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dholbachgood morning07:50
iulianGood morning Daniel.07:56
dholbachhiya iulian08:01
geserGuten Morgen dholbach08:12
dholbachhi geser :)08:13
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torkelgeser: any new comments on bug 264303? As it is not a new upstream version a FFe shouldn't be needed, right? Or would you still prefer to patch -3 over a sync?08:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 264303 in openafs "Please sync openafs (1.4.7.dfsg1-6) from debian" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26430308:23
gesertorkel: no, a ffe is not needed, and with the changes in -6 it's worth syncing. thanks for letting my know.08:36
torkelgeser: thanks. :-)08:37
Hobbsee!ffe08:49
ubottuuvf is Upstream Version Freeze.  For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d608:49
Hobbseehm, microreleases aren't documented there.08:51
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rulusroreleases aren't documented there.09:05
rulusoops, sorry09:05
siretartany ~motu-release members around? Could you please have a look at the vlc 0.9.2 exception request now that beta freeze is approaching? TIA!09:26
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Koonslangasek: you accepted cim-schema source in multiverse a few weeks ago, but for some reason the resulting binary package appears in universe. bug ?10:21
Koonhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/cim-schema/2.18.1-0ubuntu110:21
slangasekKoon: bug or oversight; from this distance it's hard to tell10:22
slangasekKoon: I accepted the source though, someone else would have accepted the binary (and set the section), I think10:23
slangasekchanged now10:23
Koonslangasek: great ;)10:23
Koonslangasek: fyi, I'm trying to push some licensing clarification upstream10:24
slangasekthat should prove interesting :-)10:24
siretartslangasek: re your mlt rebuild: it currently FTBFS, see the lp report about that12:09
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willem-tooropHi MOTU's! Would anytwo of you care for reviewing my Tetris for Terminals (tt) package?13:40
raphinkwillem-toorop: I'm using konversation13:43
raphink:p13:43
raphinkhi nxvl13:44
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Adri2000no one has any pending change for u-d-t? (I'm going to upload in some minutes)14:45
Adri2000jpds: around?14:49
Adri2000I recall some discussion in this channel about the versioning of u-d-t, but was any kind of decision made?14:52
Adri2000imo we should return to simple native versioning, without the ubuntu1 bit14:53
geseryes, that's what I proposed but someone told me that lintian will complain or something like that14:54
broonielintian does get it wrong sometimes.14:55
Adri2000yeah, I don't think that is a very good reason :p14:55
Adri2000lintian should be fixed to not complain about the missing "ubuntu" bit in the version, if the package is not in debian14:56
Adri2000so I'll go without ubuntu1, and if indeed lintian complains, will file a bug15:00
Adri2000  ubuntu-dev-tools_0.45_source.changes: done.15:21
Adri2000and bug #27399715:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 273997 in lintian "Incorrectly reports an Ubuntu native package as nmu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27399715:27
ThorstenSickHello15:45
ThorstenSickCan anyone help me creating a patch for meld ?15:45
ThorstenSickI am new to packaging and can not identify the patch system (if there is any)15:46
azeemis there a debian/patches directory?15:46
jpdsAdri2000: Pong?15:46
ThorstenSickYes, there is, but files in there seem not to be included in a build15:46
ThorstenSickAt least the patch was not effective15:46
azeemThorstenSick: inspect the Build-Depends in debian/control.  Does it include either dpatch or quilt?15:47
Adri2000jpds: was about u-d-t's versioning, I finally uploaded as 0.45, and filed a bug for lintian's false positives15:47
ThorstenSickIt depends on "patch"15:48
azeemThorstenSick: then inspect debian/rules for a "patch" target or similar; it looks like a hand-written patch system then15:49
jpdsAdri2000: re: any u-d-t work - not at the moment - I do not have my own computer anymore, so I have limited net time.15:49
azeemif so, the list of patches to apply might be hardcoded somewhere in debian/rules15:49
ThorstenSickinclude /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk15:49
azeemthat's from CDBS15:50
azeemso what do you mean with "files in there seem not to be included in a build"15:50
Adri2000jpds: ok np, just wanted to ask you because that versioning was started in one of your uploads15:51
ThorstenSickI am trying to learn from th devweek/fixingbugs15:51
azeemI understand15:51
