[01:03] any help on how to make a DSL connection on networkmanager? [01:05] Pretto, mgiht want to use the dsl tab [01:06] bsnider, the problem is that i have to send a command to enable the radion in my modem, an AT command, and i cant see where i can do that on NM [01:06] yeah, who knows [01:07] that's absurd [01:08] i am having to use gnome-ppp to be able to make a connection :D [01:10] why do you have to go through a procedure like that? [01:11] bsnider, if I don't make that procedure, I will not have a connection [01:11] I just replaced my broadcom wifi card in my dell inspiron 1525 laptop with an intel 4965agn card. I'm noticing now that the "wifi is on" led has started flashing, as if it's a network activity led. any way to get it to stay solid? [01:11] maybe you should get a new modem? [01:12] bsnider, hehehhe.. a new modem just because I can't use it on NM? [01:12] no, because you have to input some kind of command to get it to work [01:13] bsnider, but it is working good with gnome-ppp [01:14] i wouldn't accept a modem in that shape [01:15] bsnider, it's a good modem [01:15] sony ericsson md300 [01:15] ok, nm [01:15] is nvidia-177 broken in the new kernel right now? [01:16] not at all. it works great [01:16] =/ [01:17] my x server crashed when i rebooted after the kernel upgrade and i went back to nv... the restircted drivers manager won't let me use the nvidia driver for some reason [01:17] to hell with the restricted driver manager [01:17] you don't need thatt hing [01:17] i know [01:17] but my config file is good and everything [01:17] reinstall nvidia-glx-177 [01:17] yeah i just did that i'm gonna try to restart x [01:21] i had to reinstall nvidia-glx-177-kernel-source that was the key one to reinstall [01:22] well, obla-di obla-da [01:22] yup no worries now [01:22] the new module building system is really nice [01:22] dkms [01:22] indeed [02:07] .27.4 broke nvidia - guessing we have to wait for a new binary? [02:29] CarlFK, no it didn't [02:44] hey guys, does anyone in here use an hp dv4t, or dv5t, or a dv7t? [02:44] hi. i'm trying out intrepid (kubuntu) and yakuake, but cannot find anywhere how to change the keyboard shortcut so that it'll drop down with F6 rather than F12 [02:45] i've noticed "profiles" for the window, where before it was "global shortcuts" [02:50] how to change graphic driver from console if i can't login to gui? what is the best way? Editing xorg.conf? [02:51] milos_: AFAIK, you can still put commands into xorg.conf, but its a bug if it doesnt work. You should always be able to login via gui at this point... So maybe you should file a bug? [02:52] milos_: use the grub boot menu and boot to safe graphics mode and change [02:54] at home, intrepid daily (with all updates installed) worked great with both wired & wireless internet (wpa didnt work but 128bit wep hex key worked fine). now when i boot up the machines.... wired internet doesnt work, and no wireless networks are detected.... what should i do? [02:54] alksjdaf: is this after the latest kernel update? [02:54] when i boot up machines at work i mean [02:55] danbh_intrepid, i last ran updates on friday the 19th [02:55] heh, its been broken since then? [02:56] danbh_intrepid, Ahmuck: I had a problem when i was upgrading one pc from hardy to intrepid. It downloaded and installed everything except ati driver(it wasn't on my mirror) so i was in shell and i couldn't edit xorg.conf so easy because it was almost empty. [02:56] danbh_intrepid, i dont think so; they worked fine @ home [02:57] alksjdaf: well, just so you know, I have no idea. I was just curious if this was stemming from the latest kernel update [02:57] i think i should just not install any updates until its finally released [02:57] i had to go with this version to suport my hardware [02:58] because of this, I thought if there is some wizard to ask my to choose vesa and then after fixing it to go