=== tacone is now known as firul === firul is now known as tacone [00:59] * Hobbsee wishes ember would test build *before* he files sync requests. [00:59] (win12 [01:01] Hobbsee: oh that's always fun. [01:01] Hobbsee: like when people tell me a specific version of a backport builds and works fine and I get it and it fails on get-build-deps [01:01] jdong: unless he has an ia64, or hppa, that never built here. [01:01] jdong: ah yes. well, backports == crack, so it's hardly surprising. [01:05] actually, no, loic's filed this. [01:05] ember's done the ftbfs fix. [01:19] * directhex wishes Hobbsee would do exciting, magical things to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/monodoc/+bug/256853 [01:25] jdong: two days ago you fixed fp-units-gtk2 for me. [01:25] jdong: I tested the patch on my own system before I filed it, now with the patch applied I see all different failures to build [01:26] Elbrus: so the patch did not work? [01:26] jdong: do you now of other packages closely related to fpc that migt have change in the mean time? [01:26] jdong: well, the patch fixed my initial problem, but now I have a new one [01:27] jdong: and I am just not sure how or against what to file a bug (if I am not doing anything wrong myself) [01:27] ok can you pastebin the error or something? [01:28] jdong: I am running again "clean" (have been trying fixing all day) [01:32] jdong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49118/ [01:32] jdong: I can work around this by including some extra paths (-Fu and -Fi), but then I get an other problem [01:35] jdong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49120/ [01:36] jdong: if I replace the fond on line 65 in gtkdef.pp I get one step further, but again, errors... that is somewhere where I stopped [01:37] seems like similar errors to the earlier ones, but different place. [01:37] hmm does Debian's latest version work any better? [01:38] jdong: Debian Sid has worked for months [01:38] and still does [01:38] Elbrus: ok, so the debian sid version is good? [01:38] winff is in the NEW queue at Debian [01:38] well maybe we should just take that. [01:38] any fpc gurus awake in here? [01:39] does anything explode if we sync fpc from Sid? [01:39] jdong: do you want me to test using only debian fpc binaries in an intrepid environment? [01:40] if that is possible? [01:40] Elbrus: well I'd rather you build fpc from debian in an intrepid pbuilder [01:40] but first I need to know if I'll break anything else in Ubuntu by just pulling that package from debian [01:41] as you can tell I have no experience in the fpc world. [01:42] jdong: me neither, I was just building a package that uses it... [01:42] I'll be back shortly, food is ready :) === fta_ is now known as fta [02:51] I'm currently working on patching a .desktop file. The .desktop file contains multiple Comment fields for the same locale. These comments contain different values. What should I do about this? desktop-file-validate complains about having two comment fields for the same locale, and I am unable to read the actual comment to decide which one to keep [02:57] nhandler: Ask in a #ubuntu-translators? [02:57] Or ask the might google to translate it for you? [02:58] RAOF: Is there a way to figure out the language that the two letters symbolize? [02:58] Ask google to guess the language from the comment? :) [02:59] Or, post the actual two-letter-code here or in #ubuntu-translators and see if someone knows? [02:59] RAOF: there appears to be no #ubuntu-translators [03:01] Well, Google detected the LO comment as Laothian. However, it is unable to translate it to English [03:01] Elbrus: What about the #ubuntu-translators channel that I just joined? [03:02] It detected the FA comment as persian, but is unable to translate that to English either. I guess I'll try the -translators channel [03:02] RAOF: I don't get it, when I used the link to the channel in my IRC reader I got to an empty channal [03:02] Elbrus: Try doing '/join #ubuntu-translators' [03:03] nhandler: at another try I got to the right channel.. [03:08] If nobody in the -translators channel is able to translate the strings, what should I do? Should I keep the comment that occurs later in the file (which I believe is the one that will be displayed)? Should I keep the comment that occurs first in the file? Should I remove both comments? Should I do nothing (and ignore the warning from desktop-file-validate)? [03:09] nhandler: I'd probably do nothing to the desktop file, and file a bug upstream. [03:10] nhandler: Since you've got no way to choose between the two comments, the default action should be to do nothing. [03:10] nhandler,RAOF: it's the same I would