azeemI don't understand the above in the context of cdbs though15:51
jpdsAdri2000: RainCT was complaining about NMU lintian errors (or something).15:51
Adri2000ThorstenSick: when you don't know the patch system used by a package, you can use the what-patch utility from ubuntu-dev-tools, even though it may not know or be wrong15:52
ThorstenSickazeem:A patch dropped in the patch dir did not fix the biug15:52
ThorstenSickcool15:52
azeemThorstenSick: inspect the build log and make sure the patch got applied during bulid15:52
azeemThorstenSick: did you create a new source package?  How did you test-build it?15:52
Adri2000jpds: yeah, that's what I recalled from a discussion here. I filed bug #273997 for that15:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 273997 in lintian "Incorrectly reports an Ubuntu native package as nmu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27399715:53
ThorstenSickpbuilder15:53
jpdsAdri2000: Great, thanks.15:53
ThorstenSickIt was yesterday, ...tracking back...15:53
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Adri2000TheMuso: mpd is failing in intrepid with "E: client-conf-x11.c: XOpenDisplay() failed". according to mpd's wiki, it's something wrong with pulseaudio. do you have any idea of what could be the problem?15:57
Adri2000TheMuso: bug #273721, #273586, http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio15:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 273721 in mpd "Segmentation fault when starting mpd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27372115:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 273586 in mpd "package mpd 0.13.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27358615:58
TheMusoAdri2000: I'll have a look tomorrow, unfortunately I don't have time right now. Off the top of my head I have no idea so I'll have to dig and have a play myself.15:59
Adri2000TheMuso: okay, thanks15:59
ThorstenSickazeem: I think yesterday the filename was missing a .patch. At least the log looks a lot better with ".patch" attached.16:05
azeemhrm, could be16:05
slangaseksiretart: why, so it does :/16:08
ThorstenSickazeem: It works ! Now just add the debdiff as an attachment to the bug ?16:09
azeemThorstenSick: I'm not sure what you are trying to do and no expert in that kind of stuff, better ask the whole channel16:10
ThorstenSickI just created my first debdiff. The bug is LP #203033. What to do now ? Attach it to the bug and wait for someone to review it ?16:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 203033 in meld "html not escaped in search" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20303316:12
ThorstenSickIs a motu here who can please review my patch for LP #20303316:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 203033 in meld "html not escaped in search" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20303316:24
ThorstenSick?16:24
james_wThorstenSick: you should break your changelog line before 80 chars, but otherwise it looks good16:27
james_wwhat patch system is in use?16:27
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ThorstenSickjames_w: cdbs16:31
james_wcdbs-simple-patchsys?16:31
james_wthen your change looks fine to me16:31
james_wThorstenSick: please subscribe the sponsors team16:32
james_w"Subscribe someone else" -> ubuntu-universe-sponsors16:32
ThorstenSickjames_w: what-patch just says cdbs. this is myfirst debdiff...16:32
ThorstenSickjames_w: done...and they will review it ?16:34
james_wyeah, someone will look at it in the next few days and either ask you to change something, reject it, or upload it.16:34
ThorstenSickThanks.16:35
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ThorstenSickCU16:44
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slangaseksiretart: mlt fix uploaded16:58
NCommandersoren, good morning17:08
sorenIt's 6 PM!17:08
sebnersoren: \o/ - Same timezone :D17:09
NCommandersoren, ok, good evening17:09
NCommandersoren, any issues beside the -dev one with the Xfce 4.6 packages?17:09
sorenNCommander: It seems the meta key was redefined..17:12
sorenNCommander: Sorry, i'm on a phone call right now.17:12
NCommandersoren, Oh, sorry. I can't reproduce that one (without lack of trying when you told me about it)17:13
NCommandersoren, what keyboard layout do you use :-)17:13
sorenDanish.17:13
liwI guess he's using the Danish one17:13
NCommandersoren, I'll report a bug on the Xfce bug tracker that the meta key has been redefined (to what specifically?)17:14
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iulianHi17:53
liwwould someone be willing to sponsor an upload of system-cleaner for me, from REVU? (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=system-cleaner); compared to the version in intrepid already, it fixes two bugs17:59
