[00:13] <elky_work> thing is, the bot cant help you
[01:00] <jrib> stepping out for a bit.  Someone should keep an eye on bunnyto in #ubuntu
[01:04] <Pici> that was quick
[01:05] <jrib> haven't stepped out yet :)
[05:37] <genii> Will ubottu be offline for long?
[05:41] <genii> I guess that means yes or indefinitely then ;)
[05:56]  * nalioth watches for ubottu
[05:57] <nalioth> anyone know how long it takes for ubottu to spawn?
[05:58]  * nalioth taps his toes
[05:58] <nalioth> YAY
[05:58] <Jordan_U> I was just coming in to ask about that bot :)
[05:59] <nalioth> should be coming back up as we speak
[06:00] <nalioth> Jordan_U: looks like ubottu is returning as we speak.  is there anything else we can help you with?
[06:01] <Jordan_U> No
[06:26] <Myrtti> Jordan_U: schoo, then
[07:58] <Myrtti> lambdacats ♥ http://arcanux.org/lambdacats/undecidable.jpg
[08:32] <Flannel> Well, that was fun
[08:36] <Flannel> BigUrsis: How can we help you?
[08:36] <BigUrsis> No need, I was reading ops logs and noticed spam from ubottu, and was wondering just how much trigger spam ends up here.
[08:47] <jussi01> sigh
[08:47] <Myrtti> indeed
[08:47] <Myrtti> in other news: WIN! TADA
[08:59]  * Myrtti grins and hums happily
[09:00] <Myrtti> I haz stress but I don't care!
[09:00] <Myrtti> you can haz stress, but I don't care!
[09:02] <Myrtti> AND WE ARE HAPPY TOGEEETHER.
[09:09] <Myrtti> what are you people staring... don't you have better things to do?
[09:10] <Flannel> Myrtti: Not I.  I'm in wind-down mode. Which is sometimes called "Watch Myrtti mode"
[09:12] <Myrtti> I can be the self appointed #ubuntu-ops cheerleader for life?
[09:12] <ikonia> do you have a uniform ?
[09:12] <Myrtti> yes =^_____^=
[09:12] <Myrtti> well not exactly but I know what it would be like
[09:12] <Flannel> Myrtti: I think that settles it then.  Are you going to change your nick to sauocfl?
[09:13] <Myrtti> do I have to? if I have to, I dunwanna
[09:17] <Flannel> Myrtti: nope
[09:17] <Myrtti> ♥ 
[09:34] <Gnea> Flannel: how do you know that he wasn't the one being deceptive in the first place?
[09:35] <Flannel> Gnea: you can't go around assuming people are.
[09:36] <Flannel> Gnea: or are you going to give everyone who asks for help in #ubuntu a test to make sure they really don't know what theyre talking about before helping them?
[09:37] <Gnea> Flannel: do I give everyone who asks for help in #ubuntu that sort of test? no.
[09:39] <Gnea> First of all, the user was asking for ways to traverse his country's restrictive browsing habits - a potentially illegal thing to do. Second, he was harrassing an op. I'm sorry if my method actually got the user to back off and stop the harrassment.
[09:40] <Flannel> There's nothing to indicate he wasn't simply ignorant of said scripts behavior.
[09:41] <Gnea> he was offtopic to begin with, if he needed help with his irc client, he simply could've asked and he would've been pointed in the correct direction, as was originally done.
[09:41] <Flannel> Gnea: but, that's really moot anyway.  You gave a misleading answer, which isn't condusive to the atmosphere of the channel.
[09:42] <Flannel> that's really the only thing I mentioned to you.  The rest of this isn't relevant.
[09:43] <Flannel> I would have no problem if you had said "You should probably just leave the channel, blah blah" but that's not what you said.
[09:43] <Gnea> Flannel: I didn't want to anger the user.
[09:44] <Flannel> Gnea: So, instead you're going to tell them something which *they* think is a legit answer to "How do I turn off my scripts", which disconnects them? That certainly won't make them angry.
