=== RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === funkyHat is now known as funkyHat|off === superm1|away is now known as superm1 === krusaf|bnc is now known as krusaf === ember_ is now known as ember === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp === macd_ is now known as macd === macd_ is now known as macd [07:50] good morning [07:56] Good morning Daniel. [08:01] hiya iulian [08:12] Guten Morgen dholbach [08:13] hi geser :) === bigon` is now known as bigon [08:23] geser: any new comments on bug 264303? As it is not a new upstream version a FFe shouldn't be needed, right? Or would you still prefer to patch -3 over a sync? [08:23] Launchpad bug 264303 in openafs "Please sync openafs (1.4.7.dfsg1-6) from debian" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264303 [08:36] torkel: no, a ffe is not needed, and with the changes in -6 it's worth syncing. thanks for letting my know. [08:37] geser: thanks. :-) [08:49] !ffe [08:49] uvf is Upstream Version Freeze. For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 [08:51] hm, microreleases aren't documented there. === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === BugMaN1 is now known as BugMaN [09:05] pereira@193.142.125.1] has joined [09:05] roreleases aren't documented there. [09:05] oops, sorry [09:26] any ~motu-release members around? Could you please have a look at the vlc 0.9.2 exception request now that beta freeze is approaching? TIA! === fabo_ is now known as fabo [10:21] slangasek: you accepted cim-schema source in multiverse a few weeks ago, but for some reason the resulting binary package appears in universe. bug ? [10:21] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/cim-schema/2.18.1-0ubuntu1 [10:22] Koon: bug or oversight; from this distance it's hard to tell [10:23] Koon: I accepted the source though, someone else would have accepted the binary (and set the section), I think [10:23] changed now [10:23] slangasek: great ;) [10:24] slangasek: fyi, I'm trying to push some licensing clarification upstream [10:24] that should prove interesting :-) [12:09] slangasek: re your mlt rebuild: it currently FTBFS, see the lp report about that === ara_ is now known as ara [13:40] Hi MOTU's! Would anytwo of you care for reviewing my Tetris for Terminals (tt) package? [13:43] willem-toorop: I'm using konversation [13:43] :p [13:44] hi nxvl === LucidFox_ is now known as LucidFox [14:45] no one has any pending change for u-d-t? (I'm going to upload in some minutes) [14:49] jpds: around? [14:52] I recall some discussion in this channel about the versioning of u-d-t, but was any kind of decision made? [14:53] imo we should return to simple native versioning, without the ubuntu1 bit [14:54] yes, that's what I proposed but someone told me that lintian will complain or something like that [14:55] lintian does get it wrong sometimes. [14:55] yeah, I don't think that is a very good reason :p [14:56] lintian should be fixed to not complain about the missing "ubuntu" bit in the version, if the package is not in debian [15:00] so I'll go without ubuntu1, and if indeed lintian complains, will file a bug [15:21] ubuntu-dev-tools_0.45_source.changes: done. [15:27] and bug #273997 [15:27] Launchpad bug 273997 in lintian "Incorrectly reports an Ubuntu native package as nmu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273997 [15:45] Hello [15:45] Can anyone help me creating a patch for meld ? [15:46] I am new to packaging and can not identify the patch system (if there is any) [15:46] is there a debian/patches directory? [15:46] Adri2000: Pong? [15:46] Yes, there is, but files in there seem not to be included in a build [15:46] At least the patch was not effective [15:47] ThorstenSick: inspect the Build-Depends in debian/control. Does it include either dpatch or quilt? [15:47] jpds: was about u-d-t's versioning, I finally uploaded as 0.45, and filed a bug for lintian's false positives [15:48] It depends on "patch" [15:49] ThorstenSick: then inspect debian/rules for a "patch" target or similar; it looks like a hand-written patch system then [15:49] Adri2000: re: any u-d-t work - not at the moment - I do not have my own computer anymore, so I have limited net time. [15:49] if so, the list of patches to apply might be hardcoded somewhere in debian/rules [15:49] include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk [15:50] that's from CDBS [15:50] so what do you mean with "files in there seem not to be included