niadhAnyone know how I should mark bugs that are packaging requests? I have at least a dozen here.00:58
bdmurrayniadh: for example?00:59
niadhJust look at this page for all the [needs packaging] bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.importance%3Alist=UNDECIDED&assignee_option=none&field.has_no_package=on&start=150000:59
niadhfor example R4Calc01:00
niadhHere is the example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/27135101:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 271351 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] R4Calc" [Undecided,New]01:00
bdmurrayniadh: it's fine the way it stands, it could be set to confirmed (if it isn't packaged) and an importance of wishlist01:01
niadhI can't set wishlist, I'm not approved as a bug hunter yet, I'm signed up to the team, and have been marking packages as and where I can, but I can't set wishlist01:02
bdmurrayI wouldn't really worry about the needs-packaging bugs at this point in the release cycle01:03
niadhWell, I figure if I can assign them to a package or something then it's less orphaned bugs01:03
bdmurrayniadh: needs-packaging bugs are actually one of the only ones that shouldn't have a package01:04
niadhOh, fair enough.01:04
niadhI shall leave them as they are then.01:04
niadhAlso I couldn't actually attach some packages, even though I could search for them01:06
niadhone was acpi01:06
niadhalso madwifi I couldn't set as a package01:06
bdmurrayyou probably wanted acpi-support01:08
bdmurrayfor madwifi do you mean a wireless driver?01:08
niadhI shall try acpi-support01:09
niadhuhm, they listed an issue as being with madwifi, so that's what I attempted to set the package to01:09
niadhIt is correct that I was told that anything to do with suspend/resume/sleep/wake is an acpi thing?01:10
bdmurrayno, not really01:11
niadhOh, then, I shall not mark the package as acpi then.01:11
niadhI watched a few screen casts of bug hunting and read an IRC transcript and someone said that acpi covers that stuff, file systems are a kernel thing and drivers largely are too.01:12
bdmurrayyou might https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI helpful01:14
bdmurrayfind that helpful01:14
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dholbachgood morning05:35
greg-ggood morning dholbach05:39
dholbachhi greg-g!05:39
greg-gjust heading off to bed, you take it from here! ;)05:39
dholbachsleep tight, Greg! :)05:40
greg-gthanks, dholbach05:41
macohi dholbach05:50
dholbachhiya maco05:50
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crimsunnot even a dent in the pie chart, sigh.06:03
macocrimsun: at all? :(06:06
macocrimsun: incomplete has gone back from 16% to 17% this week06:07
crimsunmaco: well, I'm sure I'm contributing to that latter "statistic"06:07
macojust as i contributed to it going from 17 to 16 2 weeks ago?06:08
crimsunno clear idea, but likely06:09
macocrimsun: so you stopped triaging here, took the metro home, and went back to triaging?06:22
macois there a way to unsubscribe someone from a bug?06:23
crimsunonly if you're an admin of a team that someone is a member of or if you're that someone06:24
crimsun(the former is only for teams)06:24
macobug 207883 someone wants to be unsubscribed (or rather "stop emailing me i dont know what's going on!")06:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 207883 in pulseaudio "(gnome-sound-properties:16528): Gnome-WARNING **: error caching sample <-1>!" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20788306:25
crimsunsaid person has the ability to unsubscribe himself06:25
macoyeah, i'm trying to explain that06:25
crimsun"how do I unsub from this mailing list that sends e-mails containing subscription information at the bottom of each bulk?"06:26
macocrimsun: your location in lp is *definitely* south-east of me. which is also definitely wrong.06:29
persiaThere's actually a bug related to that: although I'm not sure if it applies in this case.  If someone is subscribed to all bugs for a package, and there is a bug with multiple tasks, it may not be possible for the subscriber to unsubscribe unless they unsubscribe from all bugs for that package.  An example in this case might be someone who cares about alsa-driver, but doesn't care about pulseaudio.06:29
macopersia: the person says they know nothing about computers06:31
persiaThis case is particularly odd, as the complainant has somehow chosen to be art of the "Ubuntu Audio Team".06:31
persiamaco: Indeed, but they also aren't specifically subscribed to this bug, but rather a member of a notified team (and not through a bug subscription), which means there is no option to unsubscribe from that bug.06:32
macooh. wait so shouldn't they be getting like 50 billion emails from launchpad anyway?06:33
RAOFIs this the same person that I'm thinking of...06:33
* RAOF checks06:33
macowhy are they only complaining on that bug?06:33
persiaWell, it's only the Ubuntu Audio Team, so probably on the order of 10 million or so...06:33
RAOFmaco: They're not complaining on just that bug :)06:34
persiaBut, yeah, unsubscribe doesn't work for a user with that configuration.06:34
macoRAOF: they complain everywhere?06:34
crimsunmaco: deliberate obfuscation thanks to LP?06:34
macoRAOF: i havent seen it on any of the other audio bugs i'm subscribed to.  which as of this week is a lot.06:34
