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kirklandpersia: hey, i see you uploaded qemu last...  i'm trying to fix a bug  there, but i can even build the current package from source00:00
kirklandhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/17939088/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.qemu_0.9.1-5ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz00:00
kirklandpersia: curious if you're familiar?00:00
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jdongis a ~motu-release online at this hour? We need a 2nd vote on bug 20740401:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 207404 in gnome-panel "Blutooth Stopped Working" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20740401:00
jdongerr what the heck? bug 27040401:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 270404 in vlc "Please update VLC to 0.9.2" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27040401:00
* jdong could care less about 2.4GHz transmitters ;-)01:01
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persiakirkland: Sorry.  No idea.  I only added lpia as a build target architecture.  I'd suggest soren or IntuitiveNipple as people who might know.01:08
persiajdong: I heard j-d was preparing 0.9.3 to fix a couple last-minute bugs.01:09
jdongpersia: j-g but correct; though I'd hope to get 0.9.2 in by betafreeze for testing01:09
jdong0.9.3 should be simpler to approve on top of 0.9.201:09
jdongerr j-b actually01:10
persiaOh.  I thought I heard that 0.9.3 was coming out in the next day or two.01:10
jdongthat is true01:10
persia(some voiced consonant, anyway)01:10
jdongisn't betafreeze right at the corner though?01:10
persiaAh.  Indeed it is.01:11
j-bjdong: persia: I have some shitty windows bug to fix before tagging it01:13
jdongj-b: those are always fun :)01:13
j-bbut there will not be any modification for *nix versions01:13
j-bjdong: I hate windows01:14
persiaj-b: There are *nix changes between 0.9.2 and 0.9.3 though, right?01:14
j-bpersia: yes, minor ones01:14
j-bpersia: many crashes fix, some subtitles, some interface improvements01:14
persiajdong: Perhaps a 0.9.2+vcs... branch, pulling in those?01:14
persias/branch/version/01:15
j-bpersia: I am tagging 0.9.3 in less than 10hours hopefully01:15
jdongj-b: if that's the case then let's wait for it to come out :)01:15
persiaOh.  Then it oughtn't matter much.  It's already past midnight UTC on the 25th.01:15
kirklandpersia: thax01:15
jdongthat could potentially mean I actually get some homework done01:15
j-bjdong: I tagged 0.9.3-rc101:15
jdongj-b: cool; let's wait for final though because you and I know we'll start getting those "ZOMGZ BUT ITZ RC1!!!" bugs if we don't :D01:16
j-bjdong: agreed01:16
davismji want to help! omg!01:16
j-bjdong: biggest bugs where windows and OSX, though in 0.9.2, as expected01:17
jdongunderstandable01:17
davismjhelp me help you!01:18
persiadavismj: What do you want to do?01:31
* Hobbsee advises people about the upcoming closure of UDS sponsorship requests.01:37
davismjUDS?01:53
nhandlerdavismj: Ubuntu Developer Summit for Jaunty01:58
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copprook, I have a bug02:32
copproI don02:32
coppro*do not maintain the package and don't know the status02:33
copprobut how come libmudflap0 is outdated?02:33
copprohuh, nvm, it seems to be working now :/02:34
copprooh wait, I see the issue now02:37
* coppro files bug02:37
nxvlfinally internet again \o/02:43
Hobbseecoppro: bug #?02:47
copprohaven't made it yet; trying to decide how to proceed02:48
RAOFI don't suppose anyone else has got around to filing rebuild bugs against packages depending on libopenal0a?02:48
copprospecifically, what to file against02:48
Hobbseecoppro: what's the bug?02:48
copprosince I'm pretty sure libmudflap0-dev is redundant02:48
copproand outdated02:48
copproit is in universe, and libmudflap0 is in main and appears to fulfill all the required functionality02:50
copproI'm just verifying that it does02:50
ajmitchlibmudflap0-4.3-dev, is the package to replace it, perhaps02:51
ajmitchboth are built from gcc02:52
copproah, could be, if gcc is still installing 4.1 in intrepid02:53
copprono, gcc is at 4.3, but I'm building find without libmudflap0-dev, so I'm not quite sure what it's required for02:54
coppros/find/fine/02:54
