[00:01] That sounds bad. [00:01] You may want to boot a live cd and manually fsck the disks. [00:06] k3b wont burn encrypted dvd's? [00:07] internal and external, dr_willis? [00:07] all of thrm [00:09] * Search4Lancer commences downloading [00:12] * Search4Lancer wonders where the heck XP's disk checker ran off to [00:12] powering off/unplugging linux drives while they are being used.. is bad. [00:14] oh yum, XP defragger doesn't even see the one partition on the external [00:14] well, XP in general [00:18] eep... tried to mount what I believe to be it, and it asked me if I wanted to format it as it hadn't been... humm... might've really done a number this time [00:40] genii: d prob stil persists, [00:41] leumas: What was the error message again? [00:41] Something about Inuser or so [00:42] chown cudnt find \home\luemas\.kde [00:42] genii: pls giv me d command line again [00:43] leumas: sudo chown -hR leumas:leumas /home/leumas/.kde [00:43] leumas: if on kde4 then instead: sudo chown -hR leumas:leumas /home/leumas/.kde4 [00:44] genii: i'm still on 3 [00:44] leumas: Then the first one [00:44] Why not just do all of /home/$USER ? [00:45] genii: this is d new error:chown: `leumas:leumas': invalid group [00:45] Pici: Because his original error signalled something in the .kde directory specifically [00:46] leumas: Hmm. Please pastebin result of command: groups [00:46] Normally the group you are in is the same as your username [00:47] genii: root [00:48] leumas: Did you do something strange like enable root account and then start loggin in with it? Or maybe booted up right now to single user mode? (recovery kernel) [00:49] genii: nope,rite now i'm lookin " user mngmnt n i can d leumas user n group [00:49] leumas: What is result of command: whoami [00:50] genii: root [00:50] Thats no good [00:50] In fact horible [00:51] genii: how do i rectify dat [00:51] You should not even be able to login as root, normally. [00:51] Let alone run kde as root [00:52] Perhaps open a new konsole and try? Maybe you got into sudo -i or something? === gabriel is now known as gabspeck [00:53] Pici: weneva sudo -i i hav 2 put in my psswrd [00:53] leumas: no. Open a new terminal and just type whoami [00:54] Pici: My suspicion is it will be the same result [00:54] silly question: does extracting the .iso straight to the CD have the same effect as burning the CD from the .iso? [00:54] genii: Mine too, but I'm reaching. [00:54] Pici: did jst dat n got leumas [00:54] I have a problem: my kwin isn't starting at kde startup, any hint ? [00:54] leumas: now do groups in that same window [00:55] Search4Lancer, usually yes , k3b will open if it's the default burner app [00:55] Pici: [00:55] AFK getting Advil [00:55] luemas adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev [00:55] BluesKaj, I'm trying to burn a live CD in Windows to fix my linux :-) [00:56] so it is luemas and not leumas ? (u and e reversed) [00:56] hey is there a way to put in a list of things that should be done when a package is uninstalled? [00:56] Search4Lancer, that shouldn't be a problem ...using the windows burner app ? [00:56] genii: ok got it [00:56] sorry wrong window [00:57] grendal_prime: Ys, in the packagename.postinst scripts [00:58] Search4Lancer, copy and paste the ISO to the cdrom in my computer and a windows box will open after the file transfers , choose "burn data to cd" in the opotion box usually on the left [00:59] grendal_prime: Sorry, packagename.postrm [00:59] Also packagename.prerm [00:59] BluesKaj: I believe that would just burn the iso file itself to the CD, not burn the CD from the iso [01:00] the Iso file should work work [01:00] err err :) [01:00] leumas: Was the username the only one you made so far in kubuntu? [01:00] genii: yes [01:01] leumas: If so you can also use this way: sudo chown -hR 1000:1000 /home/leumas (or luemas, depending on if correct u or e is first) [01:01] genii: ok [01:02] Because the first username made gets user id of 1000 and group id of 1000 also, whatever the name happens to be [01:03] genii: i fink d prob is sovled.tanx a lot [01:03] leumas: Glad to help [01:04] genii: the luemas actually is samuel spelt backwards [01:05] genii: guessd i misplacd d u and e [01:05] leumas: I'd guess that was the cause of some of the confusion then :) [01:05] genii: yes === np_laptop is now known as NPresta [01:31] is there a right (tm) way to upgrade to the lastest nvidia drivers? [01:32] Ramblurr: Maybe look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [01:35] with CTRL-F1 - CTRL-F4 I can switch