ibilickiwhen will the beta for Intrepid Ibex be available?00:03
DeniseI m encultivated in a cult00:08
kinghi guys00:27
kinghow can i make konqueror my default file manager00:28
kingwhenever i try to click on a device dolphi  is started00:28
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Denisegood night01:10
Deniseit seems I'll have no answer01:10
o0Chris0opatience goes a long way01:11
o0Chris0o!patience | Denise01:12
ubottuDenise: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:12
Denisethanks chris01:12
OzoneNerdI have a laptop and I was wondering if any one else has the following problem:  When I'm typing for a while sometimes my mouse acts as if it was clicked.  This is annoying because it causes me to either lose focus on the text box or start typing in the middle of what I had already typed.  I don't see this happen when I use the same computer under Windows XP.01:37
coreymon77you sure youre not accidentaly touching your trackpad?01:37
coreymon77i sometimes do that when typing notes at school01:38
OzoneNerdcoreymon77: I thought it may be that, but that doesn't explain why I don't see it under Windows.01:39
OzoneNerdcoreymon77: It may be some difference in settings, perhaps Kubuntu is more sensitive...01:40
coreymon77my guess is that your palm is just accidentally touching the trackpad when typing01:40
OzoneNerdDoes anyone know of a mouse sensitivity setting under kubuntu.01:40
OzoneNerdcoreymon77: It may well be a fluke too.01:41
coreymon77look in system prefs01:41
coreymon77under mouse01:41
OzoneNerdsystem prefs = system settings?01:41
coreymon77should be there01:41
coreymon77thats what i meant01:41
OzoneNerdThe only applicable one I see is pointer threshold which is specified in pixels.01:42
OzoneNerdThat probably determines whether a widget should get clicked on though.01:42
coreymon77i dunno01:43
coreymon77look around in the settings01:43
coreymon77check google about adjusting trackpad sensitivity01:43
OzoneNerdI get this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4952350  I don't see any sensitivity slider.01:45
OzoneNerdI'll try editing the xorg.conf ... CAREFULLY...01:46
coreymon77do some more google searching01:47
coreymon77maybe specify kubuntu rather than ubuntu01:47
tacosarecoolIs my console suppose to say user@user-desktop02:10
tacosarecoolThe -desktop part seems weird02:10
coreymon77its fine02:10
coreymon77thats your computer name02:10
Daisuke_Idotacosarecool: that's also configurable once you get into linux a bit02:13
Daisuke_Idomine is user@lappy-486 (i'm a bit of a strongbad fan)02:13
coreymon77meh, i hav a naming scheme for all of my electronics02:15
coreymon77i always do C (the first letter of my name) followed by what the thing is02:16
tacosarecoolThis command won't work for some reason I'll just keep on trying it02:23
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox02:26
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DreadKnightanyone knows a guide for how to recompile the virtualbox kernel module?02:27
ign0ramusDreadKnight: you updated your kernel, and now vbox won't run?02:27
coreymon77why are you using that02:27
coreymon77vmware is much better02:27
DreadKnightign0ramus: something like that :-) happened a lot of times; heard intrepid won't have this issue anymore02:28
DreadKnightcoreymon77: vmware open source? ^^02:28
coreymon77vmware player is02:28
ubottuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", only for Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers02:28
ign0ramusDreadKnight: if you download the .deb from Sun, and re-install it, it should work. I had the same issue a few weeks ago02:28
DreadKnightnever used vmware.. only familiar with vbox, the open source edition .. only one i found my way with02:29
ign0ramusDreadKnight: make sure you grab the PUEL version02:29
coreymon77umm, thats the point02:29
coreymon77vmware is much easier to use02:29
coreymon77much more intuitive02:29
coreymon77since vmware as a company has had much more experience with the technology02:29
DreadKnightign0ramus: ose edition :P02:30
DreadKnightcoreymon77: ok.. so i have some .iso images i wanna try out (linux distros)02:30
DreadKnighthow would i proceed?02:31
ign0ramusvmware player doesn't allow you to create new images02:31
coreymon77much more experience + big corporate backing usually = better/more intutive product02:31
coreymon77ign0ramus: ya, but easyvmx does02:31
coreymon77ign0ramus: plus you could always just download vmware workstation as the 30 day free trial to create the images02:32
coreymon77then use player to run them02:32
DreadKnightseems like more complicated to get into / set up02:32
* DreadKnight goes to find out how to recompile kernel module02:32
coreymon77but, if you dont want to bother, than be my guest02:32
DreadKnightit has a GUI at least?02:33
ign0ramuscoreymon77: although shared folders in Vbox are a pain... any better in vmware?02:33
coreymon77vmware is entirely gui02:33
coreymon77ign0ramus: seamless from what i have seen02:33
coreymon77well, nearly02:33
DreadKnightign0ramus: www.getdropbox.com    best thing for sharing/back-up/sync02:33
ign0ramuscoreymon77: well, once they're set up in Vbox, they work fine, but setting them up is a pain02:33
coreymon77vmware is entirely gui based02:34
coreymon77so, i tend to find it much easier is aspects such as those02:34
ign0ramusDreadKnight: I refuse to back up my personal files on an online database02:34
coreymon77install vmware tools and bingo, nearly seamless02:34
DreadKnighti'm not even sure where to install it from coreymon7702:35
ign0ramusDreadKnight: ubottu just told you02:35
coreymon77of course, vmware player, being free and open source, is not vmwares strongest and most inntegrated product, but oh well02:35
coreymon77!vmware | DreadKnight02:35
ubottuDreadKnight: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", only for Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers02:35
ign0ramusbut... it's free02:35
coreymon77ign0ramus: exactly02:36
MachinTrucChoseI'm looking for a decent archiver that will integrate with Konqueror. I want to be able to right-click a bunch of files, and have the option to put them in an archive. The default archiver (Ark) fails miserably at this.02:36
DreadKnighti have hardy02:36
ign0ramusMachinTrucChose: p7zip?02:36
DreadKnightno vmware-player around..02:36
coreymon77DreadKnight: jsut look at the links02:36
ign0ramusnot sure if that has a gui mode, though :/02:36
coreymon77!info vmware02:36
ubottuPackage vmware does not exist in hardy02:36
MachinTrucChoseign0ramus: how do Linux users typically archive files? They go to the command-line every time?02:37
coreymon77!info vmware-player02:37
ubottuPackage vmware-player does not exist in hardy02:37
ign0ramusMachinTrucChose: i don't like admitting this, but i still use winrar under wine just because it is still (imho) the most comprehensive gui-based archiver02:37
ign0ramusMachinTrucChose: ark is good for simple tasks, but gui-wise, it fails a lot02:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about archive02:38
MachinTrucChoseign0ramus: probably a good idea. I miss Winrar.02:38
DreadKnightdon't use ark-kde402:38
ign0ramusDreadKnight: i know. sucks hard.02:39
ign0ramusMachinTrucChose: no one here will like this, but honestly, winrar works perfectly in wine02:39
ign0ramusark is also very flaky with encrypted archives02:40
ign0ramusunrar is pretty powerful, but not good if you want a gui02:40
MachinTrucChoseign0ramus: I don't get it, why doesn't someone integrate 7zip or something? I use it at work on my Windows PC, it's pretty decent. How hard would it be to hook it in Konqueror?02:40
ign0ramusMachinTrucChose: licensing.02:40
MachinTrucChoseit's FOSS02:40
MachinTrucChoseLGPL license02:41
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ign0ramusMachinTrucChose: from the home page: "Most of the source code is under the GNU LGPL license."02:41
ign0ramusMachinTrucChose: in any event, Kubuntu will most likely use some KDE app as a default archiver... but it's open source, so you do whatever you want02:43
ubuntui just upgraded to ibex, but i cant get networking to work02:44
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ign0ramusTinason: that's nowhere near enough information to even begin troubleshooting02:45
ign0ramusTinason: also, it's still Alpha, isn't it?02:45
ign0ramustry #ubuntu+102:46
Tinasoni installed hardy, networking worked just fine, out of the box . then i put ibex a6 on, and networking doesnt work at all02:46
ign0ramusTinason: #ubuntu+1 is your Intrepid channel, but i definitely see more questions than answers... good luck to you02:47
thedarkhello everyone03:25
DreadKnighthow do i add an user to vboxusers group thingy?03:30
DreadKnightcommand line03:30
rlaneI was wondering if KDE 4.1 was good enough to use as an everyday desktop (opinions)? I'm using KDE 3.5.10. Thank  You.03:32
geniiDreadKnight: sudo usermod -G newgroupname username -a                     <-- the -a is uber important otherwise newgroupname is the only group they will belong to03:32
DreadKnightsudo usermod -G vboxusers dread -a03:33
DreadKnight...Usage: usermod [options] LOGIN03:33
DreadKnightgenii: thanks but something wrong.. need to create the group first perhaps?03:35
geniiDreadKnight: Yes the group needs to exist first03:37
geniiDreadKnight: You can try also alternate syntax of:   sudo usermod -G -a vboxusers dread03:37
DreadKnightyeah, i'm making some progress03:38
thedarkhow do I add Japanese input support to Kubuntu 8.04?03:42
jimmy51_homehello, i've connected to my corporate vpn using the cisco anyconnect client.  i can ping my windows workstation.... how can i RDP into it?  (i can RDP in from windows easy)03:42
jimmy51_homerunning kubuntu 8.04 by the way03:43
DreadKnightgenii: thanks for the help; managed to fix this shit :-) (not the first time i stumble into issues with virtualbox...)03:44
geniiDreadKnight: np. Remember to use that command with caution since if forget the -a the user will only be in the one group and no others including their native one03:45
jimmy51_homegot it03:49
Ash-FoxIs there a active news group for Kubuntu?04:11
crzyboi_Laptopi dont know04:12
crzyboi_Laptopbut when is the next version coming out?04:12
Ash-Foxcrzyboi_Laptop, they generally come out in six month intervals04:12
