| kwwii | good morning | 04:58 |
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| Ziroday | kwwii: we must have just missed each other last night? You still there now? | 09:58 |
| kwwii | Ziroday: yepp | 11:44 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: gret | 11:45 |
| Ziroday | *great | 11:45 |
| Ziroday | did you see my email regarding DA? | 11:45 |
| Ziroday | or last nights backlog? | 11:45 |
| kwwii | nope, haven't checked my emails in a while...been working on another machine | 11:45 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: thought as much :) | 11:46 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: well basically DA said unless canonical sponsered the event (not sure in what capacity) | 11:46 |
| Ziroday | then they would not | 11:46 |
| Ziroday | however if canonical does sponser that means that either the winning wallpaper would be the default or at least on the cd and/or canonical would have to put up prizes | 11:47 |
| Ziroday | and since canonical is you in this case :) | 11:47 |
| kwwii | Ziroday: yeah, and promised to include it...I'd have to talk to mark about this before I could agree to that | 11:48 |
| Ziroday | thats very much what I thought | 11:48 |
| Ziroday | otherwise we could always have a wallpaper contest outside of DA | 11:48 |
| Ziroday | similar to the KDE4 one | 11:48 |
| Ziroday | cause what I want from the spec (or how I see it) is that we are trying to get CC artists who may not have even considered doing something for ubuntu interested and have an easy way for them to start contributing | 11:49 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: anyway heart of the matter is that you have to take it to mark and get his decision | 11:50 |
| kwwii | yepp | 11:51 |
| Ziroday | and I am more then happy to drop it or persue this wherever it goes :) | 11:51 |
| kwwii | I have a phone call with him tomorrow, I will ask him then | 11:51 |
| kwwii | better to ask in person :-) | 11:51 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: thats wonderful | 11:51 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: I'll hang out here for the response then | 11:51 |
| Ziroday | and have an awesome night (or day) | 11:52 |
| kwwii | ok, sounds good | 11:52 |
| kwwii | 1 in the afternoon here now | 11:52 |
| Ziroday | ah | 11:53 |
| Ziroday | around 7 here in asia | 11:53 |
| kwwii | working for canonical has opened up my mind to different time zones :p | 11:53 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: I still can't get my head around that when I go to sleep some peoples day starts half way across the world | 11:54 |
| kwwii | for a while I had meeting with people from intel in California and people at an unamed hardware manufacturer in Taiwan...it was nice to be in the middle :p | 11:54 |
| Ziroday | germany? | 11:55 |
| kwwii | yepp, northern bavaria | 11:55 |
| * Ziroday has always wanted to visit germany | 11:55 | |
| Ziroday | my parents rave about it all the time | 11:55 |
| kwwii | the beer is great! | 11:55 |
| Ziroday | haha :D | 11:55 |
| kwwii | where do you live in asia? | 11:56 |
| Ziroday | singapore | 11:56 |
| Ziroday | a very boring little country | 11:56 |
| Ziroday | ever been there? | 11:56 |
| kwwii | nope, but I love green tea :-) | 11:57 |
| Ziroday | ha, well if you ever do come enjoy the food | 11:57 |
| kwwii | I have never been anywhere in asia | 11:57 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: you havent! | 11:57 |
| kwwii | maybe one day when I get time off and have enough money | 11:57 |
| kwwii | kinda hard with a wife and kid | 11:57 |
| Ziroday | well singapore is a nice starting place, its asia for wimps basically | 11:57 |
| kwwii | hehe, nice | 11:58 |
| Ziroday | mmm and expensive with wife and kids | 11:58 |
| kwwii | I do love asian food though :-) | 11:58 |
| Ziroday | if asian foods is anything like the stuff in the US you might be in for a shock | 11:58 |
