[00:37] <flyback> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-bad-seed-isp-atrivo-cut-off-from-rest-of-the-internet.html <--- YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!
[02:00] <FFEMTcJ> does anyone know what package i need to install to take ubuntu server back to its default state?
[02:51] <emgent> zul: around ?
[02:56] <antdedyet> hey dendrobates
[02:56]  * antdedyet heads home, bbiab
[02:59] <emgent> un there is a critial bug in hardy mysql-server
[02:59] <emgent> s/critical/critical/
[03:51] <sommer> kirkland: ping
[04:10] <sommer> kirkland: just fyi, I filed a pkgsel bug #273823
[05:28] <stweston> Does anyone know any commands to use for installing Ubuntu Server thru the Shell?
[05:28] <stweston> because I don't have a CD-R drive that works under the Linux kernel.
[05:28] <stweston> I mean, it boots the CD fine, but nothing works right after loading the linux kernel and it tries to detect the CD-R drive.
[05:29] <Adoleo> stweston: There's a tutorial out on Google somewhere, but I tried it and it was not easy
[05:29] <stweston> oh?
[05:30] <Adoleo> Do you have a USB-key lying around anythwere?
[05:30] <stweston> I have a memory card & USB adapter.
[05:30] <stweston> 1GB, too.
[05:30] <Adoleo> stweston: I found that to be a lot easier to deal with.  1GB is plenty
[05:30] <stweston> ok
[05:30] <Adoleo> stweston: Let me see if I can find the howto I used
[05:30] <stweston> all right.
[05:31] <stweston> Adoleo: wait - is it a liveUSB thing?
[05:31] <Adoleo> stweston: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about
[05:31] <stweston> Adoleo: because that's not going to work, necessarily.
[05:31] <Adoleo> stweston: Won't work for you?
[05:31] <stweston> Adoleo: you see, I'm on a mac, and I need the instructions up so that I don't goof.
[05:31] <Adoleo> Ah - using VMware?
[05:32] <stweston> Adoleo: if I boot into linux (or even re-boot, for that matter) on my mac, it doesn't work. no, it's actually VirtualBox.
[05:32] <stweston> I mean, it kind of defeats the purpose, in a reverse way.
[05:33] <Adoleo> stweston: Okay, I've got some experience with Virtualbox.  You can actually mount the .iso directly from the hard drive with VirtualBox.  You're talking about installing Ubuntu into a virtualized Virtualbox environment, right?
[05:33] <stweston> no.
[05:34] <Adoleo> stweston: Okay, I'm confused then.  :-)
[05:34] <stweston> I'm talking about installing ubuntu server (or xubuntu) onto another machine, which doesn't have a good cd-r drive.
[05:34] <stweston> I have the cmd line up and everything for server.
[05:34] <stweston> but it's just on the CD
[05:35] <Adoleo> stweston: Okay, now I'm starting to understand.  Are you looking for a way to install Ubuntu over your network connection, then?
[05:35] <stweston> I DO, however, have an ethernet cable.
[05:35] <stweston> I suppose...
[05:36] <stweston> the box doesn't have wi-fi, but I've got ethernet hooked up
[05:36] <stweston> and the mac has wi-fi
[05:36] <Adoleo> stweston: Okay, then this is what I was thinking of initially.  A netinst is not pretty, but it's possible.
[05:37] <stweston> okay
[05:37] <stweston> I think I understood that when I first tried... LOL
[05:37] <stweston> but I'm not even sure if I got the first step
[05:38] <stweston> =)
[05:38] <Adoleo> stweston: I'm looking for the tutorial I tried before.
[05:38] <stweston> all right
[05:38] <Adoleo> stweston: Is your server box operational on the network - does it have a working operating system right now?
[05:39] <stweston> it has Windows 98, but it doesn't work w/ the ethernet for some reason.... can't find the driver.
[05:39] <stweston> and w/o wi-fi, it doesn't work for sure.
[05:39] <stweston> I mean, it for sure doesn't work.
[05:39] <Adoleo> stweston: Okay, this is definitely not going to be easy without a working CD drive.  You can do a netinst from an SSH connection, but that's only if another version of Linux is already installed.
[05:40] <stweston> hm...
