarlino> is it for real?
[16:19] <s0101> what is the command from the terminal?
[16:19] <s0101> to /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:19] <s0101> i tried with sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:19] <Pici> s0101: less /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:19] <Pici> s0101: its a file, not a command
[16:19] <zarlino> is kubuntu really planning to change the release cycle?
[16:20] <s0101> http://pastebin.com/m3f91e653
[16:20] <s0101> check pastebinm
[16:21] <surgy> ok i tried booting windows using the hd0,1 and hd0,4 partition and neither seam to work
[16:21] <s0101> wait i missed sorry
[16:21] <s0101> i send again
[16:22] <Pici> s0101: okay
[16:23] <s0101> i belive this line is the problem deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main they told me to add that before when i wanted to get ie4 and wine to work
[16:25] <surgy> when i enter the command fdisk -l i receave this (http://pastebin.com/m3e30aebe) and this is my grub/menu.lst (http://pastebin.com/m21503a61) can someone help me make it so that i can boot into my windows partition?
[16:28] <s0101> how can i edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:28] <s0101> ?
[16:28] <surgy> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:29] <surgy> when i enter the command fdisk -l i receave this (http://pastebin.com/m3e30aebe) and this is my grub/menu.lst (http://pastebin.com/m21503a61)) can someone help me make it so that i can boot into my windows partition?
[16:30] <s0101> still get this error when i update
[16:30] <s0101> Misslyckades med att hämta http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[16:30] <s0101> Vissa indexfiler kunde inte hämtas, de har ignorerats eller så har de gamla använts istället.
[16:31] <s0101> could not get the index file
[16:31] <Tm_T> why you use us mirror?
[16:31] <Pici> s0101: Can you pastebin the entire /etc/apt/sources.list file
[16:31] <Pici> s0101: And can you tell me if ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  reports anything?
[16:32] <s0101> http://pastebin.com/m568397ff
[16:33] <_2> dapper question, howto get flash working in konqueror ?
[16:33] <s0101> how can i acces the second one from terminal?
[16:33] <s0101> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[16:34] <Pici> yes
[16:34] <Pici> s0101: remove line 56 (the last line) from /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:35] <surgy> a guy just told me that my problem is that my swap partition is at the beginning of my drive and it needs to be deleted and moved to the end of my drive, does this sound genuine? or more like bs? and also how would i go about doing this if it is in fact genuine?
[16:35] <s0101> thank you
[16:36] <s0101> it solved it i removed 1 line before that but i forgot that line
[16:41] <surgy> umm i need help
[16:41] <surgy> when i enter the command fdisk -l i receave this (http://pastebin.com/m3e30aebe) and this is my grub/menu.lst (http://pastebin.com/m21503a61))) can someone help me make it so that i can boot into my windows partition?
[16:44] <genii> surgy: Your windows install was on "Drive D:" or "Drive C:" ?   Because you have 2 windows partitions there, a fat32 and an ntfs
[16:44] <rob> hello everybody
[16:44] <surgy> genii well i dont know where the fat32 part came from but the biggest partition is where winxp is
[16:45] <rob> anybody know how to fix this? The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[16:46] <rob> apt-setup or apt-get update doesn't work
[16:46] <ahox> rob, it actually should tell you in the error message what to run
[16:46] <ahox> something like dpkg --reconfigure
[16:46] <genii> surgy: the 0,4 should be right for sda5. Have you tried to boot into the other one? 0,3 or so
[16:47] <surgy> genii: i have tried 0,0 through 0,7
[16:47] <mifauna> hello
[16:47] <surgy> genii: i was told that im having this problem becuase my swap is at the beginning of my harddrive instead of at the end
[16:47] <ahox> rob: sry, try dpkg-reconfigure -a\]
[16:47] <genii> surgy: I think there may be some issue of loading an os from an extended partition
[16:47] <ahox> rob: sry, try dpkg-reconfigure -a
[16:48] <genii> surgy: It should not matter at all where the swap is
[16:48] <surgy> genii: i didnt think sop
[16:48] <surgy> so*
[16:48] <surgy> genii: so how do i fix my windows?
[16:49] <genii> surgy: Did you move the wondows partition from some other place?
[16:49] <surgy> no
[16:49] <genii> wondows->windows
[16:49] <surgy> genii: i started with a 500 gb hdd, i then split it for win2k and then install winxp on the other part and have recently replaced win2k with kubuntu
[16:50] <rob> heres what it gives me: rob@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[16:50] <rob>  * Disabling power management...                                         [ OK ]
[16:50] <rob>  * Checking battery state...                                             [ OK ]
[16:50] <rob>  * Stopping ACPI services...                                             [ OK ]
[16:50] <rob>  * Stopping Hardware abstraction layer hald                              [ OK ]
[16:50] <rob>  * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ OK ]
[16:50] <rob>  * Starting ACPI services...                                             [ OK ]
[16:50] <rob>  * Starting Hardware abstraction layer hald                              [ OK ]
[16:50] <rob> debconf: DbDriver "templatedb": could not write /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat-new: No space left on device
[16:50] <rob> rob@ubuntu:~$
[16:51] <rob> no space left on device it says ive got 10.2 gbs left
[16:51] <genii> Gah
[16:51] <surgy> !pastbin || rob
[16:51] <surgy> !paste || rob
[16:52] <genii> surgy: What exact message you get (possibly from Grub) when trying 0,4 ?