| * Ziroday is fond of japanese food | 11:59 | |
| Ziroday | but it is terribly expensive | 11:59 |
| kwwii | always wanted to try sambal stingray | 11:59 |
| Ziroday | never heard of it | 12:01 |
| Ziroday | oh that! | 12:02 |
| kwwii | ;-) | 12:02 |
| Ziroday | yes it is nice but very very bad for you | 12:02 |
| kwwii | really, how so? | 12:02 |
| Ziroday | fattening | 12:02 |
| kwwii | ouch, well that is out then...just heard about it and thought it sounded interesting | 12:03 |
| Ziroday | if you like that then you might also like chilli or pepper crab | 12:03 |
| Ziroday | also very very nice | 12:03 |
| kwwii | yes! the chili crab sounds delicous (I love crab) | 12:03 |
| Ziroday | yep the chilli crab sure is nice | 12:03 |
| Ziroday | with cereal prawns | 12:04 |
| Ziroday | and deep fried baby squid | 12:04 |
| Ziroday | mmm | 12:04 |
| * Ziroday is now very hungry | 12:04 | |
| kwwii | mmm, squid does sound good | 12:04 |
| kwwii | I bet you get it really fresh (so it is not too chewey) | 12:05 |
| Ziroday | well if you ever are in sg find me and I'll take you for a yummy seafood dinner | 12:05 |
| kwwii | in germany that is the kind of stuff you stay away from because there is no way it is fresh :-) | 12:05 |
| Ziroday | erm the food is okay freshness wise | 12:05 |
| Ziroday | its usually around ~3 days old | 12:05 |
| Ziroday | as none of its caught in sg | 12:05 |
| Ziroday | all in other parts of south east asia and then shipped here | 12:06 |
| kwwii | here it is usually weeks old | 12:06 |
| Ziroday | ouch' | 12:06 |
| kwwii | I have a friend from greece and they drive down every month and pic up fresh fish | 12:06 |
| Ziroday | ooh | 12:06 |
| kwwii | so once a month I get decent seafood | 12:06 |
| Ziroday | well I am new zealander from origin and having fish less then 4 hours old from the sea is just beautiful | 12:07 |
| kwwii | pretty much all the food in germany is fattening :p | 12:07 |
| kwwii | meat and potatoes | 12:07 |
| Ziroday | I bet you get good steaks and such no? | 12:07 |
| kwwii | lots of pork here...for steaks you need to go to brazil :-) | 12:08 |
| Ziroday | ah | 12:08 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: sorry elisa had a hissy fit on me | 12:09 |
| Ziroday | and I miss a good pork roast | 12:09 |
| Ziroday | most of the meat here is chicken, and horrible caged, hormone injected chickens at that | 12:10 |
| kwwii | ohhh, if you like roast you would love it here | 12:11 |
| Ziroday | I do miss my roasts | 12:11 |
| Ziroday | had them alot in NZ | 12:11 |
| kwwii | I buy all my meat from an organic farm so nothing I get has any hormones or such in it | 12:11 |
| Ziroday | stuff like that is hard to find here and very expensive | 12:12 |
| kwwii | the chicken is a bit smaller but has a better flavor | 12:12 |
| kwwii | in the last 5 years or so organic food has become very popular here | 12:12 |
| Ziroday | mmm I doubt it would here | 12:12 |
| Ziroday | everyone likes hawker cause its cheaper then mcdonalds | 12:12 |
| Ziroday | about SG$4.50 for a really good meal for one | 12:13 |
| kwwii | I guess that such stuff has its place as well | 12:13 |
| kwwii | I have no idea what the exchange rate is :-) | 12:14 |
| Ziroday | ha mcdonalds doesn't have nearly any places here | 12:14 |
| Ziroday | its about US$3.18 | 12:14 |
| Ziroday | for a meal and drink for one | 12:14 |
| Ziroday | at a hawker center that is, and thats a pretty gourment meal at that | 12:14 |
| kwwii | wow, that is cheap | 12:15 |
| Ziroday | government has large subsidies on rice :) | 12:15 |
| Ziroday | pretty much near free rice is | 12:15 |
| Ziroday | but in germany you have autobahns? | 12:16 |
| kwwii | yes! I drive my mercedes at around 220km/h :-) | 12:17 |
| * Ziroday wants | 12:17 | |
| Ziroday | just to try at least once | 12:17 |