between the various desktops that I have, but I have 6 desktops and I want CTRL-F5 and CTRL-F6 also to go to these desktops.. How can I configure this? [01:36] phoenixz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473859 === gabriel is now known as gabspeck [01:36] * genii hands Pici a coffee [01:37] :) [01:37] genii: looks like thats is for text consoles, not for KDE graphical desktops.. :) [01:40] genii: the driver i want is available in intrepid, but i'm using hardy :\ [01:42] Ramblurr, sounds like you're going to have to install the driver from nvidia.com if you want a version not available... [01:47] is there anyway to do a network install of kde3 [01:48] phoenixz: When I have 6 desktops in my pager ctrl-f1 thru ctrl-f6 work fine to switch between them. Perhaps you are in Compiz? [01:50] How would one go about figuring out which packages one has broken? [01:50] hi i get this error on screen after trying to open some games ( can't display this video mode change your computer input to 1440*900@60hz) [01:50] !package [01:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about package [01:50] I broke my Amarok. I accidently canceled an import of music them closed the program. Now it does not start. I removed/reinstalled the package and still nothing. I deleted the ~/.kde/app/amarok and still nothing. Any idea how to fix this one? [01:50] o0Chris0o: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot and use an Kubuntu disc instead of the regular Ubuntu one [01:52] any help! [01:52] !patience [01:52] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [01:52] bopferman: Also remove ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc [01:54] hola [01:54] !ar | k1 [01:54] k1: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe [01:55] ahmos: These are linux games or windows games you installed into WINE ? [01:57] I'm on 8.04 running KDE3 - something i've installed or upgraded asked if I wanted to change windows manager to kwin4 - should I? === nejode_ is now known as nejode [01:59] genii: do I have to use a disc? trying to refrain from that, no more cd's left :( [02:01] o0Chris0o: See then also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet [02:01] sweet! [02:01] ty [02:02] o0Chris0o: Once you have a base Ubuntu system you can install kde desktop with install of package kubuntu-desktop [02:07] exit [02:17] where in blazes do we keep the xlibs? [02:17] !info xlibs-dev [02:18] Package xlibs-dev does not exist in hardy [02:18] !find xlibs [02:18] Found: xlibs-static-dev, xlibs-data === karl is now known as karl__ === karl__ is now known as karl___ === karl___ is now known as karl === karl is now known as karl_ === karl_ is now known as karl_s === root is now known as Guest6251 [02:20] I think also libx11-dev might be applicable [02:21] xlibs-dev This package smooths upgrades from Debian 3.0 by depending on libice-dev, libsm-dev, libx11-dev, libxext-dev, libxi-dev, libxmu-dev, libxmuu-dev, libxpm-dev, libxrandr-dev, libxt-dev, libxtrap-dev, libxtst-dev, libxv-dev, x-dev, and xlibs-static-dev. This transitional package is only depended upon by packages that haven't yet corrected their dependencies to reflect the new library arrangement. [02:31] does dapper have known issues with "real media" ? konq shows that it should be playing but no sound comming out... ? [02:36] realmedia isn't. [02:36] i think you need the w32codecs package [02:36] genii: so once I have install ubuntu, I can install kubuntu-desktop, how would I remove ubuntu? [02:37] !purekde | o0Chris0o [02:37] o0Chris0o: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [02:37] <_2> !puregnome | o0Chris0o also notice [02:37] o0Chris0o also notice: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome » [02:38] hehe [02:38] <_2> genii you did explain that having both is normal too [02:38] <_2> ? [02:38] * genii hands _2 a coffee [02:38] _2: No, I didn't explain that aspect [02:39] * _2 splashes the coffee on himself.... "thanks, that'll wake me up!" === sean is now known as Guest50634 [02:40] <_2> o0Chris0o just passing information, it's not uncommon to have multiple desktop environments installed in linux. i think i have 9 of them on this box... [02:41] where do you enable more? [02:42] <_2> you simply install them. [02:42] I see [02:42] I consider that messy :D [02:43] actually it makes things a little more organized I think [02:43] hi, intrepid ? [02:43] <_2> Ahmuck #ubuntu+1 [02:44] Guest50634: apt-cache search wm|grep "window manager"|more will show you a lot of them in standard repositories