[00:03] <ibilicki> when will the beta for Intrepid Ibex be available?
[00:08] <Denise> dr_willis
[00:08] <Denise> help
[00:08] <Denise> I m encultivated in a cult
[00:10] <Denise> hello
[00:10] <Denise> kidding
[00:27] <king> hi guys
[00:28] <king> how can i make konqueror my default file manager
[00:28] <king> whenever i try to click on a device dolphi  is started
[01:10] <Denise> ok
[01:10] <Denise> good night
[01:10] <Denise> it seems I'll have no answer
[01:11] <o0Chris0o> patience goes a long way
[01:12] <o0Chris0o> !patience | Denise
[01:12] <Denise> lol
[01:12] <Denise> okay
[01:12] <Denise> night
[01:12] <Denise> thanks chris
[01:37] <OzoneNerd> I have a laptop and I was wondering if any one else has the following problem:  When I'm typing for a while sometimes my mouse acts as if it was clicked.  This is annoying because it causes me to either lose focus on the text box or start typing in the middle of what I had already typed.  I don't see this happen when I use the same computer under Windows XP.
[01:37] <coreymon77> you sure youre not accidentaly touching your trackpad?
[01:38] <coreymon77> i sometimes do that when typing notes at school
[01:39] <OzoneNerd> coreymon77: I thought it may be that, but that doesn't explain why I don't see it under Windows.
[01:40] <coreymon77> fluke?
[01:40] <OzoneNerd> coreymon77: It may be some difference in settings, perhaps Kubuntu is more sensitive...
[01:40] <coreymon77> my guess is that your palm is just accidentally touching the trackpad when typing
[01:40] <OzoneNerd> Does anyone know of a mouse sensitivity setting under kubuntu.
[01:41] <OzoneNerd> coreymon77: It may well be a fluke too.
[01:41] <coreymon77> look in system prefs
[01:41] <coreymon77> under mouse
[01:41] <OzoneNerd> system prefs = system settings?
[01:41] <coreymon77> should be there
[01:41] <coreymon77> thats what i meant
[01:42] <OzoneNerd> The only applicable one I see is pointer threshold which is specified in pixels.
[01:42] <OzoneNerd> That probably determines whether a widget should get clicked on though.
[01:43] <coreymon77> i dunno
[01:43] <coreymon77> look around in the settings
[01:43] <coreymon77> check google about adjusting trackpad sensitivity
[01:45] <OzoneNerd> I get this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4952350  I don't see any sensitivity slider.
[01:46] <OzoneNerd> I'll try editing the xorg.conf ... CAREFULLY...
[01:46] <coreymon77> dont
[01:47] <coreymon77> do some more google searching
[01:47] <coreymon77> maybe specify kubuntu rather than ubuntu
[02:09] <tacosarecool> Hello
[02:10] <tacosarecool> Is my console suppose to say user@user-desktop
[02:10] <tacosarecool> The -desktop part seems weird
[02:10] <coreymon77> no
[02:10] <coreymon77> its fine
[02:10] <tacosarecool> Ok
[02:10] <coreymon77> thats your computer name
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> tacosarecool: that's also configurable once you get into linux a bit
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> mine is user@lappy-486 (i'm a bit of a strongbad fan)
[02:15] <coreymon77> meh, i hav a naming scheme for all of my electronics
[02:16] <coreymon77> i always do C (the first letter of my name) followed by what the thing is
[02:23] <tacosarecool> This command won't work for some reason I'll just keep on trying it
[02:26] <DreadKnight> !virtualbox
[02:27] <DreadKnight> anyone knows a guide for how to recompile the virtualbox kernel module?
[02:27] <coreymon77> vrtualbox?
[02:27] <ign0ramus> DreadKnight: you updated your kernel, and now vbox won't run?
[02:27] <coreymon77> why are you using that
[02:27] <coreymon77> vmware is much better
[02:28] <DreadKnight> ign0ramus: something like that :-) happened a lot of times; heard intrepid won't have this issue anymore
[02:28] <DreadKnight> coreymon77: vmware open source? ^^
[02:28] <coreymon77> vmware player is
[02:28] <DreadKnight> !vmware
[02:28] <ign0ramus> DreadKnight: if you download the .deb from Sun, and re-install it, it should work. I had the same issue a few weeks ago
[02:29] <DreadKnight> never used vmware.. only familiar with vbox, the open source edition .. only one i found my way with
[02:29] <ign0ramus> DreadKnight: make sure you grab the PUEL version
[02:29] <coreymon77> umm, thats the point
[02:29] <coreymon77> vmware is much easier to use
[02:29] <coreymon77> much more intuitive
[02:29] <coreymon77> since vmware as a company has had much more experience with the technology
[02:30] <DreadKnight> hmm
[02:30] <DreadKnight> ign0ramus: ose edition :P
[02:30] <DreadKnight> coreymon77: ok.. so i have some .iso images i wanna try out (linux distros)
[02:31] <DreadKnight> how would i proceed?
[02:31] <ign0ramus> vmware player doesn't allow you to create new images
[02:31] <coreymon77> much more experience + big corporate backing usually = better/more intutive product
[02:31] <coreymon77> ign0ramus: ya, but easyvmx does
[02:32] <DreadKnight> :\
[02:32] <coreymon77> ign0ramus: plus you could always just download vmware workstation as the 30 day free trial to create the images
[02:32] <coreymon77> then use player to run them
[02:32] <DreadKnight> seems like more complicated to get into / set up
[02:32] <coreymon77> nope
[02:32]  * DreadKnight goes to find out how to recompile kernel module
[02:32] <coreymon77> but, if you dont want to bother, than be my guest
[02:32] <DreadKnight> :D
[02:33] <DreadKnight> it has a GUI at least?
[02:33] <coreymon77> yes
[02:33] <ign0ramus> coreymon77: although shared folders in Vbox are a pain... any better in vmware?
[02:33] <coreymon77> vmware is entirely gui
[02:33] <coreymon77> ign0ramus: seamless from what i have seen
[02:33] <coreymon77> well, nearly
[02:33] <DreadKnight> ign0ramus: www.getdropbox.com    best thing for sharing/back-up/sync
[02:33] <ign0ramus> coreymon77: well, once they're set up in Vbox, they work fine, but setting them up is a pain
[02:34] <coreymon77> vmware is entirely gui based
[02:34] <coreymon77> so, i tend to find it much easier is aspects such as those
[02:34] <ign0ramus> DreadKnight: I refuse to back up my personal files on an online database
[02:34] <coreymon77> install vmware tools and bingo, nearly seamless
[02:34] <DreadKnight> xD
[02:35] <DreadKnight> i'm not even sure where to install it from coreymon77
[02:35] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[02:35] <ign0ramus> DreadKnight: ubottu just told you
[02:35] <coreymon77> of course, vmware player, being free and open source, is not vmwares strongest and most inntegrated product, but oh well
[02:35] <coreymon77> !vmware | DreadKnight
[02:35] <ign0ramus> but... it's free
[02:36] <coreymon77> ign0ramus: exactly
[02:36] <MachinTrucChose> I'm looking for a decent archiver that will integrate with Konqueror. I want to be able to right-click a bunch of files, and have the option to put them in an archive. The default archiver (Ark) fails miserably at this.
[02:36] <DreadKnight> i have hardy
[02:36] <ign0ramus> MachinTrucChose: p7zip?
[02:36] <DreadKnight> no vmware-player around..
[02:36] <coreymon77> DreadKnight: jsut look at the links
[02:36] <ign0ramus> not sure if that has a gui mode, though :/
[02:36] <coreymon77> !info vmware
[02:37] <MachinTrucChose> ign0ramus: how do Linux users typically archive files? They go to the command-line every time?
[02:37] <coreymon77> !info vmware-player
[02:37] <ign0ramus> MachinTrucChose: i don't like admitting this, but i still use winrar under wine just because it is still (imho) the most comprehensive gui-based archiver
[02:37] <ign0ramus> MachinTrucChose: ark is good for simple tasks, but gui-wise, it fails a lot
[02:38] <ign0ramus> !archive
[02:38] <MachinTrucChose> ign0ramus: probably a good idea. I miss Winrar.
[02:38] <DreadKnight> don't use ark-kde4
[02:39] <ign0ramus> DreadKnight: i know. sucks hard.
[02:39] <DreadKnight> :-)
[02:39] <ign0ramus> MachinTrucChose: no one here will like this, but honestly, winrar works perfectly in wine
[02:40] <ign0ramus> ark is also very flaky with encrypted archives
[02:40] <ign0ramus> unrar is pretty powerful, but not good if you want a gui
[02:40] <MachinTrucChose> ign0ramus: I don't get it, why doesn't someone integrate 7zip or something? I use it at work on my Windows PC, it's pretty decent. How hard would it be to hook it in Konqueror?
[02:40] <ign0ramus> MachinTrucChose: licensing.
[02:40] <MachinTrucChose> it's FOSS
[02:41] <MachinTrucChose> LGPL license
[02:41] <ign0ramus> MachinTrucChose: from the home page: "Most of the source code is under the GNU LGPL license."
[02:43] <ign0ramus> MachinTrucChose: in any event, Kubuntu will most likely use some KDE app as a default archiver... but it's open source, so you do whatever you want
[02:44] <ubuntu> i just upgraded to ibex, but i cant get networking to work
[02:45] <ign0ramus> Tinason: that's nowhere near enough information to even begin troubleshooting
[02:45] <ign0ramus> Tinason: also, it's still Alpha, isn't it?
[02:46] <ign0ramus> try #ubuntu+1
[02:46] <Tinason> i installed hardy, networking worked just fine, out of the box . then i put ibex a6 on, and networking doesnt work at all
[02:46] <Tinason> thanks
[02:47] <ign0ramus> Tinason: #ubuntu+1 is your Intrepid channel, but i definitely see more questions than answers... good luck to you
[03:25] <thedark> hello everyone
[03:30] <DreadKnight> how do i add an user to vboxusers group thingy?
[03:30] <DreadKnight> command line
[03:32] <rlane> I was wondering if KDE 4.1 was good enough to use as an everyday desktop (opinions)? I'm using KDE 3.5.10. Thank  You.
[03:32] <genii> DreadKnight: sudo usermod -G newgroupname username -a                     <-- the -a is uber important otherwise newgroupname is the only group they will belong to
[03:33] <DreadKnight> sudo usermod -G vboxusers dread -a
[03:33] <DreadKnight> ...Usage: usermod [options] LOGIN
[03:35] <DreadKnight> genii: thanks but something wrong.. need to create the group first perhaps?
[03:37] <genii> DreadKnight: Yes the group needs to exist first
[03:37] <genii> DreadKnight: You can try also alternate syntax of:   sudo usermod -G -a vboxusers dread
[03:38] <DreadKnight> yeah, i'm making some progress
[03:42] <thedark> how do I add Japanese input support to Kubuntu 8.04?