| Ziroday | it must be so much fun | 12:18 |
| kwwii | at first it is pretty scary...it took me a few years to get used to going so fast | 12:18 |
| Ziroday | yeah I can imagine | 12:18 |
| Ziroday | but it would be one hell of a awesome commute :) | 12:18 |
| Ziroday | but in germany you don't have national service? | 12:20 |
| kwwii | germany has a great train service (and buses, etc) | 12:20 |
| kwwii | we have a fast train that goes like 200km/h as well | 12:21 |
| Ziroday | serious! | 12:21 |
| Ziroday | we only have the underground | 12:21 |
| kwwii | I have a card for reduced prices in the 1st class section...that is the way to travel | 12:21 |
| Ziroday | only time I have ever been on a train was in the US and I thought that was great fun | 12:21 |
| Ziroday | but I can't imagine a country that takes longer then 20minutes to cross | 12:22 |
| kwwii | lol | 12:22 |
| Ziroday | anyway I need to go now | 12:22 |
| Ziroday | have to actually get some work done :P | 12:22 |
| kwwii | ok, have fun, talk to you soon | 12:22 |
| kwwii | hehe, yeah, me too | 12:22 |
| Ziroday | you have a great afternoon | 12:23 |
| Ziroday | kwwii: thanks! | 12:23 |
| kwwii | thanks :-) | 12:23 |
| thorwil | hello! | 12:48 |
| thorwil | good morning _MMA_ | 12:51 |
| _MMA_ | Hi | 12:52 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Get anywhere on that wallpaper? | 12:52 |
| thorwil | so Ken V. is gone | 12:59 |
| _MMA_ | Yep. :( | 13:02 |
| thorwil | wonder how we can attract new people | 13:03 |
| _MMA_ | I'll have a wide announcement ASAP. | 13:04 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: breathe/kyudo combined? | 13:04 |
| _MMA_ | Breathe. | 13:05 |
| thorwil | funny how we have endless threads of bla-bla, but now it's like syrup :) | 13:07 |
| _MMA_ | Totally. It's those damn kids. Good for nothing. ;) | 13:08 |
| _MMA_ | bbl (morning stuff) | 13:21 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: still working on it | 13:56 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: preview? | 13:57 |
| _MMA_ | bbs | 13:57 |
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| kwwii | _MMA_: in a bit I can show you a couple of ideas | 13:58 |
| thorwil | me too ;) | 13:59 |
| kwwii | thorwil: I know this is a no-no, but I made this a while ago... http://sinecera.de/ubuntu_brushStroke.png | 14:06 |
| thorwil | kwwii: what is it for and why a non-no? | 14:07 |
| thorwil | ah yes, we don't play with the logo :) | 14:08 |
| kwwii | right :-) | 14:08 |
| kwwii | but it looked nifty so I kept it | 14:09 |
| aantn | kwwii: heh :-) | 14:29 |
| aantn | it does look nifty, even if it'll never be used | 14:29 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: I wanna know what you have in mind as far as a base file icon. | 14:31 |
| kwwii | erm, you mean mimetype template? | 14:35 |
| kwwii | or just the empty file template? | 14:35 |
| _MMA_ | Latter | 14:36 |
| _MMA_ | Since you don't care for the page curl thing. | 14:36 |
| kwwii | I'll have to take a look at the latest | 14:37 |
| _MMA_ | Latest what? | 14:37 |
| kwwii | template | 14:38 |
| _MMA_ | I just pulled from Oxygen. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons | 14:38 |
| _MMA_ | Oh. We're mixed up. | 14:38 |
| kwwii | no doubt | 14:38 |
| kwwii | :-) | 14:38 |
| _MMA_ | The file icon itself. | 14:38 |
| DanaG | Oh good, a straight-on icon set, rather than a slanty one. | 14:39 |
| _MMA_ | DanaG: You're gonna help right? | 14:39 |
| DanaG | I'm not an artist, actually. | 14:40 |
| _MMA_ | I have grunt work you can do. ;) I'd personally like to see less talk and more action from you. | 14:40 |
| kwwii | ok, here is an idea for a wallpaper....not finished, and just a mod of my other one on the wiki...and very brown | 14:42 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/ibex_mod2a.png | 14:42 |
| kwwii | and with that, I will go make myself a tea | 14:42 |
