[00:01] <savmuni> for layout switch try ALT+space bar
[00:03] <stweston> I need help figuring out how to install xubuntu while also stopping initramfs.
[00:04] <stweston> anyone?
[00:04] <genius_> savmuni: how to change that sequence?
[00:05] <savmuni> umm
[00:06] <stweston> what?
[00:06] <stweston> I know how to change the boot sequence.
[00:06] <savmuni> next to the time/date there is a keyboard icon try that
[00:07] <stweston> hm...
[00:07] <savmuni> stwetson: diff question
[00:07] <stweston> oh...
[00:07] <stweston> LOL
[00:08] <stweston> sorry
[00:09] <stweston> could somebody please answer my question?
[00:09] <stweston> wait - you don't have to... I need to go.
[00:26] <youplazou> hi
[00:32] <youplazou> hi bloodboy
[00:37] <flyback> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-bad-seed-isp-atrivo-cut-off-from-rest-of-the-internet.html <--- YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!
[00:38] <stweston>  need help getting the initramfs prompts to stop. I'm trying to install Xubuntu Hardy, and this always happens.
[00:42] <stweston> hello? anyone?
[00:47] <stweston> I need help installing xubuntu hardy. the initramfs prompt keeps coming up, and I don't know how to avoid it.
[00:47] <FactTech> Hello, all -- anyone have time to help with with a quick samba problem debug?
[00:48] <FactTech> stweston -- Are you able to complete the boot, or are you stuck at the initramfs window?
[00:48] <stweston> I can complete the boot, it boots into the load screen (it's a CD, BTW), but once I get to initramfs, there's no going back... as far as I know.
[00:49] <FactTech> stweston -- No prompt?
[00:49] <stweston> It has the busybox intro with the (initramfs) prompt.
[00:50] <stweston> is there, like, a boot operation that can be used?
[00:50] <FactTech> stweston -- I've seen a similar issue before. The problem was that a bad module was being loaded for IDE control. I think you can try "modprobe ide_generic" or maybe "ide-generic" and see if it continues.
[00:50] <stweston> all right.
[00:50] <FactTech> stweston -- At the busybox prompt you can load modules.
[00:50] <stweston> I'll see about it. modules?
[00:51] <stweston> such as "modprobe..."?
[00:51] <FactTech> stweston -- If that works, you just have to set up something to force use of the generic module on boot... I forget how it's done but it's not too hard.
[00:51] <stweston> ok
[00:51] <stweston> I don't have files to work with, BTW. it's just the CD so far.
[00:51] <stweston> not on the HDD.
[00:51] <FactTech> stweston -- What kind of hardware are you trying to boot on?
[00:52] <stweston> how do you use modules on the busybox prompt? and it's a custom, but old, computer.
[00:52] <stweston> can you provide an example?
[00:52] <FactTech> stweston -- Busybox emulates a limited number of commands. I think "lsmod" will work. Try it.
[00:52] <stweston> all right.
[00:52] <stweston> loading the kernel...
[00:53] <FactTech> stweston -- I load Xubuntu on old computers all the time. How old are we talking?
[00:53] <stweston> I don't know. lotsa advanced/bad parts.
[00:53] <stweston> I have oodles of RAM
[00:53] <stweston> 4.3GB of disk space...
[00:53] <FactTech> stweston -- Has another OS been able to boot on it OK?
[00:53] <stweston> yes. Win 98
[00:54] <stweston> ok. I'm there.
[00:54] <stweston> what's the format?
[00:54] <stweston> lsmod ...
[00:54] <FactTech> stweston -- Just like a regular prompt.
[00:54] <stweston> I don't know linux very well. sorry
[00:54] <FactTech> stweston -- "lsmod" is all by itself. It will LiSt the MODules.
[00:54] <stweston> all rgiht
[00:54] <FactTech> stweston -- that are loaded
[00:54] <stweston> I see.
[00:55] <stweston> it comes up with /bin/sh: lsmod: not found
[00:55] <FactTech> stweston -- Oh, bummer.
