| fabrice_sp | Hi. I've been working on Bug #272263, and I get a working package. My question is: should I change the binary name from icedove-dispmua to thunderbird-dispmua? | 04:27 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272263 in icedove-dispmua "icedove-dispmua: Package has a Depends on icedove (<= 2.0.0.99) which cannot be satisfied in Intrepid" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272263 | 04:27 |
| fabrice_sp | Or because of license issue, I should wait? | 04:30 |
| fabrice_sp | the same happen with icedove-nostalgy | 04:30 |
| XioNoX | hi! | 07:22 |
| gnomefreak | anyone running KDE with grub splash defined in /boot/grub? it should be the firsst few lines | 11:43 |
| asac | nope :) | 11:44 |
| armin76 | asac: you broke mozilla's infra | 12:18 |
| asac | armin76: me? | 12:19 |
| asac | armin76: how that? | 12:19 |
| armin76 | ftp.mozilla.org doesn't work | 12:21 |
| armin76 | and mozilla.org gives 501, although www.moz works | 12:21 |
| asac | armin76: good ;) | 12:21 |
| asac | i succeeded in pushing back the release :-D | 12:21 |
| asac | jk | 12:22 |
| === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo | ||
| asac | fta: could you push nss.head and nspr.dev to your PPA? | 12:23 |
| asac | i would love to get broader testing on whether the soname migration really doesnt cause any regressions | 12:23 |
| asac | (even without respinnning) | 12:23 |
| armin76 | is 3.0.2 going to be released today? | 12:24 |
| asac | fta: actually i was confused again by the branches ;) ... so i ended up doing things in nspr.dev ... and nss.head | 12:24 |
| asac | armin76: i think so | 12:25 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i finished testing linkwidgets this morning so far no problems with it. so now all 4 are done and ready | 12:31 |
| * gnomefreak goes to look for another one | 12:31 | |
| asac | ok ... i posted 522th comment now ;) ... hopefull we wont reach 550 on that bug soon :) | 12:42 |
| asac | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17877769/firstrun.png | 12:43 |
| asac | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17877774/about_rights.png | 12:43 |
| asac | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17877776/about_rights_expanded.png | 12:43 |
| asac | those most likely are the versions that will go on \o/ | 12:43 |
| gnomefreak | asac: are these separate tabs? | 12:46 |
| asac | he? | 12:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: if you click on the "Know Your Rights ..." button | 12:46 |
| asac | it will open about_rights.png | 12:46 |
| asac | when you click on the title at the bottom it will expand to the about_rights_expanded.png | 12:47 |
| gnomefreak | ah i see i missed the first one | 12:47 |
| gnomefreak | asac: good job maybe now once pushed that bug can be closed | 12:47 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yeah. i marked it "fix committed" ;) | 12:47 |
| asac | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/269656/comments/522 | 12:47 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 269656 in ubufox "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,Fix committed] | 12:48 |
| gnomefreak | yay finally spreadsheat bullshit and $HOME is cleaned up and organized | 12:51 |
| * gnomefreak smoke | 12:51 | |
| gnomefreak | im gonna end up rebooting (kernel upgrade | 13:02 |
| gnomefreak | ) and breakfast ;) | 13:02 |
| XioNoX | hi! | 13:16 |
| asac | hi XioNoX | 13:25 |
| XioNoX | Hi asac! | 13:25 |
| asac | [reed]: http://mozilla.com/ ... is that intentional that nothing happens ;)? | 13:26 |
| asac | http://mozilla.org/ | 13:26 |
| XioNoX | I'm at school, i have a very bad connexion outside the school | 13:26 |