[05:40] <stweston> nope. I have ubuntu on a VM on my mac, tho
[05:40] <Adoleo> stweston: Have you tried re-burning the install disc in case there were errors on the media?  I've had that problem before.
[05:40] <stweston> I have - many times - for both server and xubuntu.
[05:41] <Adoleo> stweston: That's good that you have Ubuntu on the mac, but without something to connect to on the server machine there's not much to work with.
[05:41] <stweston> aah
[05:41] <stweston> what do you mean?
[05:41] <stweston> the ethernet is plugged in on the PC, and with linux, it might even have the right drivers.
[05:42] <Adoleo> stweston: Okay, let me switch gears then.  On your server PC, are you able to get far enough in the installation to reach the console?
[05:42] <stweston> yes
[05:43] <stweston> I'm there already, in fact.
[05:43] <stweston> you mean the ~ #?
[05:43] <Adoleo> stweston: Okay, do you know if it has a working net connection?  Can you ping a random site like Yahoo.com?
[05:43] <stweston> not sure... don't know how
[05:43] <stweston> I'm new to linux, kinda.
[05:44] <Adoleo> stweston: Got it, we all have to start somewhere.  :-)  Try this in the command line: ping yahoo.com
[05:44] <stweston> okay
[05:44] <Adoleo> After it hits yahoo.com a few times, hit CTRL+C to stop it
[05:44] <stweston> okay
[05:44] <stweston> "host name lookup failure"
[05:44] <Adoleo> Okay, no net connectino.
[05:45] <stweston> so, there isn't a connection... yeath
[05:45] <stweston> yeah*
[05:45] <stweston> how would I find the ethernet card?
[05:45] <stweston> I just installed it today, so that might be a problem.
[05:46] <Adoleo> That's an automatic part of the installation, but it needs to load some packages before that works.  If it can't access the CD, then it can't access those packages.
[05:46] <stweston> aah
[05:46] <stweston> well, I'll go back to prompt F1, then...
[05:46] <stweston> the error there is "no common cd-rom drive was detected"
[05:47] <stweston> ... you may need to load drivers form a driver floppy.
[05:47] <stweston> so, is that a problem?
[05:47] <Adoleo> stweston: Yeah, that's definitely it.  Got a few extra dollars to buy a new CDR?  :-)
[05:48] <stweston> not exactly... more in the negative many extra dollars.
[05:48] <stweston> I still need to pay back my mom for some purchases (she has all my money, and I'm still a kid)
[05:48] <stweston> well, I'm a teenager, but that's kind of a kid.
[05:49] <stweston> I mean - she has access to all my money.
[05:49] <Adoleo> stweston: :-)  Got it.  We've all been there.
[05:49] <stweston> LOL
[05:49] <Adoleo> stweston: Got some floppy disks lying around?
[05:49] <stweston> yeah. why? I don't know how to load them if I just have my mac and a semi-functional win 98.
[05:50] <Adoleo> stweston: I might be able to find a good tutorial
[05:50] <stweston> okay
[05:50] <stweston> well, that's useful
[05:51] <Adoleo> stweston: Here we go - with this tutorial, you first install Debian using floppies, and then use that to install Ubuntu
[05:51] <Adoleo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[05:52] <Adoleo> stweston: Since you're still learning Linux, though, you'll probably have to try this one a few times before it works.  Make sure to set aside a few hours and expect it to break a few times.
[05:52] <stweston> wait - do I need to use the floppies in win98 or what?
[05:52] <stweston> okay
[05:53] <Adoleo> stweston: Does your mac not have a floppy drive?
[05:53] <stweston> no. it's a new MacBook
[05:53] <Adoleo> stweston: lol - you're hitting roadblocks at every turn
[05:53] <stweston> not even a PS/1 port
[05:53] <stweston> LOL. I know
[05:54] <Adoleo> stweston: I hate to tell you this, but you might want to wait until you can get a hold of a replacement CD-ROM drive.
[05:55] <stweston> all right. that's what others have said, too.
[05:55] <stweston> thanks for the help, anyway! I just got a reply for a forum topic about drivers for this CD drive!!
[05:56] <Adoleo> stweston: Nice - hopefully that will turn out to be a good lead.  Good luck
[05:56] <stweston> yup
[05:56] <stweston> thanks!