[09:46] <Flannel> Gnea: It
[09:47]  * Flannel ^H^H
[09:47]  * Myrtti gives Flannel a bottle of correction tape
[09:48] <Flannel> why thankee
[09:49] <Flannel> Myrtti: I don't think I've ever used the tape stuff before.  Does it work just like the fluid?  you just paint it onto the monitor?
[09:49] <Myrtti> yeah, it does
[09:49] <Myrtti> windex is also nice
[09:49] <Gnea> Flannel: *shrug* This whole conversation seems rather pointless.  The user was asking for the wrong help in the wrong channel.  We had no idea what script(s) he had loaded, he could've gone and gotten himself banned from the network.  Maybe he had some legitimate issues to deal with in the meantime.  As you said, all of this is totally irrelevent.  But okay, next time I'll just let him potentially dig his own grave.
[09:49] <Gnea> but windex does nasty things
[09:50] <Myrtti> It SmElZz NiCE!
[09:50] <Myrtti> *SNOOORRFFF*
[09:50] <Gnea> heh
[09:50] <Flannel> Gnea: This isn't about him.  It's about you.  If you want to just stay out of it, that's fine.  If you want to suggest they leave the room, that's fine too, just don't be misleading about it.  Often times troublemakers *will* leave on their own accord if you ask them to.  As strange as that sounds.
[09:52] <Gnea> Flannel: Well, again, I'm sorry that you don't approve of my method.  And I don't see how I was misleading, I flat-out told him that /quit would do it.  Surely he knew what it would do, hence that very interesting /quit message that he left behind.
[09:53] <Flannel> That quit message was likely automatically inserted by his script.  And again, /quit is not a valid answer to "how do I turn off the scripts", regardless of how many times you say it is.
[09:54] <Myrtti> *SNORK*
[09:55] <Flannel> Myrtti: is that the cross between a fork... and... uh, umm... spoon and a knife?
[09:55] <Gnea> Flannel: It's obviously not a valid answer in your book.  Now, if you're quite done harrassing me over the issue, I've got other things to do.
[09:56] <Flannel> Gnea: You're here on your own accord, by the way.  Don't let me keep you.
[09:56] <Gnea> Flannel: Well thank you for inviting me here in the first place. Later.
[09:57] <Myrtti> http://myrtti.fi/blog/2008/09/25/o-hai-i-can-haz-lulz/#comments
[10:25] <jussi01> Does anyone know the status of the IRC council thing... ?
[11:22] <Myrtti> grumblecookies grumblecookies!
[11:29] <Myrtti> I can haz monday?!
[11:29] <Myrtti> plz make it monday nao?
[11:33] <elky> i'm so so very bad... :) http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=2103666
[11:41] <jrib> !test
[11:43] <elky> fail.
[11:54] <Myrtti> a friend suggested a better caption for http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/09/24/funny-pictures-not-detered-by-adt/
[11:57] <Myrtti> "told u iz on detenshun"
[12:01] <jussi01> oh far out, what is with that bot :(
[12:01] <jussi01> elky: you fail ;)
[12:02] <elky> heh
[12:02]  * jussi01 reminds elky of the restart bot page...
[12:02] <elky> there is a restart bot page?
[12:03] <jussi01> elky: go check you council mail from a while back..
[12:03] <jussi01> aug 13th
[12:03] <jussi01> elky: ^
[12:05]  * jussi01 waits for the bot to reappear once elky finds it... :P
[12:05] <Myrtti> jussi01: YOU'RE MEAN
[12:06] <Myrtti> I don't love you anymore.
[12:06] <jussi01> Myrtti: why?
[12:06] <Myrtti> teasing elky like that
[12:06] <jussi01>  :(
[12:06] <jussi01> not teasing..
[12:06] <jussi01> :(
[12:06] <Myrtti> you are too
[12:06] <jussi01> nope
[12:06] <Myrtti> are too
[12:06] <elky> i'm on a conf call at the moemnt
[12:06] <jussi01> just making sure she will remember for next time...