[03:42] <jimmy51_home> hello, i've connected to my corporate vpn using the cisco anyconnect client.  i can ping my windows workstation.... how can i RDP into it?  (i can RDP in from windows easy)
[03:43] <jimmy51_home> running kubuntu 8.04 by the way
[03:44] <DreadKnight> genii: thanks for the help; managed to fix this shit :-) (not the first time i stumble into issues with virtualbox...)
[03:45] <genii> DreadKnight: np. Remember to use that command with caution since if forget the -a the user will only be in the one group and no others including their native one
[03:45] <DreadKnight> xD
[03:48] <jimmy51_home> AH
[03:49] <jimmy51_home> rdp:/ipaddress
[03:49] <jimmy51_home> got it
[04:11] <Ash-Fox> Is there a active news group for Kubuntu?
[04:12] <crzyboi_Laptop> i dont know
[04:12] <crzyboi_Laptop> but when is the next version coming out?
[04:12] <Ash-Fox> crzyboi_Laptop, they generally come out in six month intervals
[04:12] <crzyboi_Laptop> ya
[04:13] <chipbuddy> i'm trying to use ssh on my laptop to log into my desktop. when the laptop has a wired connection it works, but when i'm wireless it doesn't. i think it might be because ssh is trying to use the wired connection when i am wireless. does this sound plausible, and how do i fix it?
[04:13] <crzyboi_Laptop> Ash-Fox, prbly sometime in october
[04:13] <crzyboi_Laptop> thats when it was last yr
[04:13] <Ash-Fox> Might be November, seems it gets delayed slightly all the time.
[04:14] <crzyboi_Laptop> hardy heron came out on time
[04:17] <genii> There is now talk of offsetting Kubuntu rellleases from regular Ubuntu releases by 4 months to synchronise with KDE release schedules
[04:18] <d0wn> chipbuddy: do you have the ports forwarded?
[04:18] <chipbuddy> d0wn i set the to open with firestarter... is port forwarding something different?
[04:19]  * crzyboi_Laptop will bbl
[04:22] <d0wn> chipbuddy: when you have it connected via ethernet, is it going through your router, or directly into the desktop?
[04:40] <surgy> hello
[04:40] <mr---t-> /mw buys coffee for everyone
[04:40] <genii> Yay, coffee!
[04:40] <surgy> where can i download nice screen savers? i want something that really shows off my gfx card
[04:41] <surgy> surely theres some in the repos right?
[04:41] <mr---t-> g i like the standard ones
[04:41] <surgy> i dont they are weak
[04:42] <mr---t-> !compiz
[04:42] <surgy> compiz blows
[04:45] <genii> surgy: http://parker1.co.uk/eternity/
[04:46] <surgy> awsome thnx genii
[04:46] <genii> surgy: np
[04:46] <surgy> btw mind if i ask where you keep your bottle?
[04:47] <genii> surgy: In my vest pocket, full of scotch ;)
[04:47] <mr---t-> top drawer , doesn't everyone?
[04:47] <surgy> lol
[04:48] <surgy> i ment the one he lives in lol
[04:49] <mr---t-> sip slowly young friend
[04:50] <surgy> anyone else have sporadic problems with the medibuntu repo?
[04:50] <mr---t-> all of my actions with kubuntu are sweetness and light
[04:50] <surgy> lol
[04:51] <surgy> you say that as you pound your head into your monitor?
[04:51] <surgy> ok im off to watch 3 kings
[04:52] <surgy> i heard its a dfecent flick
[04:52] <mr---t-> no , actually I'm a reformed windows guy , windows =crash every other month , kubuntu no crashes yet
[04:52] <surgy> ill catch you guys latters, and thanx again for the screen saver link genii
[04:52] <genii> surgy: Have FUN :)
[04:53] <surgy> mr---t-: same here, only problem is that it will never crash, and when its time to add something i cant make it crash! some times i yearn for a crash to tell me i did something wrong, instead of just an "it might have worked! GRATS!"
[04:53] <surgy> latter guys
[05:09] <niall> hi
[05:09] <niall> anyone know how to get dual monitors going with an nvidia card?
[05:16] <o0Chris0o> !dual
[05:17] <o0Chris0o> hrmm
[05:20] <mr---t-> !twinview
[05:21] <mr---t-> no bot
[05:47] <thedark> does anyone here use scim?
[06:04] <paulandsara> i need help lol
[06:07] <thedark> so no one could help me out with setting up alternate input (like for Japanese) in Kubuntu?
[06:08] <genii> thedark: Maybe ask in #scim  although it sweems somewhat empty. There is also always google
[06:08] <thedark> I have been googling and fiddling for a good while now... days :(
[06:09] <thedark> thank you for replying though
[06:12] <genii> thedark: Did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu   already? It's older but should still be applicable
[06:14] <thedark> actually no, I only looked at newer guides on the forum
[06:15] <thedark> I'm reading it now, thanks :)
[06:27] <DarkriftX> anyone here who has the ndis drivers for the broadcomm bcm4311 (43xx) wifi? i cant connect to http to download them or i wouldnt be asking in here and i think my drivers are causing connection issues
[06:36] <mike-solidus> hey, does the latest kernel in ubuntu support the intel ICH10 sata controller card?
[06:41] <_2> anyone know off hand the minimum CPU and SFB speed needed to play dvd smoothly ?
[06:43] <genii> _2: Something like p2 233
[06:43] <genii> Which ain't much
[06:44] <_2> agreed.    so why can't a coppermine 1ghz do it ?
[06:45] <_2> and think of who you are talking to before you say "too many other things going on"
[06:45] <genii> swap use perhaps
[06:45] <_2> no swap
[06:46] <_2> i supose that 512m ram is plenty
[06:46] <genii> Tried from mounted iso instead of physical dvd?
[06:47] <_2> i've tried just playing the .vob's off the hard drive
[06:48] <_2> still runns for a few seconds and skips.    it's like something is overloading and having to catch up
[06:49] <genii> I had a similar issue when streaming from ext filesystems but not xfs
[06:49] <genii> never did track it down exactly
[06:49] <_2> this 1ghz is the 'slowest' box i've tried it on,  is why i was asking.
[06:50] <_2> you know i'm not sure but i think it may work better from the dvd drive than the hard drive      which flys in the face of reason.
[06:52] <_2> err actually maybe it doesn't, they are both ide but seperate channels. so it could be bottlenecking at the ide buffer maybe  ?
[06:54] <_2> genii do you think it's the ide bus overloading ?   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/2042
[06:55] <genii> geez 33Mhz
[06:56] <_2> that's output of lshw
[06:56] <genii> Is it actually 66? You could set ide=66           or so (exact command I forget now, been long)
[06:57] <_2> i think it's actually 100mhz
[06:57] <_2> but may be in "compatability mode" in bios because of an old drive ???
[06:58] <_2> and yes iirc linux "assumes 33mhz" on everything that doesn't specify
[06:59] <genii> idebus=100       I think
[07:00] <genii> maybe 66 for safety first
[07:00] <_2> heh k i'll give that a shot when i reboot.
[07:00] <_2> this is 100 mhz    no?    0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 02)
[07:01] <genii> The drive is
[07:01] <genii> But bus speeds are normally like 33 66 133
[07:01] <genii> no wait
[07:01]  * genii re examines
[07:01] <_2> that's not the drive that's the ide bus  ^   lspci out
[07:01] <genii> Yeah it's 100
[07:02] <genii> The 828xxxxx  clued me in (tired)
[07:03] <_2> tired? it's only 08:00
[07:03] <genii> 2am here
[07:03] <_2> oh yeah    canada   right
[07:03] <genii> !time Toronto
[07:04] <genii> bah forgot even that syntax
[07:04] <_2> !schedual toronto
[07:04] <_2> pfft
[07:05] <genii> Weird.     time Toronto         works with private ubottu but not here
[07:05] <genii> Anyhow, 2:05am
[07:05] <o0Chris0o> set up differently , this one is for ubuntu related only
[07:05] <o0Chris0o> lol :D
[07:06] <o0Chris0o> same here
[07:06] <o0Chris0o> !foo
[07:06] <jussi01> @schedule toronto
[07:06] <genii> !bar
[07:06] <genii> jussi01: Thanks
[07:07] <_2> ah at and not not
[07:07]  * _2 forgets
[07:07] <jussi01> genii: there is a difference between commands '@' and factoids '!'
[07:07] <o0Chris0o> oh yah forgot about that too
[07:07] <genii> @time Toronto
[07:07] <genii> There we go
[07:08] <genii> Sign I should get some sleep :)
[07:08] <genii> Goodnight all, back in 7 hours
[07:08] <o0Chris0o> ahh ubuntu release in 1 day?
[07:08] <_2> shalom genii
[07:08] <o0Chris0o> 4.2?
[07:09] <_2> year.month
[07:09] <_2> time based versioning
[07:10] <_2> 4.10 was the first ubuntu release
[07:10] <jussi01> o0Chris0o: next meeting is the Ubuntu Release team, and its in 1 day...
[07:10] <o0Chris0o> oh
[07:10] <o0Chris0o> makes sense now
[07:10] <jussi01> anyway, shall we meander back to support questions then?
[07:11] <_2> jussi01 there wasn't any
[07:11] <jussi01> _2, ok then... anyway, shall we meander back to support questions or general silence then?
[07:12] <jussi01> :)
[07:12] <_2> i mean i did ask some info about minimum requirements for dvd play   but that's all i have seen sense arival.
[07:12] <_2> and what good is silence ?  ;/
[07:13] <jussi01> _2: Best this place is silent except for support questions. you are more than welcome to join us in #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter.
[07:14] <_2> dollar aganist the hole in a doughnut #kubuntu-offtopic is dead too.
[07:26] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[07:26] <FuriousGeorge> i have a ps2->usb adapter that works in other distros, but not 8.04.1
[07:26] <FuriousGeorge> ive verified that the usbhid module is loaded, and that appears to be the module the other distros use
[07:26] <FuriousGeorge> im somewhat stuck here
[07:27] <FuriousGeorge> oh, only the mouse half works.  its one of those pogtail ends, with a din for mouse and for keyboard
[07:29] <Timberwolf5578> Is Kubuntu as fast as Ubuntu?
[07:34] <o0Chris0o> yes, kubuntu is more   graphical then gnome basicly
[07:47] <fedor> privet
[08:23] <[hubert|chang]> Hi, What language is this "Evet arkadaşlar Islem COK Basit" ?
[08:27] <jussi01> [hubert|chang]: bit offtopic for here, next time use #kubuntu-offtopic - but that looks a bit like turkish to me
[08:28] <[hubert|chang]> jussi01, Thanks :) Wont do that again.
[08:29] <jussi01> :)
[09:34] <grego> which command shows avaiable processor extensions?
[09:34] <gm04030276> cat /proc/cpuinfo maybe?
[09:35] <grego> thank you :)
[09:35] <gm04030276> np
[09:35] <gm04030276> there's alot of fun information in there :)
[09:53] <araizen> firefox just got upgraded, but now i can't get to google docs
[09:53] <araizen> how do i unupgrade firefox?
