[10:36] <liw> I'd like to upload a new system-cleaner to fix #271234 and #271390, but they change the UI (command line and GTK both); is the doc team mentioning system-cleaner anywhere and would a new upload be problematic for you?
[20:02] <mdke> liw: no, I don't think so. it's not installed by default. Being in universe it is unlikely to have translations either, afaik, but you shoudl notify both lists anyway as a matter of protocol
[20:08] <liw> mdke, thanks
[20:23] <little> Hey there, anybody active in here?
[20:24] <perlluver> I am active
[20:25] <little> Are you part of the documentation team?
[20:25] <perlluver> I am not sure, I have done some editing, so I think maybe
[20:26] <little> Ah, I was looking to speak to someone who's in charge of it, or in some way part of the decision-making process.
[20:26] <perlluver> ah ok, not me, sorry
[20:26] <little> Ah well, at least you're active. (:
[20:28] <little> The web pages are kind of a jumble of information, and it's tough to tell what's needed most - documentation that's part of the operating systems or wiki documentation. I'm open for either.
[20:29] <perlluver> both the same, they are both equally importnat
[20:30] <little> I guess I'll just go onto the wikis and see what needs to be written up, then.
[20:30] <perlluver> hang on
[20:30] <perlluver> there is a list
[20:31] <perlluver> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryCleanup
[20:31] <perlluver> there you go
[20:31] <little> Thanks! Looking...
[20:35] <little> That looks like a great starting place, thanks!
[20:35] <perlluver> your welcome
[20:35] <perlluver> have fun
[20:36] <little> Will do. I write HOWTO guides and I'm out of material to write right now, so I'm looking for something to do. (:
[20:36] <perlluver> indeed, I have enjoyed it, hope you do too
[20:37] <little> I guess I'm off to change a few things - hopefully for the better. Good luck to you, too! (:
[22:15] <omegamormegil> Is there a help document anywhere that a newbie could read to learn best practice type of stuff?  I'm thinking of things like what to do with a feature request (use brainstorm or report a bug on launchpad), and how to avoid stepping on people's toes.  I know there's lots of information like this scattered around, but perhaps there should be a wiki page providing links to all of it?
[22:23] <charlie-tca> There is a wiki for developers at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home and a wiki for users at
[22:23] <charlie-tca> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[22:24] <charlie-tca> Perhaps a search on one of them would give you answers? I think you could use either brainstorm or bug, your choice
[22:49] <omegamormegil> Thanks for the response, but I'm not seeking answers for myself.  I was just thinking that a page on the wiki that consolidated this kind of information for new users could be useful.  I remember when I first started using Ubuntu that I didn't understand how anything worked, and I didn't really know what launchpad was for, and I didn't know if I should be editing the wiki, etc.  I'm talking about a primer.  Along the lin
[22:49] <omegamormegil> es of the Glossary at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Glossary, but more readable.  I don't expect people to sit down and read the glossary.
[22:50] <omegamormegil> I was thinking of considering working on something like this, but I didn't know if it already existed, and I wasn't sure if I should just jump in and start typing.
[22:55] <mdke> omegamormegil: help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions?
[22:56] <mdke> omegamormegil: or, if you are talking about contributing to Ubuntu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributingToUbuntu
[22:58]  * mdke goes to bed