back to ati. [02:59] milos_, the trouble is none of the ati drivers work very well with the new xorg yet [02:59] you'd be lucky if you got abasic gui out of it [02:59] yes, the problem was with mirror like I said [03:00] alksjdaf: well, I'm in a similar position [03:00] danbh_intrepid, same strategy? no upgrades? [03:00] alksjdaf: strange enough, this release is supposed to support my wifi card, but it is quite bad at it atm. I have to use wicd [03:01] milos_, once you have the ati driver installed xorg will choose it automatically as the best option. you won't need to edit anything [03:01] alksjdaf: nah, Im upgrading asap. Hehe, Im hoping that release that special fix. But for me, and my situation, the -2 kernel works fine for me. So, if an upgrade goes awry on networking, I can just boot into the -2 kernel. [03:01] danbh_intrepid, wicd? i have a rtl-8185l chipset [03:02] danbh_intrepid, are all old kernels maintained in the boot.lst or thwaver [03:02] whatever [03:02] alksjdaf: wicd is a network-manager replacement. Its not in the repos though, but there is a deb, and it seems to be ubuntu oriented [03:02] alksjdaf: for me, yes [03:03] bsnider, yes but I didn't know that ati driver wasn't installed. I found out accidentally. [03:03] alright well just install it and you'll be fine [03:28] okay folks, when I boot from an alpha6 cd, i have no video issues whatsoever. but my hardy->ibex-current upgraded system has glx problems and doesn't run 3d properly. i have basically a blank xorg.conf, same as when booting from cd. [03:28] anybody know how i completely reset my xorg install to work like the boot cd? [03:31] alksjdaf: well, I just upgraded, and that was a lesson in phail. I think Im going with your method. Wait till at least the beta [03:33] what happened after u upgraded [03:35] x failed to load [03:36] I think the same problem you had. But Im using nvidia drivers... [03:57] anything worked for wireless/wired stuff? [03:59] I dunno. I just dropped back to the previous kernel. I'm kinda sick of alpha testing atm. [04:49] anyone have any feedback on the rtl8187b wifi chipset in 8.10? it works to a degree for me.. slow speeds, dropped connections, and very short range. === TuTUXG1 is now known as TuTUXG [05:12] hey [05:14] hi [05:14] y so quiet [05:15] its late? [05:15] hm... [05:16] !schedule [05:16] A schedule of Intrepid Ibex (8.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule [05:16] with the new 27-4 kernel, my xserver freezes [05:18] I and alksjdaf are experiencing similar issues [05:18] how do u guys fix it? [05:18] -3 [05:18] wait for beta [05:18] Grr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/261318 [05:18] Ubuntu bug 261318 in xorg "Regression: new Toshiba Laptop Support (tlsup) driver breaks Toshiba hotkeys; input device does not support 'kbd' input handler" [Undecided,New] [05:19] damn.. [05:20] DanaG: have you ever tried gnome-do? The question is offtopic, but it might reduce your need for hotkeys [05:20] Eeh, not the same -- can't do rfkill that way, and can't do the brightness thingy as well that way. [05:21] mmmm, yeah, thats a show stopper [05:21] TuTUXG_: which X driver? [05:22] danbh_intrepid: sorry, disconnected [05:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/217504 [05:22] crimsun. nvidia 177 [05:22] Ubuntu bug 217504 in linux "acpi_fakekey stopped working for certain keycodes" [High,In progress] [05:22] TuTUXG_: 177.76? seems to work okay here. [05:22] granted 177.76 /is/ beta [05:22] crimsun: which card? [05:23] crimsun: i tried nv driver, didn't work either [05:23] TuTUXG_: GeForce 7150M (rev a2) [05:24] and even 27-3 stop working with the nvidia driver [05:24] mine is qudra fx 570m on thinkpad t61p [05:25] quadro [05:26] TuTUXG_: do either 71 or 96 work more reliably? [05:26] maybe, didn't try [05:27] is there a way to build the driver from the binary but not using intrepid's pkg? [05:28] used