[12:07] <Myrtti> see?
[12:07] <Myrtti> meanie
[12:07] <jussi01> Myrtti: go and eat some salmiakki.. 
[12:07] <Myrtti> pft :-þ
[12:07] <bazhang> wow three weeks passed quickly
[12:07] <Myrtti> you go and scoop your vegemite
[12:07] <bazhang> oh wait it was just one
[12:08] <bazhang> locke is back
[12:08] <elky> i dont have anything in my council list folder for the 13th, im kind of having to hunt
[12:08] <jussi01> elky: want me to forward it again?
[12:08] <elky> jussi01, might be worth it
[12:08] <elky> since i dont seem to even have it
[12:08] <jussi01> elky: pm the address you want it to
[12:09] <jussi01> bots on the way back
[12:09] <elky> my real first name at ubuntu.com
[12:09] <elky> that will suffice
[12:10] <elky> i kinda suspect it's got siphoned into trash at some point
[12:11] <jussi01> elky: you got that now?
[12:12] <elky> sec
[12:13] <elky> yep
[12:14] <jussi01> !scope > snuxoll
[12:14] <jussi01> !scope > Ziroday
[12:15] <ikonia> !scope >ikonia
[12:15] <ikonia> thats handy
[12:15] <jussi01> yep :)
[12:16] <ikonia> didn't know that one at all
[12:16] <ikonia> may want to mute ubot5
[12:16] <ikonia> getting multiple resopnses 
[12:16] <Myrtti> can I make scope2?
[12:16] <jussi01> yeah is muted, but pms still go
[12:16] <jussi01> Myrtti: what you tyhinking?
[12:17] <Myrtti> "haha, very funny. Scotty, beam back my humour"
[12:17] <Myrtti> :-D
[12:17] <Myrtti> sorry
[12:17] <Myrtti> all work and no play makes Miia a dull girl
[12:17] <Myrtti> all work and no play makes Miia a dull girl
[12:17] <bazhang> haha
[12:17] <Myrtti> all work and no play makes Miia a dull girl
[12:17] <jussi01> rofl
[12:17] <bazhang> 'the shining'
[12:18] <Myrtti> (which I've never seen in full extent since it's too scary)
[12:18] <Myrtti> yes, I'm full of surprises.
[12:41] <Myrtti> pimpelipom.
[12:41] <Myrtti> pompelipim.
[14:14] <jussi01> Tm_T: no!
[14:14] <Tm_T> bah, sorry, too late
[14:14] <jussi01> doh!
[14:14] <Myrtti> what did you do...
[14:15] <Myrtti> what did he do?
[14:15] <Tm_T> removed one person
[14:15] <jussi01> continual bot abuse
[14:15] <Myrtti> oh, ok then
[14:15] <Myrtti> as you were
[14:15] <Tm_T> (:)
[14:15] <Tm_T> jussi01: I think its your call now
[14:15] <jussi01> yeah, Im watching
[14:15] <Tm_T> thanks
[14:16] <Tm_T> I'll get more lunch
[14:16]  * jussi01 just woke up :)
[14:16] <Myrtti> teehee
[14:16] <jussi01> after a nice agternoon nap :)
[14:17] <Myrtti> kekeke
[14:41] <jussi01> Tm_T: can you watch -ot for me?
[14:41]  * jussi01 sighs at the overly talkitive kids
[14:42] <Myrtti> chatty monkeys
[14:52] <Al1_> Hi
[14:52] <LjL> Al1_: let me check
[14:53] <LjL> at first glance, you don't seem to be banned
[14:53] <Al1_>  Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[14:53] <LjL> well, i'll check better
[14:53] <ikonia> n=conor is familer
[14:53] <Al1_> lol thanks
[14:53] <LjL> oh yes, you're banned
[14:53] <Al1_> Reason?
[14:54] <LjL> don't know yet
[14:54] <ikonia> not the one with the brother ?