[09:59] <florin_> how I change the desktop envirorment ?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:05] <neSSun0o> hi guys i had a rt73 wifi driver (which is kubuntu's default one) that wasnt working well, pinging my router i had 50% packet loss and the connection was super slow, thus i removed it and installed the "compat-wireless" driver as the kubuntu wiki suggests, pinging my router at that point gave me 0% packet loss and everything was going good, till yesterday, even with this new driver now ivegot again 50% packet loss... what happened? can
[10:05] <neSSun0o> somebody help? thank you
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: is the new software loaded or has it snapped back to the old?
[10:07] <neSSun0o> how do i know that ActionParnsip?
[10:07] <neSSun0o> how can i check it?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: do what you did to get the new system instated
[10:09] <neSSun0o> oh no please... it was a long process
[10:10] <neSSun0o> isnt there a simple command to check what driver version im using now?
[10:10] <neSSun0o> so at least i no if i have to restart everything again...
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> lshw should help
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> lshw -C network
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: any good?
[10:18] <neSSun0o> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/50416/
[10:18] <neSSun0o> i don't find it do you?
[10:18] <bentob0x> I keep on having problems with Amarok and xine/audio drivers (busy, etc), how can I spot in the console the 'busy' xine drivers?
[10:18] <bentob0x> or audio drivers used by another application?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: dont do that. dont paste stuff twice, its pointless
[10:19] <bentob0x> let's say FF does take some priority over Amarok, I want to know what I need to kill to get Amarok working again
[10:19] <neSSun0o> ActionParsnip: giving "lsmod" this appears http://paste.ubuntu.com/50417/ but i still don't know
[10:20] <neSSun0o> what u mean twice?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: in both rooms
[10:20] <neSSun0o> i didnt paste it twice... only once, the second link it's the output of a different command
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: what wireless device do you have?
[10:20] <neSSun0o> in both rooms i did it before because noone was answering here
[10:20] <neSSun0o> but now im only here because ur helping
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: well i was websearching, give me chance
[10:21] <neSSun0o> alright
[10:21] <neSSun0o> sorry man
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> np dude
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> ok, what wireless device do you have?
[10:21] <neSSun0o> mmm i dunno :D
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: lspic
[10:21] <neSSun0o> im quite of a newbie
[10:21] <neSSun0o> it says command not found...?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x: you could renice amarok to have more cpu time
[10:22] <jussi01> lspci
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ell ess pee see eye
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> lspci
[10:22] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: fail! :P
[10:22]  * ActionParsnip hugs jussi01
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> tab completion is riining my keyboard skills
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> see ^
[10:23] <bentob0x> would that change the fact that the xine thing is busy?
[10:23] <neSSun0o> im trying to pastebin it but because of packet loss its taking a bit
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: i only need the 1 line for your wireless
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: i dont need the rest do i
[10:24] <neSSun0o> http://paste.ubuntu.com/50419/
[10:24] <neSSun0o> sorry i didnt know
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> think about it
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> ok, is this a usb wireless?
[10:25] <neSSun0o> yes
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> ok, lsusb
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> give me the pastebin
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> of that
[10:27] <neSSun0o> alright
[10:28] <neSSun0o> its taking too long and all the lines are "empty" apart from these two
[10:28] <neSSun0o> Bus 006 Device 003: ID 0b05:1723 ASUSTek Computer, Inc.
[10:28] <neSSun0o> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c03d Logitech, Inc.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> try dmesg | grep ASUSTek
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> it may help
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> it appears to be a rt2500 chip
[10:32] <neSSun0o> nothing happens
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> bah
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22/+bug/144448
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> try dmesg |grep rt
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> well
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> dmesg |grep rt | less
[10:37] <neSSun0o> sorry i got disconnected
[10:37] <neSSun0o> ActionParsnip: there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/50422/
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> hmm not helpful
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> jussi01: can you pitch in anything useful at all please?
[10:39] <MikeyLDS> hey guys
[10:39] <neSSun0o> alright im thinking how can i know what wifi driver is installed on my machine? i can try to install another one and see how it goes cuz as u were saying <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: is the new software loaded or has it snapped back to the old? this could be
[10:39] <MikeyLDS> just wondering if somebody could help me choose a linux distro for my dedicated server
[10:40] <MikeyLDS> i have the choice between CentOS 4/5 and Red Hat Fedora Core 7 ... any ideas?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> MikeyLDS: go with what you are comfortable configuring
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: well you need to see if its using the one you know works or the old one
[10:41] <neSSun0o> yes
[10:41] <MikeyLDS> well, I don't know any of them ActionParsnip :P
[10:41] <neSSun0o> how?
[10:42] <MikeyLDS> i use kubuntu on my lappy ... but have never hosted a website before
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> MikeyLDS: then you'll have to try a few to see which you prefer
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> MikeyLDS: if you like ubuntu, use ubuntu
[10:42] <MikeyLDS> thats the problem ... the hosting company is only giving me the option of the 3 that I mentioned
[10:43] <MikeyLDS> i was just hoping somebody might be able to point me in the right direction ... whatever I choose I am going to have to stick with ya see
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> MikeyLDS: then read reviews of each, its a fairly strange thing to ask a user imho
[10:43] <MikeyLDS> really
[10:43] <MikeyLDS> people used to be so helpful in here
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: ok is your network interface called wlan0
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> MikeyLDS: as a user you shouldnt need to worry what OS the hosting has
[10:44] <MikeyLDS> most experienced users that I have met in here have had experience with different flavours
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> MikeyLDS: as long as the site stays up etc
[10:44] <MikeyLDS> and that is why I am asking for opinions! lol
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> MikeyLDS: redhat is a solid server technology and id personally shoot for that
[10:44] <neSSun0o> wlan0 yes so?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> MikeyLDS: i dont see why as a customer you get that choice
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: sweet
[10:45] <MikeyLDS> thanks ... thats all I was looking for :P
[10:45] <neSSun0o> ?huh?
[10:45] <MikeyLDS> yeah, well I was a lil confused too
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: try sudo dmesg | grep -i ethernet; sudo dmesg | grep -i wlan0
[10:46] <neSSun0o> 2  different commands? or on the same line?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: yes theyll run one after another
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> thats what the ; is for
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> you can write thousands of command on the same line if you want
[10:47] <MikeyLDS> lol
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> MikeyLDS: id ask them why they ask you what OS you want
[10:48] <neSSun0o> i am sorry ActionParnsip i don't understand this sarcasm as i told you i am a newbie and dunno ANYTHING about linux and commands, excuse me for my ignorance
[10:48] <neSSun0o> i'll give the commands right away
[10:48] <neSSun0o> thank you for helping
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> i try
[10:50] <neSSun0o> with the first command nothing happens
[10:50] <neSSun0o> with the second this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/50428/
[10:51] <dacbes> hola a todos
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:51] <dacbes> tengo un problema con la tarjeta de sonido en kubuntu hardy
[10:52] <dacbes> me podeis ayudar?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: lspci -v -nn -m
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: espaniol?
[10:53] <dacbes> Device: 00:00.0
[10:53] <dacbes> Class:  Host bridge [0600]
[10:53] <dacbes> Vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] [1039]
[10:53] <dacbes> Device: 661FX/M661FX/M661MX Host [0661]
[10:53] <dacbes> si, español
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> !es | dacbes
[10:54] <dacbes> please, can you help me
[10:54] <neSSun0o> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/50429/
[10:54] <dacbes> i speak a little english
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: wassup?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: does lsusb work with the same args?
[10:55] <neSSun0o> ??? what u mean?
[10:55] <dacbes> srry, i don't understand what are you speak
[10:55] <dacbes> i'm novece
[10:55] <dacbes> novice
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o:  lsusb -v -nn -m
[10:56] <neSSun0o> it saysy invalid options
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: the things that you passa command are arguments
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> ok bah
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: how can we help
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: doesnt kde have a hardware viewer or somesuch
[10:57] <dacbes> sorry, can you explain me more?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: how can we help you, what is wrong?
[11:01] <dacbes> i can earth any sound on my laptop
[11:01] <dacbes> in windows the sound is fine
[11:03] <jesus_> q pacha??
[11:03] <caldera> hello
[11:03] <fritz09> hello!
[11:03] <caldera> can anyone help me with kubuntu issues?
[11:03] <fritz09> :9
[11:04] <caldera> new linux user :P
[11:04] <caldera> my APT is broken
[11:05] <fritz09> i am not so new but far away to be crack, apt broken, seems not nice!
[11:05] <caldera> says: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[11:06] <fritz09> and non of the 2 resolve the problem?
[11:06] <caldera> if i knew how to use them lol
[11:07] <fritz09> lol ? what is this
[11:07] <fritz09> ?
[11:08] <caldera> nothing, slang
[11:08] <caldera> so can anyone help me
[11:08] <fritz09> means?
[11:08] <caldera> apt-get gives me all those commands,
[11:09] <fritz09> did you tried to run those two commands from above?
[11:10] <caldera> yes, but there are subcommands
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt | caldera
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: you need to configure your sound card
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: maybe you need drivers
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> caldera: after that run sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> caldera: you could also try a reboot
[11:16] <dacbes> how configure soundcard?
[11:17] <caldera> ok i will try reboot now
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: what soundcard do you have?
[11:19] <dacbes> si7012
[11:19] <dacbes> is the only i know
[11:19] <afiestas> dacbes this card work perfectly in my computer, maybe you can try disabling pulseaudio
[11:20] <afiestas> (search in google howto)
[11:20] <afiestas> [12:19] <afiestas> dacbes this card work perfectly in my computer, maybe you can try disabling pulseaudio
[11:20] <afiestas> [12:19] <afiestas> (search in google howto)
[11:20] <afiestas> or try with another distro (an old version of kubuntu for example) with a live cd
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: is it muted in kmix?
[11:20] <dacbes> no
[11:21] <dacbes> all is full
[11:21] <dacbes> in kmix
[11:21] <dacbes> and in alsamixer
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ok so if you attempt to play music does it play or just refuse to play?
[11:22] <afiestas> dacbes disable pulseaudio, cya!
[11:22] <dacbes> i can't earth anything
[11:22] <dacbes> nothing
[11:22] <dacbes> but any error
[11:22] <dacbes> how disable pulseaudio?
[11:23] <dacbes> selecting alsa in preferences/sound?
[11:25] <dacbes> sorry i'm very novice with linux
[11:25] <caldera> me again, and no hope
[11:26] <caldera> what i was doing is adding a new package to the adept manager
[11:26] <caldera> and i misspeled a APT reference
[11:26] <caldera> now it wont open anymore :(
[11:27] <caldera> can i somehow reset to defaults or something
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: yes in sound prefs choose alsa
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> caldera: can you give a pastebin of you konsole when you try to apt-get update
[11:28] <caldera> whats a pastebin?
[11:28] <caldera> E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> caldera: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> caldera: and check that line out
[11:34] <caldera> you mispelled ext but i figured itz out, thank you very much
[11:34] <caldera> its fixed now
[11:35] <dacbes> changed to alsa and nothing
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> caldera: watch how you edit conf files
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> caldera: there is no fuzzy logic, its either right or wrong
[11:36] <caldera> i agree with that logic, but there should also be "discard wrong"
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> caldera: thats a bit dangerous imho
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: you need to search round to see what you can do about your card, some people are saying it works straight away, are you running hardy or intrepid?