[16:52] <genii> rob: Your /var  partition is full
[16:52] <surgy> genii:  mind if i go get that for you reasl quick?
[16:53] <genii> surgy: Sure, I'm here all day
[16:53] <cosmofield> Hi, how do I use visudo? I can access the sudoers file as root but I can't insert any text :|
[16:53] <surgy> brb
[16:53] <rob> ok sorry about the flooding
[16:54] <rob> so the /var is full? is there anyway i can increase size of it?
[16:56] <rob> this kubuntu 8.04 that I am running is is installed by wubi and is installed into a file in windows xp.
[16:57] <surgy> genii: the error message when trying to boot from (hd0,4) is as follows: "Error 12: invalid device requested"
[16:59] <genii> rob: I'm not familiar with the inner workings of Wubi. There must be some way to increase the size of it however.
[16:59] <genii> surgy: OK
[16:59] <faddat1> I need to make a launcher menu for a computer designed for the elderly.  Is there a launcher application in KDE that I can configure to launch 4 applications, or should I make one on my own?
[17:00] <faddat1> basically I need to have a menu that allows users to launch applications by pressing the 1-9 keys, for example, press 1 to check your e-mail, press 2 to use the Internet, etc....
[17:01] <faddat1> brb (toilet... feel free to PM me or e-mail me at faddat@gmail.com)
[17:02] <genii> surgy: What says it when using 0,1    ?
[17:03] <surgy> lol let me check :)
[17:03] <rob> $sudo apt-get clean this command worked but only freed up 550 MB
[17:03] <genii> rob: You can usually also remove a lot of the archived logs in /var/log
[17:04] <rob> adept now works again woooohoooo!
[17:04] <rob> thank you
[17:08]  * genii hands surgy a coffee
[17:08] <surgy> genii: same error "Error 12: invalid device requested"
[17:08] <genii> surgy: OK
[17:09] <Pu7o> two quick questions
[17:09] <Pu7o> in KDE 4, is it possible to change the taskbar to a color other than black?
[17:10] <surgy> Pu7o: you can do that in kde 3
[17:10] <genii> surgy: The "Partition table entries are not in disk order" in your pastebin of fdisk result seems interesting but not sure it is related
[17:10] <Pu7o> ...which is why I'm asking for KDE 4
[17:10] <Tm_T> Pu7o: try #kubuntu-kde4
[17:10] <Pu7o> thanks
[17:11] <surgy> genii:  you think there might be some credit in what that one guy was saying about my swap being at the begging of my hdd?
[17:12] <genii> surgy: I still think it's unlikely that would cause any grief. I've put swap at beginning many times without incident
[17:12] <surgy> genii: ok
[17:13] <surgy> "
[17:13] <surgy> 12 : Invalid device requested
[17:13] <surgy> This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors.
[17:15] <surgy> genii: does my grub even look good to you?
[17:15] <surgy> genii: my menu.lst i mean
[17:16] <genii> surgy: Yes the menu.lst syntax looks fine.
[17:17] <genii> surgy: Since the sda2 partition seems to take the entire disk I believe the other partitions are extended
[17:17] <genii> 1-60800(sda2)   encompasses all the others for instance
[17:18] <o0Chris0o_> !kde
[17:18] <surgy> genii: ok....
[17:18] <surgy> genii: googles not being very nice today
[17:19] <surgy> !msg
[17:19] <o0Chris0o_> got to be nice to google for it to be nice to you :D
[17:25] <surgy> yeah im not finding anything with a simaler solution
[17:26] <o0Chris0o> what problem are you having?
[17:26] <surgy> grub error 12
[17:26] <o0Chris0o> hmm not really familiar with grub
[17:26] <surgy> cant seam to figure out how to load my ntfs partition with grub, either that or im doing it right and theres another [problem
[17:27] <o0Chris0o> !grub
[17:27] <o0Chris0o> tried those?
[17:28] <o0Chris0o> the second link
[17:28] <ubuntu_> hola alguien me puede ayudar com ubuntu?
[17:28] <ubuntu_> encerio necesito ayuda.. T.T
[17:28] <o0Chris0o> !sp
[17:28] <ubuntu_> quiero instalarlo pero formatie sin querer mi disco duro T.T
[17:29] <Tm_T> !es
[17:29] <surgy> yeah
[17:30] <surgy> i guess im just going to have to format all of my partitions and start over...... :(
[17:30] <josh> I was running Suse 11 and my USB Mouse & Keyboard just stopped working...
[17:30] <josh> is there anyway i can fix this with a command?
[17:30] <surgy> !suse
[17:30] <ubuntu_> yes :( format mi particion
[17:31] <josh> surgy, i had no choice but to come into that IRC
[17:31] <josh> surgy, since my USB Mouse and Keyboard went idk where else to go...