| _MMA_ | DanaG: No "Ok. I can get involved." Nothing? | 14:43 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, what is there that I'd be able to do? | 14:43 |
| _MMA_ | I will have work where you using Inkscape to take the various sizes of the Oxygen icons and putting them into our template. | 14:45 |
| _MMA_ | s/using/use | 14:45 |
| DanaG | What's the template? | 14:46 |
| * DanaG goes up a level... and finds it. | 14:47 | |
| _MMA_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet | 14:47 |
| _MMA_ | Now I'm not ready to start this yet as the template still needs a couple of fixes. But you can still play with it. | 14:47 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Since Ken V has had to take a leave, when you can, I'd like to see your idea/revisions of his folder icon and the generic file icon. | 14:49 |
| * DanaG goes off to classes now. | 14:51 | |
| thorwil | kwwii: http://sinecera.de/ibex_mod2a.png makes me think of sun flares. the horn/spiral idea is not clear there | 15:00 |
| * _MMA_ agrees. It's also, kinda bland. (sorry) | 15:07 | |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Maybe use the logo colors like you did in the others? Transparent like you have the circles here. Should end up kinds subtle but might be a nice touch of color. | 15:10 |
| kwwii | yeah, I am going to put the color back into it somehow | 15:10 |
| kwwii | the darker version looks better with the colors | 15:10 |
| kwwii | I gotta take my wife to the doctor and my son to judo, bbl | 15:11 |
| _MMA_ | later | 15:11 |
| szerencsefia | Is here any 'master' of Metacity? | 15:32 |
| _MMA_ | Probably best to just !ask. ;) | 15:32 |
| szerencsefia | sure, I aim to have shaded state to be different at the bottom edge from normal state. Is this possible to make? | 15:34 |
| _MMA_ | Hmm... Lemmie look. | 15:34 |
| _MMA_ | I can say I've never seen it though. Only active vs. inactive. | 15:35 |
| szerencsefia | right, that I know | 15:35 |
| szerencsefia | I could not get so far anyhow shaded state to be different :'( | 15:36 |
| _MMA_ | http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html | 15:38 |
| _MMA_ | szerencsefia: From looking at that I would say, maybe. | 15:39 |
| szerencsefia | Thanks for this. I sent email to both of them at the bottom, but no answer yet and the documentation did not include answer to my question. | 15:40 |
| _MMA_ | szerencsefia: Im gonna say you can because I see several mentions to the state in various metacity themes. | 15:44 |
| szerencsefia | hmm | 15:45 |
| _MMA_ | Mostly referencing the titlebar. But if it's a state like maximized and whatnot, might be possible. | 15:46 |
| szerencsefia | _MMA_: do ya have any theme in mind that draws somewhat shaded state and I could look into to compare with mine? | 15:52 |
| szerencsefia | or anyone ... 8-) | 15:55 |
| _MMA_ | szerencsefia: The Human theme doesn't? | 15:57 |
| _MMA_ | Hi Conn. | 15:57 |
| psyke83 | hey | 16:01 |
| szerencsefia | if it does so, I did not recognize it | 16:02 |
| kwwii | re | 16:59 |
| _MMA_ | tard | 16:59 |
| thorwil | is | 17:00 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: got any private replies regarding Breathe meeting? | 17:10 |
| kwwii | ooooh-y-oooh taking retards to the zoo | 17:11 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: Nope. | 17:11 |
| thorwil | lets rename our efforts to Dry and Desert, then ^^ | 17:12 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 17:13 |
| kwwii | my secret is to tell people that they have no choice or say in the matter and they seem to love offering ideas :p (joke) | 17:13 |
| _MMA_ | s/Breathe/Choke | 17:14 |
| thorwil | if interest goes up after the release? perhaps including a few capable souls among the muppets? | 17:14 |
| _MMA_ | We'll see. I think it's our show 'till them. Be as open and communicative as you can but I don't expect much for a bit. | 17:15 |