[11:37] <dacbes> hardy
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: good
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> id have a websearch round, see what you can find
[11:39] <caldera> not in my perspective, if you need to enter a command in this order like "apt-get options command" then accept only this format discard any mispelled alike format
[11:40] <caldera> but what do i know im a newbie linux user
[11:40] <caldera> anyway, thanks for help, im now gonna browse through
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> caldera: you could suggest it to apt-get
[11:41] <afiestas> dacbes try with another distro via livecd for example mandriva kde and if in this distro you have sound, open a bug in launchpad saying it
[11:41] <dacbes> nothing else?
[11:42] <afiestas> currently I'm not using kubuntu so I can't help you
[11:43] <afiestas> but sometimes, the best way to report a bug is checking if another distro have the same problem
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: im web searching, you search too
[11:43] <afiestas> because the developers can check what for XXXX distro have
[11:43] <afiestas> to get it working, and just copy it
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/204794
[11:52] <sales_guy> Ok, made the mistake of trying to use the Nvidia Settings tool to edit my xorg.conf file. Now every time I boot all I get is the command line. I restored my backup .conf file both from after the Nvidia driver install and from before the Nvidia driver install. Still only command line. How do I get GUI back please?
[11:53] <dacbes> this bug not is for my laptop. i tried this but nothing happends
[11:53] <favro> sales_guy: tried typing   startx?
[11:53] <dacbes> sorry for my english
[11:54] <dacbes> i'm from spain
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> dacbes: all im doing is webseaching, i gotta split, you could try
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !es | dacbes
[11:54] <dacbes> sorry idon't understand you
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> ive got to go
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> try the spanish room
[11:55] <sales_guy> favro: EE Failed to load "nvidia"  & EE No drivers available
[11:56] <dacbes> in spanish room no one answer me
[11:57] <favro> sales_guy: I would try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:59] <sales_guy> favro: muchas gracias... thanks that worked
[11:59] <favro> :)
[11:59] <sales_guy> Now if I could just get SKIM to work...
[12:00] <favro> I don't kow anything about that...
[12:00] <sales_guy> though I did lose my desktop and all of my shortcuts
[12:03] <sales_guy> Ouch that's a killer command. All my bookmarks, mail settings, everything gone. Might want give a caveat before sharing that one out
[12:04] <favro> sales_guy: can you logout and in again?
[12:05] <favro> ctrl+alt+bkspace
[12:06] <raja> I am too having problems with logging in after logging out(ctrl+alt+backspace works though)
[12:08] <raja> I am using kde4.1.1 over kubuntu hardy
[12:08] <raja> can anyone help me out?
[12:08] <favro> try ctrl+alt+F2 then   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:08] <sales_guy> I get it. I'm in the UI as root, eh?
[12:09] <favro> sales_guy: it seems so since your settings in your home folder aren't being used
[12:10] <favro> what is the prompt in konsole?
[12:12] <sales_guy> Ok. Now I'm back to phase 1. How to get my laptop to display the same thing on two screens.
[12:12] <favro> !twinview
[12:12] <favro> hehe
[12:13] <sales_guy> twinview seems to stretch the desktop, not duplicate the desktop
[12:13] <favro> you could try xinerama
[12:13] <favro> !xinerama
[12:13] <ghostcube> but with xinerama no compiz
[12:13] <ghostcube> :)
[12:13] <ghostcube> u can clone twinview in nvidia-settings
[12:16] <raja> I am having problems with shifting between kwin and compix
[12:16] <neSSun0o> can anybody suggest a good alternative to network manager?
[12:17] <ghostcube> manual configuration ?
[12:17] <raja> I should have to use compiz because desktop effects in kde 4.1.1 is not working for me
[12:18] <favro> raja: you need to ask about kde4 stuff in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:18] <raja> ?
[12:18] <ghostcube> compiz help in compiz-fusion channel
[12:18] <ghostcube> :)
[12:18] <raja> but nobody is there to respond
[12:18] <ghostcube> kde4 is too buggy :|
[12:18] <raja> what do i do?
[12:19] <ghostcube> raja what is the problem ?
[12:19] <ghostcube> have u tried fusion-icon to start compiz ?
[12:19] <sales_guy> ghostcube: tell me about clone please
[12:20] <ghostcube> sales_guy: just type into google clone screen+twinview+kubuntu
[12:20] <raja> Thanks. My problem is, I can get desktop effects working in kde4.1.1 with compiz-but not with kde4's default window manager-kwin
[12:20] <ghostcube> will show u all i think its not so hard but u can open nvidia-sttings and set all u want in the xserver tab
[12:20] <ghostcube> raja: install the needed compiz packages and fusion-ivcon
[12:21] <ghostcube> *icon
[12:21] <raja> Also I cant have the compiz as the default composite manager after I am restarting x
[12:21] <raja> I have installed all the necessary things from the repositories
[12:22] <raja> If I try compiz --replace, then the window frame disappears and cant continue
[12:23] <raja> I think kde4 can't pick the user set window manager(composite manager) at startup
[12:24] <raja> I have the fusion icon installed
[12:25] <sales_guy> ghostcube: not helping
[12:25] <sales_guy> clone is a setting? Where does it go in xorg.conf
[12:26] <raja> Is here anybody could figure out what's the actual problem?
[12:26] <sales_guy> Is there a keyboard shortcut to open the Kubuntu menu?
[12:27] <sales_guy> (applications menu)
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:29] <raja> hello?
[12:34] <sales_guy> Is there a keyboard shortcut to open the Kubuntu menu?
[12:34] <ghostcube> sales_guy: save the edited xorg.conf and look into iot
[12:34] <ghostcube> save to desktop
[12:35] <ghostcube> raja: join compiz-fusion for compiz probs
[12:35] <sales_guy> yeah, unfortunately in Twinview I can't see the Kubuntu menu to open any of my applications or settings. Is there a short cut key to open it (like the lovely Windows key on my laptop)
[12:36] <raja> how can I?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> sales_guy: you can bind the power key to it if you want
[12:38] <sales_guy> so the answer is no
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> sales_guy: no its not no, you need to bind the scancode or event to make the menu popup
[12:39] <king> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:39] <Rioting_pacifist> http://pastebin.com/d7ad2da26 < i get that when trying to run spore, not sure if its wine causing the problem or X though
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> king: do you have synaptic open, is apt-get running?
[12:40] <king> how can i unlock apt *
[12:40] <sales_guy> Yes, I have to do it, which means that NO there is nothing bound to it by default now, when I can't acces it
[12:40] <king> nope
[12:40] <king> nothing is opne
[12:40] <king> when i use ps
[12:40] <king> only bash and ps
[12:40] <Rioting_pacifist> !apt-fix
[12:40] <Rioting_pacifist> !apt-fix | king
[12:40] <king> thx
[12:41] <Rioting_pacifist> king ps is limited to bash unless you use ps -A
[12:42] <king> ok thx again
[12:45] <lain_wired> Hullo!
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> hi lain_wired
[12:45] <lain_wired> I'm looking for a application I've seen used several times. It seems to be a CPU and harddrive monitor.
[12:45] <lain_wired> I'm not sure what it's called, but it seems able to handle transparency.
[12:46] <favro> conky?
[12:46] <lain_wired> Anyone know of something like that? I could probably find a picture.
[12:46] <favro> !info conky
[12:46] <lain_wired> hm. No.
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> conky or superkaramba
[12:46] <lain_wired> It doesn't seem right.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> !karamba
[12:47] <lain_wired> MaWhat does superkaramba have to do with it then? o_O
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> lain_wired: it can show cpu and ram usage
[12:49] <lain_wired> Oh, okay. =]
[12:50] <Rioting_pacifist> your in kubuntu so id guess its a karama plugin, it will have a different name for the specific plugin though
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> well this is kubuntu support
[12:54] <lain_wired> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=52079&file1=52079-1.jpg&file2=52079-2.jpg&file3=&name=FutureTech+BlackRed+Cyberpunk - i'll check karamba for it, and if you know what it is by sight, well here. =]
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> that theme is ghastly
[12:55] <dacbes> hola
[12:56] <lain_wired> As in you hate it?
[12:57] <lain_wired> I quite like it, but I think I'd get sick of it quickly.
[12:57] <lain_wired> I found the app. It's called LappyMonitor
[12:57] <lain_wired> It's lovely.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> lain_wired: if it works for you then sweet
[12:59] <lain_wired> Hahah, I haven't installed the theme yet. Not sure if I even will.
[13:08] <Rioting_pacifist> !gnome
[13:09] <micettonero> hi, i use ubuntu and i've installed kde4 from kubuntu repositories. how can i totally remove gnome?
[13:10] <favro> !purekde
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !purekde | micettonero
[13:11] <Rioting_pacifist> !radeon
[13:12] <micettonero> ok thanks
[13:12] <micettonero> another question :D
[13:12] <micettonero> why doesn't sudo work on my kde4?
[13:12] <micettonero> sudo kwrite gives me command not found
[13:12] <micettonero> kdesudo kwrite too
[13:13] <micettonero> or kdesudo kate etc.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> micettonero: you dont use sudo for gui apps
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> you'll break the ownership
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> use kdesu kate
[13:13] <micettonero> neither kdesudo works
[13:13] <micettonero> it gives me command not found
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> maybe you havent installed kate or kwrite
[13:13] <dark_> h
[13:13] <micettonero> i'm not so stupid :D
[13:13] <dark_> hii
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> hi dark_
[13:13] <neSSun0o> ActionParnsip: if that could interest you i solved the prob by removing networkmanager and installing wicd, then removing the existing driver and installing http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt73-cvs-daily.tar.gz now it works good without any packet loss... i hope it will last a bit more than the last time :D
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> nice one bro
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> once ou know what chip you have you're running
[13:14] <micettonero> anyway, kdesudo gedit (for example) works well
[13:14] <neSSun0o> apparently was the mix of networkmanager (a bad prog) and bad driver
[13:14] <neSSun0o> now it all works
[13:15] <neSSun0o> c ya
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> peace
[13:15] <mikz> Hi, Ive been having problems with my search engine script. When the page was loaded everything that was below the php code was deleted, until a search was made and results were placed on the page. Well, I've discovered that the problem was becasue of an exit command, which, as far as I can tell, ends the script and so the rest of the page isn't loaded, even though the php tag has been closed, and it affects the html.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> milz: id head into #php
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> milz: its not a kubuntu issue, its a coding in php issue
[13:17] <mikz> om thanks for the links, every little helps
[13:36] <ldp> Hello
[13:39] <Glady> 278 nicks
[13:40] <ldp> heh
[13:40] <ghostcube> but only 20 of them reponding
[13:40] <ghostcube> :D
[13:41] <ldp> this place isn't very active
[13:41] <Maxa> where does that 20 come from... idle time, away status, what :)?
[13:41] <Glady> sleeping
[13:42] <Glady> they sleep with their laptop next to the pillow
[13:42] <ghostcube> hmm no just looked at the log
[13:42] <ghostcube> more than 20 different names not helping in here
[13:42] <ghostcube> :|
[13:42] <ghostcube> it fluctuates maybe but ...
