| bizzle | hello all | 01:04 |
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| bizzle | question | 01:04 |
| bizzle | I am having trouble getting my 2 ATI cards to be recognized. | 01:04 |
| bizzle | ATI X1300 PCI-E works. The ATI X1300 PCI is not recognized by the ATI control pannel. | 01:05 |
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| philsf | can someone please shed some light in question #44557, or maybe help me input some debugging information about it? https://answers.launchpad.net/seahorse/+question/44557 | 07:43 |
| philsf | what I really want to know now is: should this question be turned into a bug? | 07:44 |
| Burgundavia | philsf: I don't see a way in the preferences | 08:00 |
| Burgundavia | philsf: seahorse --> agent --> cache_display is likely the gconf key that needs to be checked | 08:01 |
| philsf | Burgundavia: me neither. I'm clueless about it | 08:01 |
| philsf | checking | 08:01 |
| philsf | it's checked, for me | 08:02 |
| Burgundavia | it is not checked for me | 08:03 |
| Burgundavia | this is a dapper-->hardy box | 08:03 |
| philsf | unchecking and rechecking didn't do any good (after ssh-add -d, and re entering the keyphrase into the agent) | 08:03 |
| Burgundavia | what are you running | 08:04 |
| Burgundavia | ?' | 08:04 |
| philsf | hardy | 08:04 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 08:04 |
| Burgundavia | if that doesn't work, then it is a bug | 08:04 |
| Burgundavia | try checking it, logging out and then logging back in | 08:04 |
| philsf | does it work for you? | 08:04 |
| Burgundavia | I have no ssh keys currently on this machine | 08:04 |
| philsf | oh, ok | 08:04 |
| philsf | could you create one and connect to localhost, just to check this? | 08:05 |
| Burgundavia | sure | 08:05 |
| philsf | thanks | 08:05 |
| Burgundavia | don't see it | 08:08 |
| philsf | I'll turn it into a bug, then, thanks | 08:09 |
| philsf | Burgundavia: I just opened bug #273862 if you'd like to subscribe to it | 08:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 273862 in seahorse "seahorse notification icon doesn't appear anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273862 | 08:18 |
| davmor2 | Guys the tray trashcan isn't changing when there is trash in it but the one in nautilus window does | 08:25 |
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| alex_mayorga | hi, is the miss alignment of restart on the shutdown menu already reported? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:07 |
| alex_mayorga | bug? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | on launchpad, I don't know the number and you can as well look for those | 09:08 |
| alex_mayorga | tried without much luck, my launchpad interrogation powers are not strong enough yet, thanks anyway, preferred to ask than file the duplicate | 09:10 |
| seb128 | that's icon variants missing, look the human-icon-theme bugs there is not so many of those | 09:10 |
| andreasn | alex_mayorga: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/human-icon-theme/+bug/267404 | 09:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 267404 in human-icon-theme "restart icon has wrong size in "Shut Down..." menu" [Undecided,New] | 09:18 |
| crevette | òla! | 09:18 |
| andreasn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/human-icon-theme/+bug/269504 | 09:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 269504 in human-icon-theme ""Suspend" icon is black rectangle in "Shut Down" dialog" [Low,Confirmed] | 09:19 |
| andreasn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/human-icon-theme/+bug/269500 | 09:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 269500 in human-icon-theme ""Log Out" and "Switch User" are misaligned" [Low,Confirmed] | 09:19 |
| alex_mayorga | andreasn, you've got them, looks like 267404 and 269500 are duplicates :) | 09:21 |
| seb128 | alex_mayorga: they are not, they are about different icons | 09:25 |
| alex_mayorga | right, well I can confirm both so do I do? | 09:26 |
| seb128 | you can, that will not make a real difference but doesn't hurt either | 09:27 |
| alex_mayorga | ok confirmed, what's a good way to make a difference? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | alex_mayorga: send patches | 09:30 |
| alex_mayorga | non coder... yet :( | 09:30 |
| seb128 | ok so be patient, there is lot of bugs and not so many people to work on those ;-) | 09:31 |
| alex_mayorga | seb128, OK on the restart one I've found the root cause | 09:38 |