[17:31] <josh> im on Kubuntu KDE 3.5 right
[17:31] <josh> now*
[17:31] <ubuntu_> yes.. :(
[17:31] <josh> just hoping one of you guys might have some experience with Suse 11
[17:32] <ubuntu_> Cd Boot not instalation T.t
[17:32] <o0Chris0o> josh try #suse ;D
[17:32] <josh> #suse
[17:32] <josh> woops
[17:32] <BluesKaj> surgy,check you grub menu and look for windows chaim=nloader
[17:32] <ubuntu_> Cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!
[17:32] <BluesKaj> err chainloader
[17:32] <ubuntu_> Ok ..
[17:32] <ubuntu_> :(
[17:33] <surgy> josh didnt mean to be rude just unfamiliar with suse, was
[17:33] <o0Chris0o> same here
[17:33] <surgy> just asking ubotu what iot was
[17:33] <ubuntu_> no men ... :/
[17:33] <surgy> BluesKaj: my menu.lst has chainloader set to +1 for windows on hd0,1
[17:33] <BluesKaj> btw, changing linux OS's isn't going to solve your grub menu problem
[17:33] <ubuntu_> speak spanish?
[17:34] <stdin> !es | ubuntu_
[17:34] <BluesKaj> surgy, post it on pastebin...lets have a look
[17:34] <surgy> BluesKaj: i was thinking that it was a partitioning problem..
[17:35] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[17:35] <josh> !pastbin
[17:35] <jim88> hi all ... can someone tell me if they have experienced a problem printing legal size on the HP1505n printer?
[17:35] <josh> !pastebin
[17:35] <surgy> http://pastebin.com/m11b878b7
[17:36] <genii> surgy: I think the problem is thus: sda2 contins all the extended partitions of sda5 sda6 sda7. So in this scenario sda2 is what has the OSes on it. So grub wants hd0,1 for sda2. But within sda2 on the secand section of it is where the actual OS you want is. But there is not really a way to specify to Grub hd0,1,a      or such
[17:37] <surgy> something like map (sda2) (hd0,1) perhaps?
[17:38] <surgy> BluesKaj: you might also have a look at this http://pastebin.com/m133c6296
[17:39] <genii> surgy: I believe map is just to change the order of drives in a software based way from in grub, not to sub-map partitons onto an existing partition
[17:39] <surgy> genii: oh :(
[17:40] <surgy> BluesKaj: when i select the windows option in the grub menu to boot into windows i receave this error " Error 12: invalid device requested"
[17:47] <BluesKaj> wow surgy , you've got quite set of partitions there ..dunno what to tell you ..it looks abit busy
[17:51] <surgy> BluesKaj: yeah
[17:52] <surgy> BluesKaj: thats why i was saying that im just going to have to delete every partition and start from scratch
[17:52] <phitoo> Hello! I'm trying to run kubuntu intrepid alpha 5, but I can't login because kdm has "no greeter widget plugin loaded". Is there a work around?
[18:10] <Tm_T> DuGi: hi you're there?
[18:15] <florin91> hello
[18:15] <o0Chris0o> !hi | florin91
[18:15] <florin91> how i start kde or gnome ? to choose between ?
[18:16] <o0Chris0o> !dual
[18:16] <o0Chris0o> !dualboot
[18:17] <florin91> i know it was a command but i dont remember anymore
[18:18] <florin91> and i didn`t said any thing about windows dual boot
[18:18] <florin91> i said about desktop managers
[18:18] <florin91> kde and gnome
[18:19] <florin91> now i have installed both kde and gnome and kde is starting
[18:19] <florin91> i want to put gnome default
[18:21] <stdin> florin91: just select the option from the login manager
[18:22] <florin91> hmm there isn`t an option to write in terminal ?
[18:23] <florin91> when I see the login part, I see big and not all screen (resolution problems)
[18:26] <florin91> hmm there isn`t an option to write in terminal ?
[18:26] <florin91>  when I see the login part, I see big and not all screen (resolution problems)
[18:26] <stdin> I would say use "startx" then "startkde" or "gnome-session", but startx will probably start gnome or KDE anyway
[18:32] <florin91>  in the terminal ?
[18:32] <stdin> yes
[18:32] <florin91> just startx simple ?
[18:33] <florin91> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[18:33] <florin91> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[18:34] <florin91> or
[18:34] <florin91> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[18:34] <florin91> Fatal server error:
[18:34] <florin91> Server is already active for display 0
[18:34] <florin91> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[18:34] <florin91> 	and start again.
[18:34] <Tm_T> !paste | florin91
[18:34] <Agent_bob> someone have static ip setup ?   can you help me out with setting the default gateway ?
[18:35] <Agent_bob> is the keyword in /etc/network/interfaces "gateway" ?
[18:36] <stdin> Agent_bob: yeah
[18:37] <Agent_bob> stdin is the iface line as simple as   iface eth0    ?
[18:38] <stdin> Agent_bob: something like "iface eth0 inet static"
[18:38] <Agent_bob> stdin i'm just not very familear with the syntax...    ty.
[18:38] <stdin> I haven't had to mess with it for a while, so most of this is from memory
[18:38] <stabbe> What is the name of the ati driver, cant seem to find it?