[13:42] <ldp> Glady: I do that a lot
[13:43] <ghostcube> mostly it depends on the region the guys from
[13:43] <ghostcube> iam german so its later here
[13:43] <ghostcube> :)
[13:44] <Glady> so 20 on 275 are here in hour time
[13:44] <Glady> hmm
[13:44] <ldp> I'm from kuwait
[13:44] <Glady> sounds very few
[13:50] <micettonero> does anyone have this bug?
[13:50] <micettonero> (sudo and kdesudo don't work with kde apps)
[13:51] <ldp> no
[13:51] <micettonero> it's so strange!
[13:51] <ldp> who here thinks tht synaptic is a bloated poj?
[13:53] <micettonero> http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91565428gl9.jpg
[13:57] <lain_wired> Hiya all. Where exactly does kubuntu store its default kcsrc files? (themes, etc)
[13:57] <lordrayden> Hi, I updated to FFox 3.0.2 in my Kubuntu 8.0.4 and when I try to login to my hotmail account it says that I should use Firefox ?! how do I make this go away, koz I USE Firefox...
[13:57] <lain_wired> Wait.
[13:57] <lain_wired> What's telling you this?
[13:57] <lain_wired> hotmail?
[13:58] <ldp> are you messing with us
[13:58] <lordrayden> yes
[13:58] <ldp> ?
[13:58] <ldp> HOTMAIL? ASKS YOU TO USE FIREFOX>
[13:58] <lordrayden> yes
[13:58] <ldp> :|
[13:59] <lordrayden> and I AM using FF, I had no trouble with FF 3.0.2
[13:59] <lain_wired> That sounds really suss.
[13:59] <ldp> lordrayden: screenshot please
[13:59] <lain_wired> Hotmail is in bed with Microsoft. :\
[13:59] <lain_wired> *hyperventilates*
[13:59] <ldp> +1
[13:59] <lain_wired> XD
[14:00] <lain_wired> ldp, any idea where system themes are stored?
[14:00] <lain_wired> Oh goddamn it, hayfever. *sneeze*
[14:00] <ldp> .theme, I think
[14:00] <ldp> wait
[14:00] <ldp> system themes?
[14:01] <elzam> ребята помогите...
[14:01] <lain_wired> The kcsrc files.
[14:01] <elzam> как поменять кодировку в копете
[14:01] <lain_wired> Right, that doesn't actually mean much to anyone else, but thanks.
[14:01] <elzam> а то сообщения приходят иероглифами!!
[14:01] <little>  /usr/share/apps/
[14:01] <lordrayden> ldp, I sent U a screenshot
[14:01] <lain_wired> <3
[14:02] <lordrayden> got it?
[14:02] <little> whoops
[14:02] <little>  /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/
[14:02] <lain_wired> lordrayden: usually you upload images somewhere, rather than sending them to specific people.
[14:02] <lain_wired> It's kinda polite, and more people can help that way./
[14:02] <lordrayden> k, wait 1 min then
[14:02] <lain_wired> thanks little
[14:02] <lain_wired> sure.
[14:03] <little> Sure.
[14:04] <lain_wired> little, this explains why so many themes on kde-look seem to not work very well.
[14:04] <lain_wired> They don't seem to be written correctly.
[14:04] <lain_wired> Hrm.
[14:05] <little> Hey, is the Documentation tab broken for anyone else on this page? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu
[14:05] <lain_wired> Hahah, yes. Unless it's supposed to give me index.php to download.
[14:06] <little> Yep, same here. (:
[14:06] <lain_wired> Those silly linux users.
[14:06] <Glady> hey u
[14:06] <Glady> stop insulting people
[14:07] <Glady> I'll kick u out on the butt
[14:07] <lain_wired> o_O
[14:07] <little> Checking for signs of life in the development channel. (:
[14:07] <lain_wired> I really hope that was a joke.
[14:07] <ldp> umm
[14:07] <Glady> it was not a joke
[14:07] <ldp> +1
[14:07] <lain_wired> Uh... huh.
[14:07] <ldp> umm
[14:07] <ldp> weird
[14:08] <lain_wired> What's weird?
[14:08] <ldp> nevermind
[14:08] <lain_wired> Mkay.
[14:08] <jussi01> little: lain_wired you can report a bug...
[14:08] <lain_wired> Haha, "Hey guys, there's a bug! ON YOUR WEBSITE!"
[14:09] <ldp> haha
[14:09] <little> Yeah, I'm poking around on the site and haven't found the spot yet.
[14:09] <Glady> hey the clown
[14:09] <ldp> lordrayden: DCC fails
[14:09] <ldp> just upload it on ImageShack or something
[14:09] <little> Bug Triage? To report that the tab isn't working?
[14:09] <jussi01> !bug | little:
[14:09] <lain_wired> I'd do it, but I can't see, as my eyes are watering from hayfever. *sigh*
[14:10] <jussi01> little: website bugs go to launchpad also.
[14:10] <lordrayden> ldp, I post it now on kubuntu forums and I'll be back with a link
[14:10] <ldp> :D
[14:10] <little> <--- <passes lain a bottle of NyQuil>
[14:10] <lain_wired> I'm not sure what NyQuil is, but thanks!
[14:10] <little> It will knock that Hayfever for a loop. (:
[14:11] <lain_wired> Well that's good. =]
[14:11] <ldp> is there a kubuntu chat channel?
[14:11] <jussi01> !ot
[14:11] <ldp> found it
[14:11] <jussi01> :)
[14:12] <Glady> !clown
[14:12] <lain_wired> ldp: Where did lordrayden go?
[14:12] <Glady> !provocator
[14:12] <lain_wired> Clown? I really don't get it.
[14:12] <jussi01> !botabuse > Glady
[14:12] <Glady> !lain_wired
[14:12] <lordrayden> ldp http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097762.0 is the link
[14:13] <ldp> lain_wired: haha
[14:13] <Glady> !abuse
[14:13] <ldp> jussi01: That was scary
[14:13] <ldp> I tend to get freaked when people OP themselves
[14:13] <lordrayden> ldp - sorry it took me some time
[14:14] <jussi01> Just a reminder ladies and gents, this is a support channel, please take general chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:14] <ldp> no problem, :)
[14:14] <Glady> !kubuntu freaking show
[14:14] <lain_wired> Well, lordrayden, there's a button right there that says continue.
[14:14] <lain_wired> Perhaps... that may be of use?
[14:15] <Glady> okay
[14:15] <Glady> bye friends
[14:16] <lordrayden> ldp I wonder Y that happens, with the new improved version of firefox and if anyone else had this problem, and if there is a way to get rid of this nonsense :)
[14:16] <ldp> Xorg fail
[14:16] <Glady> the new version is tired to never get answers
[14:16] <aar> Hi, is there any way of making KMail display email attachments on top of the message rather than at the bottom?
[14:17] <Freku> turn screen around :)
[14:17] <lain_wired> lordrayden: most likely, it doesn't recognize the browser and thinks it's very old or very uncommon.
[14:17] <lordrayden> my browser isn't recommending itself as FF anymore :)
[14:17] <aar> Freku, good idea
[14:17] <lain_wired> It's probably something that will go away very soon.
[14:18] <lordrayden> k, tnx, I'll wait then :D
[14:18] <lain_wired> =] good idea.
[14:18] <lordrayden> when is FF 5 hitting the market :)) tnx guys, I appreciate UR time
[14:19] <lain_wired> No idea, not for a while I should think.
[14:19] <lain_wired> No problem.
[14:19] <lain_wired> Come back any time. =]
[14:19] <Glady> this place is Scientology church?
[14:19] <lordrayden> CU later, I get back to work now
[14:20] <jussi01> Glady: please keep on topic
[14:20] <Glady> I want to give money
[14:20] <ldp> Glady: you're just ticking him/her off now
[14:20] <Glady> ?
[14:20] <jussi01> !donate | Glady
[14:20] <little> I filed the bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/274394
[14:21] <lain_wired> He meant he wanted to give money to COS.
[14:21] <jussi01> little: great! :)
[14:21] <lain_wired> I wish trolling was illegal and resulted in violent death.
[14:21] <little> That was hard work! (:
[14:21] <lain_wired> >.>
[14:21] <ldp> hehe
[14:22] <little> I've never filed a bug report before, and being presented with a list of applications to choose from kind of threw me. (:
[14:22] <lain_wired> Ah. I can't remember the last time I filed a bug report.
[14:22] <lain_wired> Back in the days when I was a young and naive advocate!
[14:23] <lain_wired> Ubuntu stickers on the walls, handing out LiveCDs in homegroup.
[14:23] <little> Which version of Kubuntu are you using?
[14:23] <jussi01> lain_wired: please, lets keep to support questions and answers :) you are very welcome to join #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:23] <ldp> I have to make an announcement
[14:23] <ldp> umm
[14:23] <ldp> wrong tab
[14:23] <lain_wired> Kay, sorry.
[14:24] <agung> hello there
[14:24] <lain_wired> Hullo!
[14:24] <little> jussie01, are you a moderator?
[14:25] <agung> how can i know the version of kubuntu that i using??
[14:25] <little> Or, more specifically, are you on the Kubuntu team?
[14:25] <jussi01> !version | agung
[14:25] <jussi01> little: Im one of the operators here, yes
[14:26] <little> I'm wondering how I find out what kind of contributing I can do to the Kubuntu wiki. The Documentation link on the development page is a blank slate and I'd love to do something with it, but I don't want to start something without knowing whether it would be welcome.
[14:27] <agung> sory i mean the version of KDE???
[14:27] <Glady> we appreciate at least 60 hours of volonteer work a week
[14:27] <Glady> thanks little
[14:27] <little> LOL
[14:27] <Glady> you are welcoe
[14:27] <Glady> welcome
[14:27] <jussi01> Glady: thats not helpful
[14:27] <Glady> yes yes
[14:27] <Glady> we have a big lack in our wiki
[14:28] <little> Version of KDE. Open Konqueror (or any other KDE application) and click the Help menu and the About entry and it will tell you the version of KDE at the top.
[14:28] <ibilicki> what desktop wireless network adapter do you have that works out of the box in Kubuntu?
[14:28] <Glady> the box is empty
[14:28] <Glady> sorry
[14:29] <little> Well, I've been trying to help out the Ubuntu wiki, since Kubuntu is sort of a subset or... something... of Ubuntu. But I'm a Kubuntu user, so I'd love to specialize. (:
[14:29] <Glady> excellent idea
[14:29] <Glady> little u are our freind
[14:29] <Glady> please donate
[14:29] <Glady> use paypal
[14:29] <jussi01> little: Id drop into #kubuntu-devel and chat to them, there is a documentation channel, but I cant remember it now
[14:30] <byteme_> Good morning all
[14:30] <little> Nobody seems to reply in the development channel right now.
[14:30] <byteme_> bummer
[14:30] <byteme_> the best time is in the PM
[14:31] <little> I know this is probably going to sound stupid, but I'm using Konversation to be on here, and I get red text sometimes. Is that a whisper? And how do I send that way?
