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smb_tpCarlFK, This leaves me somewhat puzzled to the source of the problem. Ok, that the neither cpu has called broadcast enter at that stage is not a 100% proof that they are not in an idle state... But I might have to search somewhere around.00:07
CarlFKsmb_tp: this kernel doesn't pause: 00:16
CarlFK[    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.27-3-generic (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Ubuntu 4.3.2-1ubuntu6) ) #1 SMP Wed Sep 10 16:02:00 UTC 2008 (Ubuntu 2.6.27-3.4-generic)00:16
CarlFKI booted the beta clonezilla 00:16
CarlFKhttp://dev.personnelware.com/carl/a/dmesg24ck.txt00:17
CarlFKhmm00:18
CarlFKwrong file...00:18
CarlFKhttp://dev.personnelware.com/carl/a/dmesg25ck.txt00:19
smb_tpCarlFK, Could you post this to the bug, please. I have to leave but then I can look at that tomorrow00:22
CarlFKwill do00:40
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DBOhello everyone, can anyone help me figure out what the primary difference between the 2.6.26 rt kernel in intrepid is and its normal kernel01:23
DBOthe 2.6.26-rt kernel is the only one that will suspend for me, but it also randomly will hardlock while I am using it, which is kind of sucky01:23
CarlFKmjg59: nosmp = no pause 01:36
mjg59CarlFK: Hrm.01:36
CarlFKill post dmesg - anything else I should post?01:37
CarlFKwould nosmp explain the lack of [    2.438997] clockevents_set_mode(lapic, 3) [    2.439059] CPU#1: enter broadcast 01:41
CarlFKits from debugging that smb added  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17938610/dmesg24ck.txt01:42
CarlFK:q01:57
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DBOI have more information on resume from suspend freezing on T500's03:37
DBOit seems to be that the drm module is causing X to freeze03:37
DBOwell the whole system to freeze03:38
DBOrunning X without the drm module loaded fixes susped03:38
CarlFKDBO: have you opened a bug report?03:41
DBOCarlFK, a couple, but they never get confirmed03:41
DBOwell one for this issue03:41
CarlFKbe sure to add these comments to it03:41
CarlFKi hear ya on the lack of confirm - bugs me too03:41
DBOwell if I can get a little help I can add a lot more info03:42
DBOlike a possible fix03:42
DBOi need to be able to rebuild i915.ko03:42
DBOi have built and installed the latest libdrm03:42
DBOand drm.ko to match03:42
CarlFKhave you tried #ubuntu+1?03:42
CarlFKim not going to be much help 03:42
DBOthey directed me to #ubuntu-x03:42
DBOwho directed me to #ubuntu-kernel03:42
CarlFKlol03:42
wgrantHere is the right place.03:43
DBOwith latest drm.ko i get errors when trying to modprobe i91503:44
DBOi915: disagrees about version of symbol drm_open and a bunch of similar03:44
DBOi am not sure if this is something that a rebuild can fix03:44
DBOor if I need a more recent version of i91503:44
DBOto build a new version of i915.ko i need to get GEM support in xorg03:45
fabbioneguys, if you are not going to pull from the gfs* trees I made for you, your gfs stuff will be utterly broken05:48
fabbioneBenC: ^^^05:48
jwest--is it advisable to have two kernels08:08
jwest--a new and an old just in case one doesn't work..08:08
aboganiNo more with Intrepid08:15
jwest--it's not specific with ubuntu, i mean in general08:16
jwest--is it advisable?08:16
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lagaamitk: how's aufs coming along? i'd love to have that in beta.12:58
amitklaga: It looks good. I am thinking about a few changes to the Makefile. I'll try to push it out today12:59
lagamost appreciated :)12:59
lagathen after beta, i'll ask the aufs guy if the inotify option has a huge impact on performance by default so we can make wgrant happy13:00
amitklaga: you want to run inotify on / ? :)13:01
lagaamitk: aufs can use inotify to detect direct changes to a branch, and wgrant wants that for some reason or another13:03
amitkok13:05
ZhenechIntuitiveNipple, did you find out why hdaps_ec is missing?13:23
smb_tpZhenech, Hi mind a counter question? You are the debian maintainer of tp_smapi, right?13:26
Zhenechsmb_tp, yes13:27