| alex_mayorga | v + | 09:38 |
| seb128 | "v +"? | 09:39 |
| alex_mayorga | gnome-session-reboot.svg should be used there instead of view-refresh.png | 09:39 |
| alex_mayorga | not sure where the change should go, that or add view-refresh.svg on the human-icon-theme | 09:40 |
| andreasn | alex_mayorga: human-icon-theme have view-refresh, it only have it in 24x24 though | 09:41 |
| alex_mayorga | shouldn't the icon there be reboot anyway? | 09:42 |
| seb128 | alex_mayorga: I'll let icon guys decide if we want to use gnome-session-reboot.svg or if the theme should get a view-refresh.svg | 09:42 |
| seb128 | alex_mayorga: there is no standard reboot icon, gnome-session-reboot.svg is an ubuntu hack for the previous gnome-session dialog | 09:43 |
| alex_mayorga | oh! | 09:43 |
| seb128 | it's only in the human icon theme, so it would break for people using clearlooks for example | 09:43 |
| davmor2 | seb128: Valgrind logs so far can be found at http://www.davmor2.co.uk/firef.log and http://www.davmor2.co.uk/pidgin.log | 09:44 |
| davmor2 | off to a funeral now so won't be around for a bit | 09:44 |
| seb128 | davmor2: you need to close the program to have the summary, there is nothing in those logs | 09:44 |
| davmor2 | seb128: ah right 2 ticks then | 09:45 |
| alex_mayorga | seb128, andreasn, time for me to catch some sleep, thanks on the patience, guidance, etc and keep up the great work | 09:45 |
| seb128 | 'night alex_mayorga | 09:46 |
| davmor2 | seb128: done and updated same links | 09:46 |
| seb128 | davmor2: chmod? | 09:47 |
| seb128 | davmor2: wrong permission can't be read on the server | 09:47 |
| seb128 | ok works now | 09:48 |
| davmor2 | should be okay now | 09:48 |
| seb128 | ==12388== still reachable: 6,719,613 bytes in 114,747 blocks. | 09:49 |
| seb128 | davmor2: can you get a new log using --show-reachable=yes later? | 09:50 |
| davmor2 | I just add that to the valgrind line yes? | 09:50 |
| seb128 | correct | 09:50 |
| davmor2 | seb128: I can set it up now and then upload the logs after | 09:51 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:51 |
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| vuntz | do you guys have some DPI/font size issues on brand new accounts? | 11:48 |
| vuntz | since we get the DPI from the X server now, for recent laptops that have a DPI value of ~120, the fonts are huge (at least, in openSUSE) | 11:49 |
| crevette | salut vuntz | 11:57 |
| vuntz | hello crevette | 11:57 |
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| davmor2 | seb128: the --show-reachable=yes logs can be found at http://www.davmor2.co.uk/firef-reach.log and http://www.davmor2.co.uk/pidgin-reach.log | 12:40 |
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| seb128 | davmor2: where? | 13:10 |
| davmor2 | seb128: the --show-reachable=yes logs can be found at http://www.davmor2.co.uk/firef-reach.log and http://www.davmor2.co.uk/pidgin-reach.log | 13:48 |
| MacSlow | How do I setup a machine with working internet-connection to act as a "hub" for a laptop using a x-link ethernet-cable? | 13:49 |
| MacSlow | I'm still suffering from not working iwl3945 driver issues with the 2.6.27-2-generic kernel | 13:50 |
| geser | MacSlow: enable IP forwarding on the server and set the server as the gateway on the laptop, but I don't if there is a GUI for it | 13:53 |
| seb128 | davmor2: I see nothing really obvious there and nothing indicating an interaction between those softwares, maybe somebody on #ubuntu-bugs would have some idea on the issue | 13:54 |
| davmor2 | seb128: okay ta | 13:55 |
| johanbr | MacSlow, geser: I think the firestarter GUI can do that. | 14:04 |
| MacSlow | geser, there's this frontend firestarter ... | 14:04 |
| MacSlow | johanbr, yeah... | 14:04 |
| MacSlow | but it isn't able to start the cable-bound device eth0 | 14:04 |
| MacSlow | johanbr, geser: I do have to use a crosslink-cable, if I connect one machine with another, right? I'm just wondering why I cannot ping one box from the other. | 14:10 |
| geser | MacSlow: are both interfaces up and in the same network? | 14:13 |
| MacSlow | geser, both use 192.168.0.x | 14:13 |
| MacSlow | and both are up | 14:13 |
| geser | no iptables rules? | 14:14 |
| mpt | vuntz, yo, where's the UX hackfest being held? | 14:14 |
| MacSlow | geser, I rely on firestarter for any iptables setup | 14:14 |
| johanbr | MacSlow: It depends. Some network cards can detect if you use a straight cable and reverse the signals internally. | 14:15 |