chipbuddyi'm trying to use ssh on my laptop to log into my desktop. when the laptop has a wired connection it works, but when i'm wireless it doesn't. i think it might be because ssh is trying to use the wired connection when i am wireless. does this sound plausible, and how do i fix it?04:13
crzyboi_LaptopAsh-Fox, prbly sometime in october04:13
crzyboi_Laptopthats when it was last yr04:13
Ash-FoxMight be November, seems it gets delayed slightly all the time.04:13
crzyboi_Laptophardy heron came out on time04:14
geniiThere is now talk of offsetting Kubuntu rellleases from regular Ubuntu releases by 4 months to synchronise with KDE release schedules04:17
d0wnchipbuddy: do you have the ports forwarded?04:18
chipbuddyd0wn i set the to open with firestarter... is port forwarding something different?04:18
* crzyboi_Laptop will bbl04:19
d0wnchipbuddy: when you have it connected via ethernet, is it going through your router, or directly into the desktop?04:22
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mr---t-/mw buys coffee for everyone04:40
geniiYay, coffee!04:40
surgywhere can i download nice screen savers? i want something that really shows off my gfx card04:40
surgysurely theres some in the repos right?04:41
mr---t-g i like the standard ones04:41
surgyi dont they are weak04:41
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion04:42
surgycompiz blows04:42
geniisurgy: http://parker1.co.uk/eternity/04:45
surgyawsome thnx genii04:46
geniisurgy: np04:46
surgybtw mind if i ask where you keep your bottle?04:46
geniisurgy: In my vest pocket, full of scotch ;)04:47
mr---t-top drawer , doesn't everyone?04:47
surgyi ment the one he lives in lol04:48
mr---t-sip slowly young friend04:49
surgyanyone else have sporadic problems with the medibuntu repo?04:50
mr---t-all of my actions with kubuntu are sweetness and light04:50
surgyyou say that as you pound your head into your monitor?04:51
surgyok im off to watch 3 kings04:51
surgyi heard its a dfecent flick04:52
mr---t-no , actually I'm a reformed windows guy , windows =crash every other month , kubuntu no crashes yet04:52
surgyill catch you guys latters, and thanx again for the screen saver link genii04:52
geniisurgy: Have FUN :)04:52
surgymr---t-: same here, only problem is that it will never crash, and when its time to add something i cant make it crash! some times i yearn for a crash to tell me i did something wrong, instead of just an "it might have worked! GRATS!"04:53
surgylatter guys04:53
niallanyone know how to get dual monitors going with an nvidia card?05:09
mr---t-no bot05:21
thedarkdoes anyone here use scim?05:47
paulandsarai need help lol06:04
thedarkso no one could help me out with setting up alternate input (like for Japanese) in Kubuntu?06:07
geniithedark: Maybe ask in #scim  although it sweems somewhat empty. There is also always google06:08
thedarkI have been googling and fiddling for a good while now... days :(06:08
thedarkthank you for replying though06:09
geniithedark: Did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu   already? It's older but should still be applicable06:12
thedarkactually no, I only looked at newer guides on the forum06:14
thedarkI'm reading it now, thanks :)06:15
DarkriftXanyone here who has the ndis drivers for the broadcomm bcm4311 (43xx) wifi? i cant connect to http to download them or i wouldnt be asking in here and i think my drivers are causing connection issues06:27
mike-solidushey, does the latest kernel in ubuntu support the intel ICH10 sata controller card?06:36
_2anyone know off hand the minimum CPU and SFB speed needed to play dvd smoothly ?06:41
genii_2: Something like p2 23306:43
geniiWhich ain't much06:43
_2agreed.    so why can't a coppermine 1ghz do it ?06:44
_2and think of who you are talking to before you say "too many other things going on"06:45
geniiswap use perhaps06:45
_2no swap06:45
_2i supose that 512m ram is plenty06:46
geniiTried from mounted iso instead of physical dvd?06:46
_2i've tried just playing the .vob's off the hard drive06:47
_2still runns for a few seconds and skips.    it's like something is overloading and having to catch up06:48
geniiI had a similar issue when streaming from ext filesystems but not xfs06:49
geniinever did track it down exactly06:49
_2this 1ghz is the 'slowest' box i've tried it on,  is why i was asking.06:49
_2you know i'm not sure but i think it may work better from the dvd drive than the hard drive      which flys in the face of reason.06:50
_2err actually maybe it doesn't, they are both ide but seperate channels. so it could be bottlenecking at the ide buffer maybe  ?06:52
_2genii do you think it's the ide bus overloading ?   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/204206:54
geniigeez 33Mhz06:55
_2that's output of lshw06:56
geniiIs it actually 66? You could set ide=66           or so (exact command I forget now, been long)06:56
_2i think it's actually 100mhz06:57
_2but may be in "compatability mode" in bios because of an old drive ???06:57
_2and yes iirc linux "assumes 33mhz" on everything that doesn't specify06:58
geniiidebus=100       I think06:59
geniimaybe 66 for safety first07:00
_2heh k i'll give that a shot when i reboot.07:00
_2this is 100 mhz    no?    0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 02)07:00
geniiThe drive is07:01
geniiBut bus speeds are normally like 33 66 13307:01
geniino wait07:01
* genii re examines07:01
_2that's not the drive that's the ide bus  ^   lspci out07:01
geniiYeah it's 10007:01
geniiThe 828xxxxx  clued me in (tired)07:02
_2tired? it's only 08:0007:03
genii2am here07:03
_2oh yeah    canada   right07:03
genii!time Toronto07:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about time toronto07:03
geniibah forgot even that syntax07:04
_2!schedual toronto07:04
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:04
geniiWeird.     time Toronto         works with private ubottu but not here07:05
geniiAnyhow, 2:05am07:05
o0Chris0oset up differently , this one is for ubuntu related only07:05
o0Chris0olol :D07:05
o0Chris0osame here07:06
jussi01@schedule toronto07:06
ubottuSchedule for America/Toronto: 26 Sep 11:00: Ubuntu Release | 29 Sep 00:00: Arizona LoCo IRC | 30 Sep 11:00: Server Team | 30 Sep 15:00: LoCo Council | 01 Oct 13:00: QA Team | 01 Oct 18:00: Platform Team07:06
geniijussi01: Thanks07:06
_2ah at and not not07:07
* _2 forgets07:07
jussi01genii: there is a difference between commands '@' and factoids '!'07:07
o0Chris0ooh yah forgot about that too07:07
genii@time Toronto07:07
ubottuCurrent time in America/Toronto: September 25 2008, 02:07:31 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Release in 1 day07:07
geniiThere we go07:07
geniiSign I should get some sleep :)07:08
geniiGoodnight all, back in 7 hours07:08
o0Chris0oahh ubuntu release in 1 day?07:08
_2shalom genii07:08
_2time based versioning07:09
_24.10 was the first ubuntu release07:10
jussi01o0Chris0o: next meeting is the Ubuntu Release team, and its in 1 day...07:10
o0Chris0omakes sense now07:10
jussi01anyway, shall we meander back to support questions then?07:10
_2jussi01 there wasn't any07:11
jussi01_2, ok then... anyway, shall we meander back to support questions or general silence then?07:11
_2i mean i did ask some info about minimum requirements for dvd play   but that's all i have seen sense arival.07:12
_2and what good is silence ?  ;/07:12
jussi01_2: Best this place is silent except for support questions. you are more than welcome to join us in #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter.07:13
_2dollar aganist the hole in a doughnut #kubuntu-offtopic is dead too.07:14
FuriousGeorgehey all07:26
FuriousGeorgei have a ps2->usb adapter that works in other distros, but not 8.04.107:26
FuriousGeorgeive verified that the usbhid module is loaded, and that appears to be the module the other distros use07:26
FuriousGeorgeim somewhat stuck here07:26
FuriousGeorgeoh, only the mouse half works.  its one of those pogtail ends, with a din for mouse and for keyboard07:27
Timberwolf5578Is Kubuntu as fast as Ubuntu?07:29
o0Chris0oyes, kubuntu is more   graphical then gnome basicly07:34
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[hubert|chang]Hi, What language is this "Evet arkadaşlar Islem COK Basit" ?08:23
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jussi01[hubert|chang]: bit offtopic for here, next time use #kubuntu-offtopic - but that looks a bit like turkish to me08:27
[hubert|chang]jussi01, Thanks :) Wont do that again.08:28
gregowhich command shows avaiable processor extensions?09:34
gm04030276cat /proc/cpuinfo maybe?09:34
gregothank you :)09:35
gm04030276there's alot of fun information in there :)09:35
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araizenfirefox just got upgraded, but now i can't get to google docs09:53
araizenhow do i unupgrade firefox?09:53
florin_how I change the desktop envirorment ?09:59
ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:02
neSSun0ohi guys i had a rt73 wifi driver (which is kubuntu's default one) that wasnt working well, pinging my router i had 50% packet loss and the connection was super slow, thus i removed it and installed the "compat-wireless" driver as the kubuntu wiki suggests, pinging my router at that point gave me 0% packet loss and everything was going good, till yesterday, even with this new driver now ivegot again 50% packet loss... what happened? can10:05
neSSun0osomebody help? thank you10:05
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: is the new software loaded or has it snapped back to the old?10:07
neSSun0ohow do i know that ActionParnsip?10:07
neSSun0ohow can i check it?10:07
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: do what you did to get the new system instated10:08
neSSun0ooh no please... it was a long process10:09
neSSun0oisnt there a simple command to check what driver version im using now?10:10
neSSun0oso at least i no if i have to restart everything again...10:10
ActionParsniplshw should help10:12
ActionParsniplshw -C network10:13
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: any good?10:16
neSSun0oActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/50416/10:18
neSSun0oi don't find it do you?10:18
bentob0xI keep on having problems with Amarok and xine/audio drivers (busy, etc), how can I spot in the console the 'busy' xine drivers?10:18
bentob0xor audio drivers used by another application?10:18
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: dont do that. dont paste stuff twice, its pointless10:19