persiaRAOF: Probably not.  We should rebuild them, as openal-soft fixes *lots* of bugs in openal02:56
bddebianWhoa, ajmitch speaketh :)02:56
RAOFpersia: Right.  Also because it renders them uninstallable, because libopenal0a isn't in the archives anymore.02:57
* ajmitch shuts up02:58
persiaHrm?  That shouldn't have happened unless everything was rebuilt, unless someone's not been following NBS guidelines.02:58
persiaPlus, the source for libopenal0a is available02:58
persiaSo in the worst case, we could reinstate it, but rebuilding is better.03:00
wgrant"(From Debian) Ro Release Team; superceded by openal-soft "03:00
wgrant(that's from the binary)03:01
persiaRAOF: What do you see that depends on libopenal0a?  My apt-cache says nothing.03:01
* wgrant agrees with persia.03:01
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persiawgrant: "Removed from Debian" is now also used for *binary* removals?  That's very dangerous, if true.03:01
wgrantpersia: It might have just inherited it from the source... I hope.03:01
wgranthttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/libopenal0a03:02
wgrant(hooray for being able to see the whole deletion comment now!)03:02
RAOFpersia: I see python-pyglet, libhugs-openal-bundled, libcoin40c2, and boson as rdepends of libopenal0a03:02
persiaRAOF: which arch?03:03
* persia checks other arches03:03
RAOFamd6403:03
wgrantAh.03:03
wgrantlibopenal0a is a Suggests.03:03
persiaThat's the one I checked first.03:03
wgrantEr, on libcoin40c203:03
wgrantlibhugs-openal-bundled is a Depends, which means something is buggy.03:04
RAOFAs is boson03:04
wgrantThis is bad.03:04
wgrantRAOF: What does apt-cache rdepends tell you?03:04
RAOF"I see python-pyglet, libhugs-openal-bundled, libcoin40c2, and boson as rdepends of libopenal0a"03:04
persiaI'm confused.  apt-cache rdepends tells me *nothing* for libopenal0a on amd6403:05
wgrantYou didn't say that was through apt-cache03:05
wgrantpersia: Same on i386.03:05
copprook, yeah, I see no purpose for libmudflap0{,-4.3}-dev03:05
wgrantIn both my normal installation and a chroot.03:05
RAOFOh, and libopenal1, but that's because it Replaces libopenal0a apparently.03:05
wgrantapt-cache is buggy somehow.03:05
wgrantMaybe the Replaces is interacting badly with something.03:06
persiaboson 0.13-4build1 FTBFS, which probably explains that one.03:06
wgrantHmm.03:06
wgrantMaybe it's because libopenal0a doesn't exist any more.03:06
wgrantBut RAOF has it installed.03:07
wgrantSo his apt knows about it, but ours don't...03:07
wgrantSeems a bit odd, but would explain it.03:07
RAOFCould be it.03:08
RAOFwgrant: Oh, while you're here... you've been doing the synaptics xinput work, right?  What info is useful if my System->Preferences->Mouse doesn't include a touchpad tab?03:09
wgrantRAOF: Yay! I was hoping for someone like you.03:10
wgrantA dev on IRC that has that problem is good news indeed, because no hardware I can find exhibits it.03:10
wgrantRAOF: xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"03:10
wgrantI need to know if it gives you an error, or a big list of properties.03:11
RAOFwgrant: BadDevice03:14
RAOF(That'd be the error, obviously)03:14
RAOFBut it appears under "xinput list"03:15
wgrantRAOF: Can you pastebin the error and your Xorg log?03:15
RAOFYeah, why not.03:16
crimsun\sh: do you have a git/bzr/.. tree for your current ia32-libs work?  I'm trying to preempt a Flash 10 debacle.03:17
RAOFwgrant: There'll be a brief haitus while I fix the corruption on my usb stick by reformatting ext303:18
wgrantRAOF: Sure, I'll be here for 10 hours yet...03:18
RAOFHm.  gparted fails at text escaping.03:19
RAOFwgrant: Oops, seems my usb stick is toast.  Anyway, have Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/f7c7474bd and error http://paste2.org/p/7842603:47
RAOFAlso, gnome-do + "selected text" + pastebin + "copy to clipboard" = love.03:47
StevenKRAOF: Does gnome-do have a pastebin plugin? :-)03:48
RAOFStevenK: Totally.03:48
RAOFDo is pretty much made of awesome.03:49
Hobbseeyay, awesomeness!03:51
copprowhat is gnome-do?03:51
RAOFwgrant: Oh, and http://pastebin.com/f1067f136 is the boring xorg.conf.03:51
RAOFcoppro: A quicksilver-inspired graphical text interface.03:52
wgrantRAOF: Have you tried it with an Alpha 6 live CD to check that it's no config issue? There's nothing obviously wrong...03:53