| asac | XioNoX: how that? | 13:26 |
| XioNoX | I use a wifi bridge between 2 buildings with a low signal | 13:27 |
| XioNoX | so i have frequent deconexions | 13:28 |
| XioNoX | the MAOW was cool, and very interesting :) | 13:30 |
| XioNoX | asac, I've discover FUEL :) | 13:32 |
| asac | nice ;) | 13:32 |
| XioNoX | What is new on your side ? | 13:33 |
| XioNoX | asac, What happend with mozilla.org ? | 13:35 |
| XioNoX | I can't connect to irc too | 13:36 |
| asac | realy? | 13:39 |
| asac | hmm ... strange | 13:39 |
| asac | XioNoX: new on my side? not much except the infamous EULA bug ;) | 13:39 |
| XioNoX | Yeah, we can't miss it :D | 13:42 |
| XioNoX | where does it come from ? | 13:42 |
| dholbert | [reed]: ping? | 13:45 |
| dholbert | all mozilla.org & mozilla.com servers seem to be down :( | 13:50 |
| XioNoX | dholbert, I agree, even the irc server | 13:51 |
| XioNoX | I think reed is busy :D | 13:51 |
| dholbert | XioNoX: yup :-/ and bugzilla | 13:51 |
| XioNoX | i have to go | 13:51 |
| XioNoX | see you | 13:51 |
| dholbert | seeya | 13:51 |
| asac | cu XioNoX | 13:51 |
| dholbert | and people.mozilla.org, and the mail server, and hg.mozilla.org for source code... | 13:51 |
| asac | ouch | 13:52 |
| dholbert | and tinderbox | 13:52 |
| asac | sounds more like a complete network down issue :) | 13:52 |
| dholbert | yeah :) | 13:52 |
| asac | router bustage ;) | 13:52 |
| dholbert | I came in to the office early to get some work done, but now I'm wishing I'd stayed home | 13:52 |
| dholbert | wish I knew which closet to open & which router to reboot :) | 13:52 |
| asac | i know what you mean :-D | 13:52 |
| asac | dholbert: so its even down from within the office? is all this co-located? | 13:53 |
| * dholbert shuts down power to entire Mozilla offices & then turns it on again, to reboot everything | 13:53 | |
| dholbert | Good point, yeah | 13:53 |
| dholbert | Most of the servers are elsewhere | 13:53 |
| dholbert | lol no way to report the problem... methods would be (a) IRC -- down. (b) bugzilla - down. (c) look up an IT person's phone number -- but our phonebook page is down | 13:54 |
| asac | maybe the whistler truck finally made it to your place :-P | 13:54 |
| dholbert | darn those microsofties and their rogue laundry trucks! | 13:54 |
| dholbert | oh well. Maybe I'll install intrepid on my laptop instead of working, then. :) | 13:55 |
| asac | at least you still have general internet | 13:55 |
| asac | that helps in getting distraction | 13:55 |
| dholbert | Yeah, totally | 13:55 |
| dholbert | though, if I had no internet here but Mozilla stuff was up elsewhere | 13:56 |
| dholbert | I could at least go home and get stuff done there :) | 13:56 |
| asac | @time los_angeles | 13:56 |
| ubottu | Current time in America/Los_Angeles: September 23 2008, 05:56:52 - Next meeting: QA Team in 1 day | 13:56 |
| dholbert | ooh, snazzy | 13:57 |
| asac | hmm ... 1 hour to go until release team notices that something is wrong ;) | 13:57 |
| dholbert | which release team? | 13:57 |
| asac | mozilla | 13:57 |
| dholbert | from nightlies failing, you mean? | 13:57 |
| dholbert | or from when joduinn wakes up? :) | 13:58 |
| asac | dholbert: no ... today there was a release from what i heard ;) | 13:58 |
| dholbert | Ah, righto | 13:58 |
| gnomefreak | do we not have a meeting date and time for next one? | 14:11 |
| gnomefreak | foxmarks isnt gonna happen for a while most likely during next dev cycle | 14:15 |
| asac | gnomefreak: we dont? i thougth we have meetings scheduled for at least the rest of the year | 14:16 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i was reading the topic | 14:16 |