| _MMA_ | *then | 17:15 |
| * _MMA_ goes to play with the kids. (not a euphemism) | 17:29 | |
| kwwii | _MMA_: wait | 17:30 |
| _MMA_ | ? | 17:31 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/ibex_mod2ba.png | 17:31 |
| kwwii | with color | 17:31 |
| * _MMA_ puts up ac wallpaper. | 17:31 | |
| kwwii | just the basic idea, no specifics | 17:32 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: are you working with this as a widescreen? | 17:32 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: The green feels out of place to me but I think this could go go somewhere. Though, this feels like a kid doing his homework 5 mins before class is supposed to start. :P | 17:34 |
| thorwil | kwwii: better. nice to see some fresh color in there. what if you make one of the spirals a bit more prominent? | 17:34 |
| thorwil | oh damn, forgot | 17:34 |
| thorwil | kwwii: please tell us about your intentions, the target audience, what is your message? ^^ | 17:35 |
| _MMA_ | hahahahaha | 17:35 |
| _MMA_ | ***thorwil is now known as troy_s. | 17:36 |
| thorwil | troywil? oh noes! | 17:36 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 17:36 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: hush hush, it's playing time :p | 17:36 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Though, with a darker theme, I quite like this as-is. | 17:38 |
| kwwii | my target audience is color-blind gender transitioned 37 year olds | 17:38 |
| _MMA_ | LOL! <-really did. :) | 17:38 |
| thorwil | now that you say it, i can't make out the numbers in the dots :O | 17:39 |
| kwwii | I am going to take something like at and put it as wallpaper and make another version for GDM and put it in intrepid | 17:40 |
| kwwii | let the forums have their fun | 17:40 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil kwwii: Added new "color cues". http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Breathe_Icon_Template_revised.svg | 18:13 |
| darkmatter | dear... GAWD... next time a themer uses gtk-tooltips instead of gtk-tooltip* they better damn well get life in prison. Maybe that'll make the rest of them get with the program and learn... | 18:34 |
| _MMA_ | :D | 18:34 |
| * thorwil looks at template | 18:39 | |
| thorwil | _MMA_: did you have a look at the human icons and their colors yourself? | 18:42 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: No sir. I did not. I simply grabbed the swatches. | 18:44 |
| _MMA_ | Oh wait. | 18:45 |
| _MMA_ | yeah. I looked. :) | 18:45 |
| _MMA_ | But thought your picks were fine. | 18:45 |
| _MMA_ | If that's what you were after. | 18:45 |
| thorwil | ok. yes | 18:45 |
| _MMA_ | So if you're fine with that format I'll get Ken to look over and go from there. | 18:46 |
| darkmatter | geez.. even half of the upstream gnome themes use gtk-tooltips *beats gnome art team to death with a cluebat* | 18:46 |
| thorwil | scaling the swatched to non-integer values has interesting effects on their borders. they touch, but inkscape still draws a bit brighter there | 18:46 |
| thorwil | darkmatter: what's the problem there? | 18:47 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: fine | 18:47 |
| darkmatter | gtk-tooltips is obselete :P it's actually gtk-tooltip now, but some third-party apps still use the 's', so the proper syntax is gtk-tooltip* ;o | 18:48 |
| thorwil | sounds like the name change was totally worth it ^^ | 18:49 |
| darkmatter | I mean, if they're working upstream they should realize this :P | 18:49 |
| andreasn | darkmatter: you should probably file a bug(s) | 18:50 |
| darkmatter | yup.. and attach an announcement "attention themers: we know where you live" :P | 18:51 |
| _MMA_ | hahahahahahah | 18:51 |
| * _MMA_ gives a glance at his Studio theme. | 18:52 | |
| thorwil | _MMA_: each time i wonder if that's haha funny or *oh yes, that is soooo funny :P* | 18:53 |