RAOFwgrant: I haven't, no.  It was working previously at some point, though.  I'll give A6 a whirl later.03:55
wgrantRAOF: Right, thanks.03:59
wgrantRAOF: It probably only worked before I ported g-c-c and g-s-d to use XI properties.03:59
RAOFQuite possibly.04:00
Hobbseejdong: when are you going to action http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/13674/ ?04:28
Hobbseeno, not that.04:29
Hobbseehttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/27040404:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 270404 in vlc "Please update VLC to 0.9.2" [Wishlist,New]04:29
jdongHobbsee: well I do like to keep our old devs, but we need a 2nd ACK from -release to do so :)04:29
Hobbseejdong: you got it, i think.04:29
jdongHobbsee: are we reading norsetto's comment as an ACK given superm1's response?04:30
Hobbseejdong: ah, siretart didn't give an ack.  i'd say that's close enough.04:30
jdongHobbsee: siretart is on the release team?04:31
* Hobbsee waits for LP04:31
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Hobbseeoh, apparently not.04:31
jdongHobbsee: last time I talked to him he was waiting on a 2nd ack, so... :)04:31
Hobbseejdong: i'd consider norsetto's an ack, as the condition he wanted to not-ack with was proved false.04:32
jdongHobbsee: okay :)04:33
jdongsiretart: ^^ green light to upload VLC04:33
NCommanderhey jdong04:42
fabrice_spasac?04:45
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siretartjdong: Hobbsee: In case I get problems with that upload, I'll blame you! :P05:52
nxvl\o/05:53
Hobbseesiretart: well, i can ack it too, if you want...05:53
Hobbseesiretart: u-r is still a part of m-r05:53
dholbachgood morning05:53
nxvldholbach: good morning05:53
Hobbseesiretart: besides, i get blamed for all sorts of stuff anyway, so, meh :)05:53
dholbachhi nxvl05:53
siretartHobbsee: ah, I think that counts pretty well. great, I'm on it05:54
siretarthey dholbach! good morning! awake that early?05:54
dholbachhiya siretart - yeah Mimi has to get up early a lot, so I'm supportive and get up myself... and I got used to it anyway now :)05:55
siretartjdong: Hobbsee: vlc uploaded, will need binary NEW though06:44
StevenKsiretart: What does it build that will force binary NEW?06:44
siretartStevenK: libvlc206:46
siretartinstead of libvlc006:46
siretartno reverse depends though06:46
iulianGood morning.06:59
NCommanderdholbach, you around?07:08
dholbachNCommander: yes07:08
NCommandersiretart, the issue with kdebase-runtime was with xine :-)07:09
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RAOFDamnit!  Why are the nouveau drivers _more_ stable than nvidia's blob?07:15
HobbseeRAOF: because the nvidia blobs are trying to get you to switch back to windows, subliminally?07:16
didrocksdholbach: sorry. I was surely tired (let's say that, I fixed the bug #273579)07:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 273579 in gnome-system-tools "Please sponsor gnome-system-tools 2.22.1 into intrepid" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27357907:17
dholbachdidrocks: will take a look at it in a sec07:17
didrocksdholbach: thx. I am going now for the second day of "Paris Capitale du Libre" with nijaba and huats. I will be away surely for most of the day (no IRC or ssh connexion from there)07:18
didrocksdholbach: and sorry again :)07:18
dholbachdidrocks: enjoy the show :)07:18
didrocksdholbach: thanks!07:18
siretartNCommander: yes, sort-of, but agreed07:20
NCommandersiretart, so no issues with my fix?07:20
dholbachdidrocks: there's a 98_automake.patch.new in there - is that needed?07:23
dothebartwho's responsible for loading packages from lenny?07:24
dholbachdothebart: can you elaborate? I'm not sure I understand07:24
dothebarthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/citadel-server07:25
dothebartthat one ;)07:25
dholbachdothebart: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess (if you want a newer version in Ubuntu for some reason) and because we're near beta freeze: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess07:26
dholbachdothebart: so basically: everybody who cares can get it done, there's just a bit of paperwork involved because we're getting near release07:27
dothebartthe actual version is a good step behind, and there are a good number of bugfixes in there...07:27
dholbachif it's a bugfix only release that makes things even more likely to get it done07:27
