[00:01] I have an issue, where i had install the ATI (closed Drive) then removed it now my fglrxinfo state it by Mesa project not ATI [00:06] hi. before buying this wi-fi ethernet card: hamlet HNWU254G i need to know if it's well compatible with (k)ubuntu. how can i check that? [00:16] In firefox, I just printed to pdf---so uh, where exactly did it put the pdf file? [00:24] xorg.log ->http://pastebin.ca/1207820 [00:24] frim a fail boot [00:24] any ideas? [00:34] is konversation, kopete packaged in kde4 yet? [00:34] !kde4 [00:34] christ, when is amarok 2 coming? [00:35] shit looks cash ^_^ [00:35] prolly with kde 4.2 [00:36] they said it would come in the middle of the two releases [00:36] as in kde 4.1 and 4.2 === elvin is now known as itchy === itchy is now known as leftBlinker [00:52] is the paste bin source available? [00:54] What is Kubuntu 8.04 Remix [00:55] so i setup vncserver on here but when i connect into it I don't see what's on my desktop, rather I see a console window [00:59] leftBlinker: http://paste.ubuntu.com === david is now known as Guest82773 [01:00] dope: I dont have it installed anymore but maybe take a look at this file $HOME/.vnc/xstartup and have startkde in there somewhere? [01:01] ok thanks leftBlinker [01:03] leftBlinker: that kind of worked. i get just like a weird checkboardish desktop now [01:04] i found something in that startup file that said uncomment the following two lines for a normal desktop and so i did [01:06] cool, i dont really remember, but the server will run the file like a shell script, somehow start kde with command line? [01:09] argh, i'm in a live session right now, and i can't get my sound card to work [01:09] i mmean it registers on kmix but ffff === ZeroSilverwing is now known as vezir [01:19] hi guys, i did my normal packages upgrade few days ago..... and now, my kwin don't start at startup i must run it with ALT-F2, any hint ? [01:20] whats the best backup program/command? I am about to make some driver changes and want a backup incase it doesnt work (wifi drivers, they are finicky and take a while to get working once screwed up) [01:21] DarkriftX: why not make a simple image of your disk ? [01:21] holaaaaaaaaaa [01:21] at least, of the /. [01:21] large disk, not a lot of storage [01:21] alguien me entiende? [01:21] / is normally small [01:21] how can i use my mobil in kubuntu??????????????? [01:21] and your /home is normally on another disk.. [01:22] its not [01:22] all on same disk [01:22] if not.... bad install :P [01:22] hello [01:22] hey [01:22] default install [01:22] ok [01:22] heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [01:22] i can't get any sound on kde 3.5.9 :/ [01:23] there isnt any sort of "system" backup that grabs all the important stuff? [01:23] my home folder will probably be safe [01:23] i wanna change from gnome to kde [01:23] !info kubuntu-* [01:23] PantherDream: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [01:23] yeah, thats it [01:24] DarkriftX: yeah... make an image of your / :) [01:24] ok [01:24] there isn't a LIST of important stuff.... that's no sense. [01:24] if your system work well now..... then all the / is important. [01:24] ninix, i've done that, i can log into KDE, but i'm having troubles making it usable [01:24] im still a bit new to file structure so wasnt sure [01:24] PantherDream: what do you mean by "usable" [01:25] DarkriftX: np [01:25] in windows if you are doing a driver update, theres no need to backup program files folder, so i wasnt sure if there was something close here [01:25] so ill do / minus home [01:26] DarkriftX: the best way is, when you install create a partition for / and another one for /home, (and if you want, one for /usr). after that, make a backup of / is very easy and not so big [01:26] first of all, i dont like the default file explorer, nautilus was way nicer, also, compiz is gone and my themes don't show up anymore [01:26] konqueror is a way nicer, in my opinion, but... this can be easily changed in the kde control. [01:27] for compiz, search a tutorial "kde + compiz" you'll find what to settup. [01:27] so it is possible to use compiz in KDE just like in Gnome? [01:28] off course, yes. i've already used it. [01:28] how about my themes? [01:28] themes ? [01:28] PantherDream, use konqueror, its better then dolphin [01:29] if you set a theme in gnome..... that's completly different from a kde