[05:56] <stweston> 1 final note, tho
[05:56] <stweston> these people in the Ubuntu community are REALLY helpful
[05:57] <Adoleo> stweston: I'm glad to hear it!  I think we're all just thrilled that we get this fantastic software for free, and we all want to pay it forward.
[05:57] <stweston> yeah
[05:57] <stweston> that's sweet
[05:57] <Adoleo> stweston: That's what Open Source is built on
[05:57] <stweston> I know!
[05:57] <stweston> see ya, then.
[05:58]  * hads likes friendly people
[05:58]  * Adoleo does too
[06:11] <codeape> hey guys, i'm having a very bizarre problem on a fresh install of Hardy 8.04.1 -- I can ssh to my box fine, but scp simply hangs. I can't even do a basic "ssh user@host uname" - it just hangs. any ideas?
[06:24] <ASASA> hellooo any one can help me???
[06:25]  * ASASA any one live!!
[06:31]  * Adoleo is live
[06:31]  * Adoleo is breathing
[06:31]  * Adoleo wants to go to bed, though.  :-)
[06:52] <codeape> hopefully someone can help -- very weird SSH problem. sshing to my hardy server box works fine, I get a shell no problems; whenever I try to SCP or include a command as an argument (ie ssh user@host uname), it simply hangs and doesn't do anything
[07:22] <Theban> I'm installing phpbb2 on my Ubuntu Server 8.04 and it's stopped on "Creating MySQL tables if they don't exist yet"
[07:22] <Theban> it's created 30 tables and isn't doing anything anymore
[07:23] <Theban> thoughts?
[07:44] <Ergo^> hello
[07:44] <Ergo^> ﻿hello, i needed to send mail from my server via smtp (mailboxes are handled by google), so i installed postfix, i chose "internet site" during setup do i need to configure it further, so its secure , or can i leave it as it is now after install ?
[07:53] <kgoetz> Theban: how are you installing?
[07:53] <Theban> sudo aptitude install phpbb2
[07:53] <Theban> i have no gui what-so-ever
[07:53] <kgoetz> Ergo^: thought about something like ssmtp? If the bugs dont worry you, its nice and small
[07:54] <Ergo^> kgoetz: well id rather stick with more "standard" solutions for now.
[07:54] <kgoetz> Theban: so im following you - apt has still not returned you to your CLI?
[07:54] <Theban> CLI?
[07:54] <kgoetz> Theban: command line
[07:55] <Theban> ah yes
[07:55] <Theban> it's just stopped
[08:19] <chmac> Is there a standard command that works across all distros to figure out what distro you're on?
[08:20] <Theban> O_O
[08:20] <Theban> good question
[08:24] <chmac> Theban: :)
[08:30] <scuser> hi all, I'm using ubuntu 8.04 and I want to install login.kbr5, does anyone know which package should I install ?
[08:34] <soren> krb5-rsh-server
[08:38] <kraut> moin
[08:42] <scuser> soren:  ok done, how can I use it ?
[08:46] <soren> scuser: What do you mean?
[08:47] <scuser> soren: I mean that I've created some users such as admin/admin and I want to authenticate them using kerberos
[08:49] <slangasek> authenticate them remotely, or locally?
[08:49] <Theban> when i type something like a command with --help and it shows a bunch of info
[08:50] <Theban> how can i see it so i don't miss the top of it
[08:50] <Theban> gets cut off
[08:51] <soren> Theban: "something --help | less"
[08:51] <scuser> slangasek: locally
[08:51] <_ruben> use shift-pageup to scroll up? :)
[08:51] <chmac> Theban: You mean how do you see the whole screen? You can't scroll?
[08:51] <slangasek> scuser: typically one uses pam_krb5 for that
[08:51] <Theban> i have no gui
[08:51] <slangasek> i.e., the libpam-krb5 package
[08:51] <Theban> need to see it by page or soemthing
[08:51] <chmac> Theban: If you're running in screen you can ctrl-ESC and then page up / down to go back / forward
[08:52] <_ruben> Theban: the console has a scrollback buffer as well
[08:52] <chmac> Theban: blah --help | less as soren said, or shft-pgup/pgdn
[08:52] <Theban> oh sorry
[08:52] <_ruben> Theban: but per page: somecommand | more
[08:55] <ropetin> Does anyone have experience with rsyslog?