bentob0xlet's say FF does take some priority over Amarok, I want to know what I need to kill to get Amarok working again10:19
neSSun0oActionParsnip: giving "lsmod" this appears http://paste.ubuntu.com/50417/ but i still don't know10:19
neSSun0owhat u mean twice?10:20
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: in both rooms10:20
neSSun0oi didnt paste it twice... only once, the second link it's the output of a different command10:20
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: what wireless device do you have?10:20
neSSun0oin both rooms i did it before because noone was answering here10:20
neSSun0obut now im only here because ur helping10:20
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: well i was websearching, give me chance10:21
neSSun0osorry man10:21
ActionParsnipnp dude10:21
ActionParsnipok, what wireless device do you have?10:21
neSSun0ommm i dunno :D10:21
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: lspic10:21
neSSun0oim quite of a newbie10:21
neSSun0oit says command not found...?10:21
ActionParsnipbentob0x: you could renice amarok to have more cpu time10:22
ActionParsnipell ess pee see eye10:22
jussi01ActionParsnip: fail! :P10:22
* ActionParsnip hugs jussi0110:22
ActionParsniptab completion is riining my keyboard skills10:23
ActionParsnipsee ^10:23
bentob0xwould that change the fact that the xine thing is busy?10:23
neSSun0oim trying to pastebin it but because of packet loss its taking a bit10:23
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: i only need the 1 line for your wireless10:24
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: i dont need the rest do i10:24
neSSun0osorry i didnt know10:24
ActionParsnipthink about it10:25
ActionParsnipok, is this a usb wireless?10:25
ActionParsnipok, lsusb10:25
ActionParsnipgive me the pastebin10:26
ActionParsnipof that10:26
neSSun0oits taking too long and all the lines are "empty" apart from these two10:28
neSSun0oBus 006 Device 003: ID 0b05:1723 ASUSTek Computer, Inc.10:28
neSSun0oBus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c03d Logitech, Inc.10:28
ActionParsniptry dmesg | grep ASUSTek10:31
ActionParsnipit may help10:31
ActionParsnipit appears to be a rt2500 chip10:31
neSSun0onothing happens10:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 144448 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "rt2500usb module not working with asus wl-167g wifi stick (dup-of: 134660)" [Undecided,New]10:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 134660 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.24 "Ralink rt2400 / rt2500 / rt2570 / rt61 / rt73 do not work out of the box in Gutsy/Hardy" [High,Fix released]10:33
ActionParsniptry dmesg |grep rt10:34
ActionParsnipdmesg |grep rt | less10:34
neSSun0osorry i got disconnected10:37
neSSun0oActionParsnip: there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/50422/10:37
ActionParsniphmm not helpful10:38
ActionParsnipjussi01: can you pitch in anything useful at all please?10:38
MikeyLDShey guys10:39
neSSun0oalright im thinking how can i know what wifi driver is installed on my machine? i can try to install another one and see how it goes cuz as u were saying <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: is the new software loaded or has it snapped back to the old? this could be10:39
MikeyLDSjust wondering if somebody could help me choose a linux distro for my dedicated server10:39
MikeyLDSi have the choice between CentOS 4/5 and Red Hat Fedora Core 7 ... any ideas?10:40
ActionParsnipMikeyLDS: go with what you are comfortable configuring10:40
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: well you need to see if its using the one you know works or the old one10:41
MikeyLDSwell, I don't know any of them ActionParsnip :P10:41
MikeyLDSi use kubuntu on my lappy ... but have never hosted a website before10:42
ActionParsnipMikeyLDS: then you'll have to try a few to see which you prefer10:42
ActionParsnipMikeyLDS: if you like ubuntu, use ubuntu10:42
MikeyLDSthats the problem ... the hosting company is only giving me the option of the 3 that I mentioned10:42
MikeyLDSi was just hoping somebody might be able to point me in the right direction ... whatever I choose I am going to have to stick with ya see10:43
ActionParsnipMikeyLDS: then read reviews of each, its a fairly strange thing to ask a user imho10:43
MikeyLDSpeople used to be so helpful in here10:43
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: ok is your network interface called wlan010:43
ActionParsnipMikeyLDS: as a user you shouldnt need to worry what OS the hosting has10:44
MikeyLDSmost experienced users that I have met in here have had experience with different flavours10:44
ActionParsnipMikeyLDS: as long as the site stays up etc10:44
MikeyLDSand that is why I am asking for opinions! lol10:44
ActionParsnipMikeyLDS: redhat is a solid server technology and id personally shoot for that10:44
neSSun0owlan0 yes so?10:44
ActionParsnipMikeyLDS: i dont see why as a customer you get that choice10:45
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: sweet10:45
MikeyLDSthanks ... thats all I was looking for :P10:45
MikeyLDSyeah, well I was a lil confused too10:45
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: try sudo dmesg | grep -i ethernet; sudo dmesg | grep -i wlan010:45
neSSun0o2  different commands? or on the same line?10:46
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: yes theyll run one after another10:46
ActionParsnipthats what the ; is for10:47
ActionParsnipyou can write thousands of command on the same line if you want10:47
ActionParsnipMikeyLDS: id ask them why they ask you what OS you want10:48
neSSun0oi am sorry ActionParnsip i don't understand this sarcasm as i told you i am a newbie and dunno ANYTHING about linux and commands, excuse me for my ignorance10:48
neSSun0oi'll give the commands right away10:48
neSSun0othank you for helping10:48
ActionParsnipi try10:49
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neSSun0owith the first command nothing happens10:50
neSSun0owith the second this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/50428/10:50
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=== david is now known as dacbes
dacbeshola a todos10:51
dacbestengo un problema con la tarjeta de sonido en kubuntu hardy10:51
dacbesme podeis ayudar?10:52
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: lspci -v -nn -m10:52
ActionParsnipdacbes: espaniol?10:52
dacbesDevice: 00:00.010:53
dacbesClass:  Host bridge [0600]10:53
dacbesVendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] [1039]10:53
dacbesDevice: 661FX/M661FX/M661MX Host [0661]10:53
dacbessi, español10:53
ActionParsnip!es | dacbes10:53
ubottudacbes: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.10:53
dacbesplease, can you help me10:54
neSSun0oActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/50429/10:54
dacbesi speak a little english10:54
ActionParsnipdacbes: wassup?10:54
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: does lsusb work with the same args?10:55
neSSun0o??? what u mean?10:55
dacbessrry, i don't understand what are you speak10:55
dacbesi'm novece10:55
ActionParsnipneSSun0o:  lsusb -v -nn -m10:55
neSSun0oit saysy invalid options10:56
ActionParsnipneSSun0o: the things that you passa command are arguments10:56
ActionParsnipok bah10:56
ActionParsnipdacbes: how can we help10:56
ActionParsnipdacbes: doesnt kde have a hardware viewer or somesuch10:56
dacbessorry, can you explain me more?10:57
ActionParsnipdacbes: how can we help you, what is wrong?10:57
dacbesi can earth any sound on my laptop11:01
dacbesin windows the sound is fine11:01
jesus_q pacha??11:03
calderacan anyone help me with kubuntu issues?11:03
calderanew linux user :P11:04
calderamy APT is broken11:04
fritz09i am not so new but far away to be crack, apt broken, seems not nice!11:05
calderasays: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.11:05
fritz09and non of the 2 resolve the problem?11:06
calderaif i knew how to use them lol11:06
fritz09lol ? what is this11:07
calderanothing, slang11:08
calderaso can anyone help me11:08
calderaapt-get gives me all those commands,11:08
fritz09did you tried to run those two commands from above?11:09
calderayes, but there are subcommands11:10
ActionParsnip!fixapt | caldera11:11
ubottucaldera: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:11
ActionParsnipdacbes: you need to configure your sound card11:12
ActionParsnipdacbes: maybe you need drivers11:12
ActionParsnipcaldera: after that run sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update11:13
ActionParsnipcaldera: you could also try a reboot11:15
dacbeshow configure soundcard?11:16
calderaok i will try reboot now11:17
ActionParsnipdacbes: what soundcard do you have?11:18
dacbesis the only i know11:19
afiestasdacbes this card work perfectly in my computer, maybe you can try disabling pulseaudio11:19
afiestas(search in google howto)11:20
afiestas[12:19] <afiestas> dacbes this card work perfectly in my computer, maybe you can try disabling pulseaudio11:20
afiestas[12:19] <afiestas> (search in google howto)11:20
afiestasor try with another distro (an old version of kubuntu for example) with a live cd11:20
ActionParsnipdacbes: is it muted in kmix?11:20
dacbesall is full11:21
dacbesin kmix11:21
dacbesand in alsamixer11:21
ActionParsnipok so if you attempt to play music does it play or just refuse to play?11:21
afiestasdacbes disable pulseaudio, cya!11:22
dacbesi can't earth anything11:22
dacbesbut any error11:22
dacbeshow disable pulseaudio?11:22
dacbesselecting alsa in preferences/sound?11:23
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dacbessorry i'm very novice with linux11:25
calderame again, and no hope11:25
calderawhat i was doing is adding a new package to the adept manager11:26
calderaand i misspeled a APT reference11:26
calderanow it wont open anymore :(11:26
calderacan i somehow reset to defaults or something11:27
ActionParsnipdacbes: yes in sound prefs choose alsa11:27
ActionParsnipcaldera: can you give a pastebin of you konsole when you try to apt-get update11:27
calderawhats a pastebin?11:28
calderaE: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)11:28
ActionParsnipcaldera: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst11:30
ActionParsnipcaldera: and check that line out11:30
calderayou mispelled ext but i figured itz out, thank you very much11:34