RAOFCertainly on a bug that I was subscribed to (and I wrote them an email).06:34
macocrimsun: your location? i thought you put our favourite bakery as your location, but it's got you down in like anacostia or something06:35
persiaIt's somewhat related to bug #83488 and bug #204980  I think more 204980 in this case06:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 83488 in malone "Implicitly unsubscribe bug contact when bug is Invalid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8348806:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 204980 in malone "bug contacts should be able to unsubscribe from implicit subscriptions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20498006:35
RAOFSaying "you seem to have associated your email address with a this launchpad accound (link) and then subscribed to the audio team (link).  Unsubscribe from the audio team (link)"06:35
macoyelling at people to stop emailing you when they aren't emailing you specifically and you signed up doesn't exactly make sense in my mind06:38
crimsunmmm, alsa-driver bugs are nearly manageable06:41
crimsununfortunately, the same can't be said regarding linux (well, formerly alsa-driver), alsa-lib, alsa-plugins, alsa-utils, pulseaudio, flashplugin-nonfree, libflashsupport, ...06:41
macowell yeah, now that all the linux bugs that were misfiled against alsa-driver have been put in their proper place06:45
macooh yeah, hey anyone who hasn't read it, here's the updated version of the wiki sound page:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems06:46
maco21098 new bugs...insane07:17
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* thekorn hopes dholbach has a good email filter, moving all buglog-data mails to trash08:59
dholbachthekorn: it's all good - thanks for your good work! :)09:00
dholbachthekorn: when is 0.3 supposed to land?09:00
thekorndholbach, it's in intrepid, I'm preparing ppa packages for >feisty right now09:02
dholbachthanks :)09:02
thekornlet see what I still remember of your packaging sessions09:03
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Hew_I'm getting a system freeze that happens very rarely (once or twice a week and I'm a heavy user) for an unknown reason (been happening since I started with alpha 1). Even alt-sysrq-k doesn't work. Any idea what this is / if it's known / how I can debug it?10:07
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murdokHow can I unmark a bug duplicate?12:25
Ampelbeinmurdok: click on "mark as duplicate" and delete the number12:28
murdokAmpelbein: done, thanks12:29
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[fFf]what do you think about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/27355216:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 273552 in evolution "difference between online and offline help" [Low,New]16:05
dholbachpedro_: what do you think about having the next hug day in the topic of #ubuntu-bugs? :)16:48
dholbachand on the fridge! :)16:48
pedro_dholbach: that'd be great, we only need someone to set it ;-)16:48
pedro_bdmurray:  ^ ? ;-)16:48
dholbachpedro_: do you know if ubuntu-news-team@lists.u.c is regularly mailed when a hug day is?16:49
dholbachpopey: that's the right mailing list, right?16:50
pedro_mm according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Draft16:50
pedro_they should16:50
dholbachwas just wondering because there's no hug day on http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event16:52
popeydholbach: yeah, i think so16:52
pedro_dholbach: right, I'll send an email now16:53
bdmurraydidn't they switch the name?16:53
dholbachbdmurray: I think that's the new one16:53
dholbachit was called fridge-devel@ before16:53
bdmurraycool, I probably updated it too ;)16:53
popeyit is16:53
pedro_yes http://fridge.ubuntu.com/about <-16:54
dholbachmore hug day marketing! :)16:55
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chrisccoulsoni'm not quite sure what pitti is asking me for in bug 271364 (comment 9) - i don't know whether anyone here could shed some light before i contact him?17:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271364 in transmission "[needs-packaging] Transmission 1.34" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27136417:22
bdmurraychrisccoulson: I think he'd like you to submit a bug to debian regarding POT building17:26
chrisccoulsonthe 'POT building' was the bit i was unsure about;)17:27
bdmurraychrisccoulson: I'd check with him then.17:30
chrisccoulsonno problem. thanks17:31
bdmurraypedro_: I wonder if we should incorporate http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/update-manager/ into the bug day wiki page17:36
bdmurrayor maybe just the triaging graph - http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/complete-graphs/update-manager/plots/update-manager-1day-triaging.png17:38
pedro_bdmurray: yeah!, the second one it's better for the task17:39
pedro_bdmurray: i'll update the page with it17:39
bdmurraypedro_: great!17:39
macoapachelogger: looking at 5aday stats, i must say: O_O18:11
* apachelogger didn't add since 2008-08-17 ;-)18:12
macoi was just calculating it, and to do 455 bugs at one bug a minute, it'd take 7 hours solid18:14
macoapachelogger: i do find it quite odd though that you're not showing in the "ever" list when you should be number 1518:22
apacheloggermaco: I pipe the bug mails to a file then process the file witha  script which spits out all the bugs I was working on18:23
