[00:53] Does the install without a desktop only a feature for xubuntu? [00:53] I downloaded the alternate iso, but didnt see an option to do a minimal style install [00:54] Catoptromancy: you have to press like f4 on the boot menu... or somthing... [00:54] then select command line install... [00:54] ya I checked all options on boot menu [00:54] didnt see that [00:54] all alternative cd have this.... [00:54] hmm... [00:54] hmmm [00:54] I had ubuntu alteranate [00:55] and tried every menu, since I couldnt find it [00:57] Catoptromancy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems [01:00] ya i enabled that [01:00] because i could find that option on the lastest 8.04 alt cd... [01:01] text based installer? or actually installing only text based system? [01:01] xubuntu-desktop is bloated [01:01] was going to just use openbox or sapphire without a de [01:02] Catoptromancy: heard of lxde? [01:02] ? [01:02] http://lxde.org [01:02] uses openbox as the default wm [01:03] might be a lighter alternative to xfce for some... [01:03] I thought at the install prompt you had to type install cli [01:03] favro: that is for the mini iso... [01:03] heh I just put debian, but ill probably end up formatting that [01:04] ok :) [01:04] I can choose what packages I can install [01:04] slack/freebsd style installer would be awesome [01:04] Catoptromancy: you can do the same in ubuntu... just don't install xubuntu-desktop and install the xfce4 packages instead... [01:04] ya [01:05] but it forced me to install whole thing [01:05] i personally use arch linux. [01:05] and on that box ubuntu has never isntalled [01:05] it locks up installer [01:19] opps? [03:23] Quick question - how do you manually set up a wired network connection in xubuntu? [04:06] Morning. [04:07] evening [04:54] is there some magic I have to do in X when I change a video card [04:54] cause it's only giving me 800x600 in settings manager now [04:54] what the canuck [04:54] X sees the card btw [04:55] * flyback loses his mind [04:55] at least it's not as bad as feDORKA [04:55] canucking piece of s*** just aborts out the whole X and all my apps without asking if I try to change res [04:57] flyback: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? [04:57] ugh [04:57] might be a tad card [04:58] here's an easy way: sudo apg-get update; sudo apt-get install pastebinit; cat /etc/X11/xorg.con | pastebinit [04:58] *conf [04:58] eh [04:58] that last part [04:59] is that a correct or part of that line [04:59] the laste part i meant to write: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit [05:00] nice trick [05:00] damn in all my yrs of hw and sw hacking [05:00] damn [05:00] flyback: got the link? [05:00] hang on the box is old and it's also a vm host [05:01] so I hope I don't have to reboot it again [05:02] oh that owns your "canuck" [05:02] http://pastebin.com/f25095e36 [05:05] it's not critical I will just do without the box if I have to [05:05] flyback: ok. so what card do you have? [05:05] I tried both a rage pro and a rage128 [05:05] used to have a tnt [05:05] flyback: can you pastebin the output of xrandr ? [05:05] where do I find that [05:06] would you rather have my x.org log [05:06] flyback: just type "xrandr" in a terminal [05:06] said can't open display [05:06] I am NOT in front of that box right now nor can I be [05:07] oh ok... [05:07] I think I will just punt for tonight [05:07] ok... [05:07] I was just hoping I was missing something dumb [05:08] wtf [05:08] looks like it did the same shit the last card did [05:08] just wrote off all the resolutions as hsync out of range [05:08] pos [05:37] thx anyways [05:37] i'll just live with the shit card [05:37] not worth it [05:41] great now that won't work either [05:41] * flyback will format tomarrow [05:43] yeah that's the final straw [09:29] I like the look and feel of how nautilus handles ftp, is there something similar for the xfce desktop environment? [09:32] Theban: no, use an actual ftp client [09:32] Theban: or you could mount an ftp filesystem with fuse [09:32] is there a gui one though [09:32] aha, that sounds good [09:32] Theban: gftp has gui, for example [09:33] a gui like thunar? [09:33] i think i'll try the mounting with fuse option [09:35] ty so much TheSheep [09:35] no, a gui like an ftp client, not like a file manager [09:35] the mount option is perfect for me [09:36] I was trying debmirror earlier and it