[05:08] <boredandblogging> if anyone is interested in supporting http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/13577/
[05:08] <boredandblogging> would appreciate it
[17:48] <AliTabuger7> hello?
[17:49] <shahriar086> hey :)
[17:49] <AliTabuger7> how are you shahriar?
[17:49] <shahriar086> doing so so (till now)
[17:49] <AliTabuger7> I just got a really good rough cut of the SU homepage working: http://spreadubuntu.houbsi.org/
[17:49] <AliTabuger7> what do you mean till now?
[17:49] <AliTabuger7> better now or worse now?
[17:50] <shahriar086> does not matter :)
[17:50] <AliTabuger7> ok. maybe that homepage will make you feel better :D
[17:50] <shahriar086> wow its up :D
[17:51] <AliTabuger7> I did all of that without FTP access in like an hour. imagine what'll happen when they give me FTP and a month
[17:51] <shahriar086> yes I can immagine :)
[17:51] <AliTabuger7> again, it's all a rough cut right now. the icons, and background colors will be refined later
[17:52] <shahriar086> yes I understand
[17:52] <shahriar086> its just a preview
[17:52] <AliTabuger7> Actually, that would be a really easy way for you to help. If you use ubuntu, sort through the /usr/share/icons and see if you can find a bunch of icons that would fit the placeholders
[17:52] <shahriar086> what was in the sketch is now in real term form :)
[17:53] <AliTabuger7> the "we recommend" etc is not functional yet
[17:53] <AliTabuger7> neither are any of the links
[17:53] <shahriar086> yes checked already :P
[17:54] <shahriar086> looks good and sure it will be lot better :)
[17:54] <AliTabuger7> i'm not happy with the "share" icon, but it is a gnome one so i think it's more relevent than a lot of them.
[17:54] <AliTabuger7> You could also help me find an icon for posters, brochurs, videos, tshirts, stickers, and site buttons
[17:56] <shahriar086> well is there any reason to use gnome or kde ?
[17:56] <shahriar086> the idea is to support ubuntu (that also includes kubuntu xubuntu & others right?)
[17:56] <AliTabuger7> gnome/tango/human are all gnu so they won't sue us (human wouldn't anyway probably)
[17:57] <shahriar086> ohh that's a point
[17:57] <AliTabuger7> well its an U buntu site
[17:57] <AliTabuger7> although other gnu icons would work too
[17:57] <shahriar086> :)
[17:57] <AliTabuger7> the current theme is brown and orange and stuff
[17:57] <shahriar086> ok I will look into it
[17:57] <AliTabuger7> so Human icons are actually designed to fit the color scheme
[17:57] <shahriar086> humm I was thinking of green :P
[17:57] <shahriar086> no problem any color will work :)
[17:58] <AliTabuger7> I still have yet to use green in a site i've made
[17:58] <shahriar086> :)
[17:58] <AliTabuger7> people always say i need green, which makes sense on a color wheel, but i never like it
[17:58] <shahriar086> I imagined get (download) Icon to be green.
[17:59] <shahriar086> it does not matter actually which color we use
[17:59] <shahriar086> but to me all ubuntu sites are boring (in terms of color schime, same color )
[17:59] <AliTabuger7> yeah, usually sites stick to 2 colors not including black and white
[17:59] <AliTabuger7> sometime just 1
[18:00] <shahriar086> yes makes it less annoying to the eyes
[18:00] <AliTabuger7> i actually really have to get going to class now
[18:00] <AliTabuger7> bb in a couple hours
[18:00] <shahriar086> I mean I would not like a colorful site with colors bumping everywher
[18:00] <shahriar086> ok have a nice day
[18:03] <AliTabuger7> thanks ttyl
[19:48] <AliTabuger7> i'm back now
[19:49] <shahriar086> welcome back :)
[19:50] <AliTabuger7> hello?
[19:51] <shahriar086> hey welcome back :)
[19:53] <AliTabuger7> hi
[19:53] <AliTabuger7> anything go on while i was gone?
[19:53] <shahriar086> nothing new
[19:54] <AliTabuger7> I kind of expect the activity to pick up as people get excited about finally seeing something done. so far most of the work has been backend stuff, i think.
[19:55] <shahriar086> :)
[19:55] <shahriar086> yes it sure helps to see work in progress :)
[19:59] <shahriar086> hi hubuntu
[20:00] <shahriar086> did you see the homepage? (though not fully functional)
[20:00] <hubuntu> hi shahriar086 
[20:00] <hubuntu> I saw it yesterday
[20:00] <shahriar086> ok :)
[20:00] <hubuntu> nice!
[20:00] <shahriar086> Yes. will be nicer :)
[20:00] <hubuntu> cool
[20:00] <hubuntu> that was really a nice surprise :)
[20:01] <shahriar086> :) Yes
[20:01] <AliTabuger7> Did you see it recently hubuntu? I added a newer homepage section, not just the links at the left.