[14:31] <jussi01> little: yeah, just hang around a bit, it can be a little slow when people are busy with $reallife
[14:31] <lain_wired> It's so PM it's nearly AM.
[14:31] <jussi01> little: no, its just when someone mentions your nick
[14:31] <little> That makes sense.
[14:31] <little> Ah, okay, thanks!
[14:32] <lain_wired> I love konversation. It's really brilliant.
[14:33] <ldp> +1 lain_wired
[14:33] <little> I'm kind of a newbie when it comes to IRC, but a lot of these Kubuntu and Ubuntu pages mention IRC as a way to contact the team, so I thought I'd try it. (:
[14:33] <lain_wired> Fair enough. =]
[14:33] <ldp> lain_wired: A friend of mine and I went on a krusde to konvert everyone to konvi once. We failed epically
[14:33] <lain_wired> Kool!
[14:39] <byteme_> jussi01: how do I install tar.bz2?
[14:40] <byteme_> trying to install 'second life'
[14:40] <ldp> brb people Badminton practice time
[14:41] <Freku> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[14:43] <lain_wired> I'm bored.
[14:43] <lain_wired> back later!
[14:43] <byteme_> thanks Freku
[14:59] <little> For the record, in the event that anyone else wants to contribute to the wiki documentation of Kubuntu, I just logged onto the wiki and tried to create a page, and this is what it says: Note that documentation on this wiki should be moved to the new documentation wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[14:59] <little> So I guess it's official that all documentation is now at ubuntu.com.
[15:26] <mil> hi guys Nothing seems to happen even if I enable extra effects in Desktop Effects (Compiz).  I'm using KDE 3.9
[15:28] <RurouniJones> !compiz
[15:29] <mil> thanks ubottu yeah tried that so many times nothing happens.  Says Compiz is installed. Tried uninstalling and installing no effect.
[15:31] <RurouniJones> The channel is the bit you want
[15:31] <RurouniJones> More support is available there.
[15:32] <surgy> hello
[16:03] <Linux_User> hi all, i have many kernal entries in grub, I want to have the latest kernal and delete the rest, how to do thta?
[16:06] <little> Linux_User: http://littlergirl.googlepages.com/GRUBTips.html
[16:07] <little> But for the record, it's a good idea to leave at least two, so if anything goes wrong, you have one to fall back on.
[16:08] <Linux_User> Thankyou very much Little
[16:09] <little> Yeah, good luck with it, and let me know if you have any trouble. My email is at the top if I'm not in here.
[16:10] <Linux_User> Little I could not find it. plz if u could write it here
[16:11] <gerem> hi all, everyone have an adress for a french chanel about ubunutu for a noob, plz thx a lot
[16:11] <jussi01> !fr
[16:11] <gerem> thx
[16:11] <jussi01> :)
[16:12] <little> Linux_User: littlergirl@gmail.com
[16:13] <little> Linux_User: It's at the top right of the page. Maybe I should do a Contact The Author section instead. (:
[16:13] <ldp> little: You're female? (sorry, just had to ask)
[16:13] <little> Yep, one hundred percent female. (:
[16:13] <Linux_User> Thank You very much little
[16:13] <little> Any time. (:
[16:21] <nosky> hi
[16:25] <jmesplet> ooooooooo
[16:25] <jgauvill> oo
[16:25] <jmesplet> mdr
[16:25] <jgauvill> cé la matrice
[16:25] <jmesplet> JCV connard de merde
[16:26] <LjL> !language
[16:26] <LjL> !english
[16:27] <neSSun0o> what's a good instant messaging client?
[16:27] <jussi01> neSSun0o: for which protocol?
[16:28] <LjL> !good
[16:29] <neSSun0o> jussi01: for MSN
[16:29] <neSSun0o> LjL: oh c'mon give me a break!
[16:29] <LjL> what's wrong with Kopete?
[16:29] <jussi01> neSSun0o: see what the bot said, but kopete, amsn and kmess are all candidates
[16:29] <LjL> i can give you a "break" i suppose
[16:30] <neSSun0o> kopete its fine
[16:30] <neSSun0o> amsn i dunno if its stable or not
[16:30] <neSSun0o> kmess i dont know it at all
[16:37] <richardbh> has a new version of KDE been released today?
[16:42] <ldp> MySQL, DAMN YOU!!!
[16:47] <little> I've got a MySQL cheat sheet, if interested... (:
[16:47] <ldp> little: It's not that. It's giving me problems
[16:47] <ldp> I can't change the dmin password
[16:48] <ldp> I forgot the previous one :blushes:
[16:48] <ldp> little: Give the cheat sheet anyways :D
[16:48] <little> http://littlergirl.googlepages.com/DatabaseManagementCommandLine.html
[16:49] <little> You could create another user with full privileges and then use that user to delete the original one. (:
[16:51] <mdr> I've set my shell environment via an edit (export PATH) of $HOME/.bashrc.  Dunno if this is the proper way but it works, I can run the apps from anywhere on the command line.   However, if use KDE's "run command" applet (alt-F2) the app won't run unless I give it the full path.  How do I remedy this situation?
[16:51] <ldp> I'm an idiot
[16:51] <ldp> A "COMPLETE" idiot
[16:51] <ldp> I completely forgot about the new user thing
[16:51] <ldp> and now, I'm reinstalling
[16:51] <ldp> idiocy to the limits
[16:53] <little> mdr: I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think you could export /usr/bin as well as $HOME and then both would work. Anyone?
[16:53] <little> ldp: You'll remember it from now on. (:
[16:59] <mdr> I should of said, I edited ~/.bashrc  using PATH= and export PATH.  This worked fine for the shell but doesn't work if I launch said apps using alt-F2.  Thing is, it used to work on Dapper but I forgot what I did to get it to work :(  Hate it when that happens.   Maybe I edited .xinitrc??
[16:59] <Assurbanipal> hey guys...can someone plz tell me what the ideal sizes of partitions for a kuybuntu instalation is?
[16:59] <little> mdr: Can you just add the path that you have to type into the run applet?
[17:00] <mdr> yes it works then, (just a hassle)
[17:00] <little> mdr: No, I mean can you add it to .bashrc where you added the other export path?
[17:00] <mdr> oh i see what you're saying
[17:01] <little> I've never done it, so I'm just tossing out ideas. (:
[17:01] <Nece228> does kubuntu 8.10 will have double vision releases
[17:01] <little> Assurbanipal: That's a topic that's hotly debated the world over.
[17:01] <Nece228> like kubuntu kde 3 and kubuntu
[17:03] <Assurbanipal> little, i m thinking of seperating system mount point and user(home) mount point.is this a good idea? and where will the data of installed programs be kept?
[17:03] <Assurbanipal> little, any recomendation for those partitions' sizes?
[17:03] <ldp> ye gods, I'm going to install openSUSE
[17:04] <little> Assurbanipal: Yes, you can do this, and the programs will be kept in the places you define. When creating the home partition, create it under a different name and copy all your stuff over before unmounting and mounting as Home.
[17:04] <mdr> On the desktop version, the default install just makes a swap partition and the one bit parttition for every thing else. No?   I think at least /home should be a seperate partition
[17:04] <little> Assurbanipal: The sizes are what's hotly debated. The best I could suggest would be to take a good look at how much space each directory currently uses and give it at least that with room to spare.
[17:04] <ldp> doesn't ubuntu automatically make seperate /home and / prtitions?
[17:05] <jussi01> no
[17:05] <ldp> I don't know, because I always partition manually
[17:05] <ldp> Arch does that
[17:05] <eduardo> hola
[17:05] <ldp> hola amiga
[17:05] <little> Nope. By default it makes the /boot, /swap and / partitions, with the / partition containing the main system and the Home directory.
[17:05] <ldp> amigo*
[17:05] <ldp> hha
[17:05] <eduardo> disculpen hay alguien que me pueda asesorar  alevntar un servidor ftp en ubuntu?
[17:05] <ldp> little: making a different /home partiton is good
[17:06] <jussi01> !es | eduardo
[17:06] <ldp> because, I can make two distros share the same partition
[17:06] <little> ldp: Yeah, I agree. It sure makes installing a new version easier. I've never done it, though.
[17:06] <ldp> why not?
[17:06] <ldp> I've founf it useful
[17:06] <mdr> also on installs --  wipe out the root and keep the home
[17:06] <ldp> because it's kind of my hobby to crash systems
[17:06] <jussi01> !ot
[17:07] <ldp> ok
[17:07] <little> I have my stuff so thoroughly backed up that it's not really a worry for me if I lost my Home. I can wipe this computer and reinstall and have everything back the way it is in just a few hours. (:
[17:07] <mdr> yeah, aint it fun ldp!
[17:07] <Assurbanipal> in which partitins will the installed program files be kept? and will it be easier that way for later upgrades?
[17:07] <ldp> EVERYONE migrate
[17:07] <jussi01> thanks ldp :)
[17:08] <jussi01> Assurbanipal: thae actual files are in the root partition, but if you have a home partition then a lot of the settings are there
[17:08] <mdr> can you put /home and / on seperate partitions after the install is already done?  Or do you need to reinstall
[17:08] <jussi01> !home
[17:08] <little> Assurbanipal: As far as I know, installations would go into specific directories in the root partition. Configuration that you've specified is stored in your Home partition.
[17:09] <jussi01> mdr: so thats a yes...
[17:09] <little> You definitely don't need to reinstall to move things to different partitions. Linux is wonderful. (:
[17:09] <ldp> +1 little
[17:10] <ldp> little: do you run a server?
[17:10] <Assurbanipal> ok, i see... so plz, some recomendation of sizes? would 10GB for system and 15Gb of user do ok?? also regarding future updates??
[17:10] <ldp> Assurbanipal: what is the size of your HDD?
[17:10] <little> I run a virtual server (JeOS) under VirtualBox.
[17:10] <Assurbanipal> if i upgrade to kubuntu 8.10 when it will be released i mean
[17:11] <ldp> Assurbanipal: that would be fine (10 and 15)
[17:11] <ldp> little: my system is too slow for me to run a virtual one
[17:11] <ldp> but I might try that once in a while
[17:11] <ldp> my latest project is FreeBSD
[17:12] <little> Assurbanipal: You can change the size of partitions later if you find that a partition isn't quite big enough, or is too big.
[17:12] <Assurbanipal> it is 60GB. but i will also need some space for windows as i use m laptop for work
[17:12] <Assurbanipal> i hope i won;t waste any space that way,,
[17:13] <Assurbanipal> little, how coult i do that?? full disk space will be used, i will have installed windows too.. could the partitions be resized?
[17:13] <little> ldp: Mine used to be.
[17:13] <ldp> A!
[17:14] <ldp> MySQL, I hte you
[17:14] <ldp> Whenever I try to change something. it sys "Access Denied"
[17:15] <little> Assurbanipal: I recommend looking at how much space you're currently using with the df -h command in a terminal window. Then right-click the /home folder to see how big it is. If you want to create a separate /home partition, you'll need to make it at least as big as it currently is, but most likely bigger so you have room for new files.