theme [01:29] but can't i use the same ones? [01:31] no. search a new theme at kde-looks.org [01:31] ok... [01:31] You need to know..... gnome and kde are TWO separate desktop environnement [01:32] anyone know about my kwin probleme ? [01:32] i know, and most of my favorite linux apps (Amarok, Kopete, etc) are built for KDE that's why i wanna change [01:32] yeah, kde is a very great desktop...... made with a wonderful framework: QT. [01:33] well, i've never really tried it before, but the applications made for it are great, so it can't be bad [01:37] except for the obvious ones, how can i tell if a app that i've installed is meant for KDE or Gnome? [01:37] is keep a decent automated backup system? [01:37] if i tell it to backup / (exclude /home/) every 3 days, would that be reliable and not too system intensive [01:38] DarkriftX: i suggest you to look this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/search?PHPSESSID=158a8b4dc6e8b3597ca3b6bf4353a305&cx=017338271194360913207%3Avuzb4jxd_2m&cof=FORID%3A11&q=backup&sa=Search#1414 [01:38] looking [01:39] PantherDream: in fact, a program is simply linked to the GUI library. If you do a simple `ldd /usr/bin/amarok` you will see the link to libQt*.so. that's means that the library use QT. [01:40] otherwise... an application can link to libgtk.. or something like that. [01:41] and there is no problem to use application made for KDE in gnome, and vice-versa. I use some gtk application here. [01:41] Hello, i have a small problem with adept package manager, can anyone help? [01:41] tim_: don't ask to ask. ASK :) [01:42] and if someone can help you, he will. [01:43] hello my name is akiro [01:45] HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [01:45] ... [01:45] fuck out c dla marde sti [01:45] tu fais quoi là idiot ? [01:45] kedale sti [01:45] toé [01:46] =) thank you, half of the rpms, wont download, "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. " [01:46] je regarde un tata essayé d'écrire sur IRC. [01:46] Merci beaucoup [01:46] mais cpmment on ecrit sur un irc [01:47] ninix, but aren't KDE applications supposed to run much slower in Gnome, and vice-versa? [01:47] that's the whole point of me switching to KDE [01:47] ok [01:47] akiro: first, it's a english channel here. So...there is a channel kubuntu-fr i think. [01:47] anyone use the Crystal Project icon theme set? [01:48] LOL::Note:- By default Restored Files and Directories are owned by root this is because of sbackup will runs with root.You need to chnage these files or folder permissions using chmod or just right click and select properties of the file or folder. [01:48] ok but if is a english chanel and think you had some rules too [01:48] how friggen useful os that [01:48] is* [01:48] chow [01:49] I was wondering if anyone knows how to change the Linspire konqueror spinning logo? [01:49] akiro: there is no "rules". except that we need to respect everyone here [01:51] ok [01:51] thanks fr the tube [01:51] for* [01:57] plus u change my auto connection all the time [02:08] =) thank you, half of the rpms, wont download, "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. " any help? [02:09] what changes you made [02:10] kubuntu doesn't use rpms [02:10] or the packages [02:10] sorry [02:11] havent done much, im using 8.04 and the packages wouldnt work from the beggining [02:12] put the package in fire [02:12] excuse me? [02:13] test it in firefox [02:13] jesus u r a newbie? [02:13] how would i do that? [02:13] apparently [02:14] anyone using mysql for amarok? I don't have enough room to run it on my root partition, but have not been able to move it to another [02:14] back to kubrick [02:14] in hollywood [02:14] ok night guys [02:16] Is there a way to set time automatically? Theres an option in system settings, but changing it causes it to freeze. [02:17] what repo i should add to install kde 4.1.1 in Ubuntu>? [02:19] @demontager: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main [02:21] i have an mpeg4 file and i need to split it in half, anyone know a peice of software that can do this for me? [02:23] avidemux proberly can surgy [02:23] !find avid [02:24] if i can spell its name right === root is now known as Guest57637 [02:29] avidemux can do that- if you enable the universe and/or multiverse, it should be present there [02:30] it may also be called avidemux2 [02:35] Hello. I've got a headless server