in a build" [15:51] jpds: ok np, just wanted to ask you because that versioning was started in one of your uploads [15:51] I am trying to learn from th devweek/fixingbugs [15:51] I understand [15:51] I don't understand the above in the context of cdbs though [15:51] Adri2000: RainCT was complaining about NMU lintian errors (or something). [15:52] ThorstenSick: when you don't know the patch system used by a package, you can use the what-patch utility from ubuntu-dev-tools, even though it may not know or be wrong [15:52] azeem:A patch dropped in the patch dir did not fix the biug [15:52] cool [15:52] ThorstenSick: inspect the build log and make sure the patch got applied during bulid [15:52] ThorstenSick: did you create a new source package? How did you test-build it? [15:53] jpds: yeah, that's what I recalled from a discussion here. I filed bug #273997 for that [15:53] Launchpad bug 273997 in lintian "Incorrectly reports an Ubuntu native package as nmu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273997 [15:53] pbuilder [15:53] Adri2000: Great, thanks. [15:53] It was yesterday, ...tracking back... === superm1 is now known as superm1|away [15:57] TheMuso: mpd is failing in intrepid with "E: client-conf-x11.c: XOpenDisplay() failed". according to mpd's wiki, it's something wrong with pulseaudio. do you have any idea of what could be the problem? [15:58] TheMuso: bug #273721, #273586, http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio [15:58] Launchpad bug 273721 in mpd "Segmentation fault when starting mpd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273721 [15:58] Launchpad bug 273586 in mpd "package mpd 0.13.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273586 [15:59] Adri2000: I'll have a look tomorrow, unfortunately I don't have time right now. Off the top of my head I have no idea so I'll have to dig and have a play myself. [15:59] TheMuso: okay, thanks [16:05] azeem: I think yesterday the filename was missing a .patch. At least the log looks a lot better with ".patch" attached. [16:05] hrm, could be [16:08] siretart: why, so it does :/ [16:09] azeem: It works ! Now just add the debdiff as an attachment to the bug ? [16:10] ThorstenSick: I'm not sure what you are trying to do and no expert in that kind of stuff, better ask the whole channel [16:12] I just created my first debdiff. The bug is LP #203033. What to do now ? Attach it to the bug and wait for someone to review it ? [16:12] Launchpad bug 203033 in meld "html not escaped in search" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203033 [16:24] Is a motu here who can please review my patch for LP #203033 [16:24] Launchpad bug 203033 in meld "html not escaped in search" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203033 [16:24] ? [16:27] ThorstenSick: you should break your changelog line before 80 chars, but otherwise it looks good [16:27] what patch system is in use? === lmr is now known as lmr[lunch] === koon is now known as Koon [16:31] james_w: cdbs [16:31] cdbs-simple-patchsys? [16:31] then your change looks fine to me [16:32] ThorstenSick: please subscribe the sponsors team [16:32] "Subscribe someone else" -> ubuntu-universe-sponsors [16:32] james_w: what-patch just says cdbs. this is myfirst debdiff... [16:34] james_w: done...and they will review it ? [16:34] yeah, someone will look at it in the next few days and either ask you to change something, reject it, or upload it. [16:35] Thanks. === chuck_ is now known as zul [16:44] CU === superm1|away is now known as superm1 [16:58] siretart: mlt fix uploaded [17:08] soren, good morning [17:08] It's 6 PM! [17:09] soren: \o/ - Same timezone :D [17:09] soren, ok, good evening [17:09] soren, any issues beside the -dev one with the Xfce 4.6 packages? [17:12] NCommander: It seems the meta key was redefined.. [17:12] NCommander: Sorry, i'm on a phone call right now. [17:13] soren, Oh, sorry. I can't reproduce that one (without lack of trying when you told me about it) [17:13] soren, what keyboard layout do you use :-) [17:13] Danish. [17:13] I guess he's using the Danish one [17:14] soren, I'll report a bug on the Xfce bug tracker that the meta key has been redefined (to what specifically?) === Czessi__ is now known as Czessi === jono_ is now known as jono [17:53] Hi [17:59] would someone be willing to sponsor an upload of system-cleaner for me, from REVU? (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=system-cleaner); compared to the version in intrepid already, it fixes two bugs [17:59] release team (pitti) and doc team have said they're ok with the upload [18:27] any ~motu-release members around? Could you please have a look at the vlc 0.9.2 exception request now that beta freeze is approaching? TIA! [18:30] * jdong adds to the mounting pressure too :) [19:09] DktrKranz: you're on ~motu-release right? ~motumedia would really like the VLC 0.9.2 FFe to be evaluated prior to betafreeze [19:10] jdong, yes. [19:11] I'll have a look at it in some minutes [19:11] thank you very much [19:11] (bug 270404 for reference) [19:11] Launchpad bug 270404 in vlc "Please update VLC to 0.9.