[18:38] <Agent_bob> yeah me too.      i'm going to test.
[18:39] <Agent_bob> !ati | stabbe
[18:39] <stabbe> thank you
[18:39] <stdin> stabbe: use the Hardware Drivers Manager, from KMenu -> System
[18:39] <o0Chris0o> which gfx cards are very linux friendy?
[18:39] <o0Chris0o> friendly*
[18:40] <stdin> intel is probably the best, but that's not technically a "card"
[18:40] <stdin> after that I'd say nVidia
[18:40] <o0Chris0o> cool, I got another question, gonna have to go to kde4 now :D
[18:41] <josh> okay nvm ....
[18:41] <josh> nvm
[18:42] <josh> well ima give suse another try....
[18:52] <Yuki> Hello
[18:56] <Yuki> Anyone here?
[18:57] <Falah> Out of curiosity, Pidgin 2.5.1 has been out since Aug 31, any reason it hasn't made it to the repos?
[18:58] <oobe_> does anyone know how to make xchat reconnect automatically if i get disconnected
[19:00] <Yuki> This is a real stupid question, but where can I download the latest version of kubuntu to put on a cd to install it on another laptop? Don't want this laptop to be formatted :P
[19:02] <stdin> Yuki: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[19:03] <Yuki> And it just downloads to a file or something so I can burn a cd?
[19:05] <deamoon> Any Lithuanian geeks here? :D
[19:09]  * Tm_T slaps HK_Away 
[19:09] <HK_Away> ...
[19:09] <Tm_T> HK_Away: please don't use awaynick
[19:09] <HK_Away> right
[19:09] <Tm_T> or other public away methods
[19:18] <mifauna> hello
[19:21] <xbxbxb> does hotplugging an USB device work even before I login and KDE starts? that is, does udev create block devices for it in /dev before I login with my user name?
[19:33] <genii> xbxbxb: iDEALLY THATS HOW IT WORKS, YES
[19:33] <genii> Bah capslock
[19:33] <xbxbxb> genii:  thanks
[19:34] <genii> np
[19:34] <xbxbxb> is there a reason you said 'ideally'? :) doesn't it work in "real life"?
[19:36] <genii> xbxbxb: Some usb devices don't always recognise properly if plugged in during poweron/bootup but only if plugged in afterwards
[19:38] <xbxbxb> genii: hmm I see... to give a little more context, I'd like to share my home folder with two PCs I have that both run (k)ubuntu. And I want to share it on an external USB harddrive that is encrypted. The only way to get it work so far is to login as root before and decrypt & mount the drive, then login with my normal user name.
[19:38] <xbxbxb> Do you have a better approach?
[19:39] <xbxbxb> a lot of people told me that it's not a problem to share a home folder in that way, but the root-logging in is getting on my nerves
[19:40] <GatunoxD> hola
[19:41] <genii> xbxbxb: Nothing immediate comes to mind
[19:41] <xbxbxb> genii:  do you think my approach/idea is bad in any way?
[19:41] <phitoo> Hello! I'm trying to run kubuntu intrepid alpha 5 (dist-upgrade from hardy), but I can't login because kdm has "no greeter widget plugin loaded". Is there a work around?
[19:48] <tobor_> Hi all - just noticed when I try to cd to a dir thats not there, my bash shell seems to try to find the closests match and changes to that dir?  Can anyone tell me where this gets initialized/eneabled/setup?
[19:49] <tobor_> *closest
[19:55] <genii> back
[19:56] <genii> xbxbxb: I previously ran two separate installs of linux sharing a common /home which created problems
[20:01] <xbxbxb> genii:  what kind of problems? solvable?
[20:04] <RichardBH> hi
[20:05] <RichardBH> i uninstalled a load of kde4 stuff to save space (anything with kde4 in the package name) but now none of my windows in kde3 have a title bar?
[20:06] <RichardBH> is there an easy way to fix this?
[20:08] <genii> xbxbxb: It was on a networked drive and when attempting to run both (from different boxes) would cause problems of file locking, especially on firefox. Also when switching between two linuxes on same box having a shared swap area was causing other probs especially when not clean shutting down
[20:08] <genii> Apologies on lag, work is requiring me here often
[20:09] <genii> RichardBH: Perhaps you accidentally removed kdelibs4    which is actually for kde3 and not kde4 (kdelibs5 is for kde4)
[20:09] <RichardBH> genii: that sounds horribly familiar
[20:09] <RichardBH> oh no, it says its installed
[20:11] <genii> RichardBH: You could sort of "refresh" the regular kde3 install by something like       sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[20:11] <genii> RichardBH: So that if anything got wiped out accidentally it *should* reinstall those parts
[20:12] <RichardBH> ah, thankyou
[20:12] <RichardBH> i htought something like that might work, but I wasnt sure which package needed reinstalling
[20:13] <RichardBH> lets try - brb
[20:13] <genii> RichardBH: Also, in Compiz this sometimes happens of the missing maximize/minimize/close bar but in that case is usually the window decorator neds reloading
[20:14] <xbxbxb> genii:  no reason to apologize, work has priority. and thanks for your input.
[20:14] <xbxbxb> genii:  so the problems only came up when running both at the same time?