[08:55] <Ergo^> ﻿http://paste2.org/p/78076 - is it safe how i set up my hostname, origin and destination ?
[08:56] <scuser> slangasek: but I couldn't find pam_krb5 after I've installed libpam-krb5, any ideas
[08:58] <slangasek> scuser: it's not a command, it's a pam module.  You have to configure /etc/pam.d/common-* to use it; there are probably howtos somewhere that explain it
[08:58] <slangasek> sorry, I don't know the locations of any off-hand
[08:59] <scuser> slangasek: ok thanks for the hint anyway I'll try to search for it, thanks for your time :)
[09:15] <Theban> sorry for the silly question but what is the command for making a folder readonly to a user but still full access for root?
[09:21] <ropetin> Theban: Do you want it to be readonly to all users or just one in particular?
[09:22] <sh4lindev> chown root folder; chmod 644 folder
[09:22] <Theban> read-only to the user that currently has read/write privs
[09:23] <ropetin> What sh4lindev just mentioned will give the owner read/write, the group and world read only
[09:23] <ropetin> Does that do what you want?
[09:24] <Theban> so it will change the owner to root and make everyone else read-only
[09:24] <Theban> ?
[09:24] <ropetin> No, you would need to 'chown root:root filename' to change the owner
[09:25] <Theban> ok, so i have a folder in which a user owns and has read/write permissions
[09:25] <Theban> i want that user to have read-only permissions
[09:26] <ropetin> so 'chown -R root:root /folder/location;
[09:26] <ropetin> ' sorry
[09:26] <ropetin> Then do what sh4lindev mentioned
[09:28] <Theban> chown -R root:root /folder/location && chown root /folder/location && chmod 644 /folder/location
[09:28] <Theban> yes?
[09:29] <ropetin> don't need the middle chown
[09:29] <Theban> ok
[09:30] <Theban> chown -R root:root /folder/location && chmod 644 /folder/location
[09:30] <Theban> all good?
[09:31] <ropetin> Yup
[09:32] <Theban> tyvm
[09:33] <ropetin> NP!
[10:03] <gianni> hi
[10:03] <gianni> i have 3 pc (10.1.1.101 SERVER - 10.1.1.102 client1 - 10.1.1.1003 client2) can i configure my server vpn for talk with client1 and client2? my actual daemon config file is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/50014/
[10:07] <ikonia> gianni: if they are both on the same vpn - they will be able to see each other
[10:08] <gianni> ikonia the question is: how can i configure the client2 in openvpn server conf file ?
[10:08] <gianni> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/50014/
[10:08] <gianni> client2 is 10.1.1.103
[10:09] <ikonia> gianni you shouldn't need to
[10:09] <ikonia> gianni: if you make a vpn connection to the same network - you should be on that network
[10:09] <gianni> ikonia please see conf file..
[10:10] <ikonia> I've just looked
[10:10] <ikonia> what vpn daemon are you using ?
[10:10] <Deeps> gianni: you need to read the openvpn howto for multiple clients
[10:10] <ikonia> is your network offering dhcp ?
[10:10] <gianni> it make a vpn to 10.1.1.101 (server) to 10.1.1.102 (client1)
[10:10] <Deeps> gianni: as you're currently configured for a single client on a static key
[10:10] <gianni> deeps true.. i should conf it for two client
[10:10] <gianni> with single key
[10:11] <gianni> how can i change my conf ? some suggest ?
[10:11] <Deeps> gianni: http://openvpn.net/howto.html#pki
[10:11] <Deeps> gianni: read the howto, it's a long process
[10:11] <Deeps> gianni: section: "Setting up your own Certificate Authority (CA) and generating certificates and keys for an OpenVPN server and multiple clients"
[10:12] <ikonia> Deeps: good guide
[10:12] <gianni> uhm..
[10:12] <gianni> i cant use same key with no cert for all clients ?
[10:12] <ikonia> gianni: read that guide, it's excellent
[10:12] <ikonia> I'd forgot about that guide
[10:12] <Deeps> gianni: read the howto, it explains everything in full detail
[10:13] <gianni> i saw that but dont reply to my question.