[00:55] <FactTech> stweston -- Maybe it's not supported.
[00:55] <stweston> the line starts w/ (initramfs)
[00:55] <stweston> hm...
[00:55] <stweston> or is it the CD drive?
[00:55] <FactTech> stweston -- just try "modprobe ide_generic"
[00:55] <stweston> I've had trouble w/ Server, as well.
[00:55] <stweston> I'll do that..
[00:55] <FactTech> Well, it's clearly booting from the CD to get to that point, so something is working.
[00:55] <stweston> ok
[00:55] <stweston> it works!
[00:55] <stweston> I think...
[00:55] <stweston> well, it listed something.
[00:56] <FactTech> stweston -- What did it say?
[00:56] <stweston> ide0: I/O resource ... not free
[00:56] <stweston> ide0 ports already in use...
[00:56] <stweston> ide1 I/O resource not free...
[00:56] <stweston> ide1 (same thing as 2nd ide0)
[00:57] <FactTech> stweston -- Well, the issue may not be the IDE controller. I think it's basically saying the IDE stuff is already loaded and working.
[00:57] <stweston> hm...
[00:57] <stweston> so, I need a new HDD?
[00:57] <iglo1> would someone be able to assist me with a boot problem?
[00:57] <FactTech> stweston -- There is very probably some other module you will have to force load, instead.
[00:57] <stweston> hm...
[00:57] <stweston> ok
[00:57] <stweston> such as?
[00:57] <stweston> you mean, in the boot parameters?
[00:57] <stweston> or boot options?
[00:57] <FactTech> stweston , iglol -- Nobody very experienced seems to be on right now. I'm heading over to #ubuntu (where they will usually help), and I suggest you do the same.
[00:58] <FactTech> stweston -- This would be after boot parameters, I think.
[00:58] <stweston> ok
[00:58] <stweston> you mean right here?
[00:58] <FactTech> stweston -- /etc/modules, maybe? Can't remember if it changed in Hardy.
[00:58] <stweston> ok
[00:58] <stweston> not found
[00:58] <FactTech> This is the channel #xubuntu. You should join #ubuntu instead.
[00:58] <stweston> ok
[00:58] <stweston> I"m there.
[00:58] <FactTech> stweston -- I don't think busybox will see /etc/modules -- that would be after you got it installed.
[00:59] <stweston> ok...
[00:59] <stweston> I see.
[00:59] <FactTech> stweston -- Good luck... it's painful to learn sometimes, but have patience.
[00:59] <stweston> thanks, anyway!
[04:14] <cheeseboy> hi
[04:14] <cheeseboy> for some reason FF isnt rembering my bookmarks
[04:14] <cheeseboy> anyone else having that problem?
[04:16] <Odd-rationale> cheeseboy: ff3?
[04:16] <cheeseboy> think so
[04:17] <Odd-rationale> cheeseboy: hmm... what addons do you have?
[04:17] <cheeseboy> ubuntu firefox modifications
[04:20] <Odd-rationale> cheeseboy: well, i;m not sure what could be the problem... try the firefox support channels/forum...
[04:26] <_i_love> how do a remote x11 using putty
[04:27] <Odd-rationale> _i_love: from windows?
[04:27] <_i_love> yes
[04:27] <Odd-rationale> _i_love: you will ned to have an xserver running on windows...
[04:27] <Odd-rationale> *need
[04:27] <_i_love> i have xaming
[04:29] <_i_love> sorry xming
[04:29] <Odd-rationale> _i_love: you will probably have to read the docs on the xming website (http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/) as i have not done the precess myself...
[04:30] <Odd-rationale> i prefer nxserver, btw...
[04:30] <_i_love> ok thx
[04:58] <iglo1> anyone know of an alternative way to enable wireless on eeepc other than the hard power cycling?
[05:05] <stweston> I need help finding a way to install a CD-ROM driver for xubuntu to install.
[05:06] <stweston> or Server, either one.