| geser | can you check if your NICs show an active link? | 14:15 |
| geser | they usually have a LED for it | 14:15 |
| vuntz_ | mpt: somewhere in boston. Owen is looking for a location. I don't have recent news :/ | 14:15 |
| mpt | ok, thanks | 14:15 |
| MacSlow | geser, johanbr: the green led is on on both NIC-ports | 14:15 |
| MacSlow | geser, johanbr: the green led is on on both NIC-ports (on the box with the internet-connection also the yellow led is on) | 14:16 |
| johanbr | MacSlow: What's the output of "sudo mii-diag ethX" on both sides? | 14:17 |
| johanbr | And is /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward set to 1 on the box with two nics? | 14:20 |
| MacSlow | johanbr, cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward spits out 1 (enabled then I assume) | 14:22 |
| geser | MacSlow: try disabling the firewall in firestarter and check if you can ping the other box then | 14:24 |
| MacSlow | geser, that doesn't change anything | 14:25 |
| johanbr | Does the client box have a route to the server? ("route -n") | 14:26 |
| MacSlow | johanbr, I would say yes | 14:27 |
| MacSlow | geser, johanbr: it's a bit awkward right now trying to get command output of the client box (with only one NIC) to the box with internet-access in order to put it up on pastebin | 14:28 |
| johanbr | How about in the other direction? Does the server have a route to the client? | 14:29 |
| MacSlow | 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0 | 14:29 |
| MacSlow | 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 | 14:29 |
| MacSlow | hm... that's not good I guess | 14:29 |
| geser | MacSlow: ouch | 14:29 |
| geser | don't put wlan and eth into the same net | 14:29 |
| MacSlow | I guess I've to put them on a different net | 14:30 |
| geser | yes | 14:30 |
| MacSlow | geser, ok that solved the ping issue | 14:31 |
| geser | MacSlow: but the laptop still don't have a internet connection? | 14:33 |
| MacSlow | geser, correct | 14:34 |
| MacSlow | geser, afaik I only have to tell the laptop to use the 192.168.1.100 as the default gw for everything | 14:35 |
| MacSlow | geser, that's done with the route command aswell iirc | 14:35 |
| johanbr | Yes, but it may not be completely configured on the server. | 14:35 |
| geser | have you reenable firestarter (just to be sure)? can you ping 64.233.167.99 (google.com) from the laptop | 14:35 |
| MacSlow | geser, no ping replies connect: Network is unreachable | 14:38 |
| johanbr | Are you doing the forwarding over wlan? Or does the server have two wired connections? | 14:38 |
| geser | MacSlow: but ping 64.233.167.99 on the server works? | 14:40 |
| MacSlow_ | geser, johanbr: firestarter just died on me | 14:45 |
| MacSlow_ | geser, johanbr: I'm back again with working ping between the "server" and "client" | 14:45 |
| MacSlow_ | geser, johanbr: firestarter runs on the server | 14:45 |
| MacSlow_ | geser, johanbr: and obviously internet-access works on it | 14:46 |
| MacSlow_ | geser, johanbr: I think I'm only missing the default route on the client/laptop | 14:46 |
| geser | MacSlow_: that might be (and perhaps DNS) | 14:47 |
| MacSlow_ | geser, johanbr: as it only lists on route ... 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 | 14:47 |
| geser | "sudo route add default gw IPofServer" on the client | 14:49 |
| MacSlow_ | ok... no I can ping google.com via the IP | 14:49 |
| MacSlow_ | so last thing would be to edit /etc/resolv.conf with a valid name-server IP from my provider?! | 14:50 |
| geser | MacSlow_: yes | 14:50 |
| geser | or if your WLAN router does DNS forwarding you can use it too on the client (see the resolv.conf on the server) | 14:51 |
| MacSlow_ | geser, ok ping on symbolic addresses works now too | 14:51 |
| johanbr | great :) | 14:52 |
| MacSlow_ | johanbr, geser: thx for the help | 14:53 |
| geser | np | 14:53 |
| geser | hopefully nobody will complain that we misused this channel :) | 14:53 |
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| seb128 | mvo: around? | 15:10 |
| seb128 | where is mvo when you need him | 15:14 |
| mvo | yes | 15:15 |
| seb128 | mvo: gnome-appaerance-capplet crash on startup here and seing how bugzilla get flooded since this morning I seem to not be the only one, does it work for you? | 15:15 |
| seb128 | mvo: gnome-appearance-properties rather ;-) | 15:15 |
| mvo | seb128: meh, I see this here too - checking it out now | 15:17 |