[10:13] <Deeps> gianni: and you'll get better answers from that guide than you will from irc
[10:13] <Deeps> gianni: it does, read it from the start.
[10:13] <gianni> my question is: It`s possible make a VPN with 1 server and 2 client with onlyone key and no cert ecc. ?
[10:14] <ikonia> gianni: the guide gives you the config to use
[10:14] <gianni> if so, what i should change in my conf?
[10:14] <gianni> ikonia false..
[10:14] <hads> It does.
[10:14] <gianni> guide dont reply to it..
[10:14] <gianni> guide say make cert, make keys bla bla bla..
[10:14] <gianni> other method.
[10:14] <Theban> howto remove a folder that is not empty?
[10:15] <ikonia> Theban: -rf
[10:15] <Theban> ty
[10:15] <hads> -r alone is probably a better start :)
[10:15] <ikonia> gianni: thats the correct method to use
[10:15] <Theban> oh?
[10:15] <gianni> ikonia but my question is different.
[10:15] <ikonia> Theban: -f =force
[10:15] <ikonia> gianni: no it's not
[10:15] <ikonia> gianni: you need to setup the certs
[10:16] <gianni> ikonia yes it is
[10:16] <gianni> no it isnt
[10:16] <gianni> i can use single key too.
[10:16] <hads> Then OpenVPN docs on their site are pretty good. I've read through them and they do cover what you're asking.
[10:16] <ikonia> gianni: I'm scan reading it now - and to get multiple clients running you'll need to set up a multiple client config that is the certificate method in that guide
[10:16] <ikonia> gianni: if you know you can use a single key - why are you asking if you can
[10:17] <gianni> ikonia because i dont know how to edit my conf
[10:17] <Theban> sudo rmdir -r folder
[10:17] <Theban> ?
[10:17] <ikonia> gianni: but that guide says to not do that
[10:17] <gianni> theban rm -rf folder
[10:17] <hads> Theban: Correct. Be careful with that though.
[10:17] <ikonia> Theban: sorry rm -r dir
[10:18] <Theban> ty
[10:18] <hads> Of course I can't read, what ikonia said.
[10:18] <gianni> ikonia: i dont found it..
[10:19] <ikonia> gianni: follow the guide - or don't - it's up to you
[10:19] <ikonia> gianni: that guide is excellent though and from the official site and is giving you the "correct" way to do this
[10:20] <gianni> ikonia if i use this method i have one motivation.
[10:20] <gianni> and this howto dont reply to my question.
[10:21] <ikonia> gianni: contact open vpn support methods then
[10:21] <gianni> ...........
[10:21] <ikonia> gianni: you've been given the correct answer for how to achieve what you want
[10:30] <Theban> i need to give a file read access by anyone
[10:30] <Theban> what is the chmod for that?
[10:30] <henkjan> chmod a+r
[10:31] <henkjan> sorr
[10:31] <henkjan> sorry
[10:31] <Theban> ?
[10:31] <henkjan> thats wrong
[10:31] <Theban> do you know it?
[10:31] <slangasek> no, it isn't
[10:32] <henkjan> okay, a+r works
[10:32] <henkjan> but a-r removes read access for everyone
[10:32] <slangasek> yes, + is the opposite of - ?
[10:34] <Theban> i'm guessing a+w is write then? lol
[10:34] <slangasek> yes.  perhaps you would find it helpful to read the chmod manpage?
[10:34] <Theban> good point ^_^
[10:35] <Theban> thx much
[10:35] <Theban> does vncviewer work only if the computer your connecting to has a gui?
[10:35] <ropetin> Theban: Yup
[10:36] <ropetin> Otherwise, ssh is probably better
[10:36] <Theban> can windows ssh to a linux server?
[10:37] <gianni> sure google putty.exe
[10:37] <ropetin> Yup yup!  PuTTY is a popular client
[11:12] <marc-andre> hiho
[11:12] <Theban> hi
[11:12] <marc-andre> i search for a simple solution to monitor in the console my apache2
[11:13] <marc-andre> i remember under my old Gentoo server i had something included in my apache installation
[11:13] <hads> Monitor how?
[11:13] <marc-andre> how many forks are running, how many clients are connected, this kind of stats
[11:15] <hads> I did run across something like that once. Can't recall the name off the top of my head
[11:16] <marc-andre> i found apachetop, but its not what i am looking for
[11:22] <Theban> how can i have my ubuntu server run a mount command on startup?
