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Verterokintellectronica: the searchTasks feature in launchpadlib looks gooood :), nice job!00:51
intellectronicathanks, Verterok!01:05
wgrantintellectronica: Good to see that issue was fixed so quickly. Thanks.01:09
* intellectronica wonders if the compliments always start that late01:09
intellectronicai obviously go to sleep too early most nights :D01:09
wgrantHeh.01:09
intellectronicawgrant: thanks for the help testing it, b.t.w01:10
wgrantintellectronica: Um, sure.01:10
intellectronicaand now ...01:11
* intellectronica --> zzz01:11
wgrantNight.01:11
Peng_jml: Ping?03:40
jmlPeng_: howdy03:40
Peng_jml: Hi. :D03:41
jml('Peng: pong' would have been simply too much fun.)03:41
Peng_:)03:41
Peng_Hm03:42
Peng_jml: So...I have a knit branch, lp:~mnordhoff/pytz/pytz-2008f. LP was finally able to mirror it over bzr+http, and then... it complains about a missing revision. Any idea?03:43
Peng_"bzr check" reports a ghost and "1 revisions missing parents in ancestry", but the revision in question is present.03:44
jmlPeng_: well, the idea that's bouncing around in my head like a pinball is that it's a bzr bug.03:44
jmlPeng_: also, I've seen other cases where that error shows up when it shouldn't.03:45
Peng_Huh.03:45
Peng_Hmm, when did "AssertionError: <bzrlib.bzrdir.BzrDirMeta1 object at 0x95c4a0c> is not a RemoteBzrDir" happen? That's on one of my older branches that hasn't been mirrored in ages.03:46
Peng_Oh, 2008-08-01.03:46
jmlyay logs :)03:46
jmlPeng_: can you request another mirror?03:47
Peng_Yeah, I am.03:47
Peng_Wait, another mirror of which branch?03:47
jmlthe one with the AssertionError.03:48
Peng_OK. Yeah, I am then.03:48
Peng_It's going now.03:48
Peng_Ooh, done.03:51
Peng_It's complaining about the missing revision now too. (It's lp:~mnordhoff/pytz/pytz-2008e, the parent of the other branch.)03:51
Peng_Hey, it was able to mirror one of my pack branches from another project. At least something works. :P03:57
Peng_LP has no problem mirroring a pack copy of the branch that has the revision error.04:09
tgm4883_laptopIs there something special I need to do to get the launchpad janitor to auto expire bugs in my project?04:10
beunotgm4883_laptop, you have to specify it in your project's details04:12
beunoso, go to your projects overview page04:12
beunoand click on "Change details"04:12
wgrantIs that under bugs.lp.net yet?04:12
beunonope04:12
* wgrant imagines "X bugs can expire (!)"04:13
wgrantWith the (!) being the edit icon.04:13
beunosure, unless you really don't want them to04:13
beunoyou keep on seeing that anyway04:13
wgrantHm?04:13
beunoif you don't want bugs to expire04:14
beunoyou would see that message all the time04:14
wgrantYou do already, don't you?04:14
beunodo you?04:14
* beuno looks04:14
beunoyou do!04:15
Peng_Heh, "This branch may be out of date, as Launchpad has not been able to access between 2008-06-30  and 2008-07-04."04:15
beunoedit icon would be nice then  :)04:15
wgrantbeuno: Good, so I wasn't going crazy.04:15
beunowgrant, no, I am04:15
tgm4883_laptopbeuno, it is04:16
wgrantHeh.04:16
tgm4883_laptopbeuno, that is set, yet some bugs are way old04:17
wgranttgm4883_laptop: Which is a bug that you think should have been expired?04:17
tgm4883_laptopsec04:17
tgm4883_laptopbug 15161204:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 151612 in mythbuntu "Remote not supported" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15161204:18
tgm4883_laptopfor instance, that one04:18
tgm4883_laptopwe had one that was 262 days old that was marked for expiration, but someone marked it invalid04:19
Ursinhahey danilo[home]__, you there?04:19
tgm4883_laptoplp also lists 32 bugs that can expire04:19
wgrantbeuno: Hmm, I guess that wouldn't actually work.04:21
wgrantIt's not shown when there are no expirable bugs.04:22
wgrantWhich happens both when there are no incomplete bugs untouched for 60 days, or if expiry is turned on.04:22
wgrantBut it seems that expiry doesn't work too well.04:22
beunoBjornT, ping?  ^04:22
Peng_How many branches are mirrored at once?04:31
thumperPeng_: up to 1004:38
* thumper thinks04:38
thumpermaybe 404:38
thumpercan't remember04:38
mwhudson404:40
jmlyou know what would be good?04:42
jmlmetrics.04:42
jmllots of metrics.04:43
Peng_I just got it t ouse 8.72 Mbit of bandwidth. :)04:43
Peng_to use*04:43
Peng_Is it supposed to be able to mirror rich-root-pack branches?04:44
mwhudsonyes04:46
Peng_Well it can't.04:47
Peng_"KnitPackRepository('lp-mirrored:///~mnordhoff/bzr-svn/new-style-classes/.bzr/repository') is not compatible with ..."04:47
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krokosjablikHello, I cannot change the project name myself, is it right? I have asked for this in Launchpad answers just now, is it the right place for such requests? Thanks.09:28
wgrantkrokosjablik: That's the right place.09:28
krokosjablikwgrant: Many thanks!09:29