apacheloggerin fact, I think 5aday should do this18:24
apacheloggeradding bugs manually is not exactly very productive18:24
greg-gapachelogger: +1 !18:26
greg-gI mean, 5-a-day should just be a subset of information which is used for LP Karma18:27
jcastrowhat would be awesome would be if someone used the lp bugs api to make it so we don't need the 5-a-day app at all.18:40
jcastroit should just say "jorge touched this bug and he's in the lp team, bugcount++"18:40
salty-horseanyone else seeing "Unknown media type" warn configuring packages? e.g. "Unknown media type in type 'interface/x-winamp-skin'"18:44
sven__I found an intrepid kubuntu bug for the "resize and rotate display" control pannel, and I wish to see if the bug is arleady in the system but i'm not sure whit package it's in.19:07
greg-gsven__: you can search all the bug reported against Ubuntu (including Kubuntu) by searching here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu19:23
greg-ghey! the "new" bugs part of the pie chart is down to 48%! it was stuck at 49% for what feels like forever19:24
greg-gthe fact that I never see that pie chart might have something to do with that ;)19:25
jjesseis the pie chart on the "main" bug page?19:30
greg-gjjesse: yeah19:32
greg-gfor Ubuntu, of course.19:32
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bdmurraythekorn: what is the unsupported contenttype error about in py-lp-b?19:43
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thekornbdmurray, sorry, which one?21:42
bdmurraythekorn: I think I got it - I was getting an error with a content type of "text/x-log"21:43
bdmurrayso I added that to to the list of allowable content types21:44
thekorn"text/x-log"? - what a strange contenttype21:44
bdmurraythe attachment name ended in ".log"21:44
bdmurrayIts unfortunate the error doesn't say which bug was causing the problem21:47
thekornhmm, It should give you a bugnumber, let me check21:47
thekornbdmurray, oh, I see, it's a bug, but can be fixed easily21:49
thekornwill fix it tomorrow morning21:51
bdmurraygreat, thanks!21:51
thekornbdmurray, as a start, but have to improve it a bit tomorrow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49842/22:10
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chrisccoulsonping maco23:05
mrooneyIs anyone aware of a metabug regarding ath5k_pci CPU usage / poor wireless performance?23:10
Ampelbeinmrooney: i think there is one. sounds familiar.23:11
Ampelbeinbug 267761 is yours?23:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267761 in linux "Wireless on Atheros 5212/5213 drops often, is slow, and ath5k_pci consumes large amounts of CPU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26776123:13
mrooneyAmpelbein: yeah, I was just about to link to it :)23:13
mrooneyI can't figure out if I should be blacklisting something or, what I should be trying, or if other users are experiencing similar things I can't find the dupe23:14
chrisccoulsoni can't find any other performance related bugs for ath5k_pci23:15
Ampelbeinperhaps there is none and i just remembered wrongly23:15
mrooneychrisccoulson: isn't there something I can blacklist to get a different driver?23:16
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure actually23:17
chrisccoulsonhave you tried blacklisting ath5k_pci?23:19
mrooneyI seem to perhaps recall similar bug reports for similar speed issues relating to atheros + intrepid23:19
bdmurraymrooney: is this an upgrade or a fresh install?23:19
mrooneybdmurray: A fresh install of Intrepid Alpha..4 I think23:19
mrooneyoriginally linux 2.6.26, which had the same exact issues23:20
bdmurraymrooney: is there anything configured in /etc/network/interfaces?23:20
mrooneybdmurray: just "auto lo\niface lo inet loopback"23:21
bdmurraymrooney: okay, I'd had similar issues on a system of mine that I haven't had time to investigate23:21
mrooneyahh yes, I believe I did a fresh install of A4, had the issues, then did a fresh install A5 to get a fresh 27 kernel, and have the same issues23:22
mrooneybdmurray: oh, okay, perhaps I am not alone!23:22
mrooneybdmurray: is my interfaces file indicative of an issue?23:22
bdmurraymrooney: I had some configuration in e-n-i that probably was causing my issue23:24
mrooneyoh okay23:24
mrooneyah yes my bug description explains what I did fairly well23:25
mrooneywell, I hope someone knowledgeable takes a look at it or can direct me to the next step23:25
mrooneyotherwise I guess no Intrepid for me23:25
bdmurraythe latest madwifi update in tim's ppa seems to be from sept 5th23:26
bdmurrayso I don't think that would help23:26
bdmurrayath5k phy0: noise floor calibration timeout (2417MHz)23:27
bdmurraythat looks interesting23:27
mrooneybdmurray: oh yeah there are a bunch of things around there23:28
bdmurrayogasawara: can you lend a hand?23:28
mrooneywow, there's so many of them and other "unable to reset..."23:29
bdmurraymrooney: so googling for that message was somewhat helpful23:31
ogasawaramrooney, bdmurray:  I'll take a peek as well23:31
bdmurrayhmm, that's in the intrepid ath5k driver though23:32
mrooneybdmurray: I also found http://madwifi.org/ticket/2083 though I can't tell if those "errors" I see are normal or not, so I don't know if it is logical to find them in other places23:33
mrooneyI'll be right back23:42

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