| asac | ah | 14:16 |
| gnomefreak | it says TBA | 14:16 |
| asac | hmm | 14:16 |
| asac | yeah. i think we scheduled them already | 14:17 |
| asac | volans can probably tell more | 14:17 |
| asac | (when he is back) | 14:17 |
| gnomefreak | im cc'ing the foxmarks emails to mailing list. | 14:18 |
| asac | gnomefreak: good | 14:18 |
| gnomefreak | son of a bitch i did email him already about this. | 14:23 |
| gnomefreak | asac: any reason we dont accept Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license for extensions? | 14:25 |
| gnomefreak | and what is DFSG? | 14:26 |
| asac | hehe | 14:28 |
| asac | gnomefreak: not sure | 14:29 |
| asac | where is that license? | 14:29 |
| asac | DFSG - Debian Free Software Guidlines --> which define tests to check for freeness of a license | 14:29 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i think http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ should be fine | 14:30 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i dont have a link for it | 14:32 |
| gnomefreak | asac: ill read it but either way there is no license in foxmarks no matter how much i wish it was there | 14:32 |
| asac | ok | 14:33 |
| fta2 | yop | 14:34 |
| asac | i am preparing for lunchy now ;) | 14:34 |
| asac | urgh | 14:36 |
| asac | http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/22/serious-e1000e-driver-issue-in-sle-11-beta-1-and-opensuse-111-beta-1/ | 14:36 |
| asac | seems we have that issue too here :/ | 14:36 |
| asac | "The Intel e1000e driver on openSUSE 11.1 Beta 1 and SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 Beta 1 might have a serious issue with the potential to damage the network card in a way that it cannot be used any longer." | 14:36 |
| gnomefreak | who thinks this email looks like spam? mx167-86-voicenet.voicenet.com ([207.103.167.86] | 14:47 |
| gnomefreak | it had subject "how to block websites in firefox" | 14:47 |
| gnomefreak | were not packaging themes for FF3 are we? | 15:06 |
| * gnomefreak likes Chomifox | 15:06 | |
| asac | gnomefreak: i dont see an urgent need for packaged themese, but I i dont think there is anything against doing that | 15:11 |
| gnomefreak | i agree its not urgent but i think we should concider it for intrepid+1 (something that starts with a j) | 15:12 |
| gnomefreak | http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=24003 | 15:12 |
| gnomefreak | this is interesting http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/07/13/please-insert-25-cents-to-login/ | 15:18 |
| gnomefreak | brb im gonna see what it does | 15:19 |
| asac | bug 272305 | 15:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272305 in network-manager "NM 0.7: applet does not react if "Auto GSM network connection" is selected too fast" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272305 | 15:34 |
| * gnomefreak goes to lay down i slept less than 2 hours last night. | 15:35 | |
| asac | gnomefreak: get some rest | 15:35 |
| asac | cu later | 15:35 |
| gnomefreak | im gonna try ill see you when i get up | 15:36 |
| asac | [reed]: help :( ... i cannot verify the final advisories and the bugs we have fixed :( | 15:45 |
| asac | [reed]: bz is up again. thanks a bunch | 15:49 |
| dholbert | woot, bugzilla is indeed back up | 15:52 |
| dholbert | though mozilla irc still seems to be down... | 15:53 |
| asac | dholbert: err ... i am online on mozilla irc | 15:55 |
| dholbert | asac: rly? xchat thinks it's been retrying & timing out repeatedly for a while | 15:55 |
| dholbert | maybe it's got the wrong IP cached | 15:55 |
| dholbert | asac: what IP do you get when you ping irc.mozilla.org ? | 16:05 |