set up running Hardy Server Edition that I want to configure with remote resumable KDE sessions... I'm currently using X forwarding to accomplish the remote part of this but I don't know how to make sessions resumable. Help appreciated :). [02:37] Not sure thats even possible. depending on what you mean by resumeable [02:38] Kevin_: freenx [02:38] You could use vnc/vncserver and have ' desktops' that are persistant. and dont 'close' when the user closes the vncclient tool [02:38] freenx may also do that. Ive never managetd to get freenx working [02:38] freenx/nxclient will do it [02:38] i usually just download the .deb's and install manually for the real version, not freenx [02:38] fiyawerx, freenx/nxclient will allow me to use KDE with X tunneled over ssh? [02:38] nomachine has a "free" server that allows I think up to 2 simultaneous connections [02:38] Did they finally get freenx clients for windows? [02:38] been ages since i last looked at freenx [02:39] dr_willis: you could always use nx's real client to connect to freenx server, as long as i've been using it they've had windows clients yeah [02:39] and Kevin_: it does use ssh [02:39] I tend to use 'xming' on the windows machines to get apps forwareded.. or vnc. [02:39] and runs quite a bit faster than any other remote desktop type software i've used [02:39] fiyawerx, ok because I've tried VNC and it is just abysmally slow.... thanks :D [02:40] with vnc. i find it pays to use a very minimal desktop. and cut down the # of fancy stuff [02:40] ive only used it on a local lan. so i dident have to worry about ssh tunnles with vnc either. [02:40] I do hear freenx is much faster. [02:41] it is [02:41] of course with xming, im just displaying a single program/window from the linux box.. not the whole desktop. Its very useable on my local lan. [02:41] but not a good idea for over the internet. withoug some ssh tossed in [02:41] * faileas notes it also works decently over the net, with home lines [02:43] fiyawerx, sorry I forgot to clarify, by resumable I mean that I can close the connection on my computer without causing all of my running programs to die [02:43] I belive the proper term is 'persistant' :) at least ive heard it called that. [02:44] dr_willis, yes I think you are correct [02:45] anyone here know why my laptop's internal speakers would be enabled while I have speakers connected via the audio out? [02:45] and these speakers are outputting sound... [02:45] I know vnc can do that.. depending on how you start the vncserver. fiyawerx sort of suggested that freenx can do it also.. so try them both. :) === miguel is now known as Guest38916 [02:48] Hi! I'm just testing this. Sorry for the spam. [02:48] fiyawerx, do you know if I will need to remove X from my system before installing freenx? [02:49] how can I install Bricolage-cms on kubuntu 8.04 , apt-get fails and it's not listed under the abept manager [02:52] so no one then? === stuffcorpse_ is now known as stuffcorpse [02:55] Hi [02:56] I just have a question. [02:56] I heard that KDE in Kubuntu is pretty "modified" or something like that. [02:56] Is there anyway to just install "pure" KDE on (K)ubuntu? [02:56] You have to escuse my english, it's not that good. [03:03] x_link: what's your native language? [03:04] x_link: are you there? [03:04] hi [03:05] he left [03:05] oh ok [03:05] nnn [03:07] ? [03:23] hello? [03:23] So I'm doing this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495 [03:23] Down in the WPA section [03:23] And when I issue the wpa_supplicant command it times out [03:24] After trying to associate with my router's MAC address [03:24] Which is sees [03:24] But then reports "Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out. [03:24] " [03:25] Any ideas of what I should do? [03:25] !enter [03:25] Quick question - how do you manually set up a wired network connection in xubuntu? [03:25] kubuntu [03:26] I think I'm doing something similar, DasYogi [03:26] Look in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495 and see if it works [03:26] I think that's wireless [03:27] but wired might be something similar. [03:27] let me clarify, I've set up my wireless to be served through wpa encryption. i guess what i really would like to know if i need to tweak wpa_supplicant for wired connections [03:28] ah, I don't think I can help. [03:29] forgetting wpa for a moment do I have to declare my