[20:02] <hubuntu> I saw it right now
[20:03] <AliTabuger7> I'm not happy with the way the boxes at the right are themed. I also am displeased with something about the way the icons at the left look but haven't figured it out yet. I also know that I have to find some good Human icons for the hotlinks below the homepage
[20:04] <AliTabuger7> anything you noticed?
[20:04] <hubuntu> I am looking at the menues at the right and it might be an idea to not have them
[20:04] <hubuntu> I mean, I have some resolution problems in ubuntu.ec regarding the right panel in drupal
[20:04] <AliTabuger7> the "create content" ones?
[20:05] <hubuntu> no, the We recommend
[20:05] <AliTabuger7> Ah. Yes that is certainly an option. Right now they don't really look anything like what I had hoped
[20:05] <hubuntu> it depends on how "static" it is related to the middle
[20:06] <shahriar086> humm hubuntu if it gets broken then not needed, but the idea is just perfect, easy access to toprated (or sponsored if any) material
[20:06] <AliTabuger7> The biggest difference is that there shouldn't be really much of any text in there, just thumbnails
[20:06] <hubuntu> the idea is great, yes
[20:06] <hubuntu> we can just make a fixed position for it anyway
[20:08] <AliTabuger7> A few things I'm thinking specifically about the right panel: It should be higher up. This is a restriction because i have two titles, I need to merge the "home" and the about.  I need to theme them better, with less bold colors and roudned corners.   I need icons in it to make it look like it is supposed to.   It could actually be narrower - it might be a little too wide and taking up too much space
[20:09] <hubuntu> it seems though you know your way around theming drupal which is perfect :)
[20:10] <AliTabuger7> I will be needing some kind of way to edit files eventually, but I can do a lot without it. The left thing is just a block, and the homepage is just a node with some fancy html/css
[20:11] <AliTabuger7> For example, I had to host the icons on my site because I couldn't upload them to the houbsi theme directory. I will also need to be able to edit the node.tpl.php to theme the materials
[20:12] <AliTabuger7> I have one concern about future progress. What is the plan on how we are going to get thumbnails?
[20:14] <shahriar086> that means technically? AliTabuger7 ?
[20:15] <AliTabuger7> Well in order to be able to display those small images, we need the website to be able to automatically convert the files uploaded into small 100x100px pngs. This may be extremely difficult with documents, pdf's, svg's, etc since they aren't image files.
[20:17] <AliTabuger7> that's probably more of a question for hubuntu or flannel
[20:17] <shahriar086> humm for documents & pdfs can we ask contributors to make a coverpage and give image of them?
[20:18] <shahriar086> like book stores show book coverpage, and when we click the image of coverpage shows few pages of the book or the description
[20:18] <shahriar086> I am not sure whether that is the right method
[20:18] <AliTabuger7> Thats the only thing that I could think of. I'd imagine that that way would either get annoying or a lot of people will not put up a cover image.
[20:19] <shahriar086> Yes that will happen
[20:19] <AliTabuger7> well flannel is already doing some really fancy stuff with the backend, and its a linux server, and well all know theres nothing linux can't do. so there must be some automated way to snag that image.
[20:20] <shahriar086> Hummm
[20:20] <hubuntu> AliTabuger7, I will give you access to a FTP site
[20:20] <shahriar086> I think its tough lets see what the experts do
[20:20] <hubuntu> do you have ftp access to houbsi?
[20:21] <AliTabuger7> No. I did all that theming through drupal's interface, which I do have admin access to.
[20:21] <hubuntu> ok
[20:21] <hubuntu> let me do some magic here then
[20:39] <AliTabuger7> Now before I go changing too many things like adding the views module. I'd like to understand how exctly this bazaar/database backend flannel is working on interacts with drupal.
[20:39] <hubuntu> ok... I will give you access to a Drupal 5 and 6 installation in my server
[20:39] <hubuntu> that way we have full access and control
[20:39] <AliTabuger7> huh?
[20:39] <hubuntu> please use sftp when accessing the site
[20:40] <AliTabuger7> ok. is nautilus ok for that?
[20:40] <hubuntu> that way we don't have to wait for pep, since he's very busy at the time
[20:40]  * shahriar086 thought magic is supposed to work like abracadabra and puff :P
[20:40] <hubuntu> yeah, nautilus is great for that
[20:40] <hubuntu> I'm just installing drupal 5 and 6
[20:40] <AliTabuger7> I see
[20:40] <hubuntu> and will give ytou access when I'm done
[20:41] <hubuntu> mind that it is my own server and it host other servers, so please be careful :)
[20:41] <AliTabuger7> I actually set up a really pathetic install to test out that theme i read about in the mailing list
[20:41] <AliTabuger7> the only things i'll be chanigng or putting up there is php, css, and html, and the worst that'd do is ruin your version of the website
[20:42] <hubuntu> it's cool
[20:43] <AliTabuger7> If it makes you feel any more comfortable i'm almost 100% unfamiliar with actual scripting. The only reason I can do the php stuff is cuz they have snippets on drupal.