dothebartlenny actualy has .37 with many patches.07:28
dothebartupstream has .38, which is a maintainance release.07:28
dholbachjust check out the wiki pages I mentioned, they tell you how to file bug reports on which the teams will act07:29
dothebartbtw, i'm the first real person on the upstream maintainr list.07:29
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dothebartok, bugreport filed.07:38
dothebarttnx...07:38
iulianWould someone like to have a look at bug 274276 please?07:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274276 in salasaga "Please sync salasaga 0.8.0~alpha4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27427607:38
iulianI didn't write an exception because I think that changing the build system is not considered a feature.07:39
iulianOr should I file one just because it's a new upstream release?07:40
persiaAny KDE people around who might be able to chase the boson FTBFS?07:41
persiaBoson build-deps on libkdegames-dev, which depends on kdelibs5-dev, which isn't getting installed.07:42
sorenkirkland: Ah. QEmu fails to build because linux/dirent.h got removed. http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=cf6ae8b50e0ee3f764392dadd1970e3f03c4077307:46
kirklandsoren: yeah, that was poo07:46
sorenkirkland: You might be able to just use <dirent.h> instead, but what I'd do is look at what kvm did to overcome this change.07:46
kirklandsoren: i just did the former for my upload07:47
kirklandsoren: my qemu upload07:47
kirklandsoren: btw, slangasek sponsored the kvm on07:48
kirklandsoren: and i pushed the same patch to the qemu package07:48
kirklandsoren: and posted it on the qemu-devel list07:48
sorenAwesome!07:48
kirklandsoren: you might just sanity check all of that, please07:49
kirklandsoren: i tested all of my keys on my thinkpad07:49
kirklandsoren: probably would help to spread that out a bit07:50
kirklandsoren: probably safe since that patch has been riding in gtk-vnc for a few days now07:50
sorenkirkland: At a glance, it looks great.07:51
kirklandsoren: rockin'07:51
sorenVery :)07:52
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quadrisprodholbach: hi, bug 27429910:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274299 in tk8.5 "Please sync tk8.5 8.5.3-3 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27429910:26
dholbachquadrispro: I'm subscribed to it - I'll take a look at it in a bit10:26
quadrisprodholbach: i didn't want request a sync with the upstream version, but with sid version10:26
quadrisprook thank you :)10:26
dholbachtk8.5 (8.5.4-1) experimental; urgency=low10:26
dholbach  * New upstream release.10:26
dholbach -- Sergei Golovan <sgolovan@debian.org> Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:40:42 +040010:26
dholbachit says in the bug report10:26
dholbachit also says "Changelog since current intrepid version 8.5.3-1:"10:27
quadrisprodholbach: that changelog has been created by requestsync10:27
dholbachok10:28
dholbachso it should be 8.5.3-3 everywhere?10:28
dholbachcould you update it?10:28
quadrisproit's a mistake, yes, 8.5.3-310:28
dholbachthanks10:28
quadrisprosure10:28
quadrisprodone10:29
dholbachROCK10:29
quadrispro:D10:29
asacfabrice_sp|away: ping me when you are back10:32
directhexhttp://blogs.computerworld.com/where_windows_is_2_to_linux11:19
staniWould it be ok to mark Bug #70887 as invalid? See my last comment.12:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 70887 in wxwidgets2.6 "Crash when closing a simple program" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7088712:34
stanipochu: ^?12:34
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pochuhi stani12:35
pochulooking12:35
pochustani: yes, it makes sense12:36
pochustani: there's the option to convert bugs to questions too, see in the top right corner12:36
pochuthe "Convert to a question" link12:36
stanihmmm... but normally there won't be wxpython gurus answering questions there12:37
staniif he asks this on the mailing list he will be answered in no time12:38
pochuso you can do both :)12:38
pochuconvert it to a question closing it as invalid, and tell him he may be answered quite fast in that list12:39
pochuthat's what I would do12:39
staniok12:39
staniI'll do that12:39
stanido I first have to make the bug invalid, as converting into a question does not work directly?12:40