[05:13] <Mannequi2> hi. how does the Update Manager work related to packages that I've "manually" installed using aptitude form CLI?
[06:01] <oof> hello
[06:02] <oof> i have just installed a new sata controller card and its giving me lots of errors when i boot
[06:09] <oof> at first it dropped me to a busybox shell and told me to boot with irqpoll so i did and now it boots all the way but gives tons of error messages and takes 5-10 minutes to boot
[06:11] <oof> here is the output of dmesg | grep -i ata: http://pastebin.com/fec15bb0
[06:23] <cje> Hi, I am using xchat, and I would like to add a server.
[06:24] <The-Kernel> cje ask in #xchat
[06:24] <oof> xchat -> network list -> add
[06:26] <cje> oof, thx, I tried xchat > network list > add , but what gets added is "New Network" rather than the server that I am attempting to add.
[06:27] <oof> heh, you need to replace new network with whatever name u want to call it and then click edit to set up the server and stuff
[06:34] <genius> how to map keyboard  layout switch on win key?
[06:34] <cje> oof thx, but this is just not working.  i will head over to xchat, because The-Kernel  suggested I do so.  Thx for your help
[08:18] <joeyramone> hey guys
[08:18] <joeyramone> can anyone help me with installing ubuntu?
[08:18] <joeyramone> i just have like 2 questions
[08:19] <knome> just ask :)
[08:19] <joeyramone> ok i did advance install, becuase im running mac osx on my harddrive and i want to partition a section off to install ubuntu on
[08:19] <joeyramone> when i create a partition on free space
[08:20] <joeyramone> with the prepared ubuntu partitioner that came with the auto install off the live cd
[08:20] <knome> yes
[08:20] <joeyramone> im not sure what  to "use as" and what "mount point" to put into the fields
[08:20] <knome> you need at least /
[08:21] <joeyramone> ok when i tryed that one
[08:21] <knome> and you can format is as ext3, for example
[08:21] <joeyramone> yah ok well i tryed the ext3 journaled extended
[08:21] <joeyramone> with the /
[08:21] <knome> yes?
[08:21] <joeyramone> when i click forward
[08:22] <joeyramone> it says no newworld boot partition was found. the yaboot boot loader requires an apple_bootstrap partition at least 819200 bytes in size, using the HFS macintosh file system
[08:22] <knome> uhoh
[08:22] <joeyramone> lolololz
[08:22] <knome> don't really know about macs :)
[08:22] <joeyramone> daaym
[08:22] <joeyramone> haha
[08:22] <knome> anyway, you could join #ubuntu
[08:23] <knome> there's a lot more people online usually
[08:23] <knome> (i think)
[08:23] <joeyramone> okay
[08:23] <knome> i have to go soonish anyway
[08:23] <joeyramone> ight man
[08:23] <knome> i hope somebody can help
[08:23] <joeyramone> hey thanks for listeing tho
[08:23] <joeyramone> yah me too
[08:23] <joeyramone> haha
[08:23] <joeyramone> take it easy
[08:23] <knome> or you can google
[08:23] <knome> i
[08:23] <knome> uh
[08:24] <joeyramone> ye i tryed that
[08:24] <joeyramone> couldnt find much
[08:24] <joeyramone> lol
[08:24] <knome> i'm sure there is many howtos
[08:24] <joeyramone> yeah but most dont have the peramiters im lookign at
[08:24] <knome> yeah
[08:24] <joeyramone> its chill tho man
[08:24] <joeyramone> ill prolly hit up some other ircs channels
[08:24] <knome> http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[08:24] <knome> i don't know if that helps
[08:25] <joeyramone> eh not really
[08:25] <joeyramone> im not on an intel chip
[08:25] <joeyramone> im ppc
[08:25] <knome> aha ok
[08:25] <joeyramone> haha
[08:25] <joeyramone> 8-)
[08:25] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ ?