| seb128 | mvo: thanks | 15:17 |
| seb128 | #0 conv_to_widget_cb (peditor=0x851bd60, value=0x8515310) at appearance-style.c:763 | 15:17 |
| seb128 | hum | 15:17 |
| mvo | seb128: there have been changes since .90 and .0 in this area, so that makes sense | 15:23 |
| seb128 | mvo: seems to be an upstream issue, don't bother too much I'll ping them, I just wanted to make sure we didn't break the .glade or something in a distribution specific way to not get an another flameware about distro changes | 15:25 |
| mvo | seb128: sure, give me ~20min and should have more information | 15:25 |
| seb128 | mvo: ok, reverting http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-control-center?view=revision&revision=8879 fixes it, don't bother I'm on it | 15:27 |
| mvo | ok | 15:30 |
| lool | mvo: Hmm I see you commented in the acpid changelog that you added -D_GNU_SOURCE to get access to some struct's definition (uschred or something); what for? the pkg builds for me without this -D | 15:34 |
| mvo | lool: its been a while ago, maybe it was a problem with the toolchain back then? if it works fine now, then just remove it again :) | 15:35 |
| lool | mvo: I was preparing a Debian upload, so I'll just not merge it | 15:35 |
| mvo | lool: ok, thanks | 15:35 |
| lool | Wont merge for Ubuntu now, too intrusive for intrepid | 15:36 |
| james_w | lool: care to include this bugfix I'm just testing? | 15:36 |
| lool | james_w: With pleasure | 15:37 |
| james_w | lool: I was about to forward the patch, but if you can take it directly that will save time | 15:37 |
| lool | I can | 15:37 |
| seb128 | mvo: in appearance-style.c | 15:41 |
| seb128 | - create_thumbnail (curr_value, thumbnail, data); | 15:41 |
| seb128 | + if (data) | 15:41 |
| seb128 | + create_thumbnail (curr_value, thumbnail, data); | 15:41 |
| star | hi...can any body say me about setting dialup account in ubuntu through bluetooth modem in mobile ubottu ? | 15:41 |
| seb128 | mvo: does that look good to you? I'm not sure to understand the g_object_get_data (G_OBJECT (peditor), "app_data"); and why data is null but that fixes the crash | 15:41 |
| seb128 | star: hello, that's not an user channel, try #ubuntu | 15:41 |
| star | there is no reply for my query in ubuntu... so only i tried this... can u help ,me? | 15:43 |
| seb128 | no | 15:44 |
| star | y | 15:44 |
| seb128 | I've no dialup account, no bluetooth modem and that's not the right channel | 15:44 |
| star | u dont know ? | 15:44 |
| seb128 | no | 15:44 |
| star | k... what this channel deals with ? | 15:45 |
| mvo | seb128: that will work, the issue is that in the function cerate_thumbnail data-> something is accessed and that (of course) crashes for NULL. how this is a bit strnage | 15:45 |
| mvo | seb128: g_object_set_data is called earlier on the peditor, I wonder if there is some sort of timing problem (read before initial write) | 15:45 |
| mvo | (well, not timing, ordering) | 15:46 |
| mvo | anyway, I think your patch is fine if we get a lot of crashes currently | 15:46 |
| seb128 | mvo: it seems to crash on startup for everybody yes | 15:46 |
| seb128 | mvo: well, "data = g_object_get_data (G_OBJECT (peditor), "app_data");" I'm not sure what app_data is and why it returns null in some cases there | 15:47 |
| seb128 | mvo: ie, I'm not sure we should look at why that value is null sometimes or just don't create the thumbnails in such cases | 15:47 |
| mvo | seb128: I think the reason is that preditor gets the callbacks when it is created, but after the creation the g_object_set_data() is called and app_data is initialized. I think we should go with your fix and let upstream decide if there is more to it | 15:49 |
| mvo | s/but after/but only after/ | 15:50 |
| seb128 | ok, will do that then | 15:50 |
| seb128 | I attached my patch to the upstream bug | 15:50 |
| seb128 | vuntz_: read that too? | 15:50 |
| mvo | right | 15:50 |
| mvo | thanks for taking care of it seb128! | 15:50 |
| mvo | seb128: will you check it into bzr or should I do that? | 15:51 |
| vuntz_ | seb128: I came to the same conclusion as mvo, although that's just a guess | 15:54 |
| seb128 | vuntz_: I'm wondering how come nobody noticed in a month, but maybe nobody is running svn, or there is a theme or something installed on ubuntu which trigger the issue | 15:54 |