do. [03:51] If anyone is available to answer a question, do motu maintainers consider any new upstream releases for inclusion in intrepid? [03:51] Specifically, gnome-mud [03:51] I'm unfamiliar with this process on a whole :) [03:52] at this point, we're in feature freeze (as stated in the topic), but you can read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the process to request an exception [03:52] Thank you, for example.. if we were out of feature freeze, would this be an easy to accomplish request? [03:52] (up to) considerably easier [03:54] Is that something that may be easier to request as a backport in intrepid once released? [03:56] Yes, assuming that it fits the backport criteria. [03:57] Also, it only gets into Intrepid backports if it's _already_ upgraded in Jaunty. [03:57] jdong: building fpc in intrepid is not enough, it looks like lazarus has to be rebuild as well: lazarus-ide depends on fpc-abi-2.2 (the new fpc provides fpc-abi-2.2.2) [03:58] is there a qemu.deb of qemu's trunk? [03:58] * RAOF wonders if the next abi for fpc will be 2.2.2.2? [03:58] Thank you for your help crimsun and RAOF [04:02] RAOF: are you a fpc expert? [04:02] RAOF: I think I'm gonna regret the touched-it-last status [04:02] I don't even know what fpc _is_. [04:02] jdong: Welcome to the Miro experience! [04:02] RAOF: lol [04:09] Am I right you can use apt-cache rdepends to see reverse dependencies? [04:09] yeah [04:09] Then lazarus and fpc don't have much reverse dependencies [04:09] I'm a bit nervous about touching fpc if it breaks the ABI [04:09] seems I am nearly the first to use it for a package [04:11] then I understand why there were so little bugs in Launchpad [04:15] jdong: *if* all works well, I'll put the fpc and lazarus in my ppa (with winff) [04:15] Elbrus: you might be the first person to try Pascal in Ubuntu :D [04:16] jdong: I got that impression yes... [04:16] but winff is really neat. [04:16] so I am just trying [04:16] yeah [04:16] it's tough thou for my FIRST package === joshthecoder is now known as justanobody === justanobody is now known as joshthecoder === calc__ is now known as calc [06:37] soren, I am interested in working on the cobbler deployment. [06:37] I'm reading over blueprints and mailing list archives now. But is there anything you can tell me specifically that should be mentioned? [06:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/272210 [07:05] good morning [07:06] Morning Daniel [07:07] hi fabrice_sp [07:22] Good morning dholbach. [07:22] hiya iulian, hi Koon! [07:23] hello everyone ! [08:13] <_ruben> grmbl .. apparently my local archive (as described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Building%20With%20Local%20Packages) aint working properly .. when i apt-get update i get an Ign on the Release(.gpg) file, which is non-existent .. is dput/mini-dinstall supposed to create those files? === BugMaN1 is now known as BugMaN === asac_ is now known as asac === mneptok_ is now known as mneptok === torkel__ is now known as torkel === tbf1 is now known as tbf === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [12:39] \o/ the u-u-s queue is now < 100 again [12:40] * dholbach hugs geser! :) [12:40] and u-m-s? [12:40] directhex: below 100 for quite a while [12:40] directhex: I can't do anything about u-m-s :( [12:40] 1 → 75 of 141 results [12:41] directhex: that's including debian bugs [12:41] try these: [12:41] - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.subscriber=ubuntu-main-sponsors [12:41] - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.subscriber=ubuntu-universe-sponsors [12:43] dholbach: thanks, those links are better then the ones I use usually [12:43] de rien :) [12:43] some more sponsoring and the u-u-s queue fits again on one page [12:44] 77 bugs, from my POV [12:44] quite lower than yesterday's 97 ;) [12:44] I think we should be a bit more rigorous about unsubscribing the sponsors' teams [12:44] in cases when there's still real work to be done [12:44] dholbach, 71 then [12:44] right-o [12:45] but order by least recently changed... and we have items in the list from 2005 O_o [12:45] maybe I should write a quick unsub script :) [12:45] directhex: the BUGS are from 2005 [12:45] oh, wait. my search broke [12:46] directhex, when I clear queue, I order bugs older touched first, so there's chances older contributions don't get lost [12:46] 29 Confirmed bugs on the u-m-s list, the oldest being untouched since march [12:47] where some guy named daniel holback commented [12:49] s/ck/ch/ [12:53] * geser has finally the honour to sponsor crimsun after he sponsored me in the past [12:56] http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/unsub if anybody's