liwrelease team (pitti) and doc team have said they're ok with the upload17:59
siretartany ~motu-release members around? Could you please have a look at the vlc 0.9.2 exception request now that beta freeze is approaching? TIA!18:27
* jdong adds to the mounting pressure too :)18:30
jdongDktrKranz: you're on ~motu-release right? ~motumedia would really like the VLC 0.9.2 FFe to be evaluated prior to betafreeze19:09
DktrKranzjdong, yes.19:10
DktrKranzI'll have a look at it in some minutes19:11
jdongthank you very much19:11
jdong(bug 270404 for reference)19:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 270404 in vlc "Please update VLC to 0.9.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27040419:11
siretartDktrKranz: thanks for your vote on vlc. how many further votes do we need?20:06
DktrKranzsiretart, two motu-release ACKs. If I read it correctly, mine is first, so you need another one20:07
siretartah20:07
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k0phi20:14
k0pI have a patch in queue... someone can apply?20:15
crimsunk0p: bug #?20:19
k0p#26475020:21
k0phttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/umit/+bug/26475020:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 264750 in umit "umit higwidgets conflits" [Undecided,New]20:21
k0pwow20:21
k0p#26475020:21
k0phttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/umit/+bug/26475020:22
k0phmm bot doesn't awser :(20:22
crimsunk0p: is it intentional that debian/patches/{root,setup}.patch are also touched but are not mentioned in debian/changelog?20:24
fabrice_spHi. Can someone review my debdiff in Bug #272263 and upload if correct? Thanks20:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272263 in icedove-dispmua "icedove-dispmua: Package has a Depends on icedove (<= 2.0.0.99) which cannot be satisfied in Intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27226320:25
crimsunfabrice_sp: looking in a sec.20:25
fabrice_spgreat! tks crimsun20:25
crimsunfabrice_sp: I can't upload (anymore), but I'll certainly review the diff20:25
k0pcrimsun, did you see last patch?20:26
k0phttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/17309092/higwidgets_issue-update.patch20:26
fabrice_spcrimsun: ok. better than nothing ;-)20:26
crimsunk0p: that's the one I applied prior to reviewing20:26
crimsunk0p: ah, I see.  The references are there.20:27
k0pyeah20:27
k0pI update because I forget update changelog20:27
k0pupdated*20:28
crimsunk0p: looks fine (just trivial whitespace matters in the changelog, but relatively unimportant)20:28
k0pdo you want a update again?20:29
k0pI can do that but I didn't see whitespace. How people detect it? Many people from motus detects whitespace.. I forget take care with it20:30
crimsunk0p: I suggest updating the debdiff, but that's really up to whomever uploads20:31
crimsunfabrice_sp: looks good.  has asac looked at it, too?20:32
fabrice_spcrimsun: asac put a comment in the bug report, but I don't think he had a look at the debdiff20:32
k0pcrimsun, where did you see whitespace?20:33
fabrice_sp(I requested also review in ubuntu-mozillateam, but get no answer...)20:33
crimsunk0p: the topmost (most recent) debian/changelog entry20:33
k0phmm20:34
crimsunk0p: mostly alignment issues; see your bottommost (first) debian/changelog entry for the asterisk20:34
crimsun(indentation, really)20:34
k0p:\20:35
fabrice_spcrimsun: I think that they had already a lot of work with this firefox 3.0 stuff, and too busy to review my debdiff20:35
fabrice_sp(they = mozillateam)20:35
crimsunfabrice_sp: (right, I'm also there)20:35
crimsunfabrice_sp: perhaps wait a day or so; the u-u-s queue is processed consistently20:36
k0pcrimsun, I didn' see mistakes on identation20:36
crimsunk0p: notice how both "- fixed ..." lines are placed closer to the leading edge (on a left-to-right orientation) than their parents20:38
k0pgrr20:39
k0pyeah20:39
k0pbut not in my vi20:39
crimsunyeah, I unset tabs and such when I review patches20:39
fabrice_spcrimsun: Won't the beta freeze affect the upload of non 'high' importance bug?20:41
crimsunfabrice_sp: UTC isn't quite at betafreeze yet20:42
fabrice_spcrimsun: I must have mixed date, then. Thanks20:43
crimsunfabrice_sp: well, betafreeze is "tomorrow" for me (currently only 1544 localtime)20:44
k0pcrimsun, updated20:44
crimsunk0p: fair enough20:45
crimsunk0p: thanks, someone from u-u-s will look20:46
k0pu-u-s? universe?20:46
geserubuntu-universe-sponsors20:46
k0pfine :)20:47
k0pcrimsun, btw I was waiting for it some weeks ago..20:47
fabrice_spcrimsun: It's also tomorrow for me too (21:48 here :-) )20:48
k0pI was thinking if I shoud annouce it in somewhere20:48
crimsunk0p: sorry, but I can't help speed it along.  Just try to sit a while; the sponsors generally are overworked, too.  :-)20:49