| james_w | lool: my patch is in bug 263888, let me know if there is any merging to do | 15:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 263888 in acpid "acpid killed by default logrotate script" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263888 | 15:55 |
| vuntz_ | seb128: I'd think that something specific in ubuntu triggers this | 15:55 |
| seb128 | james_w: that's not really a desktopish bug ;-) | 15:55 |
| seb128 | vuntz_: ok, will patch the ubuntu package then and let fizz or rodrigo comment upstream on the bug | 15:56 |
| * james_w un-installs acpid from seb128's desktop to see what happens | 15:56 | |
| seb128 | james_w: you can claim libc6 is desktop using the say argument ;-) | 15:56 |
| seb128 | same rather ;-) | 15:57 |
| james_w | libc6 *is* desktop | 15:57 |
| seb128 | see! | 15:57 |
| james_w | well, I'll claim that if you'll maintain it :-) | 15:57 |
| * seb128 starts running | 15:58 | |
| lool | james_w: Sorry, had a phone call, looking now | 16:01 |
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| lool | james_w: attachment? | 16:03 |
| lool | james_w: Don't see the change :-/ | 16:03 |
| james_w | lool: damn, sorry, refresh | 16:03 |
| lool | Got it now, thanks | 16:04 |
| lool | james_w: Not sure why we'd want to conditionalize on the version number | 16:05 |
| lool | james_w: I'm curious why you didn't name it rm_conffile? :) | 16:05 |
| james_w | I conditionalized the version number just because I try and be very conservative with these things, but I agree that it's probably not needed | 16:06 |
| lool | james_w: Ah, I think it'd be best to use dpkg-query | 16:06 |
| lool | james_w: I was like you in the past, and some day I met Ian Jackson | 16:06 |
| james_w | and I renamed the function just on the off chance anyone actually wanted to use the real rm_conffile | 16:06 |
| lool | For some reason, he made me realizes we should check for facts and not use version numbers as proxies | 16:07 |
| lool | *realize | 16:07 |
| lool | james_w: Why not use dpkg-query? | 16:07 |
| james_w | yeah, I agree, but I don't see the harm in the version check as well. | 16:07 |
| james_w | dpkg-query for what? | 16:07 |
| lool | To get the md5 | 16:07 |
| lool | old_md5sum="`dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}' $PKGNAME | sed -n -e \"\\\\' $CONFFILE '{s/ obsolete$//;s/.* //p}\"`" | 16:07 |
| lool | james_w: dpkg merges the md5s, even if you upgrade to a package without them | 16:08 |
| james_w | because I didn't think that the md5 would still be recorded | 16:09 |
| lool | james_w: So the MD5 should still be usable from dpkg-query | 16:09 |
| james_w | can you confirm that "dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}' acpid" returns a value for /etc/logrotate.d/acpid on your machine? | 16:10 |
| lool | james_w: It does not, but I have other files which aren't in the package anymore :) | 16:10 |
| lool | james_w: I have /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh 4a47848857665e6aff52ec15fac5bcc1 obsolete | 16:10 |
| lool | /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn 57f021ab2369f211018d6e7d11434314 obsolete% 2008/09/24 17:10:48 | pts/0 | zsh/5 | 16:10 |
| lool | Ah sorry for the \n | 16:11 |
| james_w | everything dpkg-query reports is installed for me | 16:11 |
| lool | (this is on Debian BTW) | 16:12 |
| james_w | let me check another machine | 16:12 |
| lool | On ubuntu, I do get: /etc/logrotate.d/acpid df7469c58992aed179a5c30148b3da79 obsolete | 16:12 |
| lool | and /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn 57f021ab2369f211018d6e7d11434314 /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh 4a47848857665e6aff52ec15fac5bcc1 | 16:12 |
| lool | still real files | 16:12 |
| lool | james_w: Where did you take previous versions of the files from BTW? | 16:13 |
| james_w | old source packages | 16:13 |
| james_w | I could only find two versions of the file | 16:13 |
| lool | Any version in particular? Did you go back to etch/hardy for instance? | 16:15 |
| james_w | I grabbed a few versions from launchpad, including the oldest they had | 16:15 |
| lool | james_w: I'm not sure there's any value in listing an old md5 of the vanilla conffile though | 16:15 |
| lool | james_w: if the conffile was unchanged, then it was superseded by the new one on upgrade | 16:16 |
| james_w | dpkg-query does the right thing, so I think we should just use that, so I agree | 16:16 |
| lool | Yeah | 16:16 |
| vuntz | seb128: did you patch g-c-c with your patch? | 16:17 |
| seb128 | vuntz: no, I attached it to bugzilla and I'm patching the ubuntu package now | 16:17 |