calderaits fixed now11:34
dacbeschanged to alsa and nothing11:35
ActionParsnipcaldera: watch how you edit conf files11:35
ActionParsnipcaldera: there is no fuzzy logic, its either right or wrong11:35
calderai agree with that logic, but there should also be "discard wrong"11:36
ActionParsnipcaldera: thats a bit dangerous imho11:36
ActionParsnipdacbes: you need to search round to see what you can do about your card, some people are saying it works straight away, are you running hardy or intrepid?11:37
ActionParsnipdacbes: good11:37
ActionParsnipid have a websearch round, see what you can find11:38
calderanot in my perspective, if you need to enter a command in this order like "apt-get options command" then accept only this format discard any mispelled alike format11:39
calderabut what do i know im a newbie linux user11:40
calderaanyway, thanks for help, im now gonna browse through11:40
ActionParsnipcaldera: you could suggest it to apt-get11:40
afiestasdacbes try with another distro via livecd for example mandriva kde and if in this distro you have sound, open a bug in launchpad saying it11:41
dacbesnothing else?11:41
afiestascurrently I'm not using kubuntu so I can't help you11:42
afiestasbut sometimes, the best way to report a bug is checking if another distro have the same problem11:43
ActionParsnipdacbes: im web searching, you search too11:43
afiestasbecause the developers can check what for XXXX distro have11:43
afiestasto get it working, and just copy it11:43
ActionParsnipdacbes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/20479411:44
sales_guyOk, made the mistake of trying to use the Nvidia Settings tool to edit my xorg.conf file. Now every time I boot all I get is the command line. I restored my backup .conf file both from after the Nvidia driver install and from before the Nvidia driver install. Still only command line. How do I get GUI back please?11:52
dacbesthis bug not is for my laptop. i tried this but nothing happends11:53
favrosales_guy: tried typing   startx?11:53
dacbessorry for my english11:53
dacbesi'm from spain11:54
ActionParsnipdacbes: all im doing is webseaching, i gotta split, you could try11:54
ActionParsnip!es | dacbes11:54
dacbessorry idon't understand you11:54
ActionParsnipive got to go11:55
ActionParsniptry the spanish room11:55
sales_guyfavro: EE Failed to load "nvidia"  & EE No drivers available11:55
dacbesin spanish room no one answer me11:56
favrosales_guy: I would try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg11:57
sales_guyfavro: muchas gracias... thanks that worked11:59
sales_guyNow if I could just get SKIM to work...11:59
favroI don't kow anything about that...12:00
sales_guythough I did lose my desktop and all of my shortcuts12:00
sales_guyOuch that's a killer command. All my bookmarks, mail settings, everything gone. Might want give a caveat before sharing that one out12:03
favrosales_guy: can you logout and in again?12:04
rajaI am too having problems with logging in after logging out(ctrl+alt+backspace works though)12:06
rajaI am using kde4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy12:08
rajacan anyone help me out?12:08
favrotry ctrl+alt+F2 then   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart12:08
sales_guyI get it. I'm in the UI as root, eh?12:08
favrosales_guy: it seems so since your settings in your home folder aren't being used12:09
favrowhat is the prompt in konsole?12:10
sales_guyOk. Now I'm back to phase 1. How to get my laptop to display the same thing on two screens.12:12
ubottutwinview is a feature provided by nvidia cards, which can be configured with nvidia-settings12:12
sales_guytwinview seems to stretch the desktop, not duplicate the desktop12:13
favroyou could try xinerama12:13
ubottuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead12:13
ghostcubebut with xinerama no compiz12:13
ghostcubeu can clone twinview in nvidia-settings12:13
rajaI am having problems with shifting between kwin and compix12:16
neSSun0ocan anybody suggest a good alternative to network manager?12:16
ghostcubemanual configuration ?12:17
rajaI should have to use compiz because desktop effects in kde 4.1.1 is not working for me12:17
favroraja: you need to ask about kde4 stuff in #kubuntu-kde412:18
ghostcubecompiz help in compiz-fusion channel12:18
rajabut nobody is there to respond12:18
ghostcubekde4 is too buggy :|12:18
rajawhat do i do?12:18
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ghostcuberaja what is the problem ?12:19
ghostcubehave u tried fusion-icon to start compiz ?12:19
sales_guyghostcube: tell me about clone please12:19
ghostcubesales_guy: just type into google clone screen+twinview+kubuntu12:20
rajaThanks. My problem is, I can get desktop effects working in kde4.1.1 with compiz-but not with kde4's default window manager-kwin12:20
ghostcubewill show u all i think its not so hard but u can open nvidia-sttings and set all u want in the xserver tab12:20
ghostcuberaja: install the needed compiz packages and fusion-ivcon12:20
rajaAlso I cant have the compiz as the default composite manager after I am restarting x12:21
rajaI have installed all the necessary things from the repositories12:21
rajaIf I try compiz --replace, then the window frame disappears and cant continue12:22
rajaI think kde4 can't pick the user set window manager(composite manager) at startup12:23
rajaI have the fusion icon installed12:24
sales_guyghostcube: not helping12:25
sales_guyclone is a setting? Where does it go in xorg.conf12:25
rajaIs here anybody could figure out what's the actual problem?12:26
sales_guyIs there a keyboard shortcut to open the Kubuntu menu?12:26
sales_guy(applications menu)12:27
ActionParsnipyo yo yo12:29
sales_guyIs there a keyboard shortcut to open the Kubuntu menu?12:34
ghostcubesales_guy: save the edited xorg.conf and look into iot12:34
ghostcubesave to desktop12:34
ghostcuberaja: join compiz-fusion for compiz probs12:35
sales_guyyeah, unfortunately in Twinview I can't see the Kubuntu menu to open any of my applications or settings. Is there a short cut key to open it (like the lovely Windows key on my laptop)12:35
rajahow can I?12:36
ActionParsnipsales_guy: you can bind the power key to it if you want12:38
sales_guyso the answer is no12:38
ActionParsnipsales_guy: no its not no, you need to bind the scancode or event to make the menu popup12:39
kingE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:39
Rioting_pacifisthttp://pastebin.com/d7ad2da26 < i get that when trying to run spore, not sure if its wine causing the problem or X though12:39
ActionParsnipking: do you have synaptic open, is apt-get running?12:40
kinghow can i unlock apt *12:40
sales_guyYes, I have to do it, which means that NO there is nothing bound to it by default now, when I can't acces it12:40
kingnothing is opne12:40
kingwhen i use ps12:40
kingonly bash and ps12:40
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:40
Rioting_pacifist!apt-fix | king12:40
ubottuking: please see above12:40
Rioting_pacifistking ps is limited to bash unless you use ps -A12:41
kingok thx again12:42
ActionParsniphi lain_wired12:45
lain_wiredI'm looking for a application I've seen used several times. It seems to be a CPU and harddrive monitor.12:45
lain_wiredI'm not sure what it's called, but it seems able to handle transparency.12:45
lain_wiredAnyone know of something like that? I could probably find a picture.12:46
favro!info conky12:46
ubottuconky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 170 kB, installed size 524 kB12:46
lain_wiredhm. No.12:46
ActionParsnipconky or superkaramba12:46
lain_wiredIt doesn't seem right.12:46
ubottusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org12:47
lain_wiredMaWhat does superkaramba have to do with it then? o_O12:47
ActionParsniplain_wired: it can show cpu and ram usage12:48
lain_wiredOh, okay. =]12:49
Rioting_pacifistyour in kubuntu so id guess its a karama plugin, it will have a different name for the specific plugin though12:50
ActionParsnipwell this is kubuntu support12:52
lain_wiredhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=52079&file1=52079-1.jpg&file2=52079-2.jpg&file3=&name=FutureTech+BlackRed+Cyberpunk - i'll check karamba for it, and if you know what it is by sight, well here. =]12:54
ActionParsnipthat theme is ghastly12:55
lain_wiredAs in you hate it?12:56
lain_wiredI quite like it, but I think I'd get sick of it quickly.12:57
lain_wiredI found the app. It's called LappyMonitor12:57
lain_wiredIt's lovely.12:57
ActionParsniplain_wired: if it works for you then sweet12:59
lain_wiredHahah, I haven't installed the theme yet. Not sure if I even will.12:59
ubottugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.13:08
micettonerohi, i use ubuntu and i've installed kde4 from kubuntu repositories. how can i totally remove gnome?13:09
ActionParsnip!purekde | micettonero13:10
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »13:10
ubottumicettonero: please see above13:10
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:11
micettonerook thanks13:12
micettoneroanother question :D13:12
micettonerowhy doesn't sudo work on my kde4?13:12
micettonerosudo kwrite gives me command not found13:12
micettonerokdesudo kwrite too13:12
micettoneroor kdesudo kate etc.13:13
ActionParsnipmicettonero: you dont use sudo for gui apps13:13
ActionParsnipyou'll break the ownership13:13
ActionParsnipuse kdesu kate13:13
micettoneroneither kdesudo works13:13
micettoneroit gives me command not found13:13
ActionParsnipmaybe you havent installed kate or kwrite13:13
micettoneroi'm not so stupid :D13:13
ActionParsniphi dark_13:13
neSSun0oActionParnsip: if that could interest you i solved the prob by removing networkmanager and installing wicd, then removing the existing driver and installing http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt73-cvs-daily.tar.gz now it works good without any packet loss... i hope it will last a bit more than the last time :D13:13
ActionParsnipnice one bro13:14
ActionParsniponce ou know what chip you have you're running13:14
micettoneroanyway, kdesudo gedit (for example) works well13:14
neSSun0oapparently was the mix of networkmanager (a bad prog) and bad driver13:14
neSSun0onow it all works13:14
neSSun0oc ya13:15