that are available to install [02:44] <_2> genii shame on you. "more" ! [02:44] thanks for the tip [02:44] <_2> apt-cache search wm|grep "window manager"|less [02:45] _2: My sh syntax is inelegant, I know [02:45] lol [02:46] <_2> syntax is fine. i just despise using "more" when "less" is the default pager and miles ahead of the antiquated "more" i.e. less is more than more, because more is less than less... [02:47] I've read that 5 times and it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but I see what you're getting at/ [02:47] <_2> and we'll not even discuss "most" :) [02:47] <_2> Guest50634 the more is less... thing ? [02:48] yea? what about it? [02:48] * genii tries to shake his old bad habits [02:48] <_2> Guest50634 "I've read that 5 times..." <_2> Guest50634 the more is less... thing ? [02:49] yea..... [02:50] <_2> k. "command more" is less than "command less" and "command less" is more than "command more" ^ [02:50] * genii twitches [02:50] that makes more sense. [02:51] hey question. [02:51] o.0 [02:51] bbl [02:51] the proprietary drivers window won't rid itself of my tray. Keeps popping up telling me to install custom ATI drivers. How do I rid myself of it? [02:53] * _2 hopes "right click it and tell it to close" [02:53] just makes the window pop up. tell it to close, and it just foes back to the tray. [02:54] <_2> hmmm that's very un-kde-ish ... [02:55] yea, I know. I'm thinking restart? [02:55] <_2> Guest50634 looked in kcontrol ? system services [02:55] (because it's not really kde-ish) [02:56] looking now. [02:56] <_2> Jucato you been lurking here today ? i've not seen you in a 'coons age [02:57] cocoon's age? racoon's age? tycoon's age? [02:57] <_2> racoon [02:57] yeah just lurking. studying actually. just saw the comment and had to clarify :) [02:58] any idea what the service name might be? I don't see anything obvious. [02:58] <_2> Jucato so what's the short answer on how to "rid the tray of that icon" ? [02:58] that I don't know. but I think the name of the app is jockey-kde [02:58] <_2> Guest50634 ^ [02:58] all I know is that it's not from KDE :) [02:59] hello everybody [02:59] yea, that isnt listed. [02:59] Maybe see if there's something staring it up in ~/.kde/Autostart [02:59] staring->starting [03:00] <_2> genii i kinda like that typo. now staring in ~/.kde/Autostart ... :) [03:00] lol [03:00] heh [03:01] one sec. [03:01] I have a killer headache and not watching my typing as closely as usual. Hopefully the Advils, beer, Neo-Citran and cough syrup will put a dent in it [03:02] <_2> in your typing ? it probably will.... ;/ [03:02] lol [03:02] seems to already have. There's nothing there. [03:02] in the /.kde/Autostart i mean. [03:02] I'll brb. [03:03] <_2> Guest50634 grep -HiRe jockey ~/.kde [03:06] what was the intended outcome of that? [03:06] <_2> find a configuration file that is starting the app [03:07] <_2> if it said nothing then i missed. [03:07] it came back with a load of stuff. [03:07] <_2> can you pastebin it ? [03:07] <_2> !paste [03:07] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [03:09] one sec. I'm managing a whole bunch of other stuff here too. [03:11] here it is. [03:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/49521/ [03:12] sorry about the format. [03:13] I may have found it. === root is now known as Search4Lancer [03:14] I was still looking at System Services, and I found atieventsId. the drivers for my card, it was enabled at boot under that menu, so I disabled it. Fixed? [03:15] don't remember who was helping me with my problems earlier, but I've gotten as far as being able to boot into Xubuntu from recovery mode - still can't fire up KDE, trying startkde from the command line gave a million failures to start x [03:15] <_2> Guest50634 /usr/share/applications/jockey-kde.desktop <<< daz it. [03:16] thats the location? [03:16] would a live CD help me at all at this point? any way to reinstall just the core Kubuntu files without wiping? [03:16] <_2> that's what is starting the app Guest50634 [03:16] Can I adjust the mouse sensitivity? [03:16] It feels a bit off... a hair too fast, maybe. [03:17] so do I edit? delete? _2? [03:17] <_2> Guest50634 jucato would know. [03:18] Jucato? Yoy still here? [03:18] you* [03:19] i have a very silly questions: what do the colours of nicknames in the main chat window of Konversation mean? [03:19] absolutely nothing sumo_su [03:19] they are random [03:20] to help differentiate between people [03:20] Search4Lancer: argh ok... and i was trying to read a pattern:) thanks:) [03:21] oh,i