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TheMusoYeah.00:02
twbRemind me, what's the magic thingy/hostname=bar:3142 thingy/directory=/ubuntu to use a local host instead of security.ubuntu.com for the security repo?04:53
twb(Expert more still doesn't ask about that, and our network here is annoying.)04:53
twbHmm, looks like security_host.04:58
twb...except that doesn't work on Hardy.05:02
twbOh fuck me, tcp window scaling is still broken.05:09
twbI hate out network :-/05:09
CIA-50debian-installer: cjwatson * r964 ubuntu/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Move mainline architectures to 2.6.27-4 kernels.08:27
xivulondavmor2: did you play with ntfs syncio?11:25
davmor2No but I can today now that all the testing is out of the way :011:33
davmor2:) even11:33
davmor2Right just run through exactly what you need you need me to do then xivulon11:35
xivulondavmor2 you have to mount an ntfs partition with -o syncio (assuming that ntfs in intrepid has the cking patch built-in)11:43
davmor2hmm11:43
davmor22 ticks then I'll just reinstall xp11:44
xivulonI actually built the driver myself. Then try to copy an ISO to the new mountpoint. In my case the operation was terribly slow11:44
xivulonThere is no need to have XP, only an ntfs partition.11:44
davmor2it only takes a couple of minutes to transfer it back over :)11:46
davmor2xivulon: so is this from live or from within wubi?11:47
xivulonfrom a standard intrepid installation, you should compare the performance of ntfs when mounted with and without syncio11:48
davmor2np's11:49
xivulonmake sure that syncio is actually "on"11:49
xivulonIIRC it will print a message confirming that syncio is active once you mount the partition11:50
davmor2is the full command for mount on the bug report?11:51
davmor2is it just a case of mount -t ntfs-3g -o syncio /dev/sda1 /media/disk ?11:53
xivulonmount -t ntfs -o syncio /dev/XXX /mnt11:53
xivulonI am looking at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g not sure if ntfs-3g is in release or update as both ubuntu2 and ubuntu3 version contain the same changelog11:54
cjwatsonthe table at the top of that page tells you what suites contain what versions of ntfs-3g11:54
xivulons/not sure if ntfs-3g is in release or update/not sure if ntfs-3g is in release or proposed/11:55
cjwatsonyou're misreading the version numbers; look at the bit before "ubuntu" as well :)11:55
cjwatsonthat UI lists the packages in upload order, not necessarily in version number order11:55
xivulonah yep!11:55
xivulonso davmor2 the version in intrepid (1:1.2506-1ubuntu2) should be fine11:56
davmor2cjwatson: so does it only need to list type as ntfs or does it still need to be ntfs-3g or are the 2 the same now?11:56
cjwatsonthey've been the same for *ages*11:57
cjwatsonsince ntfs-3g was introduced properly in, what was it, gutsy?11:57
davmor2cool11:57
cjwatsonlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2008-07-11 16:54 /sbin/mount.ntfs -> /bin/ntfs-3g11:57
cjwatsonif you want the old one you use -t ntfs-fuse11:57
cjwatsonpeople should generally just use -t ntfs11:58
davmor2okay cool thanks I just thought I'd double check that, that wasn't the cause of the issue before I start :)11:59
xivulonhmm, cjwatson was looking at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/236975/comments/3 was curious why is step 1 required to begin with12:03
xivulonI remember that init parses cmdline and extracts rootflags, which then are used by mountroot12:04
cjwatsonit isn't, as far as I can see. init already exports ROOTFLAGS12:04
cjwatsonwhere does this local-premount/root_locale script come from?12:07
xivulonit is just a recipe of some users trying to change the mount attributes of /host12:09
xivulonhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/23697512:10
xivulonah probably the chap is referring to hardy (0.85) and export ROOTFLAGS was introudced in intrepid (0.92a)12:12
cjwatsonah, ok12:15
davmor2xivulon: definitely slower.  It's going at 2.6 MB/sec I transferred it from my server to my test machine faster than that :(12:42
davmor2I'll check it against standard in a second for you :)12:43
davmor221 mb/sec + for standard12:47
davmor2xivulon: ^12:48