[11:24] <hads> Theban: Typically if you want to mount something at startup you'd put it in /etc/fstab
[11:25] <Theban> just edit fstab and add the mount line as i would type it?
[11:25] <Theban> err wait
[11:25] <Theban> nvm
[11:25] <Theban> forget i said that haha
[11:25] <hads> :)
[11:25] <hads> man fstab and the comments in it will show you
[14:09] <ghaleb_> hello, my freeradius server accept login from radtest using LDAP, but from NAS it doesn't .. saying:rlm_ldap: Attribute "User-Password" is required for authentication.
[14:13] <sommer> ghaleb_: can you configure the NAS to use the userPassword attribute?
[14:18] <ghaleb_> sommer: I don't think so,  the NAS is  a wireless  access point
[14:40] <zzgvh> Dunno if anyone remebers me from yesterday, I'm trying to set up a hardy server host with several virtual hardy server guests. I managed to get one guest working with ubuntu-vm-builder and some fudging. After that I used virt-clone to create another guest. The guests have static IP numbers and I had to change eth0 to eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces to get networking to play ball. So now I can start one guest and ssh to it on t
[14:42] <henkjan> zzgvh: look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[14:48] <zzgvh> Hehe...I've been there. Problem is I don't understand it ;-) Not a ubuntu guru...so I don't know what to look for. There's config info there for eth0 and eth1 with different MACs, all other attributes look the same
[14:53] <kirkland> sommer: i'm looking at it now
[14:53] <zzgvh> Alternatively, is there some other way to create clones from a master VM? I'm just looking for a way ahead here, it doesn't have to be using virt-clone
[14:57] <sommer> kirkland: cool, I think cjwatson may have fixed it... unattended-upgrades package not on the server cd, or something like that
[14:57] <kirkland> sommer: just saw that :-)
[14:57] <kirkland> sommer: thanks for the report and heads up
[14:57] <sommer> kirkland: no problem
[15:06] <kirkland> nxvl: could you perhaps help translate bug #273731?  :-)
[15:12] <nxvl> kirkland: working on it
[15:13] <kirkland> nxvl: thanks, dude
[15:14] <nxvl> kirkland: heh, you don't really want me to translate it
[15:14] <nxvl> :P
[15:14] <nxvl> it's not a bug
[15:14] <nxvl> it's a complaing about "why do i need to write password, isn't this a free OS"
[15:14] <kirkland> nxvl: :-)  nice, would you respond and close it?
[15:14] <kirkland> nxvl: ???
[15:15] <nxvl> yup
[17:25] <RediXe> mySQL default port is 3306?
[17:26] <thefish> RediXe: yep
[17:26] <RediXe> thefish, thx
[18:46] <kopa> alias
[18:48] <ivoks> nxvl: thank you for the comment on the bacula bug :D
[18:49] <nxvl> ivoks: :D i have ROFL reading that bug
[18:49] <nxvl> is just "complain, complain complain complain"
[18:49] <nxvl> and in funny ways
[18:50] <nxvl> and about unimportant stuff
[18:51] <ivoks> i tought its the same bug as the one with mysql
[18:51] <ivoks> the on for mysql was in german :D
[18:53] <nxvl> this one says: "why is this so difficult, why it ask me a password, isn't free? internet should be free for everyone"
[18:53] <nxvl> and it was just gksu asking for her password
[18:54] <ivoks> nah... during install, one must provide password for pgsql user :)
[18:54] <nxvl> then it's that
[18:54] <nxvl> she was complaining about a password "that noone tolds me which it is"
[18:54] <ivoks> maybe it's a but in translation
[18:55] <ivoks> maybe it isn't clear that user should provide a password
[18:55] <ivoks> s/but/bug/ :D
[18:55] <nxvl> maybe
[18:55] <nxvl> i don't have any spanish system on hands
[18:55] <nxvl> and i don't want one
[18:55] <nxvl> :D
[18:55] <ivoks> :)
[19:45] <bdmurray> Who hanles the print server?
[19:49] <mathiaz> bdmurray: noone in particular - what's your issue ?