see too [03:25] are there any official system requirements for kde 4.1? [03:26] Raylz: Perhaps ask them in #kubuntu-kde4 [03:27] hey all... I'm trying to install kubuntu on a new system but the screen goes blank before I get to the install [03:27] can you select a language? [03:28] hmm... here's a thought: why isn't the kde package installed? normal? bad? [03:28] genii: always forget that theres a kde4 channel xD sry [03:47] Hi Everyone [03:47] Does anyone know whats happened to planetkde? [03:48] sumo_su: yah I can, I'm trying the alternate CD now [03:49] MattP: http://planetkde.org/ works fine here. New entry, maybe server was inaccessible for you while it was being updated [03:50] MattP: try using www.planetkde.org if planetkde.org doesn't work for you yet [03:50] (DNS cache) [03:51] strange, i am being redirected to http://developer.kde.org/ [03:51] Hydrant2: so its working now? [03:52] sumo_su: downloading alternate [03:54] MattP: try using www.planetkde.org if planetkde.org doesn't work for you yet [03:54] Hydrant2: what kind of computer are you on? small laptop or normal desktop? [03:54] desktop [03:54] has dual-head video card in it, nvidia [03:55] thank you jucato, but it is not working for me :-( [03:55] it's entirely possible that it's using the wrong video card [03:55] MattP: did you put the www in the URL? [03:55] yes I did my friend [03:55] MattP: what browser are you using? [03:56] konqueror [03:56] Hydrant2: hm yea... if so thats way over my head:) [03:56] I could disable it in the bios [03:56] let's see how the alternate does [03:57] MattP: not sure if this works in konqueror like in firefox, but you could try it: type in "www.planetkde.org" and press Enter but immediately press Esc so the page doesn't load. then Press Ctrl and click on the Reload button [03:57] IP of planetkde.org is 131.246.120.250 [04:01] I have cleared my history, and my cache, and have tried as you suggest to use the IP, and I am trying to stop the page from loading [04:01] but allas, it keeps redirecting to htt://developer.kde.org [04:01] I am in New zealand [04:03] weird.. might be your ISP's DNS cache still serving the wrong pages or something... [04:05] i think that it maybe, I though that i could RRS to read the latest, however my feed only goes upto friday 19:33 [04:05] did you say that they have recently upgraded the planet? [04:09] is there an IRC channel that I should report this to? to see if other people in New Zealand are having problems with the planet? [04:12] yes they did and everything should be working now. I don't think there's a channel to report to [04:13] Jucato, my friend, tell me please if I am missing anthing interesting on the planet? [04:15] MattP: the right sidebar at http://dot.kde.org/ shows some of the latest feeds [04:16] MattP: what does nslookup tell you for that domain name? [04:19] Server: 10.1.1.1 Address: 10.1.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: planetkde.org Address: 131.246.120.250 [04:20] this is the correct ip address for planetkde, as you had above [04:21] anyone else from New Zealand? [04:28] wish I were! === jason_ is now known as jason__ [04:33] ok [04:33] hi all [04:35] Jucato, you still alive? [04:37] yes New Zealand is an excellent country, if only planetkde was working here! [04:48] Backing up ~ kb3 told me i had a couple of files bigger than 2 gigs. Well my porn ain't that good. What utility (or bash command) might be good to use to search subdirs for all files and find these big ones? [04:49] I want to search hidden files too, of course [04:50] say I add myself to a group in a konsole, and I want to operate on a file that group has permission to do. Is there any way I can get it to recognize I'm part of that group now w/o logging out/in? [04:51] ep, perhaps `du -k | sort -nr` [04:52] arrgh... my Kubuntu is still blank [04:54] ep: find . -maxdepth 1 | du -sk {}\ ; | sort -nr [04:54] will tell you the size of every dir/file in your current dir - including hidden. [04:54] okay thanks [04:55] sry, that's not right. [04:55] just a sec. [04:55] find . -maxdepth 1 -exec du -sk {} \; | sort -nr [04:56] ep: ^^ [04:56] got it that does sub directories? [04:56] well, it'll tell you how much a dir holds, including all it's subs. [04:57] ok [04:57] So when you identify the large one you can cd into it and then run that command again. [04:58] oh great... nvidia 9600gt isn't supported [04:58] LeeJunFan_: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|' [04:59] ep, does 'du -k | sort -nr' not do what you want? [05:01] NickPresta: no it gives me lines such as [05:01] 4 ./.mozilla/firefox/lami9fou.default/extensions [05:01] are there debs for the latest nvidia drivers ? [05:02] ep, yeah, which is the size of the files. You want the ones at the top... [05:03] the top was truncated :) I did this in konsole. Lots of files [05:04] ep so scroll up [05:04] ep, you can `less` the results, if you want === bloodoby is now known as bloodboy [05:05] ok [05:05] * Agent_bob normally sets the scroll back buffer for konsole to about 5000 lines.... i don't recall what the default is. something around 500 maybe ? [05:07] and an fyi in console the scroll back buffer is determined by the vidio ram avalable to the kernel not adjustable [05:10] Agent_bob, I think the default is only 100 [05:10] NickPresta hmmm that's low... can even be set to "unlimited" [05:28] helo agent bob [05:29] mr---t- shalom [05:30] peace to you === myadmin is now known as boozer === boozer is now known as boozer_ [05:33] does WIFI work in kubuntu? [05:34] does firefox work in windows [05:36] should I wait for another version of kubuntu or go to another distro to get wifi? [05:37] is there kubuntu 8.04? [05:38] !wifi [05:38] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs === CoJaBo__ is now known as CoJaBo [05:40] oh sorry that should be in the FAQ [05:42] anyone here have 2 screens setup ? === ubuntu_ is now known as Kubuntero [05:51] !dualhead [05:51] Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama [05:51] Hydrant2 ^ [05:52] Hydrant2 why do you need 2 monitors? [05:52] boozer_ it's often not a case of "need" but of "want" [05:53] oh so they have dual core so they want 1 screen for each processor? [05:53] Anyone know why xorg crashes when i try to use the Display configurations in kde4? [05:53] quad core .... 4 screnns? [05:54] hehe [05:54] boozer_ heh humour is such a tool === judgen_ is now known as judgen [05:54] judgen bug ? [05:55] Agent_bob: i dont know, and i cant set the modeline anymore in Xorg... just says "unsupported mode" on the screen now... [05:55] worked in hardy with kde3.5 and gnome. [05:56] judgen #ubuntu+i for intrepid Q's #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 Q's === ubuntu_ is now known as kubuntero [05:57] +1 [05:57] Agent_bob: Your C is showing [05:58] Is there a reason KNetworkManager takes 3-20 tries to connect to my wireless even tho it works with other ones? [05:58] other what? [05:59] It connects the first time to any other wireless I've tried. But mine it takes up to 20 tries before it connects. [06:00] is it the card ? [06:00] I hear stories about wacky cards [06:01] CojaBo does the card work in other OSes? [06:03] kubuntero heh i don't C++ it ??? [06:03] ++K [06:03] Never tried any other OS on that one. I had what might have been the same problem on several other computers (with different wireless cards) with several linux distros (all KDE), but I just gave up after about 5 tries on them so I don't know if it would have worked.. [06:04] jkj [06:04] The card is "RaLink". [06:04] !ralink [06:04] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [06:04] sorry. [06:04] thought there was a specal infonode on that [06:04] what do you use to see the networks CajaBo? [06:05] I just use KNetworkManager. [06:05] wait a minute my wibee started to work again [06:06] I thought KNetworkManager was for OPENSUSE 11.0 [06:06] I think it comes with any KDE distro. [06:07] anyone know what would cause my to be unable to view websites or connect to pop mail servers, but be able to be on irc and down/upload torrents? [06:07] I am using KDE 4.1 [06:07] DarkriftX: Bad DNS? [06:07] how can i rewiew a pdf file in ubuntu from downloading it??? [06:08] have you tried wlassistant? [06:08] i'm new with use'n linux, srry [06:08] devo open it with ghostscript [06:09] Anyone know why I have no volume after a Heron clean install? At full volume on the speakers' knob and at every programs setting and can just barely hear anything. [06:09] DarkriftX dns issues ? ping -c1 google.com ;ping -c1 72.14.207.99 # for a test. [06:09] but is that in ubuntu, or do i have to install ghostscript? [06:09] ping works [06:09] but no http [06:09] or pop [06:10] DarkriftX: Hardware/software firewall? [06:10] neither [06:11] DarkriftX search the wiki i think there was a known issue with that. [06:11] jdcnyc: KDE4? [06:11] cant Agent_bob [06:11] I think so [06:11] jdcnyc: is it only KDE sounds you can't hear? [06:12] Using Amarok to play a cd, used V [06:12] Codine and Kaffine on a DVD [06:13] DarkriftxX did you try restarting ? [06:14] no, i wouldnt think linux would need a reboot for something like this [06:14] i thought id ask in here first, but ill try that soon [06:15] I can almost hear KDE system alert sounds [06:16] hi [06:28] hi [06:28] hi [06:29] yes, hi, yes [06:29] oh maybe that's not japaneese [06:30] no, bye, no [06:33] looks more like russian to me [06:34] hello everybody [06:34] mdleyson [06:35] yes, just trying this kubuntu [06:36] it's already been tried. it's guilty [06:36] what do you think to kubuntu mdleyson? [06:37] cool...first ime [06:37] time [06:38] hi [06:38] I think that it is a great system. Tell me please mdleyson, are you using kde3 or kde4? [06:39] hellooo [06:39] guys h r u doing [06:40] helloo jono [06:44] h r u ? & y d u a ? o c u s ? [06:45] shoot he already left. and i was so looking forward to telling him that letters are not in and of them selves words execpt for i and a .... [06:46] kde3 [06:47] mdleyson - a very good system indead! r u coming from another system? === Darkrift2 is now known as DarkriftX [07:02] anyone know where the error logs for knetworkmanager are kept? [07:02] /var/log/ ? [07:03] or /root/ ? [07:06] Agent_bob: r u against letters as words? [07:06] joegeek - what version of kubuntu are u using? [07:07] MattP: 8.04.1 [07:07] i c. r u having wireless connection problems? [07:09] mr---t- only when other people do it. [07:09] :) [07:09] MattP: yea,... my problem is knetworkmanager seems to be connecting and then drops everything and reprompts me for a password,... i keep hitting "ifconfig ath0" while its connecting, and I see it eventually get an ip,.. then it takes a crap on me and prompts me to reenter a password,... [07:10] mr---t- idk any reason !2 shorten things ama possable. execpt for the added unnesseccary confussionism [07:10] been at this all day,.. [07:11] joegeek: sure its not the router/network card? >_> [07:12] faileas: no both my xp and vista notebooks work fine,... and my kubuntu has connected to an unsecured network, and the current one earilier today,... [07:12] wow bob a little slow on the uptake ther [07:13] joegeek: i had a particular network card that worked fine on unsecured conenctions but not encrypted ones ;p [07:14] faileas: well she did connect to this network earlier today,.. [07:14] mr---t- heh i was watching the elves gang up on the dwarves (wesnoth) so i'm not busy but not paying much attention to irc either. ;/ [07:14] lol [07:15] uh yeah right [07:16] faileas: it just took about seven hours of fidgiting with every option I could think of,... and damned me, I cant remember wtf i did,... [07:17] joegeek - what encryption do you have on the wireless network? [07:17] hold on I'll try to channel your spirit from earlier [07:17] MattP: wep [07:19] nope all I keep getting are old good times reruns [07:19] dynomite! [07:20] nah. "get the phone weezy!" jeffersons [07:20] joegeek, im guessing that you have the same settings as the router, shared / open - ascii / hex / passphrase? [07:21] yea,.. [07:22] MattP: open authentication; wep passphrase,... [07:26] MattP: im pretty sure its getting a dhcp lease before it takes a crap on me cuz the ip is in the same subnet as my other two notebooks,... [07:27] joegeek have you tried taking using iwconfig in a command line to see if it works? [07:28] MattP: I've not messed with wireless networks use`n any flavor of linux,... its always been wired for me,.. where is a good howto or a walkthough on iwconfig? [07:29] joegeek: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-troubleshoot-wireless-network-connection-in-ubuntu.html [07:29] I have used this walk through a couple of times [07:29] MattP: tnks,... [07:31] joegeek, is there another wireless router you can try to connect to? [07:32] joegeek - in a terminal, type iwlist scan [07:34] MattP: I've been able to connect to a unsecured network, but its highly unreliable with an extreamly weak signal, my xp and vista notebooks wont even pick it up,.. and my xp notebook is the same make and model as my kubuntu notebook,... [07:35] MattP: how do i convert my passphrase to a hex key? [07:39] joegeek - urm.. try this site http://www.powerdog.com/wepkey.cgi [07:39] do you admin access to the router? [07:39] no === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] [07:40] joegeek - using iwlist scan - does it pickup your router as one of the cells? [07:41] yep,... === Evil_DuDe_ is now known as Evil_DuDe [07:46] MattP: ok,... following the troubleshooting guide, all was fine untill "dhclient ath0",... "No DHCPOFFERS received" [07:50]