wired interface in /etc/network/interfaces? [03:29] my card is assigned an ethx extension [03:29] and dchp [03:39] where's the bot ? [03:41] when doing a system backup is it best to just do a tar so that restoring is easier? ive read a lot about backup programs but most seem to be needed to restore their own backups [03:46] hey guys, installed 64bit ubuntu today (8.04) and now I can't seem to checkout a repository with kdesvn or rapidsvn anymore, I get PROPFIND of '/': 403 Forbidden, anyone know why? I dont even get a login prompt [03:57] anyone knows how to enable openGL on 64 bit distro? [04:01] forget it, i just figured out what was wrong with openGL on my 64 bit distro [04:02] can anyone help me get my screen resolution set? [04:04] atrus42: hmm i come from ubuntu, but maybe you can explain more? [04:04] well I have an ATI card [04:04] ubuntu indstead of kubuntu [04:05] and I don't know if I just don't have all of the drivers installed correctly [04:05] i have an ati card too [04:05] or xorg just isn't configured correctly [04:05] but I can't seem to get a display other than 800X600 [04:06] hmm i have an ati1950pro i think... i just have to double reboot after a fresh install [04:06] I have an older AMD 64 bit system [04:06] so I have an AGP version of the 9250 [04:06] I had it working fine [04:07] hmm what did you do that could have messed with the xorg.conf? [04:07] but I had thought I had fixed my 6600GT so I uninstalled the ATI stuff and installed the nvidia stuff [04:07] but the nvidia card was still bad so I tried to uninstall the nvidia stuff and reinstall the ATI stuff [04:07] but it doesn't seem to want to go [04:08] when I run the fglrxinfo command it comes up with vesa (is that the right one?) instead of ATI [04:09] thats a bit over my head buy in my experience thats an improper xorg.conf [04:09] but i dont want to break your system any further.... so i give up [04:09] which is what I'd guess to, but none of the "walk-throughs" I can find online seem to fully get this fixed === ronnie_ is now known as Ron [04:10] you could try to use one of the old xorg. backup files... by date maybe? === Ron is now known as Treppid [04:11] usually every install of drivers and such creates such a backup file [04:12] which would explain why I have about 12 of them then [04:12] (it's more like 4) [04:12] yea same her [04:12] here [04:12] hi guys, just trying out intrepid, pretty kewl so far, still tons of glitches hehe alpha6 no wonder! [04:13] When I'm at the login screen, then press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login with my username at the CLI. Does this login procedure require the home folder of this user to be present? [04:13] atrus42: you could back up the current xorg. and play back one of a time you think it was still good [04:15] if any are trying it (alpha6) warning!, do not!, enable desktop effects!, I lost x-screen picture, completely black! had to reload entire system again! [04:15] what is intrepid? [04:15] nvm [04:15] intrepid is the next ubuntu version [04:15] right [04:15] brain fart [04:15] lol [04:15] duh [04:15] I'm smart [04:15] ya, due out end of oct. [04:16] oct? i thought sept? [04:16] maaan! [04:16] Treppid: just because it happened to you doesn't mean it will happen to everyone [04:16] sumo_su: 8.10 means 2008, october [04:17] Daisuke_Ido: oh.. thanks:) [04:17] How do you upgrade to the next version, is it automatic or do you have to do something? [04:17] tho glad to see, I found 3 or 4 players that worked on dvd's!, now I'll have to save my pennies for a burner hehe, [04:18] let me guess: erase your harddrive and ... oh i forgot to burn the image to cd! [04:19] intrepid will not be a milestone if i see it right... ? [04:20] the current 8.04 is "stable" isnt it? [04:21] any here know the correct setting for the jumper switches to hook up a second hardrive?, example= one master, one slave?,both master? [04:21] Treppid: yea [04:22] Treppid: you either select one master and one slave by jumper or you put both on cable select [04:22] cable select ok thats probably the way ill go thx lots [04:22] Treppid: all is doen by jumper. some cables dont support cable select [04:22] oh [04:23] Treppid: you just have to try. you cant break anything [04:23] Treppid: modern cables (past 2000) will support cable select and thats the way to go [04:23] this is a very old puter so one will have tobe