[19:49] <bdmurray> mathiaz: bug 254581
[19:50] <mathiaz> bdmurray: right
[19:51] <mathiaz> bdmurray: why do you ask ?
[19:54] <bdmurray> mathiaz: I was just reviewing that reporter's bugs
[21:20] <melter> i have a server w/ 2 scsi cards, 2 drives on each (4 total); how do i get the installer to install a mbr?
[21:44] <melter> is there a step-by-step, detailed document for installing ubuntu server?
[21:48] <mathiaz> !serverguide | melter
[21:52] <nxvl> sommer: btw, i was looking for an opevpn guide yesterday and i noticed that we haven't one on the server guide, any plans for it?
[21:52] <lamont> nxvl: say like a link to openvpn's howto?
[21:53] <nxvl> lamont: i'm not sure about linking external howto's into the server guid
[21:53] <nxvl> guide*
[21:53] <sommer> nxvl: I didn't have any plans for intrepid, but might not be a bad idea for jaunty
[21:54] <nxvl> sommer: :D
[21:54] <nxvl> sommer: if it's on your ToDo list i'm happy
[21:54] <sommer> nxvl: the idea is now on the list
[21:55]  * nxvl HUGS sommer 
[21:57] <melter> mathiaz: is that all? nothing step-by-step, including how to configure grub?
[21:58] <mathiaz> melter: the installer should take care of installing grub correctly (at least on the primary disk in your case)
[21:58] <melter> mathiaz: it's not, though
[21:58] <melter> i tried booting from all 4 drives, one by one, and none has a mbr
[21:59] <melter> i tried running the grub install from the menu, but it doesn't prompt me
[21:59] <melter> this is happening on 2 of my 4 servers
[21:59] <melter> so it's not just 1 server
[22:02] <mathiaz> melter: but the installer correctly detects your four drives and is able to install the system on one of them ?
[22:04] <nxvl> melter: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/installing-from-cd.html
[22:05] <melter> mathiaz: yes, i'm splitting the install across all 4, no problem
[22:05] <melter> everything works great, but i just can't boot
[22:06] <nxvl> melter: did it promts grub on install?
[22:06] <nxvl> err
[22:06] <nxvl> on boot
[22:07] <melter> no
[22:07] <nxvl> not even that?
[22:07] <melter> i have an old lilo boot from a previous install, it finds that, but just prints "L 99 99 99....."
[22:07] <mathiaz> melter: right - so you're using a RAID setup ?
[22:07] <melter> but that's supposed to be overwritten, because the system it's looking for no longer exists
[22:08] <melter> mathiaz: no, one drive has /, one has /home, one has /usr/local, and one has /boot, swap, and /opt
[22:09] <melter> no raid, no lvm, no encryption, nothing fancy, just plain old ext3 (ext2 for /boot)
[22:10] <mathiaz> melter: why do you want to put /boot on its own drive ?
[22:10] <melter> mathiaz: /boot, /opt, and swap are three partitions on the smaller drive
[22:13] <mathiaz> melter: try to put /boot on the same drive as / - your setup may confuse the installer.
[22:13] <melter> mathiaz: ok, i'll give that a shot
[22:18] <bdmurray> mathiaz: is that print-server bug not that important or ?
[22:19] <FFEMTcJ> i was told that there is something i can install from the repos  that will take my server install back to default.. does anyone know anything about this?
[22:19] <mathiaz> bdmurray: it's a suggestion that should be discussed - but it's not critical.
[22:20] <bdmurray> mathiaz: I'll set the importance to Low? to reflect that then
[22:21] <mathiaz> bdmurray: wfm
[22:22] <mathiaz> sommer: I'm reviewing the ldap section of the server guide.
[22:22] <mathiaz> sommer: I think the usage of slapadd should be replaced with ldapadd in the section about ldap population
[22:22] <mathiaz> sommer: so that you don't have to stop the server when adding new entries.
[22:24] <infinity> mathiaz: Nonsense, slapcat/sed/slapadd are the way and the light!
[22:24] <infinity> mathiaz: (And this is why no one lets me administer LDAP systems...)
[22:41] <melter> mathiaz: i got rid of /boot, and it still doesn't work
[23:29] <sommer> mathiaz: sounds reasonable, I'll update the commands