crimsun(that said, lag time normally isn't too long)20:49
k0pok :)20:49
k0pthanks20:49
geserfabrice_sp: I've just looked at your icedove-dispmua debdiff and it looks ok (on a first glance). Will try to look at it later and upload.20:58
sebnerahoi geser, everything alright? :)20:58
fabrice_spgeser: great! Thanks in advance ;-)20:59
fabrice_spCould you also have a look at Bug #257937?20:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257937 in ebox-ntp "ebox-ntp depends on ntp-server metapackage, which does not exist" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25793720:59
gesersebner: yes, just busy21:02
sebnergeser: as usual :) so I won't interrupt your work. hf :)21:03
geserfabrice_sp: does ebox-ntp also work with openntpd?21:03
fabrice_spgeser: I have to check21:04
lagaDktrKranz: consider yourself hugged for verifying that mythbuntu-control-centre bug21:08
DktrKranzlaga, you're welcome21:09
sebnerlaga: joing motu-release and make DktrKranz happy :P21:13
DktrKranzsebner, motu-sru maybe21:13
DktrKranzand why my shift key doesn't work........21:13
sebnerDktrKranz: argh, true21:14
sebnerDktrKranz: strg-alt-backspace is your friend :P21:14
DktrKranzsebner, not when doing important stuff that deserves a better end than a kill -9 -121:14
sebnerDktrKranz: ^^21:15
lagasebner: i'm not a MOTU :)21:16
sebnerlaga: become one!21:16
lagayeah, i'm working on that, kinda.21:16
sebnerlaga: \o/21:18
fabrice_spgeser: at startup time, this package calls "exec /usr/sbin/ntpd -n -g", and this flags doesn't exists in openntpd, so I would say no, except if we modify the package to use it21:18
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fabrice_sp(about ebox-ntp package)21:19
geserfabrice_sp: thanks for checking21:19
DktrKranzsebner, shut up21:20
* sebner hides21:20
fabrice_spgeser: it was an easy one ;-)21:20
sebnerDktrKranz: Y. R. B. :P21:21
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DktrKranzsebner, lucky you my shift is broken and i can make uppercase letters...21:22
sebnerDktrKranz: hrhr, black magic :)21:22
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directhexis there a written policy anywhere detailing driver backports to LTS releases?21:54
lagaah, mono.ko?21:56
directhexlaga, no, i was more wondering for work22:01
directhexlaga, not mono-related for once! :o22:01
NCommandersiretart, ping22:15
dothebarthy everyone...22:31
dothebartwho 'd be the right one to talk to for http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/citadel-server22:33
dothebart?22:33
dothebarti'd like to do the pulp fiction tomato joke about that...22:34
dothebartcatch up ;-)22:34
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bobbojames_w: ping22:38
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nxvlpochu: ping23:03
pochunxvl: pong23:08
pochunxvl: hi23:08
nxvlpochu: Bug #27417323:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274173 in ubuntu "Please sync terminator 0.11 from debian sid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27417323:17
nxvlpochu: would you like to help me while i don't have my machine on hands23:17
pochunxvl: cool :)23:17
pochunxvl: sure, what does it need?23:18
nxvlpochu: a diffstat23:18
pochunxvl: ok23:18
pochuwill add that in a second23:19
* nxvl HUGS pochu 23:20
nxvlpochu: on your comment please include "no package depends on it" i forgot to add that comment23:22
pochusure23:23
nxvlnellery: hi! how are you doing?23:24
nellerynxvl, hi, alright i think23:24
nxvlnellery: learning new things everyday?23:25
pochunxvl: done23:25
* pochu hugs nxvl back :)23:25
nelleryof course ;)23:26
nxvlpochu: awesome! thanks, now cross your fingers and pray!23:27
james_whey bobbo23:31
bobbohey james_w23:31
bobbojames_w: I saw that bzr 1.7 was released today and you talked about cherrypicking patches from it and adding them to our 1.6.1 package?23:32
nxvljames_w: i send you an e-mail, did you got it?23:32
james_whey nxvl, I did, but I forgot to read it today, sorry.23:33
james_wnxvl: but in principle I say yes23:33
james_wbobbo: I think we should certainly check, but I believe there a couple of important fixes to grab23:34
bobbojames_w: cool, is there anything in particular I could be taking a look at?23:34
james_wbobbo: just read the NEWS file I guess and look for the things that sound important23:35
nxvljames_w: ok, read it, and reply so i can make th announcment :D23:35
james_wbobbo: I'll be doing it myself, but it would be good to get a couple of pairs of eyes on it23:35
james_wnxvl: will do :-)23:35
bobbojames_w: ok, i'll have a look at it tomorrow and see if anything jumps out :)23:35
james_wnxvl: looks good to me23:37
pochugood night folks23:53

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