pochudoesn't it close it as invalid automatically?12:42
nhandlerYes it does pochu12:42
pochuhey nhandler12:43
pochubah12:43
nhandlerThe only thing you need to do before converting a bug to a question is verify that the bug is for the correct package12:43
nhandlerHello pochu12:43
stanihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/50459/12:43
pochuI can't type "^" with my keyboard anymore :-/12:43
pochuI have to copy&paste it...12:44
stanithe bug is invalid already12:45
stani^ that was the problem12:46
staninow it seems to work12:46
karoogahi, anyone familiar with GQ?13:42
karoogasorry, wrong channel.13:42
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LazyHi, has anyone checked this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tor/+bug/26169314:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261693 in tor "version bump to 0.2.X" [Undecided,New]14:26
LazyDebian has already updated to that version..14:27
didrocksdholbach: I think that now, it may be ok for bugs #273579. Thx for your patience :)15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 273579 in gnome-system-tools "Please sponsor gnome-system-tools 2.22.1 into intrepid" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27357915:10
dholbachdidrocks: I'll take care of it later, need to rush out to a Bug Jam now :-)15:19
didrocksdholbach: have a good bug jam event :)15:20
dholbachthanks :)15:20
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HewCan someone have a look at bug 189406? It seems to be getting ignored, even though it's a clear regression and an easy fix. I set this issue to medium importance a while ago, and it's just been changed to wishlist and had the milestone removed. Why?17:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 189406 in update-manager "Update Manager doesn't display package versions anymore" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18940617:17
norsettojdong: no need to involve motu-release if its a bug fix only17:19
geserHew: please ask Keybuk in #ubuntu-devel as he made this status changes17:19
Hewgeser: Will do, thanks.17:19
* iulian is looking for a motu to ack bug 27427617:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274276 in salasaga "Please sync salasaga 0.8.0~alpha4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27427617:21
slytheringeser: Do you think you can sponsor a small debdiff for libdvdread. The install-css.sh script is modified to use medibuntu packages and some other improvements to the script.17:23
siretartjdong: vlc 0.9.3 would most probably need a new exception. read a new bug, new report, new list of fixed bugs and so on17:23
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geserslytherin: probably. Is beta freeze already?17:32
slytheringeser: Will it need freeze exception? The bug in question is bug #10596317:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 105963 in libdvdread "libdvdread3 on 7.04 64bit requires build-essential. " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10596317:33
geserslytherin: that would be a question I'd need to figure out myself first17:34
slytherinIt doesn't add any new feature. Only fixes a problem.17:34
geserslytherin: the question would be if every upload after beta freeze needs a exception from ~motu-release17:35
slytherinOh. I didn't know that. I thought such rule would apply to to RC.17:38
geserslytherin: might be, that's what I don't remember exactly17:40
geserI remember that after some point every upload needs an exception but not anymore when the point is17:41
bigongreat, nomore sound on my laptop running intrepid18:03
Laneydholbach: Thought you might be interested in this - the latest Ubuntu UK podcast has a big segment on 5-a-day18:04
jdongword of advice: Avoid trying to explain Little's Law and queuing theory to Subway's workers.18:04
geserbobbo: re bug 274174 and debian bug 500090: do you know which desktop file the ubuntu package of fityk uses?18:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274174 in fityk "Please merge fityk 0.8.6-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27417418:27
ubottuDebian bug 500090 in fityk "Desktop file does not validate" [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/50009018:27
bobbogeser: sorry, still around?18:49
nxvlDktrKranz: mi lovely sponsor18:50
nxvlDktrKranz: need a favor18:50