| _MMA_ | hehe. gtk-tooltip* in the Studio theme. :P | 18:53 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: Same as LOL for me. It's an actual laugh. :) | 18:53 |
| thorwil | ah, ok | 18:53 |
| thorwil | aantn: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/infolders-informative-folders/ | 19:23 |
| aantn | thorwil: cool | 19:24 |
| thorwil | aantn: ty. think you can do something with this? even if just bringing it to a wider audience? | 19:25 |
| aantn | thorwil: I hope so | 19:26 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: XP does something like this. Kinda neat but I've never found it useful. Can't say no to having the feature available though. :) | 19:26 |
| aantn | thorwil: at the very least, I can bring it to the attention of people who have the power to absolutely make it happen | 19:27 |
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| thorwil | _MMA_: i'm nost sure, but isn't it only for images and will only show the first 4 or something? | 19:27 |
| aantn | _MMA_: if you mix this with os x style previews and big (coverflowed?) icons then it's a lot more useful | 19:28 |
| thorwil | aantn: great :) | 19:28 |
| aantn | thorwil: good job with the mockups, though | 19:28 |
| thorwil | even just having folders that imply one of: empty, few items, many items would be nice | 19:28 |
| aantn | thorwil: yeah | 19:28 |
| aantn | _MMA_: how about showing a much larger preview on mouseover | 19:29 |
| thorwil | aantn: i tried to not spend to much time on it, but i also know that a shoddy presentation can kill :) | 19:29 |
| aantn | _MMA_: instantly access contents w/o opening the folder in a full window | 19:29 |
| aantn | thorwil: yeah, that's true | 19:29 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: Sure. That's why I said "*something* like this". Last I looked it did video as well. I could be mistaken. And it is only 4. | 19:29 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: yes. i asked because i'm not sure. last i sat in front of XP, i used detail view all the time :) | 19:33 |
| _MMA_ | For me, I just found the images too small. Not good enough to really know what's inside. And sometimes, at a glance, I had to remember what I was looking at. Is that a folder, icon, whatever? | 19:35 |
| aantn | _MMA_: a big hover over would help that | 19:35 |
| _MMA_ | That could be cool. | 19:36 |
| aantn | like os x's quick look but for entire folders | 19:36 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: for me, here, a clue about the number of items is the important thing. if you make something out about images, that's just a plus. pr0n folders should stand out ;) | 19:36 |
| _MMA_ | Though it needs some tweaks, I think the new Thunar preview thing they ripped from Vista. | 19:36 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: LOL! You know though, I don't want someone peaking over my shoulder seeing all that. :P | 19:37 |
| _MMA_ | 1084 p0rn files! | 19:37 |
| _MMA_ | No thank you. :) Kids are gettin' smarter by the day. | 19:38 |
| _MMA_ | *My kids... | 19:38 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: don't you use a harmless/start/path/continued/with/boring/to/in_the_depth/pygmy-riding-on-chicken-pr0n? | 19:38 |
| _MMA_ | hahah Um. | 19:39 |
| _MMA_ | /media/Multimedia/Video/Adult | 19:39 |
| * _MMA_ thinks this has taken a weird turn. :) | 19:39 | |
| thorwil | heh | 19:39 |
| aantn | any thoughts on this? --> http://theesylum.com/2008/09/14/task-centric-design/ | 19:39 |
| aantn | the general idea, not the specific design | 19:40 |
| thorwil | wasn't there such a sidebar in the online desktop stuff? | 19:41 |
| thorwil | good if the sidebar is just a possible container for applets | 19:42 |
| * thorwil never leaves so much space to the sides of app windows | 19:42 | |
| aantn | thorwil: yes | 19:42 |
| aantn | thorwil: look at the notes on the second mockup | 19:42 |