[20:45] <AliTabuger7> hubuntu, what were your thoughts on the thumbnail generation?
[20:47] <AliTabuger7> Actually hubuntu, you don't even really have to give me ftp access to your site. I'm more than capable of setting up a localhost here. You could just upload the current site to bzr and i could make changes there
[20:47] <hubuntu> I want to be able to see it, but I believe it is a good idea and it shouldn't be such a big deal
[20:47] <hubuntu> php can do that kind of magic relatively easy
[20:47] <hubuntu> No, I want an online site, really it is a lot easier and then I can sync it with bzr from my server
[20:48] <AliTabuger7> yeah but i thought they usually used imagemagick which only does image files, but I'll leave that sort of stuff up to you. I'm no good with the programming stuff.
[20:48] <hubuntu> neither am I, but there are ways
[20:48] <AliTabuger7> do you think flannel would know?
[20:51] <hubuntu> I believe he would, yeah
[20:51] <AliTabuger7> I just though cuz he's doing something with python, which of all things must be able to handle this, I believe.
[20:55] <AliTabuger7> So do you want to do the bazaar instead of ftp? You wanted to get a branch up anyway
[20:55] <hubuntu> I give you access to my server with SFTP and then I will sync the directory with bzr
[20:56] <AliTabuger7> Ok. That makes things a little easier for me. Thanks.
[20:56] <hubuntu> then We will have  branch which is public in both senses (as a site and its code)
[20:56] <AliTabuger7> How are you going to sync the database? thats equally as important as the files in most cases
[20:56] <hubuntu> yes, I will have to make a sync every 24 hours or something
[20:57] <hubuntu> I'll find out about that
[20:57] <AliTabuger7> the database file too? thats in a very different directory i think
[20:57] <hubuntu> yes, that would be in a different directory indeed
[20:58] <AliTabuger7> how does the ubuntu drupal package do it?
[20:58] <AliTabuger7> the .deb for installing drupal i think includes a database in it. they must have a place they put the db in bazaar on launchpad
[21:03] <hubuntu> yeah, I'm using a tar file from drupal.org
[21:04] <hubuntu> I have already used the drupal apt installation in another site
[21:04] <AliTabuger7> thats what I always do. i'm just saying there must be a way to put a db in launchpad
[21:11] <hubuntu> yeah, I will figure that out
[21:11] <hubuntu> ;)
[21:57] <hubuntu> ok AliTabuger7 I got both install up and running
[21:57] <hubuntu> I send you an email with login info
[22:07] <hubuntu> now you have full right to the site AliTabuger7
[22:08] <hubuntu> Flannel and shahriar086: Tell me if you need access to the server and I will fix your access
[22:08] <shahriar086> hubuntu: right now I don't need it, thanks
[22:09] <shahriar086> I am not a technical person.
[22:09] <hubuntu> the server can be seen at http://ubuntu.ec/su
[22:09] <hubuntu> JIC ;)
[22:09] <hubuntu> ok I'm off
[22:09] <shahriar086> if needed I will ask for it. (though I thought I was suppsed to work in relation with you)
[22:09] <hubuntu> good night everyone
[22:09] <shahriar086> good night
[22:09] <shahriar086> I am also going off
[22:10]  * shahriar086 is leaving goodnight & day to all
[22:10] <hubuntu> shahriar086, we are to work together
[22:10] <shahriar086> yes hubuntu :)
[22:10] <hubuntu> but we need the DB structure up first
[22:10] <shahriar086> yes That what I thought
[22:10] <hubuntu> Flannel will come up with that
[22:10] <shahriar086> yes heard of it
[22:10] <hubuntu> and then W
[22:10] <shahriar086> yes... waiting for that :)
[22:11] <hubuntu> we will work populating the DB
[22:11] <hubuntu> which is a huge job
[22:11] <shahriar086> Yes. we will start with old diy?
[22:11] <shahriar086> or will communicate with the locos?
[22:11] <hubuntu> we'll have too see about that
[22:11] <shahriar086> ok
[22:11] <hubuntu> I reckon we will rather just upload material we see lying around the Ubuntu Wiki
[22:12] <shahriar086> ok
[22:12] <hubuntu> we will populate the DB first, test how it works
[22:12] <hubuntu> and when we are done with that we will talk to LoCos and stuff
[22:12] <hubuntu> good night shahriar086 
[22:12] <hubuntu> :)
[22:12] <shahriar086> ok no problem
[22:12] <shahriar086> good night to you too :)
[22:12] <shahriar086> finally leaving
[22:48] <AliTabuger7> hi everybody!