mikzHi, Ive been having problems with my search engine script. When the page was loaded everything that was below the php code was deleted, until a search was made and results were placed on the page. Well, I've discovered that the problem was becasue of an exit command, which, as far as I can tell, ends the script and so the rest of the page isn't loaded, even though the php tag has been closed, and it affects the html.13:15
ActionParsnipmilz: id head into #php13:16
ActionParsnipmilz: its not a kubuntu issue, its a coding in php issue13:16
mikzom thanks for the links, every little helps13:17
Glady278 nicks13:39
ghostcubebut only 20 of them reponding13:40
ldpthis place isn't very active13:41
Maxawhere does that 20 come from... idle time, away status, what :)?13:41
Gladythey sleep with their laptop next to the pillow13:42
ghostcubehmm no just looked at the log13:42
ghostcubemore than 20 different names not helping in here13:42
ghostcubeit fluctuates maybe but ...13:42
ldpGlady: I do that a lot13:42
ghostcubemostly it depends on the region the guys from13:43
ghostcubeiam german so its later here13:43
Gladyso 20 on 275 are here in hour time13:44
ldpI'm from kuwait13:44
Gladysounds very few13:44
micettonerodoes anyone have this bug?13:50
micettonero(sudo and kdesudo don't work with kde apps)13:50
micettoneroit's so strange!13:51
ldpwho here thinks tht synaptic is a bloated poj?13:51
lain_wiredHiya all. Where exactly does kubuntu store its default kcsrc files? (themes, etc)13:57
lordraydenHi, I updated to FFox 3.0.2 in my Kubuntu 8.0.4 and when I try to login to my hotmail account it says that I should use Firefox ?! how do I make this go away, koz I USE Firefox...13:57
lain_wiredWhat's telling you this?13:57
ldpare you messing with us13:58
lordraydenand I AM using FF, I had no trouble with FF 3.0.213:59
lain_wiredThat sounds really suss.13:59
ldplordrayden: screenshot please13:59
lain_wiredHotmail is in bed with Microsoft. :\13:59
lain_wiredldp, any idea where system themes are stored?14:00
lain_wiredOh goddamn it, hayfever. *sneeze*14:00
ldp.theme, I think14:00
ldpsystem themes?14:00
elzamребята помогите...14:01
lain_wiredThe kcsrc files.14:01
elzamкак поменять кодировку в копете14:01
lain_wiredRight, that doesn't actually mean much to anyone else, but thanks.14:01
elzamа то сообщения приходят иероглифами!!14:01
little /usr/share/apps/14:01
lordraydenldp, I sent U a screenshot14:01
lordraydengot it?14:02
little /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/14:02
lain_wiredlordrayden: usually you upload images somewhere, rather than sending them to specific people.14:02
lain_wiredIt's kinda polite, and more people can help that way./14:02
lordraydenk, wait 1 min then14:02
lain_wiredthanks little14:02
lain_wiredlittle, this explains why so many themes on kde-look seem to not work very well.14:04
lain_wiredThey don't seem to be written correctly.14:04
littleHey, is the Documentation tab broken for anyone else on this page? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu14:05
lain_wiredHahah, yes. Unless it's supposed to give me index.php to download.14:05
littleYep, same here. (:14:06
lain_wiredThose silly linux users.14:06
Gladyhey u14:06
Gladystop insulting people14:06
GladyI'll kick u out on the butt14:07
littleChecking for signs of life in the development channel. (:14:07
lain_wiredI really hope that was a joke.14:07
Gladyit was not a joke14:07
lain_wiredUh... huh.14:07
lain_wiredWhat's weird?14:08
jussi01little: lain_wired you can report a bug...14:08
lain_wiredHaha, "Hey guys, there's a bug! ON YOUR WEBSITE!"14:08
littleYeah, I'm poking around on the site and haven't found the spot yet.14:09
Gladyhey the clown14:09
ldplordrayden: DCC fails14:09
ldpjust upload it on ImageShack or something14:09
littleBug Triage? To report that the tab isn't working?14:09
jussi01!bug | little:14:09
ubottulittle:: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots14:09
lain_wiredI'd do it, but I can't see, as my eyes are watering from hayfever. *sigh*14:09
jussi01little: website bugs go to launchpad also.14:10
lordraydenldp, I post it now on kubuntu forums and I'll be back with a link14:10
little<--- <passes lain a bottle of NyQuil>14:10
lain_wiredI'm not sure what NyQuil is, but thanks!14:10
littleIt will knock that Hayfever for a loop. (:14:10
lain_wiredWell that's good. =]14:11
ldpis there a kubuntu chat channel?14:11
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!14:11
ldpfound it14:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about clown14:12
lain_wiredldp: Where did lordrayden go?14:12
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about provocator14:12
lain_wiredClown? I really don't get it.14:12
jussi01!botabuse > Glady14:12
ubottuGlady, please see my private message14:12
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lain_wired14:12
lordraydenldp http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097762.0 is the link14:12
ldplain_wired: haha14:13
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines14:13
ldpjussi01: That was scary14:13
ldpI tend to get freaked when people OP themselves14:13
lordraydenldp - sorry it took me some time14:13
jussi01Just a reminder ladies and gents, this is a support channel, please take general chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic14:14
ldpno problem, :)14:14
Glady!kubuntu freaking show14:14
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:14
lain_wiredWell, lordrayden, there's a button right there that says continue.14:14
lain_wiredPerhaps... that may be of use?14:14
Gladybye friends14:15
lordraydenldp I wonder Y that happens, with the new improved version of firefox and if anyone else had this problem, and if there is a way to get rid of this nonsense :)14:16
ldpXorg fail14:16
Gladythe new version is tired to never get answers14:16
aarHi, is there any way of making KMail display email attachments on top of the message rather than at the bottom?14:16
Frekuturn screen around :)14:17
lain_wiredlordrayden: most likely, it doesn't recognize the browser and thinks it's very old or very uncommon.14:17
lordraydenmy browser isn't recommending itself as FF anymore :)14:17
aarFreku, good idea14:17
lain_wiredIt's probably something that will go away very soon.14:17
lordraydenk, tnx, I'll wait then :D14:18
lain_wired=] good idea.14:18
lordraydenwhen is FF 5 hitting the market :)) tnx guys, I appreciate UR time14:18
lain_wiredNo idea, not for a while I should think.14:19
lain_wiredNo problem.14:19
lain_wiredCome back any time. =]14:19
Gladythis place is Scientology church?14:19
lordraydenCU later, I get back to work now14:19
jussi01Glady: please keep on topic14:20
GladyI want to give money14:20
ldpGlady: you're just ticking him/her off now14:20
jussi01!donate | Glady14:20
ubottuGlady: To donate to Ubuntu, you can !participate or go to http://www.ubuntu.com/donations14:20
littleI filed the bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/27439414:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274394 in ubuntu "Documentation tab on the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs page is broken." [Undecided,New]14:20
lain_wiredHe meant he wanted to give money to COS.14:21
jussi01little: great! :)14:21
lain_wiredI wish trolling was illegal and resulted in violent death.14:21
littleThat was hard work! (:14:21
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littleI've never filed a bug report before, and being presented with a list of applications to choose from kind of threw me. (:14:22
lain_wiredAh. I can't remember the last time I filed a bug report.14:22
lain_wiredBack in the days when I was a young and naive advocate!14:22
lain_wiredUbuntu stickers on the walls, handing out LiveCDs in homegroup.14:23
littleWhich version of Kubuntu are you using?14:23
jussi01lain_wired: please, lets keep to support questions and answers :) you are very welcome to join #kubuntu-offtopic14:23
ldpI have to make an announcement14:23
ldpwrong tab14:23
lain_wiredKay, sorry.14:23
agunghello there14:24
littlejussie01, are you a moderator?14:24
agunghow can i know the version of kubuntu that i using??14:25
littleOr, more specifically, are you on the Kubuntu team?14:25
jussi01!version | agung14:25
ubottuagung: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell14:25
jussi01little: Im one of the operators here, yes14:25
littleI'm wondering how I find out what kind of contributing I can do to the Kubuntu wiki. The Documentation link on the development page is a blank slate and I'd love to do something with it, but I don't want to start something without knowing whether it would be welcome.14:26
agungsory i mean the version of KDE???14:27
Gladywe appreciate at least 60 hours of volonteer work a week14:27
Gladythanks little14:27
Gladyyou are welcoe14:27
jussi01Glady: thats not helpful14:27
Gladyyes yes14:27
Gladywe have a big lack in our wiki14:27
littleVersion of KDE. Open Konqueror (or any other KDE application) and click the Help menu and the About entry and it will tell you the version of KDE at the top.14:28
ibilickiwhat desktop wireless network adapter do you have that works out of the box in Kubuntu?14:28
Gladythe box is empty14:28
littleWell, I've been trying to help out the Ubuntu wiki, since Kubuntu is sort of a subset or... something... of Ubuntu. But I'm a Kubuntu user, so I'd love to specialize. (:14:29
Gladyexcellent idea14:29
Gladylittle u are our freind14:29
Gladyplease donate14:29
Gladyuse paypal14:29
jussi01little: Id drop into #kubuntu-devel and chat to them, there is a documentation channel, but I cant remember it now14:29
byteme_Good morning all14:30
littleNobody seems to reply in the development channel right now.14:30
byteme_the best time is in the PM14:30
littleI know this is probably going to sound stupid, but I'm using Konversation to be on here, and I get red text sometimes. Is that a whisper? And how do I send that way?14:31
jussi01little: yeah, just hang around a bit, it can be a little slow when people are busy with $reallife14:31
lain_wiredIt's so PM it's nearly AM.14:31
jussi01little: no, its just when someone mentions your nick14:31
littleThat makes sense.14:31
littleAh, okay, thanks!14:31
lain_wiredI love konversation. It's really brilliant.14:32
ldp+1 lain_wired14:33
littleI'm kind of a newbie when it comes to IRC, but a lot of these Kubuntu and Ubuntu pages mention IRC as a way to contact the team, so I thought I'd try it. (:14:33
lain_wiredFair enough. =]14:33
ldplain_wired: A friend of mine and I went on a krusde to konvert everyone to konvi once. We failed epically14:33