| vuntz | seb128: want to try another patch? :-) | 16:18 |
| vuntz | oh, well, it's the same, I guess | 16:18 |
| vuntz | doesn't matter | 16:18 |
| seb128 | vuntz: if you want | 16:18 |
| lool | james_w: Just FYI, no ;; in case statement is a bit weird, but also present on Debian's wiki | 16:19 |
| vuntz | seb128: nah, ignore me | 16:19 |
| lool | james_w: Don't bother preparing a new patch, will just use rm_conffile | 16:19 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ok | 16:19 |
| james_w | lool: cool, works for me | 16:19 |
| lool | james_w: Would you like to upload the Ubuntu change? | 16:28 |
| lool | james_w: I've committed the change to the Debian tree, and can either let you prepare the Ubuntu upload or do it, as you like | 16:28 |
| james_w | lool: I don't have upload rights | 16:29 |
| lool | james_w: I meant .dsc | 16:29 |
| james_w | I'm happy to prepare the change and seek sponsorship if you like | 16:29 |
| lool | As to get your name in a bigger number of uploads so to speak | 16:29 |
| james_w | sure :-) | 16:29 |
| lool | james_w: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-acpi/acpid.git;a=commit;h=ad81211857dabeb88538e0f90c922b7c787b34c5 | 16:30 |
| lool | james_w: But it's not suitable for Ubuntu to drop the other two files | 16:30 |
| lool | james_w: Just throw a debdiff or dsc + diffgz when you like sponsoring | 16:30 |
| james_w | thanks loo | 16:30 |
| james_w | oops, lool :-) | 16:31 |
| lool | I'm afk for a reboot to test the new package | 16:32 |
| * mvo is away for ~ 2h | 17:06 | |
| seb128 | tedg: hi, there is a gnome-screensaver update if you didn't notice yet ;-) | 17:11 |
| seb128 | didrocks: did you see my comment about gconf-editor? | 17:11 |
| seb128 | slomo: any news about the cairo update? | 17:12 |
| seb128 | fta: want to do the cairo ubuntu update? slomo seems to be busy and the intrepid beta freeze is tomorrow | 17:19 |
| vuntz | seb128: how does 2.24 look for you? No big issue apart the control center one? | 17:23 |
| seb128 | vuntz: no real issue no | 17:23 |
| seb128 | vuntz: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553418 got quite some duplicate because we use the applet by default but I backported the svn change | 17:24 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 553418 in trash applet "trashapplet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_icon_equal()" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] | 17:24 |
| vuntz | mmh | 17:25 |
| vuntz | worth a new tarball | 17:26 |
| vuntz | but I'd guess that Callum sleeps now :/ | 17:26 |
| slomo | seb128: xcb doesn't build and i didn't look closer yet | 18:06 |
| slomo | seb128: don't wait for me | 18:06 |
| vuntz | is anybody running with gvfs 1.0.1 (if it was already packaged)? | 18:26 |
| pochu | It's been packaged 3 and half hours ago | 18:30 |
| Keybuk | seb128: the new logout dialog stuff is in gnome-sesion right? | 18:37 |
| tedg | seb128: bug 274075 | 19:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274075 in gnome-screensaver "Please sponsor 2.24.0-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274075 | 19:02 |
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| vuntz | seb128: does trash with gvfs 1.0.1 work for you? | 19:26 |
| seb128 | vuntz: yes, delete moves items to the trash and emptying it or undeleting works correctly | 19:49 |
| seb128 | tedg: ok thanks | 19:49 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: yes, why? it's not upstream though | 19:49 |
| Keybuk | seb128: I filed a bug ;) | 19:49 |
| vuntz | seb128: ok, cool | 19:50 |
| vuntz | seb128: not working in my jhbuild, but it looks like a local issue with my jhbuilt GNOME | 19:50 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ok | 19:50 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: duplicates | 19:50 |
| Keybuk | seb128: of, couldn't see the report? | 19:51 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: mpt reported those bugs a while ago, they got reassigned to human-icon-theme though since that's due to a lack of proper icons for those icons in the theme | 19:51 |
| Keybuk | cuold you make sure that bug is targeted for intrepid? | 19:51 |
| seb128 | will do, I was going to raise the issue tomorrow at the meeting | 19:52 |
| seb128 | not sure what is the process to get icons designed ;-) | 19:52 |
| seb128 | I just know I'm not an artwork guy so I'll not be doing those | 19:52 |