to do that with hardy and always works [05:28] eh? I simply use dkms + nvidia-$version-kernel-source [05:28] aren't 71 and 96 still broken? [05:29] crimsun: what that do? [05:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/267682 -- another report about acpi_fakekey. [05:29] Ubuntu bug 267682 in linux "Hotkeys no longer working in Intrepid on Thinkpads" [Critical,Triaged] [05:29] crd1b: I never used either; I went directly to 177 [05:29] TuTUXG_: dkms does the "build magic" [05:30] with the last update on 96 in August, I'd say it's not fixed [05:30] the older nvidia drivers haven't been updated for X server 1.5 (just like fglrx) [05:31] crimsun: so u dont need to install the nvidia-glx-* pkgs? [05:31] stupid nv 2D driver... inverts red channel and inverts green channel (of xv)... and won't resume from suspend. [05:33] crimsun: nvm, reinstalling... [05:35] TuTUXG_: yes, you do [05:35] well, at least you can use nv. I can't. [05:36] crimsun: not anymore, i broke xsere [05:36] why did you break xsere? [05:37] crimsun: i broke xserver when try to uninstall nvidia pkgs [05:37] long story [05:38] PulseAudio 0.9.12 seems like some steps forward and some steps back... channel remixing takes more CPU when active than it used to, but no longer eats 100% CPU for paused streams. [05:39] I also seem to get lots of dropouts on this computer, when using my cardbus Audigy2. [05:39] Perhaps the cardbus controller just sucks. [05:40] are you using the default resampler? if so, try speex-float-0 or speex-float-1 [05:41] and the glitch-free isn't perfect by any stretch even by Lennart's own admittance [05:41] Oh yeah, this system (an older spare laptop) also can't do hpet. When I force-enable hpet, I get less dropouts... but instead hard-locks. [05:41] s/less/fewer/ [05:41] resample-method = speex-float-0 [05:41] disable-lfe-remixing = yes [05:42] I also have default-sample-channels set to 6 so it'll use surround channels on my Audigy2. I'll test whether changing that back to two channels fixes dropouts on the Audigy2. [05:43] Oh, definitely fewer dropouts. [05:43] There still are a few dropouts, though. [05:43] I'll also test a USB headset thingy, and the onboard (48KHz-only :( ) sound card. [05:44] Odd... yanking the sound card seems to have killed PulseAudio. [05:44] crimsun: do i need to do that dkms thing every time kernal update? [05:45] * DanaG curses Toshiba for this keyboard layout. Bottom row: Ctrl. Fn. Alt. Tilde. Space. Ins. Del. Alt. [05:46] Is it possible to build toshiba_acpi out-of-tree? [05:47] yes [05:47] TuTUXG_: for every abi bump, yes [05:47] The tlsup driver doesn't report itself as supporting the 'kbd' handler, so Xorg can't use it. [05:48] crimsun: what's abi bump? like 27-3 to 27-4? [05:49] Even with 2 channels and same sample rate as source, the Audigy2 drops out more than the onboard that is NOT same sample rate. [05:50] TuTUXG_: yes [05:53] Hmm, lots of "requesting to rewind" going on due to underruns. [05:54] is gvfs still a problem causing crashes at this time? I tried intrepid and was unable to keep the system stable because of constant gvfs errors [05:54] D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 1764 bytes. [05:54] D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 441 [05:54] D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 441 [05:54] hmm...... what do 'before' and 'after' indicate? Should they be the same? [05:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/268891 [05:55] Ubuntu bug 268891 in pulseaudio "[PPA 0.9.12 regression], Wakeup from ALSA!, Underruns > rewinds" [Undecided,New] [05:57] How come changing the modelines in the xorg does not work anymore? [05:57] im locked at 800x600 now... [05:58] in hardy i was able to use 1920x1650 [05:58] 1920x1650? What kind of oddball resolution is that? I'd assume that's a typo... [06:00] Odd.. QuodLibet itself is using 13% CPU. [06:00] DanaG: 