[08:26] <joeyramone> ooo shoot
[08:26] <joeyramone> that actually helps
[08:26] <knome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/PowerPC
[08:26] <joeyramone> oh i get it
[08:26] <knome> yeah
[08:26] <joeyramone> yaboot is a line that puts int he booting order
[08:26] <knome> help.ubuntu.com + ubuntuforums.org
[08:26] <joeyramone> chil
[08:27] <joeyramone> yeh ivechecked that out
[08:27] <knome> ok
[08:27] <knome> have fun
[08:27] <knome> i must go
[08:27] <joeyramone> hey thanks alot for that link tho man
[08:27] <knome> byw ->
[08:27] <knome> np
[08:27] <joeyramone> ok take it eacy
[13:58] <mandj1> hi. what's the easiest way to let a windows box have a remote session on a xubuntu box?
[14:00] <mandj1> just now i fiddled a bit with settings -> login windows but i don't have a clue if that is about giving access to xubuntu via vnc, rdp or whatever..
[14:07] <TheSheep> !vnc
[14:07] <TheSheep> !FreeNX
[14:08] <mandj1> tnx TheSheep
[15:13] <mandje> running nxserver now on xubuntu. added a user & passwd. but i can´t get a desktop with nx viewer in the windows box. tried several desktop types in the config. what desktop should you choose for xubuntu?
[15:15] <Odd-rationale> mandje: how did you add user and passwd?
[15:15] <mandje> sudo nxserver --adduser <name>
[15:16] <mandje> sudo nxserver --passwd <name>
[15:16] <Odd-rationale> mandje: the first user you add must be an admin...
[15:17] <Odd-rationale> mandje: someting like: nxserver --useradd test_user1 --system --administrator
[15:17] <mandje> i added myself the 1st user on xubuntu..  thatś the admin no?
[15:18] <Odd-rationale> mandje: the admin for your xubuntu box... but not for nxserver...
[15:18] <Odd-rationale> mandje: you can see if a user exists with: nxserver --usercheck USERNAME
[15:20] <mandje> ok tnx Odd-rationale. will correct that and hope it helps. i understand nxserver isnt properly configered yet.
[15:20] <Odd-rationale> mandje: try that and see if it works...
[15:20] <Odd-rationale> mandje: to delete a user from nxserver, nxserver --userdel user_test
[15:21] <Odd-rationale> where user_test s the name of the user...
[15:42] <mandje> Odd-rationale: ok. i changed the user setup in nxserver like you said. i assume you can use this admin user to log in with. tried it with nxviewer but no go. the session crashes. what desktop should be used?
[15:42] <Odd-rationale> mandje: do you have a node.conf file somewhere?
[15:43] <Odd-rationale> mandje: like in /etc/? /etc/NX? or somewhere?
[15:43] <Odd-rationale> mandje: but changing the user to be an admin is an improvenemt? or is it still the same as before?
[15:44] <mandj1> same as before
[15:45] <mandj1> looking at node.conf now
[15:46] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: find the line that has: #USER_X_STARTUP_SCRIPT=.Xclients
[15:47] <mandj1> yup. got it
[15:47] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: change it to: USER_X_STARTUP_SCRIPT=.xinitrc
[15:47] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: remember to remove the comment "#"
[15:48] <mandj1> ok done that
[15:48] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: close and save the file...
[15:48] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: then in your home directory create a ~/.xinitrc file
[15:49] <mandj1> no.. i can start over again.  as sudo toe edit.. :(
[15:49] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: what do you mean?
[15:50] <mandj1> can't save the changes as i didnt start the edit with sudo..
[15:50] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: oh ok... let me know when you done that...
[15:59] <mandj1> Odd-rationale: done that.
[15:59] <mandj1> any text inside the ﻿~/.xinitrc ?
[16:00] <Gandhi> G'day. Do external hard drives work with Xubuntu?
[16:02] <mandj1> Gandhi: yeah, there's a external drive working under xubuntu behind me. using usb 2.0 though.  the eSATA stuff is harder to figurre out.
[16:04] <mandj1> and with this machine: when booting i can't have the external running cause it will halt the boot..