[20:14] <genii> xbxbxb: Yes, in that case. Except that I also mistakenly thought having them use same swap partition would be OK which it wasn't
[20:15] <genii> (when installed on same box)
[20:15] <RichardBH> no luck :(
[20:16] <xbxbxb> oh ok, genii
[20:16] <genii> RichardBH: Also, in Compiz this sometimes happens of the missing maximize/minimize/close bar but in that case is usually the window decorator neds reloading
[20:16] <andriijas> how do i make an application launch upon login on kde?
[20:16] <RichardBH> genii - i can use kwin --replace to give me my bars back
[20:17] <RichardBH> but i have to do it everytime i login
[20:17] <genii> RichardBH: It's a Compiz issue then
[20:17] <xbxbxb> genii:  I'm using compiz and I noticed that, too. what do I have to do to get my title bar back?
[20:18] <dragon200> how do yo do?
[20:18] <RichardBH> genii - bearing in mind i dont have compiz, how can i stop it trying to be there?
[20:18] <genii> For the Compiz no title bar thing I usually do: alt-f2  kde-window-decorator --replace        <- RichardBH and xbxbxb
[20:19] <xbxbxb> thanks
[20:19] <stefan__> heyho, i've installed the package kubuntu-desktop and when i start a session with KDE, ther comes the this failure: "Call to lnuser Temp failed (temporary directories full?) Check your installation." what ist the problem?
[20:20] <genii> RichardBH: If you don't want it to load compiz, make sure kwin is the window manager and that session saving is on, then do a logoff. Then logon again and set session saving off and it will always come up to how you left it when you exited the time it was set to save your settings.
[20:23] <genii> stefan__: That indicates you don't have permissions to read or write in your home directory.Did you chmod or chown something there recently??
[20:25] <stefan__> sorry my english is not so good, i dont understand your question totaly
[20:26] <RichardBH> genii - i installed compiz again, enabled the desktop effects and then disabled them and its working now - thanks
[20:31] <genii> stefan__: If for instance the user name you use to login is "fred"     then the directory /home/fred      and all it's contents should belong to fred
[20:32] <stefan__> jear, that is so
[20:34] <genii> stefan__: eg: my username is "user"  so when I do command:    ls -l ~           I get this result: http://pastebin.com/m1767bd54
[20:36] <stefan__> i get the same result
[20:37] <Tm_T> wrrooooom hi PhilRod
[20:38] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[20:38] <genii> stefan__: Also there should be a result like: drwx------ 6 user user 4096 2008-09-22 09:35 kdecache-user                    for command: ls -ld /var/tmp/*$(whoami)
[20:38] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm on khardy, and the usermanagement disappeared from kcontrol
[20:39] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i get it back?
[20:44] <genii> stefan__: I still believe it may be some item or file further down in the directory structure of your home directory
[20:44] <genii> (which is not owned by you)
[20:44] <sumo_su> hmmm is it normal that my main linux partition (the one i'm using) is not mounted in the fstab?
[20:45] <genii> stefan__: I would suggest if for instance the username is "fred"  :    sudo chown -hR fred:fred /home/fred
[20:46] <genii> sumo_su: If the /   (root directory) does not get mounted it is unlikely your system will even come up at all.
[20:47] <genii> MetaMorfoziS: install (or reinstall) package called kde-guidance
[20:48] <genii> bah, they left a moment before help arrived
[20:49] <PhilRod> heya Tm_T!
[20:49] <Tm_T> hi hi son
[20:49] <PhilRod> just off to get dinner - catch you in a bit
[20:49] <Tm_T> have a good meal
[20:51] <matt90> can anyone suggest a good guide to linux commands?
[20:51] <matt90> most of the books I've seen are a bit basic
[20:52] <sumo_su> genii: the funny thing is that it does come up:)  I will reboot and check again...
[20:54] <miujin> i habe fixed the problem
[20:55] <matt90> no?
[20:55] <genii> matt90: A web page with some of the most useful ones to remember http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml
[20:55] <blackflag> Hello all :) How can I rename my eth1 to eth0? I found in google something about "iftab". But I dont have such file on my system. Can someone help?
[20:56] <matt90> cheers genii
[20:57] <genii> blackflag: Those values are inside the udev system. 1 minute I'll find the file
[20:58] <sumo_su> hmm doesnt look mounted in the fstab
[20:58] <genii> blackflag: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules            is the file. It assigns ethX names based on mac address
[20:59] <genii> sumo_su: Caould you pastebin the fstab?
[20:59] <genii> bleh typos
[20:59] <Tm_T> genii: more coffee?
[20:59] <genii> Tm_T: Probably could use it :)
[20:59] <Tm_T> heh
[21:00] <genii> miujin: Good to hear it is solved.
[21:02] <leumas> can sum1 help wit dis issue;any tym i close dolphin, it pops up an error msg:unable to save bookmarks in \home\leumas\.kde\share\apps\d3lphin\bookmarks.xml.reported error was permission denied.wat do i do?
[21:03] <sumo_su> genii: http://pastie.org/277278
[21:04] <sumo_su> my install is in sda3 (flagged as boot drive)
[21:04] <genii> Reading
[21:05] <genii> sumo_su: Thats pretty unusual.