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270404 [20:06] DktrKranz: thanks for your vote on vlc. how many further votes do we need? [20:07] siretart, two motu-release ACKs. If I read it correctly, mine is first, so you need another one [20:07] ah === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp [20:14] hi [20:15] I have a patch in queue... someone can apply? [20:19] k0p: bug #? [20:21] #264750 [20:21] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/umit/+bug/264750 [20:21] Ubuntu bug 264750 in umit "umit higwidgets conflits" [Undecided,New] [20:21] wow [20:21] #264750 [20:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/umit/+bug/264750 [20:22] hmm bot doesn't awser :( [20:24] k0p: is it intentional that debian/patches/{root,setup}.patch are also touched but are not mentioned in debian/changelog? [20:25] Hi. Can someone review my debdiff in Bug #272263 and upload if correct? Thanks [20:25] Launchpad bug 272263 in icedove-dispmua "icedove-dispmua: Package has a Depends on icedove (<= 2.0.0.99) which cannot be satisfied in Intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272263 [20:25] fabrice_sp: looking in a sec. [20:25] great! tks crimsun [20:25] fabrice_sp: I can't upload (anymore), but I'll certainly review the diff [20:26] crimsun, did you see last patch? [20:26] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17309092/higwidgets_issue-update.patch [20:26] crimsun: ok. better than nothing ;-) [20:26] k0p: that's the one I applied prior to reviewing [20:27] k0p: ah, I see. The references are there. [20:27] yeah [20:27] I update because I forget update changelog [20:28] updated* [20:28] k0p: looks fine (just trivial whitespace matters in the changelog, but relatively unimportant) [20:29] do you want a update again? [20:30] I can do that but I didn't see whitespace. How people detect it? Many people from motus detects whitespace.. I forget take care with it [20:31] k0p: I suggest updating the debdiff, but that's really up to whomever uploads [20:32] fabrice_sp: looks good. has asac looked at it, too? [20:32] crimsun: asac put a comment in the bug report, but I don't think he had a look at the debdiff [20:33] crimsun, where did you see whitespace? [20:33] (I requested also review in ubuntu-mozillateam, but get no answer...) [20:33] k0p: the topmost (most recent) debian/changelog entry [20:34] hmm [20:34] k0p: mostly alignment issues; see your bottommost (first) debian/changelog entry for the asterisk [20:34] (indentation, really) [20:35] :\ [20:35] crimsun: I think that they had already a lot of work with this firefox 3.0 stuff, and too busy to review my debdiff [20:35] (they = mozillateam) [20:35] fabrice_sp: (right, I'm also there) [20:36] fabrice_sp: perhaps wait a day or so; the u-u-s queue is processed consistently [20:36] crimsun, I didn' see mistakes on identation [20:38] k0p: notice how both "- fixed ..." lines are placed closer to the leading edge (on a left-to-right orientation) than their parents [20:39] grr [20:39] yeah [20:39] but not in my vi [20:39] yeah, I unset tabs and such when I review patches [20:41] crimsun: Won't the beta freeze affect the upload of non 'high' importance bug? [20:42] fabrice_sp: UTC isn't quite at betafreeze yet [20:43] crimsun: I must have mixed date, then. Thanks [20:44] fabrice_sp: well, betafreeze is "tomorrow" for me (currently only 1544 localtime) [20:44] crimsun, updated [20:45] k0p: fair enough [20:46] k0p: thanks, someone from u-u-s will look [20:46] u-u-s? universe? [20:46] ubuntu-universe-sponsors [20:47] fine :) [20:47] crimsun, btw I was waiting for it some weeks ago.. [20:48] crimsun: It's also tomorrow for me too (21:48 here :-) ) [20:48] I was thinking if I shoud annouce it in somewhere [20:49] k0p: sorry, but I can't help speed it along. Just try to sit a