byteme_jussi01: how do I install tar.bz2?14:39
byteme_trying to install 'second life'14:40
ldpbrb people Badminton practice time14:40
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lain_wiredI'm bored.14:43
lain_wiredback later!14:43
byteme_thanks Freku14:43
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littleFor the record, in the event that anyone else wants to contribute to the wiki documentation of Kubuntu, I just logged onto the wiki and tried to create a page, and this is what it says: Note that documentation on this wiki should be moved to the new documentation wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community14:59
littleSo I guess it's official that all documentation is now at ubuntu.com.14:59
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milhi guys Nothing seems to happen even if I enable extra effects in Desktop Effects (Compiz).  I'm using KDE 3.915:26
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion15:28
milthanks ubottu yeah tried that so many times nothing happens.  Says Compiz is installed. Tried uninstalling and installing no effect.15:29
RurouniJonesThe channel is the bit you want15:31
RurouniJonesMore support is available there.15:31
Linux_Userhi all, i have many kernal entries in grub, I want to have the latest kernal and delete the rest, how to do thta?16:03
littleLinux_User: http://littlergirl.googlepages.com/GRUBTips.html16:06
littleBut for the record, it's a good idea to leave at least two, so if anything goes wrong, you have one to fall back on.16:07
Linux_UserThankyou very much Little16:08
littleYeah, good luck with it, and let me know if you have any trouble. My email is at the top if I'm not in here.16:09
Linux_UserLittle I could not find it. plz if u could write it here16:10
geremhi all, everyone have an adress for a french chanel about ubunutu for a noob, plz thx a lot16:11
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr16:11
littleLinux_User: littlergirl@gmail.com16:12
littleLinux_User: It's at the top right of the page. Maybe I should do a Contact The Author section instead. (:16:13
ldplittle: You're female? (sorry, just had to ask)16:13
littleYep, one hundred percent female. (:16:13
Linux_UserThank You very much little16:13
littleAny time. (:16:13
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jgauvillcé la matrice16:25
jmespletJCV connard de merde16:25
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:26
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neSSun0owhat's a good instant messaging client?16:27
jussi01neSSun0o: for which protocol?16:27
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:28
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neSSun0ojussi01: for MSN16:29
neSSun0oLjL: oh c'mon give me a break!16:29
LjLwhat's wrong with Kopete?16:29
jussi01neSSun0o: see what the bot said, but kopete, amsn and kmess are all candidates16:29
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LjLi can give you a "break" i suppose16:29
neSSun0okopete its fine16:30
neSSun0oamsn i dunno if its stable or not16:30
neSSun0okmess i dont know it at all16:30
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richardbhhas a new version of KDE been released today?16:37
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ldpMySQL, DAMN YOU!!!16:42
littleI've got a MySQL cheat sheet, if interested... (:16:47
ldplittle: It's not that. It's giving me problems16:47
ldpI can't change the dmin password16:47
ldpI forgot the previous one :blushes:16:48
ldplittle: Give the cheat sheet anyways :D16:48
littleYou could create another user with full privileges and then use that user to delete the original one. (:16:49
mdrI've set my shell environment via an edit (export PATH) of $HOME/.bashrc.  Dunno if this is the proper way but it works, I can run the apps from anywhere on the command line.   However, if use KDE's "run command" applet (alt-F2) the app won't run unless I give it the full path.  How do I remedy this situation?16:51
ldpI'm an idiot16:51
ldpA "COMPLETE" idiot16:51
ldpI completely forgot about the new user thing16:51
ldpand now, I'm reinstalling16:51
ldpidiocy to the limits16:51
littlemdr: I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think you could export /usr/bin as well as $HOME and then both would work. Anyone?16:53
littleldp: You'll remember it from now on. (:16:53
mdrI should of said, I edited ~/.bashrc  using PATH= and export PATH.  This worked fine for the shell but doesn't work if I launch said apps using alt-F2.  Thing is, it used to work on Dapper but I forgot what I did to get it to work :(  Hate it when that happens.   Maybe I edited .xinitrc??16:59
Assurbanipalhey guys...can someone plz tell me what the ideal sizes of partitions for a kuybuntu instalation is?16:59
littlemdr: Can you just add the path that you have to type into the run applet?16:59
mdryes it works then, (just a hassle)17:00
littlemdr: No, I mean can you add it to .bashrc where you added the other export path?17:00
mdroh i see what you're saying17:00
littleI've never done it, so I'm just tossing out ideas. (:17:01
Nece228does kubuntu 8.10 will have double vision releases17:01
littleAssurbanipal: That's a topic that's hotly debated the world over.17:01
Nece228like kubuntu kde 3 and kubuntu17:01
Assurbanipallittle, i m thinking of seperating system mount point and user(home) mount point.is this a good idea? and where will the data of installed programs be kept?17:03
Assurbanipallittle, any recomendation for those partitions' sizes?17:03
ldpye gods, I'm going to install openSUSE17:03
littleAssurbanipal: Yes, you can do this, and the programs will be kept in the places you define. When creating the home partition, create it under a different name and copy all your stuff over before unmounting and mounting as Home.17:04
mdrOn the desktop version, the default install just makes a swap partition and the one bit parttition for every thing else. No?   I think at least /home should be a seperate partition17:04
littleAssurbanipal: The sizes are what's hotly debated. The best I could suggest would be to take a good look at how much space each directory currently uses and give it at least that with room to spare.17:04
ldpdoesn't ubuntu automatically make seperate /home and / prtitions?17:04
ldpI don't know, because I always partition manually17:05
ldpArch does that17:05
ldphola amiga17:05
littleNope. By default it makes the /boot, /swap and / partitions, with the / partition containing the main system and the Home directory.17:05
eduardodisculpen hay alguien que me pueda asesorar  alevntar un servidor ftp en ubuntu?17:05
ldplittle: making a different /home partiton is good17:05
jussi01!es | eduardo17:06
ubottueduardo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:06
ldpbecause, I can make two distros share the same partition17:06
littleldp: Yeah, I agree. It sure makes installing a new version easier. I've never done it, though.17:06
ldpwhy not?17:06
ldpI've founf it useful17:06
mdralso on installs --  wipe out the root and keep the home17:06
ldpbecause it's kind of my hobby to crash systems17:06
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!17:06
littleI have my stuff so thoroughly backed up that it's not really a worry for me if I lost my Home. I can wipe this computer and reinstall and have everything back the way it is in just a few hours. (:17:07
mdryeah, aint it fun ldp!17:07
Assurbanipalin which partitins will the installed program files be kept? and will it be easier that way for later upgrades?17:07
ldpEVERYONE migrate17:07
jussi01thanks ldp :)17:07
jussi01Assurbanipal: thae actual files are in the root partition, but if you have a home partition then a lot of the settings are there17:08
mdrcan you put /home and / on seperate partitions after the install is already done?  Or do you need to reinstall17:08
ubottuYour home folder is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home folder to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome17:08
littleAssurbanipal: As far as I know, installations would go into specific directories in the root partition. Configuration that you've specified is stored in your Home partition.17:08
jussi01mdr: so thats a yes...17:09
littleYou definitely don't need to reinstall to move things to different partitions. Linux is wonderful. (:17:09
ldp+1 little17:09
ldplittle: do you run a server?17:10
Assurbanipalok, i see... so plz, some recomendation of sizes? would 10GB for system and 15Gb of user do ok?? also regarding future updates??17:10
ldpAssurbanipal: what is the size of your HDD?17:10
littleI run a virtual server (JeOS) under VirtualBox.17:10
Assurbanipalif i upgrade to kubuntu 8.10 when it will be released i mean17:10
ldpAssurbanipal: that would be fine (10 and 15)17:11
ldplittle: my system is too slow for me to run a virtual one17:11
ldpbut I might try that once in a while17:11
ldpmy latest project is FreeBSD17:11
littleAssurbanipal: You can change the size of partitions later if you find that a partition isn't quite big enough, or is too big.17:12
Assurbanipalit is 60GB. but i will also need some space for windows as i use m laptop for work17:12
Assurbanipali hope i won;t waste any space that way,,17:12
Assurbanipallittle, how coult i do that?? full disk space will be used, i will have installed windows too.. could the partitions be resized?17:13
littleldp: Mine used to be.17:13
ldpMySQL, I hte you17:14
ldpWhenever I try to change something. it sys "Access Denied"17:14
littleAssurbanipal: I recommend looking at how much space you're currently using with the df -h command in a terminal window. Then right-click the /home folder to see how big it is. If you want to create a separate /home partition, you'll need to make it at least as big as it currently is, but most likely bigger so you have room for new files.17:15
littleAssurbanipal: Also, once you decide to repartition, however much space you give to the new /home partition will need to be removed from the / partition so it can be given to the new partition.17:15
littleAssurbanipal: I use http://gparted.sourceforge.net/17:16
littleAssurbanipal: It's a wonderful program which can be run from CD. I've found it to be very stable for resizing partitions. I don't know about everyone else, but I've never lost any data as a result of using it.17:17
littleldp: Did you log in successfully?17:17
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ldplittle: fixed it17:17