nxvlDktrKranz: Bug #27417318:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274173 in terminator "[FFe] Please sync terminator 0.11 from debian sid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27417318:50
bobbogeser: I am not sure and dont have an intrepid installation to hand to test it out, but it looks like a sync of the next fityk upload should solve any problems18:52
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DktrKranznxvl, I used to be your lovely sponsor, now I need to figure out to love from now on... :)18:53
nxvl:D18:54
nxvlDktrKranz: you can still love me :D18:54
geserbobbo: I'm just asking if we perhaps patch an unused file and could sync right now18:54
bobbogeser: ah yeah, makes sense, i'll try a testbuild with the file removed and see if anything breaks and get back to you18:55
DktrKranznxvl, I can grant you a love exception but I  guess it's not the exception you want, isn't it?18:55
geserbobbo: thanks18:56
nxvlheh18:57
nxvl:D18:57
nxvlDktrKranz: or you can grant me a lovely FFe18:57
nxvlDktrKranz: :D18:57
DktrKranznice combo ;)18:58
geserbobbo: I've just tested the desktop file from the fityk deb from Debian and desktop-file-validate doesn't complain18:58
nxvl\o/18:58
nxvllunch time18:58
nxvlbbl18:58
DktrKranzgive me a sec to discover why my favourite program crashes and I'm all yours18:58
DktrKranz(well... FFe related only)18:58
bobbogeser: just checked debian/rules and it installs the upstream .desktop file (in the source package root) and doesnt touch the one in /debian19:02
sebnerDktrKranz: you beloved sponsor you :P19:02
DktrKranzsebner, shut up or send that mail, your choice19:03
DktrKranz;)19:03
bobbogeser: looks like I can file a sync request now?19:03
sebnerDktrKranz: Silence! I. K. Y. :P19:03
DktrKranzsebner, one of those days I'll send you Jeff, so you'll meet achmed19:04
sebner\o/19:05
* sebner hides xD19:05
geserbobbo: yes, just give a good description why the ubuntu changes  can be dropped19:12
bobbogeser: Bug #274509. Thanks for pointing that out :)19:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274509 in fityk "Please sync fityk 0.8.6-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27450919:20
geserbobbo: ACKed19:27
bobbogeser: thanks alot :)19:27
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NCommanderwgrant, ping19:56
geserNCommander: according to my clock it's 5 am there19:59
NCommanderdarn, wgrant must require sleep, I forget het's human19:59
* NCommander runs19:59
* NCommander was simply looking towards reverse enginneering landscape-server19:59
Adri2000norsetto: ngircd's sru should be fixed now (if you have time to test)20:08
norsettoAdri2000: sure20:17
* sebner waves to norsetto :)20:18
* norsetto feels the air on his face20:18
sebnerxD20:18
norsettohi sebner20:18
sebner:)20:18
sebnernorsetto: Everything fine so far in italy? :)20:19
norsettosebner: as fine as things can go around here20:19
sebnergood to here :)20:19
sebner*hear20:19
pochu161 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.20:36
* pochu prays for his desktop not to explode20:36
pochuerr20:36
pochu158 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 2 downgraded, 3 to remove and 3 not upgraded.20:36
norsettopuchu: you beat me: 116 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.20:37
norsettopuchu?20:37
norsettooh well ...20:37
pochuheh20:37
* pochu waves at norsetto 20:37
* norsetto is gratefull for some more fresh air :-)20:37
norsettopochu: hey, this is cool:  xserver-xorg-core: Conflicts: xserver-xorg-video-2 E: Broken packages20:38
nxvli upgraded to intrepid without problems20:39
nxvlwell, almost20:39
nxvl1) aptitude safe-upgrade -> Xorg crash, not even able to stop it and go to the terminal, system hanged20:40
nxvl2) edit grub, single mode -> apt-get dist-upgrade -> w00t \o/20:40
norsettonxvl: stop using terminator, see what happens ...20:40
nxvlnooo20:40
* nxvl runs screaming and holding his terminator20:40
compengiis there any known pidgin 2.5.1 ppa package that was approved to be good?21:23
Adri2000compengi: uh? it's in intrepid, what's the problem?21:24
Laneycompengi: Why not build+test a backport with prevu and comment on bug #271453 as to whether it works? (assuming you're on Hardy)21:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271453 in hardy-backports "Please backport Pidgin 2.5.1-0ubuntu2" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27145321:26