[21:06] <genii> sumo_su: When you issue only command:   mount        what does it say is /     ?
[21:07] <genii> leumas: sudo shown -hR leumas:leumas \home\leumas\.kde
[21:08] <sumo_su> just mount? it tells me hmmm... stuff.
[21:08] <genii> leumas: And in future do not do things like:   sudo dolphin
[21:09] <leumas> genii: shud i run dat in konsole?
[21:09] <genii> leumas: Run the              sudo shown -hR leumas:leumas \home\leumas\.kde                 in Konsole, yes
[21:10] <genii> sumo_su: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)             on my box is the relevant line for instanc e
[21:12] <leumas> genii: this is wat i got: sudo: shown: command not found
[21:12] <sumo_su> genii: strange that it works nicely without being mounted
[21:15] <genii> leumas: not shown      chown
[21:16] <blackflag> cool, rebooting did it! thanks!!
[21:16] <genii> leumas: My error
[21:16] <genii> leumas: Run the              sudo chown -hR leumas:leumas \home\leumas\.kde                 in Konsole, yes
[21:16] <genii> leumas: I just corrected the typo for you there so you could cut and paste it
[21:17] <leumas> genii: tanx
[21:17] <genii> blackflag: np... I had this same issue when I swapped out an adapter before and it puzzled me a long time
[21:19] <blackflag> :) yes!
[21:19] <sumo_su> genii: thanks for your help i'm gonna check what happens when i mount it
[21:20] <genii> AFK work needs me a few minutes at least
[21:22] <leumas> genii: chown: cannot access `homeleumas.kde': No such file or directory
[21:31] <Finswimmer> hello, today i have installed 8.04. i want to have firefox 3.0.1 with portogues (brasil). but it does not work. i have installed mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-br and ubufox and the language switcher, and the language package from mozilla (the xpi one)
[21:48] <Finswimmer> is here some active? or is it a problem of mine irc?
[21:49] <Tm_T> we are just in idle mode
[21:49] <Finswimmer> hmm. ok ;)
[21:53] <genii> leumas: sudo chown -hR leumas:leumas \home\leumas\.kde              please note the \ between home and leumas
[21:55] <aleboco> hi guys, i recently changed repositories leaving on only security and recommended and excluding backports and updates. is there any way to roll back the system?
[22:00] <genii> aleboco: You may have file /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list     on your system. IOf so you can use it as a new starting point
[22:00] <avinash> hi
[22:01] <avinash> hi all
[22:01] <avinash> i am new to this.
[22:01] <aleboco> genii, my sources.list is ok i believe. i just believe i still have installed the versions from backports
[22:01] <avinash> can anyone plz help me to explain more about this
[22:01] <aleboco> genii, i thought the system will roll back changing the repositories
[22:06] <aleboco> ciao ragazzi, nessuno sta avendo problemi con la scheda intel ipw2200? dopo uno degli ultimi aggiornamenti del kernel a me sembra come impazzitsa
[22:07] <trappist> !it
[22:07] <aleboco> sorry, i thought i was in the italian channel
[22:09] <genii> aleboco: Then comment out backports lines in sources.list, re-add the usual universe ones or so. Then do an update. Then find policies on a package with    apt-cache policy packagename      which shows you what ver is installed and what vers are available and in what repos they reside. To revert to a specific version use    sudo apt-get install packagename=specificversionhere    where specificversionhere     is the one from result of apt-cache policy result
[22:09] <genii> which resides in repository of universe or so and not from backports
[22:11] <Finswimmer> is there something in kubuntu that overrides the language option made in firefox 3.0.1 because in "about firefox" there is "pt" printed, but it is still in german. *very-confusing*
[22:13] <sparr_w> Are there any services like GoToMyPC or LogMeIn that work from a windows client to a linux target? I need remote desktop access of the client-server-client variety. I cannot initiate a connection to either end, so [anything over] [reverse] ssh is not an option. I cannot create network adapters on the windows end, so LogMeIn Hamachi won't work.
[22:15] <thiblahute> Hi,
[22:15] <thiblahute> I would like to get some help to get an kde4 development environment with ubuntu intrepid
[22:16] <thiblahute> I would like to use Kdevelop, (305)
[22:16] <jussi01> thiblahute: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[22:23] <K`zan> Not sure this is the right place for this, but what in hell is: "hiJavaScript"?
[22:30] <genii> !freenx | sparr_w
[22:32] <sparr_w> genii: that does not help at all.
[22:32] <sparr_w> i dont need vnc/freenx/remotex/anythinglikethat
[22:32] <sparr_w> i can do all that myself
[22:32] <sparr_w> my problem is the network connection itself
[22:42] <Dragonath> how do I add an user to a group?