| dholbert | asac: I get 63.245.212.23 , which I can't traceroute to :( | 16:05 |
| asac | dholbert: 63.245.212.23 ... so the same | 16:07 |
| asac | but i am definitly connected and there is "noise" in the channel | 16:07 |
| dholbert | k, thanks. Interesting | 16:07 |
| asac | fta: tbird 3.0 + enigmail ? | 17:37 |
| fta2 | ? | 17:37 |
| asac | fta: we dont have an engimail for 3.0 yet right? | 17:38 |
| fta2 | i remember gnomefreak had issues with it months ago, i don't know if it's still there | 17:39 |
| XioNoX | back! | 17:47 |
| asac | yay | 17:49 |
| XioNoX | asac, what happened to the mozilla serveurs ? | 17:50 |
| asac | XioNoX: apparently power outage at colo | 17:50 |
| asac | but thats just a 3rd hand info ;) | 17:50 |
| XioNoX | ok | 17:50 |
| XioNoX | asac, so how it is going for intrepid ? | 17:52 |
| asac | XioNoX: i lack behind in all areas :) | 17:54 |
| XioNoX | can you add a little feature in nm-apelet before intrepid is released ? :D | 17:55 |
| XioNoX | hehe | 17:55 |
| sebner | asac: now the flash fix made it into the archive, right? :) | 17:55 |
| asac | XioNoX: which feature do you want? | 17:57 |
| asac | sebner: which flash fix? | 17:57 |
| XioNoX | add a refresh button in the wireless network list | 17:58 |
| sebner | asac: pulseaudio ;) | 17:59 |
| XioNoX | so what could I do now, witch is not too time consuming ? | 17:59 |
| asac | sebner: yeah \o/ | 18:09 |
| asac | XioNoX: hmm | 18:09 |
| asac | XioNoX: you could special case a bunch of plugin names in ubufox depending on the filename | 18:10 |
| asac | XioNoX: e.g. libgnash*so should show up as Gnash SWF Player | 18:11 |
| sebner | asac: \o'/ | 18:11 |
| asac | XioNoX: e.g. libswfdec*.so should show up as Swfdec SWF Player | 18:11 |
| asac | and libflashsupport or npviewer.flash... should show up as Adobe Flash SWF Player | 18:11 |
| XioNoX | ok | 18:12 |
| asac | XioNoX: be sure that you start with current main HEAD | 18:12 |
| asac | XioNoX: that should be quite a simple task i hope ;) | 18:13 |
| XioNoX | I think too | 18:13 |
| asac | XioNoX: also, we still want to add a menu entry that will start the plugin finder wizard for the mime-type in the alternative wizard | 18:14 |
| XioNoX | asac, this one : https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/ubufox/main ? | 18:15 |
| asac | yeah or simply lp:ubufox | 18:15 |
| XioNoX | ok | 18:16 |
| XioNoX | asac, I don't see anything on intrepid when I go to a webpage with flash content | 18:23 |
| asac | sure that correct ubufox isi installedß | 18:25 |
| asac | XioNoX: if you dont have flash installed it wont work afaicr | 18:26 |
| asac | "dont have any flash installed" i mean | 18:26 |
| XioNoX | asac, 0.6~b1 ? | 18:29 |
| asac | XioNoX: yeah | 18:33 |
| asac | i think so | 18:33 |
| XioNoX | nothing... | 18:33 |
| asac | XioNoX: any other extension installed? | 18:33 |
| XioNoX | nop | 18:34 |
| asac | XioNoX: maybe a special site .. works here on youtbue at leat | 18:34 |
| XioNoX | t45ol.com | 18:35 |
| asac | works | 18:35 |
| XioNoX | not for me | 18:35 |
| asac | XioNoX: is the "manauge content plugins" menu entry visible in tools menu? | 18:36 |
| XioNoX | even on youtube | 18:36 |
| XioNoX | no | 18:36 |
| asac | XioNoX: then you havent installed it properly | 18:36 |
| asac | the menu will always appear beacuse its a simple mechanism | 18:36 |
| asac | XioNoX: rev 115 is the branch revision | 18:36 |
| XioNoX | i install updates of the week and I check | 18:37 |
