| Catoptromancy | Does the install without a desktop only a feature for xubuntu? | 00:53 |
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| Catoptromancy | I downloaded the alternate iso, but didnt see an option to do a minimal style install | 00:53 |
| Odd-rationale | Catoptromancy: you have to press like f4 on the boot menu... or somthing... | 00:54 |
| Odd-rationale | then select command line install... | 00:54 |
| Catoptromancy | ya I checked all options on boot menu | 00:54 |
| Catoptromancy | didnt see that | 00:54 |
| Odd-rationale | all alternative cd have this.... | 00:54 |
| Odd-rationale | hmm... | 00:54 |
| Catoptromancy | hmmm | 00:54 |
| Catoptromancy | I had ubuntu alteranate | 00:54 |
| Catoptromancy | and tried every menu, since I couldnt find it | 00:55 |
| Odd-rationale | Catoptromancy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems | 00:57 |
| Catoptromancy | ya i enabled that | 01:00 |
| Odd-rationale | because i could find that option on the lastest 8.04 alt cd... | 01:00 |
| Catoptromancy | text based installer? or actually installing only text based system? | 01:01 |
| Catoptromancy | xubuntu-desktop is bloated | 01:01 |
| Catoptromancy | was going to just use openbox or sapphire without a de | 01:01 |
| Odd-rationale | Catoptromancy: heard of lxde? | 01:02 |
| Catoptromancy | ? | 01:02 |
| Odd-rationale | http://lxde.org | 01:02 |
| Odd-rationale | uses openbox as the default wm | 01:02 |
| Odd-rationale | might be a lighter alternative to xfce for some... | 01:03 |
| favro | I thought at the install prompt you had to type install cli | 01:03 |
| Odd-rationale | favro: that is for the mini iso... | 01:03 |
| Catoptromancy | heh I just put debian, but ill probably end up formatting that | 01:03 |
| favro | ok :) | 01:04 |
| Catoptromancy | I can choose what packages I can install | 01:04 |
| Catoptromancy | slack/freebsd style installer would be awesome | 01:04 |
| Odd-rationale | Catoptromancy: you can do the same in ubuntu... just don't install xubuntu-desktop and install the xfce4 packages instead... | 01:04 |
| Catoptromancy | ya | 01:04 |
| Catoptromancy | but it forced me to install whole thing | 01:05 |
| Odd-rationale | i personally use arch linux. | 01:05 |
| Catoptromancy | and on that box ubuntu has never isntalled | 01:05 |
| Catoptromancy | it locks up installer | 01:05 |
| danopia | opps? | 01:19 |
| DasYogi | Quick question - how do you manually set up a wired network connection in xubuntu? | 03:23 |
| Fersure | Morning. | 04:06 |
| Odd-rationale | evening | 04:07 |
| flyback | is there some magic I have to do in X when I change a video card | 04:54 |
| flyback | cause it's only giving me 800x600 in settings manager now | 04:54 |
| flyback | what the canuck | 04:54 |
| flyback | X sees the card btw | 04:54 |
| * flyback loses his mind | 04:55 | |
| flyback | at least it's not as bad as feDORKA | 04:55 |
| flyback | canucking piece of s*** just aborts out the whole X and all my apps without asking if I try to change res | 04:55 |
| Odd-rationale | flyback: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? | 04:57 |
| flyback | ugh | 04:57 |
| flyback | might be a tad card | 04:57 |
| Odd-rationale | here's an easy way: sudo apg-get update; sudo apt-get install pastebinit; cat /etc/X11/xorg.con | pastebinit | 04:58 |
| Odd-rationale | *conf | 04:58 |
| flyback | eh | 04:58 |
| flyback | that last part | 04:58 |
| flyback | is that a correct or part of that line | 04:59 |
| Odd-rationale | the laste part i meant to write: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit | 04:59 |
| flyback | nice trick | 05:00 |
| flyback | damn in all my yrs of hw and sw hacking | 05:00 |
| flyback | damn | 05:00 |
| Odd-rationale | flyback: got the link? | 05:00 |
| flyback | hang on the box is old and it's also a vm host | 05:00 |
| flyback | so I hope I don't have to reboot it again | 05:01 |
| flyback | oh that owns your "canuck" | 05:02 |
| flyback | http://pastebin.com/f25095e36 | 05:02 |
| flyback | it's not critical I will just do without the box if I have to | 05:05 |
| Odd-rationale | flyback: ok. so what card do you have? | 05:05 |
| flyback | I tried both a rage pro and a rage128 | 05:05 |
| flyback | used to have a tnt | 05:05 |