[17:15] <little> Assurbanipal: Also, once you decide to repartition, however much space you give to the new /home partition will need to be removed from the / partition so it can be given to the new partition.
[17:16] <little> Assurbanipal: I use http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[17:17] <little> Assurbanipal: It's a wonderful program which can be run from CD. I've found it to be very stable for resizing partitions. I don't know about everyone else, but I've never lost any data as a result of using it.
[17:17] <little> ldp: Did you log in successfully?
[17:17] <ldp> little: fixed it
[17:18] <little> Whoever it was that asked about KDE 3 and KDE 4, the development team says KDE 3 won't be released in the new versions <sigh>.
[17:18] <little> ldp: Yay!
[17:19] <little> ldp: What was wrong? <--- curiosity killed the cat and all that (:
[17:20] <little> Assurbanipal: But just in case, back up everything before trying this!
[17:21] <jeroen-> does anyone know how to be able to connect to a kde remote desktop (krdc) with Ubuntu?
[17:21] <jeroen-> t gives a password, but doesnt want to login with vinagre
[17:21] <jeroen-> krdc uses vnc right?
[17:24] <Tm_T> jeroen-: IIRC no
[17:24] <little> jeroen: Is this of any use? http://www.debianadmin.com/remote-desktop-sharing-in-ubuntu.html
[17:25] <Tm_T> jeroen-: ah, sorry, it does
[17:31] <ja1> What would be the best calendar program you know of?
[17:42] <Sarasvati> Hello :)
[17:43] <Sarasvati> Question: My professor told us we have to use the program endnote, but does anyone know if there's a linuxversion of that program or something that looks like it?
[17:47] <little> It looks like Bibus might be an equivalent for Endnote: http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[17:48] <Ahmuck> hi.  i need to change my video resolution.  how?
[17:49] <mdr> Endnote is a commercial program.  Its windows and mac, and the mac may have to be intel based.  Don't know if there's a linux equivalent
[17:50] <Sarasvati> Just found something called Kbib on the internet, but I can't find it in adept updater
[17:50] <Ahmuck> http://folk.ntnu.no/greenall/files/EndNoteLinux.pdf
[17:50] <Ahmuck> endnote on linux
[17:50] <little> Ahmuck: Are you using a special driver, or is your video driver supplied by Kubuntu?
[17:51] <Ahmuck> acutally i'm in kubuntu.  i have a large screen and want to reduce it to 10xx by 6xx
[17:51] <Ahmuck> er, xubuntu
[17:51] <Sarasvati> Kbib sounds better, but I can't find it in adept updater
[17:51] <Ahmuck> but there is some command line thingy i can't remember for reconfiguring
[17:52] <Ahmuck> http://ftp.ula.ve/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kbib/
[17:54] <little> It used to be Ctrl Alt -  and Ctrl Alt +  but those don't seem to work any more.
[17:58] <little> Kubuntu Forums post on changing resolutions: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3096276.0
[18:16] <nikolas__> is the release date of ubuntu 8.10 known?
[18:20] <o0Chris0o> !intrepid
[18:20] <richardbh> hi - when I logged on after a full update today, it ran a desktop setup wizard - is this normal? Kubuntu now makes a lot more noise than before; maximising, opening, closing etc.
[18:47] <nicholasstorman> Hello
[18:48] <nicholasstorman> Does anyone know where I can get to edit the applications menu?
[18:50] <billos> bonsoir
[18:51] <nicholasstorman> Does anyone know where the applications menu is located
[18:52] <jussi01> nicholasstorman: just right click iirc
[18:53] <nicholasstorman> I don't want to pm someone unless I have permission
[18:54] <jussi01> nicholasstorman: no, you can edit the applications menu with a right click...
[18:54] <jussi01> open it, then right click on it...
[18:54] <nicholasstorman> I know but it's not in .config it's somewhere else
[18:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> help, for some reason when i open a file on abiword or openoffice and i try to alter it, nothing will type...as in no characters appear when typing, what's the problem?
[19:05] <MrPan> m
[19:11] <bastid_raZor> for KDE3 when might 2.2.7 of Ktorrent be released?
[19:34] <administrator> hi
[19:34] <administrator> can anyone help me out
[19:34] <administrator> i have a question
[19:34] <administrator> ???
[19:35] <icyfeet> About what?
[19:36] <Ash-Fox> Caution, administrador is private messaging users here.
[19:36] <administrator> terminal showz an error in my host name
[19:36] <administrator> sorry am new here
[19:38] <rickest> administrator: just state your problem specifically, if someone can help they will
[19:38] <administrator> compiz check is not getting loaded
[19:39] <administrator> i loaded kubuntu on ubuntu8.04
[19:39] <rickest> what is "compiz check"?
[19:40] <administrator> its for special effects of the desktop
[19:40] <administrator> i believe
[19:41] <administrator> http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[19:41] <administrator> this site can give more info
[19:42] <rickest> compiz-check just tells you if compiz will work.  does compiz-check show a problem?
[19:46] <administrator> this is the error i c
[19:46] <xmanhere> what error ?
[19:46] <administrator> administrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ compiz-check --version
[19:46] <administrator> bash: compiz-check: command not found
[19:46] <administrator> administrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ sudo compiz-check --version
[19:46] <administrator> sudo: unable to resolve host malik2007@vsnl.net
[19:46] <administrator> [sudo] password for administrator: sendmail: warning: valid_hostname: invalid character 64(decimal): malik2007@vsnl.net
[19:46] <administrator> sendmail: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter myhostname: bad parameter value: malik2007@vsnl.net
[19:47] <administrator> actually i had changed my host name
[19:47] <rickest> no idea, have never used compiz-check.  Have you followed a guide for installing compiz on Kubuntu?
[19:47] <administrator> earlier in ubuntu
[19:47] <administrator> yeah i did ric
[19:48] <administrator> btw  can i correct my hostname to default
[19:48] <rickest> forgetting about compiz-check for a minute, what happens when you run kde/compiz?
[19:48] <administrator> ??
[19:48] <administrator> okay ric
[19:48] <administrator> it showed errors in my host name
[19:48] <administrator> aomething which i did not copy
[19:48] <rickest> what does 'hostname -f' say?
[19:49] <administrator> administrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ hostname -f
[19:49] <administrator> hostname: Unknown host
[19:50] <administrator> that is what it says
[19:51] <rickest> try setting it: hostname [some_name_here]
[19:51] <administrator> ok
[19:52] <RenzoreK> Is it true that now proprietary multimedia codecs are only for sale, making Kubuntu commercialized?
[19:52] <starenka> :))))))))))))))))))))))))
[19:59] <administrator> [11:24] <administrator> it is now changed from root
[19:59] <administrator> [11:24] <administrator> sucessfully
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> administrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ hostname arshad
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> hostname: you must be root to change the host name
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> administrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ sudo hostname arshad
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> sudo: unable to resolve host malik2007@vsnl.net
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> sendmail: warning: valid_hostname: invalid character 64(decimal): malik2007@vsnl.net
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> sendmail: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter myhostname: bad parameter value: malik2007@vsnl.net
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> administrator@malik2007@vsnl:~$ sudo -i
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> sudo: unable to resolve host arshad
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> sendmail: warning: valid_hostname: invalid character 64(decimal): malik2007@vsnl.net
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> sendmail: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter myhostname: bad parameter value: malik2007@vsnl.net
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> root@arshad:~# hostname arshad
[19:59] <administrator> [11:25] <administrator> root@arshad:~#
[19:59] <administrator> [11:26] <administrator> d u copy me................... rick???
[20:01] <jussi01> !paste | administrator
[20:17] <rickest> administrator: so you set your hostname now?
[20:19] <administrator> ya i did
[20:19] <administrator> rick
[20:25] <administrator> amm unable to install compiz fusion on kubuntu
[20:25] <administrator> errors here
[20:25] <administrator> ????????????///
[20:29] <threewood_> Does anyone know why Firefox starts on a seemingly random desktop instead of on my active one?
[20:37] <axel_> Hello! Is there a way to access a MS exchange server with kmail?
[20:40] <RenzoreK> Does anyone know the command line argument to lock my session?
[20:56] <nielsslot> RenzoreK: for KDE3, try what it says here http://www.debianhelp.org/node/9114
[21:01] <RenzoreK> nielsslot: Thanks, worked
[21:01] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i am installin kubuntu, can someone help me out partitioning?
[21:02] <axel_> Assurbanipal: OK.
[21:03] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Do you have any other operating systems on the HDD you want to install Kubuntu on?
[21:03] <Assurbanipal> axel_, i want one partition for the system files and another for the home partition... i also have xp on the systemn
[21:04] <Assurbanipal> axel_, i want a 15gb for the system files partition and 10 for the user (home)
[21:04] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Do you have to "decrease" the the XP-partition?
[21:05] <Assurbanipal> axel_, i am in the installation screen where i select the partitions. which mount point should i select for each?? and do you think the size of each partition is ok??i do not need to touch the xp partition
[21:05] <Assurbanipal> axel_, got 45gb free
[21:05] <Assurbanipal> axel_, unpartitioned space
[21:06] <axel_> Assurbanipal: 15gb for the system files is a little bit too much - in my opinion.
[21:06] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Do you have any experiences with Linux so far?
[21:06] <Assurbanipal> axel_, ok,10gb then?? it must be enough for future upgrades...
[21:07] <sourcemaker> !pastbin
[21:07] <sourcemaker> !pastebin
[21:07] <Assurbanipal> axel_, i ve been using kubuntu for a while,but this is the first time i install it like that, in seperated partitions for user and system
[21:07] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Currently my system files are about 5GB.
[21:07] <axel_> Assurbanipal: 10 gb should be OK.
[21:07] <Assurbanipal> axel_, so, 10gb for system... will this be enough for os and progs?
[21:07] <sourcemaker> apt will autoremove the following packages... it's this wrong for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/50614/
[21:08] <sourcemaker> using kde 4.1.1
[21:08] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Do you burn DVD+/-R DL?
[21:08] <Assurbanipal> dl??
[21:08] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Double layer.
[21:08] <Assurbanipal> no... not so far,haven't needed it
[21:09] <axel_> Assurbanipal: It depends on the programs you install. But I think It
[21:09] <axel_> 's OK.
[21:10] <Assurbanipal> ok, 10 it will be then...
[21:10] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Wich programms do you want to install.
[21:10] <Assurbanipal> nohting special i think so far... no too many extras.. but i do need to be able to copy dvd's with k9copy for example..
[21:11] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Background for the DVD-Question. K3B stores the tmp-files on the system partition. If there is not enough space on this partition you have to change the directory. That's all.
[21:11] <Assurbanipal> ok, so 10 gb will be enough u say
[21:12] <administrator> rick u there
[21:12] <administrator> ??
[21:12] <axel_> Assurbanipal: It depends on k9copy stores its tmp-files. Usually you should be able to select the tmp-directory.
[21:12] <axel_> Assurbanipal: 10 gb should be enough.