[16:10] <The_Sorrow> hi... uhm, could anybody help me out with my display settings? i wanna have a dual screen system, but somehow that doesn't work :-/
[16:16] <Gandhi> Thanks, mandj1
[16:29]  * Gandhi orders a couple of external hard drives then
[16:32] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: sorry about that... i lost internet connection... :(
[16:32] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: you still there?
[16:33] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: make the ~/.xinitrc file look like this: http://pastebin.com/m42c84ab7 Note: you do not need to edit this file as root (sudo_
[16:33] <Odd-rationale> mandj1: then make sure that the file is executable. chmod +x ~/.xinitrc
[16:34] <mandje> Odd-rationale: i read ya
[16:35] <Odd-rationale> mandje: then in the client configuration, select custom. then go to settgins and use "Run defualt xclient scrupt on server"
[16:35] <Odd-rationale> and New virtual Desktop
[16:35] <mandje> ok
[16:46] <mandje> Odd-rationale: the session crashes with no chance to look into ´details´. pity.  i do understand what we did though. :)
[16:47] <Odd-rationale> mandje: hmm... idk then... sorry...
[16:47] <mandje> idk?
[16:48] <Odd-rationale> i dont know... :P
[16:49] <mandje> well you gave me a structure to hold on to while trying to figure out what the problem is. very valueable. tnx.
[16:55] <The_Sorrow> uhm, sould anybody lend me a hand in setting up dual screens?
[16:56] <The_Sorrow> *could
[17:02] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: depends on what graphics card you use ...
[17:02] <The_Sorrow> intel onboard chipset 945GM
[17:02] <venome> it has 2 screen outputs?
[17:02] <venome> :) all right
[17:03] <The_Sorrow> uhm, it's a laptop i am using
[17:03] <venome> all right, so whats the problem? :) have you tried yet?
[17:03] <The_Sorrow> and i would like to use sometimes a second screen at home for dualscreening with no clones, but in school i would wanna have clones for presentations...
[17:03] <The_Sorrow> well, i actually don't know where to start :-/
[17:04] <venome> i don't have this graphics in any of my computers, so I'm not really sure about this one
[17:04] <venome> 've you got any driver running that supports two screens?
[17:04] <The_Sorrow> is there a way that it scans it by itself and configures it the right way all by itself as in windows?
[17:05] <venome> well, you'll need an utility (probabely by Intel) that will do that for you ... not sure if one exists ...
[17:05] <The_Sorrow> uhm, that is the start point i think ^^ how can i check that without attaching another screen?
[17:05] <venome> but there definately is one for ATI and for NVidia :)
[17:06] <The_Sorrow> it's a bit difficult to get a graphics card on the motherboard if there is no slot for one :-/
[17:07] <venome> well, i
[17:07] <venome> m not sure how it works for intel
[17:07] <venome> but try open the console and go to /proc/acpi/video/
[17:07] <venome> (if that directory exists)
[17:08] <The_Sorrow> exists
[17:08] <The_Sorrow> i'm in :)
[17:09] <venome> go  to VGA
[17:09] <venome> and there should be directories CRT and LCD
[17:10] <venome> (or similar)
[17:10] <The_Sorrow> VID    VID1    VID2
[17:10] <The_Sorrow> those are the folders there
[17:11] <The_Sorrow> in vid are 4 folders (crt, dvi [what's that doing in there?! i don't have dvi!], lcd and tv)
[17:12] <The_Sorrow> same in vid1
[17:12] <The_Sorrow> vid2 has 5 files
[17:12] <The_Sorrow> which are also in the other two folders
[17:12] <venome> ok, and is there a file called info in the directories?
[17:12] <The_Sorrow> jeppers
[17:12] <The_Sorrow> which one should i open?
[17:13] <venome> check its contents for "Switching heads"
[17:13] <The_Sorrow> in vid, vid1 or vid2?
[17:13] <venome> not sure which one, mine is in the root (like on the same level as vid, vid1, vid2) ...