littleWhoever it was that asked about KDE 3 and KDE 4, the development team says KDE 3 won't be released in the new versions <sigh>.17:18
littleldp: Yay!17:18
littleldp: What was wrong? <--- curiosity killed the cat and all that (:17:19
littleAssurbanipal: But just in case, back up everything before trying this!17:20
jeroen-does anyone know how to be able to connect to a kde remote desktop (krdc) with Ubuntu?17:21
jeroen-t gives a password, but doesnt want to login with vinagre17:21
jeroen-krdc uses vnc right?17:21
Tm_Tjeroen-: IIRC no17:24
littlejeroen: Is this of any use? http://www.debianadmin.com/remote-desktop-sharing-in-ubuntu.html17:24
Tm_Tjeroen-: ah, sorry, it does17:25
ja1What would be the best calendar program you know of?17:31
SarasvatiHello :)17:42
SarasvatiQuestion: My professor told us we have to use the program endnote, but does anyone know if there's a linuxversion of that program or something that looks like it?17:43
littleIt looks like Bibus might be an equivalent for Endnote: http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page17:47
Ahmuckhi.  i need to change my video resolution.  how?17:48
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mdrEndnote is a commercial program.  Its windows and mac, and the mac may have to be intel based.  Don't know if there's a linux equivalent17:49
SarasvatiJust found something called Kbib on the internet, but I can't find it in adept updater17:50
Ahmuckendnote on linux17:50
littleAhmuck: Are you using a special driver, or is your video driver supplied by Kubuntu?17:50
Ahmuckacutally i'm in kubuntu.  i have a large screen and want to reduce it to 10xx by 6xx17:51
Ahmucker, xubuntu17:51
SarasvatiKbib sounds better, but I can't find it in adept updater17:51
Ahmuckbut there is some command line thingy i can't remember for reconfiguring17:51
littleIt used to be Ctrl Alt -  and Ctrl Alt +  but those don't seem to work any more.17:54
littleKubuntu Forums post on changing resolutions: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3096276.017:58
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nikolas__is the release date of ubuntu 8.10 known?18:16
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ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!18:20
richardbhhi - when I logged on after a full update today, it ran a desktop setup wizard - is this normal? Kubuntu now makes a lot more noise than before; maximising, opening, closing etc.18:20
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nicholasstormanDoes anyone know where I can get to edit the applications menu?18:48
nicholasstormanDoes anyone know where the applications menu is located18:51
jussi01nicholasstorman: just right click iirc18:52
nicholasstormanI don't want to pm someone unless I have permission18:53
jussi01nicholasstorman: no, you can edit the applications menu with a right click...18:54
jussi01open it, then right click on it...18:54
nicholasstormanI know but it's not in .config it's somewhere else18:54
CostaRicanQuakerhelp, for some reason when i open a file on abiword or openoffice and i try to alter it, nothing will type...as in no characters appear when typing, what's the problem?18:57
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bastid_raZorfor KDE3 when might 2.2.7 of Ktorrent be released?19:11
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administratorcan anyone help me out19:34
administratori have a question19:34
icyfeetAbout what?19:35
Ash-FoxCaution, administrador is private messaging users here.19:36
administratorterminal showz an error in my host name19:36
administratorsorry am new here19:36
rickestadministrator: just state your problem specifically, if someone can help they will19:38
administratorcompiz check is not getting loaded19:38
administratori loaded kubuntu on ubuntu8.0419:39
rickestwhat is "compiz check"?19:39
administratorits for special effects of the desktop19:40
administratori believe19:40
administratorthis site can give more info19:41
rickestcompiz-check just tells you if compiz will work.  does compiz-check show a problem?19:42
administratorthis is the error i c19:46
xmanherewhat error ?19:46
administratoradministrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ compiz-check --version19:46
administratorbash: compiz-check: command not found19:46
administratoradministrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ sudo compiz-check --version19:46
administratorsudo: unable to resolve host malik2007@vsnl.net19:46
administrator[sudo] password for administrator: sendmail: warning: valid_hostname: invalid character 64(decimal): malik2007@vsnl.net19:46
administratorsendmail: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter myhostname: bad parameter value: malik2007@vsnl.net19:46
administratoractually i had changed my host name19:47
rickestno idea, have never used compiz-check.  Have you followed a guide for installing compiz on Kubuntu?19:47
administratorearlier in ubuntu19:47
administratoryeah i did ric19:47
administratorbtw  can i correct my hostname to default19:48
rickestforgetting about compiz-check for a minute, what happens when you run kde/compiz?19:48
administratorokay ric19:48
administratorit showed errors in my host name19:48
administratoraomething which i did not copy19:48
rickestwhat does 'hostname -f' say?19:48
administratoradministrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ hostname -f19:49
administratorhostname: Unknown host19:49
administratorthat is what it says19:50
rickesttry setting it: hostname [some_name_here]19:51
RenzoreKIs it true that now proprietary multimedia codecs are only for sale, making Kubuntu commercialized?19:52
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administrator[11:24] <administrator> it is now changed from root19:59
administrator[11:24] <administrator> sucessfully19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> administrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ hostname arshad19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> hostname: you must be root to change the host name19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> administrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ sudo hostname arshad19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> sudo: unable to resolve host malik2007@vsnl.net19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> sendmail: warning: valid_hostname: invalid character 64(decimal): malik2007@vsnl.net19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> sendmail: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter myhostname: bad parameter value: malik2007@vsnl.net19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> administrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ sudo -i19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> sudo: unable to resolve host arshad19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> sendmail: warning: valid_hostname: invalid character 64(decimal): malik2007@vsnl.net19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> sendmail: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter myhostname: bad parameter value: malik2007@vsnl.net19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> root@arshad:~# hostname arshad19:59
administrator[11:25] <administrator> root@arshad:~#19:59
administrator[11:26] <administrator> d u copy me................... rick???19:59
jussi01!paste | administrator20:01
ubottuadministrator: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:01
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rickestadministrator: so you set your hostname now?20:17
administratorya i did20:19
administratoramm unable to install compiz fusion on kubuntu20:25
administratorerrors here20:25
threewood_Does anyone know why Firefox starts on a seemingly random desktop instead of on my active one?20:29
axel_Hello! Is there a way to access a MS exchange server with kmail?20:37
RenzoreKDoes anyone know the command line argument to lock my session?20:40
nielsslotRenzoreK: for KDE3, try what it says here http://www.debianhelp.org/node/911420:56
RenzoreKnielsslot: Thanks, worked21:01
Assurbanipalhi guys, i am installin kubuntu, can someone help me out partitioning?21:01
axel_Assurbanipal: OK.21:02
axel_Assurbanipal: Do you have any other operating systems on the HDD you want to install Kubuntu on?21:03
Assurbanipalaxel_, i want one partition for the system files and another for the home partition... i also have xp on the systemn21:03
Assurbanipalaxel_, i want a 15gb for the system files partition and 10 for the user (home)21:04
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axel_Assurbanipal: Do you have to "decrease" the the XP-partition?21:04
Assurbanipalaxel_, i am in the installation screen where i select the partitions. which mount point should i select for each?? and do you think the size of each partition is ok??i do not need to touch the xp partition21:05
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Assurbanipalaxel_, got 45gb free21:05
Assurbanipalaxel_, unpartitioned space21:05
axel_Assurbanipal: 15gb for the system files is a little bit too much - in my opinion.21:06
axel_Assurbanipal: Do you have any experiences with Linux so far?21:06
Assurbanipalaxel_, ok,10gb then?? it must be enough for future upgrades...21:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin21:07
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:07
Assurbanipalaxel_, i ve been using kubuntu for a while,but this is the first time i install it like that, in seperated partitions for user and system21:07
axel_Assurbanipal: Currently my system files are about 5GB.21:07
axel_Assurbanipal: 10 gb should be OK.21:07
Assurbanipalaxel_, so, 10gb for system... will this be enough for os and progs?21:07
sourcemakerapt will autoremove the following packages... it's this wrong for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/50614/21:07
sourcemakerusing kde 4.1.121:08
axel_Assurbanipal: Do you burn DVD+/-R DL?21:08
axel_Assurbanipal: Double layer.21:08
Assurbanipalno... not so far,haven't needed it21:08
axel_Assurbanipal: It depends on the programs you install. But I think It21:09
axel_'s OK.21:09
Assurbanipalok, 10 it will be then...21:10
axel_Assurbanipal: Wich programms do you want to install.21:10
Assurbanipalnohting special i think so far... no too many extras.. but i do need to be able to copy dvd's with k9copy for example..21:10