kept stopping with less than 10% done and stating "Transfer truncated" [09:36] so I decided to just ftp it and copy/paste [09:42] alright, one last question before i go [09:43] why does Thunar have large font for everything when run as normal user but looks perfectly fine when run as root? [09:43] how can i fix this? [09:54] Theban: settings->setting manager->user interface and set the font size there [09:55] it says Font is Sans 9 [09:56] and that settings applies to all windows and Thunar with the only one with the large font [09:56] is this a normal install of xubuntu? [09:57] yes [09:57] 8.04.1 [09:57] might be something in .config [09:57] do you have a .gtkrc-2.0 file in your home directory? [09:57] before and after updates right after install, it was like that [09:58] nope [09:58] Theban: it's a hidden file... [09:58] i know that [09:58] ok [09:58] hidden files are shown.. [09:58] lol [09:59] .gstreamer-0.10 then .local [09:59] it would be between them [09:59] what if you try a different theme? [09:59] it was that way out of box, after update, then after i changed themes but i will happily check any theme [09:59] which theme should i try? [10:00] any [10:00] Human, for example, or murrina stormcloud [10:01] Human is same [10:01] was already using Murrina [10:01] :/ [10:01] yep, i'm baffled [10:01] Theban: no idea then, you might want to check the forums or bugtracker [10:02] the odd thing is, 7.10 doesn't have that problem out of box [10:02] but if you do all the updates [10:02] it appears [10:02] 8.04 has it already [10:02] not for me [10:02] odd [10:03] i can't figure out how it can only be thunar with the problem and to top it off, running it as root works fine [10:03] --_-- [10:04] well, running it as root makes it use root's gtk theme [10:05] you can have rules in your gtk theme or gtkrc that target specific windows and specific applications [10:05] how about when you create a new user? [10:18] aha, someone found a fix [10:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/230857 [10:18] Ubuntu bug 230857 in thunar "Font too big in some thunar window" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:18] Theban: great [10:19] ^_^ [10:21] Hi there, I attached a new scanner, but it's not getting picked up, is there a command to run to probe for new devices? Thanx [10:21] oh, yes actually [10:21] not the probe [10:21] but [10:21] 1 sec, i'll get the full info [10:23] homebrewcider: does lsusb list it? [10:24] mmm [10:24] not sure, this and the previous are both Canon [10:25] homebrewcider: lsusb will only display connected devices [10:25] yes [10:25] Bus 001 Device 013: ID 04a9:1725 Canon, Inc. [10:25] ok [10:26] ok, install sane-utils and try running sane-find-scanner [10:26] ok, install sane-utils and try running sane-find-scanner [10:26] sorry, acciddentally closed [10:27] may have missed last post [10:27] lsusb lists it [10:33] nope [10:34] now I got it [10:34] cheers [10:34] may have spoken too soon [10:36] found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x1725 [MP610 series]) at libusb:002:006 but scanner program finds nothing [10:39] homebrewcider: maybe check on sane.org if it's supported [10:42] ok [10:42] cheers [11:20] hello [11:21] what's the difference between gtkpod and gtkpod-aac? === danopia_ is now known as danopia === favafro is now known as favro === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville === cody-somerville is now known as cody-somerville_ === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [16:42] * leche is away: Ich bin beschäftigt [16:44] leche: can you please disable that? [16:44] TheSheep: it is [16:44] leche: thanks [16:45] TheSheep: just wanted to know, what this option does ;-) i got punished in like 20 channels for it === danielm is now known as danielm-afk [17:36] anyone use wicd wireless network manager? [17:39] vidd: i've used is before... but not now... [17:41] what did you think? === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [17:45] vidd: it's ok... you need to try it for your self though... === Hondo_Kitsune is now known as HK_Away === HK_Away is now known as Hondo_Kitsune [19:16] hello? [19:18] help say [19:23] gmstalk, what up? [19:23] gmstalk, what up? [19:23] not much, it has been about 12 years since I used irc [19:23] so I am a bit rusty [19:24] hrm...i thought you were asking for help [19:24] I am, I am interested in creating an