1920x1050 [06:01] 1080 is the 16:9, 1200 is the 16:10. [06:01] 16:9 [06:01] does not matter..... my xorg.conf does not work with intrepid... [06:01] ive been using the same conf for a long time =) [06:02] Wich i find odd.. [06:02] I: protocol-native.c: Requested tlength=199.55 ms, minreq=9.98 ms [06:02] D: protocol-native.c: Traditional mode enabled, modifying sink usec only for compat with minreq. [06:05] http://pastebin.com/f5acb4a96 [06:06] If you see anything that does not fit with intrepid or so let me know... [06:07] crimsun: some confusing output in the pulseaudio -vv: [06:07] http://pastebin.com/f34ef8e7c [06:08] That's just when it starts.... now, can you tell, did it get high-priority, or not? [06:08] It seems to contradict itself. [06:09] yes, it did [06:09] Oh yeah, let me fix my question: [06:09] I meant realtime, not priority. [06:10] it should have, but you can verify that by inspecting the process. [06:18] I figured this would be the better place to ask this question- What PCI not PCI Express Video Card would you recommend for Ubuntu 8.04. Right now I am on Intel Onboard I believe it is 810 series. ?? Any recomendations? Ati or NVidia? [06:19] And would ask this here so that -- With newer release 8.10 one that would be more compatible with it. [06:20] Oh, inspect it with schedtool. [06:21] Aah. or perhaps even ps can do it, but I don't remember / know how. [06:21] * DanaG wonders if the following character is legal in a hostname: ² [06:21] That's a 'squared'. [06:23] PID 28422: PRIO 0, POLICY N: SCHED_NORMAL , NICE -11 [06:25] So, it's not getting realtime. [06:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/271367 - Any Solutions? [06:38] Ubuntu bug 271367 in linux "Intrepid and Kernel 2.6.27: MSI Digivox mini II (V3.0) false-detected as Keyboard [Afatech DVB-T 2]" [Undecided,New] [06:42] Oh wow, I just found something hilarious... try playing a 6-channel stream (with default-sample-channels set to 6) on a 2-channel device, and have pavucontrol open. [06:42] It'll take snippets of audio and repeat them, while lagging the keyboard and mouse quite severely, too. [06:42] =þ [07:18] * DanaG wonders if a thin-client would be workable as a PulseAudio server. [07:25] does anyone know the status of openchange/openmapi in Intrepid? Is it possible to connect to Exchange 2003 servers from Evolution yet? [07:39] do old kernels get automatically removed nowadays? === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] [07:43] vega_: when I upgraded fromfrom 8.04 to 8.10, yes [07:43] the old kernels were auto-removed [07:44] i mean now when in intrepid [07:44] vega_: I believe that is the case, yes [07:44] i now have: linux-image-2.6.27-2-generic linux-image-2.6.27-3-generic linux-image-2.6.27-4-generic [07:44] how many does it keep? [07:45] Hm. Maybe it _doesn't_ yet auto remove? :) [07:45] as many as you let it? === alksjdaf is now known as arooni [07:49] so everything on intrepid daily is working now..... i think its a good move to NOT update ANYTHING until intrepid is released. that's my plan anyway as i needed intrepid for hardware support, but we use it at work and i need to ensure we have 99.99% uptime & stability (dev boxes) [07:49] make sese? [07:49] sound reasonable ? ;p [07:50] intrepid is still in alpha isnt it? [07:53] do ubuntu intrepid devs know about problem with saving wep 128bit keys (it asks every time on login) and that wpa doesnt work at all? RTL-8185L chipset [07:57] Is wireless working for you on kubuntu intrepid? [08:16] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/271367 - Any Solutions? [08:16] Ubuntu bug 271367 in linux "Intrepid and Kernel 2.6.27: MSI Digivox mini II (V3.0) false-detected as Keyboard [Afatech DVB-T 2]" [Undecided,New] [08:45] I'm having trouble getting my bluetooth keyboard working under intrepid. I've followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227057 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup as possible guides, but neither seems to work. [08:45] I can get hcitool to show the connection, but actual input fails. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might need doing? Is this a side effect of Xinput2 hotplug? [08:47] Hm. I _used_ to go to System->Preferences->Bluetooth and select the 'mouse' service (and I believe that there was a keyboard service too), but that doesn't appear to be there. [08:48] I've never touched hcitool or any of that commandline stuff, and the bluetooth mouse worked last time I used it (which was some time ago, admittedly). [08:48] Indeed. There's a bug about that, but the suggested fix requires an FFe. I was hoping to get it working before I applied the fix, and then verify that it fixed it. [08:48] I guess I'll try the upgrade, and see if that helps. [08:49] There is an "input service", which might be a merged "mouse" and "keyboard". [08:49] And my keyboard shows as connected to the input service: it's just that pressing keys on my keyboard doesn't actually translate to keysyms. [08:53] * persia fiddles with conffiles harder, and reboots several times [09:01] hi [09:01] dbus-daemon is tunning. why? [09:01] my system is zorked [09:02] When I try to run dpkg --configure -a, I get\dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0200' near line 1: newline in field name `#padding' [09:07] he can tunne! stop him mr book === Ng_ is now known as Ng === elmargol is now known as elmargol_ === elmargol_ is now known as elmargol [10:10] gah, 164 updates all of a sudden [10:10] ah, gnome 2.24 released [10:19] show desktop: http://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/intrepid-kde4.png?gda=kO8B70MAAAC5ARj7-9s3lvdQqjFlZh8Oo_BlTYlptYV52W7DTpxUfRxbjvvlhCL2FUQjjqjwipQytiJ-HdGYYcPi_09pl8N7FWLveOaWjzbYnpnkpmxcWg&gsc=Bhj7NAsAAACb85H5ey_CTuv6l4GmAlUs === Hew_ is now known as Hew [10:30] hi [10:31] where is the standby button now? [10:31] I have only hibernation, restart and shut down [10:31] btw, only restart works [10:31] hibernation does try to go, but cancels [10:32] sht down does nothing [10:32] what can I do? [10:33] its a x61 thinkpad [10:41] re [10:41] echo disk >/sys/power/state works [10:42] besides of the x-server crash during waking up [10:46] so, what can I do? [11:01] anyone have huge issues with tonights big update? [11:07] hey all [11:16] zafle: what issues in particular? [11:26] ubottu: bug 272896 [11:26] Launchpad bug 272896 in linux "intrepid - after upgrade to kernel 2.6.27 i cannot upgrade nor i can navigate internet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272896 [12:21] anyone have any feedback on the rtl8187b wifi chipset in 8.10? it works to a degree for me.. slow speeds, dropped connections, and very short range. [12:21] that's the ralink chip? [12:22] realtek rski [12:22] then i have no idea [12:22] thanks anyways [12:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/271367 - Any Solutions? [12:22] Ubuntu bug 271367 in linux "Intrepid and Kernel 2.6.27: MSI Digivox mini II (V3.0) [Afatech DVB-T 2] not detected" [Undecided,New] [12:34] hi. Just did an upgrade, and my nvidia driver has gone missing [12:34] I tried: sudo /etc/init.d/dkms_autoinstaller start [12:34] but I still can't find an nvidia model [12:34] *module [12:36] hello. how can i find out if a given module is used? lsmod|grep? [12:37] kn1ttl: yes [12:37] yes [12:37] ok, very good. i was just looking if e1000e was loaded [12:46] updated with a dist-upgrade, now my system can't find the nvidia module [12:46] any ideas? :\ [12:52] dbglt_: is the nvidia module on your system ? [12:52] dbglt_: how did you install the nvidia drivers ? [12:53] dbglt_: is there a nvidia package available ? [12:56] dbglt: old nvidia-glx packages dont carry over upgrade [12:57] have to install manually again... use the hardware-drivers [13:01] why did they drop