[14:54] <Al1_> Ive never actually been on it
[14:54] <ikonia> "my brother did this" 
[14:54] <Al1_> no 
[14:54] <Al1_> ive just never been on #ubuntu
[14:54] <Al1_> and i got banned when i first tried to join
[14:54] <ikonia> /whois Al1_
[14:56] <ikonia> it is him
[14:56] <ikonia> I'm pretty certain
[14:56] <ikonia> "my brother did this"
[14:57] <LjL> [15:56:26] <LjL> uhm this is complicated
[14:57] <LjL> [15:56:47] <LjL> he was always banned as conor as far as i can see for now
[14:57] <LjL> [15:57:07] <LjL> but "he" has used a few hostnames and an unaffiliated cloak, too
[14:57] <LjL> [15:57:19] <LjL> the name "al" did appear before in there, though
[14:58] <ikonia> where is that from ?
[14:58] <ikonia> I remember him as blaming his brother, then admiting he was his brother, etc etc
[14:59] <LjL> ikonia, eh, it's from your query right now :P
[14:59] <LjL> i re-pasted it here after noticing he'd left
[14:59] <ikonia> ahh
[14:59] <LjL> the hostname he's using right now was never banned
[14:59] <ikonia> sorry
[14:59] <ikonia> irssi isn't highlighting
[14:59] <LjL> actually, the whole onvol.net was never banned
[15:00]  * ikonia backs away from the tricky situation
[15:00]  * ikonia returns to researching blackberry's and linux
[15:01] <Myrtti> it was his roommate once
[15:01] <ikonia> that was it
[15:01] <ikonia> I knew it was "someone else"
[15:01] <ikonia> then he admited it was him all along
[15:01] <bazhang> @login
[15:02] <Al1_> im like in desperate need of technical advice
[15:02] <Al1_> can i get on #ubuntu?
[15:03] <LjL> i'm still trying to figure out this ban
[15:03] <Al1_> k
[15:04] <bazhang> the name is conor LjL 
[15:04] <LjL> bazhang: i know that
[15:05] <LjL> but i can't really relate it to a hostname, or the current nick
[15:05] <bazhang> he claimed it was his roommate, his brother, among other excuses
[15:05] <LjL> this onvol.net address he's on right now doesn't seem to be an open proxy
[15:05] <Al1_> Sorry if i cut out once in a while, the internet here is shit
[15:06] <ikonia> Al1_: please mind your language
[15:06] <LjL> uhm, even if i let him join...
[15:06] <bazhang> heh
[15:07] <LjL> Al1_, even if i let you in, you won't find very much useful help if your ISP keeps disconnecting you every 30 seconds... :|
[15:07] <bazhang> looks like ompaul did a +l in this case
[15:07] <Al1_> Ye well
[15:07] <bazhang> err the lart command
[15:07] <Al1_> Just to be unbanned till i find a better connection
[15:07] <Al1_> I dont think i should be banned for doing nothing
[15:08] <LjL> Al1_: no, i agree
[15:08] <LjL> i'm just trying to find out whether or not you're the same person who was banned before
[15:08] <LjL> anyway, i'll let you in for the time being
[15:09] <Al1_> k
[15:09] <LjL> i reserve the right to determine you are that person, though ;)
[15:09] <Al1_> lol what person?
[15:09] <LjL> meh
[15:09] <LjL> Al1_: an annoying fellow who was banned for good reason
[15:10] <LjL> but seriously, your connection to IRC is useless...
[15:10] <Al1_> Lol well considering ive never been in #ubuntu
[15:10] <ikonia> Al1_: how did you find this channel
[15:10] <LjL> ikonia: i told him
[15:10] <ikonia> ah
[15:10] <LjL> he was in -ot
[15:10] <ikonia> how did you find offtopic ?
[15:11] <Al1_> online
[15:11] <Al1_> a list
[15:11] <ikonia> wher ?