[17:13] <The_Sorrow> those 5 files are also in vid and vid1
[17:13] <venome> but if there is not one, just check all the files called info for "Switching heads"
[17:14] <venome> this should give you info on if the driver / acpi is capable of switching displays
[17:14] <The_Sorrow> ok, they already were switched to "yes"
[17:15] <venome> so it should be ok ...
[17:15] <venome> have you tried connecting the second display?
[17:15] <The_Sorrow> so that should be possible to get another screen working right?
[17:15] <venome> yep
[17:15] <The_Sorrow> well, i'll have to get one... i have to take the one from my other pc... brb
[17:17] <venome> ok, after you connect it and turn on, try running xrandr from the command line
[17:19] <venome> never work with that utility, so you might better check google for guide. Alternatively, you can manually edit the Xorg conf
[17:19] <stweston> hello, all
[17:20] <stweston> anyone know where to find a good, cheap (or free) CD-ROM drive? IDE?
[17:20] <stweston> or at least, what brand?
[17:21] <stweston> something old, but relatively new enough to boot into Linux with?
[17:21] <zoredache> go to the dump and steal from computers being thrown away?
[17:22] <stweston> LOL. Okay
[17:22] <zoredache> I am semi-serious.  I have gotten some pretty nice gear over the years from dumpster diving
[17:22] <stweston> Or just search around and see if someone will be throwing out an old computer?
[17:22] <stweston> wow. but I don't live in a city, nor do I live near a dump
[17:23] <zoredache> yes, well I bet someone you know has an old computer in a closet that they haven't thrown away yet...
[17:23] <The_Sorrow> back
[17:24] <zoredache> anyway.  ebay, craigslist.  If you have $30 newegg will have something.
[17:24] <stweston> OKay
[17:24] <The_Sorrow> uhm...
[17:24] <The_Sorrow> okay...
[17:24] <mandje> stweston:  if you live like that don´t complain and buy the drive.. ;)
[17:25] <The_Sorrow> i don't get any output ^^
[17:25] <stweston> mandje: good point.
[17:25] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: all right, that could be expected :) try what i wrote before ...
[17:25] <stweston> mandje: but I'm hoping to make this a completely free install.
[17:25] <The_Sorrow> do ypu know what lvds stands for?
[17:26] <zoredache> stweston: you don't need a cdrom to install, if you can either boot off usb, floppy, or the network
[17:26] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: not sure, lcd typo? :)
[17:27] <The_Sorrow> it's out of the terminal...
[17:27] <venome> huh
[17:27] <venome> well, is there something like crt as well?
[17:27] <The_Sorrow> LVDS connected 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 304mm x 190mm
[17:27] <venome> that looks like LCD
[17:27] <The_Sorrow> negative on that one :-/
[17:27] <stweston> zoredache: but I don't have access to any of those. I only have this mac that I'm on, which will have my instructions and advice, and the other machine that I'm trying to install on and has a semi-functional WIN98.
[17:28] <stweston> not even the 'net on the current install.
[17:28] <stweston> it DOES have ethernet, but that won't work under win98.
[17:29] <stweston> and possibly not even linux, yet.
[17:30] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: :( is the other monitor powered up?
[17:30] <The_Sorrow> uhm jep...
[17:30] <The_Sorrow> but somehow there is no connection :-/
[17:31] <The_Sorrow> although cables are attached properly...
[17:31] <stweston> all right... I'm trying to write a topic for an essay in school about free software. Anyone have any suggestions? I have my own idea, but I want to hear input, too.
[17:31] <The_Sorrow> uhm, how long does that essay have to be? ^^
[17:31] <stweston> 5 paragraphs or so.
[17:31] <stweston> 3 body/supporting paragraphs
[17:31] <zoredache> stweston: I would use windows 98 as a predictor for something being supported under linux.
[17:31] <venome> well, I'm thinking, not writing:)
[17:32] <stweston> zoredache: okay
[17:32] <stweston> venome: was that to me?
[17:32] <venome> well, to you as well :)
[17:32] <stweston> okay...