| seb128 | I asked mpt if he could talk to the right people to get that happen yesterday though | 19:53 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: bug #269500 and bug #269502 | 19:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269500 in human-icon-theme ""Log Out" and "Switch User" are misaligned" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269500 | 19:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269502 in human-icon-theme ""Restart" is misaligned with other options in "Shut Down" dialog" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269502 | 19:55 |
| Keybuk | thanks | 19:57 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: want some update to do? ;-) | 21:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks: did you read my comment about gconf-editor? | 21:09 |
| seb128 | fta_: did you read my comment about cairo? | 21:17 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: I'm not sure to understand your new gnome-session bug, is that about the option missing or the icon? | 22:05 |
| Keybuk | the option | 22:06 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: does gnome-power-manager give you the option? | 22:06 |
| seb128 | the session dialog only lists the available option | 22:07 |
| seb128 | try using the icon | 22:07 |
| Keybuk | ok, gnome power manager doesn't have the icon | 22:08 |
| Keybuk | should it have an icon? | 22:08 |
| Keybuk | ie. why can't I suspend? | 22:08 |
| seb128 | that is a good question, I would say either linux or gnome-power-manager bug | 22:09 |
| seb128 | that's similar to bug #274080 | 22:09 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: maybe try running gnome-power-manager --verbose --nodaemon and look at the log | 22:10 |
| Keybuk | "We are not a laptop, so not even trying" maybe ? | 22:11 |
| seb128 | could be | 22:11 |
| seb128 | I'm on my laptop right now which still have the options | 22:12 |
| seb128 | tedg: did you read about such issue? the new gpm had quite some changes | 22:12 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: bug #274146 will be tricky to solve, not the first time we have similar issues, I was thinking about it today | 22:13 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: the gnome-panel layout is user configuration | 22:13 |
| Keybuk | *nods* | 22:13 |
| tedg | seb128: What's the issue? That it doesn't think you can suspend? | 22:14 |
| seb128 | we could replace the old applet by the new fusa and deprecated the old fusa | 22:14 |
| seb128 | that would handle this case | 22:14 |
| seb128 | but would break for people who have a fuse on their panel only for example | 22:14 |
| Keybuk | should work, yeah | 22:14 |
| seb128 | they would have nothing after upgrade | 22:14 |
| seb128 | tedg: right | 22:15 |
| tedg | For the most part GPM just asks HAL. Let me look up the key. | 22:16 |
| pochu | seb128: libgnomeprint{,ui} waiting for sponsorship in Debian | 22:16 |
| seb128 | pochu: I've noticed thanks | 22:16 |
| tedg | Migrating user config will be a trick for panel applets. We could say "if they've never changed it", but I'm not sure that's valid either. | 22:16 |
| seb128 | there is no easy way to know if they never changed | 22:18 |
| seb128 | and that's never going to happen | 22:18 |
| seb128 | almost everybody moves something once and try an another applet once | 22:18 |
| tedg | Keybuk: $ hal-device | grep power_management.can_suspend | 22:20 |
| tedg | I'm not sure what the right upgrade path is. | 22:22 |
| tedg | I think it's something to bring up at the User Experience Hackfest. | 22:22 |
| tedg | I'm personally more concerned about people who removed the old, bad, FUSA applet and aren't going to get the new, beautiful one ;) | 22:23 |
| seb128 | tedg: do you plan to add some icons for the actions in the menu btw? | 22:23 |
| seb128 | I've to admit I find it not very nice to look at at the moment | 22:23 |
| tedg | seb128: No, my current "scheduler of tasks" (not boss mind you :) thinks that looks very clean. | 22:25 |
| * tedg is very excited to have a boss and scheduler all in one in a couple weeks. | 22:26 | |
| seb128 | and any plan to change the padding? the icon is not really in the corner and that looks weird | 22:27 |
| seb128 | tedg: let's wait on user comment, I don't like it because of the lack of icons, it makes me unsure of the option to pick, graphics makes things some much easier than having to read the option | 22:28 |