[15:11] <Al1_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Ubuntu
[15:11] <ikonia> fair enough
[15:11] <Tm_T> awwwww
[15:11] <LjL> Conor is a first name, after all
[15:11] <ikonia> the other guy had been in here many times
[15:11] <LjL> it *could* be someone else
[15:11] <ikonia> if he didn't have a URL to hand I would have been suspcious
[15:11] <bazhang> mmkay
[15:12] <bazhang> same affinity for language though
[15:12] <ikonia> but if he didn't know about here, and found offtopic on the net with a valid url, doesn't look like the other go 
[15:12] <ikonia> yes, I noticed that
[15:12] <bazhang> Al1_, no need to join here
[15:12] <Al1_> K
[15:12] <Al1_> Bye
[15:12] <LjL> he needs a banforward to ##fix_your_connection anyway...
[15:13] <bazhang> for now
[15:13] <ikonia> true
[15:13] <LjL> meh, my logs are broken
[15:13] <LjL> they're all owned by root, meh meh meh
[15:14] <ikonia> he's not joined #ubuntu yet, 
[15:14] <ikonia> odd for someone who needs it bad
[15:14] <ikonia> ooh he has
[15:14] <ikonia> my mistake
[15:14]  * ikonia remains dubious
[15:14] <bazhang>  Al1_ (n=conor@c179-148.i02-5.onvol.net) has joined #ubuntu
[15:14] <ikonia> yeah, I saw it
[15:14] <bazhang> oops
[15:14] <bazhang> sorry :)
[15:14] <ikonia> no no, thank you
[15:15] <LjL> onvol.net "seems" to be american anyway, if i can read a slightly cryptic whois
[15:17] <LjL> uhm, no, geo ip services say Malta
[15:17] <LjL> bah
[15:22] <LjL> on an unrelated note...
[15:23] <LjL> people with WINE problems have been redirected to #winehq for quite some time, most of the times
[15:23] <LjL> which is fine, i just did it right now. but earlier we had someone asking how to uninstall programs in WINE
[15:23] <LjL> the answer is: type "uninstaller" in a terminal. however, someone told him to ask in #winehq
[15:24] <LjL> it wasn't anyone in here, but just saying, let's not go overboard...
[15:24] <bazhang> good point LjL 
[15:36] <Myrtti> dumdidum
[16:27] <jussi01> LjL: you botabuser!!
[16:27] <jussi01> :P
[16:27] <LjL> moi?
[16:28] <jussi01> hehe, yes you... :P
[16:28] <LjL> i didn't botabuse anything :P
[17:10]  * jussi01 goes to eat, someone keep eyes on #kubuntu - its been wandering offtopic a lot today
[17:56] <Myrtti> [19:37] ~~~Eeyore-Jr [n=supybot@24.225.22.95] has joined #xubuntu
[17:56] <Myrtti> [19:38] < Eeyore-Jr> hi.  i have a widescreen monitor and i need to change the  reslotion in xubuntu to 10xx by 8xx
[17:57] <Myrtti> [19:39] ~~~Eeyore-Jr is now known as Ahmuck
[19:19] <jussi01> Myrtti: I think you should caption  this and add it to your blog... it fits well with that last post: http://lifematta.com/jussi01/photo/11946
[19:20] <Myrtti> jussi01: http://speaklolspeak.com/page/LOLzoo+6
[19:21] <jussi01> :D
[19:25] <jussi01> Myrtti: either that one or this one... http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20080925-212456-06082008335.jpg
[19:25] <Myrtti> now I know!
[19:25] <Myrtti> it's a POINTER ERROR
[19:25] <Myrtti> does haskell has pointers?
[19:25] <jussi01> rofl!!
[19:28] <Myrtti> http://speaklolspeak.com/page/PAWS+Universitee
[19:29] <Myrtti> jussi01: http://myrtti.jaiku.com/presence/45361817
[19:39] <Myrtti> jussi01: akshully
[19:40] <Myrtti> you go and do your own damn captioning.
[19:40] <jussi01> Myrtti: Really, I dont mind, just thought you might like something extra for the blog...