axel_Assurbanipal: Background for the DVD-Question. K3B stores the tmp-files on the system partition. If there is not enough space on this partition you have to change the directory. That's all.21:11
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Assurbanipalok, so 10 gb will be enough u say21:11
administratorrick u there21:12
axel_Assurbanipal: It depends on k9copy stores its tmp-files. Usually you should be able to select the tmp-directory.21:12
axel_Assurbanipal: 10 gb should be enough.21:12
Assurbanipalok, it will be 12gm + 2 gb swap = 15gb, fair enough?21:12
Assurbanipalhaha i meant 13gb!21:13
sourcemakerist autoremove always safe?21:13
axel_Assurbanipal: 13gb for the system partition?21:13
administratori hav a queation21:13
administratori hav a qustion21:13
Assurbanipaland another 10 for the user?21:13
administratorAssur can u help m21:14
Assurbanipalor maybe 15gb for the user-total of 30gb21:14
axel_Assurbanipal: I think you will use 50% of it. But OK. Let's move foward.21:14
axel_Assurbanipal: The rest of the 45GB is for the home-partition?21:14
Assurbanipali will make a "share" partition for both windows and linux21:15
Assurbanipalso i was thinking for a 15gb home partition21:15
administratordo i need to  wait21:15
axel_Assurbanipal: It depends on the files you want to store on that partition. For me 15gb would be a little bit too small.21:16
axel_Assurbanipal: Please notice that the FAT32 filesystem does only support files with the max size of 2GB.21:16
Assurbanipalok, let's start with the system partition. it will be 12 gb and the type primary right?21:17
Assurbanipal(the shared partition will be ntfs"21:17
axel_Assurbanipal: Type: primary21:17
axel_Assurbanipal: mountpoint: /21:17
Assurbanipalext3 journaling right?21:17
axel_Assurbanipal: That's standard. I'd not change it.21:18
Assurbanipalok this is the system partition right??21:18
axel_Assurbanipal: Y21:18
Assurbanipaldone with it!21:18
Assurbanipallets go to the user's partition now21:18
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axel_Assurbanipal: One word for the exchange-partition. Linux can write on NTFS-partitions but it can't handle the "owner"-information.21:19
Assurbanipalmeaning what?21:19
axel_Assurbanipal: That means that it mght be that you store a file with Linux on that partition and you need to have admin-rights under windows to be able to read it.21:20
Assurbanipali will have admin rights21:20
axel_Assurbanipal: Than that should not be a problem.21:21
Assurbanipalno probs with that..21:21
axel_Assurbanipal: OK. Let21:21
axel_Assurbanipal: Let's move to the home-partition (partition with the user-data)21:21
Assurbanipalso the users partition will also be a primary, ext3 again right?21:21
axel_Assurbanipal: Type: does not matter21:22
axel_Assurbanipal: mountpoint: /home21:22
Assurbanipalthat was it?21:22
axel_Assurbanipal: Filesystem: ext3 (I'd suggest)21:22
Assurbanipalnow i only need the swap file right? about 2gb?21:22
axel_Assurbanipal: It's a swap-partition but otherwhise you are right.21:23
axel_Assurbanipal: How much RAM do you have?21:23
axel_Assurbanipal: OK. 2GB is lagre but OK.21:24
Assurbanipalshould it be smaller u think?21:24
Assurbanipali don;t knw if it matters but i am on a laptop21:24
axel_Assurbanipal: one sec please.21:24
stdindo you need hibernation support?21:24
Assurbanipaldoes it work/? i don't think it does... but should it work,i d loke to have it21:25
axel_Assurbanipal: With 2gb you won't be too small.21:25
stdinif you want it then your swap should be at least 1.5x RAM21:26
Assurbanipalok 2gb then21:26
axel_Assurbanipal: I'd do that.21:27
axel_Assurbanipal: then the exchange-partition.21:27
axel_Assurbanipal: OR?21:27
Assurbanipali will fix it later mate..21:27
axel_Assurbanipal: OK. Any further questions so far?21:28
Assurbanipal:) i was only troubled with the seperated system/user partitions21:28
Assurbanipalno,i think i am ok now...21:28
Assurbanipali suppose the advantage of what i did is that it offers more security to the files i wil be working on,right?21:28
axel_Assurbanipal: When you mount the exchange partition its mountpoint should be /media/[something like exchange]21:28
Assurbanipalmeaning that if i reinstall/upgrade for some reason kubuntu, they will not be touched right?21:29
axel_Assurbanipal: For me it's convenience. You can exchange the Linux-distribution without having to configure the programs again.21:30
axel_Assurbanipal: You culd also encrypt this partition.21:30
RenzoreKOnce you reinstall the programs ;)21:30
Assurbanipalok,i see!21:30
axel_Assurbanipal: recomenndable for laptops21:30
Assurbanipalnot for desktops?21:30
axel_RenzoreK Assurbanipal: OK. you have to reinstall them but you do not have to configure them again21:31
axel_Assurbanipal: When the desktop is in a secure environment (environment just trustworthy persons have access to).21:32
RenzoreKaxel_: I know that, this is how my system is set up, Im just making it clear for some users that if you change distros, your personal files, and programs won't be there. Just the raw files (and configs) if they are on a seperate partition, you need to reinstall all your programs (First time I did this I didn't know which programs I had installed )21:32
axel_Assurbanipal: It also depends on how paranoid you are. ;)21:32
Assurbanipalaxel_,  :P21:33
axel_Assurbanipal: But for a mobile system encripting all partitions is a good thing to do. Just imagine you loose your laptop.21:34
Assurbanipalafter i create the swap partition... it says that the remaining 10gb is "unusable".21:34
axel_Assurbanipal: Strange. I have no idea.21:34
Assurbanipalwhy that?shouldn't i be able to create more partitions??21:34
favroyou can only have 4 primary partitions21:35
axel_Assurbanipal: I'd just try it.21:35
Assurbanipalwhat do u guys mean?? what should i do? don't wanna lose that 10gb of space!21:35
axel_favro Assurbanipal: that's right. But why shouldn't it be possible to create secondary partitions?21:36
axel_Assurbanipal: Just for testing: Try to create a secondary partition.21:36
favroan extended partition is a primary one21:36
Assurbanipalshould i just make the swap partition lgical?21:36
Assurbanipalok,now it works///21:37
axel_Assurbanipal: you could make the home-partition logical.21:37
Assurbanipali get the "new partition" option enabled21:37
Assurbanipalshould i make them both? if i do so,will i be able to resize later if needed?21:38
axel_Assurbanipal: as far as I know the main difference between the partition types is that primary partitions are bootable.21:38
Assurbanipalok,then i should make them both logical and that's all,right? both swap and home partitions?21:38
axel_Assurbanipal: I have no experience resizing partitions with ext3 filesystems.21:39
favroextended ones can be bootable as well21:39
axel_favro: really? That's new to me.21:39
Assurbanipalfavro, so what's the difference?21:39
Assurbanipal(i 've made both home and swap partitions logical)21:40
favrowhat do you mean what's the diff?21:40
Assurbanipal(should i continue this way)21:40
axel_Assurbanipal favro:CU!21:40
Assurbanipalbye axel_ tnx!21:41
Assurbanipalfavro, if i continue with both partitions as logical will it be ok?21:41
favrosure it will :)21:41
administratori hav a prob here21:48
administratoradministrator@arshad:~$ ccsm21:48
administratorGConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.21:48
administratorGConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.21:48
administratorGConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.21:48
administratorGConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.21:48
administratorcan anyone help21:48
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marekt hi is it ossible to install apps on windows mobile device from linux?22:11
doc_hi. i could use some support, i am unable to upgrade from 6.10 -> 7.04 (error: 404 not found)22:14
soniahi i want to go from kubuntu to ubuntu can someone tell me hoe??22:15
soniai have been trying to install skype on kubuntu is just cant get it22:16
soniais there anyone here22:16
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Assurbanipalguys, i 've installed kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 remix, how do i upgrade to kde 4.1?22:35
edgyHi, how can I set the clock in the panel to show 12h time instead of the current 24h?22:38
rickestedgy: right-click the clock, date & time format, time format22:40
edgyrickest: when I right-click there is no option date and time format. I have "Digital Clock Settings" I tried this but can't see a way to change the format. this is kde422:42
rickestedgy: ah, I don't know KDE4.  you've obviously looked under Dig Clck Settings, I take it22:43
edgyrickest: yes I can change the font, color, timezone, year but can't change the format. let me ask in #kubuntu-kde4 and see ...22:44
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richardbhas i logon i get an error sound - does anyone know where the kde(?) log file is kept?23:03
novacrashercan someone help me install a program from a tar.gz file? I am used to using adept :)23:06
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novacrasherI extracted the tar.gz file using ark into a directory but I can't seem to find a shell file to run... Any suggestons?23:08
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diego_Buenas noches a todos/a23:33
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:33
diego_Good night for everybody from Spain23:33
eagles0513875lol whoops#23:33
eagles0513875sry diego lol thought you needed the spanish channel23:33
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HazaEvening folks. Im using Kubuntu 7. Is there anything i need to know before i upgrade to kubuntu 8?23:49
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richardbhis there any way to find out what caused an error noise to be played?23:56
eagles0513875google richardbh23:56
richardbheagles0513875: any suggestions as to keywords? I keep turning up results about problems with sounds23:57
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richardbhmy problem is that I know theres an error somewhere whenever I log on, because the error thunk noise plays...i just dont know what the error is23:58
eagles0513875richardbh: you could also check dmesg or in the /proc or in /var/logs23:58

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