nvidia-glx? [13:04] an aptitude search nvidia gives me a lot of hits for nvidia-glx* [13:04] todays upgrade busted my nvidia aswell. several restarts and pushing buttons got it back [13:04] lame [13:06] mickep: meant to say, those *new *legacy are dropped from the end, rplaced by actual driver versions [14:13] hello, does intrepid have full support for montevino centrino 2 chipsets? [14:18] grr, stupid nvidia.... gets a permanently blank screen on resume from suspend. [14:18] Permanently, as in, can't just restart X to fix it; I have to actually reboot. === chakie_ is now known as chakie === lamalex_2 is now known as lamalex [14:41] hello, does intrepid have full support for montevino centrino 2 chipsets? [14:47] IS Intrepid Ibex going to include OOo 3.0?? [14:48] Is* [14:49] Omar87, dont think so http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/intrepid/openoffice.org-base [14:51] Sorry, I don't understand the language.. -_- [14:52] !info openoffice.org-base [14:52] openoffice.org-base (source: openoffice.org): OpenOffice.org office suite - database. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.4.1-9ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1788 kB, installed size 7532 kB [14:52] if lsmod|grep e1000e doesn't print a line, then i'm lucky and don't have this driver loaded, ain't i? [14:52] i really don't want to trash my network card, it's brand new === Regel is now known as regel [14:56] everyone running intrepid ok? [14:57] nspyr: running ok here besides a glxinfo error ( known bug ) [14:57] and gnome-do does not seem to want to start nautilus [14:58] Anyone know how to use the Network-Manager Routes panel? [14:58] ok i may as well help bugtest at least [14:59] I guess address/prefix/gateway/metric confuses me, I expected address/mask/gateway/device or similiar [14:59] whats the command to upgrade? [15:01] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? [15:11] anyone using synergy with intrepid? [15:11] nspyr: update-manager -d [15:11] ok thanks [15:13] will the upgrade give me any prompts or can i leave? [15:14] synergy is broken in intrepid [15:14] there will be atleast 1, but the upgrade should be over in few hours.. depending on the hardware [15:14] yes i got the "do you want to start upgrade? " window [15:14] nspyr: thats not the only one.. [15:15] rconan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synergy/+bug/250869 [15:15] Ubuntu bug 250869 in synergy "synergy-1.3.1-4ubuntu1 (intrepid) fails to connect" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:15] nspyr: when upgareding packages, depending whats been installed, there will be propts [15:15] yes i see [15:16] wst, thanks [15:16] on my main machine, intel pentium M 1.8GHz it took an hour [15:30] is it just me or is intrepid in virtualbox really slower than gutsy and hardy? [15:35] vbox 2.02? [15:35] it's fast fast fast here [15:35] even with compiz on [15:41] yeah 2.02 [15:41] actually I didn't put in the guest additions yet. maybe its just that [16:01] am i being somehow stupid? I have /usr/include/X11/XTest.h but when the synergy configure script looks for it it can't find it [16:01] rconan: depends where and how it's looking [16:02] it says checking for X11/extensions/Xtest.h... no (typo in above message, should have included the /extensions/) [16:03] rconan: check the script to see how it's testing [16:04] normally an if test statment [16:05] this bit I think: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49706/ [16:06] that about the normal way? [16:16] is there a way to delete emails from Trash in Evolution. I have at least million emails and Evolution is starting to run slooooow [16:24] hello! It has come to my attention the fglrx binaries are not compatible with current kernel. Do we have any idea if this will be true on the final release too? [16:25] ratpoison: who told you this lie? [16:26] I've read it somewhere in teh