interested :) [12:57] dholbach: cool. Should it say "Please re-subscribe when ready"? Just so there can be no doubt, and so no fixes lost? [12:58] james_w: yeah, right, will add it [12:58] thanks james_w, done [12:59] * james_w hugs dholbach === ogra_ is now known as ogra [12:59] * dholbach hugs james_w back :) [13:16] * tuxmaniac waves at dholbach [13:18] hi tuxmaniac === LucidFox_ is now known as LucidFox === TheMuso_ is now known as TheMuso === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville === cody-somerville is now known as cody-somerville_ === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [14:51] http://www.linux.org.ru/gallery/3106816.png <-- Ewwww... [14:52] what's so "eww" about that? firefox? or gnome? [14:57] laga, the theme? [14:57] morging [15:05] Heya gang [15:13] * directhex is still after a core dev to do fantastic magic things to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/monodoc/+bug/256853 [15:14] Ubuntu bug 256853 in monodoc "[FFe][merge request] Please merge monodoc 1.9-2 from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed] === superm1 is now known as superm1|away === asac_ is now known as asac [15:43] Hi [15:46] Hi iulian [15:47] Hello bddebian. === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [15:52] Hi iulian, bddebian [15:54] Heya geser [16:02] Heya geser. [16:19] hey dholbach [16:19] hiya laszlok [16:19] laszlok: release time? :) [16:19] yup :) [16:20] 0.10.1 tarball is on launchpad [16:20] a few bug fixes including the traceback you reported [16:21] laszlok: nice... I'll check it out in a bit [16:22] something gstreamer related? === superm1|away is now known as superm1 [16:22] directhex: jokosher (yes, gstreamer related) :) [16:22] thanks a lot dholbach [16:22] anytime [16:23] you know what would be silly? if ubuntu came with gstreamer0.8-doc despite shipping gstreamer 0.10 [16:23] ? [16:23] on a 101% unrelated note, have you ever heard mention of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/monodoc/+bug/256853 ? [16:23] Ubuntu bug 256853 in monodoc "[FFe][merge request] Please merge monodoc 1.9-2 from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:29] laszlok: I'll give it a spin later on - thanks for your work on it! [16:52] DktrKranz: can you put your ~sru-verification hat on and check if bug 224077 needs more testing or can finally be moved to hardy-updats? [16:52] Launchpad bug 224077 in gnumed-client "Outdated (buggy) GNUmed version (0.2.8.2) in Hardy " [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224077 [17:04] is it me or there is an issue with flashplugin-nonfree on amd64? [17:18] geser, three users seem to confirm your update works as expected, so I guess it's safe enough to copy it to -updates [17:21] huhu DktrKranz :) [17:22] guten abend sebner [17:23] DktrKranz: thumps up [17:23] Hi sebner [17:23] aloha geser :) [17:24] * sebner is making a dance. gnome updates \o/ [18:31] are daily cd builds stopped currently? [18:34] Good day [18:58] does synaptic not use recommends by default? [18:58] directhex: it doesn't in hardy. in intrepid it does [18:59] slytherin, and aptitude does already. is that all of them, then, in intrepid? [18:59] yes [18:59] okay, cheers [18:59] * directhex closes a bug [19:26] if I start packaging a piece of software(for which I already filed a bug) and I am not part of the MOTU team, shall I assign this bug to me anyway? [19:27] okar_: yes, once you have packaged it and uploaded to revu you can unassign it. [19:28] ok thank you === brandon|work is now known as brandonperry === funkyHat|off is now known as funkyHat [20:30] what is the diff flags that should be used for creating patches? [20:52] does anyone has created an intrepid chroot lately ? [20:52] I cannot :( [20:53] i did it today [20:53] laga: did you have no pb ? [20:53] I have some with exim :( [20:53] if by "pb" you mean "problems", then no [20:53] oups [20:54] srry [20:54] yep :) [20:54] with exim? ubuntu doesn't install exim by default does it? [20:54] in fact, i did it one hour ago or so [20:54] I mean problem [20:54] iirc it's nullmailer? [20:54] :) [20:55] humw [20:55] weird [20:55] I'll check again [20:56] laga: can you give me the url you followed (if you followed something ?) [20:56] mkdir intrepid; sudo debootstrap intrepid intrepid [20:56] laga: that is what I did... [20:56] I'll do it again right now... [20:57] i wonder if my new office laptop will boot ubuntu === elkbuntu is now known as elky === ember_ is now known as ember === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch === Pici` is now known as Pici === ember_ is now known as ember === superm1 is now known as superm1|away === ember_ is now known as ember