| Odd-rationale | flyback: can you pastebin the output of xrandr ? | 05:05 |
| flyback | where do I find that | 05:05 |
| flyback | would you rather have my x.org log | 05:06 |
| Odd-rationale | flyback: just type "xrandr" in a terminal | 05:06 |
| flyback | said can't open display | 05:06 |
| flyback | I am NOT in front of that box right now nor can I be | 05:06 |
| Odd-rationale | oh ok... | 05:07 |
| flyback | I think I will just punt for tonight | 05:07 |
| Odd-rationale | ok... | 05:07 |
| flyback | I was just hoping I was missing something dumb | 05:07 |
| flyback | wtf | 05:08 |
| flyback | looks like it did the same shit the last card did | 05:08 |
| flyback | just wrote off all the resolutions as hsync out of range | 05:08 |
| flyback | pos | 05:08 |
| flyback | thx anyways | 05:37 |
| flyback | i'll just live with the shit card | 05:37 |
| flyback | not worth it | 05:37 |
| flyback | great now that won't work either | 05:41 |
| * flyback will format tomarrow | 05:41 | |
| flyback | yeah that's the final straw | 05:43 |
| Theban | I like the look and feel of how nautilus handles ftp, is there something similar for the xfce desktop environment? | 09:29 |
| TheSheep | Theban: no, use an actual ftp client | 09:32 |
| TheSheep | Theban: or you could mount an ftp filesystem with fuse | 09:32 |
| Theban | is there a gui one though | 09:32 |
| Theban | aha, that sounds good | 09:32 |
| TheSheep | Theban: gftp has gui, for example | 09:32 |
| Theban | a gui like thunar? | 09:33 |
| Theban | i think i'll try the mounting with fuse option | 09:33 |
| Theban | ty so much TheSheep | 09:35 |
| TheSheep | no, a gui like an ftp client, not like a file manager | 09:35 |
| Theban | the mount option is perfect for me | 09:35 |
| Theban | I was trying debmirror earlier and it kept stopping with less than 10% done and stating "Transfer truncated" | 09:36 |
| Theban | so I decided to just ftp it and copy/paste | 09:36 |
| Theban | alright, one last question before i go | 09:42 |
| Theban | why does Thunar have large font for everything when run as normal user but looks perfectly fine when run as root? | 09:43 |
| Theban | how can i fix this? | 09:43 |
| TheSheep | Theban: settings->setting manager->user interface and set the font size there | 09:54 |
| Theban | it says Font is Sans 9 | 09:55 |
| Theban | and that settings applies to all windows and Thunar with the only one with the large font | 09:56 |
| TheSheep | is this a normal install of xubuntu? | 09:56 |
| Theban | yes | 09:57 |
| Theban | 8.04.1 | 09:57 |
| favro | might be something in .config | 09:57 |
| TheSheep | do you have a .gtkrc-2.0 file in your home directory? | 09:57 |
| Theban | before and after updates right after install, it was like that | 09:57 |
| Theban | nope | 09:58 |
| TheSheep | Theban: it's a hidden file... | 09:58 |
| Theban | i know that | 09:58 |
| TheSheep | ok | 09:58 |
| Theban | hidden files are shown.. | 09:58 |
| Theban | lol | 09:58 |
| Theban | .gstreamer-0.10 then .local | 09:59 |
| Theban | it would be between them | 09:59 |
| TheSheep | what if you try a different theme? | 09:59 |
| Theban | it was that way out of box, after update, then after i changed themes but i will happily check any theme | 09:59 |
| Theban | which theme should i try? | 09:59 |
| TheSheep | any | 10:00 |
| TheSheep | Human, for example, or murrina stormcloud | 10:00 |
| Theban | Human is same | 10:01 |
| Theban | was already using Murrina | 10:01 |
| TheSheep | :/ | 10:01 |
| Theban | yep, i'm baffled | 10:01 |
| TheSheep | Theban: no idea then, you might want to check the forums or bugtracker | 10:01 |
| Theban | the odd thing is, 7.10 doesn't have that problem out of box | 10:02 |
| Theban | but if you do all the updates | 10:02 |
| Theban | it appears | 10:02 |
| Theban | 8.04 has it already | 10:02 |
| TheSheep | not for me | 10:02 |
| Theban | odd | 10:02 |
| Theban | i can't figure out how it can only be thunar with the problem and to top it off, running it as root works fine | 10:03 |
| Theban | --_-- | 10:03 |
| TheSheep | well, running it as root makes it use root's gtk theme | 10:04 |
| TheSheep | you can have rules in your gtk theme or gtkrc that target specific windows and specific applications | 10:05 |
| TheSheep | how about when you create a new user? | 10:05 |