xivulondavmor2 please post your findings in 20413312:49
xivulonsame as me 10X slower :(12:49
xivulonI have notified cking12:50
davmor2Np's let me know if it needs testing again I've subscribed to the bug to keep an eye on it's progress anyway12:53
xivulondavmor2 thanks12:54
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CIA-50debian-installer: cjwatson * r965 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20080522ubuntu1516:38
kirklandcjwatson, et al: is there somewhere in /etc, /proc, or /sys where the keyboard layout is stored?19:11
kirklandcjwatson: i'd like to implement a programmatic workaround for the kvm keymapping bug that's still requiring "kvm -k en-us" (or the like) by dynamically determining the value of that "en-us" bit from the host19:12
evandfwiw, ~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk has been upgraded.21:47
cjwatsonkirkland: /etc/default/console-setup22:38
cjwatsonevand: cool, thanks22:39
cjwatsonkirkland: note that -k en-us still isn't the whole story - when you set the keyboard layout in the guest, e.g. by running the installer, it still produces a broken layout then22:39
cjwatsonkirkland: you can try this by selecting the British layout and pressing what IIRC is your \ key (our # key)22:40
kirklandcjwatson: interesting, is there a bug on that issue?22:41
cjwatsonI don't know if there's a specific one, I assumed it was part of the general fuckedness22:41
cjwatsonhaven't tried it with the VNC frontend yet22:41
cjwatsonis the SDL frontend really so hard to fix?22:42
kirkland:-D22:42
kirklandi really have no idea how hard the SDL is to fix; soren has indicated that it's non-trivial22:42
kirklandcjwatson: is there a problem if you send it "-k en-uk" and you select the British layout in the installer?22:44
cjwatsonen-gb, but let me try22:44
cjwatsonISTR yes22:44
cjwatsonoh, umm, at the very least things will be confused early on since the live CD defaults to a US keymap22:45
kirklandcjwatson: hrm, i see22:47
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CarlFKodd partition table "Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundary."  but XP is currently booting/useing it OK.23:48
CarlFKalt-installer doesn't show any partitions, but does show the raw drive as a place to install to23:48
CarlFKi don't see a way to re-partition23:48
CarlFKhttp://dpaste.com/79878/ sfdisk --list23:49
cjwatsonyes, parted is rather pedantic about some of those kinds of things23:52
cjwatsonthe most useful piece of information is usually 'sudo od -tx1 -Ax -N512 /dev/sda' to dump out the primary partition table23:53
cjwatson(or whatever the drive name is)23:53
cjwatsonthen it can be dumped into a file and used to test parted23:53
cjwatsonit ought not to cause d-i to fail. We'd need /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman (as usual ...) to see why. I assume that libparted is raising an exception where sfdisk just prints a warning23:54
CarlFKhttp://dev.personnelware.com/carl/temp/Sep22/a/dhcp243/  logs23:54
CarlFKbut I may have poluted them trying to figure out where the partitions were... I can restart the install easy enough23:55
cjwatsonSep 22 17:17:25 kernel: [   79.381737] attempt to access beyond end of device23:55
cjwatsonSep 22 17:17:25 kernel: [   79.381772] sda: rw=0, want=58635120, limit=5863334423:55
cjwatsonSep 22 17:17:25 partman:23:55
cjwatsonlooks kinda suspicious ...23:55
cjwatsonSep 22 17:17:25 partman: /dev/sda5: read failed after 0 of 512 at 2933850112: Input/output error23:55
CarlFK~ # od -tx1 -Ax -N512 /dev/sda23:55
CarlFKod: invalid option -- 't'23:55
CarlFKim in installer's BusyBox23:56
cjwatsonproper od23:56
cjwatson(e.g. from live CD)23:56
cjwatsonthe one with -t is called od_bloaty.c in busybox so I'd rather not turn it on :)23:57
CarlFKheh23:57
CarlFKI thnk I have an 8.4 cd around here somewhere...23:57
cjwatsonSep 22 17:17:16 kernel: [   70.857180] sda: p5 exceeds device capacity23:58
cjwatsonearlier on way before parted gets a look-in23:58
cjwatsonnote that sfdisk says your drive has 3649 cylinders and sda2 apparently ends at cylinder 3877 ...23:59
cjwatsonso not even just an off-by-$small error23:59

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