[17:33] <zoredache> write something about all the flaws, and then propose solutions to 'fix' them
[17:33] <venome> i'm not sure about what to do with it, mine shows up there ...
[17:33] <stweston> zoredache: hm... good idea. not sure.
[17:33] <stweston> zoredache: I think it's supposed to be a persuasive essay...
[17:33] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: do you have any special keys on the keyboard to enable the other monitor?
[17:34] <The_Sorrow> i could restart linux, _but_ then it takes over the resolution of the attached monitor, rendering my lcd useless...
[17:34] <zoredache> write something to try and convince the IT to drop all windows from the schools infrastructure
[17:34] <stweston> zoredache: good idea!
[17:34] <The_Sorrow> well, actually yes, but that keycombo seems to be dead...
[17:34] <stweston> zoredache: and since this is an online school, the IT might actually understand!
[17:35] <stweston> zoredache: maybe convince them to use Ubuntu Server instead of Win2003? LOL
[17:35] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: and what about lowering the resolution?
[17:38] <The_Sorrow> uhm, my lcd is 1280*800 while the other is something with 1152*768 or something....
[17:38] <stweston> I'm'a go ask someone in another channel about that idea, okay, zoredache?
[17:38] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: well i don't have any more advices for you, i guess there must be a lot of guides if you search google. You can try to set up the xorg configuration file manually, but for that you'll probably need the xrandr showing two screens, otherwise it would be just experimenting
[17:38] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: so perhaps try 800x600, both shall be capable to display that one right
[17:38] <The_Sorrow> uhm yeah...
[17:39] <The_Sorrow> but the other should work even though the resolution isn't right
[17:39] <stweston> zoredache: you there?
[17:40] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: yea, but for that I think you'll need some advanced setup. see http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
[17:46] <zoredache> stweston: I am only 30% here...  You don't need to ask my permission to speak to someone else
[17:46] <stweston> all right. thanks, then!
[17:47] <stweston> well, I kinda knew that... just wanted you to know
[17:47] <The_Sorrow> venome: thanks for the help... maybe i'll get it working...
[17:48] <stweston> see ya, guys!
[18:01] <The_Sorrow> uhm well, i found a tool...
[18:01] <The_Sorrow> venome: now i am close to get it working...
[18:02] <The_Sorrow> there is just no output :(
[18:05] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: and what's the tool name?
[18:07] <The_Sorrow> gnome-display-manager ^^
[18:07] <The_Sorrow> and now i remeber
[18:07] <The_Sorrow> it worked when the screen attached was booting with my laptop
[18:08] <The_Sorrow> whoah, its working O.o'''
[18:08] <The_Sorrow> but i had to start sound in the gnome-system-management O.o'''
[18:13] <The_Sorrow> back, _but_
[18:14] <The_Sorrow> i have a very odd screen problem -.-
[18:14] <The_Sorrow> everything is now in the external screen -.-
[18:14] <The_Sorrow> except my shells
[18:16] <The_Sorrow> venome: any idea what would help?
[18:20] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: shells... you mean the virtual terminals?
[18:20] <venome> ﻿The_Sorrow: the under ctrk+alt+f1 and so?
[19:37] <E_mE[Carrino]> has anyone had problems with Firefox with xubuntu, mine keeps segfaulting after a minute or two
[19:42] <cody-somerville> Probably flas
[19:42] <cody-somerville> Probably flash
[20:08] <acoc> hey guys, is there any documentation of your cd-build process (ie germinate to livecd)
[20:12] <infexion> does anyone use xubunutueee for thier eeepc?
[20:14] <nubuntu> guys is it possible there is/are hidden processes going on in my box?  system monitor processes list shows firefox using about 20% of cpu, and system monitor fluctuatiing between 20 and 29%, and yet the machine is very unresponsive, and the cpu meter is showing activity total between 98% -100% ... do i have bots? am i an unwitting zombie?  is there a recommended shampoo for this?
[20:15] <crimsun> htop might help, but essentially top should be able to help you diagnose.