| Theban | aha, someone found a fix | 10:18 |
| Theban | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/230857 | 10:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 230857 in thunar "Font too big in some thunar window" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:18 |
| TheSheep | Theban: great | 10:18 |
| Theban | ^_^ | 10:19 |
| homebrewcider | Hi there, I attached a new scanner, but it's not getting picked up, is there a command to run to probe for new devices? Thanx | 10:21 |
| Theban | oh, yes actually | 10:21 |
| Theban | not the probe | 10:21 |
| Theban | but | 10:21 |
| Theban | 1 sec, i'll get the full info | 10:21 |
| TheSheep | homebrewcider: does lsusb list it? | 10:23 |
| homebrewcider | mmm | 10:24 |
| homebrewcider | not sure, this and the previous are both Canon | 10:24 |
| TheSheep | homebrewcider: lsusb will only display connected devices | 10:25 |
| homebrewcider | yes | 10:25 |
| homebrewcider | Bus 001 Device 013: ID 04a9:1725 Canon, Inc. | 10:25 |
| homebrewcider | ok | 10:25 |
| TheSheep | ok, install sane-utils and try running sane-find-scanner | 10:26 |
| TheSheep | ok, install sane-utils and try running sane-find-scanner | 10:26 |
| homebrewcider | sorry, acciddentally closed | 10:26 |
| homebrewcider | may have missed last post | 10:27 |
| homebrewcider | lsusb lists it | 10:27 |
| homebrewcider | nope | 10:33 |
| homebrewcider | now I got it | 10:34 |
| homebrewcider | cheers | 10:34 |
| homebrewcider | may have spoken too soon | 10:34 |
| homebrewcider | found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x1725 [MP610 series]) at libusb:002:006 but scanner program finds nothing | 10:36 |
| TheSheep | homebrewcider: maybe check on sane.org if it's supported | 10:39 |
| homebrewcider | ok | 10:42 |
| homebrewcider | cheers | 10:42 |
| Ben_Cs | hello | 11:20 |
| Ben_Cs | what's the difference between gtkpod and gtkpod-aac? | 11:21 |
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| * leche is away: Ich bin beschäftigt | 16:42 | |
| TheSheep | leche: can you please disable that? | 16:44 |
| leche | TheSheep: it is | 16:44 |
| TheSheep | leche: thanks | 16:44 |
| leche | TheSheep: just wanted to know, what this option does ;-) i got punished in like 20 channels for it | 16:45 |
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| vidd | anyone use wicd wireless network manager? | 17:36 |
| Odd-rationale | vidd: i've used is before... but not now... | 17:39 |
| vidd | what did you think? | 17:41 |
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| Odd-rationale | vidd: it's ok... you need to try it for your self though... | 17:45 |
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| gmstalk | hello? | 19:16 |
| gmstalk | help say | 19:18 |
| vidd | gmstalk, what up? | 19:23 |
| vidd | gmstalk, what up? | 19:23 |
| gmstalk | not much, it has been about 12 years since I used irc | 19:23 |
| gmstalk | so I am a bit rusty | 19:23 |
| vidd | hrm...i thought you were asking for help | 19:24 |
| gmstalk | I am, I am interested in creating an applauncher | 19:24 |
| gmstalk | in xfce | 19:24 |
| vidd | ok' | 19:24 |
| vidd | what problem are you having? | 19:24 |
| gmstalk | in gnome this is pretty easy, since it does it form | 19:24 |
| slimjimflim | what wifi program do you guys use? i've used kwifi before, but i don't think xubuntu comes w/ one | 19:25 |
| gmstalk | Currently there is no "applications" button for example | 19:25 |
| vidd | gmstalk, what happened to it? | 19:25 |
| gmstalk | for wifi i use nm-applet | 19:25 |
| vidd | should be on the top panel, left side | 19:25 |
| gmstalk | I never had an applications button | 19:25 |
| vidd | do you have panels? | 19:26 |
| gmstalk | in xfce, only in gnome (ubunut) | 19:26 |
| vidd | ok...does your xfce have panels? | 19:26 |
| gmstalk | I think panels is part of the meta package | 19:26 |
| gmstalk | it should be installed | 19:26 |
| vidd | it is....but the question is....are they there? | 19:27 |
| gmstalk | yes, they are there | 19:27 |
| gmstalk | I have the clock and battery and such | 19:27 |
| gmstalk | but no applications button. I think I have to create on manually | 19:27 |
| vidd | then simply right-click where you want the Applications button to be.... | 19:28 |
| vidd | choose "Add new Item" | 19:28 |