| fabrice_sp_ | Hi. Any opinion about Bug #272263, and my proposal to rename binary package to thunderbird-dispmua (apart from correcting dependency from icedove to thunderbird)? | 19:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272263 in icedove-dispmua "icedove-dispmua: Package has a Depends on icedove (<= 2.0.0.99) which cannot be satisfied in Intrepid" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272263 | 19:06 |
| XioNoX | asac, how can I check the branch revision ? | 19:39 |
| XioNoX | of ubufox, because even with updates I got nothing | 19:40 |
| XioNoX | I'm upgrading my main/production ubuntu to Intrepid | 19:40 |
| XioNoX | I home it is stable enough | 19:40 |
| asac | XioNoX: bzr log |head | 19:42 |
| XioNoX | asac, I'm using the deb version of ubufox | 19:45 |
| asac | XioNoX: dont know. the menu should show up. maybe you have still an old ubufox in your profile or something :/ | 20:04 |
| asac | anyone else here has ubufox installed and could verfiy that the TOols -> Manage Content Plugins menu entry exists? | 20:05 |
| fta | asac, i see you took care about nss, thanks, i totally forgot about it | 20:21 |
| asac | fta: well. i had this soname thing on my plate | 20:22 |
| fta | asac, btw, what happened with the symbols files? the diff looks huge | 20:22 |
| asac | fta: would be nice if you oculd test it | 20:22 |
| asac | fta: yeah. i bumped all versions to current package versoin | 20:22 |
| asac | to reflect that the soname changed | 20:22 |
| fta | hm, i see. ok | 20:22 |
| asac | fta: also in nss.head there was some cruft for the libs that were copied to /usr/lib | 20:22 |
| asac | fta: like freebl.so and so on | 20:23 |
| asac | fta: i should have committed in multiple steps to make those diffs more readable ... i agree | 20:23 |
| fta | upstream changes a few things in nss yesterday, kind of reorg | 20:23 |
| fta | changed | 20:23 |
| asac | fta: in HEAD? | 20:23 |
| fta | yes | 20:23 |
| fta | got that from my bonsai feed | 20:24 |
| asac | nspr is also transitioned on .dev branch | 20:24 |
| asac | we have to think about nspr.head ... not sure if that was supposed to be still active | 20:24 |
| asac | i think with both we should be 100% upstream compatible again | 20:25 |
| asac | i have to resurrect my fedora though to test if our binaries really run on their system | 20:25 |
| asac | but that can take at least a week | 20:26 |
| === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp | ||
| fta | ok | 20:29 |
| fta | asac, now that ff3.0 is out, can i update & push 3.1 to intrepid ? | 20:29 |
| fta | i mean, to universe | 20:29 |
| asac | 3.0 isnt out yet :) | 20:29 |
| asac | or is it? | 20:29 |
| fta | it's not ? i saw your changelog closing it !? | 20:30 |
| asac | yeah | 20:30 |
| asac | but not yet officially | 20:30 |
| asac | i am waiting for them to pull the trigger ;) | 20:30 |
| fta | not pushed yet or waiting in a queue ? | 20:30 |
| asac | fta: upstream hasnt announed it ... we cannot go ahead until they publish their security advisories | 20:31 |
| fta | oh, i saw xul, not ff | 20:31 |
| fta | build6 | 20:31 |
| asac | fta: i uploaded xul ... figuring that that wont cause less confusion | 20:32 |
| asac | err would | 20:32 |
| fta | i was just waiting for a closed changelog to re-sync 1.9.1/3.1 | 20:32 |
| asac | fta: i think ffox 3.0.2 is closed | 20:32 |
| asac | fta: you can merge up | 20:32 |
| fta | ok | 20:33 |
| fta | great | 20:33 |
| asac | i will try to file a bug for 3.1 and subscribe motu-release too ... explaining the idea of 1.9.1 | 20:33 |
| asac | fta: but later ... have to do something for 2 hours now ;) | 20:33 |
| fta | ok, i still have to resync all my branches then merge, take your time | 20:34 |
| fta | asac, i will then comment on the bug to explain the changes i made, and why i made them | 20:36 |