interweb, that 2.6.27 and fglrx don't mix well [16:27] it's right there on phoronix forums [16:27] ikonia, there seems to be something fairly wrong here... downloading with apt-get source and running debuild on it gives the same error [16:27] rconan: why are you asking me ? [16:28] ooh the X11 stuff [16:28] ikonia, yes [16:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/266956 [16:28] Ubuntu bug 266956 in fglrx-installer "fglrx fails to compile with 2.6.27-2 kernel" [Critical,Fix released] [16:28] oh, nice new feature [16:28] "Fix released" [16:29] it doesn't say that on launchpad [16:42] getting "Could not get/set settings from/on resource." when attempting to use rhythmbox or totem -> anyone able to help? [17:03] hi [17:03] i find most of the avant applets to be broken [17:08] hiya [17:10] the recent pulseaudio-update broke skype (ALSA lib ../../src/conf.c:2700:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.so) [17:10] really? [17:10] all of skype? [17:10] skype core-dumps [17:11] i can't help you, but that sucks, cause i use the heck out of skype [17:11] use oss skype [17:12] that doesn't work on amd64 does it? [17:12] i just used it to get around that issue, seems to work fine [17:12] skype-static-oss in medibuntu [17:13] AH [17:13] ah* [17:13] i'll keep that in mind [17:13] ok thx [17:31] hello, how many beta's will there be before stable relase? [17:31] until it's stable I believe [17:31] hey guys Ubuntu sucks!!! [17:32] thats funny tell us another one [17:32] rpg, please stop [17:32] oops [17:32] enough of that in #ubutnu === marko_ is now known as marko-_- [17:33] ikonia, i mean, ¿can ubuntu 8.10 have 6 betas and ubuntu 9.04 9 betas? [17:33] can anyone please tell me where can I get the new intrepid theme for GNOME ? [17:33] pibe86 sure [17:33] rpg are you going to behave ? [17:33] yea eya... ;) [17:33] ikonia, is there a standars for beta's relase? [17:33] I'm not laughing [17:34] pibe86: I believe it's just until it works [17:34] as few as possible, but if it breaks a new one is made [17:34] I've seen varying numbers across the releases [17:34] if your remember for 7.10 I think there was a last minute one [17:34] so ikonia do you know where can I get the new intrepid theme for GNOME ? [17:34] kikc rpg "hey guys Ubuntu sucks!!!" [17:34] pibe86: what ? [17:34] rpg: install intrepid [17:35] ikonia, thanks see you later [17:35] damn it... that doesnt make me laugh... Ubuntu rules... u guys suck!!! [17:35] ahh [17:35] whoops [17:35] damn auto compelte [17:35] borked at the last second [17:35] hm. I think I may move my main machine to Ibex [17:36] how's stability doing? [17:36] sent a message to rpedrop [17:36] rpedro even [17:36] oh. and is Ibex using Eclipse 3.4 finally? [17:41] nemo: that part I have no idea about, it's stability has gone up and down though as development has progressed [17:42] t [17:42] sorry, typo [17:47] does anyone knows how to upgrade kubuntu to latest alpha version [17:48] aswin: dist-upgrade [17:48] it will just keep in sync with the repo's [17:48] i am trying to install ibex on a new system with hardware raid5 (maybe it is fakeRaid) but when i get to partitioning it doesn't see any disks, is there anything i can do? [17:49] jason__: fakeraid is a weak technology [17:49] jason__: sounds like it can't see the raid stripe so can't see the disks [17:49] ikonia: is there a way to know? it is built into the motherboard [17:49] jason__: if it's built in - it's fakeraid [17:50] ikonia: how deceptive the advertising is than [17:50] jason__ what advertising? [17:51] it is advertised as having hardware raid support... it obviously isn't [17:51] jason__: well, that is hardware raid to an extent, [17:52] take it up with the manufacturere - traiding standards, make sure you read the docs though as most of the boards will say "supportws windows" [17:52] in which case you can't moan as your not using windows [17:52]