smb_tpZhenech, Do you know how far or in which state generally the upstream integration of hdaps / tp_smapi is? When I looked at hdaps for hardy the driver from the package seemed further developed but there didn't seem much change in the kernel13:29
Zhenechsmb_tp, kernel guys refuse to include tp-smapi into the kernel, because tp-smapi upstream uses a pseudonym and the kernel guys are unsure about the source of his wisdom about the thinkpad controler13:32
Zhenechsmb_tp, but if we are lucky, we will see the hdaps_protect stuff in 2.6.2813:32
smb_tpZhenech, That would be great. :) Ok, then it was tp_smapi which I had lurking in my mind about this "unclear sources". Hmm, I thought someone else said those reservations were somehow settled. Would you think this applies to thinkpad_ec as well or would there be chances to get this accepted. If I understand correctly the kernel hdaps and the tp_smapi driver cannot run concurrently because they both exclusively access the ec.13:35
Zhenechsmb_tp, that applies to thinkpad_ec too13:43
Zhenechsmb_tp, and yes they cannot run together13:43
Zhenechsmb_tp, thats why I override the in-kernel hdaps completely when tp-smapi is installed13:44
smb_tpZhenech, A pitty. Yes, and I tried with a different name for hardy to leave a choice. Which in turn triggered questions about why... And maybe it was that reason the driver got dropped when moving from hardy to intrepid.13:46
Zhenechwhich makes patching in tp-smapi almost useless13:49
IntuitiveNippleHaving just read the LKML thread where it was refused, it reads as if the refusal was more dogmatic in the end13:57
Zhenechdidnt follow it closely to be honest13:58
IntuitiveNippleIt's pretty short and sweet14:00
DBOhow does one get the source for the linux-rt kernel?  It seems to have been removed from apt14:06
rtg_lamont: I just emailed you a patch for util-linux/hwclock. Is there a mailling list that it should also go on?14:24
lamontrtg: hwclock the binary, or hwclock.sh ?15:46
lamontthe first has a mailing list, where I can certainly forward the patch, the second is purely debian et al stuff15:46
rtglamont: hwclock the binary15:46
rtglamont: I've uploaded that fix for Hardy and Intrepid.15:47
lamontgrr15:48
rtglamont: ?15:48
* lamont points at the git repo referenced in debian/control...15:48
lamontI assume your patch is a git-patch?15:48
rtgyep15:48
lamontah, well then,  skip the 'grr' :-)15:49
lamontusually, "I've uploaded" == "go grab the deb, break up the diff, and commit it to git for them15:49
rtglamont: have you had your coffee yet this morning ?15:49
lamontheh15:49
rtgso, I accidentally did both for you :)15:50
lamontthanks15:50
* lamont kinda bets that it's one diff with debian/changelog and hwclock/* mixed in to one commit though15:51
lamontoh.  rock on rtg!!!15:52
rtglamont: nope, no changelog diff, only the patch to hwclock.15:52
lamontyeah - finally found the mail in my morning spamfest15:52
lamontthat #if is ugly though... what about x86_64?  other arch?15:54
rtgI just followed existing ifdefs15:54
rtgit works for amd6415:54
lamontok15:54
rtgI don't know of any other arches that have that RTC part.15:55
lamontis there an LP bug#?15:57
rtglamont: I created an SRU for Hardy. one sec...15:57
rtglamont: bug #27440215:58
lamontAddresses-Ubuntu-Bug: 27440215:59
lamontSigned-off-by: Tim Gardner <tim.gardner@canonical.com>15:59
lamontjust for future reference :)15:59
rtgI didn't know what policy was on your debian git repo, so I left it out of the commit.15:59
lamontno worries - my changelog-generator looks for Addresses-{Debian,Ubuntu}-Bug: NNN[, NNN, NNN]16:00
lamontI'll grab the source and get the tags to look right sometime today16:01
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sorenBenC: Do you remember our talking about the virtio modules' udeb in the context of netboot?16:44
sorenBenC: I talked to cjwatson. The verdict: 15:40:35 < cjwatson> I'd suggest http://paste.ubuntu.com/50526/16:45
BenCsoren: ok16:58
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rtgBenC: how come we're using the sourceforge e1000e driver ?18:02
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