| _MMA_ | aantn: While I think it's cool eye-candy, for me, a dashboard/sidebar gets in the way. This type of feature might depend on audience. | 19:42 |
| thorwil | http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/13/tour-of-gnome-online-desktop/ | 19:43 |
| aantn | thorwil, _MMA_: this doesn't need to be limited to a sidebar; see the notes | 19:43 |
| aantn | also, I wonder if something like this is implementable with the online desktop | 19:43 |
| thorwil | no clue if and how that project progressed | 19:44 |
| aantn | thorwil: it's still being developed... somewhat | 19:44 |
| _MMA_ | aantn: Sure. I'm personally not a big widget user either. I have a very specific setup. So I might not be your audiance. :) | 19:44 |
| aantn | thorwil: I think the usage of a sidebar may have restricted things | 19:45 |
| thorwil | aantn: what exactly is the idea here, if we look past having applets that can sit on a sidebar or elsewhere? | 19:45 |
| * aantn ranted to owen about something similar a while back | 19:45 | |
| thorwil | an idea i support, although i'm not a widget user, either, so far :) | 19:45 |
| aantn | thorwil: track events and display them to the user | 19:46 |
| aantn | show the user want he wants to see anyway instead of making him check | 19:46 |
| aantn | also, make it very easy to react to events and to view related information | 19:46 |
| thorwil | all good stuff. the fun starts if you work out the details | 19:47 |
| aantn | thorwil: aye | 19:48 |
| * aantn wonders how something like this would work out with the document-centric-gnome and semantic-desktop ideas | 19:49 | |
| thorwil | aantn: i wonder if events could be expressed as files | 19:49 |
| aantn | thorwil: why? | 19:50 |
| aantn | events should be associated with documents (not necessarily files) but they themselves aren't really files | 19:50 |
| thorwil | aantn: to use the same search/filter mechanism for documents, email, events ... | 19:51 |
| thorwil | good evening Cimi | 19:51 |
| aantn | I'd say the key concepts to focus on are events, documents (not necessarily files), time, actions (things you can do with documents, often in response to an event), and people (which are a useful way of grouping actions, events, and documents) | 19:52 |
| Cimi | you too thorwil | 19:52 |
| aantn | hey Cimi! | 19:53 |
| aantn | btw, I believe the mathusalem-like progress bars are being worked on | 19:54 |
| aantn | it would be cool to integrate that with the rest of the mockup | 19:55 |
| thorwil | aantn: mathusalem-like? | 19:55 |
| aantn | njpatel_away: sorry, who's working on it again? | 19:55 |
| aantn | thorwil: http://live.gnome.org/Mathusalem | 19:55 |
| aantn | perhaps tracker could be used for some of this | 19:57 |
| thorwil | for downloads, i would like to have the file icons appear with progress bar right on them /close to them. a file search for incomplete files would be used to list all downloads in progress | 19:58 |
| aantn | thorwil: that would be neat | 19:59 |
| aantn | icons do need a refresh | 20:00 |
| aantn | they haven't changed much in the past long time | 20:00 |
| aantn | thorwil: btw, another person just complimented your icon mockups in #universal-applets | 20:04 |
| thorwil | aantn: send my thanks :) | 20:05 |
| aantn | thorwil: heh, will do | 20:05 |
| thorwil | aantn: or is there an interesting discussion there? | 20:05 |
| thorwil | still no subscribers to the kyudo wiki pages. 55 views on main page. maybe i have to take matters piece by piece to the list | 20:07 |
| aantn | thorwil: nothing too interesting; mostly discussing names for UA | 20:07 |
| thorwil | ok | 20:07 |
| * _MMA_ feels like an ass because he hasn't subscribed. Does so now. | 20:09 | |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| thorwil | interesting new theme on http://planetkde.org/ | 21:01 |
| thorwil | good night! | 21:12 |
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