| tedg | Hmm, I liked the padding. I feel like things get to cozy up there in the corner. | 22:30 |
| tedg | I'm feeling a little bit of hands tied, as it is UI freeze though. | 22:30 |
| tedg | There'll have to be some outcry. | 22:30 |
| tedg | It is theoretically UI frozen for Intrepid. | 22:31 |
| seb128 | well, that doesn't mean we can't fix bugs | 22:32 |
| Stemp | Hi all, sorry if i'm in the wrong channel. I'd like to talk about the gspcav2 driver and about the webcams apps. There is a serious problem about the packahe libv4l not in Debian (so not in Intrepid). Is it the right place to talk about it ? | 22:33 |
| seb128 | that's the wrong channel as you said | 22:34 |
| seb128 | no | 22:34 |
| tedg | seb128: Heh, yes. But I was trying not to use that excuse too much. Don't want to piss off that Ubuntu Platform Team ;) | 22:34 |
| tedg | seb128: They're a tough upstream. | 22:34 |
| Stemp | thanks seb128, where can I talk about cheese and camorama ? | 22:35 |
| seb128 | you can try #ubuntu-devel but send a mail to the ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list is a better option | 22:36 |
| Stemp | thanks seb128 | 22:37 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 22:38 |
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| fta | hi | 22:41 |
| fta | seb128, which comment ? | 22:41 |
| seb128 | fta: hey, could you look at the cairo update? beta freeze is tomorrow and it's likely debian will get it before that | 22:41 |
| fta | seb128, you mean unlikely right? sure, i can do it, is pixman already in? | 22:42 |
| seb128 | right | 22:42 |
| seb128 | fta: yes, I synced it on monday | 22:42 |
| fta | cool | 22:43 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: if the update is still left to do, i'm ready now | 23:13 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-media/2.24/gnome-media-2.24.0.1.tar.gz | 23:14 |
| Ampelbein | k | 23:14 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: #208597 is also an easy fix, might be worth to consider updating to the current debian version though | 23:38 |
| Ampelbein | looking | 23:38 |
| Ampelbein | hmm. i think i could fix it. is a sync with debian easier? | 23:39 |
| seb128 | debian has a newer version, I've no real opinion on it | 23:40 |
| seb128 | but otherwise the patch is probably trivial, just the .desktop to change | 23:40 |
| Ampelbein | i'll look into the package what fixes are existent in ubuntu compared to the debian version | 23:40 |
| seb128 | ok | 23:41 |
| Ampelbein | i could first create a fixed version of the package then we could think about syncing with debian | 23:41 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: I'm about to go to bed, is the gnome-media update almost ready? | 23:41 |
| Ampelbein | still building. | 23:41 |
| seb128 | ie should I wait and sponsor this one and let that for tomorrow ;-) | 23:41 |
| Ampelbein | bug 274180, should be 5 mins | 23:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274180 in gnome-media "Please update to 2.24.0.1" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274180 | 23:41 |
| Ampelbein | just waiting for ppa to be finished | 23:42 |
| Ampelbein | ok, i386 built succesfully, uploaded | 23:43 |
| fta | seb128, the new build system of cairo is pretty broken.. | 23:45 |
| seb128 | fta: they did change the build system between 1.7.4 and 1.7.6? | 23:45 |
| fta | yes | 23:45 |
| fta | "The largest number of changes since 1.7.4 did not change the | 23:45 |
| fta | implementation of cairo itself, but instead revamped cairo's build | 23:45 |
| fta | system. The primary goal of the revamp is to make the build system | 23:45 |
| fta | less fragile, (particularly for non-Linux platforms). For example, now | 23:45 |
| fta | people building on win32 will no longer need to maintain a | 23:45 |
| fta | platform-specific list of files to be built. Also, the .so file will | 23:45 |
| fta | now be installed with a different naming scheme, (for example, 1.7.6 | 23:45 |
| seb128 | fta: maybe point it on #cairo, they are around and responsive usually | 23:45 |
| fta | will install with a .10706 suffix). Much thanks, Behdad! | 23:45 |
| fta | " | 23:45 |
| fta | git seems fixed. i'm trying to locate the right patch among hundreds | 23:46 |
| seb128 | you can ask that on #cairo too, they are helpful usually when somebody ask a question | 23:50 |
| pochu | g'night | 23:53 |
| seb128 | 'night pochu | 23:54 |
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