[20:18] <DFlame> nubuntu, run top in the terminal and tell us the names of the processes hogging the resources. I've had a similar problem before
[20:20] <nubuntu> dflame i'm going to paste it in a sec
[20:21] <DFlame> 'kay
[20:27] <nubuntu> dflame, http://paste.ubuntu.com/50234/
[20:29] <DFlame> looks pretty normal to me, but I'm not an expert
[20:29] <DFlame> keep top running there, see if it changes much when the system hangs up again
[20:30] <DFlame> apart from the memory being full, obviously
[20:31] <knome> that can be solved by restarting firefox
[21:18] <Eeyore-Jr> hi.  i need to change my video resolution.  how?
[21:29] <Eeyore-Jr> strange, xubuntu is "locking" up on me
[21:29] <Eeyore-Jr> hard locking
[23:34] <Nillerz> Hola
[23:36] <Nillerz> I have a partitioned hard-drive. 40 gig. 2/3ds of that is WinXP, but now that I got wifi figured out I'd like to make it all Xubuntu while keeping XP files. Is there a way to do this?
[23:38] <Nillerz> btw, Xubuntu is already installed on the other third. I'm on it now
[23:39] <eca> when i reboot my computer, my network printer no longer works. i have to delete and create it again with system-config-printer. Any suggestions to fix this?
[23:45] <zoredache> Nillerz: backup your files from windows to an external drive, delete the partition...  Make a new ext3 partition where xp was and call it /home
[23:45] <Nillerz> Okay, so just call the partition /home?
[23:46] <Nillerz> Wait, partitions are the same as folders?!
[23:47] <zoredache> no... but the filesystem that is on a partition will need to be mounted somewhere.  Mounting it at /home, and then moving your stuff currently on /home into new partition+filesystem seems like a good idea
[23:47] <Nillerz> so xubuntu can use both partitions at the same time?
[23:48] <zoredache> yes...  For the best *nix experience you will need switch the filesystem to ext3 or something other then ntfs...
[23:49] <Nillerz> sorry about that, did I miss anything?
[23:49] <zoredache> yes...
[23:49] <zoredache> yes...  For the best *nix experience you will need switch the filesystem to ext3 or something other then ntfs...
[23:50] <Nillerz> Hm, well, I got the drivers I need backed up to private webspace so I can find them again...
[23:51] <Nillerz> What is the difference between ext3 and ntfs and fat32?
[23:52] <zoredache> ntfs and fat are Microsofts filesystems.  ntfs can handle acls, large partitions, and large files.  ext3 is the standard filesystem used on Linux
[23:52] <zoredache> there is a lot more technical differences, but you can find those if you search on google/wikiepdia
[23:53] <Nillerz> okay, I guess I need to do a backup...
[23:53] <Nillerz> Pity I only get 5 kbps file transfers...
[23:53] <Nillerz> my web ftp server is probably limiting upload speed..
[23:54] <Nillerz> Another question though, if I use ext3 will my system be able to handle hard-refreshes?
[23:54] <zoredache> what do you mean 'hard-refreshes'?
[23:54] <Nillerz> we get power outages and in the past I had to run chkdisk on windows
[23:55] <Nillerz> hard refresh, like when the power cuts out when you'r ein the middle of something
[23:55] <zoredache> ext3 will be somewhat better about recovering from a power outage because it is a journallying filesystem.  If you are able you should consider getting a UPS though
[23:56] <Nillerz> ups, another filesystem or is it some sort of power-strip?
[23:57] <Nillerz> because I'm poor.
[23:57] <zoredache> Uninterruptible power supply
[23:57] <Nillerz> ah, yeah, out of my budget
[23:57] <Nillerz> Is the filesystem just like, organization?
[23:58] <zoredache> ah, but which will cost more.  To buy a new hard drive in a few months when you have a catostrophic failure, or to spend $30-50 on a ups?
[23:59] <zoredache> filesystem stores information about the name of files, size, where the file is located physically on the drive.  A file is stored withing the directory structure so you have some organization.