applauncher [19:24] in xfce [19:24] ok' [19:24] what problem are you having? [19:24] in gnome this is pretty easy, since it does it form [19:25] what wifi program do you guys use? i've used kwifi before, but i don't think xubuntu comes w/ one [19:25] Currently there is no "applications" button for example [19:25] gmstalk, what happened to it? [19:25] for wifi i use nm-applet [19:25] should be on the top panel, left side [19:25] I never had an applications button [19:26] do you have panels? [19:26] in xfce, only in gnome (ubunut) [19:26] ok...does your xfce have panels? [19:26] I think panels is part of the meta package [19:26] it should be installed [19:27] it is....but the question is....are they there? [19:27] yes, they are there [19:27] I have the clock and battery and such [19:27] but no applications button. I think I have to create on manually [19:28] then simply right-click where you want the Applications button to be.... [19:28] choose "Add new Item" [19:28] ogo it, add new item [19:28] do I chose launcher? [19:29] xfce Menu [19:29] ^^^gives you the applications menu [19:30] poop, no xfce menu. [19:30] choose launcher if you want to make your own "quicklaunch" button [19:30] I have other things to chose, just no the xfce menu. [19:30] gmstalk, did you install xfce4 or or xubuntu-desktop? [19:31] I install xfce, perhaps I should have done the desktop instead? [19:31] yes...then you get the total package [19:32] I will do that. I think that must be it. [19:32] the command is sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [19:32] I really like XFCE. I am using it for vid capture with kino. [19:33] the low overhead improved the quality. I just have a few annoyances and you have helped me. Thanks! [19:33] np [19:34] you have issues, you come here first! [19:34] =] [19:37] cool, I installed. I will check it out now. thanks again [20:15] Hey, folks. I've tried a million different ways of dealing with this problem, and I keep landing in the same place: is there a way to force Xubuntu's Xorg to use a particular screen geometry on startup, and *not* autodetect the display? [20:16] When I start up headless, I get kicked into low graphics mode, and I want to force it to use the resolution I want so that I can VNC into my existing session. [20:17] Unbe: only happens when you start headless? [20:17] Yeah. With the monitor attached, it boots fine. [20:18] And in fact, it uses the screen geometry I've set, which is not default for the monitor. [20:19] Unbe: try adding a mode subsection... [20:20] Unbe: see my "screen" section from my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1208549 [20:20] also... [20:20] !resolution [20:20] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto [20:21] Hmm. So the low graphics warning is Ubuntu's response to X not finding a working graphics mode, based on autodetection? [20:21] Unbe: i'm not sure... it might be due to xorg trying to auto detect your settings but finding no monitor attached... [20:22] msg vidd [20:23] I had to remove xfce entirely, then install xubuntu-desktop, deleter the .cache stuff and it works great [20:23] Odd-rationale: thanks. I'll try setting things manually. I hate dealing with xorg.conf. :/ It's like kicking yourself in the teeth. [20:23] I have an application menu in xfce now. [20:23] thanks vidd [20:23] gmstalk, it is poor edicate to private message someone without asking permission first [20:24] ah, sorry about that [20:24] !pm [20:24] Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude. [20:24] oh! OK [20:24] there are exceptions, but as a rule of thumb it's good to ask first [20:26] sorry everyone...join #penalty_box [20:26] hehe...no problem.... [20:26] :-D [20:26] you said b4 that you havent been on IRC for several years [20:27] I used to do technical support on IRC back in 1996 for an ISP [20:28] but I forgot most of what I knew. Anyways, this was very helpful. More so than my google searches. So thanks. [22:00] can anyone tell me if there's an up to date HCL for xubuntu? [22:08] roofy2k: HCL? what does that stand for? [22:09] harware compatibility list, i'm tired of having NVIDIA issues, i was hoping to see a list of test hardware [22:10] !hardware [22:10] For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [22:10] but I guess those you've read already [22:10] sweet [23:57] hello, everyone [23:58] is anyone there? [23:59] hello? is anyone there?