compengiAdri2000, oh, already in intrepid. i checked the package site week ago it wasn't. thanks :)21:26
compengiLaney, yeah i'm on hardy21:26
compengiLaney, is that bug found in 0ubuntu1 too?21:28
* NCommander tries it21:29
NCommandercompengi, I'm test building the backport21:31
LaneyI would do it but I don't have a Hardy install21:32
NCommanderLaney, pbuilder is your friend21:32
Laneyfor building21:32
Laneybut not for testing21:32
Laneynothing beats a proper install ;)21:33
NCommanderLaney, pbuilder login, install the package, and run it21:33
NCommanderThat's how I do every backport ack21:34
LaneyI prefer to do test runs in a VM21:34
NCommanderLaney, you seriously feel that a VM is needed?21:36
* NCommander considers that overkill21:36
LaneyIt's really no trouble tbh21:36
verwilstemgent: ping21:39
NCommanderLaney, well, I'll ack pidgin if it builds and works21:39
LaneyNCommander: Be sure to test the rdepends21:40
* Laney did the last pidgin backport21:40
NCommanderOh *fun*21:40
* NCommander loves rdepends21:40
NCommanderI'm going to haphazardly guess that all the plugins need a binary rebuild or backport?21:40
LaneyThey didn't last time21:41
NCommanderok21:42
* NCommander waits for this to build21:43
NCommanderLaney, well, pidgin builds fine21:47
LaneyAs it should ;)21:47
Laney'snot that different from 2.5.021:47
NCommanderok, pidgin installed21:48
NCommander;-)21:48
NCommanderso its installable21:48
NCommander(pidgin:12292): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed21:50
NCommanderThat's an issue21:50
* NCommander hates figuring out the required black magic to get X11 to work21:50
NCommanderWell, firefox now has an ad it seems that Mozilla is "free software"22:08
verwilsti'm having dbconfig-common issues..22:10
verwilstif someone has the time to install a ( non-intrusive ) package from my ppa and try it out? :$22:11
verwilsti cannot remove the package because it fails in the uninstall phase22:11
NCommanderWhy does it fail to uninstall?22:13
verwilstlet me give you access to my server so you can see for yourself :)22:15
azeemverwilst: pastebin the error, rather22:22
NCommanderverwilst, makes life easier to pastebin it22:23
verwilsthttp://pastebin.ca/121091722:24
verwilstany ideas?22:34
superm1verwilst, well what's in the prerm script?22:36
verwilsthttp://pastebin.ca/1210927 for some more info22:36
verwilstoh i pasted the wrong script22:36
azeem#22:37
azeemNo /usr/sbin/zabbix_server found running; none killed.22:37
azeem#22:37
azeemdpkg: error processing zabbix-server-mysql (--remove):22:37
azeem# subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1022:37
azeemwell, buggy22:37
verwilsthttp://pastebin.ca/121092822:37
verwilstomg22:37
verwilstjust because it can't shut down zabbix-server?22:38
azeemlooks like the init script can't handle that22:38
* verwilst wonders why he didnt see this himself :|22:38
verwilstyou mean the init script should exit 0 when it wasnt running?22:38
superm1that seems to make the most sense to me22:38
azeemcheck policy, but yeah, I believe so22:39
verwilstit exits 0..22:39
verwilstjust tried it manually22:39
verwilstNo /usr/sbin/zabbix_server found running; none killed.   root@test002:~# echo $?   022:39
verwilstthe only step below that is dbc_go zabbix-proxy-mysql $@22:41
superm1verwilst, i'd recommend putting in set -x22:45
superm1in your prerm to debug it22:45
verwilstsuperm1: ah, nice that you can just do it on the fly22:46
verwilstNo /usr/sbin/zabbix_server found running; none killed.22:47
verwilst+ dbc_go zabbix-proxy-mysql remove22:47
verwilstwtf?22:47
verwilstproxy?22:47
verwilstthe actual error is from + RET=10 zabbix-proxy-mysql/dbconfig-remove doesn't exist22:48
superm1well there you go22:49
verwilsthow will it have gotten in there?22:49
verwilstwhere does it fetch the pkgname?22:49
verwilsthm22:50
verwilstmy zabbix-proxy-mysql.prerm has server, and vice versa22:50
verwilstrebuilding :)22:54
verwilstworks!23:02
verwilstjaj123:02
verwilstthanks a lot guys for your help :)23:02
verwilstit's a lot easier when there are some people thinking along :)23:02
=== superm1 is now known as superm1|away
Adri2000bobbo: re your mpd merge - I think it's unlikely that an init.d change fixes the segfault bug23:27

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