[21:12] <Assurbanipal> ok, it will be 12gm + 2 gb swap = 15gb, fair enough?
[21:12] <Assurbanipal> :D
[21:13] <Assurbanipal> haha i meant 13gb!
[21:13] <sourcemaker> ist autoremove always safe?
[21:13] <axel_> Assurbanipal: 13gb for the system partition?
[21:13] <administrator> i hav a queation
[21:13] <Assurbanipal> yes!
[21:13] <administrator> i hav a qustion
[21:13] <Assurbanipal> and another 10 for the user?
[21:14] <administrator> tks
[21:14] <administrator> Assur can u help m
[21:14] <Assurbanipal> or maybe 15gb for the user-total of 30gb
[21:14] <axel_> Assurbanipal: I think you will use 50% of it. But OK. Let's move foward.
[21:14] <Assurbanipal> ok!
[21:14] <axel_> Assurbanipal: The rest of the 45GB is for the home-partition?
[21:15] <Assurbanipal> no!!
[21:15] <Assurbanipal> i will make a "share" partition for both windows and linux
[21:15] <Assurbanipal> so i was thinking for a 15gb home partition
[21:15] <administrator> do i need to  wait
[21:15] <administrator> ?
[21:16] <axel_> Assurbanipal: It depends on the files you want to store on that partition. For me 15gb would be a little bit too small.
[21:16] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Please notice that the FAT32 filesystem does only support files with the max size of 2GB.
[21:17] <Assurbanipal> ok, let's start with the system partition. it will be 12 gb and the type primary right?
[21:17] <Assurbanipal> (the shared partition will be ntfs"
[21:17] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Type: primary
[21:17] <axel_> Assurbanipal: mountpoint: /
[21:17] <Assurbanipal> ext3 journaling right?
[21:18] <axel_> Assurbanipal: That's standard. I'd not change it.
[21:18] <Assurbanipal> ok this is the system partition right??
[21:18] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Y
[21:18] <Assurbanipal> done with it!
[21:18] <Assurbanipal> lets go to the user's partition now
[21:19] <axel_> Assurbanipal: One word for the exchange-partition. Linux can write on NTFS-partitions but it can't handle the "owner"-information.
[21:19] <Assurbanipal> meaning what?
[21:20] <axel_> Assurbanipal: That means that it mght be that you store a file with Linux on that partition and you need to have admin-rights under windows to be able to read it.
[21:20] <Assurbanipal> i will have admin rights
[21:21] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Than that should not be a problem.
[21:21] <Assurbanipal> no probs with that..
[21:21] <Assurbanipal> ok
[21:21] <axel_> Assurbanipal: OK. Let
[21:21] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Let's move to the home-partition (partition with the user-data)
[21:21] <Assurbanipal> so the users partition will also be a primary, ext3 again right?
[21:22] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Type: does not matter
[21:22] <Assurbanipal> ok
[21:22] <axel_> Assurbanipal: mountpoint: /home
[21:22] <Assurbanipal> done!
[21:22] <Assurbanipal> that was it?
[21:22] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Filesystem: ext3 (I'd suggest)
[21:22] <Assurbanipal> now i only need the swap file right? about 2gb?
[21:23] <axel_> Assurbanipal: It's a swap-partition but otherwhise you are right.
[21:23] <axel_> Assurbanipal: How much RAM do you have?
[21:23] <Assurbanipal> 1gb
[21:24] <axel_> Assurbanipal: OK. 2GB is lagre but OK.
[21:24] <Assurbanipal> should it be smaller u think?
[21:24] <Assurbanipal> i don;t knw if it matters but i am on a laptop
[21:24] <axel_> Assurbanipal: one sec please.
[21:24] <Assurbanipal> ..
[21:24] <stdin> do you need hibernation support?
[21:25] <Assurbanipal> does it work/? i don't think it does... but should it work,i d loke to have it
[21:25] <Assurbanipal> *like
[21:25] <axel_> Assurbanipal: With 2gb you won't be too small.
[21:26] <stdin> if you want it then your swap should be at least 1.5x RAM
[21:26] <Assurbanipal> ok 2gb then
[21:27] <axel_> Assurbanipal: I'd do that.
[21:27] <Assurbanipal> ok,done!
[21:27] <axel_> Assurbanipal: then the exchange-partition.
[21:27] <axel_> Assurbanipal: OR?
[21:27] <Assurbanipal> i will fix it later mate..
[21:28] <axel_> Assurbanipal: OK. Any further questions so far?
[21:28] <Assurbanipal> :) i was only troubled with the seperated system/user partitions
[21:28] <Assurbanipal> no,i think i am ok now...
[21:28] <Assurbanipal> i suppose the advantage of what i did is that it offers more security to the files i wil be working on,right?
[21:28] <axel_> Assurbanipal: When you mount the exchange partition its mountpoint should be /media/[something like exchange]
[21:29] <Assurbanipal> meaning that if i reinstall/upgrade for some reason kubuntu, they will not be touched right?
[21:30] <axel_> Assurbanipal: For me it's convenience. You can exchange the Linux-distribution without having to configure the programs again.
[21:30] <axel_> Assurbanipal: You culd also encrypt this partition.
[21:30] <RenzoreK> Once you reinstall the programs ;)
[21:30] <Assurbanipal> ok,i see!
[21:30] <Assurbanipal> tnx!
[21:30] <axel_> Assurbanipal: recomenndable for laptops
[21:30] <Assurbanipal> not for desktops?
[21:31] <axel_> RenzoreK Assurbanipal: OK. you have to reinstall them but you do not have to configure them again
[21:32] <axel_> Assurbanipal: When the desktop is in a secure environment (environment just trustworthy persons have access to).
[21:32] <RenzoreK> axel_: I know that, this is how my system is set up, Im just making it clear for some users that if you change distros, your personal files, and programs won't be there. Just the raw files (and configs) if they are on a seperate partition, you need to reinstall all your programs (First time I did this I didn't know which programs I had installed )
[21:32] <axel_> Assurbanipal: It also depends on how paranoid you are. ;)
[21:33] <Assurbanipal> axel_,  :P
[21:34] <axel_> Assurbanipal: But for a mobile system encripting all partitions is a good thing to do. Just imagine you loose your laptop.
[21:34] <Assurbanipal> after i create the swap partition... it says that the remaining 10gb is "unusable".
[21:34] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Strange. I have no idea.
[21:34] <Assurbanipal> why that?shouldn't i be able to create more partitions??
[21:35] <favro> you can only have 4 primary partitions
[21:35] <axel_> Assurbanipal: I'd just try it.
[21:35] <Assurbanipal> what do u guys mean?? what should i do? don't wanna lose that 10gb of space!
[21:36] <axel_> favro Assurbanipal: that's right. But why shouldn't it be possible to create secondary partitions?
[21:36] <axel_> Assurbanipal: Just for testing: Try to create a secondary partition.
[21:36] <favro> an extended partition is a primary one
[21:36] <Assurbanipal> should i just make the swap partition lgical?
[21:37] <Assurbanipal> ok,now it works///
[21:37] <axel_> Assurbanipal: you could make the home-partition logical.
[21:37] <Assurbanipal> i get the "new partition" option enabled
[21:38] <Assurbanipal> should i make them both? if i do so,will i be able to resize later if needed?
[21:38] <axel_> Assurbanipal: as far as I know the main difference between the partition types is that primary partitions are bootable.
[21:38] <Assurbanipal> ok,then i should make them both logical and that's all,right? both swap and home partitions?
[21:39] <axel_> Assurbanipal: I have no experience resizing partitions with ext3 filesystems.
[21:39] <favro> extended ones can be bootable as well
[21:39] <axel_> favro: really? That's new to me.
[21:39] <Assurbanipal> favro, so what's the difference?
[21:40] <Assurbanipal> (i 've made both home and swap partitions logical)
[21:40] <favro> what do you mean what's the diff?
[21:40] <Assurbanipal> (should i continue this way)
[21:40] <Assurbanipal> ?
[21:40] <axel_> Assurbanipal favro:CU!
[21:41] <Assurbanipal> bye axel_ tnx!
[21:41] <Assurbanipal> favro, if i continue with both partitions as logical will it be ok?
[21:41] <favro> sure it will :)
[21:41] <Assurbanipal> tnx!
[21:48] <administrator> i hav a prob here
[21:48] <administrator> administrator@arshad:~$ ccsm
[21:48] <administrator> GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[21:48] <administrator> GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[21:48] <administrator> GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[21:48] <administrator> GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[21:48] <administrator> administrator@arshad:~$
[21:48] <administrator> can anyone help
[21:49] <favro> !paste | administrador
[21:49] <favro> !topic | administrador
[21:50] <administrator> topic
[22:11] <marekt>  hi is it ossible to install apps on windows mobile device from linux?
[22:14] <doc_> hi. i could use some support, i am unable to upgrade from 6.10 -> 7.04 (error: 404 not found)
[22:15] <sonia> hi i want to go from kubuntu to ubuntu can someone tell me hoe??
[22:16] <sonia> i have been trying to install skype on kubuntu is just cant get it
[22:16] <sonia> is there anyone here
[22:35] <Assurbanipal> guys, i 've installed kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 remix, how do i upgrade to kde 4.1?
[22:38] <edgy> Hi, how can I set the clock in the panel to show 12h time instead of the current 24h?
[22:40] <rickest> edgy: right-click the clock, date & time format, time format
[22:42] <edgy> rickest: when I right-click there is no option date and time format. I have "Digital Clock Settings" I tried this but can't see a way to change the format. this is kde4
[22:43] <rickest> edgy: ah, I don't know KDE4.  you've obviously looked under Dig Clck Settings, I take it
[22:44] <edgy> rickest: yes I can change the font, color, timezone, year but can't change the format. let me ask in #kubuntu-kde4 and see ...
[23:01] <richardbh> hi
[23:03] <richardbh> as i logon i get an error sound - does anyone know where the kde(?) log file is kept?
[23:06] <novacrasher> can someone help me install a program from a tar.gz file? I am used to using adept :)
[23:08] <novacrasher> I extracted the tar.gz file using ark into a directory but I can't seem to find a shell file to run... Any suggestons?
[23:10] <ldp> yay
[23:33] <diego_> Buenas noches a todos/a
[23:33] <eagles0513875> !es
[23:33] <diego_> Good night for everybody from Spain
[23:33] <eagles0513875> lol whoops#
[23:33] <eagles0513875> sry diego lol thought you needed the spanish channel
[23:34] <diego_> thanks
[23:49] <Haza> Evening folks. Im using Kubuntu 7. Is there anything i need to know before i upgrade to kubuntu 8?
[23:56] <mearshmptn> ?
[23:56] <richardbh> is there any way to find out what caused an error noise to be played?
[23:56] <eagles0513875> google richardbh
[23:57] <richardbh> eagles0513875: any suggestions as to keywords? I keep turning up results about problems with sounds
[23:58] <richardbh> my problem is that I know theres an error somewhere whenever I log on, because the error thunk noise plays...i just dont know what the error is
[23:58] <eagles0513875> richardbh: you could also check dmesg or in the /proc or in /var/logs