[22:43] <Dekans> Dragonath: in the users utility you must have this possibility
[22:44] <Dekans> sudo adduser $LOGNAME vboxusers  ==> to add the current user to the vboxusers group
[22:44] <Dragonath> Dekans: heh, using a graphical interface didn't occur to me :)
[22:45] <Dekans> so you just have to adapt this command
[22:45] <Dragonath> ok thanks
[22:46] <chemist109> The gui way to add a user is with "kuser".  It's a good little application, but it isn't installed by default.  Just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kuser
[22:47] <chemist109> ^^^^^^^ I meant add a user to a group
[22:47] <Dragonath> ok, thanks for that too, though don't really see a need for a GUI when the command is so simple :)
[22:47] <Dragonath> I have to logout for a second now brb
[22:53] <ubuntu_> i have an issue
[22:54] <ubuntu_> im trying to reinstall kubuntu cause the screen is too streched and it looks like its messed
[22:54] <ubuntu_> im trying to reinstall fromt he cd and it boots up the same way
[22:54] <ubuntu_> should i even bother reinstalling?
[22:57] <ubuntu_> ???
[22:57] <ubuntu_> no hlp
[22:57] <ubuntu_> help*?
[22:58] <Denise> nobody helps here
[22:58] <Denise> they just mix up people
[22:58] <ubuntu_> thats usfull
[22:59] <BluesKaj> so why are you here Denise ?
[22:59] <Denise> I m lost
[22:59] <ubuntu_> ye same here
[22:59] <ubuntu_> cause i dont know how to use this
[22:59] <ubuntu_> and what to do
[22:59] <ubuntu_> :S
[23:00] <BluesKaj> ubuntu , maybe you should check your video drivers/card in system settings/monitor & display
[23:00] <ubuntu_> i did already
[23:00] <ubuntu_> and now when i boot from the cd its the same thing
[23:00] <ubuntu_> the image is messed streched i cant even see start menu
[23:01] <BluesKaj> did you try to change the resolution  /
[23:01] <BluesKaj> >
[23:01] <ubuntu_> yep
[23:01] <ubuntu_> every thing
[23:01] <BluesKaj> from what to what ?
[23:01] <arthur_> hello
[23:02] <ubuntu_> i checked monitor i checked settings
[23:03] <ubuntu_> i even tried installing driver
[23:03] <ubuntu_> then i installed this program called envmy
[23:03] <ubuntu_> or what ever for ati
[23:03] <ubuntu_> and now its messed more it works slow it lags
[23:03] <ubuntu_> aside from half of the screen not thtere
[23:07] <ubuntu_> great hes gone to
[23:08] <|dthacker|> Hi.  My 7.10 desktop is having problems.  When I boot, I get the initial splash screen, then I get a set of vertical bars and a frozen cursor instead of the login screen.   I can boot the system off on the 7.10 kubuntu live CD.   What can I do to diagnose and fix?
[23:13] <EagleScreen> i am configuring a ftp server, now anonymous users can neter to it, but cannot see any file
[23:13] <EagleScreen> i am using vsftpd
[23:14] <alper> hi guys I am having wifi problem with 8.04.1 it's a fresh install I have the wifi led on but I can't see any networks in the netwowrk manager
[23:14] <phitoo> Hello! I'm trying to run kubuntu intrepid alpha 5, but I can't login because kdm has "no greeter widget plugin loaded". Is there a work around?
[23:14] <LeeJunFan> alper: do you know what your wireless interface name is? ie. wlan0, eth0, ath0?
[23:15] <alper> wlan0
[23:16] <alper> LeeJunFan: wlan0 is the iwconfig output
[23:17] <LeeJunFan> alper: do you see any networks when you run 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan' ?
[23:17] <LeeJunFan> from konsole
[23:18] <alper> LeeJunFan: no I get "no scan results"
[23:19] <LeeJunFan> alper: do you know what chipset your card is? 'lspci | grep Ethernet'
[23:20] <alper> LeeJunFan: I just right-clicked Knetworkmanager icon I can see my network and one other but still no scan results with iwlist
[23:21] <LeeJunFan> does iwconfig only show one interface when you run it? atheros cards will show wlan0 and ath0.
[23:21] <rightBlinker> Hi, anyone uses the Roger's isp?  In their webmail system you can paste pictures and resize them.  Like in a word processor.   That's awesome.  Is it Firefox s doing?  or GWT or something?   Can you scale images with non flash ajax methods?
[23:21] <alper> LeeJunFan: lspci output is 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[23:21] <LeeJunFan> alper: only that one line? hrm.
[23:22] <alper> LeeJunFan: yea that's it
[23:22] <LeeJunFan> that's just lan.
[23:22] <LeeJunFan> not wlan.
[23:22] <LeeJunFan> alper: how is your wireless connected to your machine?
[23:23] <alper> it's a notebook I have broadcom bcm4318
[23:23] <LeeJunFan> alper: okay, here you go....
[23:23] <LeeJunFan> !broadcom > alper
[23:23] <LeeJunFan> oops, meant to use | not >.
[23:24] <|dthacker|> !repair xwindows
[23:24] <LeeJunFan> |dthacker|: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg
[23:25] <|dthacker|> LeeJunFan: how do I get past the point where the boot freezes?
[23:25] <zeelot> hey guys, have ubuntu 64bit installed few days ago but my svn gui clients (yes all of them) fail to show me a login prompt to commit, any reason why or how to reset it to ask again?