| gmstalk | ogo it, add new item | 19:28 |
| gmstalk | do I chose launcher? | 19:28 |
| vidd | xfce Menu | 19:29 |
| vidd | ^^^gives you the applications menu | 19:29 |
| gmstalk | poop, no xfce menu. | 19:30 |
| vidd | choose launcher if you want to make your own "quicklaunch" button | 19:30 |
| gmstalk | I have other things to chose, just no the xfce menu. | 19:30 |
| vidd | gmstalk, did you install xfce4 or or xubuntu-desktop? | 19:30 |
| gmstalk | I install xfce, perhaps I should have done the desktop instead? | 19:31 |
| vidd | yes...then you get the total package | 19:31 |
| gmstalk | I will do that. I think that must be it. | 19:32 |
| vidd | the command is sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 19:32 |
| gmstalk | I really like XFCE. I am using it for vid capture with kino. | 19:32 |
| gmstalk | the low overhead improved the quality. I just have a few annoyances and you have helped me. Thanks! | 19:33 |
| vidd | np | 19:33 |
| vidd | you have issues, you come here first! | 19:34 |
| vidd | =] | 19:34 |
| gmstalk | cool, I installed. I will check it out now. thanks again | 19:37 |
| Unbe | Hey, folks. I've tried a million different ways of dealing with this problem, and I keep landing in the same place: is there a way to force Xubuntu's Xorg to use a particular screen geometry on startup, and *not* autodetect the display? | 20:15 |
| Unbe | When I start up headless, I get kicked into low graphics mode, and I want to force it to use the resolution I want so that I can VNC into my existing session. | 20:16 |
| Odd-rationale | Unbe: only happens when you start headless? | 20:17 |
| Unbe | Yeah. With the monitor attached, it boots fine. | 20:17 |
| Unbe | And in fact, it uses the screen geometry I've set, which is not default for the monitor. | 20:18 |
| Odd-rationale | Unbe: try adding a mode subsection... | 20:19 |
| Odd-rationale | Unbe: see my "screen" section from my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1208549 | 20:20 |
| Odd-rationale | also... | 20:20 |
| Odd-rationale | !resolution | 20:20 |
| ubottu | The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto | 20:20 |
| Unbe | Hmm. So the low graphics warning is Ubuntu's response to X not finding a working graphics mode, based on autodetection? | 20:21 |
| Odd-rationale | Unbe: i'm not sure... it might be due to xorg trying to auto detect your settings but finding no monitor attached... | 20:21 |
| gmstalk | msg vidd | 20:22 |
| gmstalk | I had to remove xfce entirely, then install xubuntu-desktop, deleter the .cache stuff and it works great | 20:23 |
| Unbe | Odd-rationale: thanks. I'll try setting things manually. I hate dealing with xorg.conf. :/ It's like kicking yourself in the teeth. | 20:23 |
| gmstalk | I have an application menu in xfce now. | 20:23 |
| gmstalk | thanks vidd | 20:23 |
| vidd | gmstalk, it is poor edicate to private message someone without asking permission first | 20:23 |
| gmstalk | ah, sorry about that | 20:24 |
| Odd-rationale | !pm | 20:24 |
| ubottu | Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude. | 20:24 |
| gmstalk | oh! OK | 20:24 |
| Myrtti | there are exceptions, but as a rule of thumb it's good to ask first | 20:24 |
| gmstalk | sorry everyone...join #penalty_box | 20:26 |
| vidd | hehe...no problem.... | 20:26 |
| Myrtti | :-D | 20:26 |
| vidd | you said b4 that you havent been on IRC for several years | 20:26 |
| gmstalk | I used to do technical support on IRC back in 1996 for an ISP | 20:27 |
| gmstalk | but I forgot most of what I knew. Anyways, this was very helpful. More so than my google searches. So thanks. | 20:28 |
| roofy2k | can anyone tell me if there's an up to date HCL for xubuntu? | 22:00 |
| Odd-rationale | roofy2k: HCL? what does that stand for? | 22:08 |
| roofy2k | harware compatibility list, i'm tired of having NVIDIA issues, i was hoping to see a list of test hardware | 22:09 |
| Myrtti | !hardware | 22:10 |
| ubottu | For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 22:10 |
| Myrtti | but I guess those you've read already | 22:10 |
| roofy2k | sweet | 22:10 |
| stweston | hello, everyone | 23:57 |
| stweston | is anyone there? | 23:58 |
| stweston | hello? is anyone there? | 23:59 |
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