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jjessegood morning, i'm sure you all know about it already, but logging into launchpad this morning w/ konqueror on intrepid i get a message about the google map api key being rejected?13:41
marssalgado, ^13:41
jjessesalgado: i get the error message on both edge and launchpad13:42
salgadojjesse, bug 27161313:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271613 in launchpad-foundations "Google Maps API Key Error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27161313:43
jjesseah ok, i wanted to make sure someone hadn't already reported it before i filed something13:43
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pro-rsoftHey, when I click Propose as goal it immediately gets marked as "Accepted for x.x.x" instead of "Proposed". How to mark something as Proposed but not Accepted?13:57
pro-rsoftor isnt that possible?14:08
Hobbseepro-rsoft: it's not possible, as far as I know - but should you be able to set those anyway?14:10
pro-rsoftshould I register an account that is not admin and propose it there? is that the only way?14:10
Hobbseei'd sya so14:11
pro-rsofthmm.14:11
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jmota can anyone tell me why the icons in the top pannel(date, end session, sound...) sometimes get out of the place when i iniciate ubuntu?15:06
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andrea-bsHello! https://launchpad.net/launchpad says "See https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project for details..."16:36
andrea-bsthe problem is that the url includes "edge"16:36
tgm4883_laptopandrea-bs, that would be for launchpad beta testers16:38
andrea-bstgm4883_laptop: I don't think so: I see non-edge links on https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project16:39
tgm4883_laptopandrea-bs, go to https://launchpad.net/ and turn off redirection16:39
andrea-bstgm4883_laptop: the "edge" still be there16:40
tgm4883_laptopandrea-bs, if you turn off redirection, then go to https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project it should be fine16:41
tgm4883_laptopthat will only last for 2 hours though, but this is just to prove that it's fine anyway16:42
tgm4883_laptopyou could also log out and go to https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project16:42
andrea-bstgm4883_laptop: sorry, I mean: the link in the page https://launchpad.net/launchpad include the "edge"; this is OK for betatesters, but not for other people16:44
andrea-bs-See https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project for details on the other components that make up the project.16:44
andrea-bs+See https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project for details on the other components that make up the project.16:44
rockstarandrea-bs, why is not good for other people?16:44
tgm4883_laptopandrea-bs, the edge site only shows up for betatesters16:45
tgm4883_laptopregular users don't get the redirection16:45
andrea-bsrockstar: for example if they go to edge.lp.net/launchpad-project and click on "report a bug" they need to login an another time16:45
rockstarI mean, I see what you're saying, but it's not a huge issue.16:45
andrea-bsrockstar: sure16:45
tgm4883_laptopi'm not sure I understand16:46
tgm4883_laptopnon beta testers never see the edge link16:48
andrea-bsit's just a small typo in the url: launchpad.net should be "standard", not "edge.lp.net"16:48
tgm4883_laptopit is16:48
tgm4883_laptopunless you are a beta tester16:48
tgm4883_laptopwhich I thought was what you were trying to say16:48
andrea-bsI'm talking about the project summary of lp.net/launchpad16:48
rockstarandrea-bs, are you on the beta testers team?16:48
andrea-bsrockstar: yes, I am16:48
tgm4883_laptopand you are worried that non beta testers will see the edge link?16:49
rockstarThat's why then.  It would show the link differently if you weren't.16:49
andrea-bstgm4883_laptop: no, of course16:49
tgm4883_laptopthen......i'm confused16:49
andrea-bsrockstar: but if I log out I still see "edge" in the summary16:50
andrea-bsthe link has been set in https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+edit16:50
tgm4883_laptopah I get it now16:50
andrea-bsthat's why it includes edge for everyone16:50
rockstarandrea-bs, ah, I see the link you're talking about.16:50
tgm4883_laptopso edit it and remove the edge part16:50
mpthm16:52
mptI've forgotten what "focus of development" means16:52
mptAnyone know?16:52
tgm4883_laptopmpt, that would be where all of the development is focused?16:53
mptYes, what does that mean?16:53
tgm4883_laptopit's were most of the projects development is taking place16:53
tgm4883_laptopie, trunk16:53
tgm4883_laptopor for ubuntu, it's intrepid16:54
mptIt can't just mean trunk, because projects have a "trunk" series by default16:54
mptand yet it's still possible to change "development focus" to a different series16:54
mptsalgado, do you know?16:55
tgm4883_laptopI assume thats because you don't have to call it trunk16:55
tgm4883_laptopyou could call it intrepid16:55