while; the sponsors generally are overworked, too. :-) [20:49] (that said, lag time normally isn't too long) [20:49] ok :) [20:49] thanks [20:58] fabrice_sp: I've just looked at your icedove-dispmua debdiff and it looks ok (on a first glance). Will try to look at it later and upload. [20:58] ahoi geser, everything alright? :) [20:59] geser: great! Thanks in advance ;-) [20:59] Could you also have a look at Bug #257937? [20:59] Launchpad bug 257937 in ebox-ntp "ebox-ntp depends on ntp-server metapackage, which does not exist" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257937 [21:02] sebner: yes, just busy [21:03] geser: as usual :) so I won't interrupt your work. hf :) [21:03] fabrice_sp: does ebox-ntp also work with openntpd? [21:04] geser: I have to check [21:08] DktrKranz: consider yourself hugged for verifying that mythbuntu-control-centre bug [21:09] laga, you're welcome [21:13] laga: joing motu-release and make DktrKranz happy :P [21:13] sebner, motu-sru maybe [21:13] and why my shift key doesn't work........ [21:14] DktrKranz: argh, true [21:14] DktrKranz: strg-alt-backspace is your friend :P [21:14] sebner, not when doing important stuff that deserves a better end than a kill -9 -1 [21:15] DktrKranz: ^^ [21:16] sebner: i'm not a MOTU :) [21:16] laga: become one! [21:16] yeah, i'm working on that, kinda. [21:18] laga: \o/ [21:18] geser: at startup time, this package calls "exec /usr/sbin/ntpd -n -g", and this flags doesn't exists in openntpd, so I would say no, except if we modify the package to use it === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [21:19] (about ebox-ntp package) [21:19] fabrice_sp: thanks for checking [21:20] sebner, shut up [21:20] * sebner hides [21:20] geser: it was an easy one ;-) [21:21] DktrKranz: Y. R. B. :P === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl [21:22] sebner, lucky you my shift is broken and i can make uppercase letters... [21:22] DktrKranz: hrhr, black magic :) === lmr_ is now known as lmr === fabrice_sp is now known as fabrice_sp|away [21:54] is there a written policy anywhere detailing driver backports to LTS releases? [21:56] ah, mono.ko? [22:01] laga, no, i was more wondering for work [22:01] laga, not mono-related for once! :o [22:15] siretart, ping [22:31] hy everyone... [22:33] who 'd be the right one to talk to for http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/citadel-server [22:33] ? [22:34] i'd like to do the pulp fiction tomato joke about that... [22:34] catch up ;-) === superm1 is now known as superm1|away [22:38] james_w: ping === fta_ is now known as fta [22:41] fabrice_sp|away: ? === funkyHat|off is now known as funkyHat [23:03] pochu: ping [23:08] nxvl: pong [23:08] nxvl: hi [23:17] pochu: Bug #274173 [23:17] Launchpad bug 274173 in ubuntu "Please sync terminator 0.11 from debian sid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274173 [23:17] pochu: would you like to help me while i don't have my machine on hands [23:17] nxvl: cool :) [23:18] nxvl: sure, what does it need? [23:18] pochu: a diffstat [23:18] nxvl: ok [23:19] will add that in a second [23:20] * nxvl HUGS pochu [23:22] pochu: on your comment please include "no package depends on it" i forgot to add that comment [23:23] sure [23:24] nellery: hi! how are you doing? [23:24] nxvl, hi, alright i think [23:25] nellery: learning new things everyday? [23:25] nxvl: done [23:25] * pochu hugs nxvl back :) [23:26] of course ;) [23:27] pochu: awesome! thanks, now cross your fingers and pray! [23:31] hey bobbo [23:31] hey james_w [23:32] james_w: I saw that bzr 1.7 was released today and you talked about cherrypicking patches from it and adding them to our 1.6.1 package? [23:32] james_w: i send you an e-mail, did you got it? [23:33] hey nxvl, I did, but I forgot to read it today, sorry. [23:33] nxvl: but in principle I say yes [23:34] bobbo: I think we should certainly check, but I believe there a couple of important fixes to grab [23:34] james_w: cool, is there anything in particular I could be taking a look at? [23:35] bobbo: just read the NEWS file I guess and look for the things that sound important [23:35] james_w: ok, read it, and reply so i can make th announcment :D [23:35] bobbo: I'll be doing it myself, but it would be good to get a couple of pairs of eyes on it [23:35] nxvl: will do :-) [23:35] james_w: ok, i'll have a look at it tomorrow and see if anything jumps out :) [23:37] nxvl: looks good to me [23:53] good night folks