[19:41] <Myrtti> sure, I'll add it
[19:42] <Myrtti> if you just give me a link to it
[20:04] <jussi01> Hey Kubuntu ops, we have a fair amount of bans on the list in #kubuntu, if you could take a look and see if they are still needed, andclear what can be cleared :)
[20:40] <bavardage> anyone active-ish here?
[20:40] <bavardage> I have a query for an irccop?
[20:42] <Myrtti> ircop or ubuntu op
[20:43] <bavardage> irccop
[20:43] <bavardage> dw.. we got PriceChild 
[20:43] <PriceChild> bavardage: #freenode for ircops.
[20:43] <Myrtti> so... why did you come here instead of #freenode?
[20:43] <bavardage> someone said this is where you hang :P
[20:44] <Myrtti> *baffled*
[20:44] <Myrtti> alms
[20:44]  * Myrtti facepalms
[20:44] <bavardage> " they hang out in #ubuntu-ops"
[20:44] <bavardage> 'tis what was said
[20:44] <Myrtti> no, they logically hangout in #freenode
[20:45] <Myrtti> as does Pricey
[20:45] <PriceChild> But do I really?
[20:45] <Myrtti> was there anything else we ubuntu ops can help you?
[20:46]  * Myrtti larts PriceChild 
[20:46] <Myrtti> only gently, and lovingly, though
[20:46]  * Myrtti gives PriceChild a lollipop
[20:46] <PriceChild> I do yes.
[20:46] <PriceChild> yum
[20:47] <Myrtti> =^____^=
[20:50] <bavardage> Myrtti: probably not
[20:50] <bavardage> but I'll have a lollipop if one's going around
[20:57] <Myrtti> bavardage: may I point you to the topic of this channel then?
[20:57] <bavardage> oh sorry
[20:58] <bavardage> kinda forgot I was here
[20:58] <bavardage> au revoir
[21:01] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[21:01] <Myrtti> @login
[21:01] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[21:14] <ikonia> what did the user -Sarunas just do in #ubuntu
[21:14] <ikonia> he went "purple" in irssi 
[21:15] <ikonia> ahhh notice
[21:15] <ompaul> banned
[21:15] <Pici> we've gone plaid
[21:24] <Myrtti> ...
[21:24] <Myrtti> plaid?
[21:24] <ikonia> spaceballs joke ?
[21:24] <Myrtti> ah
[21:37] <Mez> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/135373/would-performance-suffer-using-autoload-in-php-and-searching-for-the-class-file#135867 <-- Can you tell that I actually wrote code to do what the guy wanted myself not to long ago?
[21:46] <ompaul> will I kf bastard here?
[21:46] <ompaul> please use my nick to answer
[22:32] <Myrtti> meh...
[22:33]  * elky looks at the channel name again thinking that she's confused being just-woken. Nope, it is indeed not ##php.
[22:49] <Myrtti> I wish I could update my phone with virtualboxed xp...
[22:50] <Myrtti> Nafallo: I'm sorry, you were right. It doesn't work.
[22:51] <ikonia> Myrtti: I'm having phone frustration at the moment, it's really hitting home how locked into windows devices are, and how random linux formats are for things
[22:51] <Nafallo> Myrtti: yea :-(
[22:51] <Myrtti> I can make xp see the phone
[22:51] <Nafallo> Myrtti: the update killed my flatmates n95 though
[22:51] <Myrtti> I get all the device drivers installed into xp
[22:51] <Myrtti> but the pc suite won't pick it up
[22:52] <Myrtti> I'm updating pc suite to see if *that* would do the trick
[22:52] <Myrtti> I doubt it will, but I need to see it myself.
[22:53] <Myrtti>  I've done this with vmware atleast once, I think...
[22:53] <Myrtti> either or
[22:55] <Myrtti> and hey let's reboot Windows!
[22:55] <Myrtti> wwoo
[23:09] <Myrtti> ok, I give up
[23:09] <Myrtti> it's not going to work.
[23:31] <Myrtti> _jason: damnit you, was almost asking how we may help you with my tired eyes
[23:46] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[23:46] <Myrtti> I really should go to bed...