tgm4883_laptopand when you release intrepid, you could then change it to jackalope16:56
salgadompt, isn't that just a way to define what lp:project-name will point to?16:57
salgadoor does lp:project-name always point to trunk?16:57
mptsalgado, does that mean it's useful only if you use Launchpad for code hosting?16:57
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salgadompt, not sure.  I have no idea what I'm talking about here.  rockstar should know, for sure16:58
mpthm, looks like it's also used in Bugs somehow17:01
rockstarmpt, the trunk is usually considered "focus of development"17:04
mptrockstar, in what cases would it not be?17:05
rockstarBasically, it indicates where all the development is going on, so you know where to branch from to get the most up-to-date code.17:05
rockstarmpt, in cases where the development is shifted to another branch with a LARGE feature that requires many developer's focus.17:06
mptrockstar, so does changing the development focus change what bzr branch lp:project-name does?17:07
tgm4883_laptopi'd also think that trunk wasn't the development of focus leading up to a major release, where all development would be happening on that release17:07
rockstarYes.17:08
rockstarBranching from lp:foo will pull the current development focus for foo17:09
mptok17:09
mptrockstar, can you tell how it affects Bugs, or should I ask a Bugs person?17:09
rockstarmpt, best to ask bugs.  I didn't even know it affected them.17:09
mptok, thanks rockstar17:10
mptgmb, can you unpuzzle me? :-)17:10
gmbwsfg?17:11
mptgmb, a project's development focus affects how bugs work in some way but I can't tell what it is17:11
gmbOh, okay.17:12
* gmb looks.17:12
mpt(I'm in the middle of reporting a bug that this should be explained better)17:12
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gmbmpt: Good luck with that. It's horribly arcane in a lot of ways and is hell to describe, even in a code review.17:13
gmbmpt: Basically, though, if the project has a development focus then the bug task which is filed against that development focus is the master bug task for that bug.17:14
gmb(So you'll see things like "Tracked in foo-bar 0.2" in the slave bug tasks)17:14
rockstargmb, wtf?17:15
rockstarI didn't understand very much of that.17:15
gmbrockstar: Heh; I work with it and I don't get it every time.17:15
gmbErm, let me think about this.17:15
rockstargmb, :)17:16
gmbrockstar: So, say you file a bug against the fronobulator project.17:16
gmbSomeone then targets that bug to a release (not the current development focus).17:16
gmbThen someone else *also* targets it to the development focus release (well, series is the correct nomenclature here).17:17
gmbThere are then two bug tasks.17:17
gmbOne for fronobulator not-dev-focus17:17
gmband one for fronobulator dev-focus.17:17
rockstarOkay, so the conjoined master is what results.17:17
gmbCorrect.17:17
rockstarAh, okay, that makes more sense.17:17
mptSo the line for "Fronobulator" will say "Tracked in <whatever the development focus is>"17:18
gmbmpt: Right.17:18
mptgmb, what does it say before someone targets it to the development focus?17:20
mpt"Tracked in <old release>"? Or something else?17:20
gmbmpt: Let me check...17:25
gmbmpt: You just see two bug tasks. One for <Project>, one for <Series/Release>17:26
gmbmpt: https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/bugzilla-launchpad/+bug/27418617:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274186 in consolekit "console-kit-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in fclose@@GLIBC_2.2.5() (dup-of: 263245)" [Undecided,New]17:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 263245 in consolekit "console-kit-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in fclose()" [Medium,Confirmed]17:26
gmbHush, ubuntoid, you don't know what you're on about.17:27
gmbOh, it's ubuntoid's dumber brother, ubottu17:27
mptgmb, ok, thank you for your investigations17:28
gmbnp17:28
mptand explanations17:28
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cr3when I enqueued a branch for merging, will it be done automatically?18:23
cr3it's been enqueued for 2 hours, I'm wondering if I still need to merge manually and then LP will automatically detect the merge18:23
rockstarcr3, no, it wan't merge automatically.18:36
cr3rockstar: cheers dude, I would've waited a long time :)18:36
rockstarIf you want to merge automatically, you'll need to set up a PQM instance.18:36
rockstarWe'd like to make it so that enqueing it will allow an external PQM instance to see that queue and merge automatically, but we haven't gotten that far.18:37
pmatuliswhat is the difference between 'subscribers' and 'also notified' ?19:11
siretartthe latter are implicit subscribers19:32
BjornTpmatulis: what siretart said. 'also notified' are people like assignee and people subscribed to the whole project/package. 'subscribers' are people that has explicitly subscribed to the specific bug19:36
pmatulisBjornT: thank you19:39
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