slave, [04:24] Treppid: if its a very old comp just jumper one driver to master and the other to slave and youre fine [04:24] grr not driver.. jumper [04:24] Treppid: if its a very old comp just jumper one drive to master and the other to slave and youre fine [04:25] sorry [04:26] as far as can't break anything, I found a way lol!, never touched jumpers & tried adding the other HD, some how my dvd burner fried?, must have been "murphy's-law:" that got me haha! [04:27] what sort of hardware are you plugging in? [04:28] you shouldnt be able to fry hardware by setting the jumpers wrong [04:29] unless you had the computer on while plugging the hardware in [04:29] one is a 80 gig 7200 rpm drive, other an older IBM 40 gig 7200 rpm drive, maybe their not really both 7200? or different voltage?, oh well [04:30] yea that fries old computers and that is why sata and usb are so "modern":) [04:30] I still am nervous about plugging my sata drives in while the computer is on [04:31] kinda feels like playing russian roulette [04:31] i never went thru that adventure:) [04:31] but i am re-overclocking mine atm:) [04:31] I only did it because my HD had an issue [04:31] and I couldn't get the computer to boot with it in [04:31] so I figured I'd boot up and then plug it in and see if I could pull the stuff off [04:31] ok guess ill just make due with the 80 gig, & add the dvd rom, till I can buy just one burner = ) [04:32] well if you can switch the comp off you switch it off:) [04:32] youre not running a 24/7 server (which is what the sata standard was designed for too) [04:32] well I don't often uninstall my hard drives [04:33] same here:) [04:33] hardest trick i ever pulled was to take a bios chip out of a running computer, flash it, and put it in mine:) [04:34] worked:)))) [04:34] wow...nice [04:34] 1 broken computer? noooo! i set everything on red! [04:34] i won 2 fixed computers:) [04:35] excellent [04:35] could have been 2 broken ones;)) [04:35] indeed [04:36] you dont have to do that today.. unPLUG the computer and the bios is more careful [04:37] i really have to shut up but i'm overclocking instead of playing poker tonight [04:38] I wish I knew how to over clock mine, course the processer speed says locked, not that into dos teckie typing hehe, if thats what it takes? [04:38] overclocking is handicraft:) [04:38] depends on your mobo..I think usually it is done in the bios isn't it? [04:38] dont overclock notebooks [04:38] lol [04:39] Argentina????????? [04:39] Alguien?? [04:39] atrus42: right. i bought my comp in parts and assembled them... design was to OC [04:39] well considering these 2 puters I have are "grampas" to modern ones, I will risk frying em hehe [04:40] !es|damian === ty is now known as tyflyy [04:40] I built mine too, but I don't overclock [04:40] I think the one I am on now has a windows utility that would let me do it...but...meh [04:41] maybe I'd be more into it if I actually had done it once or twice and saw a huge speed jump [04:41] i am willing to overvolt now:) [04:41] make the thing die:) [04:41] the main computer I use now, I found & fixed from a dumpster someone threw away haha [04:41] Hey guys ! Im currently using Kubuntu and im thinking of updating to the next Ubuntu Version.... Is it faster better or anything or should i just stick to the version that im using now ? [04:42] I am so jealous newegg had a huge jump in proc for sale for 25 bucks, I missed it because I had just moved and didn't have net access yet [04:42] Treppid: there's traffic here now... we should just shut up with our off topic talk [04:42] ya buntu chat again [04:42] maybe I should repeat my query [04:42] ah dont mind me guys just a quick question and then im off [04:43] I guess that would depend which version of kubuntu you are running [04:43] 7.10 [04:43] its just a different desktop, zero difference, tho I prefer the look of KDE, = ) [04:44] ah ok ! its only cause im having a bit of trouble with this version i thought that the new ubuntu would have less bugs in it [04:45] what are you talking about treppid? there are difference between 7.10 and 8.04 [04:45] yes was talkin bout 8.04 kubuntu & 8.04 ubuntu [04:46] jimmmy!, hope ya see that b4 ya left! [04:47] ahh still here [04:47] i didnt know there was a kubuntu 8.04 [04:47] there isn't really a difference in speed but there are additional features in 8.04 VS 7.10 [04:47] ill dload that 1 i guess [04:47] I have a PC that is connected to a LAN, and also has a wireless card that is currently not being used in a productive way. How can I make the computer act as a WAP so I can connect my laptop? [04:47] (a link to an online guide would be great) [04:48] k, so ya mega diff, I thought the new graphics card made my system better haha!, it was switching from 7.10 to 8.04 kubuntu, wow amazed me hehe [04:49] is anyone on? [04:49] actually is there a way i can just update 7.10 to 8.04 without dloading a new cd ? [04:50] yes...you can do it in the OS [04:50] hang on [04:50] ah sweet [04:50] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-to-ubuntu-804-lts-hardy-heron.html [04:50] Great ill go and have a play with that now [04:50] cheers mate [04:51] wait... thats ubuntu, does it matter ? [04:52] not really..some of the specifics may be different, but that is the guide I used [04:52] ok sweet [04:53] true, some like gnome desktop some like kde, sometimes ya feel like a nut, sometimes ya don't lol [04:55] Is update manager same as adept manager ? [04:57] not the same, two seperate programs, but the perform essentially the same function [04:57] at least as far as I understand it [04:57] might be easier if i just dload the new version [04:58] you'll be fine [04:58] unless i click full upgrate [04:58] srry I'm not sure bout that one, I found 5 ways on Intrepid so far to install software, 2 ior 3 ways of updateing, hope they narrow it down a bit hehe [05:00] sumo-super tech!, you still here? have one tech question, [05:01] Treppid: they are all based on dpkg everything is just a front end ;p [05:02] where do you get in to the other rooms? [05:02] or is this just for linux? [05:04] is it possible to change or add an adapter, to fit a graphics card into a improper slot on mobo? last hardware question promise ; ) [05:05] ty faileas too ; ) === ronnie_ is now known as treppid [05:16] with kde4 how do ya log in as root?, says I have to to run, `nvidia-xconfig` to enable the graphics accelerator software, = ) [05:18] do it from the login screen? or just run it su password and you are logged in root in the terminal [05:20] i tried to put root as my name or pass, on login screen, duh! don't know what I'm doing hehe, yes maybe terminal thank-you [05:21] ahoy folksies [05:21] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HebrewInput [05:21] how do I do this in kubuntu? [05:23] and is there some other way to do it in kde without using a gnome app? [05:33] http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/09/on-kde4-performance.html [05:33] wrong window sorry === charlie is now known as Guest5336 [05:49] does anyone know of any simple text editors that can categorize files by tags? [06:02] Hi every one. This is the first time I use Konversation [06:03] hi [06:03] i know this isn't #physics but just curious, when one takes a piss, does air escape the penis too? i noticed when i piss in empty plastic milk jugs, they expand. [06:08] smax: not exactly a kubuntu support question... [06:08] hello [06:09] why isnt my windows installation on sda2 not showing up in my grub boot list"? and how can i fix this? [06:09] !grub [06:10] !grub [06:10] ubotu is broken? [06:12] !bot [06:12] seems so [06:12] its listed as sda5 [06:13] ... [06:13] can you walk me through the commands? [06:13] i just need to edit grub.conf right? or similer? [06:18] surgy: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst - will let you edit the file [06:19] what should be there to make windows boot? [06:21] surgy: I'll paste what I use and you can change that to suit your system - one min [06:21] favro: thanks man [06:23] surgy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49182/ - you'll need to change the (hd0,0) part [06:24] favro: yeah i have a question about that, my grub.lst says buntu is installed on hd0,6..... that doesnt make since to me since kubuntu says that its partition is called sda7 and my windows part is called sda5 [06:25] so how do i know what numbers to put there? [06:25] surgy: kubuntu counts from one - grub counts from zero - so take one off what kubuntu calls it - so (sd0,5) should work [06:27] but grub is calling it hd0,6 so i need to call it hdo5 ? [06:27] hd0,5 [06:28] ill just try it and see [06:31] apparently hd0,5 is an invalid device [06:32] kubuntu is on hd0,6 so maybe i should try hd0,7 ? [06:35] sorry about that [06:35]