[23:27] <|dthacker|> never mind. it seems to have healed itself
[23:27] <|dthacker|> wierd
[23:27] <|dthacker|> weird even
[23:27] <|dthacker|> later
[23:32] <alper_> LeeJunFan: now I am connected o my network but I still get "No scan results" from iwlist scan. but I have the populated iwconfig output now
[23:35] <alper_> LeeJunFan: thank you, everything is fine now I am connected :))))
[23:36] <LeeJunFan> alper_: well, that's good but I'm not sure abotu iwlist not working right :)
[23:36] <mn> "unexpected en of file in version number in..."
[23:36] <joegeek> well,..  im glad im not the only one who's have`n problems with wifi,...
[23:37] <dr_willis> wifi IS a problem
[23:37] <dr_willis> :)
[23:37] <joegeek> lol
[23:37] <dr_willis> gotta love nonstantard standards.. and   binary blob/firmware/drivers
[23:37] <alper_> LeeJunFan: about that I think the problem was me I typed it with sudo and I got it. I am learning :))
[23:37] <dr_willis> and a dozen howtos to get the same card working - a dozen different ways
[23:37] <dr_willis> :)
[23:38] <LeeJunFan> lol, especially with the broadcom
[23:38] <LeeJunFan> at least atheros is pretty straightforward - use madwifi.
[23:38] <joegeek> I can connect to an unsecured network, but when I try to connect to my wap (secured) no luck,..
[23:38] <LeeJunFan> joegeek: wpa or wep? kind of lost me there. :)
[23:39] <joegeek> we[
[23:39] <joegeek> wep
[23:39] <LeeJunFan> hrm, that's odd - wep is usually easy enough. I've had some issues with different versions and types of wpa.
[23:40] <LeeJunFan> joegeek: one of the biggest problems I have with WEP is I often forget to choose in knetworkmanager if I'm entering a passphrase, or a key. I use the key, and it defaults to asking for a passphrase so I have to choose a key.
[23:40] <zeelot> please someone help me...no svn clients on ubuntu 64bit 8.04 ever ask for login info I just get a 403 permission denied right away I need this to be fixed or I cant work!! anyone have any idea???
[23:40] <LeeJunFan> of course right now I'm in intrepid and knetworkmanager is broken completely for wireless :)
[23:42] <LeeJunFan> zeelot: it's probably some setting in your ~/.subversion directory.
[23:42] <joegeek> i've been use`n all kinds of settings,..  Started with the ones i knew were right,...
[23:42] <sanguisdex> here is a faq, I have been a using ubuntu for a while now but would like to try K 4 as it looks like a step up.  is there a way I can try it w/o reformating and if I decide that I prefer gnome better is there a simple way to go back?
[23:43] <LeeJunFan> !kde4
[23:43] <joegeek> LeeJunFan: use`n KNetworkManager of course,...
[23:43] <LeeJunFan> sanguisdex: I wouldn't call it a step up yet - there are a lot of components unfinished yet.
[23:44] <sanguisdex> ﻿LeeJunFan: so I might want to wait till 4.2 to oavoid frustrations
[23:44] <sanguisdex> ?
[23:44] <joshuajtl> is it true that in about a month kubuntu is dropping kde3 ?
[23:45] <LeeJunFan> 4.1.2 and no
[23:46] <zeelot> LeeJunFan:  thanks, uninstalled subversion, deleted the .subversion folder and reinstalled, works
[23:47] <LeeJunFan> zeelot: good, your welcome.
[23:47] <LeeJunFan> sanguisdex: You can install 4.1.1 from that link above but I found that after installing the hardy 4.4.1 and upgrading to intrepid I had to manually remove all the hardy ones because they were actually treated as different programs.
[23:48] <dr_willis> You proberly dident need to 'uninstall subversion' :)
[23:49] <Denise> and desinformation?
[23:50] <rightBlinker> can someone recommend a video screen capture utility for Kubuntu?
[23:51] <LeeJunFan> ksnapshot
[23:51] <LeeJunFan> oh, sry video.
[23:51] <rightBlinker> = )
[23:51] <LeeJunFan> krecordmydesktop
[23:51] <rightBlinker> LeeJunFan: Thanks
[23:53] <Denise> u can keep on dreaming on firmware dear
[23:53] <Denise> u will wait a long time
[23:53] <clusby> anyone know if I can disable / remap the 'ctrl-alt-Fx' keys?
[23:54] <clusby> i.e. i have a virtual machine, and running excel is kinda hard because I would like 'ctrl-alt-F9'
[23:55] <Denise> I dont care
[23:56] <Search4Lancer> I think I broke something.... somehow. I had started Kaffeine and Ktorrent at the same time, system all but froze up (and wouldn't let me kill ktorrent), I finally just shut it off (or it did so itself, don't remember), and now won't boot back up - I can type my password in to the login screen and hit enter, or change the kind of session I want and do nothing else, and it goes to the default...
[23:56] <Search4Lancer> ...background for 30 seconds or so, then shuts off
[23:57] <Search4Lancer> ah, I remember, while it was frozen, it was constantly reading/writing on my external HD... I shut off the HD, and the whole system shut off