| mdke | asac: I don't suppose you've had any luck looking at ubuntu-docs yet? if you have any questions on how the package is laid out, please give me a shout! | 21:01 |
| === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp | ||
| fta_ | asac, jcastro: just spent some time reading brainstorm, it seems to me that half of the ideas (if not more) are in fact wish bugs that should go upstream. i don't see what ubuntu could do for those except dragging developers to work into this.. and i'm afraid devs are not that many in our community, and the ones that are *and* that are willing to help have already their hands full. | 22:13 |
| fta_ | Am i wrong? | 22:13 |
| jcastro | fta_: what I try to do is to encourage people to tag them | 22:14 |
| jcastro | so like "amarok" or whatever | 22:14 |
| jcastro | and then point it out to upstreams if they want to follow along | 22:14 |
| fta_ | 13178 ideas, 62636 comments, 1240670 votes seems a lot | 22:17 |
| asac | jcastro: why was http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/525/ closed? | 22:40 |
| asac | (i see the comment, but dont understand why it should be closed because of that) | 22:41 |
| jcastro | should I reopen it? | 22:41 |
| jcastro | I don't mind one way or the other | 22:42 |
| asac | jcastro: just want to understand if there is a rule or something | 22:44 |
| asac | jcastro: i think suggestions about default apps are valid ... even if we disagree now | 22:44 |
| jcastro | not really it's just one big pile | 22:44 |
| jcastro | fair enough | 22:44 |
| asac | @time los_angeles | 22:51 |
| ubottu | Current time in America/Los_Angeles: September 23 2008, 14:51:55 - Next meeting: QA Team in 19 hours 8 minutes | 22:51 |
| fta_ | should we do something for http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/280/ or stick to upstream choices ? | 23:27 |
| asac | fta_: that surely has a mozilla bug with excessive coverage | 23:28 |
| asac | at least i remember that upstream discussed this for 3.0 and planned to revisit it for 3.1 | 23:29 |
| asac | fta_: you showed me this 3D thing once ... what was that? | 23:29 |
| fta_ | which 3D thing ? | 23:30 |
| fta_ | a screenshot with 2 windows ? | 23:30 |
| === fta_ is now known as fta | ||
| asac | it was an animated gif | 23:30 |
| fta | that's the new -moz-transform css tag | 23:31 |
| fta | <iframe style="width:500px; height:500px; -moz-transform:translate(100px, 50px) rotate(30deg) skew(20deg);" src="http://google.com"></iframe> | 23:31 |
| fta | <iframe style="width:500px; height:500px; -moz-transform:translate(50px, 80px) rotate(-50deg) skew(-20deg); -moz-opacity:.70;" src="http://wikipedia.org"></iframe> | 23:31 |
| asac | yeah thats definitly awesome :) | 23:33 |
| asac | but too slow | 23:33 |
| fta | but it's not 3D, just distorted 2D :) | 23:34 |
| asac | yeah | 23:34 |
| asac | too bad | 23:34 |
| fta | there's a 3D patch iirc, vlad has/had a branch | 23:35 |
| fta | http://hg.mozilla.org/users/vladimir_mozilla.com/canvas3d/ | 23:35 |
| asac | fta: thats what i thought when you showed it to me | 23:35 |
| fta | last changeWed, 28 May 2008 14:25:15 -0700 | 23:35 |
| fta | grrr | 23:38 |
| fta | -+ the right to distribute your modified versions. $ | 23:38 |
| fta | ++ the right to distribute your modified versions.$ | 23:38 |
| fta | lp269656_know_your_rights.patch | 23:38 |
| asac | grr? | 23:39 |
| fta | merging, fixing diverged, got trailing spaces | 23:40 |
| fta | mozilla usually rejects patches for that ;) | 23:40 |
| fta | asac, did you have time for the ff3.1 bug? | 23:42 |
| fta | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/4191/ | 23:57 |
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